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Edmonton releases 6 players including Duron Carter and Tony Washington.

Dyce is the new Head Coach in Ottawa. Congratulations.

Bobby Dyce appointment...

https://www.ottawaredblacks.com/2022/12/02/bob-dyce-named-third-head-coach-in-ottawa-redblacks-history/

Good for Dyce. He's a beauty.

Quote from: ModAdmin on December 02, 2022, 04:43:03 PM
Bobby Dyce appointment...

https://www.ottawaredblacks.com/2022/12/02/bob-dyce-named-third-head-coach-in-ottawa-redblacks-history/

Good for Bob Dyce, but I'm not sure he can change their fortunes without some very good coordinators, time will tell.

Quote from: ModAdmin on December 02, 2022, 04:37:38 PM
Edmonton releases 6 players including Duron Carter and Tony Washington.

Tony Washington may spark some interest - Duron Carter - not so much!

Good for Bobby, he's always been a favourite.  A good man and a good leader.  Its time he got a legit shot.  Its just too bad its with such a trainwreck of a team.  Maybe they can have a good offseason and he starts out strong.  Wonder if Masoli will be his guy... or if they make a play for a different QB...

Sounds like Eugene Lewis is not excited about about returning to Montreal unless their is "better communication" with the coaching staff. 

Quote from: ModAdmin on December 02, 2022, 09:44:10 PM
Sounds like Eugene Lewis is not excited about about returning to Montreal unless their is "better communication" with the coaching staff. 

Eeek.

Well, I guess they have time to add their coach and get him back on board. Doesn't sound good, though.

Quote from: ModAdmin on December 02, 2022, 09:44:10 PM
Sounds like Eugene Lewis is not excited about about returning to Montreal unless their is "better communication" with the coaching staff. 

He would look amazing in blue and gold.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 02, 2022, 05:21:34 PM
Good for Bob Dyce, but I'm not sure he can change their fortunes without some very good coordinators, time will tell.

Khari Jones joins the Redblacks as OC and assistant HC.  That improves the team IMO.

Khari is a good. Coach.  He. Has to act like a leader and coach, not one of the boys.

Quote from: Blue In BC on December 03, 2022, 04:15:12 PM
Khari Jones joins the Redblacks as OC and assistant HC.  That improves the team IMO.

I could see that coming and it?s a good move for Dyce.

Baron Miles added to Redblacks as DC. Another positive addition.

That seems like decent coaching core. Good on them.

Quote from: Blue In BC on December 05, 2022, 03:26:13 PM
Baron Miles added to Redblacks as DC. Another positive addition.

Quite a few solid additions recently. They should be an improved team in 2023.

Dyce is finding a nice mix... although the Miles/Jones combo is coming off a bad situation in MTL.  They definitely got a raw deal there, but still.

Wonder if Arndt gets a look elsewhere as an OC... maybe in SSK?  

Quote from: theaardvark on December 05, 2022, 04:23:37 PM
Dyce is finding a nice mix... although the Miles/Jones combo is coming off a bad situation in MTL.  They definitely got a raw deal there, but still.

Wonder if Arndt gets a look elsewhere as an OC... maybe in SSK?  

Benevides has also been set free, but he should find a soft place to land, even if it is on TSN.

Burnham retires: https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/bc-lions-bryan-burnham-retirement-1.1889437

This could be part of why Rourke was so emotional after losing the West Final.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2022, 03:41:22 PM
Burnham retires: https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/bc-lions-bryan-burnham-retirement-1.1889437

This could be part of why Rourke was so emotional after losing the West Final.

Wow... it was a tough year for Burnham last year, broken ribs, punctured lung, fractured wrist.  Only 32... I guess Father Time catches up to some a lot faster than others.  Going into 2023 without Rourke probably doesn't have as much hope for success to work through those issues... wonder what he is moving on to?

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2022, 03:41:22 PM
Burnham retires: https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/bc-lions-bryan-burnham-retirement-1.1889437

This could be part of why Rourke was so emotional after losing the West Final.

That makes 100% sense now. He wanted to send BB out a winner and didn't.

There was a great story on TSN about Burnham and his wife trying to adopt a couple of children. He had a great career and is amazing talent. 

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Former Bomber DE Alex McCalluster added by BC

Quote from: ModAdmin on December 02, 2022, 04:37:38 PM
Edmonton releases 6 players including Duron Carter and Tony Washington.

Yay!  <Mumbles something something about rubbish>

Quote from: Blue In BC on December 02, 2022, 04:41:58 PM
Dyce is the new Head Coach in Ottawa. Congratulations.

Good move.  However, wasn't Dyce the temp HC of another team in the past... SSK I think when Chamblin was canned?  Didn't do that well.  Going by old memories here... don't quote me on this.  Didn't do that great as temp HC in OTT either, but hard to succeed with that lot.  Could be a stop-gap HC, they can sacrifice him without much cost if they have another garbage year.

Quote from: theaardvark on December 02, 2022, 05:36:03 PM
Wonder if Masoli will be his guy... or if they make a play for a different QB...

Masoli is still a top QB.  He just needs to stay healthy.  If Masoli gets banged up and is gone another half/full season I think that'll be it for his career.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2022, 03:41:22 PM
Burnham retires: https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/bc-lions-bryan-burnham-retirement-1.1889437

This could be part of why Rourke was so emotional after losing the West Final.

Ah, yes.  That makes a lot of sense.  Burnham going is a huge loss to the league.  He was still the best.  But too much tub time and he doesn't want to end up in a wheelchair.  Oh ya, and this makes BC far weaker, even with Rourke.  I'd say the top WRs in CFL are now are Lewis and Lawler.  Both are now elite (yes, Lawler can claim that title now that he regularly makes Burnham-style catches).

I hope the CFL scouts (all teams) are bringing up the next generation of talent, as the CFL has been hurting for more circus-level freak receivers the last few years.  Not enough to go around.  Why are there no waterbugs anymore?  The Dressler-type guys with sick hands are perfect for the CFL since they are too tiny to last long in the NFL (or get any look at all), and yet they are elite level receivers who can dazzle audiences with circus jumps and dives.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on December 16, 2022, 05:12:38 AM
Yay!  <Mumbles something something about rubbish>

Good move.  However, wasn't Dyce the temp HC of another team in the past... SSK I think when Chamblin was canned?  Didn't do that well.  Going by old memories here... don't quote me on this.  Didn't do that great as temp HC in OTT either, but hard to succeed with that lot.  Could be a stop-gap HC, they can sacrifice him without much cost if they have another garbage year.

Masoli is still a top QB.  He just needs to stay healthy.  If Masoli gets banged up and is gone another half/full season I think that'll be it for his career.

Ah, yes.  That makes a lot of sense.  Burnham going is a huge loss to the league.  He was still the best.  But too much tub time and he doesn't want to end up in a wheelchair.  Oh ya, and this makes BC far weaker, even with Rourke.  I'd say the top WRs in CFL are now are Lewis and Lawler.  Both are now elite (yes, Lawler can claim that title now that he regularly makes Burnham-style catches).

I hope the CFL scouts (all teams) are bringing up the next generation of talent, as the CFL has been hurting for more circus-level freak receivers the last few years.  Not enough to go around.  Why are there no waterbugs anymore?  The Dressler-type guys with sick hands are perfect for the CFL since they are too tiny to last long in the NFL (or get any look at all), and yet they are elite level receivers who can dazzle audiences with circus jumps and dives.

Just look at the Bombers success, many teams (including the Stamps) are now taking the running game more seriously by bringing in bigger, stronger running backs.  Receivers are assigned blocking duties on many of these running plays which suits the Bombers receiver group very well.  Smaller receivers like Dressler and Banks are not as effective in this aspect of the game, which lessens their contributions to spectators on many plays.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 16, 2022, 05:07:07 PM
Just look at the Bombers success, many teams (including the Stamps) are now taking the running game more seriously by bringing in bigger, stronger running backs.  Receivers are assigned blocking duties on many of these running plays which suits the Bombers receiver group very well.  Smaller receivers like Dressler and Banks are not as effective in this aspect of the game, which lessens their contributions to spectators on many plays.

That's a good theory.  Could be the game is changing, or it could be the general talent level isn't what it used to be.  How can you tell?  Maybe someone who watches the NFL can answer that... are there as many great insane-talent diving/contorting receivers as there used to be?

If you're theory is correct, then we have another big downside: we are directly competing with the NFL for NFL-style receivers.  That would mean that instead of getting all the too-short/small NFL rejects (Dressler) we are directly competing with the NFL for big-body, tall, giant receivers.  That is bad, because then we can never be any better than "NFL-Lite".

Remember when we had Dressler and Smith?  Both waterbugs.  They made some sick diving catches, each, every few games, and it was spectacular to watch.  You don't see Bombers doing that anymore, not since Lawler left.

Much of these thoughts stem from that first GC deep pass to Schoen where it's just off his fingertips.  Why didn't he dive for it?  Dressler would have dived.  Missing that pass set the (bad) tone for the whole game.  These big-body guys rarely lay out for a catch these days.

Edmonton Elks Christian Saulsberry short and killed in the USA. Tragic news. RIP.

Spelling error corrected.

Quote from: Blue In BC on December 17, 2022, 07:42:43 PM
Edmonton Elks Christine Saulsberry short and killed in the USA. Tragic news. RIP.

Christian Saulsberry - yeah man, real shame to see any of our CFL brethren go down. Condolences to his family.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on December 16, 2022, 09:54:33 PM
That's a good theory.  Could be the game is changing, or it could be the general talent level isn't what it used to be.  How can you tell?  Maybe someone who watches the NFL can answer that... are there as many great insane-talent diving/contorting receivers as there used to be?

If you're theory is correct, then we have another big downside: we are directly competing with the NFL for NFL-style receivers.  That would mean that instead of getting all the too-short/small NFL rejects (Dressler) we are directly competing with the NFL for big-body, tall, giant receivers.  That is bad, because then we can never be any better than "NFL-Lite".

Remember when we had Dressler and Smith?  Both waterbugs.  They made some sick diving catches, each, every few games, and it was spectacular to watch.  You don't see Bombers doing that anymore, not since Lawler left.

Much of these thoughts stem from that first GC deep pass to Schoen where it's just off his fingertips.  Why didn't he dive for it?  Dressler would have dived.  Missing that pass set the (bad) tone for the whole game.  These big-body guys rarely lay out for a catch these days.

what are you taking about!?!? Lawler lays out for catches as good as or better than anyone big or small. Same with Burnham. Ditto for Ryhmes. And Eugene Lewis. And Shoen dove for many passes this year and I distinctly remember him getting s diving TD catch in BC. And Rasheed  bailey has made several diving specstular catches.  The Bombers have placed an emphasis on a receivers ability to block and have gone away from the small body reciever and rightfully so. Sure dressler and smith used to lay out for passes, but they couldn?t block a sneeze. And they were hurt quite a bit too.

Anyone hear about any PR players from the CFL opting / signing in the XFL? Their TC's start in January.

Quote from: dd on December 18, 2022, 12:10:28 AM
what are you taking about!?!? Lawler lays out for catches as good as or better than anyone big or small. Same with Burnham. Ditto for Ryhmes. And Eugene Lewis. And Shoen dove for many passes this year and I distinctly remember him getting s diving TD catch in BC. And Rasheed  bailey has made several diving specstular catches.  The Bombers have placed an emphasis on a receivers ability to block and have gone away from the small body reciever and rightfully so. Sure dressler and smith used to lay out for passes, but they couldn?t block a sneeze. And they were hurt quite a bit too.

It just stands to reason that if you have two receivers of equal ability you go with the bigger guy. However, receivers like Nelson, Grant, and even Demski are all under 6'. That being said, yes, we have definitely gotten bigger as a receiving corps. A lot of that has to do with DBs tending to get a lot bigger now too.

Quote from: GCn19 on December 19, 2022, 07:12:05 PM
It just stands to reason that if you have two receivers of equal ability you go with the bigger guy. However, receivers like Nelson, Grant, and even Demski are all under 6'. That being said, yes, we have definitely gotten bigger as a receiving corps. A lot of that has to do with DBs tending to get a lot bigger now too.

For sure. The days of the Davis Sanchez- smaller sized DB is over. Bigger stronger DB s means bigger stronger receivers

Quote from: dd on December 19, 2022, 10:21:18 PM
For sure. The days of the Davis Sanchez- smaller sized DB is over. Bigger stronger DB s means bigger stronger receivers

Were you as disappointed in Ellingson as I was? For a big receiver I don't recall him imposing his size out there. Injuries?

Quote from: J5V on December 19, 2022, 11:18:14 PM
Were you as disappointed in Ellingson as I was? For a big receiver I don't recall him imposing his size out there. Injuries?

