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Title: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on January 31, 2022, 04:30:53 AM
Free Agency discussions and signings by other CFL Teams.

Couple of rumours to start it off....

Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
25m
#BCLions have made a multi-year offer to #Bombers Kenny Lawler that will pay him 250k in 2022.
BC also expected to land #Elks PK Sean Whyte & showing strong interest in Loucheiz Purifoy & David Menard.
#RedBlacks have strong interest in #TiCats DT Dylan Wynn. #CFLFA @CFLonTSN


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on January 31, 2022, 04:37:48 AM
Justin Dunk
@JDunk12
51m
Toronto Argos re-sign quarterback McLeod Bethel-Thompson for 2022 season


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on January 31, 2022, 05:05:39 AM
Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
10h
Replying to
@FarhanLaljiTSN
Looks like both #Stampeders LB Darnell Sankey & #AlsMtl QB Matthew Shiltz will not sign extensions with their current teams ahead of the start of free agency on Feb 9. Both players getting plenty of early interest. Sankey led @cfl
 in tackles last season with 98. @CFLonTSN
 #CFLFA


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on January 31, 2022, 06:53:55 AM
Money is clearly important to a player and should be.  It will be interesting to see if Kenny Lawler takes BC's offer considering he seemed to be very offended that he was initially cut by BC and felt disrespected.  It's a dynamic that is interesting to say the least.  Would he take a lesser offer from the Bombers if it was reasonably close?  Would the Bombers be prepared to make an offer "reasonably close"? 


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Sec223 on January 31, 2022, 11:17:00 AM
Free Agency discussions and signings by other CFL Teams.

Couple of rumours to start it off....

Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
25m
#BCLions have made a multi-year offer to #Bombers Kenny Lawler that will pay him 250k in 2022.
BC also expected to land #Elks PK Sean Whyte & showing strong interest in Loucheiz Purifoy & David Menard.
#RedBlacks have strong interest in #TiCats DT Dylan Wynn. #CFLFA @CFLonTSN



250 ? Bye bye.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on January 31, 2022, 11:44:00 AM
Money is clearly important to a player and should be.  It will be interesting to see if Kenny Lawler takes BC's offer considering he seemed to be very offended that he was initially cut by BC and felt disrespected.  It's a dynamic that is interesting to say the least.  Would he take a lesser offer from the Bombers if it was reasonably close?  Would the Bombers be prepared to make an offer "reasonably close"? 

That has to be nearly 100k more than the Bombers' offer.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on January 31, 2022, 12:13:31 PM
B.C. Lions have submitted a big offer for CFL all-star receiver Kenny Lawler.

Per sources, the Leos have tabled a contract proposal that would pay the three-down league's reigning receiving yards leader in the $250,000 range for the 2022 season.

If accepted, it would make Lawler the CFL's highest-paid non-quarterback.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on January 31, 2022, 12:14:59 PM
Money is clearly important to a player and should be.  It will be interesting to see if Kenny Lawler takes BC's offer considering he seemed to be very offended that he was initially cut by BC and felt disrespected.  It's a dynamic that is interesting to say the least.  Would he take a lesser offer from the Bombers if it was reasonably close?  Would the Bombers be prepared to make an offer "reasonably close"? 

Different management and situation when Lawler was released by BC.

Most players will follow the money due to short careers.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on January 31, 2022, 04:07:18 PM
That has to be nearly 100k more than the Bombers' offer.

That has to be completely wrong... I have no doubt that the Bombers are in the $200k range to re-sign their best WR.  Suggesting they'd lowball him that much is insulting to both Lawler AND Walters...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on January 31, 2022, 04:08:13 PM
B.C. Lions have submitted a big offer for CFL all-star receiver Kenny Lawler.

Per sources, the Leos have tabled a contract proposal that would pay the three-down league's reigning receiving yards leader in the $250,000 range for the 2022 season.

If accepted, it would make Lawler the CFL's highest-paid non-quarterback.


Alos make him the highest paid BC Lion... their QB won't even be in the top 10...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on January 31, 2022, 04:16:05 PM

Alos make him the highest paid BC Lion... their QB won't even be in the top 10...
Their rookie Canadian QB is making 80K which gives BC plenty of cap space to maneuver.   Burnham makes 165K and Whitehead is at 200K.    It's highly unlikely he will resign with us when that kind of money is being offered.    He was originally cut loose by the Lions....however under a different coach and GM at the time.
It's ironic that we now have the best QB in the league who likely will have new receivers to get acquainted with whereas BC is betting their wad on Rourke surrounded with 3 top receivers....however his NFL aspirations are still unresolved as we speak.    It's putting us in a bind really....


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on January 31, 2022, 04:46:05 PM
13th Man Sports
@13thManSports
4h
Argos favoured to land A DE Ja'Gared Davis
A WR Kenny Lawler offered 250K by #BCLions
N OL Mark Korte offered 205K by #Elks

Not even 24 hours into the tampering period and we are seeing some big names potentially moving ahead of free agency Feb 8. #CFLFA


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on January 31, 2022, 04:58:51 PM
That has to be completely wrong... I have no doubt that the Bombers are in the $200k range to re-sign their best WR.  Suggesting they'd lowball him that much is insulting to both Lawler AND Walters...

We've asked other players to sign team friendly deals - so it honestly depends what their salary cap allotment is for their receiving core. It's not insulting; it's an expression of their stated team-building strategy to build from the lines out.

Walters has expressed that that's an area where we're going to have to save some cap space and it seems like we've delayed signing any of our receivers (I have no doubt that both Bailey and Adams would be back if we offered them fair deals, so what's the hold up?).

I expected us to offer Lawler a 165-185 contract, prepared to let him walk if he wanted to chase a high value deal.

The Lions blew high value out of the water.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on January 31, 2022, 05:08:05 PM
We probably won't be at $250,000 but I would guess we'd be in the low $200,000s with the sales pitch of playoff money, great culture and the league's best QB. Both will be competitive offers for sure.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2022, 05:29:03 PM
We probably won't be at $250,000 but I would guess we'd be in the low $200,000s with the sales pitch of playoff money, great culture and the league's best QB. Both will be competitive offers for sure.

I sure hope not, in the grand scheme of things Lawler as a singular receiver is not that important, the Bomber receivers as a group are strong enough to carry on with an adequate and affordable replacement. Caveat, it's critical that they re-sign Adams and Bailey now.

Kenny be gone.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on January 31, 2022, 05:34:54 PM
We probably won't be at $250,000 but I would guess we'd be in the low $200,000s with the sales pitch of playoff money, great culture and the league's best QB. Both will be competitive offers for sure.

I would be shocked if we offered 200.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on January 31, 2022, 05:38:31 PM
We can't keep them all, and we certainly can not hold ill will if Lawler takes a a higher offer somewhere else. I question the thought process in BC....big money receivers but minimal investment on the lines to doesn't seem like the best way to go about building....

I think Korte will be a very good pick-up (Edm. or who-ever) that's steep but IMO a far better value then Lawler or Lucky for the same or more a year, every year there are top receivers, but a potential cornerstone CDN lineman seems the way smarter investment.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: pdirks67 on January 31, 2022, 05:46:20 PM
I'd love to have Kenny Lawler back, but I wouldn't spend $250K on a receiver with all the raises we're giving out. Great for him - he should jump at the chance to make huge CFL coin!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2022, 05:50:35 PM
13th Man Sports
@13thManSports
4h
Argos favoured to land Flag of United States DE Ja'Gared Davis
A WR Kenny Lawler offered 250K by #BCLions
N OL Mark Korte offered 205K by #Elks

Not even 24 hours into the tampering period and we are seeing some big names potentially moving ahead of free agency Feb 8. #CFLFA

Once again, some teams are sending the message to the CFLPA that earnings are no problem and their wallets are flush with cash.  It then looks really bad when they sit down to negotiate a new agreement, point to empty stadiums and cry poverty.  I think the CFL is schizophrenic, they can't help but shoot themselves in the foot whenever the chance to do so presents itself.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2022, 05:55:05 PM
Their rookie Canadian QB is making 80K which gives BC plenty of cap space to maneuver.   Burnham makes 165K and Whitehead is at 200K.    It's highly unlikely he will resign with us when that kind of money is being offered.    He was originally cut loose by the Lions....however under a different coach and GM at the time.
It's ironic that we now have the best QB in the league who likely will have new receivers to get acquainted with whereas BC is betting their wad on Rourke surrounded with 3 top receivers....however his NFL aspirations are still unresolved as we speak.    It's putting us in a bind really....

I think Rourke must be earning more than $80,000, Campbell doesn't anoint him his #1 QB and not offer him better money.  I would guess $125,00-$150,000 at least, with bonus opportunities.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on January 31, 2022, 06:28:54 PM
I think Rourke must be earning more than $80,000, Campbell doesn't anoint him his #1 QB and not offer him better money.  I would guess $125,00-$150,000 at least, with bonus opportunities.
even at 150 K that's 400K less than we pay Zach.   You can afford to throw money around however their logic seems to be flawed....just a tad.    Declaring an unproven rookie as starting QB based on what....one game at the end of the season with nothing on the line?   Suspect strategy at best and what of their O-line?
It would be great to have Lawler and Bailey back but that's starting to look doubtful at the moment.....we will know by the end of the week what things will start to look like in Bomberland!  Buckle up!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: the paw on January 31, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
I think Rourke must be earning more than $80,000, Campbell doesn't anoint him his #1 QB and not offer him better money.  I would guess $125,00-$150,000 at least, with bonus opportunities.

What he probably does is anoint him the presumptive starter going into camp to build his confidence.  If he actually keeps the top job through preseason and the first game or two, then you come back to him with an extension.  The signing bonus on the extension could get him over $150k for this year, and you can probably lock him down for $250k for 2023.  After that, you have to pay him market value or he has busted out by then.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2022, 07:46:48 PM
What he probably does is anoint him the presumptive starter going into camp to build his confidence.  If he actually keeps the top job through preseason and the first game or two, then you come back to him with an extension.  The signing bonus on the extension could get him over $150k for this year, and you can probably lock him down for $250k for 2023.  After that, you have to pay him market value or he has busted out by then.

Oh yes, the old "Drew Willy trick", worked for awhile anyway, I think the Bombers shot out of the gate 5-1 in his first season.

I think BC did the same thing with Jonathan Jennings when he took over from Lulay, he sure wasn't making very much.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pete on January 31, 2022, 08:43:53 PM
Just read that Fajardo has restructured his 2022 contract, I wonder if this was done to try to sign Duke Williams, given Cody's frustrations with all other rider receivers last year


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on January 31, 2022, 11:14:28 PM
I don't understand BC's strategy in signing FA's. First they signed Reilly to a massive contract that handcuffed the team, and he didn't pan out. Now they go offering Whitehead and Lawler a boat load of money as well as resigned Burnham, and they have a Qb with only the last game of the season's experience. Hope the kid pans out as they've signed 3 big time recievers and have no backup Qb . Strange....


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2022, 11:29:36 PM
I don't understand BC's strategy in signing FA's. First they signed Reilly to a massive contract that handcuffed the team, and he didn't pan out. Now they go offering Whitehead and Lawler a boat load of money as well as resigned Burnham, and they have a Qb with only the last game of the season's experience. Hope the kid pans out as they've signed 3 big time recievers and have no backup Qb . Strange....

Arbuckle may pop loose, currently Elks battling with the RB's to sign Masoli, currently up to $400,000.  If Jones wins he will probably have to dump or trade Arbuckle, BC would be a good destination.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: the paw on January 31, 2022, 11:30:39 PM
I don't understand BC's strategy in signing FA's. First they signed Reilly to a massive contract that handcuffed the team, and he didn't pan out. Now they go offering Whitehead and Lawler a boat load of money as well as resigned Burnham, and they have a Qb with only the last game of the season's experience. Hope the kid pans out as they've signed 3 big time recievers and have no backup Qb . Strange....

I am curious as to how they plan to handle the ratio.  They released Durant, Cottoy is on NFL workouts, and Shaw Johnson is still unsigned.  They need to start 2 NTL receivers unless they change somewhere else.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dxw237 on January 31, 2022, 11:38:08 PM
BC's purported offer if correct, helps the Bombers in a way.  Bombers aren't going to pay him $250,000 or even $200,000.  Lawler will take the $250,000 or a better offer in the NFL if offered.  In any event he is gone.  The Bomber's likely budgeted for around $150,000-$165,000 for him.  They now can take a good portion of that money  to increase the amount offered to players such as Richardson, Alexander and Bailey.  Personally, I wouldn't be looking at any of the potential FA receivers especially if it's going to cost more than $100,000.  I'd rather look at bringing in a bunch of new recruits. My opinion only.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 01, 2022, 02:47:02 AM
I thought we d lose some.of.our starters to.other teams because of outrageous offers, I just didn't think.it would be BC and Lawler given his intense dislike for them when we played them, saying that game was personal..so much for.that, I guess a boat load of cash can bury a lot of hatchets.

If he does sign with BC, there are still a lot of FA receivers available to fill.the void, Greg Elingson comes to mind. I m sure he'd want the heck out of Edmonton now with Jones at.the helm and his Qb Harris traded.away. I can see him lighting it up.here big time.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 01, 2022, 03:59:18 PM
BC's purported offer if correct, helps the Bombers in a way.  Bombers aren't going to pay him $250,000 or even $200,000.  Lawler will take the $250,000 or a better offer in the NFL if offered.  In any event he is gone.  The Bomber's likely budgeted for around $150,000-$165,000 for him.  They now can take a good portion of that money  to increase the amount offered to players such as Richardson, Alexander and Bailey.  Personally, I wouldn't be looking at any of the potential FA receivers especially if it's going to cost more than $100,000.  I'd rather look at bringing in a bunch of new recruits. My opinion only.

I agree to a point.

I think after the first wave of recievers go on these big deals, there will be a secondary market for guys who need a spot to play.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 01, 2022, 04:08:17 PM
I think with Adams, Demski, Wolitarski and Bailey we will be just fine in recruiting new SMS friendly WR prospects... so lets spend a little and get Bailey signed, and I'm sure we can sign Adams as well.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 14-11-6 on February 01, 2022, 06:04:33 PM
What he probably does is anoint him the presumptive starter going into camp to build his confidence.  If he actually keeps the top job through preseason and the first game or two, then you come back to him with an extension.  The signing bonus on the extension could get him over $150k for this year, and you can probably lock him down for $250k for 2023.  After that, you have to pay him market value or he has busted out by then.

And after they scrape him off the turf they can then go out and find an O Line. I can't count the number of times Michael Reilly was clobbered cuz of the O line getting stomped. The camera would follow him off the field and you saw a dejected, sad QB who deserved better.....but as we Bomber fans know, offensive lines don't grow on trees.

