Huge game, huge crowd, huge implications!
A win and the Bombers wrap up first place and a bye into the Western final.
Dalton Schoen is out for this game. Demerio Houston, Brandon Alexander, Shane Gauthier and Jackson Jeffcoat listed as questionable as of October 19th.
In: #29 McCrae
Out: #83 Schoen
Looks like #84, Brendan O'Leary-Orange starts in place of Dalton Schoen.
Ed Tait's 48-Hour Primer is here - https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/10/19/48-hour-primer-edm-vs-wpg-5/
Notables - get to the game early and collect a $10 gift card for Save On Foods
- there will be a 2024 early bird season ticket member draw
- at half time, Justin Medlock will be honoured as a Hall of Fame inductee
- and, of course, $5.00 beer, $3.50 hot dogs, $3.50 fountain drinks prior to the game.
Be there, be involved and cheer the Bombers on to a win!
October 21, 2023 Depth Chart is here...
https://twitter.com/Wpg_BlueBombers/status/1715367428127866947/photo/1
So no Gauthier, no Noah Hallett and no Houston.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 20, 2023, 04:08:02 PM
So no Gauthier, no Noah Hallett and no Houston.
I don't think Noah will play this season. I think Houston is on the fence. Gauthier looked ready go??
Quote from: ModAdmin on October 20, 2023, 12:01:06 AM
Huge game, huge crowd, huge implications!
A win and the Bombers wrap up first place and a bye into the Western final.
Dalton Schoen is out for this game. Demerio Houston, Brandon Alexander, Shane Gauthier and Jackson Jeffcoat listed as questionable as of October 19th.
In: #29 McCrae
Out: #83 Schoen
Looks like #84, Brendan O'Leary-Orange starts in place of Dalton Schoen.
Ed Tait's 48-Hour Primer is here - https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/10/19/48-hour-primer-edm-vs-wpg-5/
Notables - get to the game early and collect a $10 gift card for Save On Foods
- there will be a 2024 early bird season ticket member draw
- at half time, Justin Medlock will be honoured as a Hall of Fame inductee
- and, of course, $5.00 beer, $3.50 hot dogs, $3.50 fountain drinks prior to the game.
Be there, be involved and cheer the Bombers on to a win!
While I hate to use the word "Must Win" I would much rather win this game and not have to win in Calgary next week. If the Argo's beat the Riders (which they should) and even if the Stamps lose to BC this week - the Bomber final game in Calgary would be a challange if we need the win to ensure home field advantage and get the bye into the WF. Much better to win tomorrow at home and not worry about the away game the following week. I just hope the Bombers do not take the Elks for granted as they at times do by playing down to the level of the opponent etc. They need to treat this game like a playoff game.
I expecting a big game from BOO84.
Besides HAM, WPG seems to be the worst at putting their chart up on their web site...
https://www.bluebombers.com/2023-position-charts/
As of 15:37 Oct 20 the chart is not up. The "twitter chart" is not even an official CFL chart, as the layout is all standardized across the league, and that's not it.
Not sure why it's so hard to put the real chart up on time.
So BOO gets the starting spot and McCrae comes in as the Woli relief, which we can do because of the 9 NAT starters? Interesting... And Woli moved inside to slot from the wide out. Interesting. I bet in-game these guys are all over the place in terms of actual slot / position.
Real chart is up now:
https://d3ham790trbkqy.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/06/EDMONTON-AT-WINNIPEG_OCT-21.pdf
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 20, 2023, 08:40:07 PM
Besides HAM, WPG seems to be the worst at putting their chart up on their web site...
https://www.bluebombers.com/2023-position-charts/
As of 15:37 Oct 20 the chart is not up. The "twitter chart" is not even an official CFL chart, as the layout is all standardized across the league, and that's not it.
Not sure why it's so hard to put the real chart up on time.
The Twitter Chart was put up by Ed Tait so I believe it is pretty official.
How much do Zach and BO play in this game ?
Quote from: The Zipp on October 21, 2023, 04:29:43 AM
How much do Zach and BO play in this game ?