I was disappointed that Ellingson only played a handful of games. I'm going to get flamed for this, but he was a poor signing. Coming off a bad season, at an advanced age isn't the receiver we should have been looking for.

Easy to say he was a poor signing in hindsight. Through a third of the 2022 season, he was the league's leading receiver in yardage and receptions, second in TDs, and had developed a really solid chemistry with Collaros. He and Schoen were the early bright spots on the offense when the run game had yet to establish itself.

Injuries evidently derailed his season but I can't agree he was a poor signing at free agency.

That being said, I fully expect the team to pass on re-signing him going into 2023.

Quote from: GCn19 on December 20, 2022, 07:41:53 PM
I was disappointed that Ellingson only played a handful of games. I'm going to get flamed for this, but he was a poor signing. Coming off a bad season, at an advanced age isn't the receiver we should have been looking for.

I wouldn't say a poor signing, but definitely a risky one.  He looked great for the first third, but if we hadn't lucked out with Schoen, then Ellingsons injuries would have put a large crimp in the season.  I would be looking for another top receiver in free agency.  But I might sign Ellingson to a games-played kind of deal until we see if Schoen is coming back.

Getting a little off track. This is about other CFL teams.

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Quote from: dd on December 18, 2022, 12:10:28 AM
what are you taking about!?!? Lawler lays out for catches as good as or better than anyone big or small. Same with Burnham. Ditto for Ryhmes. And Eugene Lewis. And Shoen dove for many passes this year and I distinctly remember him getting s diving TD catch in BC.

Yes, what you say is true.  But Lawler isn't with us anymore, neither all those other guys, except Schoen.  But Schoen wasn't a diver: not like Dressler and Lawler.  If he sort of dove or slid-caught, it's not really the same thing.  He was an upright receiver most of the time.  I'm sure if you think back to what Dress would do weekly you'll see the difference with Schoen.

The only guys who can make those catches these days are literally Lawler, Burnham (now gone) and Lewis.  Rhymes doesn't really fit the bill.  Even Lawler and Burnham never really dove like Dress.  Dress would just fly.  Cahoon used to do that too.

I dunno, it just seems like instead of having the treat of seeing that type of stuff weekly, we get maybe a couple/few in a whole season.  Maybe I'm just bitter Schoen didn't dive to haul in that tone-setting GC first drive explosion.  Maybe I'm also just romanticizing the ghost of CFL talent past.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 01, 2023, 06:24:27 AM
Yes, what you say is true.  But Lawler isn't with us anymore, neither all those other guys, except Schoen.  But Schoen wasn't a diver: not like Dressler and Lawler.  If he sort of dove or slid-caught, it's not really the same thing.  He was an upright receiver most of the time.  I'm sure if you think back to what Dress would do weekly you'll see the difference with Schoen.

The only guys who can make those catches these days are literally Lawler, Burnham (now gone) and Lewis.  Rhymes doesn't really fit the bill.  Even Lawler and Burnham never really dove like Dress.  Dress would just fly.  Cahoon used to do that too.

I dunno, it just seems like instead of having the treat of seeing that type of stuff weekly, we get maybe a couple/few in a whole season.  Maybe I'm just bitter Schoen didn't dive to haul in that tone-setting GC first drive explosion.  Maybe I'm also just romanticizing the ghost of CFL talent past.

Why do you want our receivers to be diving to make every catch?  That usually means the ball is poorly thrown and no yards after the catch?

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Quote from: bluengold204 on January 01, 2023, 05:05:57 PM
Why do you want our receivers to be diving to make every catch?  That usually means the ball is poorly thrown and no yards after the catch?

Bit of a strawman ("every").  And ya, no YAC.  But diving circus catches becoming a lost art in the CFL means:

1. Less entertainment value for the fans (ask any Greenie fan how much they miss Dressler)

2. More incompletions.

Are you telling me you wouldn't have rather seen Schoen make that GC explosion catch whilst diving vs dropping it off his fingertips??

Sure I would have like to see Schoen catch that pass, but then we would have went 2 and out and we would have missed the field goal!!!

Argos release B. Banks.

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 03, 2023, 03:12:30 PM
Argos release B. Banks.

He should have had the good sense to retire once he won his Grey Cup.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 03, 2023, 03:47:50 PM
He should have had the good sense to retire once he won his Grey Cup.

Someone might sign him for a low ball offer if they have injuries or need a specialist

But agree

Quote from: pjrocksmb on January 03, 2023, 06:47:32 PM
Someone might sign him for a low ball offer if they have injuries or need a specialist

But agree

I bet he ends up back in Tiger Town for one last "home" grey cup. With the possibility of BLM signing there. He would be a good weapon for him.

BC releases Purifoy, he had an off season bonus coming like Banks did...

Quote from: theaardvark on January 04, 2023, 06:07:55 PM
BC releases Purifoy, he had an off season bonus coming like Banks did...

Hah, watch the Riders go after him, "all forgiven, we love you!".

Quote from: theaardvark on January 04, 2023, 06:07:55 PM
BC releases Purifoy, he had an off season bonus coming like Banks did...

He'll resurface though. He's still got gas in the tank. I'd even consider him as a Bomber if we can't re-sign Darby, he might be a could candidate at SAM and is very versatile. OTOH his SMS won't be low but he's a player.

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 04, 2023, 07:06:45 PM
He'll resurface though. He's still got gas in the tank. I'd even consider him as a Bomber if we can't re-sign Darby, he might be a could candidate at SAM and is very versatile. OTOH his SMS won't be low but he's a player.

Purifoy is a baller.  Very versatile.  Look good as a DB in blue & gold; no need to relegate him to SAM.  He's been pretty tame off-field for a quite a while compared to all the clown DBs SSK has/had.  He's been superb for both SSK and BC.

I think he'll command top dollar, and thus be out of our range, unless he wants to take a pay cut to reach the GC... I bet this means Sayles got "promoted" in BC.  Maybe only Lee (and maybe Peters?) ahead of him on the DB $$ chart?

Argos sign, Stiggers, Hassell and Moore (sounds like a law firm).

https://3downnation.com/2023/01/04/argonauts-sign-three-including-20-year-old-fcf-standout-qwantez-stiggers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Quote from: ModAdmin on January 05, 2023, 06:28:30 AM
Argos sign, Stiggers, Hassell and Moore (sounds like a law firm).

I thought Hassell could have been something here.  I'm a bit sad we let him go so easily.  I look forward to seeing what he can do in TOR.

BTW for TLDRers, Moore isn't the one you're thinking of.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 05, 2023, 04:39:26 AM
Purifoy is a baller.  Very versatile.  Look good as a DB in blue & gold; no need to relegate him to SAM.  He's been pretty tame off-field for a quite a while compared to all the clown DBs SSK has/had.  He's been superb for both SSK and BC.

I think he'll command top dollar, and thus be out of our range, unless he wants to take a pay cut to reach the GC... I bet this means Sayles got "promoted" in BC.  Maybe only Lee (and maybe Peters?) ahead of him on the DB $$ chart?

Our secondary looks pretty good with everyone coming back. SAM is only a question due to potential free agency. Purifoy can certainly play other positions if and when necessary but that does come with an SMS cost.

Free agency is dynamic. Depending on what we spend on retaining our own free agents and who is left to add as possible replacements is a time sensitive issue. Need versus cost is not something we can really address until free agency hits the fan.

Purifoy as an example could sign somewhere tomorrow as a free agent. The team may already know if Darby and / or Maston are coming back.

That said, it's always worth a phone call to an agent to get some perspective. If we feel we will have a need and he's a fit from a personality and SMS point of view, then why not. OTOH if we know Darby is re-signing, then there is less need etc.

I wouldn't expect him to be a free agent for a long time. Edmonton comes to mind.

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I wonder if Andrew Harris re-signs somewhere or will he finally hang it up?

Quote from: ichabod_crane on January 07, 2023, 12:49:18 AM
I wonder if Andrew Harris re-signs somewhere or will he finally hang it up?

If he?s smart , he would. Retire a champion. He was hurt more than he played this year and it?s only going to be worse next year. Hang em up

Quote from: ichabod_crane on January 07, 2023, 12:49:18 AM
I wonder if Andrew Harris re-signs somewhere or will he finally hang it up?

He played a huge role in turning around their locker room last season and stayed with the team after his "season ending" torn pectoral injury.    He could have come back to his home city but he chose to help influence the team in a positive fashion and was instrumental in their success later in the season.    That being said, he saw his role with his new team as "coaching" opportunity so he may consider retiring now.    I would love to see him back with us as a RB coach albeit that means our current RB coach would be displaced.    As for playing another season I think it would be wise now for him to retire after achieving all those Grey Cups and being instrumental in everyone of them.   

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What a joke, Montreal multi-millionaire and billionaires should be ashamed of themselves! Does this city care about the Als or not? Make up your friggin mind!

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Edmonton Elks sign former B.C. Lions? defensive back Loucheiz Purifoy

Quote from: ModAdmin on January 08, 2023, 02:28:30 AM
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Edmonton Elks sign former B.C. Lions? defensive back Loucheiz Purifoy

B in BC called it.  It's a good play for EDM.  Can they get enough talent piled up to be better than garbage in 2023??

Bengals are working out several CFL players. Where does their connection or interest come from?

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 08, 2023, 06:41:02 PM
Bengals are working out several CFL players. Where does their connection or interest come from?

Bengals head coach Zac Taylor was on the Bombers PR for a year.  But honestly, the number of NFL teams working out CFL players is so large that any competent scouting staff can be presumed to have CFL players as one source of talent to monitor. 

I looked at the Bengals front office roster, and no other names jumped out at me, but it does appear they might have a nepotism issue at the management level...

https://www.bengals.com/team/front-office-roster/

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 07, 2023, 10:11:31 PM
What a joke, Montreal multi-millionaire and billionaires should be ashamed of themselves! Does this city care about the Als or not? Make up your friggin mind!

They can?t, they?re too busy blowing those stupid horns!!!!

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 08, 2023, 06:41:02 PM
Bengals are working out several CFL players. Where does their connection or interest come from?

There's a handful of teams that always host CFL players - Bengals and Giants come to mind immediately, but there are a couple of others too.

Players are eligible to sign NFL deals day IIRC. Whether any are ready to do so or are continuing workouts is a TBD. IMO Rourke and Schoen are the most likely to NFL players in 2023.

A few others might get TC offers but whether they can stick IDK.

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 09, 2023, 05:22:38 PM
Players are eligible to sign NFL deals day IIRC. Whether any are ready to do so or are continuing workouts is a TBD. IMO Rourke and Schoen are the most likely to NFL players in 2023.

A few others might get TC offers but whether they can stick IDK.

Rourke is already receiving offers of guaranteed money, I don't see any teams doing the same for Schoen, he will have to fight his way onto an NFL team.  Chance he is a Bomber this year are still 50/50 IMO, what he wants to do is up to him.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/cfl/article/former-argonauts-cornerback-jamal-peters-signs-futures-contract-with-falcons/

https://3downnation.com/2023/01/10/b-c-lions-sign-three-including-qb-vad-lee/

Ottawa Redblacks re-sign quarterback Jeremiah Masoli through 2024 - 3DownNation
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The Ottawa Redblacks have signed franchise quarterback Jeremiah Masoli to a contract extension through 2024. His contract was scheduled to expire following the 2023 season. ?Having consistency at the quarterback position is a key piece to have success as a CFL team, so we?re very happy to be able to keep Jeremiah Masoli in red [?]

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Ottawa Redblacks re-sign quarterback Jeremiah Masoli through 2024 - 3DownNation
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The Ottawa Redblacks have signed franchise quarterback Jeremiah Masoli to a contract extension through 2024. His contract was scheduled to expire following the 2023 season. ?Having consistency at the quarterback position is a key piece to have success as a CFL team, so we?re very happy to be able to keep Jeremiah Masoli in red [?]

Good for them hopefully he can stay healthy for once?

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INSTANT ANALYSIS: @TSNDaveNaylor on the Hamilton Tiger-Cats signing quarterback Bo Levi Mitchell a three-year contract on Monday - http://tsn.ca/video/~2615492

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INSTANT ANALYSIS: @TSNDaveNaylor on the Hamilton Tiger-Cats signing quarterback Bo Levi Mitchell a three-year contract on Monday - http://tsn.ca/video/~2615492

Given that the Cats now have the longest GC drought on record I can see this unfolding in light of the Grey Cup being played in Hamilton this year.    Given his pedigree he likely could have made more on the market however his main concern was that he wanted to play for a team that was legitimately going out to win the Cup and Hamilton fit the bill for him.    3 years at 500K per season is fair dinkum considering his age and history of recent injuries.    He may yet have enough juice to get it done for them.

