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Title: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on January 03, 2021, 05:26:40 AM
With the NHL current season season scheduled to start Jan. 13, 2021, it is an appropriate time to start a new thread for the new season.  The 2019/2020 Jets thread will be left up until Jan. 13th when it will be retired.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 03, 2021, 08:55:40 PM
GO JETS GO


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 03, 2021, 09:54:23 PM
Dubois, unsigned RFA, with Columbus, has been allowed to seek a trade in the off season
What if he was okay to consider the Jets.

.tsn.ca/john-tortorella-columbus-jackets-dealing-with-pierre-dubois-trade-desire-out-in-the-open-1.1571835

If Jets were in the mix ........ could Chevy swing a deal including Roslovic & Laine


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 03, 2021, 10:16:33 PM
Dubois a 22 year old , 6-3, 220lb left wing has 158 points in his first 3 years. Dubois signed a 2 year extension on December 30, 2020. 5 Mil. per.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 04, 2021, 12:23:21 AM
Yes, realized as I was typing comment out that I might be wrong, cuz I was vaguely remembering a signing for 2 years ...... just didn't verify ...... My Bad


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 04, 2021, 04:25:53 AM
At 5M per I still like him. Very good young player.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 05, 2021, 04:31:34 AM
Well it's the first day of TC and Laine's agent is already stirring the pot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 06, 2021, 03:40:51 PM
Okay what do we do with Ville and Cole? There is no junior hockey in Canada right now.  I not sure if the Moose will be play in Winnipeg this year or even at all? Are they good enough to make the Jet's??? Do we loan them to a team in one of the European hockey leagues.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 06, 2021, 08:48:40 PM
Humble opinion is ........ both get some time in camp with the reality that they are shortly after in Europe for playing time, especially Perfetti


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 07, 2021, 09:10:53 PM
Sounds like the Jet's 4th. line could be Harkins, Lewis, and Thompson. Apparently they were excellent in the white and blue game. So will it be Appleton or Perreault, with Copp and Lowry?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 10, 2021, 04:14:30 PM
Crazy schedule for the Jet's:

We play Ottawa 3 times in a row. January 19-23. 2 at CTC and 1 at Bell MTS.
We also play Calgary 4 times in a row. Feb. 1-9. 3 at Bell MTS and one at Scotiabank.

There going to be a lot of bad blood. Could get nasty.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 11, 2021, 05:45:18 PM
With Harkins out, It sound like Thompson, Lewis, and Perreault, will be our 4th line. The line is called the "The Dirty 30's line."


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 11, 2021, 08:06:53 PM
WAIVERS -- Perrault, Comrie, Sbisa, Nogier and CJ Seuss ....... so much for the Dirty line

Perrault was running out of gas, not to mention he took too many dives out there & struggled to be healthy & check well
Probably picked up by Detroit or New Jersey ......... or relegated in the end to Jets Taxi squad ....... feeble guessing not based on solid info 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 11, 2021, 08:22:13 PM
WAIVERS -- Perrault, Comrie, Sbisa, Nogier and CJ Seuss ....... so much for the Dirty line

Perrault was running out of gas, not to mention he took too many dives out there & struggled to be healthy & check well
Probably picked up by Detroit or New Jersey ......... or relegated in the end to Jets Taxi squad ....... feeble guessing not based on solid info 

Okay let's spell the man's name right Perreault, and it was the dirty 30's line. And yes, that didn't last long. I am hearing that some of the young players have stepped up, so I am not surprised. Also if Harkin healthy, I am hearing that he played very well with Lewis, and Thompson.

At $4.125M I am not sure to many teams will be interested in him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 12, 2021, 04:31:29 AM
Coach Paul, says MP85 was put on waives due to cap space or lack of cap space. If MP85 clears waives he will be back with the team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 12, 2021, 09:20:36 PM
Coach Paul, says MP85 was put on waives due to cap space or lack of cap space. If MP85 clears waives he will be back with the team.

He cleared waivers this morning and is back with the team, skating on the fourth line last I checked. Harkins is dealing with an injury of some kind but it doesn't sound serious.

Comrie and Sbisa get picked up on the waiver wire, to NJ and NSH, respectively.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 12, 2021, 10:05:03 PM
The Dirty 30's Line back together. lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 12, 2021, 10:26:45 PM
The Dirty 30's Line back together. lol

    Congrats


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 12, 2021, 10:42:34 PM
He cleared waivers this morning and is back with the team, skating on the fourth line last I checked. Harkins is dealing with an injury of some kind but it doesn't sound serious.

Comrie and Sbisa get picked up on the waiver wire, to NJ and NSH, respectively.

Comrie just can't find a home.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 13, 2021, 07:52:50 PM
NE27 could be out for Thursday's game. Covid protocol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 14, 2021, 07:43:50 PM
I am still hearing DD2 and NE27 are out and MP85 is in, will it be Stanley, or Samberg taking Demelo's spot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 14, 2021, 10:30:11 PM
Heard Niku is in but don't as yet know of Ehlers.
If Ehlers is out, then PM said Vesalainen draws in with Copp going to the Scheif line 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 15, 2021, 01:51:36 AM
Much better second period. The Jet's just out played Calgary in the 2nd and 3rd periods. Nice win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 15, 2021, 02:26:27 PM
Laine is a bum, trade him ASAP.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 15, 2021, 03:00:55 PM
The price tag just went up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 15, 2021, 06:48:22 PM
Just got a text from my brother-in-law, how do you like our D. I said ask me after 10 games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 15, 2021, 08:39:56 PM
It's so exciting to win in such fashion ......... next week should be a real test
Thinking Sami N. might get bumped behind Samberg or Logan Stanley for next up due to an injury
Liked Appleton & Poolman's effort 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 15, 2021, 09:54:12 PM
In the old NHL a player would be back a few days after his wife had a baby. In the new NHL, does DD12 have to go through covid protocol again?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 16, 2021, 06:50:11 PM
Jet's practice cancel today, it's covid related. Jet's also pick up Goalie Anton Forsberg off of waivers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 18, 2021, 07:06:24 PM
Looking like PL29 out with upper body. Poolman Covid related, and DeMelo out Baby. Harkins in. Stanley also will get a chance tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 18, 2021, 08:23:49 PM
That gives Niku another game & hopefully he excels
It will be interesting if Perrault goes to 2nd line, or does Copp or maybe Harkins


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 18, 2021, 09:23:02 PM
lol, feels like another eternity since we played that first game. Super condensed schedule and we get a 4 day break?

The injuries suck but I'm excited to see how the replacements fare.

Go JETS GO!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 19, 2021, 04:10:47 AM
lol, feels like another eternity since we played that first game. Super condensed schedule and we get a 4 day break?

The injuries suck but I'm excited to see how the replacements fare.

Go JETS GO!

A couple of goals on the PP would have helped. Helly is playing very well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 19, 2021, 04:23:44 AM
We sure miss a hard shooter from the point.  The threat would be a real value


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 19, 2021, 09:08:36 PM
Brossoit gets the start with Laine again in the Press Box
Expect to see juggling on the lines. Wandering if Ehlers goes back to Scheif & Wheels
..... or does Copp start where he left off. Thought Conner, Ehlers with Stastny took it to the Leafs in 3rd.
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 19, 2021, 11:57:45 PM
Slow start again. Lucky to one back before the end of the period. Hope we get going in the 2nd. period. PP looked better, unlucky KC81.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on January 20, 2021, 03:26:06 AM
Nice OT goal by Ehlers. Hopefully Laine is ready for the rematch on Thursday !


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2021, 03:28:17 AM
Slow start, but a nice finish.

1- Stanley has to stay. Just his size and toughness. Threw BT7 off him with no effort.
2- Nice to see 26,55,81 back together.
3- A win with LB in net is always a plus.
4- Niku has to go.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on January 20, 2021, 03:54:53 PM
So,

2021 Jets are 2-1, yet have led exactly zero seconds in their first three games.  No leads, nada.  Both victories were "skate off" OT wins, both victories came on come from behind efforts.

Not complaining, but this is really not the way yo want to be 2-1... I know, they don't ask how you win, just how many... but still...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2021, 04:18:34 PM
2-1 is 2-1 anyway you slice it. For me this is still TC. Give it another 3-4 games. It will also help to get LP29, Demelo, and Poolman back into the line up. KC81 is on fire, Niku on the other hand, sucks.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 20, 2021, 05:48:42 PM
I will take the two points and run away. Agree aards that it's not sustainable but there is something to be said about a team that can come from behind and win outright and never actually have a lead. For years we were that team that loses every time we are down a goal with a period to go. Having this ability gives me hope. Once the rust wears off we will be able to dominate some nights and not look back.

Remarkable how this exactly mirrored the Calgary game in terms of score. Is it the Tkachuk bros effect? lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2021, 07:12:44 PM
I will take the two points and run away. Agree aards that it's not sustainable but there is something to be said about a team that can come from behind and win outright and never actually have a lead. For years we were that team that loses every time we are down a goal with a period to go. Having this ability gives me hope. Once the rust wears off we will be able to dominate some nights and not look back.

Remarkable how this exactly mirrored the Calgary game in terms of score. Is it the Tkachuk bros effect? lol

Agree, but I loved when Stanley man handle BT7. At 6-7" 245 he's a big boy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 20, 2021, 08:13:38 PM
Agree, but I loved when Stanley man handle BT7. At 6-7" 245 he's a big boy.

Oh for sure. Many (including myself) were very skeptical of Stanley's development but he's proving himself out there. He's got size and he's using it. If he has other weaknesses, make the coach forget about them by being physical!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 20, 2021, 08:23:34 PM
LP29 had a brief skate today and left again early. Not firing the puck like he can.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 20, 2021, 08:54:30 PM
on Saturday I suspect Poolman & Demelo will draw in & unless there is an injury on Thursday, Stanley will go to the sidelines, as of course will Niku (Yay).

Interesting about not getting a lead so far.
Of Note: our PK is 3rd last for proficiency, our Face off WON % of 45.6%,  if not for Stastny's real good 54%,  would be truly pathetic


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 21, 2021, 04:53:57 PM
I expect to see KC/MS/BW line start the game together tonight. A quick start would also be nice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 21, 2021, 10:55:04 PM
Wow .... Ville Heinola gets in with Sami going to the stands


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2021, 12:22:19 AM
3 zip nice start. Niku is trash.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2021, 03:39:45 AM
Jet's had a good game. All 4 lines played well. LS64, and NB88, both showed some toughness at the end of the game. BT7 is just like his brother, loves to throw those cheap shot punches while in a pile.

Our PP needs some work.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on January 22, 2021, 04:16:18 AM
Seems that Ville Heinola had a nice game, and Coach had good things to say about him the post game interview.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 22, 2021, 02:33:16 PM
Love the Stanley-Beaulieu Brash Brothers pairing. I'm sad Niku looks to have exhausted his chances and failed (maybe we can get something for him) but am happy Stanley has surprised despite a lot of criticism with his development. If he can't be a Norris candidate, at least use his physicality to contribute and that's what he looks to be doing and it's working.

I like the idea of Heinola staying and Forbort sitting when DeMelo comes back.

JMo-Heinola
DeMelo-Pionk
Stanley-Beaulieu


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2021, 03:12:09 PM
I think there will be a lot of rotating players to keep them fresh. Covid is also a problem in the NHL. Nice to have some depth.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 22, 2021, 08:54:55 PM
Laine and Thompson are placed on injury reserve.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 22, 2021, 11:53:49 PM
Really nice effort from the team yesterday. Ville & Stanley, working smart,  were rewarded with minutes
With Thompson out, Harkins may become the 4th line center tomorrow
PM has some Dmen to shuffle tomorrow ...... tend to go along with a consensus that Niku is AHL bound

Wonder if Laine?s injury is what he suffered in the short playoffs last year


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 04:18:17 AM
I would say that PL29 was injured in the scrum against the Flames.

DeMelo and Vesalainen in for Saturdays games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 06:39:47 AM
Hockey Insider reporting Dubois for Laine will happen this weekend.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 23, 2021, 06:44:06 AM
Read TSN?s Dreger reporting that he?s heard (not verbatim) that the Jets are front runner for a trade
with Columbus for P-Luc Dubois ........ speculation is that Laine & possibly Roslovic involved.
Also expected Dubois gone by weekend & as early as Saturday. Montreal & Anaheim other teams in mix

Is Chevy willing ?  Maybe we get Dubois, also Seth Jones & Liam Foudy
Jets give up Laine, Roslovic, throw in Niku & Pionk


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 07:59:30 AM
Jones, Foudy, Niku and Pionk have not been linked to any trade rumors. Wishful thinking only.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 23, 2021, 10:04:09 AM
Correct


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 23, 2021, 03:05:22 PM
On 1290, Illegal Curve show, they had Breaking News where Dreger now reports that
a Trade Call was being set up with the NHL for a trade between Columbus & Jets
     Things Getting Real


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 23, 2021, 03:18:59 PM
Done ...... confirmed by Jet office Laine & Roslovic for Dubois & 3rd Rd. 2022 pick


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 04:06:28 PM
LP29 didn't want to be here which was to bad, but we are getting a great player in return. Hopefully our PP will pickup which PLD gets here.

Roslovic also another guy that was done in Winnipeg. Would have like to see a little bit more for him, but the drama is over and the Jet's can get on with the season.

Jet's will also have to pay 26% of PL29 salary.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 04:16:40 PM
Now we will have MS55, PS25, AL17, TL23, and PLD all centers. Where and with who will PLD play after quarantine.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on January 23, 2021, 04:34:05 PM
The GM in Carolina is Finn,  Jarmo Kekalainen, so maybe he that helped influence Patrick.
Too bad we could not get a defenceman in the deal.
We will miss Patricks amazing shot.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 05:00:29 PM
Apples and Oranges. Laine wanted out of Winnipeg, Teemu and Teppo loved it here.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 23, 2021, 05:02:19 PM
Don't really like it cause I liked Laine and his laser shot.  He had some personality....

