So, with two sellers in the league, is anyone in a position to buy?
Or is everyone happy where they are, and relying on next man up going forward?
Is cap space a concern anywhere, or have teams saved on 6 game what they need to make deals?
Do some teams need a little push to get over the top?
Which players are on expiring contracts (most of them) that other teams covet?
Let's raid the Redblacks:
1. Kanneh at HB
2. (If Rutledge is toast) Levels at SAM.
OTT will need lots of ammo to rebuild, surely they will trade IMP stars for DPs...
We cannot go into the playoffs with NATs at 2 LB positions and only NATs at depth.
And when is Ellingson back? If never, might want to peek at OTT/EDM receivers. Darvin anyone?? Or, I hate 'em but he might want to win a quick GC: how about D.Walker. McCrae/Boo are good enough for regular season, but we need more beef for the playoffs.
Give me
DT Ceresna
DB Darby
Bring in a guy or two but gotta get a deal, over paying not an option for me, prefer someone young
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on October 03, 2022, 11:23:41 PM
Give me
DT Ceresna
DB Darby
it would be amazing if we could both these players! Massive boast to the D.
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on October 03, 2022, 11:23:41 PM
Give me
DT Ceresna
DB Darby
Ceresna is a good idea and real possibility (being in EDM).
Darby is impossible unless HAM severely blows it next game. It won't matter anyway because HAM won't know it's out of playoffs until after the deadline.
We basically have only 2 teams guaranteed to be out of the playoffs before the deadline. Almost certainly the 3rd team will be SSK, but if they trade away someone good right now before their final games the fans will go apoplectic that they've given up all hope.
It's funny, I find myself now wanting another WPG/HAM GC this year... It is possible. It would be another game where I'd be happy with either team winning.
Texted in the coach's show tonight and asked the question "are the bombers looking into trade deadlines on October 5th", MOS replied we got a good football team.
Quote from: barbk on October 04, 2022, 02:06:50 AM
Texted in the coach's show tonight and asked the question "are the bombers looking into trade deadlines on October 5th", MOS replied we got a good football team.
Of course that what he will say, what else. But whether the Bombers will trade for a player or two, its not his job. It's Walters.
Quote from: barbk on October 04, 2022, 02:06:50 AM
Texted in the coach's show tonight and asked the question "are the bombers looking into trade deadlines on October 5th", MOS replied we got a good football team.
Ya, a good football team with 13 on the IR... That includes 8 that I would call our superstars. Actually, 14 and 9 if we add Rutledge this week.
It's all well and good, but like MOAB says, KW could make some plays for trades without MOS consulting/knowing.
I'm telling you, we aren't rolling into the playoffs with 2 NATs starting at LB. It's not happening. So either we get Wilson back pronto, or new, vet blood will be brought in.
I can't recall us ever starting a NAT at SAM!! Someone said maybe move BA to SAM and start Hallett. That might work, but is not ideal.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 04, 2022, 02:04:16 AM
Ceresna is a good idea and real possibility (being in EDM).
In what mad world do people think Chris Jones is going to trade his best DT to Wpg.? Maybe if they offer him Jefferson.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 04, 2022, 02:04:16 AM
Ceresna is a good idea and real possibility (being in EDM).
Darby is impossible unless HAM severely blows it next game. It won't matter anyway because HAM won't know it's out of playoffs until after the deadline.
We basically have only 2 teams guaranteed to be out of the playoffs before the deadline. Almost certainly the 3rd team will be SSK, but if they trade away someone good right now before their final games the fans will go apoplectic that they've given up all hope.
It's funny, I find myself now wanting another WPG/HAM GC this year... It is possible. It would be another game where I'd be happy with either team winning.
What makes you think the Riders won't be the crossover team?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 04, 2022, 02:47:00 AM
In what mad world do people think Chris Jones is going to trade his best DT to Wpg.? Maybe if they offer him Jefferson.
He is a pending free-agent. There's no guarantee he will re-sign in Edm.
Even if the Bombers are making a trade, MOS would never play his hand.