Hope Kenny Lawlor keeps that in mind if he signs and waiting for a ball to catch 


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pete on February 01, 2022, 07:56:18 PM
Lawler signing with BC may not be as done a deal as it looks. The 250k sounds like a lot but its a multiyear contract thats front loaded. I don't think he will be nearly as effective in BC as he was here with the chemistry he had with Collaros where he was the number one go to reciever. His numbers might have a negative effect on any future nfl inquiries..
In BC he wil have to shre the ball with whitehead/burnham/ryhmes and with as stated above an inferior oline.
(as an aside why is it when the Bombers sign someone the salary is well known while with other team its an exception?)


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 01, 2022, 08:42:17 PM
Lawler signing with BC may not be as done a deal as it looks. The 250k sounds like a lot but its a multiyear contract thats front loaded. I don't think he will be nearly as effective in BC as he was here with the chemistry he had with Collaros where he was the number one go to reciever. His numbers might have a negative effect on any future nfl inquiries..
In BC he wil have to shre the ball with whitehead/burnham/ryhmes and with as stated above an inferior oline.
(as an aside why is it when the Bombers sign someone the salary is well known while with other team its an exception?)

If Lawler doesn't get his NFL shot this off-season, it's probably not going to happen for him.  He has to make hay while the sun shines, I don't think he will ever be offered that much money again.  That being said, he knows his opportunity to win championships will end if he walks away from the Bombers now.  Tough choice.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 01, 2022, 08:43:12 PM
Lawler signing with BC may not be as done a deal as it looks. The 250k sounds like a lot but its a multiyear contract thats front loaded. I don't think he will be nearly as effective in BC as he was here with the chemistry he had with Collaros where he was the number one go to reciever. His numbers might have a negative effect on any future nfl inquiries..
In BC he wil have to shre the ball with whitehead/burnham/ryhmes and with as stated above an inferior oline.
(as an aside why is it when the Bombers sign someone the salary is well known while with other team its an exception?)

There's certainly a strong case that the Bombers can make to retain him, including:

- Back with Collaros whom he has great chemistry
- Lower cost of living
- History of success and playoff money
- The clear number one receiver who will be the focal point of the passing game each week
- Familiarity of the city and culture

Obviously, at some point the dollars will stack up to overcome these things but if the Bombers can get close to that $200k mark then it's not so far off. Players get $3400 for a first round bye or semi-final participation, $3600 for the divisional round, $8000 for losing the Grey Cup and $16,000 for winning. Last year Lawler received $23,000 for the playoffs and the BC Lions received $0. So a $200k offer from the Bombers may result in similar take home pay when you factor in cost of living in Winnipeg verses BC and playoff money.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 01, 2022, 09:40:11 PM
G. Ellingson
@Gelliman82
6h
What?s up!?  This week is gonna be interesting in the #CFL

Lots of activity coming in the next few days. 

Hope everyone is getting as excited as I am !


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 01, 2022, 10:25:34 PM
G. Ellingson
@Gelliman82
6h
What?s up!?  This week is gonna be interesting in the #CFL

Lots of activity coming in the next few days. 

Hope everyone is getting as excited as I am !

Darrell Paquette@highexplosiveEE
Replying to
@Gelliman82
Where are you signing?


G. Ellingson@Gelliman82
Whichever team fanbase talk to me more this week? ;D


Jeff BlueBomber Fan, boosted & following protocols@aardvarkpets
Replying to
@Gelliman82
Not sure if you've heard, but WPG has the best fans, is a great city, great facility in IG Field, and has built a great culture for its team where players want to play for our coaches.  Oh, did I mention back to back GC's and an MOP QB with an all star Oline returning?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Nic16 on February 02, 2022, 02:45:29 AM
More interested in re-signing Bailey and Adams than overpaying for Ellingson.

I?d rather add a receiver who doesn?t mind getting his nose dirty in the run game.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: TBURGESS on February 02, 2022, 03:12:47 PM
Re: Cost of living. Lets say that it costs an additional $1000 a month in rent, which is high. Players are in town for 6 months so that's $6000 more that BC and Toronto have to pay players to make things even. Everything else is pretty much the same. (I moved to Vancouver from Winnipeg so I know what I'm talking about)


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 02, 2022, 03:17:48 PM
More interested in re-signing Bailey and Adams than overpaying for Ellingson.

I?d rather add a receiver who doesn?t mind getting his nose dirty in the run game.

Why not resign Adams, Bailey and Ellingson?  I think that is what people are proposing, replacing Lawler with Ellingson IF Lawler decides on BC


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 02, 2022, 03:52:15 PM
Why not resign Adams, Bailey and Ellingson?  I think that is what people are proposing, replacing Lawler with Ellingson IF Lawler decides on BC

I really think we?re out on signing an expensive FA in the receiving core.

Bring back Adams, hope for McKnight?s continued development, and bring in a ton of bodies for TC like we did with DBs last year.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 02, 2022, 04:07:38 PM
Re: Cost of living. Lets say that it costs an additional $1000 a month in rent, which is high. Players are in town for 6 months so that's $6000 more that BC and Toronto have to pay players to make things even. Everything else is pretty much the same. (I moved to Vancouver from Winnipeg so I know what I'm talking about)

It's not just rent. Cost of living usually refers to a host of things not simply rent/shelter costs. You wanna go out to eat? Costs more in Vancouver. Your grocery store bill? More expensive. These guys aren't exactly eating cheap prepacked stuff either. After a quick Google:

Consumer Prices in Vancouver are 7.67% higher than in Winnipeg (without rent)
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Vancouver are 31.72% higher than in Winnipeg
Rent Prices in Vancouver are 100.33% higher than in Winnipeg
Restaurant Prices in Vancouver are 21.65% higher than in Winnipeg
Groceries Prices in Vancouver are 12.31% higher than in Winnipeg
Local Purchasing Power in Vancouver is 12.20% lower than in Winnipeg

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Winnipeg&country2=Canada&city2=Vancouver


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 02, 2022, 04:10:01 PM
I really think we?re out on signing an expensive FA in the receiving core.

Bring back Adams, hope for McKnight?s continued development, and bring in a ton of bodies for TC like we did with DBs last year.

It all depends on how the WR price range develops... with Lucky and Lawler setting the high water mark, will that create higher prices for all FA's, or does it eat up a bunch of the $$$ allocated to WR's in total?  

How many "top" WR's will reach FA, and how many "seasoned vets" will take a value contract to keep playing.  

There have to be a lot of guys at the "If I don't get X$, I'm hanging them up", but how many vets are at the point "If I can get a contract, with some incentives, I want to play another year"?  And if there are guys like that out there, where do THEY want to land?  In a place with a great Oline, a MOP QB and a fantastic culture?  


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 4everalonghair on February 02, 2022, 04:35:20 PM
Ed Gainey has tweeted he won't be back in Regina next year.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 02, 2022, 05:45:42 PM
It all depends on how the WR price range develops... with Lucky and Lawler setting the high water mark, will that create higher prices for all FA's, or does it eat up a bunch of the $$$ allocated to WR's in total?  

How many "top" WR's will reach FA, and how many "seasoned vets" will take a value contract to keep playing.  

There have to be a lot of guys at the "If I don't get X$, I'm hanging them up", but how many vets are at the point "If I can get a contract, with some incentives, I want to play another year"?  And if there are guys like that out there, where do THEY want to land?  In a place with a great Oline, a MOP QB and a fantastic culture?  

I believe it's possible we'll get a secondary market guy. Depending on the value vs.  what we already have on the roster.

But whenever someone throws out the name of a Lawler replacement, it's always one of the high money guys. I don't think that is in the cards. Our Lawler replacement is Bailey.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: TBURGESS on February 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
It's not just rent. Cost of living usually refers to a host of things not simply rent/shelter costs. You wanna go out to eat? Costs more in Vancouver. Your grocery store bill? More expensive. These guys aren't exactly eating cheap prepacked stuff either. After a quick Google:

Consumer Prices in Vancouver are 7.67% higher than in Winnipeg (without rent)
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Vancouver are 31.72% higher than in Winnipeg
Rent Prices in Vancouver are 100.33% higher than in Winnipeg
Restaurant Prices in Vancouver are 21.65% higher than in Winnipeg
Groceries Prices in Vancouver are 12.31% higher than in Winnipeg
Local Purchasing Power in Vancouver is 12.20% lower than in Winnipeg

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Winnipeg&country2=Canada&city2=Vancouver
Thanks for the data. It's interesting.

Rent is the big difference @ 100% higher. The groceries and Restaurant prices don't match my experience, but I'm not doubting them.

Lets call it an additional $500 a month, so 1500*6=$9000.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GCn19 on February 02, 2022, 07:34:39 PM
Thanks for the data. It's interesting.

Rent is the big difference @ 100% higher. The groceries and Restaurant prices don't match my experience, but I'm not doubting them.

Lets call it an additional $500 a month, so 1500*6=$9000.

500 a month doesn't cover the difference in rent....soooo let's not call it that.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 02, 2022, 07:35:02 PM
I believe it's possible we'll get a secondary market guy. Depending on the value vs.  what we already have on the roster.

But whenever someone throws out the name of a Lawler replacement, it's always one of the high money guys. I don't think that is in the cards. Our Lawler replacement is Bailey.

I don't know about that, Bailey is a good solid receiver and great on the sweeps, but I saw little evidence that he can win one on one battles or contort gravity to make the big catches. Lawler is one step above him and I don't think those skills are easily acquired, you have them or you don't.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 02, 2022, 07:49:54 PM
I don't know about that, Bailey is a good solid receiver and great on the sweeps, but I saw little evidence that he can win one on one battles or contort gravity to make the big catches. Lawler is one step above him and I don't think those skills are easily acquired, you have them or you don't.
what I liked about Bailey was his second effort after catching the ball....shows good speed on those sweeps as well....but yeah he's not a jump baller like Lawler nor can he make those leaping, diving and twisting in mid air catches.   


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: the paw on February 02, 2022, 08:07:34 PM
I don't know about that, Bailey is a good solid receiver and great on the sweeps, but I saw little evidence that he can win one on one battles or contort gravity to make the big catches. Lawler is one step above him and I don't think those skills are easily acquired, you have them or you don't.

Ellingson has the ability to make those kind of grabs.  We definitely need a guy to go up and get contested balls.  But, said receiver doesn't have to hit the same overall production as Lawler.  I think Bailey could get more targets this year, as could Wolitarsky. If Adams returns and stays healthy, he could definitely get more targets than last year. 

If Brescanin wasn't such a band-aid, he would be the right kind of skill set to add to this receiving corps. 


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 02, 2022, 09:22:48 PM
Looks like Ed Gainey is done with the Riders, headed for the Elks or the exit door?


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Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 02, 2022, 09:30:14 PM
ED is a good DB, but he takes way to many bad penalties.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: TBURGESS on February 02, 2022, 09:33:52 PM
500 a month doesn't cover the difference in rent....soooo let's not call it that.
That's why I used $1000 as the difference for rent + an additional $500 for the groceries and restaurants. Seems to me that you're just making things up to complain about.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 03, 2022, 01:52:40 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats have signed American defensive lineman Dylan Wynn to a two-year contract extension through the 2023 season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 03, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
Riders announce that they have re-signed American LB Larry Dean.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 03, 2022, 05:42:28 PM
Lions signed WR Crockett that was in our TC last year. He's the 2nd Bomber TC receiver they are bringing. Adarius Stewart was the other one.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 03, 2022, 05:46:03 PM
Lions signed WR Crockett that was in our TC last year. He's the 2nd Bomber TC receiver they are bringing.

Rigmadien's guys.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 03, 2022, 05:51:52 PM
Rigmadien's guys.

No doubt. It does suggest they aren't really expecting to land Lawler. He may have told them he plans to further look at an NFL opportunity. He's a free agent on Feb 8th and can take longer to look if he chooses.

If he returns later in 2022 he may have less CFL options dues to SMS available and teams needing a receiver. Especially true on 1 year deals if a team is not looking to make playoffs for example.

Something like W. Rose being able to return late to the Bombers obviously projected to be a GC contender. Also easier to come with with an SMS to cover 3 regular season games.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 03, 2022, 07:15:11 PM
Elks OL Matt O'Donnell has called it a career in the CFL.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GCn19 on February 03, 2022, 07:39:31 PM
That's why I used $1000 as the difference for rent + an additional $500 for the groceries and restaurants. Seems to me that you're just making things up to complain about.

Nope...just missed the part where you differentiated rent and other expenses. 1500-2000 dollars a month seems about right overall.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 04, 2022, 04:26:25 PM
Judge traded to Calgary.

https://3downnation.com/2022/02/04/trade-and-sign-argos-send-canadian-lb-cameron-judge-to-stampeders-for-national-db-royce-metchie/


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 04, 2022, 04:50:33 PM
A player the Argo's overpaid for and under performed.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pete on February 04, 2022, 04:57:55 PM
I do admire through the argos ability to get in front of free agency period, last year they did the same with Rogers and Richards...oddly enough with the Stamps then too.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 04, 2022, 05:41:05 PM
Lapo got his QB - Masoli signs in Ottawa


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 04, 2022, 05:44:02 PM
Lapo got his QB - Masoli signs in Ottawa

Did he get traded to Ottawa? He wasn't a free agent until Feb 8th?? If he got traded, who went the other direction to Hamilton?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 04, 2022, 05:44:49 PM
Did he get traded to Ottawa? He wasn't a free agent until Feb 8th?? If he got traded, who went the other direction to Hamilton?

They've "agreed to terms".

It wont be official until the 8th.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 04, 2022, 05:46:04 PM
But this surprises me.

It was put out there that Edmonton and Ottawa were both bidding and why would you go to Ottawa if you had an alterative?

Must have been a major salary difference.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 04, 2022, 05:49:53 PM
But this surprises me.

It was put out there that Edmonton and Ottawa were both bidding and why would you go to Ottawa if you had an alterative?

Must have been a major salary difference.

Probably connection with the GM and away from heavy-competition in the West Division


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 04, 2022, 06:01:23 PM
Lapo got his QB - Masoli signs in Ottawa

Harris to BC and Streveler back in Blue and Gold.  Works for me.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 04, 2022, 06:32:34 PM
Harris to BC and Streveler back in Blue and Gold.  Works for me.

I would say BC might have interest also and Edm might turn their eyes to Strevy now.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 04, 2022, 06:47:47 PM
I would say BC might have interest also and Edm might turn their eyes to Strevy now.

Then Arbuckle here would be fine, or Harris as the #2.  Have a feeling Strevy is back on a one year deal though.

