Blue Bombers Transactions - December 6, 2024

[Waffler]

Taman rarely had a first rounder. Joe Mack picked: Henoc Muamba, Jade Etienne, Tyson Pencer, Andy Mulumba. Also under Mack, Kito Poblah cost us our 2012 first rounder.  None of them really worked out for the Bombers.  Muamba had a good career though mostly elsewhere, he stayed here only his first 3 years with the first year being more of a developmental one.

[blue_gold_84]

Joe Mack was terrible at assessing Canadian talent, IMO.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Joe Mack was terrible at assessing Canadian talent, IMO.

Walters was largely responsible for choosing many of the picks Mack made in the draft, as he first started with the team in 2010 when Mack became GM.

[blue_gold_84]

Walters was largely responsible for choosing many of the picks Mack made in the draft, as he first started with the team in 2010 when Mack became GM.

Revisionist history.

I have seen no evidence to support that nonsense in bold. And besides, Walters only became asst GM in 2013, anyway. He was the ST coordinator from 2010 through 2013.

And considering how proficiently Walters has drafted since becoming GM, it leads me to think that he had no say in decisions with Mack at the helm - if that was even a privilege he had back then.

I stand by my statement: Mack sucks.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Revisionist history.

I have seen no evidence to support that nonsense in bold. And besides, Walters only became asst GM in 2013, anyway. He was the ST coordinator from 2010 through 2013.

And considering how proficiently Walters has drafted since becoming GM, it leads me to think that he had no say in decisions with Mack at the helm - if that was even a privilege he had back then.

I stand by my statement: Mack sucks.

Walters was involved in the Canadian draft as early as 2010 as he was Mack's connection to Canadian college talent, having coached the Guelph Gryphons 2006-09 he has always been plugged into Natl. player talent.  I did not say he made the draft selections, Mack made the final decisions but Walters was the one that did the ground work and put together the dossier of draft picks for review.

[theaardvark]

Walters was largely responsible for choosing many of the picks Mack made in the draft, as he first started with the team in 2010 when Mack became GM.

Walter, IIRC, was in charge of putting together the list fr the draft.

Joe Mack was famous for going away from that list.  Ty Pencer is a prime example.  3rd overall pick, traded the 8th and 13th pick to move up, would have been available much later in the draft in all probability, again, If I Recall Correctly.  He wasn't even on teh board as a top pick, he was 9th on the first list, but fell off the second and final top prospects list. 

https://www.cfl.ca/2012/05/03/bombers-move-up-draft-pencer-third-overall/

I don't think Pencer was even on Walters list... Mack made that choice 100% on his own, and Johnny Aprile next.

We ended up with Jake Thomas in the 5th round, so, not too bad...

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Walter, IIRC, was in charge of putting together the list fr the draft.

Joe Mack was famous for going away from that list.  Ty Pencer is a prime example.  3rd overall pick, traded the 8th and 13th pick to move up, would have been available much later in the draft in all probability, again, If I Recall Correctly.  He wasn't even on teh board as a top pick, he was 9th on the first list, but fell off the second and final top prospects list. 

https://www.cfl.ca/2012/05/03/bombers-move-up-draft-pencer-third-overall/

I don't think Pencer was even on Walters list... Mack made that choice 100% on his own, and Johnny Aprile next.

We ended up with Jake Thomas in the 5th round, so, not too bad...

Wasn't Pencer 6'-9"?  They drafted another matching Natl. O-line tower Paul Swiston around the same time that never amounted to anything either. Too bad height doesn't equate to ability.

[theaardvark]

Wasn't Pencer 6'-9"?  They drafted another matching Natl. O-line tower Paul Swiston around the same time that never amounted to anything either. Too bad height doesn't equate to ability.

If you read the article, it is very onfusing as to why they drafted Pencer.  He played DE and OT, and teh article mentions replacing DB97, but also that Mack liked how he played LT... makes no sense, but Joe Mack rarely did

[blue_gold_84]

Walters was involved in the Canadian draft as early as 2010 as he was Mack's connection to Canadian college talent, having coached the Guelph Gryphons 2006-09 he has always been plugged into Natl. player talent.  I did not say he made the draft selections, Mack made the final decisions but Walters was the one that did the ground work and put together the dossier of draft picks for review.

Indeed, Mack made the final call with draft picks. Thanks for helping prove my point.

[ichabod_crane]

Kito Poblah?

Yes, thanks for another one to toss into the bust bin!

[ichabod_crane]

Revisionist history.

I have seen no evidence to support that nonsense in bold. And besides, Walters only became asst GM in 2013, anyway. He was the ST coordinator from 2010 through 2013.

And considering how proficiently Walters has drafted since becoming GM, it leads me to think that he had no say in decisions with Mack at the helm - if that was even a privilege he had back then.

I stand by my statement: Mack sucks.

Too easy too pass up, but maybe MACK was on CRACK?! Some of those draft choices are truly bizarro. 

[theaardvark]

Too easy too pass up, but maybe MACK was on CRACK?! Some of those draft choices are truly bizarro. 

It was like he wanted to make the unconventional picks, have them work out and be considered a genius... and when none of them did... he got fired.

[ModAdmin]

If you read the article, it is very onfusing as to why they drafted Pencer.  He played DE and OT, and teh article mentions replacing DB97, but also that Mack liked how he played LT... makes no sense, but Joe Mack rarely did

Mixed reviews on Tyson Pencer prior to his stint in the CFL.  He was ranked as the ninth best player in the Canadian Football League's Amateur Scouting Bureau September rankings for players eligible in the 2012 CFL Draft.

[theaardvark]

Mixed reviews on Tyson Pencer prior to his stint in the CFL.  He was ranked as the ninth best player in the Canadian Football League's Amateur Scouting Bureau September rankings for players eligible in the 2012 CFL Draft.

But disappeared from the last two lists altogether...

He shared a house with Anthony Woodson and Rene Stephan, i gave them a ride home one night after a poker tournament, and ended up being sort of a local guide, helping them with stuff as none had a car.  i'm not sure if I recall correctly, but it seemed like every time I visited, he was playing video games..  he always seemed to be injured.  They all ended up needing surgery that year, Ty and Rene for shoulder injuries...  not a lucky household...