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Title: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Ridermania on July 22, 2021, 05:50:24 PM
Wow, glad the authorities are on top of this potential issue.

https://3downnation.com/2021/07/22/winnipeg-man-arrested-for-allegedly-planning-anti-vaccine-blockade-around-bombers-home-opener/

Honestly hope things work out for all CFL clubs this season!


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on July 22, 2021, 07:35:52 PM
30 years hard labour!


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Tiger on July 23, 2021, 04:01:30 AM
Downtown if people impede traffic, they are warned, ticketed and if necessary arrested.  I expect no more or less from law enforcement at the stadium. 


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Sec223 on July 23, 2021, 12:31:12 PM
30,000 against 10. I like those odds :)


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: blue_or_die on July 23, 2021, 01:29:18 PM
30,000 against 10. I like those odds :)

Yeah, the police getting involved early was more for the protection of the protesters. 30,000 people en route to one of the first events they've been to in a year and a half with a few drinks under their belt and 10 people trying to stop them. That could get ugly.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: pjrocksmb on July 23, 2021, 07:14:37 PM
I don't expect 30K


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Tiger on July 23, 2021, 09:43:41 PM
Yeah, the police getting involved early was more for the protection of the protesters. 30,000 people en route to one of the first events they've been to in a year and a half with a few drinks under their belt and 10 people trying to stop them. That could get ugly.

Yup.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: TecnoGenius on July 24, 2021, 08:19:00 AM
I don't expect 30K

Bingo.  July 23 has 64% Manitobans double-vaccinated.  That means the Bombers/govt have excluded 36% of potential IGF customers.  Let's call it 2/3rds vs 1/3rd for ease of discussion.

If you distribute the unvaccinated rate evenly among Bomber fans, you'll have a third less fans attend than normal.  That's bad for business!

If you do a little thinking, you can probably hone the numbers a little:
a) Bomber fans trend older/senior, and that is a more-vaccinated demo, so that's a plus for attendance;
b) Football fans trend blue collar/old-school/country, less likely to be vaccinated, so that's a negative for attendance;
c) The demos highly vaccinated (other than seniors), may not overlap with football fans, also negative for attendance

So the only hope for a big turnout is if every possible Bomber fan decides to attend, and the numbers overwhelm the loss due to vaccine restriction.

I wouldn't bet money on that.  I wonder what they'll do if attendance is really poor.  I wonder what they'll do if enough long-time STHs are excluded.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Big Daddy on July 24, 2021, 12:01:24 PM
"So the only hope for a big turnout is if every possible Bomber fan decides to attend, and the numbers overwhelm the loss due to vaccine restriction.

I wouldn't bet money on that.  I wonder what they'll do if attendance is really poor.  I wonder what they'll do if enough long-time STHs are excluded
."

Those are some big generalizations and assumptions.

What about the fact that this is the first big event anyone can attend in over 16 months?  There's going to be people not normally attending Bomber games showing up for that.  The walk-up factor could be big in such a unique situation, and it could carry on beyond the first game.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Sec223 on July 24, 2021, 12:42:01 PM
I don't expect 30K

I do !! Look at the ticket map and see whats left. The Bombers always sell more as the game gets closer.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: KINGCHARLES on July 24, 2021, 03:27:17 PM
I don't expect 30K
Bingo.  July 23 has 64% Manitobans double-vaccinated.  That means the Bombers/govt have excluded 36% of potential IGF customers.  Let's call it 2/3rds vs 1/3rd for ease of discussion.

If you distribute the unvaccinated rate evenly among Bomber fans, you'll have a third less fans attend than normal.  That's bad for business!

If you do a little thinking, you can probably hone the numbers a little:
a) Bomber fans trend older/senior, and that is a more-vaccinated demo, so that's a plus for attendance;
b) Football fans trend blue collar/old-school/country, less likely to be vaccinated, so that's a negative for attendance;
c) The demos highly vaccinated (other than seniors), may not overlap with football fans, also negative for attendance

So the only hope for a big turnout is if every possible Bomber fan decides to attend, and the numbers overwhelm the loss due to vaccine restriction.

I wouldn't bet money on that.  I wonder what they'll do if attendance is really poor.  I wonder what they'll do if enough long-time STHs are excluded.


 pjrocksmb I don't expect 30k either, I expect 33,000! Manitobans loved being part of nostalgic, the events that are kind of historical. This will be the first full capacity sporting event in Canada in over 15 months. Tons of people are already getting out and doing everything they've been impatiently waiting to do like patios, beaches, gatherings, movies, and now we get sporting events.

TecnoGenius Well apparently there is less than 5.000 tickets available with 13 days left to sell soooooo you may want to rethink your stats...... my numbers say 33,000-5,000=28,000 paid so far (they go by paid attendance numbers)....
Something you clearly are forgetting is there is people that bring families to games...
crazy thought of the day that you have clearly missed....kids under 12 are allowed in


very possible that the following weeks games draws more of the 22-27k "poor attendance" (minus banjo bowl)....again though Manitobans also like when our teams do well and its not like the 1st game won't have a Grey Cup Banner raising ceremony or anything crazy that would cause for a sell out.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: theaardvark on July 24, 2021, 07:02:23 PM
Bingo.  July 23 has 64% Manitobans double-vaccinated.  That means the Bombers/govt have excluded 36% of potential IGF customers.  Let's call it 2/3rds vs 1/3rd for ease of discussion.

If you distribute the unvaccinated rate evenly among Bomber fans, you'll have a third less fans attend than normal.  That's bad for business!