Maybe that is where the Harris money is going?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jets on February 04, 2022, 07:23:26 PM
Edmonton has Arbuckle, Cornelius and Prukop that would all be upgrades at backup QB for us. They're already going to have to sign one to the PR if they want to keep all 3 and if they add another QB there's going to be some decent guys shaking loose...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 04, 2022, 07:30:37 PM
If Strevy is not coming back, I would like Cornelius as a backup. The guy can sling it and can run also. He would fit the role Strevy was doing when he was here.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GCn19 on February 04, 2022, 07:31:47 PM
But this surprises me.

It was put out there that Edmonton and Ottawa were both bidding and why would you go to Ottawa if you had an alterative?

Must have been a major salary difference.

Because Chris Jones doesn't care about his offence and you will get almost zero support from him.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GCn19 on February 04, 2022, 07:33:11 PM
Edmonton has Arbuckle, Cornelius and Prukop that would all be upgrades at backup QB for us. They're already going to have to sign one to the PR if they want to keep all 3 and if they add another QB there's going to be some decent guys shaking loose...

Arbuckle will be their guy. They aren't bringing anyone in. Jones will spend all his time and craft on building his defence.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 04, 2022, 08:28:25 PM
Arbuckle will be their guy. They aren't bringing anyone in. Jones will spend all his time and craft on building his defence.

They signed JT Barrett, a QB that had been on their neg list since Jones was there before... I'd be surprised if he didn't get a long look if he shows up to camp... 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._T._Barrett

Career history
As player
2018?2019   New Orleans Saints*
2019   Seattle Seahawks*
2019   New Orleans Saints*
2019?2020   Pittsburgh Steelers*
2020   TSL Alphas
2022?present   Edmonton Elks


Career highlights and awards
    CFP National Champion (2015)
    Chicago Tribune Silver Football (2016)
    3? Griese?Brees Quarterback of the Year (2014, 2016, 2017)
    3? First Team All-Big Ten (2014, 2016, 2017)
    Third-team All-American (2014)
    Thompson?Randle El Freshman of the Year (2014)
    Offensive MVP of the 2016 Fiesta Bowl
    Offensive MVP of the 2017 Cotton Bowl


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 04, 2022, 10:08:53 PM
They signed JT Barrett, a QB that had been on their neg list since Jones was there before... I'd be surprised if he didn't get a long look if he shows up to camp... 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._T._Barrett

Career history
As player
2018?2019   New Orleans Saints*
2019   Seattle Seahawks*
2019   New Orleans Saints*
2019?2020   Pittsburgh Steelers*
2020   TSL Alphas
2022?present   Edmonton Elks


Career highlights and awards
    CFP National Champion (2015)
    Chicago Tribune Silver Football (2016)
    3? Griese?Brees Quarterback of the Year (2014, 2016, 2017)
    3? First Team All-Big Ten (2014, 2016, 2017)
    Third-team All-American (2014)
    Thompson?Randle El Freshman of the Year (2014)
    Offensive MVP of the 2016 Fiesta Bowl
    Offensive MVP of the 2017 Cotton Bowl

Doesn't mean much. Many QB's come to the CFL with impressive credentials and fail. Others with less impressive credentials succeed. The biggest issue is that rookie don't usually win the starting role coming out of TC. Getting the starting role is often a matter of luck when an opportunity occurs due to injury. If you only make the roster as a # 3 QB then it's even more difficult to move from PR to AR.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 04, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
They signed JT Barrett, a QB that had been on their neg list since Jones was there before... I'd be surprised if he didn't get a long look if he shows up to camp... 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._T._Barrett

Career history
As player
2018?2019   New Orleans Saints*
2019   Seattle Seahawks*
2019   New Orleans Saints*
2019?2020   Pittsburgh Steelers*
2020   TSL Alphas
2022?present   Edmonton Elks


Career highlights and awards
    CFP National Champion (2015)
    Chicago Tribune Silver Football (2016)
    3? Griese?Brees Quarterback of the Year (2014, 2016, 2017)
    3? First Team All-Big Ten (2014, 2016, 2017)
    Third-team All-American (2014)
    Thompson?Randle El Freshman of the Year (2014)
    Offensive MVP of the 2016 Fiesta Bowl
    Offensive MVP of the 2017 Cotton Bowl

He doesn't have the arm strength to be a starter. He's coming in as a potential athletic #2  to use as a Streveler-light.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 05, 2022, 05:45:35 AM
Ottawa signs Boateng, seems like a good price for a ratio breaking DE, it would have been nice to get him to replace Kongbo.

Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
Kwaku Boateng?s deal with #RedBlacks also done. 1 year, 150k hard, 160k all in. Will be reunited with @Coach__Bene with whom he had his most success. @CFLonTSN #CFLFA
Tim Baines
@TimCBaines


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 05, 2022, 06:03:15 AM
So far it's been the average CFL FA. Eastern teams make the big moves. That being said, in my opinion, Ottawa got QB1 with solid developmental pieces, Hamilton added Johnson along with Wynn to have a deadly DT duo and Toronto got one of the best Canadian DBs in the CFL so good for them. Bombers are top of the class so the movement and improvement is a welcome challenge imo. I'm intrigued to see what the Bombers do


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 05, 2022, 12:02:32 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats have signed veteran defensive tackle Micah Johnson to a one-year contract.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 05, 2022, 01:14:41 PM
Hammy seems to be building a pretty good defence for 2022


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 02:20:51 PM
Lots of news of players going east but nothing about players going west except the Calgary trade with Toronto.

We haven't heard more about whether Lawler is going to accept the BC offer, continue his NFL effort or return to Winnipeg. Teams will need to decide to hold or spend whatever SMS they have put aside for him.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 05, 2022, 02:55:30 PM
Lots of news of players going east but nothing about players going west except the Calgary trade with Toronto.

We haven't heard more about whether Lawler is going to accept the BC offer, continue his NFL effort or return to Winnipeg. Teams will need to decide to hold or spend whatever SMS they have put aside for him.
was thinking along the same line ....it also applies to the Andrew Harris situation albeit it's slightly more complicated with 3-4 running backs on our team....all Canadians!   I know, as a team we can obviously move forward without Andrew yet I would really hate to see him leave for another team.    I know Lawler is also not easily replaced either....and I'd hate to see him leave for BC who would basically break the bank as far as CFL offers go for a receiver.....even if he was a CFL all star!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 05, 2022, 03:14:16 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats have signed veteran defensive tackle Micah Johnson to a one-year contract.

On boy, Riders will be going all out to sign Stove, hopefully he doesn't want to live in Regina and rejects their offer.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 05, 2022, 03:20:04 PM
On boy, Riders will be going all out to sign Stove, hopefully he doesn't want to live in Regina and rejects their offer.
Man....that would suck.   He was a beast for us and not sure why he wasn't a priority?   Totally underrated imho!   Anyone care to comment on this?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 05, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
Man....that would suck.   He was a beast for us and not sure why he wasn't a priority?   Totally underrated imho!   Anyone care to comment on this?
I would Stove in Green would suck! Are we sure is not already signed with us? He was key last year.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: the paw on February 05, 2022, 04:25:27 PM
Man....that would suck.   He was a beast for us and not sure why he wasn't a priority?   Totally underrated imho!   Anyone care to comment on this?

I think Walters has a budget for his defensive line, and the big money went to the DEs.  Historically, we haven?t spent heavy at DT.  They let Drake Nevis (who was very effective) fo in free agency, and the contract before, they had let him test free agency before finally re-signing him.  Before Nevis, we let Euclid Cummings go in free agency.  (Which was a good thing because he turned out to be a pervert).  Anyway, it?s not a position we spend heavily on.

Although the TiCats are making a play for Micah, it looks like they are losing Jagred Davis.  So they are spending on the interior.

I think Sayles and Rose showed well when Stove was out with injury, so while I would rather have him than not, it is a loss we can survive.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 05, 2022, 04:36:27 PM
We have spent big on DE's, we have Thomas at DT, and have never seemed to have an issue recruiting Int DT's... Love the heat the stove brings, but Saoles and Rose are darned good value.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2022, 04:38:20 PM
Ricky Walker was another DT that played when Stove was injured.  He had 8 tackles and 1 sack, in limited time.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 05:28:39 PM
Redblacks are rumoured to be signing: Boateng, N. Levi and William Powell plus a few other players on the free agent list.  If they do get Powell that negates the idea of either A. Harris or Oliveria going there to start.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2022, 05:35:13 PM
We have spent big on DE's, we have Thomas at DT, and have never seemed to have an issue recruiting Int DT's... Love the heat the stove brings, but Saoles and Rose are darned good value.



Who is this Rose guy?? Are you talking about Ezekiel Rose who played in one game for the Bombers and didn't record a tackle.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 05:37:01 PM
Who is this Rose guy?? Are you talking about Ezekiel Rose who played in one game for the Bombers and didn't record a tackle.

He got injured early in the 1st Q of his 1st game. Whether he has talent or not is not known quite yet. He's on the potential free agent so not even sure he gets re-signed for TC.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2022, 05:38:01 PM
Redblacks are rumoured to be signing: Boateng, N. Levi and William Powell plus a few other players on the free agent list.  If they do get Powell that negates the idea of either A. Harris or Oliveria going there to start.

I could see that happening. As much as the Rider fans hate AH33, they will love him if he's wearing Green and White.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 05, 2022, 05:43:54 PM
We have spent big on DE's, we have Thomas at DT, and have never seemed to have an issue recruiting Int DT's... Love the heat the stove brings, but Saoles and Rose are darned good value.


Sayles yes. Rose got injured in his first game and is a pending FA. Maybe thinking of Ricky Walker?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2022, 05:48:43 PM
Sayles yes. Rose got injured in his first game and is a pending FA. Maybe thinking of Ricky Walker?

That's what I was saying. Walker played limited time in 7 games and had 8 tackles and 1 sack. I mean Jojo Wicker has the same stats as Rose.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 05, 2022, 05:51:35 PM
Riders sign Duke for 260. Do they have the $$$$ for Harris?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 05, 2022, 05:52:51 PM
Riders sign Duke for 260. Do they have the $$$$ for Harris?

They have lots of cash.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 05:56:27 PM
They have lots of cash.

That's nuts. IIRC he got $270 in 2019 from the Argos. Took a cut like everybody else for 2021. That should make him the highest paid non QB?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 05, 2022, 05:58:25 PM
That's nuts. IIRC he got $270 in 2019 from the Argos. Took a cut like everybody else for 2021. That should make him the highest paid non QB?

GMs are breaking the receiver market in the same way they broke the QB market.

Just insane dollars.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 05, 2022, 05:59:15 PM
$260K to poke eyes and spit on players.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 05, 2022, 06:13:07 PM
Saskatchewan Roughriders have re-signed star receiver Duke Williams to a one-year contract for the 2022 season.

Williams fresh pact will pay him $260,000 in hard money.

There were a lot of teams involved with big cash on the table.

He had other offers for more dollars up to $300,000 but ultimately felt like the Riders can win the Grey Cup which would fulfill his goal of winning a CFL championship.

Assume it was the Elks or Argos that offered $300K.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 05, 2022, 06:18:39 PM
He had other offers for more dollars ? up to $300,000 ? but ultimately felt like the Riders can win the Grey Cup which would fulfill his goal of winning a CFL championship.

Yeah, none of that sounds believable.

EDIT: on second thought, I think the Lions would've been dumb enough to offer Williams $300K.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 06:19:17 PM
Saskatchewan Roughriders have re-signed star receiver Duke Williams to a one-year contract for the 2022 season.

Williams? fresh pact will pay him $260,000 in hard money.

There were a lot of teams involved with big cash on the table.

He had other offers for more dollars ? up to $300,000 ? but ultimately felt like the Riders can win the Grey Cup which would fulfill his goal of winning a CFL championship.

Riders are also losing some important talent. Over spending on players won't help replace that talent lost. Look at what happened with the Lions in 2019 -2021.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 05, 2022, 06:19:36 PM
Wow, that?s sad, when an a hole like that can get that type of money. Truly sad. The world has gone crazy.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pete on February 05, 2022, 06:32:32 PM
Riders are also losing some important talent. Over spending on players won't help replace that talent lost. Look at what happened with the Lions in 2019 -2021.

Don't think the riders will run short of money. as mentioned on previous thread with this being a grey cup in Sask. they will likely spend over the cap to get her done. I expect them to take a run at Harris and Richardson.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 05, 2022, 06:44:20 PM
Don't think the riders will run short of money. as mentioned on previous thread with this being a grey cup in Sask. they will likely spend over the cap to get her done. I expect them to take a run at Harris and Richardson.

Well, $260k for the Duke kinda blew that idea...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Don't think the riders will run short of money. as mentioned on previous thread with this being a grey cup in Sask. they will likely spend over the cap to get her done. I expect them to take a run at Harris and Richardson.

When has any team over spent the SMS in order to win a Grey Cup and how did that work out for them? Answer: IIRC it's never happened. Funny how some posters think we've got little money left against our SMS but the Riders can spend $260K on a player with no problem.

We'll see how many of their remaining free agents they can bring back. It's a big list of talent that will be expensive: Gainey, Purefoy to name a couple of expensive players.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 05, 2022, 07:12:06 PM
They have lots of cash.

Do they?  With the Regina Tax and having to over pay for guys like Fajardo and Duke they need to cut back somewhere.  Although that o-line is probably pretty cheap seeing how crappy they are.  They are likely going cheap and inexperienced in the d backfield as well.  Maybe they take a run at Harris , he will get stuffed like a twice baked potato all season long behind that o-line though.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pete on February 05, 2022, 07:30:42 PM
Was reported earlier that it's likely Gainey won't be resigned


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 05, 2022, 07:50:39 PM
Gainey was not offered a contract and is most likely going back to the Elks.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 05, 2022, 07:51:12 PM
Riders have no interest in AH.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 05, 2022, 07:51:38 PM
Was reported earlier that it's likely Gainey won't be resigned


Or that Hangry guy who was likely their best player on the back end.  They will get lit up like a 99 year old?s birthday cake.  Would not surprise me to see the Riders in 4th or lower this season in the West.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 05, 2022, 07:53:42 PM
When has any team over spent the SMS in order to win a Grey Cup and how did that work out for them? Answer: IIRC it's never happened. Funny how some posters think we've got little money left against our SMS but the Riders can spend $260K on a player with no problem.

We'll see how many of their remaining free agents they can bring back. It's a big list of talent that will be expensive: Gainey, Purefoy to name a couple of expensive players.

2013 Riders went over the cap iirc.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 05, 2022, 08:09:41 PM
Edmonton Elks have signed receiver Derel Walker to a one-year contract extension for the 2022 season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: the paw on February 05, 2022, 08:22:36 PM
Assuming Lawler is gone, finding a top receiver to replace him is starting to look daunting.  Derel Walker, Duke, Begelton, Lucky, Burnham, Dunbar, Weineke, Acklin, Shaq Evans all look to be off the table.