Challenge of being in Winnipeg I guess.  So was this guy drafted right after Laine ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 05:11:16 PM
#3 in the same draft one behind PL.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 05:13:07 PM
Dubois a 22 year old , 6-3, 220lb left wing has 158 points in his first 3 years. Dubois signed a 2 year extension on December 30, 2020. 5 Mil. per.


He is under control for this year and next.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
Would be nice to see PS25 get going tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 06:12:37 PM
Jet's tonight 9pm CBC.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 23, 2021, 06:12:42 PM
Hadn?t realized that Dubois?s father is an asst coach with the Mb Moose
Underwhelmed that it was a 3rd rd pick vs at least a 2nd rounder.
Dubois, who is a star, will only get better surrounded by the talented forwards here.

Laine gave us some great thrills and I wish him the best under a tough coach in Torts


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 23, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
Demelo draws in, Ville H. out, Stanley stays in as Poolman won?t draw in

Agree that it would be nice to watch PS25 heat up starting tonight


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 06:26:47 PM
Vesalainen in for Thompson.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 23, 2021, 07:03:18 PM
He is under control for this year and next.

He'll still be a RFA once his contract is up. Jets gotta re-sign him, IMO. It'll make this trade better.

Still can't believe Laine is gone.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 07:26:31 PM
He'll still be a RFA once his contract is up. Jets gotta re-sign him, IMO. It'll make this trade better.

Still can't believe Laine is gone.

It's going to a shock for all the Jet's fans that didn't believe he wanted to be traded. PL wanted out of Winnipeg and he got his wish. Will miss that big shot on the PP.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 23, 2021, 09:43:22 PM
Roslovic has signed a 2 year deal with the Blue Jackets for 3.8M.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 23, 2021, 10:02:42 PM
Let's get something for Blake wheeler while we can...he is morphing into my least fav Jet for some reason


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Waffler on January 23, 2021, 10:05:19 PM
Walked past a store with 2 Jets jerseys hanging in the window.  A Laine and a Byfuglien. How fast things can change.

Personally I think Laine will not mesh with Tortorella.  


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2021, 12:00:44 AM
Let's get something for Blake wheeler while we can...he is morphing into my least fav Jet for some reason

What team would want him and his contract? And why is your least favourite player?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: The Zipp on January 24, 2021, 12:58:30 AM
What team would want him and his contract? And why is your least favourite player?

Prob none...just seems to be arrogant and a bit of a jerk...that is just a feeling more than a solid observation. From an on ice perspective I think he is fading fast from a skill perspective. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 24, 2021, 03:48:06 AM
If we trade our top R winger, who do we have then. Appleton.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 24, 2021, 04:27:29 AM
Finally our PP scores. And it was PS25. PS25, 3 points, BW26, 3 points, MS55 3 points.  AC9, 2 goals.

Helly: A few weak goals tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 24, 2021, 03:43:43 PM
Jet's back on the ice tonight. 8pm. A win tonight and we are tied with Montreal in first place.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 24, 2021, 05:47:05 PM
The Jet's right now are pretty depleted at RW. This leaves the team with two right wingers that actually shot right. Even Cole Perfetti shots left. PLD also shots Left. Stastny who has played wing, also shots left. Ehlers, Copp, and Lowry, all left.

Now that we have MS55, PLD, and AL17, where does Cole fit in? Will Stastny be back?

 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 24, 2021, 07:30:18 PM
Stats has a real good entry on the boxscore with 3 points ---- terrific   Was a shock to see HellB look bad on a couple of goals
The play of Stanley again impressed me.

Checked stats the past 3 seasons & indeed we lose an exceptional power play finisher in Laine ..... he had 43 goals & 27 assists.
Whereas Dubois, on a less prolific scoring team, had 9 goals & 25 assists on the Power Play
 Of Note: Dubois played 2 more games in those 3 seasons & logged a +8, -2 & +16 plus/minus ..... while Laine went +8, -24 & +8.

Can't wait to watch Dubois blend in with our team on the ice.    Torts, I believe, has taught him to be a truly good 200ft. player.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 25, 2021, 12:04:27 AM
Prob none...just seems to be arrogant and a bit of a jerk...that is just a feeling more than a solid observation. From an on ice perspective I think he is fading fast from a skill perspective. 

He had three points last night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 25, 2021, 04:37:18 AM
Heart breaker.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 25, 2021, 06:02:02 AM
Great entertainment ........ such a crusher at the end


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on January 25, 2021, 02:24:46 PM
Prob none...just seems to be arrogant and a bit of a jerk...that is just a feeling more than a solid observation. From an on ice perspective I think he is fading fast from a skill perspective. 

During the EDM game last night they mentioned Wheeler is 1st in the NHL in assists since 2015-16.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 25, 2021, 06:32:55 PM
Horrible way to go last night. Roller coaster. Down a goal going into the third, tie, get ahead with ~5 mins left, then a sudden goal for EDM to tie....and then 0.7 on the clock happened. I'm still livid.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 25, 2021, 08:40:41 PM
Coach P. says the the boy's were pretty gassed at the end of the game last night. 5 in 7, and Edmonton with a day before last nights game.

PLD will wear number #13 with the Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 25, 2021, 08:54:26 PM
MS 55, BW26, MA22 all shoot right.

81/13/55

27/25/26

9/17/22

85/23/12



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 25, 2021, 09:41:44 PM
MS 55, BW26, MS22 all shoot right.

81/13/55

27/25/26

9/17/22

85/23/12



Isn't 22 Appleton?  ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 25, 2021, 10:27:19 PM
MA22 is Appleton, got distracted with the announcement of Coach M leaving EE. Cazy. Took a job with the Colts as a QB coach.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 26, 2021, 05:26:32 PM
Ken Wiebe believes the lines will be:

81/55/26
27/13/25
9/17/22
85/23/12

At least for the first couple of weeks.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 26, 2021, 07:47:07 PM
 Dubois is going to wear #13 with the Jets.
On the second line you have a #13 centering Ehlers & Stats  ..... is Dubois playing tonight or is
this just speculation for when he?s in
Hadn?t yet listened or caught up on today?s lineup


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 26, 2021, 07:50:35 PM
 It's all spec. to when #13 PLD is finally in the line-up. Tonight's line-up is probably the same as Sunday. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 27, 2021, 04:21:13 AM
The 2nd and 3rd lines played very well tonight. AC9/ NE27 both with 4 points. AL17 with 3 points, and PS25 with 2 points.

Helly didn't look sharp in the first 10 minutes of the game. Much better after that.

Right now our top 3 lines are really playing well. Where does PLD13 fit in?????



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on January 27, 2021, 04:20:17 PM
Fantastic game last night and an even better win. Jets really turned it on in the third period. 2nd and 3rd lines were outstanding.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 27, 2021, 05:37:26 PM
Jet's on a nice well deserved break till Saturday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on January 27, 2021, 06:05:29 PM
Revenge like that helps me stomach the way we lost Sunday. 1-1 in that series, with a clean 4 points divided equally to both teams.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 27, 2021, 09:12:16 PM
I am very happy with our team right now. However our PP does need to get better. To inconsistent. We look great on one PP and garbage on the next 2/3.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on January 27, 2021, 11:16:06 PM
During Dubois' two week COVID isolation, is he allowed to skate and practice on his own?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 27, 2021, 11:35:12 PM
Back to back highly entertaining games ........ can?t help but be impressed with the Jets
Though it looks like Dubois isn?t needed at the moment I can?t help but be disappointed with this
crummy 14 day quarantine on a player being tested daily from what I heard.

In my humble opinion, PM consistently, even in previous years, shows such poor faith in the 4th line.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on January 27, 2021, 11:59:42 PM
During Dubois' two week COVID isolation, is he allowed to skate and practice on his own?

I think isolation means he?s stuck in a hotel room.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 28, 2021, 03:50:16 AM
The Jet's drop off a peloton and some workout bands and say see you in 14 days.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 28, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Saw on TSN - NHL Transactions that Stanley got moved to Taxi Squad ..... Poolman was still listed under Covid Protocol ...... perhaps Heinola will be in on Saturday


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 29, 2021, 06:22:47 PM
Cole Perfetti skating with the Jet's for the next couple of days. Giving CP time with the big boy's will let Moe and the club know where he's at.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 30, 2021, 07:26:32 PM
9 pm start tonight. Looks like the same lineup as last game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on January 31, 2021, 07:48:45 AM
Terrible game for the Jet's. 1st line was terrible. 4th. line hardy played, CH37 made a lot of good saves. 2nd. and 3rd. lines had chances and couldn't get a bounce to go there way.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on January 31, 2021, 06:29:07 PM
Good summation ..... add that Morrissey was a stinking -4 & still rarely skates the puck over centre
let alone our own end


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 01, 2021, 02:48:24 PM
7 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 01, 2021, 05:08:55 PM
Line juggling will hopefully help cut down the high danger chances the Flames have


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 01, 2021, 06:08:28 PM
Line juggling will hopefully help cut down the high danger chances the Flames have

I disagree, our lines where fine against Ottawa and Edmonton. D has to play much better. To many opposing forwards left wide open in front of our net.

Our 1st. line was terrible the other night. They need to be much better.

PP has to be much better, and more consistent. Our teams have figured out what we are doing and have a D man sprawl out which taking BW26 passing lane away. We also don't have a D man that can rifles the puck.

Our PK is one of the worst in the league. PK must get better and more consistent.

Also a better start time for the Jet's tonight. 9pm Winnipeg time is a terrible start. That's beer league start time in Winnipeg.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on February 01, 2021, 09:29:17 PM
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the Jets wanted to improve their goals against, cut down on "high danger" scoring chances allowed, and generally tighten up defensively. If so, have we abandoned this plan, or is it still a work in progress ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 02, 2021, 12:43:38 AM
PP looks good so far tonight. That bad goal hurt.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 02, 2021, 05:14:09 AM
Bad goal was a killer & yikes, Flames had some terrific high scoring chances

Why was MP87 shooting in the shootout ?   Also, MS55 cuts off so much of his shooting option drifting down rt. side in shootout 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Stretch on February 02, 2021, 04:20:26 PM
Why was MP87 shooting in the shootout ?  

Guessing you mean MP85, but totally agree. Maybe Ehlers was in the can.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 02, 2021, 04:52:12 PM
Guessing you mean MP85, but totally agree. Maybe Ehlers was in the can.

PM is a little too old school sometimes.

Ehlers was at the back of the line because he hasn't scored a soot out goal before.

Well, he never will, if he doesn't get the opportunity.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 02, 2021, 04:54:35 PM
PM is a little too old school sometimes.

Ehlers was at the back of the line because he hasn't scored a soot out goal before.

Well, he never will, if he doesn't get the opportunity.

I like Ehlers better then MP85. NP4, JM44, or how about KV93.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 02, 2021, 05:06:34 PM
I like Ehlers better then MP85. NP4, JM44, or how about KV93.

I would absolutely be trotting out Connor and Ehlers before anyone else.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 02, 2021, 05:14:29 PM
I would absolutely be trotting out Connor and Ehlers before anyone else.

Connor shot earlier in the round, can't shot again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 02, 2021, 05:18:17 PM
Connor shot earlier in the round, can't shot again.

I understand. I'm just saying they'd be my first two.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 02, 2021, 07:23:24 PM
7 pm start again today.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 02, 2021, 08:13:24 PM
PM is a little too old school sometimes.

Ehlers was at the back of the line because he hasn't scored a soot out goal before.

Well, he never will, if he doesn't get the opportunity.

To be fair, and for what it's worth, PM said Ehlers was next up.

I didn't hate the pick as many as others did, but it did reek of classic organization loyalty.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on February 03, 2021, 03:05:31 AM
Nice rematch win over Calgary tonight, including a decent second period.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 03, 2021, 04:18:45 AM
LB was very good tonight. Total team effort. MT19 still sucker punching people. Nice to see the 4th line chip in tonight. I also thought that the MS55 penalty was BS.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 03, 2021, 06:28:55 PM
Great victory in this playoff-like "series"


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 03, 2021, 06:44:08 PM
We will only get better with PLD13 in the line up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 03, 2021, 06:48:42 PM
We will only get better with PLD13 in the line up.

I keep forgetting we have so far been missing a top 6 player (with top 3 ability) for all games this season but our first.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 03, 2021, 08:10:28 PM
7pm start again tonight. Big game for the Jet's to keep pace with Toronto, and Montreal. After this game a nice break and then we finally will see PLD13.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 04, 2021, 04:25:11 PM
13 minutes for 26 last game... and more D breakdowns for him.  He HAS to be injured, this cannot just be brain farts. 

PLD13 coming in will hopefully allow him to have a seat for a few games to rest and heal.  If it is not a health issue, then he really needs to fix his game, take his 200" game back to a 200' game...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 04, 2021, 05:38:24 PM
He could be hurt, know he has missed a couple of team skates. But it was Connor on the lazy back check last game. Like Moe said, people are making far to much of this. He is a -9 which isn't usual for BW26, but JM44 is -4, and KC81 is also -4. More then one person is miss assignments.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 04, 2021, 06:57:54 PM
Massive team effort needed tonight ...... have to get close to Markstrom for banging at rebounds & getting deflections

It's vital that our Dmen make good decisions & reduce turnovers.   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 04, 2021, 08:33:34 PM
No Sam Bennett tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 04, 2021, 09:35:45 PM
He could be hurt, know he has missed a couple of team skates. But it was Connor on the lazy back check last game. Like Moe said, people are making far to much of this. He is a -9 which isn't usual for BW26, but JM44 is -4, and KC81 is also -4. More then one person is miss assignments.

26 was definitely on a lazy backcheck on at least one goal last night...   -2 last night, he was on the ice for both CGY goals. 

-9 in the last 5 games, and only one of them he played more than 20 min....