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FYI, the @Wpg_BlueBombers host Bo and the @Ticats in Week 1 -- June 9th at IG Field.

lol if I am a TiCat fan I am not sure on this one. Yikes.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 24, 2023, 09:53:41 PM
lol if I am a TiCat fan I am not sure on this one. Yikes.

It's a big gamble.  It may pay off, or it may blow up in their face.  But I like the guts for taking the gamble.  HAM had to do something.  Evans wasn't getting them a GC.

SSK may be rolling the dice this year too, and if TOR loses MBT and keeps Kelly, that's a huge gamble.  Lots of gambling going on in 2023!!

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 25, 2023, 01:51:35 AM
It's a big gamble.  It may pay off, or it may blow up in their face.  But I like the guts for taking the gamble.  HAM had to do something. Evans wasn't getting them a GC.

SSK may be rolling the dice this year too, and if TOR loses MBT and keeps Kelly, that's a huge gamble.  Lots of gambling going on in 2023!!

That's the only thing that matters. They needed a QB to win. Whether this works or not, whether he's overpaid or not, doesn't matter. Because they weren't going to win anyway if they did nothing. Take the shot that Bo has continued to get healthier.

Quote from: Jesse on January 25, 2023, 12:01:16 PM
That's the only thing that matters. They needed a QB to win. Whether this works or not, whether he's overpaid or not, doesn't matter. Because they weren't going to win anyway if they did nothing. Take the shot that Bo has continued to get healthier.

Yup I agree with both Tecno and Jesse. It is a gamble they need to do something of this level to give there fans hope. BLM does that but his recent record is unpleasant. He will need a tremendous supporting cast to say the least to be successful.

Fajardo No
Evans hard No
Kelly likely No

Not to many other viable options out there!

Bombers gambled with Buck Pierce and he took them to the Grey Cup.
Bombers gambled with Zach Collaros and he...well, you know.

Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 25, 2023, 02:17:40 PM
Bombers gambled with Buck Pierce and he took them to the Grey Cup.
Bombers gambled with Zach Collaros and he...well, you know.

True

Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 25, 2023, 02:17:40 PM
Bombers gambled with Buck Pierce and he took them to the Grey Cup.
Bombers gambled with Zach Collaros and he...well, you know.

true that. That was a win win for both the bombers and Zach that came out of a desperation move.

Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 25, 2023, 02:17:40 PM
Bombers gambled with Buck Pierce and he took them to the Grey Cup.
Bombers gambled with Zach Collaros and he...well, you know.

I agree that it is a calculated but worthwhile risk for the Cats, but disagree on the comparison to Collaros.

They didn't trade for Collaros until Nichols went down, and gave up very little for him.  Not really a gamble.  I guess you could say that the gamble came when they chose to move on from a recovered Nichols and ride exclusively with Collaros.  But the team already had significant evidence of what Zach could do (and a Grey Cup win in the bank) so it was a limited risk I think.

I guess I wonder if Bo can really regain his form.  I tend to think Evans is a quality QB who just had a really bad run of INTs and untimely fumbles from pushing too hard.  Personally, I would have stuck with Evans, but it realm is an exercise in crystal ball gazing.

Quote from: the paw on January 25, 2023, 05:17:24 PM
I agree that it is a calculated but worthwhile risk for the Cats, but disagree on the comparison to Collaros.

They didn't trade for Collaros until Nichols went down, and gave up very little for him.  Not really a gamble.  I guess you could say that the gamble came when they chose to move on from a recovered Nichols and ride exclusively with Collaros.  But the team already had significant evidence of what Zach could do (and a Grey Cup win in the bank) so it was a limited risk I think.

I guess I wonder if Bo can really regain his form.  I tend to think Evans is a quality QB who just had a really bad run of INTs and untimely fumbles from pushing too hard.  Personally, I would have stuck with Evans, but it realm is an exercise in crystal ball gazing.

I agree with the TiCats to move on from Evans. I think flakey is a good word to describe Evans. Crazily inconsistent.

Quote from: jayrock on January 25, 2023, 04:30:32 PM
true that. That was a win win for both the bombers and Zach that came out of a desperation move.

Hey jayrock, long time no see.

Quote from: the paw on January 25, 2023, 05:17:24 PM
I guess I wonder if Bo can really regain his form.  I tend to think Evans is a quality QB who just had a really bad run of INTs and untimely fumbles from pushing too hard.  Personally, I would have stuck with Evans, but it realm is an exercise in crystal ball gazing.

Evans' problem is between his ears.  He's a bit of a head case.  All that talk about his psych help in the season and he then produces that amazing game, but then instantly goes back to the cellar the game(s) after.  He's over-thinking it and might not have the right disposition for football.

Evans also needs a league-best OL and tons of time because he always wants to take the deep shot.  He gets flustered too easily when the OL won't give him 3.5+ sec.  LOL

But he has a great arm and a quick release and is decent at making reads (sometimes).  He could be really good, but my gut tells me he won't achieve it and will instead keep going down in a head case spiral.  But the CFL needs him because there are not enough "non-crap" QBs to go around.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 25, 2023, 11:14:27 PM
Hey jayrock, long time no see.

I have been around just not posting much, it is nice to participate again. Took some time off from posting here for a while.

https://3downnation.com/2023/01/25/defensive-backs-coach-alex-suber-leaves-ottawa-redblacks-for-u-s-college-job/

Quote from: pjrocksmb on January 26, 2023, 03:46:20 PM
https://3downnation.com/2023/01/25/defensive-backs-coach-alex-suber-leaves-ottawa-redblacks-for-u-s-college-job/

Good for Suber.  It's funny, some of the guys you think will be future coaches just disappear, and some you never expect become life-long coaches.  Suber seems to have his bleep together, good for him, and best of luck.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 27, 2023, 04:33:59 AM
Good for Suber.  It's funny, some of the guys you think will be future coaches just disappear, and some you never expect become life-long coaches.  Suber seems to have his bleep together, good for him, and best of luck.

Last of the 5'-6" DB's, he was great with the ankle tackles.

Quote from: jayrock on January 26, 2023, 03:42:48 PM
I have been around just not posting much, it is nice to participate again. Took some time off from posting here for a while.

Ha, sound like me over on the Riderfans forum  ;D ;D  Perennial lurker.  But you are one-up on me, as I haven't even made an account there!  :D

Now, I wonder whatever happened to Catfan.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 27, 2023, 04:55:40 PM
Last of the 5'-6" DB's, he was great with the ankle tackles.

The way that he would consistently shut down SJ Green, who was a full 8" taller than him, was absolutely incredible.

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The Saskatchewan Roughriders have released American defensive lineman A.C. Leonard.

The Club wishes to thank A.C. for his contributions to the team over his five seasons in Green and White.

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The Saskatchewan Roughriders have released American defensive lineman A.C. Leonard.

The Club wishes to thank A.C. for his contributions to the team over his five seasons in Green and White.

Did the Riders get tired of him, or was his contract just much for them to handle going forward. 

Quote from: Pigskin on January 31, 2023, 08:46:41 PM
Did the Riders get tired of him, or was his contract just much for them to handle going forward. 

he would look good in blue and gold! ;D

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 31, 2023, 09:03:09 PM
he would look good in blue and gold! ;D

Agree but, $$$

https://3downnation.com/2023/01/31/saskatchewan-roughriders-release-dl-a-c-leonard/

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 31, 2023, 09:03:09 PM
he would look good in blue and gold! ;D

Too late, Jones already snabbed him.

https://3downnation.com/2023/01/31/former-riders-dl-a-c-leonard-agrees-to-terms-with-edmonton-elks/

https://3downnation.com/2023/01/31/ottawa-redblacks-sign-db-money-hunter-to-one-year-contract-extension/

Quote from: Pigskin on January 31, 2023, 08:46:41 PM
Did the Riders get tired of him, or was his contract just much for them to handle going forward. 

He had a $40K bonus due on Feb 1 and a contract that would have made him the highest paid defensive player in the league. Probably took somewhat of a cut to immediately sign in Edmonton.

The good news there is that it just used up some SMS space to chance other free agents by the Elks.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Too late, Jones already snabbed him.

https://3downnation.com/2023/01/31/former-riders-dl-a-c-leonard-agrees-to-terms-with-edmonton-elks/

Leonard is the 18th d-lineman added to the roster.  Jones only has 11 OL signed, even though you need to start 5 of those.  He's like a kid in a candy store when it comes to defensive players.

Jones just signs every football player around/available and then sees who comes out in the mix. When he was in Sask he even stalked a practice practice squad and had them housed in Regina in case of injuries until the league found out about it.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on January 31, 2023, 09:03:09 PM
he would look good in blue and gold! ;D

Nah.

Quote from: the paw on January 31, 2023, 10:43:01 PM
Leonard is the 18th d-lineman added to the roster.  Jones only has 11 OL signed, even though you need to start 5 of those.  He's like a kid in a candy store when it comes to defensive players.

More like a bull in a china shop. He can't manage a roster for ****.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2023, 04:39:05 PM
Nah.

More like a bull in a china shop. He can't manage a roster for ****.

Agree. Isn't AC the guy that wouldn't do the PED test last season and was suspended.

Quote from: Pigskin on February 01, 2023, 05:28:08 PM
Agree. Isn't AC the guy that wouldn't do the PED test last season and was suspended.

September 2021. He was suspended for two games for being unable to provide a sample for testing, and was suspended an additional game for verbal abuse directed at testing officials.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 01, 2023, 07:28:14 PM
September 2021. He was suspended for two games for being unable to provide a sample for testing, and was suspended an additional game for verbal abuse directed at testing officials.

Yup, that won't fly with MOS.

Quote from: Pigskin on February 01, 2023, 07:53:45 PM

Yup, that won't fly with MOS.

Why? Does MOS only put up with failed tests?

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 01, 2023, 07:58:18 PM
Why? Does MOS only put up with failed tests?

I am sure he wasn't happy with AH failing his test. However AH didn't refuse to take the test, or verbally abuse the testing official.

Argos sign Gittens Jr. to a 3 year deal.


BMT will play for another season.

It would be interesting to hearing what he signed for. $$$

Quote from: Pigskin on February 03, 2023, 10:25:12 PM
Argos sign Gittens Jr. to a 3 year deal.

BMT will play for another season.

All good moves by TOR.  MBT probably played the "hmm maybe I'll retire" card in order to get the $$ upped big time.  Smart guy.  Maybe it'll be another WPG/TOR GC in 2023 ... IN THE HAMMER!  That should aid us in our revenge.

And if they locked Gittens into 3yr, it'll look a little weak when we get Demski on a 1yr.  Oh well, I'd be happy with whatever we can get when it comes to Demski.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/03/the-gittens-is-good-argos-re-sign-cfl-all-star-receiver-kurleigh-gittens-jr/

Quote from: pjrocksmb on February 03, 2023, 11:28:00 PM
https://3downnation.com/2023/02/03/the-gittens-is-good-argos-re-sign-cfl-all-star-receiver-kurleigh-gittens-jr/

Wonder what he got. Demski should be about $25,000-$30,000 less or so.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 04, 2023, 12:45:17 AM
Wonder what he got. Demski should be about $25,000-$30,000 less or so.

He got 200, 210, 215.

55 guaranteed in his final year.

Quote from: Jesse on February 04, 2023, 02:10:10 AM
He got 200, 210, 215.

55 guaranteed in his final year.

Close...

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Gittens deal will pay him 200k in 2023, 210k in 2024, 215k in 2025. It includes a 55k signing bonus & a 50k guarantee in 2025. He is now the 2nd highest paid receiver in #CFL for 2023, behind Whitehead (205k), for now. Demski, Lawler, Lewis, still to come. #Argos
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I guess the price just got set for Demski...  $200k looks about right...

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Gittens deal will pay him 200k in 2023, 210k in 2024, 215k in 2025. It includes a 55k signing bonus & a 50k guarantee in 2025. He is now the 2nd highest paid receiver in #CFL for 2023, behind Whitehead (205k), for now. Demski, Lawler, Lewis, still to come. #Argos
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I guess the price just got set for Demski...  $200k looks about right...

I think those are fair numbers for Demski, especially if it convinces him to sign for 3 years.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/03/toronto-argonauts-re-sign-canadian-safety-royce-metchie/

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 04, 2023, 03:44:31 PM
I think those are fair numbers for Demski, especially if it convinces him to sign for 3 years.

Honestly, I don?t think Demski has earned that contract.

I'd do Demski at 185k then.

I think a 3 year deal. $200K per.

Quote from: Jesse on February 04, 2023, 05:48:42 PM
Honestly, I don?t think Demski has earned that contract.

Then I think you would be out of touch with where the market is going.  I see Gittens and Demski as very comparable in terms of their value as impact Canadians.