The 1st. Q.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 21, 2023, 04:59:57 AM
The 1st. Q.
Yup, and Brady, and...
And that reminds me, time to go change my fantasy to Johnny. Brady is 100% as important as Zach to our near future success.
Release the Kraken: Eli, Dobson, Augustine, BOO and Hallett. Time to shine.
We don't have a very large number of players on our IR compared to most teams. I think we might see 3 or 4 players on our PR get some duty next week. Haba, Fox, Garbutt and Richmond perhaps.
Just need to avoid any new injuries as much as possible.
Not a bad fall night. 12C at kickoff, very little wind. Should be a nice night.
I don't want to see Jeffcoat on the field until the WF. Our defence is not the same without him - he has been banged up all year.
Let Hansen and Bennet play the whole game.
Hey guys, I?m just in the states today won?t be able to attend today?s bomber game. However, is this game being broadcasted on CBS or just on ESPN plus? Just in Kansas City here trying to find a Way or method of seeing the game tonight. Thanks in advance
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 21, 2023, 01:07:07 PM
Release the Kraken: Eli, Dobson, Augustine, BOO and Hallett. Time to shine.
We don't have a very large number of players on our IR compared to most teams.
You should see TOR's IR! It's a major joke how obvious they "cheat" using the IR. MOS said in a presser WFC mostly doesn't do that, but other teams do. Does the league not require at least a hint of legitimacy for IR? Does TOR at least make up a "turf toe" excuse for all these guys?
I guess if all it costs them is SMS$ then I guess they'll do it. However, the SMS adding up might put them over the limit or leave no extra $$ at the end of season to pre-pay players for next year.
Still, it's a bad look for the league. Why not just create an actual "parked player" roster where they receive full pay, can't be sniped, etc, like the 1G-IR, and normal SMS treatment. At least then teams wouldn't have to mark 15 guys as having turf toe.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 21, 2023, 07:58:13 PM
You should see TOR's IR! It's a major joke how obvious they "cheat" using the IR. MOS said in a presser WFC mostly doesn't do that, but other teams do. Does the league not require at least a hint of legitimacy for IR? Does TOR at least make up a "turf toe" excuse for all these guys?
I guess if all it costs them is SMS$ then I guess they'll do it. However, the SMS adding up might put them over the limit or leave no extra $$ at the end of season to pre-pay players for next year.
Still, it's a bad look for the league. Why not just create an actual "parked player" roster where they receive full pay, can't be sniped, etc, like the 1G-IR, and normal SMS treatment. At least then teams wouldn't have to mark 15 guys as having turf toe.
We've done it in the past activating PR players for a game that didn't impact the final standings. We'll probably do it next week for our last regular season game.
Argos locked up 1st place with 6 games to go so that put them in an unusual situation. Just looked at their 1 game IR and they put 6 players on the 1 game IR for this week. My guess is that it adds another $3K per player over a PR SMS hit. If they do that for 4 games that will add quite a bit to their 2023 SMS.
I don't see any issues with their 6 game IR. Those seem to be legit long term injuries.
Fortunate for them is that they aren't paying Kelly starting QB money this season so they have some room in theory.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 21, 2023, 07:20:20 PM
Hey guys, I?m just in the states today won?t be able to attend today?s bomber game. However, is this game being broadcasted on CBS or just on ESPN plus? Just in Kansas City here trying to find a Way or method of seeing the game tonight. Thanks in advance
The only way I get the bombers vs bc a couple of weeks ago in minny was Tsn app using a vpn on my phone
Have fun buddy!!
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on October 21, 2023, 07:20:20 PM
Hey guys, I?m just in the states today won?t be able to attend today?s bomber game. However, is this game being broadcasted on CBS or just on ESPN plus? Just in Kansas City here trying to find a Way or method of seeing the game tonight. Thanks in advance
I don't think the game is on CBS, only TSN+, if you are subscribed to TSN you should be able to watch on a laptop.
Touch down BO!!!! ;D
14-0
Yah!!