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on October 03, 2022, 11:23:41 PM
Give me
DT Ceresna
DB Darby
Please get Santos Knox
All would be great additions cuz we need to stuff Stamps running game in the playoffs
IIRC, Santos-Knox burned the bridge when he left Winnipeg.
Quote from: Jockitch on October 04, 2022, 03:19:50 AM
Please get Santos Knox
All would be great additions cuz we need to stuff Stamps running game in the playoffs
But JSK doesn't help us as he's WILL/MIKE. Look at our direst needs first. a) Assume we get Wilson back + b) we have tons of NAT depth at WILL, none at SAM. JSK would be good insurance (for both WILL/MIKE) and nice to have while Wilson is still out, but it's like the 4th or 5th need at the moment.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 04, 2022, 03:07:58 AM
What makes you think the Riders won't be the crossover team?
Because SSK will not win another game that matters. The only shot is @HAM and I think HAM eats them raw: like super-embarrassing evisceration.
Even if SSK wins @HAM they'll never win vs CGY.
HAM is basically guaranteed 2 wins vs a tryouts-for-next-year OTT. HAM has an extra game still. If HAM wins just 1 of HAM/CGY then even if SSK wins vs HAM, HAM blocks the crossover because of the "must have more points" rule.
I will bet huge money that SSK wins no meaningful game the rest of the season. They are demoralized and in disarray and they have no answers. The coaching is hopeless and I think CD is the witch that gets burned (the first of many). The Riders forums are right: "gosh gee, the boys tried hard" by Mr. Furley / Elmer Fudd is not good enough. The locker room was lost weeks ago and the players don't care anymore. Even Cody is (basically said it) just thinking about his FA contract marketing and is probably pretty aware he's not likely to be back in green next year. I could go on: these 3 wins vs SSK have got me studying them pretty closely.
I would love it if Sask did not get the crossover but I still think the home Grey Cup might inspire them. And it remains to be seen if the final week Calgary game will be just a tune up for Calgary. Lots to be played yet.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 04, 2022, 05:09:33 AM
Because SSK will not win another game that matters. The only shot is @HAM and I think HAM eats them raw: like super-embarrassing evisceration.
Even if SSK wins @HAM they'll never win vs CGY.
HAM is basically guaranteed 2 wins vs a tryouts-for-next-year OTT. HAM has an extra game still. If HAM wins just 1 of HAM/CGY then even if SSK wins vs HAM, HAM blocks the crossover because of the "must have more points" rule.
I will bet huge money that SSK wins no meaningful game the rest of the season. They are demoralized and in disarray and they have no answers. The coaching is hopeless and I think CD is the witch that gets burned (the first of many). The Riders forums are right: "gosh gee, the boys tried hard" by Mr. Furley / Elmer Fudd is not good enough. The locker room was lost weeks ago and the players don't care anymore. Even Cody is (basically said it) just thinking about his FA contract marketing and is probably pretty aware he's not likely to be back in green next year. I could go on: these 3 wins vs SSK have got me studying them pretty closely.
Riders are still a better team than the 4 - 10 Ti Cats. Counting on the Ti Cats winning 2 of their 4 remaining games is iffy at best regardless of which teams they play. Even that requires the Riders to lose out.
We'll see how that works out this weekend. The Ti Cats need to win or it's curtains.
I'll be a bit surprised if we actually make a trade. It's not something we see the Bombers do often but it's possible I suppose.
What trade leverage could we possibly have anywhere?
Draft picks?
Neg list player(s)?
Depth OL?
What about the possibility of trading Johnny Augustine to Edm, Hamilton or Ottawa?
With Ellingson poised to come back at some point maybe even Wolitarsky, McCrae could backup Oliveira.
They could tack on a conditional draft pick choice to that trade and legit get a starting SAM or CB/DB?
or straight up a conditional draft pick and neg list player for a SAM or CB/DB and no Augustine involved.
