GDT Mtl at Ott, Fri June 13, 6:30PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Waffler on June 19, 2025, 04:02:35 PMI also think we are not QB deprived. Every team has a legit starter on their roster.

We really are, and have been for a while.

Not-starter-material yet actual starters (ignoring IR QBs!):
Ford
BLM

Including the current IR situation, add in:
Masoli
Arbuckle
Schiltz
Crum
Strev(? -- I'm biased, I think he could start, but many don't)

And what I mean here is probably won't last the year as starter, will get pulled many times, etc.  So BLM who was the best starter in the last 12 years is in the list because he's not that anymore.

So 2 of 9 teams (22%) don't have a legit franchise starter starting.  Add in the injury teams and once again we are a league strapped for QBs (still).  And it's been a problem for at least 4 seasons.

If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself, if someone offered HAM or EDM a straight trade, at the same cap hit, either Zach/Alexander/Kelly/VAJ for their guy, wouldn't they jump at the deal?
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Waffler

The present looks ok to me. Lots of years we have wondered where the next starters are coming from. 

random year as example 2013: 41 year old Calvillo (his last year and it was a partial one), Max Hall. Thomas Demarco.  All starters for their team.



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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on June 20, 2025, 02:11:04 PMThe present looks ok to me. Lots of years we have wondered where the next starters are coming from. 

random year as example 2013: 41 year old Calvillo (his last year and it was a partial one), Max Hall. Thomas Demarco.  All starters for their team.

Plenty of QB's have come and gone in the last 10 years that have not lived up to their potential or billing.

Masoli, Dane Evans, Jennings, Franklin, Tyrie Adams, Caleb Evans, Tre Ford.

bomb squad

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 20, 2025, 05:01:22 PMPlenty of QB's have come and gone in the last 10 years that have not lived up to their potential or billing.

Masoli, Dane Evans, Jennings, Franklin, Tyrie Adams, Caleb Evans, Tre Ford.

Tyrie intrigues me. What is the deal with him? He just oozes athleticism.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: bomb squad on June 20, 2025, 06:20:33 PMTyrie intrigues me. What is the deal with him? He just oozes athleticism.

It appears he can't read a defence.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Waffler on June 20, 2025, 02:11:04 PMThe present looks ok to me. Lots of years we have wondered where the next starters are coming from

I'm not saying it's a new thing!  CFL has often struggled with having enough quality QBs to "go around".  And once you fill all the starting spots, then teams want to fill the backup spot, and usually with guys that can still win games!

The situation should look mostly ok this season if QB injuries stay away, especially once Kelly returns.  But if we start to get the massive QB injuries like in previous years, we'll be back to glaringly bad QB play on many teams.

Perhaps it would help if there was more SMS to pay backup QBs... Often old guys like Masoli, BLM, could be kept in the league longer as backups for dire injury situations.  Right now when they drop off as #1, they usually quit because the money stinks (and their ego).  You'd also be able to keep more of the Dane Evans type who are more than decent but no one wants to start.  That guy should have been a backup for 5 more years.
Never go full Rider!

dd

Quote from: bomb squad on June 20, 2025, 06:20:33 PMTyrie intrigues me. What is the deal with him? He just oozes athleticism.
He's dumb as a stump when it comes to reading defenses and where to go with the ball. He's never had to develop that skill because he just ran and made plays. Well that's over now, you can't read your defense and make plays, you're done. Edmonton will stick with him because they just signed him for 3 years, massive mistake and they're going to pay for it with losses and lost games

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on June 21, 2025, 04:13:44 AMHe's dumb as a stump when it comes to reading defenses and where to go with the ball. He's never had to develop that skill because he just ran and made plays. Well that's over now, you can't read your defense and make plays, you're done. Edmonton will stick with him because they just signed him for 3 years, massive mistake and they're going to pay for it with losses and lost games

I think you're thinking Tre Ford?  Not Tyrie Adams.  I think Tyrie is in OTT?

However, given what I've seen of Adams so far, your analysis might still be valid!
Never go full Rider!

bomb squad

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 21, 2025, 05:00:04 AMI think you're thinking Tre Ford?  Not Tyrie Adams.  I think Tyrie is in OTT?

However, given what I've seen of Adams so far, your analysis might still be valid!


Hmm. That's just it. We haven't seen very much of him. If I recall correctly, he won his first start a couple of years ago and then got injured. I think that's the main thing that's slowed his progress. If Crum and Shiltz struggle again today, we might see him to get another shot. We just don't hear much of what goes on with eastern teams for some reason.