I would rather have Demski or Gittens more than Whitehead, and I would say that even if the ratio wasn't a factor.

We might get a bit of a hometown discount, but if we aren't close to that number, he'll be somewhere else this year.

Quote from: Jesse on February 04, 2023, 05:48:42 PM
Honestly, I don?t think Demski has earned that contract.

Disagree

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 04, 2023, 06:25:11 PM
I'd do Demski at 185k then.

That would be a good deal for us

Quote from: Pigskin on February 04, 2023, 06:59:13 PM
I think a 3 year deal. $200K per.

Agree that's fair.  I would try to limit guaranteed $.

Argos Retain Boris Bede

https://www.argonauts.ca/2023/02/04/boatmen-keep-the-signings-coming-retain-k-boris-bede/

https://www.cfl.ca/2023/02/04/argos-extend-wynton-mcmanis-through-23/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/riders-resign-disruptive-pass-rusher-pete-robertson-1.6737508

Quote from: the paw on February 04, 2023, 07:41:48 PM
Then I think you would be out of touch with where the market is going.  I see Gittens and Demski as very comparable in terms of their value as impact Canadians.

I would rather have Demski or Gittens more than Whitehead, and I would say that even if the ratio wasn't a factor.

We might get a bit of a hometown discount, but if we aren't close to that number, he'll be somewhere else this year.

Gittens is 25 coming off a 1100 yard season. He is being paid on the potential that he continues to get better.

Demski is 29, never had a 1000 yard season, never played 18 games.

I love Demski and still think we sign him, but I don't think Gittens is a comparable. It's a ceiling that Demski hasn't hit.

Quote from: Jesse on February 04, 2023, 11:28:07 PM
Gittens is 25 coming off a 1100 yard season. He is being paid on the potential that he continues to get better.

Demski is 29, never had a 1000 yard season, never played 18 games.

I love Demski and still think we sign him, but I don't think Gittens is a comparable. It's a ceiling that Demski hasn't hit.

You are not wrong about the positive aspects of Gittens.  But Demski had twice as many TDs, and way more value as a rusher, factors that I think are more important than the magic 1000 yd mark.  And while he has never played 18 games, he's played 17 in three different years.

And while 25 is better than 29 over the long haul, the way players move there really is no long haul.  I don't think age will be a factor over the next 3 years.   If I'm being 100% honest, if I am a CFL GM in any city but Winnipeg, I probably pick Gittens over Demski.  But in terms of setting the market, I think the difference is statistically negligible.

Quote from: the paw on February 05, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
You are not wrong about the positive aspects of Gittens.  But Demski had twice as many TDs, and way more value as a rusher, factors that I think are more important than the magic 1000 yd mark.  And while he has never played 18 games, he's played 17 in three different years.

And while 25 is better than 29 over the long haul, the way players move there really is no long haul.  I don't think age will be a factor over the next 3 years.   If I'm being 100% honest, if I am a CFL GM in any city but Winnipeg, I probably pick Gittens over Demski.  But in terms of setting the market, I think the difference is statistically negligible.

Both great players Demski more versatile

Quote from: the paw on February 05, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
You are not wrong about the positive aspects of Gittens.  But Demski had twice as many TDs, and way more value as a rusher, factors that I think are more important than the magic 1000 yd mark.  And while he has never played 18 games, he's played 17 in three different years.

And while 25 is better than 29 over the long haul, the way players move there really is no long haul.  I don't think age will be a factor over the next 3 years.   If I'm being 100% honest, if I am a CFL GM in any city but Winnipeg, I probably pick Gittens over Demski.  But in terms of setting the market, I think the difference is statistically negligible.

People bring up Demski's rushing ability...he doesn't really do that anymore. Maybe once or twice a game a reverse or something is thrown in. But as his receiving totals go up, the rushing goes down. I don't think it's really considered in negotiations.

Anyway, I think Walters pays what we need to do keep Demski...I don't think we reasonably need to get to 200 to do it.

Quote from: the paw on February 04, 2023, 07:41:48 PM
Then I think you would be out of touch with where the market is going.  I see Gittens and Demski as very comparable in terms of their value as impact Canadians.

I would rather have Demski or Gittens more than Whitehead, and I would say that even if the ratio wasn't a factor.

Me too.  Whitehead can't catch, and gets, dinged up a lot being so tiny.

If ratio wasn't a factor, I'd take Lawler, then Lewis, then Demski.  Demski is one of the best NAT SBs in a generation.  He's so good you could forget he's a NAT.

Quote from: Jesse on February 04, 2023, 11:28:07 PM
Gittens is 25 coming off a 1100 yard season. He is being paid on the potential that he continues to get better.

Demski is 29, never had a 1000 yard season, never played 18 games.

I love Demski and still think we sign him, but I don't think Gittens is a comparable. It's a ceiling that Demski hasn't hit.

Yards don't mean squat.  Gittens doesn't blow open games like Demski does.  Gittens did diddly squat in the GC.  Look at what Demski has accomplished in post-season games since 2019.  Gittens is more of a grunt clutch catcher in the middle.  He's great at that, but it's for getting 2nd down conversions, not for huge explosions.

And Demski is the best slot at also threatening sweeps and even gut-runs.  There's very few plays in the book Demski can't run.

I could see Demski getting close to $200k/year on a 3-year.  If that's where the bar is set, and at worst it's $30 more than we were thinking, then you do it.  It will be a sad day if we have to watch him excel in another team's jersey.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 05, 2023, 04:28:07 AM
Me too.  Whitehead can't catch, and gets, dinged up a lot being so tiny.

If ratio wasn't a factor, I'd take Lawler, then Lewis, then Demski.  Demski is one of the best NAT SBs in a generation.  He's so good you could forget he's a NAT.

Yards don't mean squat.  Gittens doesn't blow open games like Demski does.  Gittens did diddly squat in the GC.  Look at what Demski has accomplished in post-season games since 2019.  Gittens is more of a grunt clutch catcher in the middle.  He's great at that, but it's for getting 2nd down conversions, not for huge explosions.

And Demski is the best slot at also threatening sweeps and even gut-runs.  There's very few plays in the book Demski can't run.

I could see Demski getting close to $200k/year on a 3-year.  If that's where the bar is set, and at worst it's $30 more than we were thinking, then you do it.  It will be a sad day if we have to watch him excel in another team's jersey.

I haven't agreed with yours and others harsh criticisms of Whitehead in and past nor do I now (hands).  Yes there are many receivers that can catch better with their hands but he gets it done.  Yes he is small and can get hurt but he has also produced routinely.  That said he isn't as desirable as the name below that's for sure.

While I love Demski, Gittens is very good and can have a big impact on games as well.

I do agree if Demski is having a big game he can be a huge x factor.

Both are great and worth the asking price.

I too would love to see Lawyer and Lewis but the asking price will be too high likely with many interested.

Ottawa Re-sign Nick Arbuckle to a one-year extension...

https://www.ottawaredblacks.com/2023/02/05/redblacks-re-sign-american-quarterback-nick-arbuckle/

Montreal, Hamilton, and Sask, really haven't sign many of there FAs. A couple of very good DLs, and a number of good WRs. 

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We have re-signed WR DaVaris Daniels. (@SincerelyToot)

Maybe if we can lock down a top notch interior DL we could have one amazing front seven!

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/05/better-than-chocolate-chips-argos-re-sign-db-dashaun-amos/

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 05, 2023, 09:47:49 PM
Maybe if we can lock down a top notch interior DL we could have one amazing front seven!

Need to shore up run stoppage. Is stove a FA in Toronto/BC? That is if he recovered from his injury.

Quote from: ModAdmin on February 05, 2023, 04:26:15 PM
Ottawa Re-sign Nick Arbuckle to a one-year extension...

Good move by OTT.  A very respectable QB as #2, though I'm really hoping Masoli will play a full year for once.  Do they keep Caleb as a solid #3 for short yardage?  That would be a very nice QB room indeed.  Maybe even 2nd best in the league?

Sask just resigned Lanier ...at 250k! Certainly no home town discounts there.
Also looks like they are making big offers to Harris and. Lewis or Lawler.. Which would be nuts if they don:t fix their online.

Eugene Lewis was one of the best last year, is he going to get that recognition this year?

How would he look in Blue and Gold?

Can we afford him? 

Would he be an upgrade on Rasheed Bailey?  Would Lewis' age and potential drop in production still be better than Bailey's upward potential?

When are we assured Schoen is back for 2023?  Will we have time to make other arrangements before then?

Quote from: theaardvark on February 06, 2023, 03:46:16 PM
Eugene Lewis was one of the best last year, is he going to get that recognition this year?

How would he look in Blue and Gold?

Can we afford him? 

Would he be an upgrade on Rasheed Bailey?  Would Lewis' age and potential drop in production still be better than Bailey's upward potential?

When are we assured Schoen is back for 2023?  Will we have time to make other arrangements before then?

I'm under the impression that the NFL option window closes on the 8th. However at worst it closes when free agency opens on the 13th. Schoen is not a free agent after that time.

Lewis might be affordable. We could give him the money we used on Ellingson + whatever Bailey was making above an ELC. Could end up using a receiver on an ELC as the 4th import starter. Someone like Agudosi or Harrison or a rookie.

Quote from: theaardvark on February 06, 2023, 03:46:16 PM
Eugene Lewis was one of the best last year, is he going to get that recognition this year?

How would he look in Blue and Gold?

Can we afford him? 

Would he be an upgrade on Rasheed Bailey?  Would Lewis' age and potential drop in production still be better than Bailey's upward potential?

When are we assured Schoen is back for 2023?  Will we have time to make other arrangements before then?

Lewis might end up a Rider. He's looking to get paid and probably won't take a team-friendly deal to go to a contender.

The Riders are working hard to convince Harris to sign, and need Lewis or Lawler to agree to sign with him. They a QB to woo the receiver and a receiver to woo the QB.

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 06, 2023, 04:08:15 PM
I'm under the impression that the NFL option window closes on the 8th. However at worst it closes when free agency opens on the 13th. Schoen is not a free agent after that time.

Lewis might be affordable. We could give him the money we used on Ellingson + whatever Bailey was making above an ELC. Could end up using a receiver on an ELC as the 4th import starter. Someone like Agudosi or Harrison or a rookie.

The fly in the ointment is the extra money we had to pay Demski, likely part of reason we may not sign Bailey. rather than Lewis or Lawler maybe we could target Walker or Dunbar or Wienike

Quote from: Pete on February 06, 2023, 05:04:55 PM
The fly in the ointment is the extra money we had to pay Demski, likely part of reason we may not sign Bailey. rather than Lewis or Lawler maybe we could target Walker or Dunbar or Wienike

Not exactly. Ellingson probably was about $100K above an ELC deal. Bailey might have been $25K-$30K above an ELC. If we use someone like Agudosi to replace Ellingson he's on an ELC. So there may be close to $130K extra to pay Lewis $200K, if we don't re-sign Bailey or Ellingson.

I have some assumption that signing Eli instead of Couture may have reduced our hit be $75K-$100K which went to Demski.

Just speculation of course. Not every receiver is going to get $225K-$250K this year.

Lewis may consider money 1st but the Riders might not land Harris, so that might not be anybody's choice. 

There are still about 22 receivers available and it's 1st come 1st served in the SMS pool of cash. Lawler is another target in Regina, so if they sign him, that may rule out Lewis as an example.

Demski got a raise, but I'm guessing Ellingson is not being resigned.  Sshoen is still a deal, although I can see extending him with a raise with no NFL deal.

If Schoen comes back, Bailey is a little more important than Lewis would be, guessing he'd be more affordable and fills the role better.

Not sure where our overall SMS sits, we've re-signed a lot of players, but not many got big raises.

I don't think there will be an issue with our Rec corps, between what we have on the field, what we have in the pipe, and what we have yet to scout, we should be fine.

I think Walters has already made his "big splash" by re-signing most of his core players, it's not really necessary for him to go after a big fish outside his own pond when he's already put together the top team in the CFL.

Hamilton: Colin Kelly Suspended for 2 games after testing positive for not one but two banned substances.

First time: 2 games.
Second time: 9 games.
Third time: 1 year
Fourth time: Lifetime.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/06/roughriders-re-sign-american-defensive-lineman-anthony-lanier/

Quote from: Pete on February 06, 2023, 02:06:55 PM
Sask just resigned Lanier ...at 250k! Certainly no home town discounts there.
Also looks like they are making big offers to Harris and. Lewis or Lawler.. Which would be nuts if they don:t fix their online.

Lanier:  2021 and 2022,  21 games, 32 DT, 9 Sacks, 2 FF.  1 year, $250K.