(side note: with the emergence of rookie RB Kevin Brown in Edm, they wouldn't need Augustine)
My guess: I don't see the Canadian Mafia making any moves but if they do its because they see the same actual weakness we keyboard warriors see and our biggest weakness, Secondary/SAM.
reminder this is a 13-2 team thats been winning games at various times of the season with 2nd and 3rd string guys at CB, DB, S, SAM, WIL, DE, WR, SB and C.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 04, 2022, 02:31:22 AM
Ya, a good football team with 13 on the IR... That includes 8 that I would call our superstars. Actually, 14 and 9 if we add Rutledge this week.
It's all well and good, but like MOAB says, KW could make some plays for trades without MOS consulting/knowing.
I'm telling you, we aren't rolling into the playoffs with 2 NATs starting at LB. It's not happening. So either we get Wilson back pronto, or new, vet blood will be brought in.
I can't recall us ever starting a NAT at SAM!! Someone said maybe move BA to SAM and start Hallett. That might work, but is not ideal.
Wilson will not be back. But Ellingson and Houston will be.
I can see a few minor moves, some INT depth at LB or DB. I can't see anything on O at all. If a stud, like Ceresna, comes available, I'm not sure we win the bidding war for him.
I'm happy standing pat, especially if guys are coming back off IR. We have no idea who is coming back, or when. This roster, healthy, is about as good as you can get. And, if any of the high$ guys come off the 6game, that's SMS issues that may preclude picking up a player.
I've been wrong about basically everything this year, but I'm guessing that they stay put.
We have more than a month to get healthier and I think that's what we do. If we clinch our spot this week, we don't play another meaningful game until the second weekend of November.
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on October 04, 2022, 03:21:38 AM
IIRC, Santos-Knox burned the bridge when he left Winnipeg.
What bridge did he burn exactly? He signed with Edmonton as a free agent in 2019 for more than what the Bombers were able to offer him.
Darby back in blue
https://3downnation.com/2022/10/04/hamilton-tiger-cats-trade-defensive-back-alden-darby-to-winnipeg-blue-bombers/ (https://3downnation.com/2022/10/04/hamilton-tiger-cats-trade-defensive-back-alden-darby-to-winnipeg-blue-bombers/)
Great move!
Huge. Price was right too. For us.
Quote from: PurpleReign on October 04, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Wilson will not be back. But Ellingson and Houston will be.
What gives you the impression Houston will be back? I'd be happy to have that happen but have you heard something specific?
It's trigger pulling day!
3DN says they've released Kelvin McKnight.
Recently released Ti-Cat DB Desmond Lawrence is apparently being brought in as well.
Quote from: LXTSN on October 04, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
I've been wrong about basically everything this year, but I'm guessing that they stay put.
We have more than a month to get healthier and I think that's what we do. If we clinch our spot this week, we don't play another meaningful game until the second weekend of November.
Well that was fast...
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 04, 2022, 04:42:55 PM
It's trigger pulling day!
3DN says they've released Kelvin McKnight.
Recently released Ti-Cat DB Desmond Lawrence is apparently being brought in as well.
Lawrence has a few games under his belt. Might be an improvement as a DI? He can play on ST's and Cooper and Hassell haven't impressed me yet.
Hmmm. Cooper has Darby's # 22. Both are shown with that # at the moment.
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on October 03, 2022, 11:23:41 PM
Give me... DB Darby
****... Nailed it! Might actually be Kyle himself posting in disguise ???
Quote from: Norm W on October 04, 2022, 05:12:17 PM
****... Nailed it! Might actually be Kyle himself posting in disguise ???
If so, then Ceresna is on his way! ;D
Surprised at the move of Wilcots, although that must mean there is another move in the works, or Jefferson is expected back, and you have to give something to get something...
Darby will fit...
What's next?
Quote from: theaardvark on October 04, 2022, 06:02:43 PM
Surprised at the move of Wilcots, although that must mean there is another move in the works, or Jefferson is expected back, and you have to give something to get something...
Darby will fit...
What's next?