Not convinced that Kramdi won't cost us in the playoffs ...
Demski limping
That seemed like a chincy call on the objectional conduct penalty
Would Dunigan Please shut Up.
Far too much yapping.
Listened to the panel raving about Demski and Oliveira coming from the same high school, Oak Park in Winnipeg, and complimenting the high school coach. How did they forget about Andrew Harris who also played for Oak Park??? All three played at different times, but all played for the same coach - Stu Nixon.
Ya Andrew ain?t playing in the game tonight
Our special teams absolutely stink!!
our kickoff coverage has been an issue all year, you'd think we'd have fixed it by now.
The other special teams have been good
Brady Oliveira came in with 1,426 rushing yards and finished the night with 72 so 1,498 on the season. That's second best all-time for Canadian running backs in a season, Cornish in first at 1,813.
I reckon 1,500 is probably a bonus number so maybe O'Shea starts him vs. CGY, rush it up the middle first play, get the two yards then sits him until the WF.
Never a dull moment. Bombers were a little more sloppy than usual and that kept the Elks in the game somewhat. 2 PI's and 3 RP's IIRC.
Anyone at the game figure out what happened on the 77 yard Elk pass and run? Somebody missed an assignment or fell down?
I was hoping for another 50+ points when we got up in the 4th Q. Probably could have but we just ran out the clock rather than looking to score. Ok, I understand.
Hallett played well. I thought he'd get in earlier due to Alexander not 100%. Now he can rest up more next week.
Mostly good, special teams still not championship caliber.
No injuries...I don't think...
Congrats to Oak Park...1000/1000 Brady and Demski!
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 22, 2023, 02:18:26 AM
Never a dull moment. Bombers were a little more sloppy than usual and that kept the Elks in the game somewhat. 2 PI's and 3 RP's IIRC.
Anyone at the game figure out what happened on the 77 yard Elk pass and run? Somebody missed an assignment or fell down?
I was hoping for another 50+ points when we got up in the 4th Q. Probably could have but we just ran out the clock rather than looking to score. Ok, I understand.
Hallett played well. I thought he'd get in earlier due to Alexander not 100%. Now he can rest up more next week.
Even seeing it in person was tough to figure out what happened. Maybe Kramdi?
Our special teams still a weakness... special teams coordinator isn't doing much.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 22, 2023, 02:33:54 AM
Even seeing it in person was tough to figure out what happened. Maybe Kramdi?
Assignment errors happen and sometimes it's the opponent calling the right play at the right time that took advantage. This one just happened to be a bigger result due to the YAC making it look worse. We've had a few of these in 2023 but overall not many compared to other teams.
We won big so let the coaches sort out what happened.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 22, 2023, 02:18:26 AM
Never a dull moment. Bombers were a little more sloppy than usual and that kept the Elks in the game somewhat. 2 PI's and 3 RP's IIRC.
Anyone at the game figure out what happened on the 77 yard Elk pass and run? Somebody missed an assignment or fell down?
I was hoping for another 50+ points when we got up in the 4th Q. Probably could have but we just ran out the clock rather than looking to score. Ok, I understand.
Hallett played well. I thought he'd get in earlier due to Alexander not 100%. Now he can rest up more next week.
I think Holm was blitzing and no one picked up Manny....
Quote from: theaardvark on October 22, 2023, 02:04:30 PM
I think Holm was blitzing and no one picked up Manny....
I just re-watched the game and still nothing is obvious from the TV view. The only thing I noticed was that I couldn't see Alexander or Hallett in at safety. Holm was close to the LOS but I tend to think this may have been a miscommunication between either SAM or safety if that was the case.
Even though it was not a great play on defence I was impressed by the DB's chasing him down. Kramdi and Parker showed some speed and great effort.
Hardrick penalty on the Lawler catch seemed very marginal at best. What threw me off more is that I thought Lawler had made the 1st down. To that end it would have moved the ball back but wouldn't have that made it 1st down not 3rd and 10? It was a penalty " after " the play. Was Lawler short of the 1st down making it 3rd and 10 1/2 or something to that effect?