Sayles:  2022. 18 games. 36 DT, 6 Sacks, 2 FF. $$$ ??

Sayles hasn't missed a game in two years. Lanier played 10 games in 2021, and only 11 in 2022.  Can he stay healthy?

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/06/hamilton-tiger-cats-re-sign-quarterback-matthew-shiltz/

This "tampering window" certainly is having the desired effect...

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/06/saskatchewan-roughriders-make-strong-offer-to-veteran-qb-trevor-harris/

https://www.tsn.ca/trevor-harris-expected-to-sign-saskatchewan-roughriders-cfl-free-agency-1.1915871

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/06/saskatchewan-roughriders-sign-ball-state-standout-christian-albright/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/06/saskatchewan-roughriders-hire-former-cfl-qb-drew-tate-as-receivers-coach/

Quote from: Pete on February 06, 2023, 02:06:55 PM
Sask just resigned Lanier ...at 250k! Certainly no home town discounts there.

I listened to way too much Rider Radio last season... I'm not kidding when I said Lanier was like Jesus to them.  He was going to save them all from doom.  Him and Clarke and maybe 1 other guy is all they wanted to keep and everyone else should hit the road.

So I'm not too surprised they opened the wallet for Lanier.  I bet they had no choice.  Fans would go mental if they let one of their few bright spots leave in FA.

However, ignoring SSK fan pressure, $250k for Lanier is pretty crazy.  More money than Willie, Jeffcoat, or Stove or Nevis?  Heck, even a league-best NAT DT would have trouble earning $250k.

This could cost SSK in terms of money for other spots.  I hope for their sake their IMP scouts have been busy and successful.  Now let me mosey over to the Rider forum to see if they like this move or not...

Quote from: theaardvark on February 06, 2023, 03:46:16 PM
Eugene Lewis was one of the best last year, is he going to get that recognition this year?

Can we afford him? 

With the Demski signing there is no way we afford Lewis, who will be $225-$250 for sure.

Quote from: theaardvark on February 06, 2023, 05:47:14 PM
Not sure where our overall SMS sits, we've re-signed a lot of players, but not many got big raises.

We've been bumping up enough returning players that we've gotta make the savings somewhere.  We'll have to let at least 1-2 good starters go and start some fresh ELCs.  There might be nothing left to bump up Bailey, and so he might walk to get a decent chunk more elsewhere.  Bailey is 2x GC ring and thus could easily command something closer to what he thinks he's worth.  But, he might stay because he likes it here, if we give him the same offer as last year.

Letting Couture walk also helps with the SMS.  Eli/Gray/Dobson/Ko-man are costing a fraction of Couture.

Who else walks?

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 06, 2023, 05:59:03 PM
I think Walters has already made his "big splash" by re-signing most of his core players, it's not really necessary for him to go after a big fish outside his own pond when he's already put together the top team in the CFL.

Agreed.  I think the biggest thing we do in FA is sign another Ellingson-esque player.  Older guy who we like who can't command a big $$ anymore, or maybe some discard younger guy who we saw promise in that nobody else did (Mafia is good at that).  Hey, could be actually Ellingson, if he'll do it cheap enough.

Quote from: Pigskin on February 06, 2023, 09:14:26 PM
Lanier:  2021 and 2022,  21 games, 32 DT, 9 Sacks, 2 FF.  1 year, $250K.
Sayles:  2022. 18 games. 36 DT, 6 Sacks, 2 FF. $$$ ??

Sayles hasn't missed a game in two years. Lanier played 10 games in 2021, and only 11 in 2022.  Can he stay healthy?

Haha, great stats showing how nuts the $250k is.  I bet we're paying Sayles half that amount.  We never budget big $$ for DT.  When they get too good and pricey we let them walk.  I was worried after Nevis and Stove, and we certainly aren't as strong, but we're doing ok.  Sayles keeps getting better.

If we go with some green ELCs at DT again, then I'll start being concerned again.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 07, 2023, 05:04:27 AM
Haha, great stats showing how nuts the $250k is.  I bet we're paying Sayles half that amount.  We never budget big $$ for DT.  When they get too good and pricey we let them walk.  I was worried after Nevis and Stove, and we certainly aren't as strong, but we're doing ok.  Sayles keeps getting better.

If we go with some green ELCs at DT again, then I'll start being concerned again.

Sayles is coming off an ELC as a 2 year player.  I'm not sure he will be highly sought after by many teams or that he'll get anything like Lanier. There is a large group of DL still out there as potential free agents. Teams will look to re-sign there own 1st.

I'm hoping we can come to terms with him before free agency. Fingers crossed we retain him.

Wow, I didn't realize that Harris is 36.
I hope he likes running for his life.

Riders need an Oline plain and simple. Does not matter who the QB is, you put them behind the cheese cloth they call an oline and it is 6 - 12 again.

John Hodge
@JohnDHodge
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Saskatchewan Roughriders agree to terms with receiver Jake Wieneke

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/07/saskatchewan-roughriders-agree-to-terms-with-receiver-jake-wieneke/

I wonder if SASK is targeting Mtrl cause they are the only organization more messed up than them right now

Quote from: Pete on February 07, 2023, 04:28:30 PM
I wonder if SASK is targeting Mtrl cause they are the only organization more messed up than them right now

Probably not but Montreal ha sprobably lost Harris and now Wieneke. Lewis reportedly is being sought by the Lions and he wants out of Montreal. Things are not looking good in Montreal.

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 07, 2023, 04:45:09 PM
Probably not but Montreal has lost Harris and now Wieneke. Lewis reportedly is being sought by the Lions and he wants out of Montreal. Things are not looking good in Montreal.

Too bad, their fanbase seemed to be regenerating interest in the Als the last few years.  Hopefully the ownership issues get resolved in a positive manner and they keep the team on track.

Harris is looking for targets.. maybe Ellingson gets a deal in Green and White...

If I were Harris, though, I'd be encouraging them to sign the likes of Couture first... can't hit a WR from your back.

If O'Day plans to drop over $900K on a new QB and two receivers, he might have trouble trying to upgrade the O-line. I can't imagine Couture is going to come cheap.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 07, 2023, 04:55:28 PM
Too bad, their fanbase seemed to be regenerating interest in the Als the last few years.  Hopefully the ownership issues get resolved in a positive manner and they keep the team on track.

I still remain surprised no local business man (French speaking) has stepped and purchased the the team. For all the money in Montreal and as popular a sport as it is in the city!

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 07, 2023, 04:45:09 PM
Probably not but Montreal ha sprobably lost Harris and now Wieneke. Lewis reportedly is being sought by the Lions and he wants out of Montreal. Things are not looking good in Montreal.

Bailey or Wieneke, I am taking Bailey all day long.

Quote from: Pigskin on February 07, 2023, 06:15:42 PM
Bailey or Wieneke, I am taking Bailey all day long.

I dunno.

TD Jake scored a lot of TDs until last year.  Bailey had 9 TDs last year, so they are comparable red zone players.

Weineke has had the higher ceiling in terms of receiving yards per season, but Bailey had consistently trended up.

Bailey has a lower average yards per catch, but a higher proportion of YAC yards. Weineke has better results on deep routes.

Weineke has more length, Bailey is a tenacious blocker.

Pretty close comparison, I think the tie-breaker was probably that Trevor Harris asked for Weineke. 

Quote from: the paw on February 07, 2023, 07:28:03 PM
I dunno.

TD Jake scored a lot of TDs until last year.  Bailey had 9 TDs last year, so they are comparable red zone players.

Weineke has had the higher ceiling in terms of receiving yards per season, but Bailey had consistently trended up.

Bailey has a lower average yards per catch, but a higher proportion of YAC yards. Weineke has better results on deep routes.

Weineke has more length, Bailey is a tenacious blocker.

Pretty close comparison, I think the tie-breaker was probably that Trevor Harris asked for Weineke. 

Jake drop off last year with only 2 TDs. I find RB88 more versatile. I give RB88 the edge for his blocking, YAC, and his 8.3 yard rushing avg.

CFL very slow in updating there FA tracker.

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on February 07, 2023, 06:05:17 PM
I still remain surprised no local business man (French speaking) has stepped and purchased the the team. For all the money in Montreal and as popular a sport as it is in the city!

I thought there were buyers, but that the estate wasn't really interested in selling.  Might just be what the offer price was, but if the estate can get away from the debt/losses that are coming, they should be happy to sell...

Quote from: the paw on February 07, 2023, 07:28:03 PM
I dunno.

TD Jake scored a lot of TDs until last year.  Bailey had 9 TDs last year, so they are comparable red zone players.

Weineke has had the higher ceiling in terms of receiving yards per season, but Bailey had consistently trended up.

Bailey has a lower average yards per catch, but a higher proportion of YAC yards. Weineke has better results on deep routes.

Weineke has more length, Bailey is a tenacious blocker.

Pretty close comparison, I think the tie-breaker was probably that Trevor Harris asked for Weineke. 

I always thought of Wieneke as a slow receiver, he has good heigtht at 6'-4", good hands and runs good routes which is how he got so many TD's 2 years ago, still not a game breaker IMO.

Quote from: Pigskin on February 07, 2023, 08:09:03 PM
Jake drop off last year with only 2 TDs. I find RB88 more versatile. I give RB88 the edge for his blocking, YAC, and his 8.3 yard rushing avg.

I think Bailey fits into this offense better, too.

I'm kind of curious to how BC will look....
I know I'm not the only one that believes Rourke was only as good as he was because of his contract. When Reilly retired the Lions had the money to build an OL and get WR's.
Vernon Adams Jr has potential to make almost $300,000 more than Rourke which is basically the cost of 2 key starting OL. Bryan Burnham retiring helps them keep their WR's intact for 1 more year but RB Butler will probably demand a a hefty raise after having a breakout year.

SSK need an OL...so they will probably overpay for whatever they can get....and probably sacrifice retaining key offensive and defensive players in doing so. If they can keep Morrow and Hickson in their backfield it might be worth the sacrifice. Trevor Harris needs a balanced offence in this stage of his career. Problem is I'm not sure who actually wants to play in the dumpster fire capital of the CFL.

Edmonton Elkimos....Is Chris Jones capable of turning things around in year 2 or will his ego remain to be in the way.

Calgary.....I'm calling it already Winnipeg's toughest opponent in the West.

Toronto, how will the toilet bowl of the league look after stealing a Grey Cup. Is MBT going to be the #1 QB still? or do they gamble with Kelly? Do they re-sign all the key players that contibuted in their Grey Cup Heist? Do Henoc Muamba and Andrew Harris return? Does Harris still think he needs to prove anything to anyone at all?

Hamilton, where does Dane Evans end up? he's not a terrrible QB but with Fajardo and possibly MBT being availble, who's going to Montreal out of those 3. Can't tell me Hamilton actually keeps Evans behind Mitchell. Is Mitchell capable of being the QB he once was pre 2019?  I kinda wanna see the Bombers play Hamilton in the Grey Cup yet again.

Ottawa....terribly mismanaged might be the 2nd or 3rd worst management in the CFL, yet they've managed to re-sign a lot of potential free agents. One has to wonder if Khari Jones and Barron Miles are only there for if Dyce screws up. I felt like the Redblacks were a lot better than their 4-14 record showed. They had a lot of promise with Masoli at QB , resigning Arbuckle is an interesting move must be for an insurance policy....Mayne Lapolice only needed a better supporting cast of coaches.

Montreal...IMO I think  Maas is a mediocre HC and going to be a  downgrade from Maciocia/Jones. We will have to wait and see who the QB in Montreal will be as Montreal has an amazing OL/run game...Kinda feel like Cody Fajita might be best suited for Montreal. They need to re-sign a tonne of players still and with Harris leaving theres potential some players might follow him.

Evans will end up in Montreal

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2023, 05:54:25 PM
If O'Day plans to drop over $900K on a new QB and two receivers, he might have trouble trying to upgrade the O-line. I can't imagine Couture is going to come cheap.

Then he's making the 2019 BC and 2022 SSK mistake... not spending the money on the OL they need to allow good QBs to be effective.

Remember what that D guy said: hit T.Harris once and he'll be messed up for the rest of the game.  SSK is gonna be reeeeaaal fun for him!  <Cody winks>

Quote from: KINGCHARLES on February 07, 2023, 10:02:54 PM
Calgary.....I'm calling it already Winnipeg's toughest opponent in the West.

They might win that spot by default.  Who else could it be?

Quote from: KINGCHARLES on February 07, 2023, 10:02:54 PM
Hamilton, where does Dane Evans end up? he's not a terrrible QB but with Fajardo and possibly MBT being availble, who's going to Montreal out of those 3. Can't tell me Hamilton actually keeps Evans behind Mitchell. Is Mitchell capable of being the QB he once was pre 2019?  I kinda wanna see the Bombers play Hamilton in the Grey Cup yet again.