Assuming we don?t want a fading star like Banks, it is starting to look like Ambles, Ricky Collins, Josh Huff and Ellington are the remaining pool.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 08:33:01 PM
2013 Riders went over the cap iirc.

Yes but not by much which was suggested by some media to spend lots and lots and lots to win the Grey Cup.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 05, 2022, 08:54:24 PM
Yes but not by much which was suggested by some media to spend lots and lots and lots to win the Grey Cup.

Over is over,  can?t be a little bit pregnant as Milt would say.  Cheaters!!!!!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 05, 2022, 08:57:56 PM
When has any team over spent the SMS in order to win a Grey Cup and how did that work out for them? Answer: IIRC it's never happened. Funny how some posters think we've got little money left against our SMS but the Riders can spend $260K on a player with no problem.

We'll see how many of their remaining free agents they can bring back. It's a big list of talent that will be expensive: Gainey, Purefoy to name a couple of expensive players.

I think you over estimate the amount of years that teams have paid any attention to the cap at all. It?s a relatively new concept.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 09:03:19 PM
I think you over estimate the amount of years that teams have paid any attention to the cap at all. It?s a relatively new concept.

Since the SMS has been in the CFL only a couple of teams have gone over. Nobody has lost a draft choice for going over by $100K. I don't think anybody has gone over by more than $15K? Managing a $5.2M SMS is difficult.

When a key player has an early signing bonus and than injured in TC that is against the SMS and could be $100K or more. It's happened a few times to QB's for example.

Or deciding to take a player like A. Harris off the 6 game early and end up with salary against the SMS.

Bombers won the Grey Cup twice. Did they go over in either year?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2022, 11:12:55 PM
Elks sign Charles Nelson and retain Derel Walker.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 06, 2022, 12:42:55 AM
Nelson was a little disappointing. Had a number of great opportunities with the bomber, but could make anything of them.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 06, 2022, 01:39:48 AM
Nelson was a little disappointing. Had a number of great opportunities with the bomber, but could make anything of them.
Think it's good for both sides he moved on. Obviously something wasn't working here


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 06, 2022, 03:20:26 AM
When has any team over spent the SMS in order to win a Grey Cup and how did that work out for them? Answer: IIRC it's never happened. Funny how some posters think we've got little money left against our SMS but the Riders can spend $260K on a player with no problem.

We'll see how many of their remaining free agents they can bring back. It's a big list of talent that will be expensive: Gainey, Purefoy to name a couple of expensive players.


Pretty certain I recall that the 2013 Riders pushed all their chips in (ie: went over the cap) during the 2013 season for that home Grey Cup. I remember they lost a ton a players that off season going into 2014 to get back under the cap. Two years later (2015) they were a 3 and 15 team. So if anything it's a short term deal and not a long term building strategy like the Bombers appear to have underway.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 06, 2022, 03:30:56 AM
Elks sign Charles Nelson and retain Derel Walker.

The "Full" Nelson never really busted loose with the Bombers. Held onto the ball well (did not have fumbleitus), but no threat to ever bust a kick. As far as receiving not sure he got much of a look on the field with our regular starters.

Walker better have a bounce back year as he was atrocious last season.

Best FA receiver I think still out there would be Elingson. Does he not play outside receiver and not in the interior though.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 06, 2022, 03:53:23 AM
Walker is done, Edmonton must be desperate if they?re bringing him back. Atrocious is right.

Would be nice to get Ellington here, proven vet with a great set of hands and makes the big play.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 06, 2022, 03:49:39 PM
Veteran 31 year old defensive back Ed Gainey has agreed to terms with the Edmonton Elks, rejoining Chris Jones.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: bluebeard on February 06, 2022, 04:29:30 PM
It appears that the Riders are getting rid of their older, expensive players or in the case of Purifoy...an outside distraction.  Would seem, also with all the new players they signed last season, that they are rebuilding that team with younger cheaper players.  Goes against, what everyone is saying because of GC in Regina this year.  O'Day appears to be a different cat, except for paying big bucks for Duke Williams.  Lets see what happens on Feb. 8th and if they hit free agency hard.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 06, 2022, 04:30:06 PM
It appears that the Riders are getting rid of their older, expensive players or in the case of Purifoy...an outside distraction.  Would seem, also with all the new players they signed last season, that they are rebuilding that team with younger cheaper players.  Goes against, what everyone is saying because of GC in Regina this year.  O'Day appears to be a different cat, except for paying big bucks for Duke Williams.  Lets see what happens on Feb. 8th and if they hit free agency hard.

And it seems like Jones is picking them all up, lol.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: bluebeard on February 06, 2022, 04:37:38 PM
Purifoy apparently signing in BC.  Seems like the Lions are spending a pile of money this season.  They could be serious contenders if they improve their OL and get Rourke playing well.  Lots to ask.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 06, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
Purifoy apparently signing in BC.  Seems like the Lions are spending a pile of money this season.  They could be serious contenders if they improve their OL and get Rourke playing well.  Lots to ask.

A QB with so little experience. He may become a good QB in time but that's a very large step for his 2nd year and so little playing time. Yes their OL is still a mess.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 06, 2022, 06:17:10 PM
A QB with so little experience. He may become a good QB in time but that's a very large step for his 2nd year and so little playing time. Yes their OL is still a mess.
Walters built the Bombers fro the trenches....seems like BC is going about it in exactly the opposite manner.    Their O-Line allowed too many hits on Reilly and he ended up retiring.....not sure they can win using this strategy.    I remember MOS handing the QB reins over to an unproven Willy and that was an unmitigated disaster....until we picked up Matt Nichols who provided some stability at this position.    If Rourke prevails it will be the first time since Russ Jackson that a Canadian starting QB was a success.    That's over half a century ago....and I mean I wish him well but it would be precedent setting if he made it throughout an entire season as their starter.   


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 06, 2022, 06:50:59 PM
A team rises and falls with its Qb. Yes Rourke looked good in the last no nothing game of the season, but if he?s so good, why didn?t he see a snap earlier in the season when Reilly was stinking the joint out??? Ya, BC is spending a ton on receivers, but somebody should tell the GM, you need a good OL and then a reliable Qb to get your receivers the ball before you spend a ton on your receivers.

 Carts before the horse on the left coast and they will crash and burn this year yet again.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 06, 2022, 06:51:32 PM
Ottawa Redblacks have agreed to terms with offensive lineman Ucambre Williams on one-year contract for the 2022 season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 06, 2022, 08:21:51 PM
Calgary Stampeders have re-signed American defensive back Jonathan Moxey.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: the paw on February 06, 2022, 08:49:25 PM
Walters built the Bombers fro the trenches....seems like BC is going about it in exactly the opposite manner.    Their O-Line allowed too many hits on Reilly and he ended up retiring.....not sure they can win using this strategy.    I remember MOS handing the QB reins over to an unproven Willy and that was an unmitigated disaster....until we picked up Matt Nichols who provided some stability at this position.    If Rourke prevails it will be the first time since Russ Jackson that a Canadian starting QB was a success.    That's over half a century ago....and I mean I wish him well but it would be precedent setting if he made it throughout an entire season as their starter.   

BC may be okay on the offensive line (or at least better).  They have re-signed Chung and Figueroa (who was hurt a lot last year), as well as extending Philip Norman.  They also have Broxton coming back, who was making a case for an OT spot but got injured.  At the same time, they have let Hunter Steward and Ryker Matthews walk, one because he was mediocre, the other due to concussion. 

I think they may be moving on from Godber at centre, and will slot Phillip Norman in there, where he had some success in 2019.  They can do this because they start 2 Canadian linebackers on D, and it sounds like they are making a play for David Menard to give them another Canuck on the d-line.  With Cottoy and Shaq Johnson back, they only need two Canadians for the 0-line.  If they end up starting a Canadian at RB (which is also rumoured) they they have 8 Cdn starters and only 2 them are offensive linemen. 

Don't get me wrong, Rourke still has a big hill to climb in terms of being ready, but I think his protection will be better this year than it was for Reilly last year. 


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 06, 2022, 09:39:25 PM
BC may be okay on the offensive line (or at least better).  They have re-signed Chung and Figueroa (who was hurt a lot last year), as well as extending Philip Norman.  They also have Broxton coming back, who was making a case for an OT spot but got injured.  At the same time, they have let Hunter Steward and Ryker Matthews walk, one because he was mediocre, the other due to concussion. 

I think they may be moving on from Godber at centre, and will slot Phillip Norman in there, where he had some success in 2019.  They can do this because they start 2 Canadian linebackers on D, and it sounds like they are making a play for David Menard to give them another Canuck on the d-line.  With Cottoy and Shaq Johnson back, they only need two Canadians for the 0-line.  If they end up starting a Canadian at RB (which is also rumoured) they they have 8 Cdn starters and only 2 them are offensive linemen. 

Don't get me wrong, Rourke still has a big hill to climb in terms of being ready, but I think his protection will be better this year than it was for Reilly last year. 
. For Rourkes sake I hope so....it will be interesting who BC signs for their backup QB


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 06, 2022, 10:29:19 PM
Toronto Argonauts and Canadian receiver Juwan Brescacin have reached an agreement on a new deal.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 07, 2022, 02:26:05 AM
Toronto Argonauts and Canadian receiver Juwan Brescacin have reached an agreement on a new deal.

Have to keep a keen eye on those Argos, they could sign a half dozen F.A. receivers and still be looking to scoop up Lawler.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 07, 2022, 02:54:50 AM
Lawler could have more then BC making him an offer.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 07, 2022, 02:11:00 PM
Lawler could have more then BC making him an offer.

He absolutely does. Probably had initial offers from most teams.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 07, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
He absolutely does. Probably had initial offers from most teams.

Sure but he's had 10 days to speak or hear from every team. We've seen many players accept an offer and sign elsewhere. Is there an advantage waiting until tomorrow? IMO Lawler has not yet decided to give up on his NFL dream. In theory he can wait. OTOH money available may be reduced or gone as teams make decisions elsewhere.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 07, 2022, 02:28:11 PM
Sure but he's had 10 days to speak or hear from every team. We've seen many players accept an offer and sign elsewhere. Is there an advantage waiting until tomorrow? IMO Lawler has not yet decided to give up on his NFL dream. In theory he can wait. OTOH money available may be reduced or gone as teams make decisions elsewhere.

There are two options: he's waiting on the NFL or he has agreed to terms and it simply hasn't leaked yet.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 4everalonghair on February 07, 2022, 04:41:32 PM
Dave Naylor reporting the elks and lions fighting for Lawler with the elks at 300k!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 07, 2022, 04:44:34 PM
300k.....for a receiver.....300k...Lawler can play but no receiver should be anywhere near that....300k I just can't grasp this....Maybe for a star LT or DE but for a receiver...really.....


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 07, 2022, 04:49:56 PM
300k.....for a receiver.....300k...Lawler can play but no receiver should be anywhere near that....300k I just can't grasp this....Maybe for a star LT or DE but for a receiver...really.....
well the Bombers won't be in the picture because they just can't afford him.....however they haven't rushed out to find a decent replacement for him either.   Times a wastin' as they say!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 07, 2022, 04:50:59 PM
Dave Naylor reporting the elks and lions fighting for Lawler with the elks at 300k!

I can't understand why BC would be bidding, there are only 5 receiver spots and they already have Lucky, Burnham, Cottoy and Rhymes signed.  Plus they have a rookie QB and only one football to throw.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 07, 2022, 04:52:02 PM
I can't understand why BC would be bidding, there are only 5 receiver spots and they already have Lucky, Burnham, Cottoy and Rhymes signed.  Plus they have a rookie QB and only one football to throw.
Strange things happen in the CFL....


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 07, 2022, 04:55:27 PM
well the Bombers won't be in the picture because they just can't afford him.....however they haven't rushed out to find a decent replacement for him either.   Times a wastin' as they say!

You do understand:

A: FA season is Not open yet

B: Reports of offers and signed deals are leaks from players / teams

C:  Walters tends not to work that way.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 07, 2022, 04:57:18 PM
well the Bombers won't be in the picture because they just can't afford him.....however they haven't rushed out to find a decent replacement for him either.   Times a wastin' as they say!
We don't know that, free agency hasn't opened yet.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 07, 2022, 05:19:16 PM
We don't know that, free agency hasn't opened yet.

While technically true, we've passed the tampering period and many players have agreed to terms already.

So replacements, such as they are, are slim pickings.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 07, 2022, 05:44:32 PM
While technically true, we've passed the tampering period and many players have agreed to terms already.

So replacements, such as they are, are slim pickings.

Are they?  While some players have declared (and teams) that deals are done... many have not... this is gamblin time for players/teams/agents... does demand go up or down.  Do prices go up or down. 

Walters plays very close to his vest in these games...

And, in the past, has managed to land what turned out to be some pretty awesome bargains...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: DM83 on February 07, 2022, 05:50:29 PM
Isn't that close to the "vest?"  always wondered on that...:)


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 08, 2022, 01:21:02 AM
300k.....for a receiver.....300k...Lawler can play but no receiver should be anywhere near that....300k I just can't grasp this....Maybe for a star LT or DE but for a receiver...really.....
Well we thought $200k for Lucky was nuts, and the burnham grabbed $260, and now Lawler $300. Agree, totally over the top redonkulous!!! No reciever is worth that, none.

We re trying to find ways and means of keeping Harris in blue and gold and Elks offer $300k, go ahead, take him. We ll scoop Ellingson for half that and roll on like nothing ever happened.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 08, 2022, 02:13:48 AM
Well we thought $200k for Licky was nuts, and the burnham grabbed $260, and now Lawler $300. Agree, totally over the top redonkulous!!! No reciever is worth that, none.

We re trying to find ways and means of keeping Harris in blue and gold and Elks offer $300k, go ahead, take him. We ll scoop Ellingson for half that and roll on like nothing ever happened.
Half that? Really?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 08, 2022, 02:24:26 AM
Half that? Really?
$200 absolute tops


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: DM83 on February 08, 2022, 11:15:29 AM
I think that amount is way over the top.

I mean Lucky does have trouble catching.
Lawler at $300,000?  Sure at half that.
Burnham is good, but he looked on his last legs last year.
Whose the guy the Elks got!  Mitchell, or Walker, he left the Ells went to Toronto, came back,to the Elks last year? And was totally invisible..   A lot of those guys, Ellingson included suffered b c they had ****** QBs.

Reily should un-retire and go someplace that has a good O line.
What's our boy Matty Ice going to do? Hang 'em up or coach.  He looked comfortable in the press box last year. I don't think assistant coaches make decent money though.