Bombers have recently signed DE's Keion Adams and Bronson Massie on the PR, hopefully they both get auditions before the end of the season and they let Jeffcoat heal fully before the playoffs.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 04, 2022, 06:18:30 PM
Bombers have recently signed DE's Keion Adams and Bronson Massie on the PR, hopefully they both get auditions before the end of the season and they let Jeffcoat heal fully before the playoffs.
I'm curious to see if and how they use Massie if he gets on the AR. I'd put him behind Adams as next up.
Massie is shorter and heavier than any of our candidates at DE. He almost seems built more for a DT. That said no physical trait is all inclusive specifically in that regard. He may be very fast, quick and powerful coming off the edge. He just seems a little " short " to be coming off the edge IMO.
Wow going to be so awesome to see how these new faces do. Just gotta clinch 1st and give these guys plenty of reps and rest out vets.
Wish we had "Capfriendly" for the CFL where we knew the actual contract status/value for these players.
Ceresna would be a huge get for anyone. Not sure Gainey fits with the team, but his skill set does.
Avery Williams, Mauldin (if not injured) would be nice pickups. Hunter or Kanneh depending on how long before we start seeing our DB's come back.
That's about all I see of interest...
I can't see Ceresna coming here. I mean the man is a beast. 54 games, 107 tackles, 25 sacks, 5 FF. 6'5", 293, and has excellent speed.
So, what are you giving up for him??? Jeffcoat and a 1st. round pick. Because there no way we can afford, Ceresna, Jeffcoat, and Jefferson.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 04, 2022, 09:45:54 PM
Wish we had "Capfriendly" for the CFL where we knew the actual contract status/value for these players.
Ceresna would be a huge get for anyone. Not sure Gainey fits with the team, but his skill set does.
Avery Williams, Mauldin (if not injured) would be nice pickups. Hunter or Kanneh depending on how long before we start seeing our DB's come back.
That's about all I see of interest...
Whatever the cap hit for any new player might be it's for 3 games, tops. I'm not sure where they draw the line for who pays a salary when a player is traded mid week. Regardless at worst it's 1/6 of the salary for 2022.
Clock is ticking for all CFL teams. I wonder if any other trades will be made. Nice to contemplate some of additions suggested but we'll know in the next 24 hours or so.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 04, 2022, 09:49:24 PM
I can't see Ceresna coming here. I mean the man is a beast. 54 games, 107 tackles, 25 sacks, 5 FF. 6'5", 293, and has excellent speed.
So, what are you giving up for him??? Jeffcoat and a 1st. round pick. Because there no way we can afford, Ceresna, Jeffcoat, and Jefferson.
I agree that Ceresna isn?t coming here but you have to factor when a player is put on the 6 game IR that?s 6 games worth of salary that isn?t counted towards the cap.
The Bombers could probably technically ?rent? a guy like Ceresna.
The Bombers could do a ?conditional pick and beg list player?? Without giving anyone up. Then again they could also trade a depth/practice roster guy as well.
Quote from: PurpleReign on October 04, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Wilson will not be back. But Ellingson and Houston will be.
Wilson has been out basically the whole season... and I didn't think/see it was a season-ender, so what's ailing him? If he doesn't come back, and we continue NAT at WILL, then we can start an extra IMP at DT and go back to the more familiar Fatboi rotation that worked so well in '19/'21.
Houston seemed to have a season-ender no-contact and I haven't heard otherwise. What makes you think he's going to be back?
Ellingson for sure should be back, soon. Maybe we are resting him for the playoffs since our O is already doing quite well.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 04, 2022, 09:45:54 PM
Wish we had "Capfriendly" for the CFL where we knew the actual contract status/value for these players.
Ceresna would be a huge get for anyone. Not sure Gainey fits with the team, but his skill set does.
Avery Williams, Mauldin (if not injured) would be nice pickups. Hunter or Kanneh depending on how long before we start seeing our DB's come back.
That's about all I see of interest...
Gainey is extremely toxic, the Riders let him go to F.A. for taking undisciplined penalties and the bad influence he had on teammates, so you'd think he get the message? Yet there he was on Saturday yapping away non-stop in the grill of opponents and taking stupid selfish penalties which cost his team yards, for no good reason. I was hoping Jones would pull him off the field and tear a strip out of him but I guess that is the behaviour he expects from Gainey.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 04, 2022, 09:45:54 PM
Wish we had "Capfriendly" for the CFL where we knew the actual contract status/value for these players.
