Weitz Munier-Bailey for this game

Started by Blue In BC, June 21, 2025, 03:12:07 PM

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Who would you pick

Weitz
2 (20%)
Munier-Bailey
8 (80%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: June 26, 2025, 03:12:07 PM

Blue In BC

Obviously we don't get to choose. All things that we think we know, which player would you have chosen to be on this weeks roster.

I had mentioned choosing a Canadian alternative but I'll leave the poll choice just between the 2 global options. Noting this has nothing to do with upside or potential of either. It's about which might provide better depth on the roster in today's game.
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Blue In BC

What? Nobody wants to pick a side? It's only an opinion which is what the forum is about.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

We should run a contest, "Spot the Weitz", I don't even know his number.

Jesse

I honestly think it's irrelevant. Would either see the field much if at all today?

The team put in Weitz because he's been around a year longer. If we need DE depth (which we do), we should sign another DE.
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BomberFan73

Quote from: Jesse on June 21, 2025, 04:29:20 PMI honestly think it's irrelevant. Would either see the field much if at all today?

The team put in Weitz because he's been around a year longer. If we need DE depth (which we do), we should sign another DE.

Exactly.  Who cares?

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Jesse on June 21, 2025, 04:29:20 PMI honestly think it's irrelevant. Would either see the field much if at all today?

The team put in Weitz because he's been around a year longer. If we need DE depth (which we do), we should sign another DE.

Probably but yes we should add another DE to the PR although many including coaches are high on Person. However adding Person requires an import coming off which is different than a choice being discussed about a choice between global players. So yes, it is very relevant.

I do think Bailey would see the field at DE to help keep our 2 starters a little fresher. Since Masoli is starting, outside pressure is less important. OTOH, if either of our 2 starters can't finish the game, what do you suggest? Noting that many posters complained all of 2024 about DL depth and lack of pressure on the QB.

Conversely I think Person over Ayers would have been a difficult choice as well.
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TecnoGenius

To me I'm more puzzled why we are using a 2nd GLOB at all instead of a NAT.

I'm not sure we don't use that "final spot" more as a look-see for the lesser-knowns, or as a "here have an AR cheque this week" bonus.

We were fine at REC depth (the same as usual, 1 NAT) so it's ok we didn't put Cobb or someone in.  I also think we're fine at DL depth: we often run thin like this.  Certainly don't need more LBers.

So to me the weird thing is why not take that final spot and put Vibert in for jumbo / depth?

As to Weitz vs Bailey:
1) Bailey was the guy who stood out in PS, right?  That's the only reason people are saying his name?
2) Weitz is the sophomore right?  The guy we want to take the next step, if possible?

Ya, six of one, half dozen of the other.  I guess the known-quantity was more desirable than the look-see for this week.  Also could be a bit of a "reward".
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Sir Blue and Gold

 
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 06:09:53 AMTo me I'm more puzzled why we are using a 2nd GLOB at all instead of a NAT.

I'm not sure we don't use that "final spot" more as a look-see for the lesser-knowns, or as a "here have an AR cheque this week" bonus.

We were fine at REC depth (the same as usual, 1 NAT) so it's ok we didn't put Cobb or someone in.  I also think we're fine at DL depth: we often run thin like this.  Certainly don't need more LBers.

So to me the weird thing is why not take that final spot and put Vibert in for jumbo / depth?

As to Weitz vs Bailey:
1) Bailey was the guy who stood out in PS, right?  That's the only reason people are saying his name?
2) Weitz is the sophomore right?  The guy we want to take the next step, if possible?

Ya, six of one, half dozen of the other.  I guess the known-quantity was more desirable than the look-see for this week.  Also could be a bit of a "reward".


I think the answer to this question is that a second global is equivalent to a Canadian, ratio-wise (from an American/Canadian balance perspective) and therefore you just put the best player out there. Is it the second global or the 21st best Canadian?


Blue In BC

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 22, 2025, 12:48:38 PMI think the answer to this question is that a second global is equivalent to a Canadian, ratio-wise (from an American/Canadian balance perspective) and therefore you just put the best player out there. Is it the second global or the 21st best Canadian?


That's at least partially true. I've been trying to make the point of what player fills more of a specific need even as a back up.

Weitz did see the field on coverage teams but didn't record a stat. Not sure if he was on return teams as well. The concern is how do we fill an issue at DE which why the question about Bailey.

If Willie had been ejected at the end of the 1st half instead of very late in the game, how would we adjust and how well.

Have read some comments that both Jefferson and Vaughter are not exactly young players. Playing as many snaps due to lack of rotation doesn't do either any good. Yes we use LB's on defence quite a bit but we need to beef up the rotation at DE when that is the formation.

I'd also like to see Person get a chance too but ratio is another example where we have to make a trade off. Options are open but it's a pick your position kind of issue. I don't particularly want to take anyone off. Can't get Vanterpool back easily  either.




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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 22, 2025, 12:48:38 PMI think the answer to this question is that a second global is equivalent to a Canadian, ratio-wise (from an American/Canadian balance perspective) and therefore you just put the best player out there. Is it the second global or the 21st best Canadian?

Nope.  AR total ratio, sure, but not starter-ratio in-game-replacement!  The GLOB can only come on for an IMP, like an extra DI.

So your above statement is true only as it relates to a ST-only guy.  Because if you're talking about coming on for O or D, then the dude has to be better than the other IMP DIs.  (Or they have to be wedged in only as a speller for a few snaps.)

A NAT is always more desirable than the equivalent GLOB, because they can come in at any time, for any player.  So the GLOB would have to be much better than the NAT... or we don't really care about that final spot on the AR and we want to spread the love around.
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