Dane would be perfect behind BLM.  Bo is going to stumble, I'd wager.  And Dane's headcase brain doesn't let him be #1.  But he is good at being #2 and coming in as relief, even if it's for multiple games.  And BLM can teach up Dane.

If someone signs Evans as their for-sure #1, he will struggle again.  And he's a long ball guy who needs a league top-3 OL.  No city that might sign him will have that: other than HAM.

Yes, OTT wasn't as bad as they seemed in '22, and if Masoli has a full year they should do much better.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/07/dean-of-defence-saskatchewan-roughriders-re-sign-lb-larry-dean/

Jake or Bailey would be amazing but agree with what others have said about Bailey fitting in well, blocking, YAC, rushing etc.  Likely comes down to $.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/07/saskatchewan-roughriders-sign-offensive-tackle-eric-lofton/

Quote from: pjrocksmb on February 08, 2023, 03:19:24 AM
https://3downnation.com/2023/02/07/saskatchewan-roughriders-sign-offensive-tackle-eric-lofton/

Big signing... an A OT off our PR...  that'll shore up the Oline...

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/07/ottawa-redblacks-agree-to-terms-with-veteran-lb-jovan-santos-knox/

Hamilton and Sask. really haven't signed many of there FA's.

Hamilton really struggling with only 5 of there 23 FAs signed.

What's going on in Hamilton?

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/07/saskatchewan-roughriders-agree-to-terms-with-receiver-jake-wieneke/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/08/b-c-lions-extend-contract-of-qb-vernon-adams-jr-through-2024/

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/source-hamilton-tiger-cats-agree-to-terms-with-veteran-linebacker-thurman-1.1916519

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/08/edmonton-elks-agree-to-terms-with-receiver-kyran-moore/

https://www.tsn.ca/quarterback-dominique-davis-agrees-to-contract-with-b-c-lions-1.1916572

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/07/b-c-lions-sign-four-including-canadian-fb-dylan-st-pierre/

Lion's trade Jordan Willams to the Argo's for the 9th overall pick.

Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on February 09, 2023, 04:18:41 AM
Lion's trade Jordan Willams to the Argo's for the 9th overall pick.

Nice move by the Argo's. Williams was very productive. 32 games. 181 DT.

Bit of a surprise...

Farhan Lalji
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Appears that RB James Butler is planning to sign with the #TiCats. Had a breakout season with #BCLions last year, finishing 2nd in @CFL in combined yards (1444) & rushing (1,060). Scored 11 TDs. @CFLonTSN

Quote from: pjrocksmb on February 09, 2023, 02:27:35 AM
https://www.tsn.ca/quarterback-dominique-davis-agrees-to-contract-with-b-c-lions-1.1916572

Looks like BC is planning to start VAJ.  Looks like Dom will be SY and #2.  Then a nobody as dev/#3.  BC won't be winning very many games this year...

Good for Dom maintaining his niche and career long after many would have thought he'd be gone.  He's getting up there in longest-in-league current-QBs list.

Quote from: ModAdmin on February 09, 2023, 04:50:38 AM
Appears that RB James Butler is planning to sign with the #TiCats. Had a breakout season with #BCLions last year, finishing 2nd in @CFL in combined yards (1444) & rushing (1,060). Scored 11 TDs. @CFLonTSN

Good move by the Cats.  It's clear they are taking their GC year more seriously than SSK did.  Don't want to screw it up like O'Day did.  ;D  I think HAM will all hinge on whether BLM revives or slides....

Now, who is BC going to field at RB?  Not many decent ones in-league.  Maybe some ELC IMP gamble.

I think BC will be around 500

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 09, 2023, 05:59:22 AM
Looks like BC is planning to start VAJ.  Looks like Dom will be SY and #2.  Then a nobody as dev/#3.  BC won't be winning very many games this year...

Good for Dom maintaining his niche and career long after many would have thought he'd be gone.  He's getting up there in longest-in-league current-QBs list.

Good move by the Cats.  It's clear they are taking their GC year more seriously than SSK did.  Don't want to screw it up like O'Day did.  ;D  I think HAM will all hinge on whether BLM revives or slides....

Now, who is BC going to field at RB?  Not many decent ones in-league.  Maybe some ELC IMP gamble.

Wes Hill (HAM) and Walter Fletcher (MTL) are good ones. I would not be surprised if they bring back Andrew Harris to BC though.

Quote from: Pigskin on February 09, 2023, 04:28:59 AM
Nice move by the Argo's. Williams was very productive. 32 games. 181 DT.

Williams requested the trade. BC still has Hladik and Lokombo, both Canadians. I'm guessing Sankey and Muamba are both on their radar.

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on February 09, 2023, 12:54:02 PM
Williams requested the trade. BC still has Hladik and Lokombo, both Canadians. I'm guessing Sankey and Muamba are both on their radar.

I don't think they would pursue either.  The reason they gave up Williams is that they had 3 starting quality CDN LBs but only room to start 2.  They also gave up their first rounder to get Adams.  So they are using excess assets to recoup that cost.

Williams was on his entry deal, and either Sankey or Muamba would cost more than that.  Plus a new MLB would put Lokombo or Hladik on the bench.  I think they have made a smart move to convert the asset to a draft pick than can help them replace Cottoy, beef up their OL or address other needs.

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on February 09, 2023, 12:54:02 PM
Williams requested the trade. BC still has Hladik and Lokombo, both Canadians. I'm guessing Sankey and Muamba are both on their radar.

doubt it. whole point of trading Williams is because they have their 2 canadian starters.

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on February 09, 2023, 12:54:02 PM
Williams requested the trade. BC still has Hladik and Lokombo, both Canadians. I'm guessing Sankey and Muamba are both on their radar.

I'll be surprised if Muamba doesn't stay in T.O., he's so entrenched there with family, maybe he'll retire if the Argos don't make him an offer.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 09, 2023, 04:36:27 PM
I'll be surprised if Muamba doesn't stay in T.O., he's so entrenched there with family, maybe he'll retire if the Argos don't make him an offer.

Williams is a very good LB on an ELC and I'd think will be the Argos starting MLB. Muamba is very good but he could be an SMS casualty and / or could be planning to retire?

Cody Fajardo signs with Montreal, more to follow in regards to contract dollars.

https://www.cjme.com/2023/02/09/cody-fajardo-expected-to-sign-with-alouettes-report/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/riders-agree-to-terms-with-defensive-end-stefen-banks/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/original-ottawa-redblack-antoine-pruneau-announces-retirement-after-eight-cfl-seasons/

Sukh Chungh, new 2 year contract with BC Lions.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/sukh-it-up-b-c-lions-re-sign-homegrown-ol-sukh-chungh/

Richie Sindani suspended two games for testing positive for a banned substance.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 09, 2023, 05:59:22 AM
Looks like BC is planning to start VAJ.  Looks like Dom will be SY and #2.  Then a nobody as dev/#3.  BC won't be winning very many games this year...

Good for Dom maintaining his niche and career long after many would have thought he'd be gone.  He's getting up there in longest-in-league current-QBs list.

Good move by the Cats.  It's clear they are taking their GC year more seriously than SSK did.  Don't want to screw it up like O'Day did.  ;D  I think HAM will all hinge on whether BLM revives or slides....

Now, who is BC going to field at RB?  Not many decent ones in-league.  Maybe some ELC IMP gamble.

Doesn't BC still have O'Connor? 

Couture to the Lions

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/b-c-lions-agree-to-terms-with-canadian-ol-michael-couture/

Quote from: the.inkster on February 09, 2023, 10:48:26 PM
Couture to the Lions

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/b-c-lions-agree-to-terms-with-canadian-ol-michael-couture/

Will be interesting to see what he signed for.

Argos sign Orimolade away from Stamps.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/toronto-argonauts-agree-to-terms-with-de-folarin-orimolade/

Quote from: theaardvark on February 09, 2023, 10:47:14 PM
Doesn't BC still have O'Connor? 

On potential free agent list.

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 10, 2023, 12:12:20 AM
On potential free agent list.

As is Pipkin, I think they might re-sign O'Connor.

Quote from: the.inkster on February 09, 2023, 10:48:26 PM
Couture to the Lions

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/b-c-lions-agree-to-terms-with-canadian-ol-michael-couture/

That's unfortunate

Quote from: pjrocksmb on February 10, 2023, 12:42:54 AM
That's unfortunate

BC guy goes back to BC.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/toronto-argonauts-agree-to-terms-with-de-folarin-orimolade/

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 10, 2023, 12:43:30 AM
BC guy goes back to BC.

Makes sense

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/ottawa-redblacks-agree-to-terms-with-dl-michael-wakefield/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/stampeders-sign-former-ticats-receiver-tony-brown/

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 10, 2023, 12:23:36 AM
As is Pipkin, I think they might re-sign O'Connor.

Could be. Dom Davis will be the new short yardage which was the role Pipkin had. O'Conner may have more upside as a QB as a passer but that's just a guess.

Farhan reporting that Eugene Lewis is going to the Elks.

Quote from: Ridermania on February 09, 2023, 05:11:23 PM
Cody Fajardo signs with Montreal, more to follow in regards to contract dollars.

So SSK/MTL will trade QBs?  What a silly off-season.  Shuffling losers around  :D :D :D  Both teams will still lose.

Quote from: pjrocksmb on February 09, 2023, 06:57:52 PM
https://3downnation.com/2023/02/09/original-ottawa-redblack-antoine-pruneau-announces-retirement-after-eight-cfl-seasons/

I'm a bit surprised, and this is a loss to OTT, Pruneau was solid in that spot and often as good as an IMP.  Good luck to Pruneau; one of the good guys.

Quote from: the.inkster on February 09, 2023, 10:48:26 PM
Couture to the Lions

Didn't really see that coming.  They must have lots of extra $$ space.  BC OL starting to get respectable?  Maybe don't write them off just yet; I don't see SSK making (m)any similar, required OL moves.  There's a massive competition among BC/EDM/SSK to not be the worst in the W.  Wake Up O'Day!

Quote from: 4everalonghair on February 10, 2023, 02:19:18 AM
Farhan reporting that Eugene Lewis is going to the Elks.

So big-$$ Kenny being hurt most of the time threw them off the Kenny idea, but didn't throw them off the over-priced WR idea.  Lewis will be Lewis but the lack of supporting cast is going to limit him.  Bit of a shame, really.

Quote from: 4everalonghair on February 10, 2023, 02:19:18 AM
Farhan reporting that Eugene Lewis is going to the Elks.

They are starting to scare me a little.  They added Brown as RB during the last 7 games and he put up 486 yds with a ypc over 6.5.

Now with Lewis joining Derel Walker, Kyran Moore and Dillon Mitchell, that's an arsenal.  Cornelius is getting his turnovers under control and has a cannon for an arm.  If that OL holds water, they are going to be way more effective than last year.

Quote from: the paw on February 10, 2023, 04:18:19 AM
They are starting to scare me a little.  They added Brown as RB during the last 7 games and he put up 486 yds with a ypc over 6.5.

Now with Lewis joining Derel Walker, Kyran Moore and Dillon Mitchell, that's an arsenal.  Cornelius is getting his turnovers under control and has a cannon for an arm.  If that OL holds water, they are going to be way more effective than last year.

And, and there's the rub.  At the current pace they are setting themselves up to be 2019 BC.  All receiver, plus a QB taking sacks behind the turnstiles.

I think Corny can get it done, but not if that OL stays the same.  Brown looks like NFL good, but he'll have weaknesses and/or fizzle out (I'm hoping?).  Lewis and Mitchell are going to light it up (get your fantasy rosters ready!), but not scared of their other guys.

At the very least they will be entertaining!  Is C.Jones going to put together a team with a great O and mediocre D?  Say it isn't so!

Hamilton could be very good with Wynn and Sayles at DT, if Wynn can stay healthy. Laurent is 35 and an FA. He has also had two very sub-par years. Looks like Hamilton could be moving on and getting younger.

Good pickup for BC. Couture will help there OL.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 10, 2023, 04:25:34 AM
And, and there's the rub.  At the current pace they are setting themselves up to be 2019 BC.  All receiver, plus a QB taking sacks behind the turnstiles.

I think Corny can get it done, but not if that OL stays the same.  Brown looks like NFL good, but he'll have weaknesses and/or fizzle out (I'm hoping?).  Lewis and Mitchell are going to light it up (get your fantasy rosters ready!), but not scared of their other guys.

At the very least they will be entertaining!  Is C.Jones going to put together a team with a great O and mediocre D?  Say it isn't so!

I forgot to mention Dunbar, although he may end up pushing out Walker. And Dunbar is a stud.