If he isn't injured, he needs to sit.  If he is injured, he needs to sit.  Leadership isn't always "gutting it out", sometimes it is sitting down so you don't hurt the team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 04, 2021, 10:15:07 PM
I was on the "wheeler is a bum" train before it was cool to be on that train...

;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 05, 2021, 03:13:04 AM
Really impressed by the smart play & of course enjoyed the result
HellB had very good positioning, Appleton deserved the 2 goals, hooray for MP85 with 3 assists & Pionk was solid on the boards

Is it just me but does anyone else hope that we are in the infancy of watching Stanley become a Chara in a Jet uni ??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on February 05, 2021, 03:45:58 AM
Nice team effort in beating Calgary after spotting them the first goal.
Can't wait to see Dubois in action !


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2021, 04:16:10 AM
I was on the "wheeler is a bum" train before it was cool to be on that train...

;)

Your in the 10%, but I am glad your on that train.

Solid effort, now we get a little rest. Someone send PL13 a Timmis.

I was very happy with our 4th line tonight.

Not a fan of our new uniforms.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 05, 2021, 06:09:24 PM
A splendid nutting.

The reverse retros are growing on me, for whatever the concept is worth.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2021, 06:36:09 PM
I was more then a little pissed when JR decided he want a trade and to play his hockey in the US. JR has been improving each year and with PL29 on his way out JR would have moved up to right wing on the 2nd line. But that water under the bridge and now App's is get some very important rep's and is starting to real step up. he looks very strong with the puck, he skates well, and battles hard.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 05, 2021, 08:03:03 PM
JR and PL "opening up" spots for other players now is a thing.  I'm loving what some of the younger guys are bringing now that they have a chance.  Watching the game, the forth line was constantly getting minutes in the offensive zone (as the announcers continually repeat).  There is a lot to be excited about on this roster.  Even guys like Gustafson have been raising their stock recently, and don't get me going on Stanley... big hopes he develops like a Buff or Chara... or at least a Myers...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 07, 2021, 06:08:27 PM
PL13 should be skating with the Jet's today. Would liked to have been at that practice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 07, 2021, 06:27:48 PM
caught this on Ice Chips  ......... lines in today's practice

 Ehlers-Scheifele-Copp             
                                Vesalainen-Stastny-Wheeler
    Connor-Dubois-Lewis
                                 Perreault-Lowry-Appleton

Surprise surprise


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 08, 2021, 04:17:32 PM
PL13 will be on the 2nd. pp unit to start. His ice time minutes will depend on his conditioning. Probably with take him a 2-3 games to get back into game shape.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 09, 2021, 05:03:23 PM
So psyched to watch the new look Jets.
In theory I do like it
Will PM panic if things are not offensively gelling after 2 periods.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 09, 2021, 06:19:16 PM
Our long wait ends tonight!

...late tonight. lol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 09, 2021, 06:37:05 PM
Late starts are okay when your retired. lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 09, 2021, 08:15:21 PM
Hopefully PLD doesn't get benched... ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 09, 2021, 08:33:30 PM
Late starts are okay when your retired. lol

I should really look into that..


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 10, 2021, 03:18:22 AM
Not even 1/2 way in 2nd & for 2 shifts in a row Appleton is in place of Lewis with PLD & Connor


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 10, 2021, 02:37:42 PM
Heartbreaking loss in an even game from a ticky tack call after the refs put their whistles away for the night (or at least we thought).

The game should have gone to overtime and flipped a coin for two points. Instead we came out with none  >:(


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 10, 2021, 03:33:17 PM
I like the adjustment MOE made to our lines midway through the game. I think we mite see Wheeler with PL13, and KC81, at some point.

I also didn't like the penalty call at the end of the game. Either your calling penalties or your not.

We also gave away the puck a lot in our own end, and to many passes in front of there net. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2021, 03:49:39 PM
Game one of Margarita line changes... for it to have been even this close, and stolen by a bad officiating call, I was surprised. 

PM better figure this out quick, no more Liane ego to deal with, these are team players to a one now, and he should be able to make lines that work on all levels.  I have no issues with 26, 13, 81 or 27, 25, 22. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 10, 2021, 03:54:08 PM
Game one of Margarita line changes... for it to have been even this close, and stolen by a bad officiating call, I was surprised. 

PM better figure this out quick, no more Liane ego to deal with, these are team players to a one now, and he should be able to make lines that work on all levels.  I have no issues with 26, 13, 81 or 57, 25, 22. 

Who is 57???????


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 10, 2021, 03:59:06 PM
Who is 57???????

Thanks for the heads up... 27... fat fingers, small keyboard...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 10, 2021, 04:10:49 PM
I was thinking why, when MOE broke up 85/17/22 after just having a great game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 10, 2021, 08:18:31 PM
Was feeling that Dmen were sloppy with their decisions & errant passes gave us much unneeded concern in our end
Also was somewhat surprised that 85, 17 & 22 were broken up

Of note ...... #25 PS has struggled IMO ...... has 6 pts to date which came in 3 games, including 3 vs Ott. in a game.  Was a plus 6 in those 3 games.
Pointless in 1st 4 games & now last 4 games, including just 2 shots which both came in a single game.
Though he appears to be part of 1st unit on PP, he only has a single pt. (1 goal).     He is our best faceoff man to date but methodical pace should be a concern 
............ getting Dubois up to speed should cut into 25's ice time significantly       


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 10, 2021, 08:43:25 PM
Give it a couple more games and PS25 will be our 4th line C.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 10, 2021, 09:39:28 PM
Heartbreaking loss in an even game from a ticky tack call after the refs put their whistles away for the night (or at least we thought).

The game should have gone to overtime and flipped a coin for two points. Instead we came out with none  >:(

Inexcusable penalty for Beaulieu to take late in the game but Gaudreau really exaggerated the effect. What bugs me is how the vicious cross-check by Bennett on Morrissey moments earlier was simply ignored. That's a good way to injure a player.

A point out of last night's game seemed like a given but then to end up with none, especially with the four-point swing, really stings.

I hope Dubois is ready for a heavier workload starting tomorrow.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 11, 2021, 02:31:06 PM
7:00 pm start tonight. I would like to see Tuck Poolman get back into the lineup.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 11, 2021, 04:06:52 PM
7:00 pm start tonight. I would like to see Tuck Poolman get back into the lineup.

Looks like he is!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 11, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
7:00 pm start tonight. I would like to see Tuck Poolman get back into the lineup.

7 pm? I thought we only ever started at 9 pm this year.. ::)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 11, 2021, 07:03:00 PM
7pm. TSN5.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2021, 08:07:01 PM
7pm. TSN5.

TSN5 will be blacked out locally. It's on TSN3 for this region, like any other locally broadcasted Jets game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 11, 2021, 08:58:54 PM
Probably Poolman in for Stanley ......... DeMelo needs to get his basic game going more consistently


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2021, 09:15:04 PM
Probably Poolman in for Stanley ......... DeMelo needs to get his basic game going more consistently

According to Ken Wiebe, Stanley is still in the line-up and it sounds like the team is going to run 11 forwards and 7 defenders.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 11, 2021, 09:16:27 PM
Injury report says Stanley is injured. To bad I thought he was playing well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2021, 09:22:21 PM
Injury report says Stanley is injured. To bad I thought he was playing well.

What injury report? According to Illegal Curve, he'll be paired with Poolman for tonight's game: https://illegalcurve.com/game-13-jets-vs-senators-pre-game-report/ (https://illegalcurve.com/game-13-jets-vs-senators-pre-game-report/)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 11, 2021, 09:28:00 PM
Go into NHL scores tonight. Check The Injury Report For The Jet's Game. It shows Logan Stanley, day to day.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 11, 2021, 09:54:23 PM
Go into NHL scores tonight. Check The Injury Report For The Jet's Game. It shows Logan Stanley, day to day.

He practiced today if it means anything.

I think Poolman is still a game time decision but it seems like Stanley may be the one coming off for TP if he plays.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 12:49:32 AM
Well we played good for 2 minutes of that period. Out shot 17-6. Helly, the PK, and Stacey where all very good.

Helly had a very good game. I was hoping for the shutout.

PL13 needs a couple more games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on February 12, 2021, 02:32:03 AM
Nice win tonight, but Dubois still has no shots on goal in his two games with the Jets. I was hoping he would score against Ottawa tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 02:33:00 PM
I not worried about PL13. He played much better tonight. Give him another game or two.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 03:36:22 PM
Saturday's game starts at 2pm on CBC. Prime fishing time, mite have to miss the first period. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 03:54:47 PM
Just as you see this team taking form I was reminded that this year there will be an Expansion Draft.

Each team must make expose 1 D-man, and 2 Forwards who are under contract for the 2021/2022 season.

The players must have played 40 games in 2020/2021, or 70 games over the 2019/20 & 2020/21 seasons combined.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 12, 2021, 06:01:40 PM
Just as you see this team taking form I was reminded that this year there will be an Expansion Draft.

Each team must make expose 1 D-man, and 2 Forwards who are under contract for the 2021/2022 season.

The players must have played 40 games in 2020/2021, or 70 games over the 2019/20 & 2020/21 seasons combined.

Is the date set for this?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 06:21:53 PM
Is the date set for this?

I am not sure of the date.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 06:51:04 PM
My grandson did a little home work this morning.

Stastny.     UFA       5M.                          Pionk    RFA      3M
Perreault.   UFA       4.125M                    Forbort  UFA      1M
Lowry.        UFA       2.9M                       Stanley  RFA     863K
Copp.         RFA       2.2M                       Poolman UFA     775K
Lewis         UFA       750K

Harkins is signed for next year and has played 38 games.
Wheeler is scheduled to make 10M next year with a cap hit 8.2M. May have a no move cause.
Beaulieu is signed for next year at 1.25M.

Little will be another ? for the Jet's next year.
     


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 09:27:38 PM
Overdrive reporting, Matt Murray is out for Saturday's game. Ottawa will have to go with Hogberg.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 12, 2021, 10:18:53 PM
TSN reporting that PL13 left practice early today with tightness. MOE says he's probable for Saturday's game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2021, 07:08:36 PM
PL13 will not play today, crappy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 13, 2021, 10:47:55 PM
Sloppy game, terrible give away at the end of the game. Lost another point in the last couple of seconds of a game. But hey at least the walleye's were biting today.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 14, 2021, 06:31:14 PM
PL13 will not play today, crappy.

Gonna miss tomorrow too.

:(


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 14, 2021, 08:10:32 PM
Big game tomorrow. 1 point behind the Oilers, but we have 2 games in hand.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on February 15, 2021, 01:57:52 PM
Coach better play the right players. He sits the wrong players.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 15, 2021, 04:50:12 PM
Coach better play the right players. He sits the wrong players.

Who mite you be thinking?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on February 15, 2021, 08:40:31 PM
He sits logan stanley. He plays the top line in the last minute of regulation. Difnt really need to fo that. . Anx hellebuyck should stay in his net


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 15, 2021, 11:13:19 PM
Roslovic and Laine heating up...early indications are we lost that trade. Our guy has "tightness"...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 16, 2021, 12:47:45 AM
Roslovic and Laine heating up...early indications are we lost that trade. Our guy has "tightness"...

Neither Roslovic nor Laine had to sit for nearly three weeks.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 16, 2021, 02:50:46 AM
Roslovic and Laine heating up...early indications are we lost that trade. Our guy has "tightness"...

Both have played well, PL29 got punched out the other night. He should leave that to others.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 16, 2021, 04:13:57 AM
Helly was very good. AL17 manhandling Nurse was my highlight of the night. Wheeler scores the winner. Well deserved 2 points.

Getting out shot 45-27, and out hit 37-17, was not very good.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 16, 2021, 02:16:50 PM
Helly was very good. KL17 manhandling Nurse was my highlight of the night. Wheeler scores the winner. Well deserved 2 points.

Getting out shot 45-27, and out hit 37-17, was not very good.

Kyle Lowry??  :D

Crazy game last night. We looked like the Oilers in our own end haha. Stoked that we came out of that firestorm with a clean 2 points.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 16, 2021, 02:19:02 PM
Roslovic and Laine heating up...early indications are we lost that trade. Our guy has "tightness"...

Can you really lose a trade after a week or two?  ???

I hated the Laine trade too but we will have to see what happens over the course of seasons I think.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: The Zipp on February 16, 2021, 03:53:12 PM
Can you really lose a trade after a week or two?  ???

I hated the Laine trade too but we will have to see what happens over the course of seasons I think.

No you can't - just fodder for discussion.  It's what we do in all sports and teams...classic fan overreaction but I still do it. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 16, 2021, 04:10:33 PM
Kyle Lowry??  :D

Crazy game last night. We looked like the Oilers in our own end haha. Stoked that we came out of that firestorm with a clean 2 points.

Yes, AL17. Players in the NHL should have gotten on board after he took on Reeves last year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 16, 2021, 04:18:17 PM
Can you really lose a trade after a week or two?  ???

I hated the Laine trade too but we will have to see what happens over the course of seasons I think.

This. It's way, way too early to make that call. And it's not like the Jets are losing games because Laine or Roslovic isn't in the lineup, anyway.

Dubois being out sucks, he's only played two games and was clearly still shaking off rust from sitting out due to quarantine protocol. But once he's back to game speed, he will make this team better - depth down the middle is invaluable.

If the Jets can keep winning games, there's less of a need to rush him back. However, this is a setback for him and the team, albeit a minor one. What the heck is a mechanism issue, anyway?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 16, 2021, 06:09:03 PM
This. It's way, way too early to make that call. And it's not like the Jets are losing games because Laine or Roslovic is in the lineup, anyway.

Dubois being out sucks, he's only played two games and was clearly still shaking off rust from sitting out due to quarantine protocol. But once he's back to game speed, he will make this team better - depth down the middle is invaluable.

If the Jets can keep winning games, there's less of a need to rush him back. However, this is a setback for him and the team, albeit a minor one. What the heck is a mechanism issue, anyway?