Agreed. It would require much more accountability from the CFL when it comes to salaries and contracts, though.
Are we going to make another trade or is that it for the season?
Picking up Des Lawrence might be the final move we make this season.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 05, 2022, 02:03:38 PM
Are we going to make another trade or is that it for the season?
Down to the last few hours a trade can be made. We might see some more shuffling on the PR as more players released in NFL TC's start looking at CFL opportunities. Our's seem just about full but we probably see some quick looks and replacements over the next couple of weeks.
Looks like with the recent additions to practice roster we may be mostly done
Did any other teams make interesting trades?
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 04, 2022, 06:28:00 PM
I'm curious to see if and how they use Massie if he gets on the AR. I'd put him behind Adams as next up.
Massie is shorter and heavier than any of our candidates at DE. He almost seems built more for a DT. That said no physical trait is all inclusive specifically in that regard. He may be very fast, quick and powerful coming off the edge. He just seems a little " short " to be coming off the edge IMO.
It's interesting to know that Bronson Massie is about the same size as Bryant Turner.
Just watched Farhan and Naylor talk about a major trade between the Elks and Bombers.
It was Kenny Lawler back to the Bombers, but his season ending injury stopped trade talks.
I guess we'll never know what Winnipeg players/draft picks were going to the Elks for Lawler.
Quote from: Ridermania on October 06, 2022, 10:00:08 PM
Just watched Farhan and Naylor talk about a major trade between the Elks and Bombers.
It was Kenny Lawler back to the Bombers, but his season ending injury stopped trade talks.
I guess we'll never know what Winnipeg players/draft picks were going to the Elks for Lawler.
That seems improbable, given the cap implications. But if true, it probably means we won?t see Ellingson again this year. That?s the only reason I can think of that would cause them to pursue that deal.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 04, 2022, 01:16:59 PM
Riders are still a better team than the 4 - 10 Ti Cats. Counting on the Ti Cats winning 2 of their 4 remaining games is iffy at best regardless of which teams they play. Even that requires the Riders to lose out.
We'll see how that works out this weekend. The Ti Cats need to win or it's curtains.
I'll be a bit surprised if we actually make a trade. It's not something we see the Bombers do often but it's possible I suppose.
Sask is 2-8 in their last ten games, would be 1-9 if Rourke had played in BC. They're done there, was on the sidelines for the last game and they have zero life left. It will be a shyt kicking by the Tabbies on Friday.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 05, 2022, 04:50:33 AM
Gainey is extremely toxic, the Riders let him go to F.A. for taking undisciplined penalties and the bad influence he had on teammates, so you'd think he get the message? Yet there he was on Saturday yapping away non-stop in the grill of opponents and taking stupid selfish penalties which cost his team yards, for no good reason. I was hoping Jones would pull him off the field and tear a strip out of him but I guess that is the behaviour he expects from Gainey.
I don't think they got the message in Sask either once Gainey was gone. I'd give the Riders the edge over Gainey for undisciplined plays and actions this season.
Quote from: Ridermania on October 06, 2022, 10:00:08 PM
Just watched Farhan and Naylor talk about a major trade between the Elks and Bombers.
It was Kenny Lawler back to the Bombers, but his season ending injury stopped trade talks.
I guess we'll never know what Winnipeg players/draft picks were going to the Elks for Lawler.
Sounds like Rider Forum fake news to me.
Quote from: the paw on October 06, 2022, 10:03:13 PM
That seems improbable, given the cap implications. But if true, it probably means we won?t see Ellingson again this year. That?s the only reason I can think of that would cause them to pursue that deal.
Quote from: jdrattops on October 06, 2022, 10:20:40 PM
Sounds like Rider Forum fake news to me.
This was reported by Naylor.
There aren't cap concerns at this point of the season, paw. There's three more games - I'm sure we can absorb whatever Lawler had left of his game checks.