I think they have 4-5 good interior OL, but they are going with new OTs this year (which they needed to).  I think they are definitely better than last year.

DL Kwaku Boateng signed by the Tiger Cats.

RB Andrew Harris re-signs for one year with the Argos, tells them it's his last season.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2023, 02:30:15 PM
RB Andrew Harris re-signs for one year with the Argos, tells them it's his last season.

He'll have to time all his injuries so he's just coming back for September 29.

Quote from: Ridermania on February 10, 2023, 01:21:45 PM
DL Kwaku Boateng signed by the Tiger Cats.

Hamilton has a boat load of DL. I am wondering if they would be interested in moving Mason Bennett.

Will he make an entire season?


https://3downnation.com/2023/02/10/toronto-argonauts-re-sign-star-canadian-rb-andrew-harris/

Quote from: Ridermania on February 10, 2023, 01:21:45 PM
DL Kwaku Boateng signed by the Tiger Cats.

From a roster management perspective I would prefer Walters went after a position of need like Boateng, instead of adding extra cream cheese on top like Lawler.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 10, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
From a roster management perspective I would prefer Walters went after a position of need like Boateng, instead of adding extra cream cheese on top like Lawler.

Yes....however the cream cheese often makes the dessert.....our offence will be deadly difficult to defend!  Typically, I tend to agree with you however this team is coming off a stinging GC loss and wants to be back in Hamilton (again) for another kick at the can.   It's a difficult task as both Hamilton and Toronto will be wanting a Grey Cup and there is no other team more desperate than Hamilton.   Toronto just signed AH and I'm sure he didn't come cheap either yet he knows HOW to win.    We won the 21 Cup by a finger tip and we lost one by a finger tip after posting our best season at 15-3.    I think Walters understands just how difficult it will be to win a 3rd Cup and we first have to get there....and to accomplish this will require an offence that can score when they have to.    Personally, I prefer outscoring our opponents versus stymying them defensively.....and if we become more capable offensively, I'm down with that approach.....

Boys its the same old thing.

We need guys who can pressure the QB.
We need some DBs  who can knock balls down if they cant catch them
We need those little guys to tackle.

Offensively, who was that terrible left guard?  what a fricken turnstile.  Then Hardwick missed a lot of blocks last year.  Has his time past?
Other than that we are petty much set.

oh wait we don't have a placekicker. How many points did he leave on the field last yr.?

Dude we were 15-3 and then our QB got injured badly and still played but wasn't his normal self. Come on.

Quote from: DM83 on February 10, 2023, 04:53:09 PM
Boys its the same old thing.

We need guys who can pressure the QB.
We need some DBs  who can knock balls down if they cant catch them
We need those little guys to tackle.

Offensively, who was that terrible left guard?  what a fricken turnstile.  Then Hardwick missed a lot of blocks last year.  Has his time past?
Other than that we are petty much set.

oh wait we don't have a placekicker. How many points did he leave on the field last yr.?

I believe we will have one of the best O-lines in the league. In saying that I like the potential look of BC's o-line, they have some "nastyness" I really like Chungh and Couture beside one another, sure they are no longer Bombers, but they bring it and with attitude. I just don't think they have a very good QB room.

I am not liking the mass exodus that appears to be happening in Mtrl. I want all teams to be competitive, but wow are they losing talent out the door.

Edm. is still signing everyone, they will continue to bring in and release, seems to be Jones MO. Cal as usual is mostly calm so far.

Sask. is swinging, but that o-line, Harris while he has a quick release isn't nearly as mobile as Fajardo, although some blame last year has to fall on the receivers, and Sask. seems to be changing that department up wholesale style.

Ham. seems to believe that game is won along the D-line, they look to be a good team, can BO regain the mojo and look good outside of the Cal. QB factory.

T.O won it last year and is still looking like they could be a top dog in East. People here poke fun at AH for injuries etc. but I would safely say his intangibles was a huge part of them winning the cup last year.

Ott. was better than they showed, Marino derailed them, if Masoli stays healthy I would think they will be better than last year, one should assume at least better than Mtrl. based on the look of the rosters

Overall I can't wait to see some rosters as seasons start

I think the MTL crapshow started with the hiring of Maas... and the upset in the ownership... pretty sure Maas will be the first firing of the season, allowing Macchocia to get on the sidelines again...

Laurent staying with the Tiger Cats.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/10/not-too-old-for-teddy-ticats-re-sign-veteran-canadian-dt-ted-laurent/

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 10, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
From a roster management perspective I would prefer Walters went after a position of need like Boateng, instead of adding extra cream cheese on top like Lawler.

Disagree

Quote from: DM83 on February 10, 2023, 04:53:09 PM
Boys its the same old thing.

We need guys who can pressure the QB.
We need some DBs  who can knock balls down if they cant catch them
We need those little guys to tackle.

Offensively, who was that terrible left guard?  what a fricken turnstile.  Then Hardwick missed a lot of blocks last year.  Has his time past?
Other than that we are petty much set.

oh wait we don't have a placekicker. How many points did he leave on the field last yr.?

Overstated on the negative imo
Kicker is good, will be great
Our DL was decent last year, will be again
Dbs hard to say how we will make out, too early to know or worry
Criticism of the OL is heavily overstated

Quote from: BlueGold8597 on February 10, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
Dude we were 15-3 and then our QB got injured badly and still played but wasn't his normal self. Come on.

Agree

Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on February 10, 2023, 05:59:17 PM
I believe we will have one of the best O-lines in the league. In saying that I like the potential look of BC's o-line, they have some "nastyness" I really like Chungh and Couture beside one another, sure they are no longer Bombers, but they bring it and with attitude. I just don't think they have a very good QB room.

I am not liking the mass exodus that appears to be happening in Mtrl. I want all teams to be competitive, but wow are they losing talent out the door.

Edm. is still signing everyone, they will continue to bring in and release, seems to be Jones MO. Cal as usual is mostly calm so far.

Sask. is swinging, but that o-line, Harris while he has a quick release isn't nearly as mobile as Fajardo, although some blame last year has to fall on the receivers, and Sask. seems to be changing that department up wholesale style.

Ham. seems to believe that game is won along the D-line, they look to be a good team, can BO regain the mojo and look good outside of the Cal. QB factory.

T.O won it last year and is still looking like they could be a top dog in East. People here poke fun at AH for injuries etc. but I would safely say his intangibles was a huge part of them winning the cup last year.

Ott. was better than they showed, Marino derailed them, if Masoli stays healthy I would think they will be better than last year, one should assume at least better than Mtrl. based on the look of the rosters

Overall I can't wait to see some rosters as seasons start

Agree our OL is boss

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/10/not-too-old-for-teddy-ticats-re-sign-veteran-canadian-dt-ted-laurent/

Quote from: theaardvark on February 10, 2023, 07:31:02 PM
I think the MTL crapshow started with the hiring of Maas... and the upset in the ownership... pretty sure Maas will be the first firing of the season, allowing Macchocia to get on the sidelines again...

Pay attention, Macchocia has stated over and over he doesn't want to be a coach.  He just confirmed it once again by hiring Maas.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/10/ottawa-redblacks-agree-to-terms-with-former-riders-ol-terran-vaughn/

Ti-Cats release DB Cariel Brooks. SMS casualty?

Chris Jones probably has him signed by midnight. :)

Carriel Brooks is a stud

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 10, 2023, 10:43:34 PM
Ti-Cats release DB Cariel Brooks. SMS casualty?

Chris Jones probably has him signed by midnight. :)

I don't know. Chris Jones usually likes his half backs to also be defensive ends and wide receivers.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 10, 2023, 11:04:13 PM
I don't know. Chris Jones usually likes his half backs to also be defensive ends and wide receivers.

He can add 20 lbs weight to his shoulder pads when he slots in at DE and he can wear 6" lifts when he plays as a WR.

Seriously he's a good player and I have to imagine this was an SMS adjustment. Could be the need to trim after adding all those free agent players on defence. IE: Sayles for one.

Not really sure where he ends up But Regina did come to mind.

Quote from: M.O.A.B. on February 10, 2023, 10:54:47 PM
Carriel Brooks is a stud

Just looked at his stats... looks like a bad year last year, which is not great for a 32 year old (at TC start) DB...  only 12 games played, and 35 tackles, zero INT...

Might be HAM deciding his best before date has passed...

Quote from: theaardvark on February 11, 2023, 12:07:49 AM
Just looked at his stats... looks like a bad year last year, which is not great for a 32 year old (at TC start) DB...  only 12 games played, and 35 tackles, zero INT...

Might be HAM deciding his best before date has passed...

Nichols played 17 games for the Bombers and only had 46 DT's. Number of tackles is only part of the equation. You want a DB that teams don't like to through towards.  Also whether the tackles were against his coverage or in support.

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 11, 2023, 02:21:51 PM
Nichols played 17 games for the Bombers and only had 46 DT's. Number of tackles is only part of the equation. You want a DB that teams don't like to through towards.  Also whether the tackles were against his coverage or in support.

Brooks # of tackles per game is basically constant over the past year.  I suppose the drop in INTs might be an indicator.  He was injured for the first half of the season, so its not lime he was a healthy scratch.

I think it is likely a roster bonus due combined with the realization that they were able to get by without him.

RedBlacks release Avery Williams early. He'd make a good DI choice for the right price.

https://www.tsn.ca/tim-white-to-return-to-hamilton-tiger-cats-1.1917983

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 11, 2023, 06:12:17 PM
RedBlacks release Avery Williams early. He'd make a good DI choice for the right price.

He will be looking for a big pay day. Las 2 years he has made a lot of tackles. Very solid LB.

Quote from: Pigskin on February 11, 2023, 08:23:53 PM
He will be looking for a big pay day. Las 2 years he has made a lot of tackles. Very solid LB.

Not sure where he'll find that though. He's had a week to discuss being signed elsewhere already and hasn't found a new home. Lots of LB's available on the potential free agent list at this point. Can't think of another team looking for a starting LB at the moment.

He can still play very well so not sure what will happen.

O'day proving his terrible GM skills from last year are no fluke lol.  Saskatchewan's o-line will continue to be crap next year so adding a better Qb in Harris won't make much of a difference as he will be running for his life or flat on his butt.  You love to see it in Saskatchewan! ;D

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on February 11, 2023, 10:01:21 PM
O'day proving his terrible GM skills from last year are no fluke lol.  Saskatchewan's o-line will continue to be crap next year so adding a better Qb in Harris won't make much of a difference as he will be running for his life or flat on his butt.  You love to see it in Saskatchewan! ;D

He?s gonna be a lot better than CoFaj.

Depending on how much buy in the coaches get, they could be improved from last year.

https://www.cfl.ca/2023/02/11/argos-extend-east-all-star-a-j-ouellette/

Is Harris an upgrade on Fajardo? 

Or was Fajardo bad because of his OC, OL and the team in general?

I can't see SSK improving unless we see some interesting signings for the Oline... or if they get really lucky in the Draft, or get lucky in signing talent off other teams cuts/PR's

Harris is at least 3x better than CoFaj.

LB Avery Williams to Montreal.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/12/montreal-alouettes-sign-lb-avery-williams-following-release-from-redblacks/

Shaq Evans says he's leaving Regina. Didn't say if he going somewhere in particular?  He was their 2nd leading receiver / target.

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on February 11, 2023, 10:01:21 PM
O'day proving his terrible GM skills from last year are no fluke lol.  Saskatchewan's o-line will continue to be crap next year so adding a better Qb in Harris won't make much of a difference as he will be running for his life or flat on his butt.  You love to see it in Saskatchewan! ;D

Yes, he may be the most incompetent league-wide, except for maybe MTL's GM.

Quote from: theaardvark on February 12, 2023, 06:57:01 PM
Is Harris an upgrade on Fajardo? 

Or was Fajardo bad because of his OC, OL and the team in general?

I can't see SSK improving unless we see some interesting signings for the Oline... or if they get really lucky in the Draft, or get lucky in signing talent off other teams cuts/PR's

Quote from: Jesse on February 12, 2023, 07:02:55 PM
Harris is at least 3x better than CoFaj.

T.Harris is absolutely an upgrade over Cody, overall.  Except, T.Harris is not as mobile, nor young enough to still take the hits.  Therefore Harris is a worse choice for SSK because whoever is there is going to be beaten up on every other passing down.

But, the QB change does give the greenie fans some hope and a change of scenery, so that will help lift the ST sales vs if they just stuck with much-hated whiner Fajardo (SSK fans' words, not mine).