I agree, let's get him in shape and healthy, before we bring him back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 16, 2021, 07:10:00 PM
Geez, never thought we would survive the onslaught ......... HellB was great
Really liked the speed & effort of Harkins  ...... also Go Appleton Go
 
Still puzzled when I see MS55 out in the last minute of these "hold on" games we keep having
DeMelo better hit the rewind button cuz we need him to get back to a more reliable Dman ........ just an opinion & am cheering for him 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 17, 2021, 03:12:37 AM
PL13 skated today, but not likely to play tomorrow.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 17, 2021, 06:16:16 PM
9pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 18, 2021, 05:52:30 AM
Loss is a loss but ........ really a very good team effort


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 18, 2021, 05:54:12 PM
Loss is a loss but ........ really a very good team effort

It's too bad about those two early defensive breakdowns leading to Puljujarvi and Draisaitl's goals. That was the difference.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2021, 07:00:00 PM
It's too bad about those two early defensive breakdowns leading to Puljujarvi and Draisaitl's goals. That was the difference.

21 seconds... Better than 8 seconds, I suppose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 18, 2021, 07:19:39 PM
Well, Chevy can dine out on the Pionk acquisition... got Pionk and the pick that became Heinola, for a guy that would never sign here longterm and is playing on the second pair, in New York, for 8 mil a year...  larceny

We will judge this deal after both players sign their next contract.  If Laine signs in Columbus and continues his trajectory as the sniper getting 40-50 a year from the top of the circle, we whave to reconsider... but if he doesn't sign there, whoops.  It may end up a comparison of PLD13 and Roslovic, good chance both sign with their present teams long term... we probably win that comparison...



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 18, 2021, 07:59:23 PM
Well, Chevy can dine out on the Pionk acquisition... got Pionk and the pick that became Heinola, for a guy that would never sign here longterm and is playing on the second pair, in New York, for 8 mil a year...  larceny

We will judge this deal after both players sign their next contract.  If Laine signs in Columbus and continues his trajectory as the sniper getting 40-50 a year from the top of the circle, we whave to reconsider... but if he doesn't sign there, whoops.  It may end up a comparison of PLD13 and Roslovic, good chance both sign with their present teams long term... we probably win that comparison...



I could be wrong but I thought the biggest problem with Laine was that he wanted to be traded for whatever reason so, like Trouba, we had to get something for him. I have no doubt Laine will become the 40+ goal sniper but it's no use if he's unhappy here and won't sign long term.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 18, 2021, 08:41:20 PM
I could be wrong but I thought the biggest problem with Laine was that he wanted to be traded for whatever reason so, like Trouba, we had to get something for him. I have no doubt Laine will become the 40+ goal sniper but it's no use if he's unhappy here and won't sign long term.

I still wonder if he actually wanted out. He never seemed genuinely unhappy here and enjoyed a lot of success during his tenure as a Jet. His agent's comments prior to the season carried obvious implications but I doubt it was to go play in Columbus. He seems like the type who wants to play in a major market like LA or NY where his personality and natural talent can be on full display.

I can't help but wonder if he played that card using his agent to try and see if he'd get a top 3 role but was ultimately called on his bluff and then traded last month simply for the organization to avoid a bad situation by him sitting out next off-season. And it just so happened Dubois would be a very good return, so Cheveldayoff pulled the trigger while also moving Roslovic. Fortuitous circumstances, IMO.

Of course I'm speculating but Laine doesn't seem like the type who wanted to end up in Ohio to continue his pro hockey career.

To that end, I don't know if it's reasonable to compare his situation to Trouba's. The latter wanted out (and I'll be the first to admit I was wrong on that) but it seemed like it was more for personal reasons than wanting a bigger role (he was a top pairing defender here) in a higher profile NHL market.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 18, 2021, 09:23:02 PM
I still wonder if he actually wanted out. He never seemed genuinely unhappy here and enjoyed a lot of success during his tenure as a Jet. His agent's comments prior to the season carried obvious implications but I doubt it was to go play in Columbus. He seems like the type who wants to play in a major market like LA or NY where his personality and natural talent can be on full display.

I can't help but wonder if he played that card using his agent to try and see if he'd get a top 3 role but was ultimately called on his bluff and then traded last month simply for the organization to avoid a bad situation by him sitting out next off-season. And it just so happened Dubois would be a very good return, so Cheveldayoff pulled the trigger while also moving Roslovic. Fortuitous circumstances, IMO.

Of course I'm speculating but Laine doesn't seem like the type who wanted to end up in Ohio to continue his pro hockey career.

To that end, I don't know if it's reasonable to compare his situation to Trouba's. The latter wanted out (and I'll be the first to admit I was wrong on that) but it seemed like it was more for personal reasons than wanting a bigger role (he was a top pairing defender here) in a higher profile NHL market.

Trouba needed out for family reasons (his fiance needed to work in a US hospital to continue her education, I guess she needs a job because Trouba only makes $8 mil a year ;) )   Probably didn't care the size of the market as much as what opportunity it presented for his fiance.   He really needs to thank Maurice/Huddy for grooming his to get that$56mil offer...

Laine is completely different, he wants that spotlight, he wants top minutes and accolades.  Kinda makes sense, since the word "team" in Finnish actually contains 3 I's... "tiimi"   

Seriously... I did not realize that the "There is no I in TEAM" was that innapropriate for addressing Finnish players... 

Explains a lot....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 19, 2021, 06:42:34 PM
Trouba needed out for family reasons (his fiance needed to work in a US hospital to continue her education, I guess she needs a job because Trouba only makes $8 mil a year ;) )   Probably didn't care the size of the market as much as what opportunity it presented for his fiance.   He really needs to thank Maurice/Huddy for grooming his to get that$56mil offer...

Trouba spent six years with this organization and played over 400 games as a Jet, earning over $17M over that span. It isn't like he didn't put in the work himself to become the player and teammate he is now. It isn't like his departure was on bad terms, anyway. He doesn't owe this organization anything, IMO.

FWIW, I don't think his current contract is a friendly one for any team but that's got nothing to do with what he brings to the table as a player. Salary implications aside, I'd kill to have him and Morrissey back as a top pairing duo on this team now, to be honest. Those two complimented each other so well, earning both handsome contracts as a result. But now we've seen both struggle since the Trouba trade. That's the double edged sword when it comes to top blue line pairings.

The silver lining here is that Pionk is a solid second pairing defender with a very friendly cap hit. And there's Heinola, who has a lot of potential and a pretty high ceiling, but he needs to develop.

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Laine is completely different, he wants that spotlight, he wants top minutes and accolades.  Kinda makes sense, since the word "team" in Finnish actually contains 3 I's... "tiimi"  

Seriously... I did not realize that the "There is no I in TEAM" was that innapropriate for addressing Finnish players... 

Explains a lot....

What explains a lot? And pointing out some linguistic coincidence isn't a gotcha. LOL

Laine was an asset to the Jets way, way more than he ever was a liability. His individual aspirations as a budding superstar doesn't nullify that fact.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 19, 2021, 07:14:44 PM
Scottie's are 7:30, Jet's at 9:00 tonight. Great night for sports.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 19, 2021, 08:04:07 PM
Jet's pickup Eric Comrie again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 19, 2021, 10:24:55 PM
sure Comrie is a nice guy but ........ is Chevy just being lazy


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 20, 2021, 06:58:57 AM
LB was very good again tonight. MA22 continues to play very well, great young talent. AL17 is a beast. Very nice win for the Jet's tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 20, 2021, 02:27:39 PM
Much better game in their own end last night and Brossoit was fantastic in net. Nice to see him get the shutout.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 20, 2021, 11:25:10 PM
Love Perreault-Lowry-Appleton


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 21, 2021, 03:42:37 PM
9 pm start again tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 21, 2021, 04:07:19 PM

What explains a lot? And pointing out some linguistic coincidence isn't a gotcha. LOL

Laine was an asset to the Jets way, way more than he ever was a liability. His individual aspirations as a budding superstar doesn't nullify that fact.

I was being sarcastic... the old addage "There is no "I" in Team" is a standard in hockey, a team game.  The fact that the Finnish word for "team" in fact is 60% I's is kinda funny.

As to being an asset, no doubt.  He was awesome to watch and potted a large number of beauty goals.  And, he improved his D game immensely in recent days, playing more like a man of his size. 

That said, it is apparent that he was not good in the room.  Not saying that outweigh's his talent, but it does factor in.

And, as our only top 5 draft pick in Jet 2.0 history, he had a huge asset cost.  Getting PLD13 back for him, with a better opportunity to resign him, and PLD13 being a C and apparently being a more positive room influence, I'm happy with what Chevy has done...

Retnetion of 1st rounders is important, and drafting of good players later in the draft and developing them seems to be the solid way to build a team.  Sure, you can buy/rent players, but draft, develop retain is much better.  Even with the negatives Winnipeg brings to the table, not being a big market and having Winnipeg weather, what Chevy and his crew have done is admirable, especially considering our lack of top six draft picks


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 21, 2021, 06:51:14 PM
I don't think it takes two to three years to analyze a trade. Trouba wanted out and big money. The Jet's were never going to pay him 8M.

Trouba: 2019/20.  70G,  27P,  -12.     2020/21   14G,   3P,   0.

Pionk:   2019/20.  71G,  45P,  +14.    2020/21   17G,   14P,  +3.

Our first round pick in this deal, hasn't worked out for us yet.


PL29 for PL13. PL13 is under contract for a very reasonable $5M, for next year. PL29 is going to want to get paid next year, probably in the neighborhood of 10M plus. The Jet's have a few very key players to sign after this year.

JR96 for 3rd pick. Wasn't happy with this deal. However MA22 has been given more playing time and is really turning into a very nice RW which the Jet's really need.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 21, 2021, 08:45:06 PM
I don't think it takes two to three years to analyze a trade. Trouba wanted out and big money. The Jet's were never going to pay him 8M.

Trouba: 2019/20.  70G,  27P,  -12.     2020/21   14G,   3P,   0.

Pionk:   2019/20.  71G,  45P,  +14.    2020/21   17G,   14P,  +3.

Our first round pick in this deal, hasn't worked out for us yet.


PL29 for PL13. PL13 is under contract for a very reasonable $5M, for next year. PL29 is going to want to get paid next year, probably in the neighborhood of 10M plus. The Jet's have a few very key players to sign after this year.

JR96 for 3rd pick. Wasn't happy with this deal. However MA22 has been given more playing time and is really turning into a very nice RW which the Jet's really need.


My takes on all the deals Chevy has done is that he took players that *everyone knew were unhappy*, and still got great value for them.  When a player declares he wants a trade, or holds out, your ability to get full value in a trade for  them drops dramatically. 

Chevy seems to have gotten full value, or better, for players other GM's would have had to fire sale. 

JR96 for a 3rd rounder isn't really the deal that was made, but even if it was, JR96 was never playing here again, and we got something for him.  The fact he has blossomed into the best player since the deal was made (that is currently playing) will probably be a short term situation, but regardless, he wasn't going to wear a Jets uni again...

A GM should be rated above average with 51% of his deals being considered "Wins".  All things considered, I think Chevy is well above that, maybe even in the 85% range, taking into account players desires to leave (for whatever reasons).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 21, 2021, 10:14:58 PM
Previous game indeed was wonderful for LB & the Jets as a team. Thought it was their best showing defensively.

If the morning skate report holds true, then Dubois will skate on the left side tonight with Scheif & Wheels  ........ can't wait to cheer them on

Copp will line up with Lowry & Appleton & that is great in my eyes.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 22, 2021, 04:36:06 AM
PL13, 2G, 1A. Nice come back win for the Jet's. BW26 had a very good game. Helly was rock solid.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on February 22, 2021, 05:03:02 AM
Pretty good shooting percentage: PLD's first two shots on goal as a Jet, and he scores two goals !


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 22, 2021, 05:57:46 PM
Not to over look any team but, I can't wait for March 9,11,13. These three games against the Leaf's should tell us where we are at.

Price and Montreal are not playing very well right now, we should take all four of those games. If we stay out of the penalty box I don't think the Canucks can beat us.

Should be a great three weeks of hockey.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 22, 2021, 11:16:24 PM
Wonderful team victory ....... the finish really had me giddy with happiness
PLD13 was of course a finisher, poor KFC just couldn't put at least 1 of his 7 shots in, HellB battled, do Copp & Lowry have stone hands a happening
The Break is important, maybe Poolman will heal, amongst others.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on February 23, 2021, 12:53:36 AM
If Poolman is injured, Stanley has shown he can handle the job quite nicely.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 23, 2021, 03:44:01 PM
If Poolman is injured, Stanley has shown he can handle the job quite nicely.

Agreed. I wonder what happened. All Maurice said after the game was there was "no mechanism of injury" but said it's an upper body issue. So, who knows.

I'm really looking forward to the Dubois Show again on Thursday. He was lights the other night in Vancouver.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 24, 2021, 10:04:14 PM
Happen to see someone's post of Dmen pairing at Jet practice today.  Poolman not on the ice ...... so Niku was paired with DeMelo
Stanley & Nogier were the extra pairing


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 25, 2021, 04:48:57 PM
Confirmed now that Niku will be in the lineup tonight  ...... paired initially with DeMelo


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 25, 2021, 06:55:28 PM
I think Stanley is far and away the better player but there is a part of me that wants Niku to come in an prove himself. I would love to have Niku, Stanley, Heinola, Samburg waiting in the wings for a permanent big club call-up some day soon.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 25, 2021, 06:56:32 PM
Also, I'm annoyed that we have to play a Habs team that's been sucking lately right after they right their coach. Usually turns into a trap game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 25, 2021, 08:54:15 PM
I think Stanley is far and away the better player but there is a part of me that wants Niku to come in an prove himself. I would love to have Niku, Stanley, Heinola, Samburg waiting in the wings for a permanent big club call-up some day soon.