Quote from: Jesse on October 06, 2022, 10:24:44 PM
This was reported by Naylor.
There aren't cap concerns at this point of the season, paw. There's three more games - I'm sure we can absorb whatever Lawler had left of his game checks.
I forgot Lawler was on a one year deal. It will be interesting to see what he re-ups for next year, after the season ending injury.
Here's the link to the video.
https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/quiet-cfl-trade-deadline-stanback-returns-for-alouettes~2530809
If Edm was getting something of value in return there is no way they would have dressed Lawler in that game. I believe none of it.
Quote from: Waffler on October 07, 2022, 12:09:57 AM
If Edm was getting something of value in return there is no way they would have dressed Lawler in that game. I believe none of it.
Maybe they
had to dress him for that game to show/say "see he's perfectly healthy".
P.S. I agree that if this is true it means Ellingson and/or Woli are not coming back in time for playoffs.
Keeping with the "what ifs"... if we were going to trade for Lawler, what were we going to offer? 2nd round DP? 1st? EDM could basically name their price, IMHO, but with an eye towards next year they probably would go as "cheap" as 3rd or 2nd round.
And a trade would have been great from Lawler's perspective: he gets to showcase his talent before FA, net another GC and increase his value even more. Everyone wins.
If ellingson and Woli aren?t coming back for the playoff run, I don?t see this as the end of the world. Bailey has stepped up big time and BOO has came into his own as well.
The Lawler trade chatter the media created is drama really, we ll be fine without this supposed trade.
Quote from: dd on October 07, 2022, 02:11:23 AM
If ellingson and Woli aren?t coming back for the playoff run, I don?t see this as the end of the world. Bailey has stepped up big time and BOO has came into his own as well.
The Lawler trade chatter the media created is drama really, we ll be fine without this supposed trade.
I agree that it wouldn't be the end of the world, but I'd be a whole lot more comfortable with Ellingson and Wolitarsky back in the lineup. More weapons for Collaros, and forces the opposing D to keep more honest. Woli has just been so clutch on 2nd down, and Ellingson and Collaros seem to share a brain at times.
How would the ratio work with Lawler in had it happen?
Quote from: GoldHelmetHead on October 07, 2022, 03:36:13 PM
How would the ratio work with Lawler in had it happen?
Easy. He will replace McCrae on the line-up.
Sheed, Lawler, Demski, Schoen, BOLO
Still not convinced the Bombers offered anything serious enough to get Edm to move.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 07, 2022, 01:58:19 AM
Maybe they had to dress him for that game to show/say "see he's perfectly healthy".
Then you make the trade conditional on games played. UNLESS we were giving up a player.
If the Bombers had any confidence in his health (to preclude him playing in the game he was injured in) they would have made an offer that Jones could not refuse, no doubt. And the trade would have been done.
As it is, Jones gets the same result of SMS$ relief by Lawler heading to the 6 game... same as a trade.
If this is signalling that Ellingson is done for the year, that is unfortunate, but we still have plenty of targets.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 07, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
If the Bombers had any confidence in his health (to preclude him playing in the game he was injured in) they would have made an offer that Jones could not refuse, no doubt. And the trade would have been done.
As it is, Jones gets the same result of SMS$ relief by Lawler heading to the 6 game... same as a trade.
If this is signalling that Ellingson is done for the year, that is unfortunate, but we still have plenty of targets.
I don't believe for a second Walters tried to reacquire Lawler, he's priced out of their budget range and will continue to be so next F.A.. Bombers have shown they don't need a $200k+ receiver to create a successful passing attack, Lawler money is better spent elsewhere, plus they will need extra nickel to re-up Demski as a premier Natl. slot-back.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 07, 2022, 05:12:51 PM
I don't believe for a second Walters tried to reacquire Lawler, he's priced out of their budger range and will continue to be so next F.A.. Bombers have shown they don't need a $200k+ receiver to create a successful passing attack, Lawler money is better spent elsewhere, plus they will need extra nickel to re-up Demski as a premier Natl. slot-back.
