Would you go for it on that 3rd down?

[theaardvark]

A bit ironic given how we lost the game: by a ball wobbling in and out over the uprights leaving the entire game up to the one ref staring up hoping his eye is aligned with the post properly and he can properly measure a ball position within an inch 30Y above his head!

At least the spot was reviewable and reviewed!  The kick result gets no second guess ever because there are no cams to triangulate.

I guess they need a chip in the ball (just kidding, if there was a chip it would have missed by 10 yards)

Still don't know why they don't have a laser pointer on the inside of the goal post pointing upwards.  if it flashes on the ball, it's over the post (no good).  If it doesn't flash the ball, it's good.

Pretty simple, really.

[dd]

I guess they need a chip in the ball (just kidding, if there was a chip it would have missed by 10 yards)

Still don't know why they don't have a laser pointer on the inside of the goal post pointing upwards.  if it flashes on the ball, it's over the post (no good).  If it doesn't flash the ball, it's good.

Pretty simple, really.

The laser on the goal post makes total sense, cheap to implement, puts the good/no good argument to bed. Get it done!!

[bomb squad]

Are you suuuuuuuuure?  When they blew in that 3rd down gamble the clock said 1:14.  You suuuuuuuuuure we can hold a desperate 3-down-mode good TOR team (yes they are good) to nothing, or just a FG (which will give the same result as blowing the sneak)?

Are you suuuuuuure Castillo gets that FG from 30YL, which is where he'd kick from?

Again, how many games and cups have we lost by playing super safe on 2nd down (like both GCs) or screwed up FGs ('22 GC, this TOR game).

What makes you feel worse as a fan: having full control of the ball and coming up short, or giving the ball back and watching the other team ram it down our throats?

If the make the first down they likely would have been kicking the field goal from virtually the same spot anyway.

[TecnoGenius]

Still don't know why they don't have a laser pointer on the inside of the goal post pointing upwards.  if it flashes on the ball, it's over the post (no good).  If it doesn't flash the ball, it's good.

Because it would cost the league an extra $100 per game?      

You bring up a good question though: does the ball have to go inside the inside of the uprights?  Or over the uprights?  Or over but not beyond the outside of the uprights?

Rule 3 - Section 2 - Article 2 says "between the goal posts (or goal posts extended)"

So I guess you are right.  A laser pointer on the inside is enough to prove a FG was scored... well, at least if it's not snowing!

You could also do it by rigging a camera anywhere at the side of the stadium where it can aim straight at the uprights so they are in a perfect line.  If you time-sync that shot with the behind the posts shot you can have effective reviews because then you know the instant the ball is over the posts, then correlate with where it is between/outside the posts.

[theaardvark]

If a laser pointer isn't high enough tech, a simple fixed camera on top of the posts.  Use a backup camera, which can put those funny guide lines up.  Then you can actually see if the ball is inside the post. 

But the laser is still best, if it touches the ball, that means it would have touched the post. 

On further review, I guess it has to give the inside third of the post to the kicker, that would have hit and bounced in.  Middle third donk, dead ball.  Outer third, live ball.

[Horseman]

Yes, I would have made the same decision and would again if in the same position. I think Strevie got the required yard but it was a bad spot even after being reviewed.

[TecnoGenius]

Real close battle on the results of this poll.  You still have time to vote or even change your answer!  Closes in the wee hours tonight (i.e. a few hours from this post you're reading).

It's clear we're all basically split 50/50 on the call.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/07/30/coach-oshea-july-30-3/

Skip to around 4:30

MOS is clear that he agrees with the YES's here in the poll.  And addresses the fact he said otherwise in the post-game (heat of the moment?).

If we're faced with it again, I hope OL and Strev get the gravity of the situation and do their best to bust through that line.

P.S. The key is to follow the best hoggie... Wallace blew it and it was probably Eli next to him who also was weak.  So why is Strev being told to take that hole?  With our OL issues and the presence of rookies, I don't know why you aren't running behind/beside Big Stan.  I would put Big Stan and Wallace as the road graders with no gap between them and run right there.  Make sure Wallace understands he can't outrun the QB.  The supporting cast can be sealers.

We also need to add the "diving jump-over" option to Strev's repertoire.  Don't use it often (can fail if some LB guesses the jump point), just once in a while to keep them thinking.  The advantage to the jump-over is the refs and cams can clearly see the ball.