Pretty solid D corps in waiting...  next year, Pionk and Morrisey will obviously be the core, but how can you stop 4 of these guys from challenging.  I'd like to keep Forbort and Poolman, but if the other 3 defencemen come off this list, I'm not unhappy...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 25, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Not a big fan of Niku.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 25, 2021, 09:44:30 PM
Also, I'm annoyed that we have to play a Habs team that's been sucking lately right after they right their coach. Usually turns into a trap game.

FWIW, the last time the Jets faced the Habs after firing their coach, they won 3-1. If the Jets stick to what works for them, they should be fine tonight and again on Saturday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on February 26, 2021, 02:36:39 AM
Nice comeback win, including five unanswered goals, against Les Habs !
PLD now has three goals on three shots since joining the Jets - better tell him to keep shooting the puck.  :D
Nate Thompson, who had the GWG, gets the helmet presentation !



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 26, 2021, 02:37:04 AM
Solid win by the Jet's. Slow start, but kept the pressure on Montreal. Zipp and Ards, How is Wheeler playing now. KC81 back scoring goals, nice to see. NE27, stick to hockey you fight like PL29.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2021, 01:08:11 PM
The better team took a while to show up but then did so and won convincingly. Wheeler must've banged up or something. He's been great lately. Dubois is a beauty!

Nice to see Ehlers stick up for himself. Perry was on him for much of the game in typical goon fashion.

Niku had a solid game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 26, 2021, 05:14:38 PM
The better team took a while to show up but then did so and won convincingly. Wheeler must've banged up or something. He's been great lately. Dubois is a beauty!

Nice to see Ehlers stick up for himself. Perry was on him for much of the game in typical goon fashion.

Niku had a solid game.

It was absolutely not nice to see Ehlers in a fight with Perry.

Just scary.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 26, 2021, 05:22:48 PM
It was absolutely not nice to see Ehlers in a fight with Perry.

Just scary.

I agree but Perry was antagonizing him for most of the game and then decided to go after Ehlers after the former took a penalty. Ehlers obviously shouldn't fight but I'll still commend him for answering the bell and not backing down from a pile of excrement like Perry.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 26, 2021, 06:37:19 PM
I mean it was Corey Perry. It's not like he was fighting a 6'5" career fourth liner goon.

I'm surprised 143 lb Ehlers held his own, sorta!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 26, 2021, 07:38:48 PM
Down to 2-0, then 3-1 ...... was worried that Price might have a big day but YAHOO  ...... Jets won going away

Wonder which Jet, if any, will call out "Katy" Perry this Saturday.   Well done Niku, very good game. 

Noted that in past 12 games Stastny only has 1 goal & 3 assists & just a +1 ........ really great in faceoffs but PLD13 may soon be bumping him down a line or 2.
also in the same 12 games ......  Copp has 5 assists & Lowry has 4 assists ..... both with Zero goals to show but ........ both have a remarkable +10 
oooops my bad
not likely an All-Star game this season, maybe missed announcement ........  but no doubt that Scheifele & Pionk are having marvelous years


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 26, 2021, 11:06:22 PM
I mean it was Corey Perry. It's not like he was fighting a 6'5" career fourth liner goon.

I'm surprised 143 lb Ehlers held his own, sorta!

Ehlers was very stupid to get involved with Perry who is 3 inches taller, and has 35 pounds on him. Ehlers ate 3 or 4 big shots at the end of that fight. We need Ehlers on the ice and healthy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 26, 2021, 11:10:47 PM
Down to 2-0, then 3-1 ...... was worried that Price might have a big day but YAHOO  ...... Jets won going away

Wonder which Jet, if any, will call out "Katy" Perry this Saturday.   Well done Niku, very good game. 

Noted that in past 12 games Stastny only has 1 goal & 3 assists & just a +1 ........ really great in faceoffs but PLD13 may soon be bumping him down a line or 2.
also in the same 12 games ......  Copp has 5 assists & Lowry has 4 assists ..... both with Zero goals to show but ........ both have a remarkable +10 

not likely an All-Star game this season, maybe missed announcement ........  but no doubt that Scheifele & Pionk are having marvelous years

I think we went though this with Wheeler a couple of weeks ago. Hockey isn't all about goals and assists, or plus and minus. Copp and Lowry are two great shutdown players.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on February 27, 2021, 12:31:09 PM
For those worried about Ehlers fighting...how often are players actually injured from fights? Seems to me he?s more likely pulling a muscle stretching during pregame warmup.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on February 27, 2021, 02:28:11 PM
For those worried about Ehlers fighting...how often are players actually injured from fights? Seems to me he?s more likely pulling a muscle stretching during pregame warmup.

My only concern about the fight was that as soon as Ehlers helmet came off, the linesmen should have jumped in.  The only injuries I worry about in fighting is head vs. ice, especially when there is a weight disparity...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 27, 2021, 03:42:03 PM
Understand the shutdown ability of Lowry & Copp ..... thus my comment ?marvellous +10?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 27, 2021, 05:02:46 PM
9 pm start tonight on CBC.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jesse on February 27, 2021, 06:54:56 PM
For those worried about Ehlers fighting...how often are players actually injured from fights? Seems to me he?s more likely pulling a muscle stretching during pregame warmup.

I'm not concerned about Ehlers getting hit in the head during a 15 second brawl, I just don't want him breaking/spraining a finger or wrist.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 28, 2021, 04:54:55 AM
Jets Win  the Jets Win ....... WOWEE did HellB ever keep us in

Thinking it?s the first time I have witnessed coach PM start 3 forwards in OT


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 28, 2021, 05:06:26 AM
Jets Win  the Jets Win ....... WOWEE did HellB ever keep us in

Thinking it?s the first time I have witnessed coach PM start 3 forwards in OT

Moe started 3 forwards in OT against Vancouver.

The Jet's were out shot 41/21, out hit 26/15, and gave away the puck 12 times.

Helly saved our bacon tonight.

Jet's win, Oilers loose, bring on the Leafs.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on February 28, 2021, 05:12:55 PM
Plus the telecast showed after 2 periods that the Jets had created a decent 36 scoring chances,
whereas the Habs created a menacing 76 chances
Jets won a game that they were lucky to get to OT let alone have a victory


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on February 28, 2021, 05:23:27 PM
I can't wait for the Jet's/Leafs games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 01, 2021, 01:50:01 PM
7 Pm start tonight. Need a win tonight to keep pace with the Leaf's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 01, 2021, 10:12:34 PM
It pisses me out when reports say the best to teams in the North are playing tonight. Leaf's and Oilers. The Jet's have played 3 fewer games and are one point behind the Oilers. Our winning percentage is better then there's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 01, 2021, 11:21:44 PM
It pisses me out when reports say the best to teams in the North are playing tonight. Leaf's and Oilers. The Jet's have played 3 fewer games and are one point behind the Oilers. Our winning percentage is better then there's.

I can?t stand that I have to hear about the Oilers who haven?t done anything since the 80s. Media just dying for McDavid to become a champ like it?s destiny or something.

I?m fine with not getting any respect. Let them gloss over us.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 02, 2021, 02:49:22 AM
......... and we lost


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 02, 2021, 04:04:26 AM
Our scoring has disappeared. Slow start and a solid goalie did us in. Hope we play better tomorrow.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 02, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Another 7 pm start.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on March 03, 2021, 03:25:04 AM
Nice bounce back win tonight.
Watching the highlights, kind of like our grey and blue jerseys, maybe even more than the light blue ones.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 03, 2021, 03:29:11 AM
Solid team effort. Nice to get two goals from our bottom 6 tonight. LB was solid again tonight. BW26 is really playing  some good hockey.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 03, 2021, 04:20:37 PM
Another verry polished performance by LB in goal    MattyP's goal to end the first, was a very important key to the victory
Really impressed with the play of Tucker P. after his layoff.
Thinking PLD is still a bit uncertain with the puck.  However using his body on the boards is great & he is definitely programmed to hustle playing away from the puck


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 03, 2021, 05:12:06 PM
I think PLD13 is going to be one of the most popular Jets shortly enough... pure Power Forward and a  C to boot... 13 55 26 is a deadly combo... and should stay that way, 27, 25, 81 is great... 9, 17, 22 is coming into line  and 85,?, ?  is a great 4th line, with 85 able to go up the lineup at any time in case of injury...

44, 3   these pairings
4, 24   need to stay together.

8, 64 is a pairing I would love to see get 10 min a night for a month to see how they gel.

2, 88 no insult intended, but they are just not there right now, you really notice when they are on the ice... I love having them available in case of injury, and maybe resting them a bit might put some spark in them as well, but I really want to see 8,64.  Combo of size and speed, offense and defense, both seem naturally talented adn need time playing at speed in teh NHL to see what they really have...



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 03, 2021, 05:39:39 PM
The most productive line for the Jet's in recent years has been 81/55/26, and I would love to see this line put back together. I would also be giving 22 a promotion, 27/13/22. Our shutdown line 9/17/25. 85 is our swiss army knife, play the man where we need him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 04, 2021, 07:03:07 PM
6 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on March 05, 2021, 02:36:24 AM
Another OT win against Les Habs !


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 05, 2021, 03:08:58 AM
I thought the Jet's had a very good first 10 minutes. Really pressured Montreal. Montreal was the better team in the 2nd. period. Nice to see PS25 score a pair of goals tonight. The PL13 line did very little tonight, until 30 seconds left in OT. PL13 with his second OT winner, and some people thought the Blue Jackets won this trade. MP85 also had another strong game, and another very important goal.

Montreal out shot us 33/23, out hit us 42/24, and dominated us on face off circle 30/21. Nobody stands up for PS25 after Weber manhandles him in front of the net.  Nobody stands up for Helly after Perry gives him a forearm to the head. But at the end of the day it's another 2 points.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 05, 2021, 02:24:41 PM
Jets have a weird way of winning games.

Get outshot. Crumble for at least a period. Give up very early goals and have to play catch up. Give up otherwise-game winning leads in the last 2 mins. Play 3 forwards in 3-on-3 OT.

....and win games.

Probably drives PoMo crazy but for the fans, loving the winning.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 05, 2021, 03:29:05 PM
Good effort but it needs to improve for Saturday. HellB had to be very good for our victory


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 05, 2021, 04:05:59 PM
For those that would rather win boring games... sorry, no.  56 games during the season mean little individually, as long as the percentage gets us it.

In the meantime, lets have exciting games.  

This is an exciting team.  The talent has the ability up and down the line of stepping up for a shift, a period or a game and winning the fighter jet helmet.  ou never kno who is going to be that one.

PaulMo for all his faults, has seemed to be getting a grip on what he has.  He's still making (in my opinion) some questionable line/roster choices, but he i also making for unique and insightful ones.  3F in OT has made a huge difference, but that will get adjusted to quickly.  IN the meantime, it is awesome to watch.  Cycling the puck around between three talented forwards until they find a seam and BAM, pounce on it... wonderful theatre to watch...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 06, 2021, 03:20:04 PM
Another 6 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 07, 2021, 03:55:12 AM
You could say the Les Habs, B slapped us tonight. Montreal rolled 4 lines, and shut us down all night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 07, 2021, 03:56:21 PM
Well 3 big games in Toronto this week. The Leaf's are on a bit of a slide. We are coming off a terrible game. Both teams should be playing with a lot of purpose. Could be 3 good games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 07, 2021, 04:35:47 PM
Yup not much to say bout this one. The Habs got some good bounces that complimented their
hustle & more hustle


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 08, 2021, 12:07:55 PM
I think the 88 experiment is over.  Yeah, former first rounder.  BUt he has been awful, not just here... I get thinking you can fix him, but no... just no...

@wazoowazny had the line of the night...  posted a weather network type graphic showing 88 was -4, but it felt like -20

64 back in the lineup please...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 08, 2021, 06:56:16 PM
I think the 88 experiment is over.  Yeah, former first rounder.  BUt he has been awful, not just here... I get thinking you can fix him, but no... just no...

@wazoowazny had the line of the night...  posted a weather network type graphic showing 88 was -4, but it felt like -20

64 back in the lineup please...

Same thing you were saying about 26. Tough night for everybody. 88 is one of the guy's that will get his noise dirty. Also DeMelo was a -3, he's also not that physical, and has no O to his game, why not sit him??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 08, 2021, 07:08:33 PM
Was anyone in a Jets jersey good on Saturday? No. Far from it. That was a collective bed-crapping by essentially the entire roster.

Singling out one or two players when the entire team failed to show up is just lazy, not to mention ignorant. The Habs dusted the Jets two nights ago and that's hopefully the wake-up call this teams needs going forward with a huge series coming up starting tomorrow vs. the division leader.

Amazing how many fans constantly claim to know better than the actual professionals in charge. One of the pitfalls of social media, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 08, 2021, 07:14:57 PM
Was anyone in a Jets jersey good on Saturday? No. Far from it. That was a collective bed-crapping by essentially the entire roster.

Singling out one or two players when the entire team failed to show up is just lazy, not to mention ignorant. The Habs dusted the Jets two nights ago and that's hopefully the wake-up call this teams needs going forward with a huge series coming up starting tomorrow vs. the division leader.

Amazing how many fans constantly claim to know better than the actual professionals in charge. One of the pitfalls of social media, IMO.

I agree, this mite have been what the Jet's needed going into Toronto for the nest three games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 08, 2021, 08:08:39 PM
Same thing you were saying about 26. Tough night for everybody. 88 is one of the guy's that will get his noise dirty. Also DeMelo was a -3, he's also not that physical, and has no O to his game, why not sit him??

My problem with 88 is that he is now a journeyman, yet he is constantly doing the rookie "watch the puck" crap that gets us scored on.  I'd rather have a rookie making rookie mistakes and learning from them than a journeyman making rookie mistakes and not.


26 had some bad games, and needed a rest to heal. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 08, 2021, 08:57:15 PM
My problem with 88 is that he is now a journeyman, yet he is constantly doing the rookie "watch the puck" crap that gets us scored on.  I'd rather have a rookie making rookie mistakes and learning from them than a journeyman making rookie mistakes and not.