The bigger question is: what is SSK doing??  Have they strengthened any unit?  WRs?  OL?  DL?  DBs?  Ok, I guess they are a solid LB unit.  Talk is that their DL will be solid, though I might question that.  The job of the GM is to make changes to upgrade the units, not sit and do nothing or let them get worse!  (Compare with KW...)  SSK's O at the moment looks horrificly anemic, and their D isn't too hot either.  It's about now they're wishing they had C.Jones calling the shots...

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/12/cfl-all-star-receiver-dominique-rhymes-requests-trade-from-b-c-lions-report/

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 12, 2023, 07:08:00 PM
Shaq Evans says he's leaving Regina. Didn't say if he going somewhere in particular?  He was their 2nd leading receiver / target.

Farhan says he is headed to Ottawa.  Likely as a replacement for Darwin Adams, I would bet.

Duke Williams said to be going to Hamilton.

Riders cleaned house on import receivers, and while I am a Weineke fan, they need a stud to replenish the corps.  That means either going all in on Geno Lewis, or serving up an asset to get hold of Rhymes.  I'm not sure there are any other true #1 options available. I guess they could try Ellingson on for size.   

Quote from: the paw on February 13, 2023, 12:58:00 AM
Farhan says he is headed to Ottawa.  Likely as a replacement for Darwin Adams, I would bet.

Duke Williams said to be going to Hamilton.

Riders cleaned house on import receivers, and while I am a Weineke fan, they need a stud to replenish the corps.  That means either going all in on Geno Lewis, or serving up an asset to get hold of Rhymes.  I'm not sure there are any other true #1 options available. I guess they could try Ellingson on for size.  

If that happens I'd guess Bailey could end up as a Rider in a few days.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/12/montreal-alouettes-agree-to-terms-with-canadian-ol-justin-lawrence/

Couple interesting tid bits above there guys thanks

Quote from: the paw on February 13, 2023, 12:58:00 AM
Farhan says he is headed to Ottawa.  Likely as a replacement for Darwin Adams, I would bet.

Duke Williams said to be going to Hamilton.

Riders cleaned house on import receivers, and while I am a Weineke fan, they need a stud to replenish the corps.  That means either going all in on Geno Lewis, or serving up an asset to get hold of Rhymes.  I'm not sure there are any other true #1 options available. I guess they could try Ellingson on for size.   

Hamilton would be wise to go after Rhymes instead of Duke Williams, he would also be a great addition for Sask.

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/12/montreal-alouettes-sign-lb-avery-williams-following-release-from-redblacks/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/10/steeltown-stunner-hamilton-tiger-cats-release-former-all-star-db-cariel-brooks/

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2023, 03:56:50 AM
Hamilton would be wise to go after Rhymes instead of Duke Williams, he would also be a great addition for Sask.

Hamilton is spending lots of SMS in the tampering period. Rhymes wants more money and they would need to give up an asset in trade to get him. I agree he's a better player than Williams but can a deal be worked out they can afford? Also they're locked into the Williams deal now in theory.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 12, 2023, 08:46:28 PM
T.Harris is absolutely an upgrade over Cody, overall.  Except, T.Harris is not as mobile, nor young enough to still take the hits.  Therefore Harris is a worse choice for SSK because whoever is there is going to be beaten up on every other passing down.

But, the QB change does give the greenie fans some hope and a change of scenery, so that will help lift the ST sales vs if they just stuck with much-hated whiner Fajardo (SSK fans' words, not mine).

I will die on the hill that if you have a poor OL, you want a guy with a quick release, not a mobile QB.

CoFaj ran into all his sacks trying to run around. T. Harris will just get it out of there.

Quote from: Jesse on February 13, 2023, 01:44:04 PM
I will die on the hill that if you have a poor OL, you want a guy with a quick release, not a mobile QB.

CoFaj ran into all his sacks trying to run around. T. Harris will just get it out of there.

Also the Sask. receiving corps while big on "names" last year let Cody down many times. This is part of why I believe that they are making so many changes at receiver. A quick release QB and a different receiver core could make a big difference. In saying that though, they better improve the o-line either through personelle or coaching/schemes. Harris has a reputation of being "thrown off" his game after getting hit.

Posters are dumping on Fajardo, like it was his fault Sask sucked last yr.
First off he played almost the entire season with a inured knee.
Second, his O-line sucked
Third, the supposed big name receivers, quit on the team
His OC Maas has never been very sucessful as a coach.

Now they have not released him have they?
Fajrdo would have got the Riders into the Grey Cup a few years ago accept for hitting a goal post. That fluke allowed the Bombers to get in.
Fajardo doe not read defences all that well.
He resorts to scrambling.  With a bad knee it cut down on that tool, and he as we saw wasn't a great pocket passer.

If he gets an o-line, and the knee is stable, he can do good things.

As was just mentioned, how is Harris going to fare behind a crap line in Sask with no former "has beens" at receiver.?
It would be great if Sask signs Lewis.  Then they should go get some big American to block, and they will re-bound.

Sankey wants out of Riderville apparently... someone is going to scoop him up. 

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/11/pending-free-agent-darnell-sankey-turns-down-riders-offer-to-make-him-cfls-second-highest-paid-linebacker/

Quote from: theaardvark on February 13, 2023, 04:38:11 PM
Sankey wants out of Riderville apparently... someone is going to scoop him up. 

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/11/pending-free-agent-darnell-sankey-turns-down-riders-offer-to-make-him-cfls-second-highest-paid-linebacker/

A top LB but he want's top money and wants to start. He'd be an asset to any team but who is in the market for a MLB at the moment? Muamba and Lacey are still available. All 3 will want some big $$$$. If I had to pick I'd take Sankey as the younger more versatile player. Muamba has the advantage of being a Canadian. Expensive choices.

tony washington
@t_dubsworld12
5h
12 years,2 Grey Cups,and a hell of a ride! This league has given me so much that I will hold to my heart forever, but after much talks with my family it's time to move on! To all of my coaches I've had, the fans, friends, and family I've developed THANK YOU! it has been amazing!

Montreal Alouettes announced they have signed American receiver Reggie White Jr. to a contract extension. He was set to become a free agent on Tuesday. The team also announced the signing of American linebacker Avery Williams, who was recently released by the Ottawa REDBLACKS, and the release of American defensive lineman Mike Moore.

Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
22h
One more for #TiCats fans on what?s shaping up to be a super Sunday: I?ve heard from multiple league sources that DL Ja'Gared Davis has agreed to a deal to return to Hamilton. But as we saw last year with JG, until it's signed on Tues, ya just never know @CFLonTSN

Quote from: ModAdmin on February 13, 2023, 06:36:16 PM
Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
22h
One more for #TiCats fans on what?s shaping up to be a super Sunday: I?ve heard from multiple league sources that DL Ja'Gared Davis has agreed to a deal to return to Hamilton. But as we saw last year with JG, until it's signed on Tues, ya just never know @CFLonTSN

Any team that wants to get to a Grey Cup should sign Davis... he's been to 6 consecutive, right?  Every year in the league, he's played in the final.

Mike Moore
@Mike_Moore32
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I want to thank the Montreal Alouettes for the past season and letting me continue to be a pro athlete in the game that I love and best of luck to all the guys there it's been a pleasure playing with you all. Now onto the next step of my pro football career and finding a new team

Quote from: ModAdmin on February 13, 2023, 06:36:16 PM
Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
22h
One more for #TiCats fans on what?s shaping up to be a super Sunday: I?ve heard from multiple league sources that DL Ja'Gared Davis has agreed to a deal to return to Hamilton. But as we saw last year with JG, until it's signed on Tues, ya just never know @CFLonTSN

Wow, Hamilton is loading up on the DL.

BC extends WR Dominique Rhymes.

Quote from: RyGuy13 on February 13, 2023, 07:35:23 PM
BC extends WR Dominique Rhymes.

I wonder how large an increase he got?

Quote from: RyGuy13 on February 13, 2023, 07:35:23 PM
BC extends WR Dominique Rhymes.

Extend and trade?  Or is he going to stay... if he stays, awkward?

Quote from: theaardvark on February 13, 2023, 08:36:30 PM
Extend and trade?  Or is he going to stay... if he stays, awkward?

I used to think that way (awkward) but now believe the "business" side is more important than anything now. I understand it and believe most players and management think that too.

Quote from: theaardvark on February 13, 2023, 08:36:30 PM
Extend and trade?  Or is he going to stay... if he stays, awkward?

It was a business / money issue which appears to have been resolved.

Rider bringing back DT Micah Johnson

https://www.cfl.ca/2023/02/13/als-get-a-pre-valentines-day-rose/

So, Elks sigh QB Vinnie Testaverde...

Quote from: Jesse on February 13, 2023, 01:44:04 PM
I will die on the hill that if you have a poor OL, you want a guy with a quick release, not a mobile QB.

CoFaj ran into all his sacks trying to run around. T. Harris will just get it out of there.

Could be.  Maybe you need a bit of both (quick and mobile).  Ya, Cody never learned the Nichols throw-away tactic, which may have saved Nichols from looking like Cody out there sometimes.  But at least Nichols could hit the deep ball and read a D...

But if you rely on quick release for your bad OL, then you need an OC who gets it.  Maas never did get it.  The ironic thing is McAdoo did...

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/13/longtime-cfl-offensive-lineman-tony-washington-retires-following-12-year-career/

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/edmonton-elks-release-canadian-running-back-ante-litre-month-after-extension-1.1918856

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/13/montreal-alouettes-re-sign-reggie-white-jr-release-mike-moore/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/13/feel-the-heel-saskatchewan-roughriders-sign-ol-jordan-tucker/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/13/edmonton-elks-add-son-of-longtime-nfl-qb-vinny-testaverde/

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/13/riders-sign-former-texas-am-standout-db-leon-oneal-jr/

Quote from: pjrocksmb on February 14, 2023, 03:33:51 AM
https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/edmonton-elks-release-canadian-running-back-ante-litre-month-after-extension-1.1918856

Is this legal per CFL rules??  Do they still have to pay him something?  If Litre didn't want that, surely there must be some protection built in for players.  This would screw up their tamper-week offers (i.e. they wouldn't get any).  This would strike me as uncommon, and shady.  Leave it to C.Jones...

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 14, 2023, 06:55:49 AM
Is this legal per CFL rules??  Do they still have to pay him something?  If Litre didn't want that, surely there must be some protection built in for players.  This would screw up their tamper-week offers (i.e. they wouldn't get any).  This would strike me as uncommon, and shady.  Leave it to C.Jones...

Yes it's legal and not a surprising thing for Jones to do. A player that signs an extension early is still able to see if he gets offers in the tampering window. Elks have already released 3 or 4 players and we'll see more of the same as Jones tinkers in the months before TC.

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 14, 2023, 01:03:33 PM
Yes it's legal and not a surprising thing for Jones to do. A player that signs an extension early is still able to see if he gets offers in the tampering window. Elks have already released 3 or 4 players and we'll see more of the same as Jones tinkers in the months before TC.

I don't think that's true.  A player who signs an extension removes themselves from the legal tampering process, which is only open to players with expiring deals.  A player can talk terms with his existing team and then still take offers, but once he signs, he's committed.

I agree that this is typical for Jones.  He paid a huge bonus to extend Arbuckle before the season, and then immediately set out trying to find anyone else to play QB.  I think he's very impulsive.

Quote from: the paw on February 14, 2023, 06:09:06 PM
I don't think that's true.  A player who signs an extension removes themselves from the legal tampering process, which is only open to players with expiring deals.  A player can talk terms with his existing team and then still take offers, but once he signs, he's committed.

I agree that this is typical for Jones.  He paid a huge bonus to extend Arbuckle before the season, and then immediately set out trying to find anyone else to play QB.  I think he's very impulsive.

Jones has a lot of irons in the fire, always looking for new talent and when they agree to come, he has to make room for them QUICKLY.  Not a bad thing for the CFL, he brings in a lot of new players and keeps things lively.

Quote from: the paw on February 14, 2023, 06:09:06 PM
I don't think that's true.  A player who signs an extension removes themselves from the legal tampering process, which is only open to players with expiring deals.  A player can talk terms with his existing team and then still take offers, but once he signs, he's committed.

That's what I would have thought.  If so, maybe this needs to be in the CBA.  Maybe it's not because no one would have thought of being such a d head before C.Jones.

A player should have protection if he's just re-signed and he stops shopping around and then a couple weeks later the team drops him without cause?  How many offers did he miss because teams thought he was locked up?

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 15, 2023, 01:49:47 AM
That's what I would have thought.  If so, maybe this needs to be in the CBA.  Maybe it's not because no one would have thought of being such a d head before C.Jones.

A player should have protection if he's just re-signed and he stops shopping around and then a couple weeks later the team drops him without cause?  How many offers did he miss because teams thought he was locked up?

Football is a cruel business, how many players think they have it made once they've signed a contract, only to be cut at the end of T.C.