You understand the pick up of Lawler was for the playoffs, right?
"Lawler?s one-year deal is reportedly worth $300,000, which would make him the CFL?s highest-paid non-quarterback."
https://www.thestar.com/sports/football/cfl/2022/02/08/edmonton-elks-sign-veteran-cfl-players-lawler-gainey-and-korte.html
Trading for Lawler just before we play the Elks would have been interesting... would be zero advantage for a "playbook" side of things... I don't think Edm knows what plays are in their playbook...
Quote from: theaardvark on October 07, 2022, 05:16:19 PM
You understand the pick up of Lawler was for the playoffs, right?
"Lawler?s one-year deal is reportedly worth $300,000, which would make him the CFL?s highest-paid non-quarterback."
https://www.thestar.com/sports/football/cfl/2022/02/08/edmonton-elks-sign-veteran-cfl-players-lawler-gainey-and-korte.html
I don't care, to me he wouldn't be worth it, he'd be gone again next year anyway and in the meantime he steals some other players opportunity to play. Bringing in short-term mercenaries is a violation of the team concept IMO.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 07, 2022, 05:25:38 PM
I don't care, to me he wouldn't be worth it, he'd be gone again next year anyway and in the meantime he steals some other players opportunity to play. Bringing in short-term mercenaries is a violation of the team concept IMO.
Sergio says hi by waving at you with a hand with a giant Grey Cup ring on it...sometimes you need better players to get you that win.
Lawler is the best receiver in the CFL
Quote from: The Zipp on October 07, 2022, 05:55:13 PM
Sergio says hi by waving at you with a hand with a giant Grey Cup ring on it...sometimes you need better players to get you that win.
Lawler is the best receiver in the CFL
Zach Collaros too.
He re-signed, but for 2019, that was a mercenary pick-up to replace Streveler.
Quote from: The Zipp on October 07, 2022, 05:55:13 PM
Sergio says hi by waving at you with a hand with a giant Grey Cup ring on it...sometimes you need better players to get you that win.
Lawler is the best receiver in the CFL
Apples to oranges, even with injuries to 2 starting receivers this season, that has not been a position of weakness.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 07, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
If the Bombers had any confidence in his health (to preclude him playing in the game he was injured in) they would have made an offer that Jones could not refuse, no doubt. And the trade would have been done.
As it is, Jones gets the same result of SMS$ relief by Lawler heading to the 6 game... same as a trade.
Jones may get SMS relief but he'd be better off had he picked up a draft choice for it.
Why on Earth would we make an offer Jones could not refuse? If anything we tried a low ball offer. I think it never got too far. The media is just talking to make noise.
You wonder who the source is. I can't see it coming from Walters.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 07, 2022, 05:25:38 PM
I don't care, to me he wouldn't be worth it, he'd be gone again next year anyway and in the meantime he steals some other players opportunity to play. Bringing in short-term mercenaries is a violation of the team concept IMO.
It would have been worth it if:
a: lawler is 100%.
b: Ellingson is out for the playoffs.
The team was not upset with Lawler accepting $300k from Edm, we moved on. We would have gladly signed him for what our budget would allow.
He is probably the best "rent a player" signing we could have found. And as to next year, he would again take the highest bid. And we'd have Ellingson back, or Wolitarsky, or...
Quote from: theaardvark on October 08, 2022, 02:22:00 PM
It would have been worth it if:
a: lawler is 100%.
b: Ellingson is out for the playoffs.
The team was not upset with Lawler accepting $300k from Edm, we moved on. We would have gladly signed him for what our budget would allow.
He is probably the best "rent a player" signing we could have found. And as to next year, he would again take the highest bid. And we'd have Ellingson back, or Wolitarsky, or...
It would have depended on what we'd have to have given up. Whether Ellingson and Woli are back in 2022 is not known by us posters due to lack of transparency by the team.
The SMS issue I think would have been a lesser issue. The 1 year contract is much the same as many other players on most teams.
I don't entirely believe this trade rumour but I would have been happy to get Lawler back for the play off run.