By that logic, the team as may as well deploy the entire Moose blue line and sit every current Jets' defensemen. See how absurd that sounds? Also, Beaulieu is not a journeyman (he's played for three teams in 10 years in the NHL).

A rookie "making mistakes" at the top level of a sport is not a sound way to develop a player. That's why blue line prospects like Heinola, Samberg, and Chisholm are on the Moose: to log big minutes against the AHL's best while easing into a role suited to their respective skill set. You don't throw a developmental prospect to the wolves because the pro team has a bad game or stretch of poor play, or because a depth player struggles in a game or two. Beaulieu being deployed in the top 4 doesn't make sense to me but the blue line pairings this season haven't made much sense, either. How that gets resolved is beyond me but the forward lines have to get back to playing more responsible two-way hockey and avoid getting caught in track meets with opponents.

The Jets' defensive zone play has ranged from mediocre to downright abysmal - and it's not simply one or two players responsible for that. This is a team system issue (or a lack of buying in to said system) and swapping out a player or two won't solve poor positioning, lousy puck movement, or allowing high danger scoring chances. The "problem" here is that they're winning more games than not, so unless the Jets really start taking it on the chin, don't expect to see any major changes.

FWIW, Pionk has stood out this season as the most consistent blue liner on this team, IMO. That's not saying much, though. The Jets are not a strong team defensively and they won't be until more of their organizational talent matures. That's why we're seeing established defenders like Morrissey struggle so often.

Injuries haven't helped the blue line, either.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 09, 2021, 03:26:14 PM
6 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 09, 2021, 06:44:16 PM
I agree, this mite have been what the Jet's needed going into Toronto for the nest three games.

I agree. I would have hated to have squeezed by Montreal with e.g. a shootout win or something and then face the Leafs and get steam rolled as a team that was making a lot of mistakes. I hope this was a wake up call to tighten the weak areas of their game and come out swinging.

Let's win 2 of these next 3 games cleanly, guys.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 09, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Why would someone think that our organizational talent needs more maturing
Morrissey struggles defensively because he is not a physical battler. Like our offensive producer, Scheifele, Morrissey is more a stick checker & defensive opportunistic

As far as games lost ....... our Dman squad is easily the healthiest in the NHL with only Poolman losing more than a game due to injuries

Any change I would consider is Beaulieu sitting out for a bit more time for Stanley ....... however today we will cheer for big D results from our Jets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 09, 2021, 09:54:31 PM
Why would someone think that our organizational talent needs more maturing

As far as games lost ....... our Dman squad is easily the healthiest in the NHL with only Poolman losing more than a game due to injuries

I said "more of the organizational talent matures", meaning current AHL rostered defenders. This team is barely two years removed from losing over half of its starting blue line, and until players like Heinola and Samberg are ready to take the next step, we'll be stuck watching stopgaps like Forbort and Beaulieu.

As for injuries, my comment was they haven't helped the blue line; I wasn't talking about man games lost relative to other teams. Injuries have forced pairing changes and that's not good for building chemistry between pairing partners. Poolman missing time didn't help and the same goes for DeMelo who's missed a handful of games. That's two of the projected top 4 missing games, which impacts a blue line negatively. Injuries aren't an excuse but they are  factor when deploying pairings.

Combine all that with the Jets often not playing a brand of sound defensive hockey, which is something that's plagued them since the beginning of the 2019-20 season - if not earlier. That leads to more shots against and more high danger opportunities surrendered.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 09, 2021, 11:50:20 PM
KC81, very weak back check on the first Leafs goal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 10, 2021, 12:35:09 AM
Jet's second goal all second effort by BW26.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on March 10, 2021, 01:48:56 AM
Nice bounce-back win against Toronto, after the fiasco in Montreal.
Hopefully we can bring the same effort to the next two games against Toronto.
If Beaulieu can't play next game, who replaces him, Niku or Stanley ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2021, 02:42:50 AM
KC81, very weak back check on the first Leafs goal.

His first period was pretty rough but he bounced back nicely in the middle frame.

A solid bounceback by the team in general. Some bad shifts here and there but Hellebuyck bailed them out when needed and they get two big points.

Onto the next.

If Beaulieu can't play next game, who replaces him, Niku or Stanley ?

I'd put money on Stanley. Jets could use his size and physicality on the back end.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 10, 2021, 02:44:08 AM
Nice bounce-back win against Toronto, after the fiasco in Montreal.
Hopefully we can bring the same effort to the next two games against Toronto.
If Beaulieu can't play next game, who replaces him, Niku or Stanley ?



Good 2 forsure  ... Stanley for his size. Niku may have trouble with the speed n skill of the Leafs. Id like to see some size on d. Niku is more a O skilled Dman and i think against the Leafs haveing a Big Dman in the middle at times is the better option.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 10, 2021, 03:34:26 AM
Helly first star of that game. He faced 39 shots. App's continues to play well. JM44 first goal of the year. Leaf's have lost 3 games in a row. We need to be better in the face off circle. Nice win, 2 point closer to first place.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2021, 01:16:34 PM
Hellebuyck was a monster last night.

With last night's win, the Jets are 7-0-1 after a loss this season. That's a very reassuring stat, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 10, 2021, 04:10:41 PM
I feel that the KC 81 backcheck issue was because of the way 88 took his man out...  81 was expected to cover in an unusual way. 

The team did fare a lot better after 88 was injured... just sayin...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2021, 05:08:56 PM
I feel that the KC 81 backcheck issue was because of the way 88 took his man out...  81 was expected to cover in an unusual way. 

The team did fare a lot better after 88 was injured... just sayin...

It sounds like you didn't even watch the game.

Connor made no effort to back-check or disrupt Hyman as he took the puck through the neutral zone from his own blue line (11:49 in the 1st). He and Ehlers floated back to their own zone on that play, which allowed Hyman to drive to the net and score. Only once Hyman reaches the top of the circle does Connor actually do something (11:46), but he's already given up the position by then. That's three seconds of taking off a shift, something of which that entire forward line was guilty. Connor and Ehlers both aren't known for their two-way game but there's nothing "unusual" about trying to plug up the neutral zone or do some back-checking.

Beaulieu is an easy whipping boy but his mediocre play of late, while worthy of criticism, doesn't and shouldn't excuse the poor play of others. Singling out one skater when there are four others on the ice is not rational, either.

The Jets allowed 31 SOG in the two periods (18 2nd, 13 3rd) after being forced to play with five defenders. How is that faring better than they did in the first when they only allowed 8 SOG?

Goaltending was the difference last night, especially late in the game when the Leafs had the extra attacker. That's why Helleuyck was named first star.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2021, 05:22:38 PM
Sounds like Beaulieu is going to be out for a while: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-defenceman-nathan-beaulieu-weeks-upper-body-injury/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-defenceman-nathan-beaulieu-weeks-upper-body-injury/)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 10, 2021, 06:50:35 PM
Sounds like Beaulieu is going to be out for a while: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-defenceman-nathan-beaulieu-weeks-upper-body-injury/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-defenceman-nathan-beaulieu-weeks-upper-body-injury/)

Much as people will defend the current whipping boy, I am excited to see who they bring in, hoping it is 64...

Connor blew that coverage, yes.  But he scored, leaving himself a +/- 0 .  And he has regularly made excellent defensive plays.  Everyone is allowed a brainfart.  +/- 4 is not evidence of a brainfart, but rather something much worse


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 10, 2021, 07:22:20 PM
Much as people will defend the current whipping boy, I am excited to see who they bring in, hoping it is 64...

Connor blew that coverage, yes.  But he scored, leaving himself a +/- 0 .  And he has regularly made excellent defensive plays.  Everyone is allowed a brainfart.  +/- 4 is not evidence of a brainfart, but rather something much worse.

I would say 81 has been guilty of lazy back checking on a few occasions. Just because he scored later in the games doesn't make it okay.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 10, 2021, 07:34:04 PM


I would say 81 has been guilty of lazy back checking on a few occasions. Just because he scored later in the games doesn't make it okay.

You take the good with the bad... Connor's upside more that covers an occasional bad... he's 5 years younger as well... he will learn.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2021, 08:15:22 PM
Much as people will defend the current whipping boy, I am excited to see who they bring in, hoping it is 64...

Connor blew that coverage, yes.  But he scored, leaving himself a +/- 0 .  And he has regularly made excellent defensive plays.  Everyone is allowed a brainfart.  +/- 4 is not evidence of a brainfart, but rather something much worse

What's accomplished with these mental gymnastics? Why make excuses for Connor and move the goalposts of your argument? Just because Connor happened to redeem himself by scoring a goal last night doesn't change the reality that he is not a strong two-way player. He's also a fifth year NHLer, so I'm not sure what he's supposed to learn.

He's a generally lousy defensive player and that's been a knock on his game since he locked up a spot in the top 6 in 2016. Lazy play is not a brainfart when it's something he's done before on a consistent basis. Fortunately, what he brings to the table offensively more than makes up for his lack of responsible defensive play.

It's not reasonable to cherrypick one game to justify your ongoing and pretty misguided hate for Beaulieu. +/- is a garbage stat to begin with but he's a +10 since joining the Jets and was sitting at 0 on the season before the blowout loss to the Habs. You conveniently ignore that, as well as the fact that Connor was a -2 on Saturday and is currently sitting at -1 on the season. He sits at -3 in his career, too. In other words, he's been on the ice for more goals against than he's actually scored at even strength. But I'll restate +/- being a garbage stat because it does nothing to paint a clear or complete picture of a team sport such as hockey.

You can't tell Pigskin to "take the good with the bad" and seemingly let one player off the hook, while also using stats from a single game to dump on another.

I hope you've got your new whipping boy lined up next time the Jets struggle or lose a game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 10, 2021, 08:20:28 PM
You take the good with the bad... Connor's upside more that covers an occasional bad... he's 5 years younger as well... he will learn.

Okay, so that how it works in your mind. It's actually the Aard's formula.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 11, 2021, 06:05:40 AM
Feel we were able to steal those 2 pts. on the strength of our great goalie at his best & that we had finish on the few A-one chances we got.
Oooooooops, course major luck thanks to Mathews doing a hacky sack kick of 44's shot from the point

Jets have got to bare down more on faceoffs. Our figures are disgusting & last game was another example of too much effort chasing from the dot.
Leafs are apparently top dogs, or near top, in faceoff win %.   Next 2 games we need to change that in our favor ----- getter dun boys.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2021, 05:01:36 PM
Stanley gets the nod tonight. Looking forward to his return.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 11, 2021, 05:19:58 PM
Stanley gets the nod tonight. Looking forward to his return.

Wheeee... the "free Stanley" crowd cheers...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 11, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
6 PM start again tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 11, 2021, 05:47:31 PM
Stanley gets the nod tonight. Looking forward to his return.

I am glad to see him back. He played well when he was in the lineup.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2021, 08:43:19 PM
I am glad to see him back. He played well when he was in the lineup.

My concern is that he's only got 14 games remaining until he'd end up exposed in the expansion draft.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 11, 2021, 08:49:02 PM
How does the expansion draft work with RFA's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
How does the expansion draft work with RFA's.

UFA/RFA doesn't seem to play a part as much as games played in the NHL. Here's the expansion draft simulation tool: https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle (https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle)

Scroll down to the bottom to see the Jets' roster and who's exposed or not. Any RFA left unprotected could be taken by the Kraken and they'd have negotiating rights, AFAIK. It's more so related to GP at the NHL level to determine whether or not a player is exposed.

For the Jets, you can see a number of prospects have XX GR next to their name, meaning they have a certain number of games remaining at the NHL level before they'd end up exposed in the expansion draft.

This is my understanding, anyway. I'm not completely clear on all the rules, so if someone else has information I don't, please chime in. :)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 11, 2021, 09:19:04 PM
It's looks like a team can protect 7 forwards and 3 D, 1 goalie.

26/81/55/27/13/17/9/22.   #9 could be left unprotected.

4/44/3/2/88. Maybe 64.      #2 and #88 could be left unprotected, #64 if he has enough games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 12, 2021, 03:17:47 AM
Helly was great again. PL13 line has excellent on O, but needs to improve there D. Had our chance in OT to win it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 12, 2021, 03:57:51 AM
It again seemed like the Leafs were dominant ....... HellB was exceptional & enough said 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 12, 2021, 04:34:19 AM
Why PauMo starter 25, 26, 55 in the overtime when 27, 13, 81 were the hot hands tonight, I'll never know...

I think 26 has reinjured whatever he "didn't injure" before...

H buck was outstanding again, slowly working towards the HOF...  not bad for a fifth rounder...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 12, 2021, 03:09:04 PM
Considering that 26 and 44 where the only two players with a plus last night, I would say 26 is still playing pretty good.

The PP needs a boost, I thinking PL13, in for 25. Much better shooter from the slot. Bigger body in front of the net. Still a decent face off man.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 12, 2021, 11:53:08 PM
Certainly agree with the addition of PLD13 for PS25 on the PP

A few pieces on possible destinations of defenseman, M. Ekholm that includes Winnipeg.   This player would be terrific for our Top 4 D.
Can't remember where I saw Niku & 1st round pick to Nashville ....... at 30 years old & Cap Hit under $4M, ...... Hmmmmm.   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 14, 2021, 03:19:18 AM
Terrific shut down the Leafs performance ......... awesome win


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 14, 2021, 03:46:39 AM
I thought the Jet's played a very solid game. One weak goal let in by LB, but other that he was very good again tonight. The short handed goal by the leaf's was sloppy play by our D. App's is showing some really O talent.

App's   8G  7A  15 points +6

Considering App's plays on our third line and get no PP minutes. These are pretty good numbers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 15, 2021, 01:12:05 PM
7 pm start tonight. With the leaf's loosing again last night a this is a nice chance to get 2 point closer to first.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 15, 2021, 04:25:21 PM
Terrific shut down the Leafs performance ......... awesome win

That third period was probably their best all season. Just a complete, solid 20 min. effort all around.