He deserves a happy ending somewhere"


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 01:31:33 PM
Saskatchewan Roughriders have agreed to terms with linebacker Darnell Sankey on a one-year contract for the 2022 season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2022, 01:34:08 PM
Saskatchewan Roughriders have agreed to terms with linebacker Darnell Sankey on a one-year contract for the 2022 season.

He's an excellent player. Earlier they had re-signed Dean and this may bump him off the roster before or during TC.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 08, 2022, 02:46:48 PM
Saskatchewan Roughriders have agreed to terms with linebacker Darnell Sankey on a one-year contract for the 2022 season.

IMO a great signing for the Riders


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 08, 2022, 04:19:48 PM
#Redblacks are firing on all cylinders in first day of #CFL free agency. D makeover with Alden Darby, Patrick Levels, Kwaku Boateng, Lorenzo Mauldin, Ty Cranston. Offence gets jumpstart with QB Jeremiah Masoli, receivers Jaelon Acklin, Darvin Adams, Llevi Noel, RB William Powell.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Sec227 on February 08, 2022, 04:30:57 PM
#Redblacks are firing on all cylinders in first day of #CFL free agency. D makeover with Alden Darby, Patrick Levels, Kwaku Boateng, Lorenzo Mauldin, Ty Cranston. Offence gets jumpstart with QB Jeremiah Masoli, receivers Jaelon Acklin, Darvin Adams, Llevi Noel, RB William Powell.

Of ALL the teams. Ottawa needed a big splash. Their fanbase deserved as much, with last years season. Especially with the QB carousal. 


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2022, 04:31:06 PM
#Redblacks are firing on all cylinders in first day of #CFL free agency. D makeover with Alden Darby, Patrick Levels, Kwaku Boateng, Lorenzo Mauldin, Ty Cranston. Offence gets jumpstart with QB Jeremiah Masoli, receivers Jaelon Acklin, Darvin Adams, Llevi Noel, RB William Powell.

How many of those are confirmed? Mostly interested in the question about Darby.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 08, 2022, 04:39:32 PM
How many of those are confirmed? Mostly interested in the question about Darby.

Darby confirmed


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 05:00:23 PM
LB Derrick Moncrief is headed back to Riderville!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 05:15:41 PM
B.C. Lions have announced the signing of Canadian kicker Sean Whyte, a native of White Rock, British Columbia.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pete on February 08, 2022, 05:16:05 PM
Riders have a strong lb crew.. Larry dean. Moncreif, Sankey, where does that leave Teitz?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 05:16:14 PM
Big Teddy Laurent is officially back in the Hammer, as the Ticats confirm his re-signing.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 05:17:26 PM
Riders have a strong lb crew.. Larry dean. Moncreif, Sankey, where does that leave Teitz?

Teitz is a Canadian, so he is fine.

Hope Dean's achilles is fixed and he is ready to go.
 


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 08, 2022, 05:18:22 PM
Darby confirmed

****, Bombers better lock up Jones, I don't want to see 3 new faces in the secondary this year expecially with B.A. out half the year.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 05:21:17 PM
B.C. Lions have brought back another former player, confirming the signing of do-it-all defensive back Loucheiz Purifoy.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jets on February 08, 2022, 05:25:33 PM
****, Bombers better lock up Jones, I don't want to see 3 new faces in the secondary this year expecially with B.A. out half the year.

We've got the Hallett bros covering the safety spot without Alexander and we've got Rose, Nichols, Taylor and Maston for the boundary side corner, half, SAM and field half.  It's really just potentially a rookie American for field corner, which isn't concerning


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 05:45:51 PM
Elks have made newly signed Mark Korte the highest paid offensive lineman in the CFL, with a deal worth $210,000 this season and $220,000 in 2022.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2022, 05:50:06 PM
We've got the Hallett bros covering the safety spot without Alexander and we've got Rose, Nichols, Taylor and Maston for the boundary side corner, half, SAM and field half.  It's really just potentially a rookie American for field corner, which isn't concerning

Depends on how well Nick Hallett does replacing Alexander.  You're under estimating a rookie corner and how badly some that we've had performed.

Do you not remember Roc Carmichael for example?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 08, 2022, 05:52:53 PM
We've got the Hallett bros covering the safety spot without Alexander and we've got Rose, Nichols, Taylor and Maston for the boundary side corner, half, SAM and field half.  It's really just potentially a rookie American for field corner, which isn't concerning
^this


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 08, 2022, 05:54:54 PM
Depends on how well Nick Hallett does replacing Alexander.  You're under estimating a rookie corner and how badly some that we've had performed.

Do you not remember Roc Carmichael for example?

Oh my gosh...did you have to bring up his name!!! Aaaaughh....


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2022, 05:59:43 PM
Oh my gosh...did you have to bring up his name!!! Aaaaughh....

LOL.  Just pointing out that a rookie is not always a good thing or close to a solution. We'll have a dozen rookies in TC and more will be looked at during open camps.

I'm more concerned about how effective Hallett will be but I'm trying to be optimistic he'll not do badly. Benefit is he's a National.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 08, 2022, 06:01:10 PM
****, Bombers better lock up Jones, I don't want to see 3 new faces in the secondary this year expecially with B.A. out half the year.

Herb Zurkowsky
@HerbZurkowsky1
?
2h
Hearing Winnipeg DB Mike Jones will be signing with #AlsMTL


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2022, 06:08:44 PM
Herb Zurkowsky
@HerbZurkowsky1
?
2h
Hearing Winnipeg DB Mike Jones will be signing with #AlsMTL


Unfortunate. I like him


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2022, 06:11:17 PM
O'Conner signs in BC. Could have potential but that's a really inexperienced QB team.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 06:13:58 PM
Canadian receiver Hergy Mayala has signed with the Montreal Alouettes.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 08, 2022, 06:32:23 PM
Justin Dunk
@JDunk12
4m
Longtime Tiger-Cats defensive back Delvin Breaux taking his talents to the west coast with the B.C. Lions


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 08, 2022, 06:33:20 PM
Justin Dunk
@JDunk12
4m
Longtime Tiger-Cats defensive back Delvin Breaux taking his talents to the west coast with the B.C. Lions
Along with Woody Baron, who I was hoping we could use as a Stove replacement


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 06:48:47 PM
Saskatchewan Roughriders have signed Canadian offensive lineman Josiah St. John to a contract extension for the 2022 season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 07:18:08 PM
Canadian receiver Daniel Petermann will be jumping from the Ottawa Redblacks to the B.C. Lions.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 07:18:27 PM
Ottawa Redblacks have announced the signing of former GeeGees safety Ty Cranston, while confirming the additions of Canadian defensive end Kwaku Boateng and former NFL third-round pick Lorenzo Mauldin IV.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
Lalji indicates that the Toronto Argonauts may have interest in free agent running back Andrew Harris.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: bwiser on February 08, 2022, 07:39:27 PM
It looks like Darby and Adams will be joining LaPolice in Ottawa


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2022, 08:09:51 PM
David Menard is a big signing for BC.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2022, 08:15:01 PM
Makana Henry signing with the Elks. Good Canadian DL.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2022, 08:18:27 PM
O'Connor signs with BC, BC now with 2 Canadian QB's.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 08, 2022, 08:22:31 PM
O'Conner signs in BC. Could have potential but that's a really inexperienced QB team.

Trevor Harris still available, I wonder if he burned any bridges in Edmonton?  I think he is now in the position that he will have to accept a $250k offer.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2022, 08:26:47 PM
BC is signing a lot of players.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 08, 2022, 08:29:38 PM
Andrew Harris signs with the Argoooos


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 08, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
I'm OK with Harris signing with Argos. I believe we will only see him once.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2022, 08:38:47 PM
Went from Blue and Gold to Double Blue. A lot of people thought this would never happen it was Winnipeg or nothing.

Go break those records AH33, and come back and retire a Bomber.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 08, 2022, 08:38:51 PM
Mike Jones gone to the Als...don't like this either


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 08, 2022, 08:39:57 PM
Stove gone to the Lions :(


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2022, 08:40:19 PM
I think Jones felt disrespected when the Bombers signed Rose last year and he was the odd man out.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2022, 08:41:51 PM
Stove gone to the Lions :(

If BC can get this talent to gel, they could have a good team. There D is looking pretty solid.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 08:43:19 PM
Three-time Grey Cup champion, Canadian running back Andrew Harris has agreed to terms with the Toronto Argonauts.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 08, 2022, 08:52:41 PM
At least he went to the east. We only see him once entire year including no home date here.

It?ll be interesting to see how many games he?ll actually end up playing? Health.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 08, 2022, 09:18:35 PM
I think Jones felt disrespected when the Bombers signed Rose last year and he was the odd man out.

Yah, I really don't like when they bring players back midway through the season and let them step into someone else's position, doesn't seem fair. Someone said that Jones was injured but I don't know if that was the case. 


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: bluengold204 on February 08, 2022, 09:20:10 PM
Three-time Grey Cup champion, Canadian running back Andrew Harris has agreed to terms with the Toronto Argonauts.

Thank god


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on February 08, 2022, 09:21:51 PM
Richardson is good but not worth the big bucks he was asking for since he gets injured quite often.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 08, 2022, 09:24:15 PM
O'Connor signs with BC, BC now with 2 Canadian QB's.

That's awesome... that really helps them with ratio!

Wait, what?  Really?

Nevermind...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 08, 2022, 09:26:42 PM
Three-time Grey Cup champion, Canadian running back Andrew Harris has agreed to terms with the Toronto Argonauts.

Easily the worst news of the day. I get why (money, opportunity) but still don't like it. It'll be weird seeing him in an Argos jersey playing in front of a few hundred fans.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: TBURGESS on February 08, 2022, 09:30:41 PM
As it stands right now:

Out:
Adams         - OTT
Alford           - NFL (Thx Aards)
Antigha        - EDM
Darby          - OTT (Thx Pete)
Desjarlais     - NFL
Harris          - TOR
Jones           - MTL
Kongbo        - NFL
Lawler         - EDM
Richardson   - BC

That's a ton of talent and more losses to come.

In:
Ellingson
 



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pete on February 08, 2022, 09:32:36 PM
also Darby to Ottawa


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: TBURGESS on February 08, 2022, 09:34:57 PM
also Darby to Mtrl
I think you're right, but he's not on the CFL.CA list yet.

Castillo is also rumoured to be gone.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: The Zipp on February 08, 2022, 09:37:41 PM
As it stands right now:

Out:
Adams         - OTT
Antigha        - EDM
Desjarlais     - NFL
Harris          - TOR
Jones           - MTL
Kongbo        - NFL
Lawler         - EDM
Richardson   - BC

That's a ton of talent and more losses to come.

In:
Ellingson
 



we did not get better today...thankfully season doesn't start for a bit yet.  The challenge of winning two in row - our players are good and other teams want them.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: PurpleReign on February 08, 2022, 09:38:01 PM
Easily the worst news of the day. I get why (money, opportunity) but still don't like it. It'll be weird seeing him in an Argos jersey playing in front of a few hundred fans.

This was a very smart move by the Bombers.  Harris is at end of career and with Augustine and Brady the Bombers will be fine.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 08, 2022, 09:47:43 PM
As it stands right now:

Out:
Adams         - OTT
Antigha        - EDM
Desjarlais     - NFL
Harris          - TOR
Jones           - MTL
Kongbo        - NFL
Lawler         - EDM
Richardson   - BC

That's a ton of talent and more losses to come.

In:
Ellingson
 



And you forgot Alford -NFL

But again, look at the roster and list all the "new" players that were in the GC this year that were not on the game day roster for the 2019 cup.  Or on the 2018 roster.  

No one keeps all their players, and none of those players were signed away for less money than they made / would have been offered here.  They were all "bought" at a premium.  

That is a lot of talent going out, but many already had replacements nipping at their heels, and tomorrow (CFL Boxing Day) and beyond is when Walters shines.  Trading for players that teams can no longer afford (like Darby last year) and signing under the radar players that did not get signed today.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 08, 2022, 09:49:19 PM
This was a very smart move by the Bombers.  Harris is at end of career and with Augustine and Brady the Bombers will be fine.

Financially, the Bombers couldn't do it. That tracks and I agree with the business end of it.

It still sucks to see a fan favourite and local boy leave, though.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 08, 2022, 09:56:26 PM
I am ok with Harris moving on. He did not get on the field enough in a 14 game season last year.

I like our current back field on O.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 08, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
Scouting department has the work cut out in the WR DL DB department. Plus is Mortauda good enough? Also need a good kick returner.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 10:49:36 PM
At least he went to the east. We only see him once entire year including no home date here.

It?ll be interesting to see how many games he?ll actually end up playing? Health.

Come to Regina on July 23rd and see Andrew Harris play vs the Riders.

We can drink beer and talk smack.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 08, 2022, 11:01:18 PM
And you forgot Alford -NFL

But again, look at the roster and list all the "new" players that were in the GC this year that were not on the game day roster for the 2019 cup.  Or on the 2018 roster.  

No one keeps all their players, and none of those players were signed away for less money than they made / would have been offered here.  They were all "bought" at a premium.  

That is a lot of talent going out, but many already had replacements nipping at their heels, and tomorrow (CFL Boxing Day) and beyond is when Walters shines.  Trading for players that teams can no longer afford (like Darby last year) and signing under the radar players that did not get signed today.

We only had 2 rookies starting in 2021: Alford and Nichols. Darby was added as an experienced veteran. All the other rookies were back up players: Hallett, Kramdi, Liegghio and Cadwallader: 2021 draft choices. Two DI's in Antigua and Brown

Today we lost: Lawler, Adams, Harris, Richardson, Jones, Darby all were starters in 2021. Also lost Alford and Desjarlais to the NFL. Both were starters in 2021.

In addition we lost Kongbo to the NFL. He was a rotational starter.

No word yet on what's happening with Grant. He was our primary returner. Lost Castillo ( probably ) but he was a late season addition.

Lost Eli due to covid issue.

In no way does this remotely resemble the kinds of changes we experienced in 2021. We were a veteran laden team with very few changes going into 2021.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 08, 2022, 11:59:35 PM
Montreal Alouettes have signed veteran quarterback Trevor Harris to a one-year contract for the 2022 season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: bluengold204 on February 09, 2022, 12:39:57 AM
As it stands right now:

Out:
Adams         - OTT
Alford           - NFL (Thx Aards)
Antigha        - EDM
Darby          - OTT (Thx Pete)
Desjarlais     - NFL
Harris          - TOR
Jones           - MTL
Kongbo        - NFL
Lawler         - EDM
Richardson   - BC

That's a ton of talent and more losses to come.