If you do a little thinking, you can probably hone the numbers a little:
a) Bomber fans trend older/senior, and that is a more-vaccinated demo, so that's a plus for attendance;
b) Football fans trend blue collar/old-school/country, less likely to be vaccinated, so that's a negative for attendance;
c) The demos highly vaccinated (other than seniors), may not overlap with football fans, also negative for attendance

So the only hope for a big turnout is if every possible Bomber fan decides to attend, and the numbers overwhelm the loss due to vaccine restriction.

I wouldn't bet money on that.  I wonder what they'll do if attendance is really poor.  I wonder what they'll do if enough long-time STHs are excluded.


OTOH, 64% = almost 700k people that are able to go, that haven't been to a huge event in over a year.  So, trying to say that the potential crowd is down by 36% is, I think, kinda wrong... the potential crowd is huge, interest is huge, there will be a lot of non-fans going as well...


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 24, 2021, 08:23:53 PM
Going to BB game process?

1) pass blockade

2) confirm 2 Vax process

3) security check

4) click in ticket

My lord like might be Grey Cup like line ups to enter a game!  :-\


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Pigskin on July 24, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
I will take a little inconvenience over not attending football.



Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Pigskin on July 24, 2021, 08:37:58 PM
OTOH, 64% = almost 700k people that are able to go, that haven't been to a huge event in over a year.  So, trying to say that the potential crowd is down by 36% is, I think, kinda wrong... the potential crowd is huge, interest is huge, there will be a lot of non-fans going as well...

Not surprised at his comments. I take them with a grain of salt.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Foxhound on July 24, 2021, 11:51:31 PM
Yeah, the police getting involved early was more for the protection of the protesters. 30,000 people en route to one of the first events they've been to in a year and a half with a few drinks under their belt and 10 people trying to stop them. That could get ugly.

Hmmmm. The alternative of course is for the police to be elsewhere thus allowing the protestors to reap the fruit of their own stupidity.

 :-\


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Tiger on July 25, 2021, 02:05:05 AM
Going to BB game process?

1) pass blockade

2) confirm 2 Vax process

3) security check

4) click in ticket

My lord like might be Grey Cup like line ups to enter a game!  :-\

Cold beer $10

Parking$20

Blue Bomber win with loud fans and arrested misguided protestors. Priceless


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: TecnoGenius on July 26, 2021, 07:53:25 AM
What about the fact that this is the first big event anyone can attend in over 16 months?  There's going to be people not normally attending Bomber games showing up for that.

Yes, if they generate buzz and get the non-football crowd to go out just to get out of the house, then they will do well.  That would be very good for WFC.  The question is are they getting that non-footballer buzz?

I should have added that there's another demo that won't go: the "covid-scared".  I know a few people who are 2x vax and don't want to leave their house except to pick up groceries.  I find it extremely odd, but they do exist (and not old people either!).

How many seats sold are to STHs who aren't 2x vax?  I know 2 STHs that will not get the vax, and Goldie if/when he gets the vax (due to health reasons) it won't be in time.  Are they accommodating those people (refunds, etc)?  Boy that would suck if you had worked up over 2 decades to get front row C field and don't want the vax and you lose your seats and can't regain them when all this nonsense is over.

My lord like might be Grey Cup like line ups to enter a game!  :-\

Funny thing was when I was at the '19 GC game in CGY there was zero line 1hr before the game at my gate and the bag/body checkers just waved me in.  Maybe it's because I had a little kid with me, maybe CGY is just a relaxed place.  IGF is never that lenient.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: Sec227 on July 26, 2021, 03:25:38 PM
I just want to watch football and cheer the blue....If you cant go, donate your tickets to charity, or find a non footballer to give too. I'm sure the bombers would refund cause of underlying health conditions and cant go.

And they are for sure getting buzz. People I know who wouldn't normally go are excited to go. If they can get more butts in the stands. Its great for the team.



Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 27, 2021, 06:34:33 PM
With a sold-out game and all these steps to get in I would arrive there no later than 6 PM. Could take an hour to get into the building. Maybe you can bring a road rocket!


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: blue_or_die on July 27, 2021, 06:53:01 PM
With a sold-out game and all these steps to get in I would arrive there no later than 6 PM. Could take an hour to get into the building. Maybe you can bring a road rocket!

Isn't there just one extra step with checking the vax card/code? I for sure think there will be hiccups checking the cards (confirming against drivers license or scanning the QR, etc), but this might double your time at the gate. I don't think it's taken me longer than 5 minutes in line if I am getting there near kick off, so if that becomes 10 minutes that's not a huge deal.

Usually the time people come is staggered. Some come early to pregame and walk around, some come right for kick off, and others somewhere in between. It's not like everyone comes at once.

Definitely a good idea to err on the side of caution though so they can sort out issues.


Title: Re: Home Opener Blockade Situation
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 27, 2021, 08:11:28 PM
Isn't there just one extra step with checking the vax card/code? I for sure think there will be hiccups checking the cards (confirming against drivers license or scanning the QR, etc), but this might double your time at the gate. I don't think it's taken me longer than 5 minutes in line if I am getting there near kick off, so if that becomes 10 minutes that's not a huge deal.

Usually the time people come is staggered. Some come early to pregame and walk around, some come right for kick off, and others somewhere in between. It's not like everyone comes at once.

Definitely a good idea to err on the side of caution though so they can sort out issues.
true but it has been a while since a 30,000+ fan sell out to. I wish no ill will. I hope it goes smooth.