The Jets made a pretty strong statement with that trip to Toronto with 5/6 possible points capped off with a convincing win on Saturday. Here's hoping the team's turned a corner and have a solid second half and challenge for that North Division banner!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 15, 2021, 06:54:25 PM
So...

64 > 88

27 is better without 29 distracting him

13 > 27

Just a note... 29 playing with Bjorkstrand and Nash on line 2... still stayed out on the ice minutes longer than anyone on the top line, or his line...  I don't think 29 is going to be a long term Jacket... could be trade bait this year...

JR96 is on the wing on Columbus' top line... looks like they are rating certain players over others...

Question:  Does Chevy go after Ekholm?  What would you pay for him? 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 16, 2021, 02:32:02 AM
Well CP31 played his 700th game with Montreal and played very well.

44/4, both with bad turnovers. 26 provided 2 great screens on the Jet's PP goals.

PP was looking good tonight.

If we can cleanup our turnovers in our own zone, we will be fine.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 16, 2021, 05:33:28 PM
Jets got away from solid two-way hockey last night with some costly turnovers at really inopportune times.

I expect a bounceback tomorrow.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 17, 2021, 02:08:30 PM
8 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 18, 2021, 12:45:48 AM
Much better start for the Jet's. Can't keep taking stupid penalties.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 18, 2021, 02:34:42 AM
Well we played two very good periods, but were out played in the 3rd. Montreal is terrible in OT 0-8 this season, so it was pretty much a given Jet's would pull off the win. 2 points closer to first place.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 18, 2021, 04:01:01 AM
Great victory ....... cuz we need all the points possible      My oh my how Ehlers & Conner can snap that puck
Really had trouble with the Habs swarming in late 1/2 of third
Can't get over how PM will always put 55 out when defending against 6 attackers.  He just refuses to tie up an opponent on the boards

Still so very injury free, for the most part ...... hope it continues for this road trip 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 18, 2021, 11:55:48 AM
The second line is really finding some nice chemistry. Dubois centering Connor and Ehlers is working out very well.

This team still struggles to play a full 60 minutes but they got the two points last night and that's what matters.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 18, 2021, 02:03:02 PM
I was surprised that Montreal had that much left in there tank, considering that was there last game of a fairly long road trip.

8 pm start tonight. Edmonton had a nice win over Calgary last night.

Will we see LB tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 19, 2021, 02:58:03 AM
We worked hard, but made a couple of mistakes which 97 made us pay for.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 19, 2021, 03:48:06 AM
Just didn?t happen for the good guys


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 20, 2021, 05:49:07 AM
9 pm start tonight. Hope we can score a few more goals tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 20, 2021, 07:37:26 PM
HelllB needs to handle the puck well in the aspect of clearing to Dmen or forwards. Less mistakes in that area is crucial

First off I am a big fan of PLD13 ....... however, his proficiency in the faceoff dot is truly horrible.
His historical figures show that he was an underachiever before coming to the Jets.  Although at the time of the trade he had won 33 of 61 draws with Columbus for a 54% ave.
With the Jets in 15 games he has won only 48 of 131 for a pathetic 37%.  Crossing fingers that this becomes positive in a hurry .


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 20, 2021, 10:14:47 PM
I am not to worried about the way Helly handles the puck. Our D needs to stop turning over the puck and we will be find. I would like to see Copp have a big game tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 21, 2021, 01:30:18 AM
Look at that, Copp scores. lol. They all count. PL13/NE27 each with another point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 21, 2021, 03:28:54 AM
Not going to win to many games only scoring 1 or 2 goals. PP wasn't very good tonight. BW26 gets a game misconduct for throw the puck over the boards at the end of the game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 21, 2021, 06:06:12 PM
Certainly had some decent chances & unfortunately Smith made some very good stops
 Wheels hit the crossbar with barely a second to go & on the rebound DeMelo doesn?t finish .......... took the time to frustratingly text my sister that it might be the TSN turning point of the game  >:(


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 22, 2021, 12:12:49 PM
Not going to win to many games only scoring 1 or 2 goals. PP wasn't very good tonight. BW26 gets a game misconduct for throw the puck over the boards at the end of the game.

Bit of a childish move on his part.

Jets got complacent with that two-goal lead and let the Oilers hang around instead of keeping their foot on the gas. First time with back-to-back regulation losses, so maybe this lights a fire under them going into Vancouver tonight.

The Jets as a whole stink in the face-off circle.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 22, 2021, 01:49:03 PM
Another 9 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 22, 2021, 06:16:27 PM
Found Ken Wiebe's piece to be a decent read

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-trade-deadline-preview-cheveldayoff-willing-spend-big-target/

Manson may not be of the same ilk as capturing a M. Ekholm in a trade, but, if healthy, he would be able to bump Poolman or DeMelo down
Niku we have heard rumours about but Harkins name pops out in bold print & this guy should be tempting to other teams.  Like him over Thompson or Lewis myself.   



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 22, 2021, 07:28:11 PM
We need Harkins for the expansion draft. He should have his 40 games and would be a good player to expose.

Niku, can't get him out of Winnipeg fast enough.

DeMelo is another guy that hasn't played his best hockey this year.

Speaking of the expansion draft. Does anyone think the Jet's would consider exposing BW26 and his 10M contract next year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 22, 2021, 07:38:32 PM
Harkins becomes eligible if he plays 10 more games in the NHL. If not, he's exempt and the Jets don't have to worry about protecting him.

Wheeler can't be exposed due to his NMC and the only way around that is if he chooses to waive it. That won't happen.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 22, 2021, 08:01:22 PM
Definitely would agree with exposing Wheels , as I doubt greatly that Seattle would Draft him & his big pay cheque .......... rules, **** rules. 
Would do it to protect Stanley &/or DeMelo or Lowry &/or Copp
Otherwise I expect Lowry is open to be drafted & I really hope Stanley gets protected over DeMelo

Really want Harkins to play a bigger part of the Jets next season


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 22, 2021, 08:08:52 PM
The Jet's will protect Lowry, I hope they can get him signed. Just way to important to the Jet's.  Copp on the other hand mite be the odd man out.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 23, 2021, 02:01:28 AM
Nice goal by BW26.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 23, 2021, 03:29:27 AM
Solid win for the Jet's. Helly played well, but was a little lucky tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on March 23, 2021, 03:30:10 AM
Shutout - Jets win 4 - zip.  Nice and important win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 23, 2021, 11:59:59 AM
Nice to see Hellebuyck get a shutout. I was worried the Jets were going to give up a late one by taking their foot off the pedal but they held strong.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 23, 2021, 04:09:36 PM
Lady Luck or the Hockey Gods were in HellB?s corner on 3 iron shots
He deserved to have the good fortune & get a well deserved shutout.
Jets had finish in the 3rd & the team defensive game was quite solid


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 23, 2021, 05:00:29 PM
The Jet's will protect Lowry, I hope they can get him signed. Just way to important to the Jet's.  Copp on the other hand mite be the odd man out.

We also have the option of not re-signing Lowry and exposing him. We can sign him after the expansion draft whether he gets selected on not. Sure, there's a risk we lose him (although risky move on Seattle's part by selecting a soon-to-be FA), but we may have other big fish we need to protect such that we have to take the risk.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 23, 2021, 05:09:35 PM
I am not taking a chance with Lowry.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 23, 2021, 05:18:01 PM
I am not taking a chance with Lowry.

7 forwards can be protected: Wheeler (must due to NMC), Connor, Ehlers, Shceifele, Dubois, Copp, Appleton. We then expose contract-less Lowry and Stasnty and hope Kraken take Niku. If we sign Lowry prior and protect him, guaranteed they take Apples or Copp, which would be horrible too.

So we take a slight risk on Lowry or for sure give up one of our other young stalwart third liners.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 23, 2021, 05:39:45 PM
7 forwards can be protected: Wheeler (must due to NMC), Connor, Ehlers, Shceifele, Dubois, Copp, Appleton. We then expose contract-less Lowry and Stasnty and hope Kraken take Niku. If we sign Lowry prior and protect him, guaranteed they take Apples or Copp, which would be horrible too.

So we take a slight risk on Lowry or for sure give up one of our other young stalwart third liners.


My grandson already did a list on page 21. Like I said Copp is my unprotected player out of this group, and 25 if he's still in the Jet's plans, as age and contract price would be a factor. Lowry is just to important to this team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 23, 2021, 06:53:44 PM
If I understand the situation correctly, it goes like this: Copp is a pending RFA, so the Jets can protect him and retain his rights even if he remains unsigned at the time of the draft. With Lowry, however, the Jets would have to re-sign him prior to the expansion draft in order to protect him as he's a pending UFA without rights.
Lowry's importance to this team can't be underscored but he's at liberty to wait for free agency and try his luck in the market. I can't see the two parties coming to terms before free agency and there's been nothing reported to suggest the two are currently talking about a new contract. There is the possibility the Jets could have an agreement with him in place whereby he remains unsigned while agreeing to new terms once FA begins, the Jets negotiate with Kraken management to draft another player (much like we saw in 2018 with the Golden Knights by taking Thorburn), and Lowry and the Jets finalize his new contract on the first day of FA.

With potential trades still in the picture, I can't claim how the Jets' protected list will look but I fully expect them to go 7 F, 3 D, 1 G. So, as of today's roster and barring any trades, this is how I see the list shaking out:
7 F: Wheeler (NMC), Scheifele, Connor, Ehlers, Dubois, Copp, Appleton
3 D: Morrissey, Pionk, DeMelo*
1 G: Hellebuyck

* could be the odd man out if the Jets are indeed looking to bolster the blue line prior to the TDL


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 24, 2021, 12:43:29 PM
No way would they ever expose Stanley.  Ever. 

Copp/Lowery/Appleton all have merits for protecting, any one would be a loss, which one is more replaceable?

I think Niku is gone by trade day... our D depth is pretty solid but I do hope we can get Ekholm for the cup drive...and that makes the D exposure really tough.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 24, 2021, 12:55:14 PM
9:30 start tonight. Jet's have only taken 6 penalties in the last 3 games, and have given up no goals. Good PK.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 24, 2021, 03:46:06 PM
No way would they ever expose Stanley.  Ever. 

Copp/Lowery/Appleton all have merits for protecting, any one would be a loss, which one is more replaceable?

Stanley isn't exposed until he plays seven more games. If that comes to pass, then the discussion and the list obviously change.

Appelton is likely the most "replaceable," as Copp can play centre or wing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 25, 2021, 03:10:37 AM
Good night so far:

Sahaidak and Lott advance to the Gold Medal game.

Stanley showed his toughness.

Copp with 2 PP goals.

Helly very good again.

Nice work by 26/55 on our 3rd goal.

Win number 20, and a share of 1st. place.

Copp with 4 goals. Wins a lucky fan $100,000.

Crappy, Jet's blow shutout with 1:25 left.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2021, 12:12:06 PM
As if the boys couldn't clamp down and get Hellebuyck another shutout. One sloppy sequence was all it took and so late in a blowout game, too. That's happened at least a few times this season, which is a shame. He was phenomenal last night, though.

Copp was fantastic and that third line was lethal all game (maybe the best third line in the league?). All four lines played very well and the two-way game was solid. The Jets are now tied for the division lead with a good test tomorrow night against a pretty beleaguered Flames team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 25, 2021, 02:58:07 PM
Disappointed for HellB but it may have occurred earlier if one of those multiple ?dings? went in
Copp had finish, exceptional indeed, & that?s how to win
Ehlers took a shot on ankle shortly after Wheels had & I felt he looked very subdued as game went on

Stanley is our Chara of the future ...... skate laces crossed for that


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2021, 04:31:27 PM
Remember when so many fans here (in Winnipeg) declared Stanley a "bust" who would never play in the NHL?

Pepperidge Farm remembers. ;D


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 25, 2021, 06:47:48 PM
Stanley is turning some heads in the NHL. I am sure there's no turning back now. He will get his 40 games and we will have to protect him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 25, 2021, 08:01:49 PM
Stanley is turning some heads in the NHL. I am sure there's no turning back now. He will get his 40 games and we will have to protect him.

That's ok, if we have a decent forward exposed then they would go before any of our exposed D men go (e.g. DeMelo if Stanley takes his place). Not that I want that...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 25, 2021, 08:07:05 PM
If I am Seattle I am taking LB. Weather he's my starter or my backup he is rock solid.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2021, 08:19:07 PM
If I am Seattle I am taking LB. Weather he's my starter or my backup he is rock solid.

Gonna be a lot of unprotected goalies available. The Kraken could easily snag a RFA netminder and just wait for Brossoit (UFA) to hit FA.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on March 25, 2021, 09:02:34 PM
So, have to wonder if running Copp back out there in the final minutes on short rest to get the fifth goal cost them the shutout...  love the try, for sure, after Perrault missed out on it... but Copp seemed to be out on the ice for most of the final minutes.

Great on them, good win, some nice bounces netting Copp 4, he deserves them for the hard work he does. 

The last thing I am worried about is the Kraken.  Chevy will make a deal... we won't lose anyone of concern.

In the meantime, with the quarantine dropped to 7 days for incoming players from the US, talks for Ekholm better heat up.  Niku and a first...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 26, 2021, 02:20:48 AM
Another 9 pm start for the Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 26, 2021, 02:09:34 PM
The last thing I am worried about is the Kraken.  Chevy will make a deal... we won't lose anyone of concern.

In the meantime, with the quarantine dropped to 7 days for incoming players from the US, talks for Ekholm better heat up.  Niku and a first...

Chevy's a shrewd manager. I totally agree on not being concerned about the expansion draft.

As for that trade, I think he'd be all over your suggestion. Poile's ask is higher than that, though. Also, it sounds like Ekholm loves Nashville and I'd have my concerns of the Jets retaining him once his contract is up.

The Sabres are a mess. I have to wonder if plucking a RHD like Ristolainen is doable. He'd be a nice addition.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 26, 2021, 04:33:45 PM
Calgary is in a real funk right now. We need to jump on them early and keep the pressure on.