In:
Ellingson
 



That?s a lot to overcome? not liking our threepeat chances right now


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 09, 2022, 12:41:50 AM
As it stands right now:

Out:
Adams         - OTT
Alford           - NFL (Thx Aards)
Antigha        - EDM
Darby          - OTT (Thx Pete)
Desjarlais     - NFL
Harris          - TOR
Jones           - MTL
Kongbo        - NFL
Lawler         - EDM
Richardson   - BC

That's a ton of talent and more losses to come.

In:
Ellingson
 



Lots of good names on that list! Goes to show you how special that team was last year and 2019 too. There are a few names on that list that aren't going to hurt that much and some that will. Lawler, Desjarlais and Alford are the biggest talents going out the door. Can't fault Walters much for those losses. Two to the NFL and Edmonton throwing crazy money at Lawler makes it tough. Richardson and Kongbo hurt not because of their irreplaceability but because they were great value last year (and Kongbo had the right passport). Had we signed those two for bigger money and their values becomes questionable.  Adams, Harris and Antigha are not impactful losses and you could have argued that money was better spent elsewhere even in 2021. Darby and Jones are kind of in between but most teams have lost a Darby and a Jones today so that's a bit of a push.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue72 on February 09, 2022, 12:46:57 AM
That makes five QBs for them now


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 09, 2022, 12:51:29 AM
We only had 2 rookies starting in 2021: Alford and Nichols. Darby was added as an experienced veteran. All the other rookies were back up players: Hallett, Kramdi, Liegghio and Cadwallader: 2021 draft choices. Two DI's in Antigua and Brown

Today we lost: Lawler, Adams, Harris, Richardson, Jones, Darby all were starters in 2021. Also lost Alford and Desjarlais to the NFL. Both were starters in 2021.

In addition we lost Kongbo to the NFL. He was a rotational starter.

No word yet on what's happening with Grant. He was our primary returner. Lost Castillo ( probably ) but he was a late season addition.

Lost Eli due to covid issue.

In no way does this remotely resemble the kinds of changes we experienced in 2021. We were a veteran laden team with very few changes going into 2021.

I'm pretty sure there were zero changes on offence from 2019 to 2021, which is amazing.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 09, 2022, 12:59:44 AM
Come to Regina on July 23rd and see Andrew Harris play vs the Riders.

We can drink beer and talk smack.
LOL sounds like fun!


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 09, 2022, 02:35:13 AM
I'm pretty sure there were zero changes on offence from 2019 to 2021, which is amazing.

We only lost Streveler as our # 2 QB and Whitehead as a depth player. Our starting offence was intact.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: buckzumhoff on February 09, 2022, 02:38:15 AM
Bombers should have signed Darby. Why let a player like him go.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on February 09, 2022, 02:42:30 AM
Bombers should have signed Darby. Why let a player like him go.
I thought I read somewhere he is in Ottawa.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 09, 2022, 03:30:14 AM
That's awesome... that really helps them with ratio!

Wait, what?  Really?

Nevermind...

Personally, I don't think they make this move unless they expect a change in the CBA Re: national QBs.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 09, 2022, 01:24:19 PM
Personally, I don't think they make this move unless they expect a change in the CBA Re: national QBs.

Like what? Starting a National QB counts as 1 of the starting 7. OTOH, as QB's they don't count as part of the 21 needed on the roster whether start or are # 2.

BTW. I read this morning on Lionbackers that Harris signed in Montreal?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 09, 2022, 01:27:44 PM
Veteran DL, Shawn Lemon has re-signed with the Calgary Stampeders.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 09, 2022, 01:53:32 PM
Personally, I don't think they make this move unless they expect a change in the CBA Re: national QBs.

From the Twitter feed, it sounds like it did get put into the CBA... which is cool...

Weird that having 2 NAT QB's would be ratio breaking, and that those QB's would be the lowest paid QB tandem in the league.  Ratio usually costs more...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: road griller on February 09, 2022, 01:55:52 PM
Bombers should have signed Darby. Why let a player like him go.

Maston is back and ready to go, probably cheaper as well.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 09, 2022, 02:27:03 PM
Toronto Argonauts have signed American defensive lineman Adrian Tracy to a one-year contract for the 2022 season.

The 34-year-old Tracy is coming out of retirement to play with the Argos after not getting the chance to play with Montreal, who he signed with prior to the 2020 season, due to the cancelled season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 09, 2022, 08:20:09 PM
Collaros        33   550K
Fajardo         29   467K
Masoli           29   432K
Adams          29   445K
Mitchell         31   425k
Evans           28    417k
Thompson     33   400K
Arbuckle       28    340k
Shiltz           29    125K
Maier           24     120K
Roucke         23      71K

My grandson had some time to kill.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 09, 2022, 08:20:58 PM
BC Lions sign American QB Isaac Harker, who suited up in 32 games over the past two seasons in Saskatchewan.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 09, 2022, 08:36:34 PM
Dave Naylor
@TSNDaveNaylor
QB Trevor Harris 1-year deal with @MTLAlouettes for $125k plus playtime incentive bonuses. #CFL #Als
5:42 AM ? Feb 9, 2022

This is so cheap, I can't imagine why the Bombers wouldn't have snapped him up, they have virtually nothing to backup Collaros.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 09, 2022, 09:05:17 PM
Dave Naylor
@TSNDaveNaylor
QB Trevor Harris 1-year deal with @MTLAlouettes for $125k plus playtime incentive bonuses. #CFL #Als
5:42 AM ? Feb 9, 2022

This is so cheap, I can't imagine why the Bombers wouldn't have snapped him up, they have virtually nothing to backup Collaros.

Why won't BC, Sask, Elks, Argo's, it's just a great deal.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 09, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
Why won't BC, Sask, Elks, Argo's, it's just a great deal.

I don't know and I don't really care what those other teams do.  It could be that Harris carries too much baggage for teams to bother with now.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Horseman on February 09, 2022, 09:53:53 PM
Dave Naylor
@TSNDaveNaylor
QB Trevor Harris 1-year deal with @MTLAlouettes for $125k plus playtime incentive bonuses. #CFL #Als
5:42 AM ? Feb 9, 2022

This is so cheap, I can't imagine why the Bombers wouldn't have snapped him up, they have virtually nothing to backup Collaros.

Yep, it is a head scratcher for sure!!! Bombers missed out.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 09, 2022, 09:59:00 PM
Collaros        33   550K
Fajardo         29   467K
Masoli           29   432K
Adams          29   445K
Mitchell         31   425k
Evans           28    417k
Thompson     33   400K
Arbuckle       28    340k
Shiltz           29    125K
Maier           24     120K
Roucke         23      71K

My grandson had some time to kill.

I'm not disputing what Collaros is " worth but $80K - $125K over the next few QB's on the list? It cost us something but what exactly is not clear. In the end if the team is competitive and takes a run in the playoffs and or Grey Cup, it's irrelevant.

If we struggle in roster areas like kicking, back up QB or missing someone like Richardson there will be questions. Things like this will be a season long discussion. We'll probably be watching the consequences of not having Adams or Harris as well. It's not easy building a competitive roster and balancing against the SMS decisions.

I had suggested earlier that Harris at QB might come relatively cheap. Were we in the hunt? Every QB except Collaros seemed to miss game time. Odds are against him not having some injuries in 2022. Maybe we find a decent rookie QB to back him up when needed.

Harris isn't any more likely to start in Montreal unless there is an injury although there might be more of a 2 QB used at times in some games.

Obviously a team winning or losing goes far beyond just the QB.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 09, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
Let's not forget that Fajardo renegotiated his contract earlier this year. That saved the Riders a little money.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jets on February 09, 2022, 10:28:52 PM
Toronto has signed so many Stampeders they?ve just (jokingly) announced they signed their horse mascot as well..

https://twitter.com/torontoargos/status/1491534120677224459?s=21


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 09, 2022, 10:29:39 PM
Edmonton Elks have signed Canadian defensive tackle Stefan Charles as well as American receiver Michael Walker and American defensive back Trey Hoskins.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 10, 2022, 05:08:04 AM
Tim Baines
@TimCBaines
6h
Sounds like a change of heart for DB Alden Darby, who not be joining the #Redblacks.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: DM83 on February 10, 2022, 05:12:49 AM
Well where is he going?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 10, 2022, 05:20:43 AM
Tim Baines
@TimCBaines
6h
Sounds like a change of heart for DB Alden Darby, who not be joining the #Redblacks.

Come on down to Winnipeg.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 10, 2022, 05:21:24 AM
Well where is he going?

The word out there is that Hamilton is looking for him but there is nothing that says he will end up there.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on February 10, 2022, 06:05:46 AM
DaVaris Daniels
@SincerelyToot
13h
Some big stuff coming soon.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2022, 01:18:39 PM
DaVaris Daniels
@SincerelyToot
13h
Some big stuff coming soon.

Re-signed with Argos.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2022, 01:19:39 PM
Come on down to Winnipeg.

In an instant if he wants to return. If practical SMS hit.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 10, 2022, 02:38:08 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats have signed defensive back and strong-side linebacker Alden Darby to a one-year contract for the 2022 season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 10, 2022, 02:38:28 PM
I'm not disputing what Collaros is " worth but $80K - $125K over the next few QB's on the list? It cost us something but what exactly is not clear. In the end if the team is competitive and takes a run in the playoffs and or Grey Cup, it's irrelevant.

If we struggle in roster areas like kicking, back up QB or missing someone like Richardson there will be questions. Things like this will be a season long discussion. We'll probably be watching the consequences of not having Adams or Harris as well. It's not easy building a competitive roster and balancing against the SMS decisions.

I had suggested earlier that Harris at QB might come relatively cheap. Were we in the hunt? Every QB except Collaros seemed to miss game time. Odds are against him not having some injuries in 2022. Maybe we find a decent rookie QB to back him up when needed.

Harris isn't any more likely to start in Montreal unless there is an injury although there might be more of a 2 QB used at times in some games.

Obviously a team winning or losing goes far beyond just the QB.

I agree with you, but there are mitigating factors here.

Collaros is on the upswing and at his max negotiating power.

Literally every other QB is coming off a poor or injured riddled season. Any one of them has a good season this year and their salary shoots ight back up to where Zach is or higher.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2022, 03:34:01 PM
Hamilton Tiger-Cats have signed defensive back and strong-side linebacker Alden Darby to a one-year contract for the 2022 season.

Delvin Breaux did not return to Hamilton, wonder if that's why they went after Darby...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2022, 05:02:18 PM
I agree with you, but there are mitigating factors here.

Collaros is on the upswing and at his max negotiating power.

Literally every other QB is coming off a poor or injured riddled season. Any one of them has a good season this year and their salary shoots ight back up to where Zach is or higher.

Can't disagree with you. Just curious what other offers he might have had. That may have forced our hand to pay more. We've gotten 2 Grey Cups having Collaros so no argument there.

Contracts are a gamble as are player choices. Some over perform and some under perform.

I would have been more comfortable at $500K or slightly less but it is what it is. The other $50K might have saves us Richardson for example. Don't know since we don't know what many of our players that left got elsewhere.

We may have the next Richardson already on the roster. Or we may have the next M. Jones or Alford by TC.

Will be more curious to see how Edmonton does after paying Lawler $300K. No doubt he'll do well but where on their roster did they give up someone as a result? As a 3 - 11 team missing the play offs, they have a long way to go. If their young QB's do well, they might be in the hunt. Or they could be the 2018 Argos who spent $270K on a receiver.

No crystal ball knowing who stays healthy on any team etc.

From a Bomber point of view it may have cost us a more veteran QB @ # 2? That could change or we might be sitting with no experience.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 10, 2022, 05:12:08 PM
Can't disagree with you. Just curious what other offers he might have had. That may have forced our hand to pay more. We've gotten 2 Grey Cups having Collaros so no argument there.

Contracts are a gamble as are player choices. Some over perform and some under perform.

I would have been more comfortable at $500K or slightly less but it is what it is. The other $50K might have saves us Richardson for example. Don't know since we don't know what many of our players that left got elsewhere.

We may have the next Richardson already on the roster. Or we may have the next M. Jones or Alford by TC.

Will be more curious to see how Edmonton does after paying Lawler $300K. No doubt he'll do well but where on their roster did they give up someone as a result?

The Elks are under budget at QB, I think Arbuckle is around $350 and Cornie is still on his ELC. 

Any shavings the Bombers could have saved would more realistically been used to retain players like Darby or Jones, players as highly coveted as Richardson and Lawler were as good as gone from the end of last season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2022, 05:39:49 PM
The Elks are under budget at QB, I think Arbuckle is around $350 and Cornie is still on his ELC. 

Any shavings the Bombers could have saved would more realistically been used to retain players like Darby or Jones, players as highly coveted as Richardson and Lawler were as good as gone from the end of last season.

It depends on what other offers Collaros had. If the Redblacks offered him $540K then sure. If his best other offer was $450K then no. Obviously we paid him what we had to get him. That doesn't change the fact that it's a big jump from the next guy up.

It's not the $700K Reilly got in BC and won't have as heavy an impact on our roster as it did on theirs but it did have an impact. What that turns out to be is not known at this point in time. We could still be in the Grey Cup again in 2022.

We'll see whether we add some free agents and whether we get Grant or those that got NFL deals etc. Rookies may shine and make the opening day roster.

The biggest point I was trying to make is did it prevent us from signing T. Harris as our # 2 QB for example. He may have declined our offer or we may not have made one. We can win with replacements at DT, receiver or in the secondary.

I'm not as confidant that we can survive any mid to long term loss to injury at QB. Even missing 2 - 3 games during the season could be the difference from placing #1 or # 4.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 10, 2022, 06:17:48 PM
So many player signings around the league...I hate the 1 yr contract...but that's for a different day....

BC-What did they do to improve the O-line and D-line?
Edm-I can't make sense of the team, some very seasoned vets, but again how are the o-line and d-line improved?
Cal. Typical Cal. FA...nothing burger
Sask. Wow, the best LB crew league wide now, but what did they do to address the O-line and D-line?
Wpg. What are we doing at B/U qb
Hammy-looked to make some solid moves
T.O-bought half the Stamps, Harris and Davis, but how is the o-line?
Mtrl-Looked to make some decent moves, Will the o-line be any better this year?
Ott- At least on paper are much better, they couldn't really go anywhere but up

Over-all o-line looks to be the leagues biggest weakness and some teams, hello BC seem to be almost thinking of an o-line as a second thought. Could be a few good D-lines, ours included, but a couple other teams could give our a run this year depending on chemistry.

Biggest surprise are the poor receiver contracts..sorry in no way IMO should a receiver make more than a great LT never mind multiple receivers making way more than all-star tackles...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: DM83 on February 10, 2022, 06:24:14 PM
LT are smart if they are huge and can move...Hello Stanley Bryant


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2022, 06:43:04 PM
So many player signings around the league...I hate the 1 yr contract...but that's for a different day....