I actually thought we were going to challenge the down and distance based on that but we didn't. It was one of those plays that could have had a significant impact in the end but didn't.
Elks nearly getting a pick 6 and then us going on to score kind of said it all for the Elks though.
Quote from: Tehedra on October 22, 2023, 12:03:06 AM
That seemed like a chincy call on the objectional conduct penalty
Ya, finally saw it on TV, that was pretty weak. Just pushed him off the pile a little bit to protect his guy. I can see how they called it, but almost always do they let that go. Inconsistency by refs again. Made the game a little closer than it should have been as that would have been a TD after a Prukop sneak.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 21, 2023, 11:54:59 PM
Demski limping
EDIT: I see later in the broadcast they showed the Demski boo-boo. Looks like an ankle catch on Yoshi, but hard to tell what the injury could be. Didn't really look like much. So maybe it's nothing.
Demski did a post-game presser on the web site, and no mention or question at all about any injury. Surely they wouldn't haul out a limping guy for the post-game? So many other guys they could interview, like game-star Bailey.
Anyhow, it's critical both Schoen and Demski are available for the GC. We can probably win a WDF missing one of those guys, but not both. BOO84 and McCrae are nice, but they aren't Demski and Schoen.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 22, 2023, 02:18:26 AM
Anyone at the game figure out what happened on the 77 yard Elk pass and run? Somebody missed an assignment or fell down?
I think they just completely ignored the TEs. Everyone thought "run play 'cause jumbo set"? No one even thought of Manny Show. So I guess that would go down to "missed assignment". Who would normally have the TE? Probably a LB. So maybe Kramdi, ya. But who knows. If Morgan had McCrae on a play, then this bust could have been on Biggie or Wilson, or even BA as you said. In the end I think it's just a case of no respect for Manny. Watching him still speed along was fun, though, as who can't like seeing Manny break one out? It's like watching Thick Nick's final few catches and steamrolls.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 22, 2023, 02:04:30 PM
I think Holm was blitzing and no one picked up Manny....
Could be. But there was a lot of action in the box, so who's to say it's on Holm.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 22, 2023, 02:29:56 PM
Hardrick penalty on the Lawler catch seemed very marginal at best. What threw me off more is that I thought Lawler had made the 1st down. To that end it would have moved the ball back but wouldn't have that made it 1st down not 3rd and 10? It was a penalty " after " the play. Was Lawler short of the 1st down making it 3rd and 10 1/2 or something to that effect?
Ya, @IGF I was wondering the same thing. On my computer though it's pretty clear they got the spot mostly right. They may have been off a half yard, at most, which still probably wasn't enough. Yoshi will learn and try to keep his frequent extra-curriculars within the whistles.
Tell you what, if we're ever hard up for a MLB, keep EDM's Morgan in mind. That guy never quit, he motored to every play, made a ton of big stops, got tons of DT stats, hits hard, seems pretty smart. Call me impressed.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 23, 2023, 08:01:31 AM
Tell you what, if we're ever hard up for a MLB, keep EDM's Morgan in mind. That guy never quit, he motored to every play, made a ton of big stops, got tons of DT stats, hits hard, seems pretty smart. Call me impressed.
He's not shown to be a potential free agent going into 2024. Our list of potential free agents is very long and we'll have to see who we get back and who we might pick up in free agency in 2024.
There are always some top players moving to a new team. Hopefully we aren't losing anybody we want to retain.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 23, 2023, 03:07:50 AM
Ya, finally saw it on TV, that was pretty weak. Just pushed him off the pile a little bit to protect his guy. I can see how they called it, but almost always do they let that go. Inconsistency by refs again. Made the game a little closer than it should have been as that would have been a TD after a Prukop sneak.
Brutal call. Yoshi actually looked like he was being nice about it. Carefully lifted off a guy trying to agitate Lawler.
He should have came in full speed and plowed him off like a bulldozer. Would have got the same penalty.