BC-What did they do to improve the O-line and D-line?
Edm-I can't make sense of the team, some very seasoned vets, but again how are the o-line and d-line improved?
Cal. Typical Cal. FA...nothing burger
Sask. Wow, the best LB crew league wide now, but what did they do to address the O-line and D-line?
Wpg. What are we doing at B/U qb
Hammy-looked to make some solid moves
T.O-bought half the Stamps, Harris and Davis, but how is the o-line?
Mtrl-Looked to make some decent moves, Will the o-line be any better this year?
Ott- At least on paper are much better, they couldn't really go anywhere but up

Over-all o-line looks to be the leagues biggest weakness and some teams, hello BC seem to be almost thinking of an o-line as a second thought. Could be a few good D-lines, ours included, but a couple other teams could give our a run this year depending on chemistry.

Biggest surprise are the poor receiver contracts..sorry in no way IMO should a receiver make more than a great LT never mind multiple receivers making way more than all-star tackles...

Lions added Richardson which will help their DL. Argos added Ambles today.

Still nothing from the Bombers. A few very good players available but not that many in positions we need or would need to spend for a few top players. An example would be Awe. We're strong at LB and he wouldn't be inexpensive. Would make a great DI at the right price.

Can't find any more decent Nationals on the DE at this point. Might a couple of affordable receivers out there but not many.

DB is the only area we might dip into the water but the fact we haven't suggests were probably out of the marketplace across the board.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 10, 2022, 07:23:54 PM
Calgary Stampeders have signed national defensive back Elie Bouka.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 10, 2022, 07:24:29 PM
Toronto Argonauts are continuing their mission to create the Stampeders East, signing former Calgary receiver Markeith Ambles.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2022, 08:01:48 PM


Another long time Stamp heading east...

Toronto Argonauts@TorontoArgos

Another Stamp turned Argonaut

Welcome to the 6ix, Six

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Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: the paw on February 10, 2022, 08:23:17 PM
So many player signings around the league...I hate the 1 yr contract...but that's for a different day....

BC-What did they do to improve the O-line and D-line?
Edm-I can't make sense of the team, some very seasoned vets, but again how are the o-line and d-line improved?
Cal. Typical Cal. FA...nothing burger
Sask. Wow, the best LB crew league wide now, but what did they do to address the O-line and D-line?
Wpg. What are we doing at B/U qb
Hammy-looked to make some solid moves
T.O-bought half the Stamps, Harris and Davis, but how is the o-line?
Mtrl-Looked to make some decent moves, Will the o-line be any better this year?
Ott- At least on paper are much better, they couldn't really go anywhere but up

Over-all o-line looks to be the leagues biggest weakness and some teams, hello BC seem to be almost thinking of an o-line as a second thought. Could be a few good D-lines, ours included, but a couple other teams could give our a run this year depending on chemistry.

Biggest surprise are the poor receiver contracts..sorry in no way IMO should a receiver make more than a great LT never mind multiple receivers making way more than all-star tackles...

Toronto has a lot of resources on their o-line.  They signed Phillips from Calgary, NiCastro will be back at Center, Bladek is returning, and they have Shane Richards an overall #1 pick coming along.  I think Phil Blake might be at the end of the road, but they should be able to start 4 Canadians on the line.

I think Hamilton may have some difficulties.  They lost Acklin and are moving on from Banks.  I love Dunbar, but I have a problem believing Papi White and Don Jackson are leading them to the promised land.  The also lost Ciraco, which is a hit.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2022, 08:56:24 PM
Geez. The Redblacks continue to add players. Added T. Washington and BJ Cunningham today. They've rebuilt their entire receiving and DB corp while retaining a few Redblacks from 2021.

17 additions and 2 others re-signed since FA opened. Over 80 players now on their roster.

Hard to tell who might be displaced that is currently on their roster from 2021. Won't be any shortage of veteran competition.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2022, 09:12:12 PM
Geez. The Redblacks continue to add players. Added T. Washington and BJ Cunningham today. They've rebuilt their entire receiving and DB corp while retaining a few Redblacks from 2021.

17 additions and 2 others re-signed since FA opened. Over 80 players now on their roster.

Hard to tell who might be displaced that is currently on their roster from 2021. Won't be any shortage of veteran competition.



Sounds like there may be some TC casualties... some SMS necessitated cuts may be coming once they see who shows up ready to go in camp...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 10, 2022, 09:18:43 PM
Sounds like there may be some TC casualties... some SMS necessitated cuts may be coming once they see who shows up ready to go in camp...

That's part of the argument that supports being a bit more of a player in free agency. Just cause players are signed today doesn't mean currently on a given roster or newly signed, actually survive TC. Injuries is another layer to increase TC depth.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2022, 09:34:47 PM
That's part of the argument that supports being a bit more of a player in free agency. Just cause players are signed today doesn't mean currently on a given roster or newly signed, actually survive TC. Injuries is another layer to increase TC depth.

No team wants to get the reputation as a sign and release team... which is why Walters would never do that...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 10, 2022, 09:41:50 PM
No team wants to get the reputation as a sign and release team... which is why Walters would never do that...
I mean it happens with all teams. We cut Stafford


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ichabod_crane on February 10, 2022, 11:17:38 PM
Can't disagree with you. Just curious what other offers he might have had. That may have forced our hand to pay more. We've gotten 2 Grey Cups having Collaros so no argument there.

Contracts are a gamble as are player choices. Some over perform and some under perform.

I would have been more comfortable at $500K or slightly less but it is what it is. The other $50K might have saves us Richardson for example. Don't know since we don't know what many of our players that left got elsewhere.

We may have the next Richardson already on the roster. Or we may have the next M. Jones or Alford by TC.

Will be more curious to see how Edmonton does after paying Lawler $300K. No doubt he'll do well but where on their roster did they give up someone as a result? As a 3 - 11 team missing the play offs, they have a long way to go. If their young QB's do well, they might be in the hunt. Or they could be the 2018 Argos who spent $270K on a receiver.

No crystal ball knowing who stays healthy on any team etc.

From a Bomber point of view it may have cost us a more veteran QB @ # 2? That could change or we might be sitting with no experience.




NO QB, you are going nowhere in this league or the NFL. AS good as Richardson is, his impact is no comparison to a great QB. With salary caps you have to make hard choices at times. It is what it is. If the CFL could ever raise their salary cap we might get less of these situations as each team will have more coin to hand out. Hopefully 2022 is a come back season financially for the league.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: oskee woot woot on February 11, 2022, 12:02:40 AM
Toronto has a lot of resources on their o-line.  They signed Phillips from Calgary, NiCastro will be back at Center, Bladek is returning, and they have Shane Richards an overall #1 pick coming along.  I think Phil Blake might be at the end of the road, but they should be able to start 4 Canadians on the line.

I think Hamilton may have some difficulties.  They lost Acklin and are moving on from Banks.  I love Dunbar, but I have a problem believing Papi White and Don Jackson are leading them to the promised land.  The also lost Ciraco, which is a hit.

I agree to an extent, but they do have Addison coming back (hopefully he isn't rusty). Banks has definitely lost a step. Losing him is hard more for 'franchise legend' reasons.

Hated losing Acklin.

Papi White I think will be used more on KR. Tim 'Kneel for the Rouge' White is back which will disappoint a lot of Ticat fans, despite him actually being a decent receiver. Another FA loss for the Cats that is flying under the radar is Nikola Kalinic, who is now trying out for the Colts. I do like the Darby, Fontana, and Micah Johnson signings. Ja'Gared Davis hurts a bit, but TBH, he actually didn't have a great season until the playoffs rolled around when he turned it up a notch.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2022, 12:32:56 AM

NO QB, you are going nowhere in this league or the NFL. AS good as Richardson is, his impact is no comparison to a great QB. With salary caps you have to make hard choices at times. It is what it is. If the CFL could ever raise their salary cap we might get less of these situations as each team will have more coin to hand out. Hopefully 2022 is a come back season financially for the league.

More money in the SMS doesn't help. Teams will just pay more to get who they want.  It's still a salary cap whether its' $5M or $10M.

Obviously the QB is the most critical requirement. However my point was whether we could have had both.

We never heard whether Collaros had multiple offers or how close they might have been.

At the moment we only have 1 QB. We're one hit away from Dru Brown at the moment. That's another area where money left in the SMS could have been used. OTOH we're in that same situation in 2021.

More QB's will be looked at during tryouts and we'll probably see a couple more added for rookie camps. Maybe we find a good one for # 2 and # 3 spots.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 11, 2022, 03:00:04 AM
Collaros is one of the few Qbs that never got hurt last year. Reilly, Harris, BLM, masoli, Evans, arbuckle, Nichols, Davis, and Adams all got hurt. Odds say ZC gets hurt this year and he don?t win anything with brown behind centre, nothing. Major glaring and largely not talked about gaff of this FA. I hold little faith anything coming to training camp will be of use, we held McGuire as #2 for a couple of years and look how well he turned out. This is going to bite us this year.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Horseman on February 11, 2022, 03:30:12 AM
Collaros is one of the few Qbs that never got hurt last year. Reilly, Harris, BLM, masoli, Evans, arbuckle, Nichols, Davis, and Adams all got hurt. Odds say ZC gets hurt this year and he don?t win anything with brown behind centre, nothing. Major glaring and largely not talked about gaff of this FA. I hold little faith anything coming to training camp will be of use, we held McGuire as #2 for a couple of years and look how well he turned out. This is going to bite us this year.

I agree, we missed the boat by not signing Trevor Harris to be QB #2, he took the Al's up on their offer to be their second string. Opportunity lost, games will be lost should ZC go down this year.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2022, 05:17:45 AM
Collaros is one of the few Qbs that never got hurt last year. Reilly, Harris, BLM, masoli, Evans, arbuckle, Nichols, Davis, and Adams all got hurt. Odds say ZC gets hurt this year and he don?t win anything with brown behind centre, nothing. Major glaring and largely not talked about gaff of this FA. I hold little faith anything coming to training camp will be of use, we held McGuire as #2 for a couple of years and look how well he turned out. This is going to bite us this year.

There are still a few teams juggling 3 or more QB's that won't accept a PR spot if they think another team will pick them up, so hopefully a few pop loose. 

These are my predictions.

Elks-Dakota Prukop
RB's-Devlin Hodges
Als-Dominique Davis

D*mn straight I'm grabbing Dom off that list!

Most CFL teams are carrying 4 QB's at this time, the Bombers are one of the few carrying only two.



Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on February 11, 2022, 08:48:48 AM
I think kicker might be more urgent now than backup QB. At least we have a starting QB. We don't even have a starting kicker.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: TBURGESS on February 11, 2022, 02:54:42 PM
We never heard whether Collaros had multiple offers or how close they might have been.
We signed Collaros in January before other teams had a chance to make an offer. We paid him what he was worth as the best QB last season and enough to make sure he didn't wait to see what other teams would be willing to offer.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GCn19 on February 11, 2022, 02:59:09 PM
Collaros is one of the few Qbs that never got hurt last year. Reilly, Harris, BLM, masoli, Evans, arbuckle, Nichols, Davis, and Adams all got hurt. Odds say ZC gets hurt this year and he don?t win anything with brown behind centre, nothing. Major glaring and largely not talked about gaff of this FA. I hold little faith anything coming to training camp will be of use, we held McGuire as #2 for a couple of years and look how well he turned out. This is going to bite us this year.

Is it July already? Didn't realize that we ran completely out time to get a backup QB. Darn...I missed half of fishing season.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2022, 03:19:39 PM
We signed Collaros in January before other teams had a chance to make an offer. We paid him what he was worth as the best QB last season and enough to make sure he didn't wait to see what other teams would be willing to offer.

Fair point. It would have been risky to let him reach free agency. Worth is such a broad concept though. He'll earn his money and he's the best QB in the CFL. We'll never know what he might have been offered if he had reached free agency.





Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 11, 2022, 03:26:40 PM
With what has happened with QB's so far this year, we might have overpaid for Collaros, but then again, if he was coming to the market in FA, the whole dynamic might have changed...

Does BC blow its brains out on WR's when they can sign a QB (but would Collaros consider them with their Oline?)   Does Jones drop his pants to sign the MOP and make a statement?  Does Pinball get involved?  Does Burke get in a bidding war?  4 teams who's FA time could have been distinctly different if Collaros is in the mix. 

Having signed him, the QB market becomes a lot different, and salaries for what would have been 2nd choices have been fairly tame.  Although, unproven guys got big deals, MBT for $400k makes Collaros at $550k look like a steal. 

Walters had to make a call, and while $550k is the largest salary in the league, its not Riley money.  And Collaros is going to earn every penny, I have no doubt.  We have given him all the tools to have another MOP year.  Especially behind the leagues best Oline.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dizzycamper on February 11, 2022, 04:38:38 PM
With what has happened with QB's so far this year, we might have overpaid for Collaros, but then again, if he was coming to the market in FA, the whole dynamic might have changed...

Does BC blow its brains out on WR's when they can sign a QB (but would Collaros consider them with their Oline?)   Does Jones drop his pants to sign the MOP and make a statement?  Does Pinball get involved?  Does Burke get in a bidding war?  4 teams who's FA time could have been distinctly different if Collaros is in the mix. 

Having signed him, the QB market becomes a lot different, and salaries for what would have been 2nd choices have been fairly tame.  Although, unproven guys got big deals, MBT for $400k makes Collaros at $550k look like a steal. 

Walters had to make a call, and while $550k is the largest salary in the league, its not Riley money.  And Collaros is going to earn every penny, I have no doubt.  We have given him all the tools to have another MOP year.  Especially behind the leagues best Oline.

Regarding our Oline this year versus last year. We had a set 8 guys, the starting 5 ( Bryant, Desjarlais, Couture, Neufeld & Hardrick) plus Asotui Eli, Geoff Gray & Chris Kolankowski, the entire 21 season. With the departure of Dejarlais to the NFL, the uncertain situation with Eli, leaves us thin and not in the same position as we were last year in my opinion.

Geoff Gray will definitely slide into Dejarlais spot, he's done it before and we are good there, still makes the starting 5 the best OLine, barring injuries. To my point, Eli and Grey's spots from last year, are a concern to me. Yes, Liam Dobson is a potential replacement/starter and would fit into Eli's #6 spot to start the year, but he's not here. Getting Eli back, solves a lot, again not here or signed... Yes, its only mid Feb as well. Kolankowski has to slide into Grey's spot from last year and we draft an O-lineman either 9th or 18th spot in the draft with focus on centre/guard background. If its late May, we know who is who, it does work with the coaching staff we go forward...

Further, I believe there maybe a need to watch some of the Canadian O-Line cuts come training camp of other teams for a seasoned vet, as today in free agency, I don't see any.... Are any of you, thinking as I am?  or is it .... shut the heck up, sit back, have a beverage and worry not, its early?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 11, 2022, 04:54:19 PM
Regarding our Oline this year versus last year. We had a set 8 guys, the starting 5 ( Bryant, Desjarlais, Couture, Neufeld & Hardrick) plus Asotui Eli, Geoff Gray & Chris Kolankowski, the entire 21 season. With the departure of Dejarlais to the NFL, the uncertain situation with Eli, leaves us thin and not in the same position as we were last year in my opinion.

Geoff Gray will definitely slide into Dejarlais spot, he's done it before and we are good there, still makes the starting 5 the best OLine, barring injuries. To my point, Eli and Grey's spots from last year, are a concern to me. Yes, Liam Dobson is a potential replacement/starter and would fit into Eli's #6 spot to start the year, but he's not here. Getting Eli back, solves a lot, again not here or signed... Yes, its only mid Feb as well. Kolankowski has to slide into Grey's spot from last year and we draft an O-lineman either 9th or 18th spot in the draft with focus on centre/guard background. If its late May, we know who is who, it does work with the coaching staff we go forward...

Further, I believe there maybe a need to watch some of the Canadian O-Line cuts come training camp of other teams for a seasoned vet, as today in free agency, I don't see any.... Are any of you, thinking as I am?  or is it .... shut the heck up, sit back, have a beverage and worry not, its early?

We have a seasoned Oline.  Kolankowski has CFL time, and Dobson is a great development project.  Eli or Dejarlais might be back, but no one is counting on that.  And this year's draft will no doubt net us one or two prospects as well.  And there are guys like Speller out there who might pop up...

Barring injuries, which is par for ANY position, we are pretty set, and I am sure that the Mafia has contingency plans...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue72 on February 11, 2022, 05:05:03 PM
Will Eli be getting a grey cup ring, if not I don?t see him coming back


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 11, 2022, 05:15:19 PM
Riders have re-signed National LB, Justin Herdman-Reed.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 11, 2022, 05:16:48 PM
Will Eli be getting a grey cup ring, if not I don?t see him coming back

lol, I doubt that's a factor.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dizzycamper on February 11, 2022, 05:41:25 PM
We have a seasoned Oline.  Kolankowski has CFL time, and Dobson is a great development project.  Eli or Dejarlais might be back, but no one is counting on that.  And this year's draft will no doubt net us one or two prospects as well.  And there are guys like Speller out there who might pop up...

Barring injuries, which is par for ANY position, we are pretty set, and I am sure that the Mafia has contingency plans...

Thanks, when I was typing in my comments earlier, I have forgotten about Speller at that time (its that aging thing). Had him written down as a free agent target for the Bombers as he did well in 2019 and is still young...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 11, 2022, 06:18:53 PM
Riders have re-signed National LB, Justin Herdman-Reed.

A very poor year for both of the brothers last year.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2022, 07:52:45 PM
I think kicker might be more urgent now than backup QB. At least we have a starting QB. We don't even have a starting kicker.

They have two kickers on the current roster Leggs and Mourtada, I think they will surprise some with their improvement and will work out fine.  Backup QB is a more serious issue.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on February 11, 2022, 07:53:54 PM
They have two kickers on the current roster Leggs and Mourtada, I think they will surprise some with their improvement and will work out fine.  Backup QB is a more serious issue.

I honestly don't care about a back-up QB.

If Zach is out, we're not winning the Grey Cup. Spend resources elsewhere.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 11, 2022, 08:06:35 PM
Thanks, when I was typing in my comments earlier, I have forgotten about Speller at that time (its that aging thing). Had him written down as a free agent target for the Bombers as he did well in 2019 and is still young...

If Speller was willing and able to play we're not sitting here day 4 of F.A. discussing him, he would have been snapped up by now.  Natl. O-linemen are still scarce, and every team could use a few more.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on February 11, 2022, 09:51:12 PM
If Speller was willing and eager to play we're not sitting here day 4 of F.A. discussing him, he would have been snapped up by now.  Natl. O-linemen are still scarce, and every team could use a few more.
 

Still not sure why he didn't play last year, and is on Toronto's suspended list (does that end on FA day?).  There was conjecture about injury and vax status... not sure which it is... or why Walters traded him away...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on February 13, 2022, 01:24:42 PM
B. Banks goes to Toronto.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on February 13, 2022, 01:28:47 PM
Argos going with the old vets, both Speedy Banks and Andrew Harris.

If they get a decent last season out of them, they can beat out the Tiger Cats in the east.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on February 13, 2022, 03:02:53 PM
They have two kickers on the current roster Leggs and Mourtada, I think they will surprise some with their improvement and will work out fine.  Backup QB is a more serious issue.
without Castillo we wouldn't have won the GC.....he performed as did Medlock when it counted.   Mourtada is a great kicker in practice and Legghio hasn't shown consistency either.   Landing Castillo late last season was a real coup for Walters and I'm sure he'd loved to have signed him long term but for his desire to continuing to pursue his career in the NFL


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 13, 2022, 09:36:01 PM
Argos going with the old vets, both Speedy Banks and Andrew Harris.

If they get a decent last season out of them, they can beat out the Tiger Cats in the east.
Banks has a big part of their offense and they haven?t replaced that, I have the Ticats 3rd in the east now, Montreal and Argos will battle it out for top spot


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 14, 2022, 09:04:22 PM
QB Dakota Prukop released by Elks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-0Phw0iSoo

At least, from that highlight vid, looks like he has a strong arm and good accuracy. Also good in running the football.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 14, 2022, 09:10:28 PM
QB Dakota Prukop released by Elks

Not great, but better than Brown so far.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Horseman on February 14, 2022, 09:31:58 PM
Nice highlight reel, we should sign him asap as I'm sure his salary expectations we can handle and we need someone with a little CFL experience.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on February 14, 2022, 09:46:08 PM
Not great, but better than Brown so far.

Agree, and the guy can run.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: dd on February 15, 2022, 12:51:30 AM
Not great, but better than Brown so far.
Anyone is better than Brown


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: DM83 on February 15, 2022, 03:32:06 AM
Yeah, well Procup looked ok in the games he played.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 15, 2022, 04:48:24 PM
Anyone is better than Brown

Brown doesn't have much of a resume so hard to judge his College career, one interesting fact at OSU he was named the primary back-up quarterback to the starter Taylor Cornelius before the start of 2018 season.  He only played 2 games in the two years he was in Oklahoma.

Here are highlights from one of those games.  No strong arm in evidence, not really a scrambler, kinda Kevin Glennish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjrVnQa9ZQ&ab_channel=Stadium


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on February 16, 2022, 09:10:05 PM
Elks signed another QB, so they have 6 QBs again. Who is the next to fall?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on February 16, 2022, 10:29:17 PM
Elks signed another QB, so they have 6 QBs again. Who is the next to fall?
It's Chris Jones we're talking about. 2 could be converted to DB or WR by the time training camp starts


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on February 17, 2022, 03:27:40 PM
What does Edm. by now 120 players....I guess Jones is looking under every rock, can't say he's not trying I guess.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Pigskin on March 05, 2022, 04:22:47 AM
Jim Barker back with the Argos. Barker will be working as a senior advisor.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on March 05, 2022, 04:40:13 AM
Jim Barker back with the Argos.

:D


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: DM83 on March 08, 2022, 02:58:53 PM
Barker knows his stuff.
Man TSN is taking some hits.
Who they bringing in for the panel?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ducky on March 09, 2022, 02:16:28 PM
TSN is just going to let Kate Bierness talk


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 09, 2022, 02:39:27 PM
TSN is just going to let Kate Bierness talk

I'm ok with that.... and an occasional toss to Milt on Zoom


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on March 09, 2022, 07:46:58 PM
Jim Barker back with the Argos. Barker will be working as a senior advisor.
:D what an also ran.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: kkc60 on March 10, 2022, 09:49:05 PM
https://3downnation.com/2022/03/10/jalen-saunders-looking-to-make-cfl-return-after-recovering-from-car-accident/

if he?s healthy absolutely no reason the bombers shouldn?t at least give him a shot


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on March 11, 2022, 02:08:35 PM
I hope we're one of the teams in discussion with him. He could be a returner and receiver if he's healthy. He's a little smaller than I'd like to see as a full time receiver but as a rotation player as a DI he could be a good fit. Comes down to health and money.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 11, 2022, 03:14:43 PM
Shamawd Chambers@ShamawdChambers

It?s my birthday and I?m still better than 95% of Wrs in the @CFL



So, is anyone giving him a shot this year?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on March 11, 2022, 03:36:08 PM
Shamawd Chambers@ShamawdChambers

It?s my birthday and I?m still better than 95% of Wrs in the @CFL



So, is anyone giving him a shot this year?

I think that was meant as a tongue-in-cheek comment.

He hasn't played in 5 years.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: ModAdmin on March 11, 2022, 07:25:22 PM
Ed Tait
@EdTaitWFC
3h
Congrats to former @Wpg_BlueBombers
 RB Fred Reid, named today as the RB coach with the @REDBLACKS


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: GCn19 on March 11, 2022, 07:30:18 PM
Ed Tait
@EdTaitWFC
3h
Congrats to former @Wpg_BlueBombers
 RB Fred Reid, named today as the RB coach with the @REDBLACKS

Very happy for Freddy...one of my fave Bombers in his time here. Not sure what he can teach them though. He just ran like the wind...lol. One of those guys that could squeeze through a crack in a wall and then looked like the roadrunner after that.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 11, 2022, 10:06:59 PM
I think that was meant as a tongue-in-cheek comment.

He hasn't played in 5 years.

He's 33... just ripe for Jones to sign in Edm...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Jesse on March 12, 2022, 11:14:22 PM
Seems like Sergio Castillo just signed with the Elks.

Posted a pic on twitter with him signing the contract and a "Go Elks"


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: M.O.A.B. on March 14, 2022, 06:42:04 PM
per aadvark there's a plethora of kickers out there. hoping Walters will be able to see and sign one of 'em.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Ridermania on March 17, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
Riders have signed OL Jamal Campbell.

https://3downnation.com/2022/03/17/roughriders-sign-ratio-breaking-canadian-offensive-lineman-jamal-campbell/


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 17, 2022, 03:19:25 PM
Riders have signed OL Jamal Campbell.

https://3downnation.com/2022/03/17/roughriders-sign-ratio-breaking-canadian-offensive-lineman-jamal-campbell/

Surprised it took that long... wondering why Toronto moved on, did the rest of their Oline improve that much, or did he go the other way...

Can't hurt the Riders, though... will make Fajardo happier... might give him more time to throw to his goalposts...


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: DM83 on March 17, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
Lol!
Why does everything happen to Sask?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: bluebeard on March 20, 2022, 01:32:21 PM
Surprised it took that long... wondering why Toronto moved on, did the rest of their Oline improve that much, or did he go the other way...

Can't hurt the Riders, though... will make Fajardo happier... might give him more time to throw to his goalposts...

I believe that two things happened in To that prompted the Argoes to release him.  First, he had been signed to play in TO this season for 200K and Second, he had a small bonus of 7500 due.  The Exec that signed him was no longer with the team.  The Riders signed him for 130K.  He can play both G and T and is a national.  Really, as far as I can see there was nothing to do with his play...just to much $ for what he did.  TO is up against the Cap also.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Blue In BC on March 20, 2022, 03:10:02 PM
I believe that two things happened in To that prompted the Argoes to release him.  First, he had been signed to play in TO this season for 200K and Second, he had a small bonus of 7500 due.  The Exec that signed him was no longer with the team.  The Riders signed him for 130K.  He can play both G and T and is a national.  Really, as far as I can see there was nothing to do with his play...just to much $ for what he did.  TO is up against the Cap also.

I agree. One of many players released or allowed to hit free agency due to SMS re-calculations. Doesn't help their OL being able to protect their QB and open running lanes for Andrew Harris.

In fact signing AH might have cost them Campbell to a certain degree.


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: theaardvark on March 20, 2022, 07:09:28 PM
It is interesting they have no issue signing AH33... but let a solid Oline ratio breaker leave to sign for $130k in SSK...

My question is, did they not try to re-negotiate?  Or was he uninterested in that?  I'm sure that he would have preferred to stay for the same salary...

Was there something about his season ending injury that factored in?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: bluebeard on March 20, 2022, 09:15:47 PM
I really don't know the circumstances on the releasing of Campbell.  I would think that the brain trust considered who to release.  They would then go to the coach responsible to find out his opinion.  No doubt several players were considered but the 200K contract that John Murphy signed him to was a very big consideration.  Also, Murphy must have thought a lot about Campbell to offer him that contract.  Now with no Murphy to fight for him...Pinball Clements had to make the final decision.

I also don't know if Campbell was offered another contract but I do know that Clements stated that he had to let him down easily.  To me that means no contract was offered.

All this is supposition but maybe someone else has what really happened.  Sorry about that.

Did some more digging and I was wrong.  They (Argos) tried reworking his contract but it did not satisfy Campbell and therefore he was released.  Sorce of Article Toronto Sun newspaper


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 10, 2022, 04:12:13 PM
https://www.riderville.com/2022/05/10/charleston-hughes-is-back-in-green-and-white/ (https://www.riderville.com/2022/05/10/charleston-hughes-is-back-in-green-and-white/)

LOL


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 10, 2022, 06:46:15 PM
https://www.riderville.com/2022/05/10/charleston-hughes-is-back-in-green-and-white/ (https://www.riderville.com/2022/05/10/charleston-hughes-is-back-in-green-and-white/)

LOL

I'm almost giddy with anticipation, the Riders never fail to entertain!

"He's back"

https://twitter.com/sskroughriders/status/1524071110391828481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1524071110391828481%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.riderfans.com%2Fforum%2Fforum%2Fmain-forum%2F834706-riders-sign-charleston-hughes


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 12, 2022, 01:10:53 AM
I'm almost giddy with anticipation, the Riders never fail to entertain!

"He's back"

They always wanted him, he just had too big an ask that crazy TOR was willing to pay.  Now they aren't, so back to SSK for more reasonable money (I'm sure).  The only question now is: what color does he retire in?  Red or Green?


Title: Re: Free Agency - February 8th, 2022 - Other CFL Teams Discusssion/Signings
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2022, 12:47:34 PM
They always wanted him, he just had too big an ask that crazy TOR was willing to pay.  Now they aren't, so back to SSK for more reasonable money (I'm sure).  The only question now is: what color does he retire in?  Red or Green?

My money's on red considering he spent the bulk of his career with the Stampeders and won two championships.