Nice win by UND tonight.

Far to many turnovers in the first period.

Nice second effort by KC81.

Lucic still a dirty player and dumb as a post.

Nice win, but shouldn't have been this close.

6 minutes of PP late in the game and only 1 goal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 27, 2021, 02:40:21 AM
Strong 2 periods of smothering Flames for the most part


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 27, 2021, 01:55:41 PM
Another 9 pm start tonight, I expect there will be some rough stuff tonight. Nice way to end a day of fishing, fish fry, UND hockey, and then the Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 28, 2021, 01:58:44 AM
Terrible 1st. period for the Jet's.

App's 9th, nice quick start in the 2nd.

Nice LS64 first NHL goal.

Very good 2nd. period.

2 questionable goals let in by LB.

3rd. period wasn't much better then the 1st.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 28, 2021, 10:09:16 PM
Felt bad for LBro but hey, he made a couple of mistakes
Big YAHOO for Stanley ..... sure hope that Monday finds Ehlers & company finding the net


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 29, 2021, 04:41:13 PM
Another 9 pm start tonight. I am hoping we can get our act together early tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 30, 2021, 02:12:30 AM
Nice little line shuffle to get 81/27/55 going.

Solid win for the Jet's. Shut down the Flames all night. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 30, 2021, 03:33:44 AM
I like Apps game....   Dude puts his body on the line ever shift.

Good 2 for sure!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 30, 2021, 12:59:38 PM
Best third line in hockey right now. Loved Scheifele with Connor and Ehlers last night, too.

Battle for first tomorrow night!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 30, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
And it's a 6:30 start tomorrow night. nice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 30, 2021, 04:04:01 PM
I would like to see what would happen if we put 85/13/26 together. MP85 is another player that has some O in his game, and is another energy player.

I was also hoping that MT19, was going to be stupid enough to take on Stanley last night when he was having his little battle with Poolman. But he took one look and made a quick exit.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 31, 2021, 02:02:21 PM
Need a big game tonight after a very nice road trip.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 31, 2021, 02:36:45 PM
Wonder who will be in net for the leafs


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 31, 2021, 05:09:24 PM
I am thinking Hutch. Campbell and Anderson are both listed as injured.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on March 31, 2021, 05:21:39 PM
Ya im thinking that to


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on March 31, 2021, 06:29:30 PM
Really terrific results from PM's shuffle of 2 lines ........ really need them to show up tonight

Caught where apparently Campbell starts vs Jets

If Chevy is trying to make a move to get an experienced Dman, whom might you think is the possible lead choice other than Ekholm
For me, RD, R. Ristolainen from the Sabres .... only 26, takes the body, can play offensively with a hard shot, downside - has $5.4M left next year, but a Kraken draft choice perhaps

Stanley Cup winner Vince Dunn at 24 has some decent experience & cheap.  Maybe RD, Josh Manson at 29, with $4.1M for next year     

 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on March 31, 2021, 07:47:50 PM
I like Ristolainen if we can't get Ekholm.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on March 31, 2021, 07:56:33 PM
I'd put Ristolainen at the top of my list with the Sabres perhaps retaining salary to facilitate a trade. Montour's another RHD in Buffalo who could be worth a look at a reasonable price and IIRC, he's able to play on either side.

With the Blues and the Preds both currently in the hunt, I can't see either team moving players at the moment.

Goligoski could be a decent rental that wouldn't cost much to acquire.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on March 31, 2021, 11:24:46 PM
The only good thing about that period was our PK.

BW was missed on the PP.

Slow start tonight cost us that game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on April 01, 2021, 01:11:20 AM
Tired Jets tonight


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 01, 2021, 12:58:28 PM
Tired Jets tonight

Not to mention slow and sloppy. That was embarrassing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 01, 2021, 02:25:26 PM
I thought we had a pretty good third period, but our PP has to be better. 1-5 just will not cut it against the top teams. I would like to see us get PL13 on that first PP unit in front of the net. Big body with, with good hands.

At the end of the night, we were better in the face off circle, more hits, more shots, and more take away's.

Crappy first period and 44 sloppy play leading to a short handed goal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 01, 2021, 03:04:31 PM
After being down 13-2 in shots by mid 1st felt the team really put a decent effort in
Agree that PLD13 just may have better presence on PP than PS25 or even Wheels. However he is still so very unreliable taking faceoffs
PK really kept us relevant, excluding the Leaf shorty

Any feedback on the condition of our captain


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 01, 2021, 03:14:51 PM
Upper or lower body injury. lol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on April 01, 2021, 05:17:19 PM
Considering how god-awful we started, it's no surprised we couldn't catch up despite really pulling it together for the majority of the game. We also couldn't buy a goal, with plenty of great chances. Although I'm disappointed, I can stand to lose that way every once in a while provided we learned our lesson and start out much stronger tomorrow night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 02, 2021, 11:45:47 AM
Maurice knew it was a tough schedule before and he said it. But then he has a morning practice that day. And then he says we knew the first period would be tough to get legs going. Why not take the practice day off. You play at 6 :30 the same day


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 02, 2021, 02:39:24 PM
7:00 pm start tonight. Then the boy's a rest until April 8th. Fish fry and hockey on good Friday night can't get any better then that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 02, 2021, 04:26:40 PM
Just read that Beaulieu had surgery on a torn labrum & is out for the season ......... frees up a bit of Cap Space

Any word on Wheels


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on April 02, 2021, 05:39:02 PM
Apparently he skated with the team this morning.  Game time decision.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 02, 2021, 09:00:54 PM
Sounds like the Jet's will be playing Monday April 5 against Ottawa. A game that was to be played in May.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 02, 2021, 10:00:22 PM
If the Sens are in for Monday rather then in May then that?s terrific

Beaulieu was experienced depth & now I really don't doubt that Chevy will work to bring a Dman in.
Stanley, Poolman, DeMelo & Forbert have been average at least but if any loss of games starts occurring I don't like the
thought of Heinola, Nogier, etc., taking full shifts in the playoffs


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 03, 2021, 02:08:14 AM
We played better, but missed a number of good scoring chances.

Need to start scoring again.

The over 30 line, played very good again tonight.

Oiler's jump into a tie us for 2nd. place with a win over Calgary.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 03, 2021, 12:08:29 PM
Jets  played good had good chances. They hit a.bit more which seemed to work against Toronto. Shootout could have went 5 hole on campbell. But got a point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 03, 2021, 06:06:55 PM
Not happy with only a point ........ but that was another effort against the Leafs that was entertaining & a nail biter 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 03, 2021, 09:06:47 PM
Won't win to many games scoring 1 goal. Would be nice if NE27 could start finding the net again. 1st unit PP needs a little over haul. 13 in 25 out. Need a bigger body, stronger player in front of the net. On the other hand love our PK units. Also Thompson played very well with Apps, and Lowry, the few shifts they played together.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on April 03, 2021, 11:33:52 PM
Dubois !...yikes. Guy stands around a lot.  I don't see him providing much of a band. For the Bucks we. Give him.

Kets need a DMan who either someone to fear, or a real offensive defenceman. What happened to Morrisey.m us he playing for. Free agency? Secondly, Pionk weighs how much 140 pounds.

We have. Five. AHL. Defencemen and a disinterested Morrissey
Is Wheeler done?  So much so he's working his way down the lineup.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 04, 2021, 02:08:17 AM
Dubois !...yikes. Guy stands around a lot.  I don't see him providing much of a band. For the Bucks we. Give him.

Kets need a DMan who either someone to fear, or a real offensive defenceman. What happened to Morrisey.m us he playing for. Free agency? Secondly, Pionk weighs how much 140 pounds.

We have. Five. AHL. Defencemen and a disinterested Morrissey
Is Wheeler done?  So much so he's working his way down the lineup.

What band are you talking about, and who are the Kets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 04, 2021, 07:59:14 PM
6 pm start on Monday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on April 05, 2021, 09:00:16 PM
Dubois !...yikes. Guy stands around a lot.  I don't see him providing much of a band. For the Bucks we. Give him.

Kets need a DMan who either someone to fear, or a real offensive defenceman. What happened to Morrisey.m us he playing for. Free agency? Secondly, Pionk weighs how much 140 pounds.

We have. Five. AHL. Defencemen and a disinterested Morrissey
Is Wheeler done?  So much so he's working his way down the lineup.

Astute observations, as always...


Nah... not worth it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 05, 2021, 09:00:32 PM
Going to watch how the Sens d-man, Mike Reilly performs tonight. Has 16 assists, kills penalties & seems decent defensively on a minus team
Cheap, $1.5 AAV, depth addition for perhaps S. Niku


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 05, 2021, 09:17:06 PM
Going to watch how the Sens d-man, Mike Reilly performs tonight. Has 16 assists, kills penalties & seems decent defensively on a minus team
Cheap, $1.5 AAV, depth addition for perhaps S. Niku

 Why would they want Niku???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 05, 2021, 10:46:21 PM
Nice goal by PL13, great play by BW26.

3 penalties not so good, nice that we have a very good PK.

Nice 2nd. period by the Jet's.

Pl13, standing around doing nothing gets his 2nd. of the night. lol

Another dirty play by Brady, I think he will have to answer for that.

Not a great ending, but it's still 2 points.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 06, 2021, 01:26:34 AM
No real idea why they may want Sami, cept he is young & is a decent puck handler

Score should have been a run away but such is competitive sports ....... when ya least expect it ....... ending is much to close.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2021, 12:29:44 PM
Dubois !...yikes. Guy stands around a lot.  I don't see him providing much of a band. For the Bucks we. Give him.

Kets need a DMan who either someone to fear, or a real offensive defenceman. What happened to Morrisey.m us he playing for. Free agency? Secondly, Pionk weighs how much 140 pounds.

We have. Five. AHL. Defencemen and a disinterested Morrissey
Is Wheeler done?  So much so he's working his way down the lineup.

The Blue Jackets gave Dubois his contract, not the Jets. Or the Kets, per your usual intelligible commentary.

Nice win last night but the Jets (or is it Kets?) still can't play a consistent 60 mins. That's concerning as the season winds down, IMO.

Still wondering what Cheveldayoff has up his sleeve for a potential trade...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on April 06, 2021, 04:08:44 PM
Good win, nice depth work.  Still amazed at 11,23,85 as a 4th line.  I think Maurice is as well....

Anderson played well, could have been a lot bigger margin of victory had he not stood on his head.

Waiting for trade deadline... thinking Niku might find a new home, hope we can land Ekholm or Savard... anything less on the trade board right now really seems a lateral move.  We do have some top D prospects still to come...

Would Van be looking at moving any of thier expiring contract Dmen?  Are they some of the ones that got COVID?   Benn (+5) or Edler (-8) as a rental?  Or Hamonic? (-3)  We could have had Hamonic in FA, not sure how he fits now...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 06, 2021, 06:12:37 PM
Anderson? He's the backup in DC. Anton Forsberg was in net for the Senators last night. And he did play pretty well.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 06, 2021, 06:38:18 PM
Good win, nice depth work.  Still amazed at 11,23,85 as a 4th line.  I think Maurice is as well....

Anderson played well, could have been a lot bigger margin of victory had he not stood on his head.

Waiting for trade deadline... thinking Niku might find a new home, hope we can land Ekholm or Savard... anything less on the trade board right now really seems a lateral move.  We do have some top D prospects still to come...

Would Van be looking at moving any of thier expiring contract Dmen?  Are they some of the ones that got COVID?   Benn (+5) or Edler (-8) as a rental?  Or Hamonic? (-3)  We could have had Hamonic in FA, not sure how he fits now...

The 11/23/95 line is not a surprised to Moe, or any one on the Jet's staff. It was report a number of time in TC that the over 30 line had an very good TC.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 06, 2021, 07:25:25 PM
I am hoping NE27 can get out of his scoring drought on Thursday against Montreal. No goals in 10 games.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on April 07, 2021, 12:40:54 AM
It looks as though tonight's game against Vancouver is postponed because several Canucks players and coaches are on COVID protocol.

https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/nhl-postpones-canucks-games-through-april-6-following-players-coaching-staff-entering-covid-protocol/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 07, 2021, 03:23:15 AM
Carey Price is day to day and will not make the trip to Toronto on Wednesday. This could mean he would miss our game against Montreal on Thursday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 07, 2021, 05:32:18 PM
Price day to day & Gallagher meanwhile goes on LTIR

Beloved team taking a blow with Wheels declared out indefinitely
Harkins is in


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 07, 2021, 08:43:17 PM
Yeah, concussion thanks to Tkachuk and that dirty elbow. Appalling what dirtbags he and his older brother are.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 07, 2021, 09:59:58 PM
Yeah, concussion thanks to Tkachuk and that dirty elbow. Appalling what dirtbags he and his older brother are.

I was surprised at the time he didn't get more for that elbow. I also thought someone would have made him pay for it, but then the game got to close. Always next time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on April 08, 2021, 01:04:04 PM
The 11/23/95 line is not a surprised to Moe, or any one on the Jet's staff. It was report a number of time in TC that the over 30 line had an very good TC.

Yes, they clicked in TC, and have advanced since...  but has you said before TC that 11/23/85 was going to be a contributing line that will roll throughout the game, you might have gotten some giggle...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 08, 2021, 01:24:04 PM
You have three solid veteran players with nearly 2200 games of NHL experience on that line, which equates to specific roles on the ice and I'd have to assume a really good contribution to the locker room culture as well.

That proven forward depth is exactly what makes the Jets as good as they have been despite their struggles on the blue line and inconsistent two-way play. I don't think it's some huge surprise or best kept secret this is what management and coaching wanted from the fourth line going into this abbreviated season. It seemed to rub many the wrong way in that it takes ice time away from younger players still developing but that's why there's the AHL. These seasoned players may be past their prime, so to speak, but they round out what's arguably one of the best forward rosters in the league while giving the organization time to properly mature.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 08, 2021, 01:49:30 PM
An early 6 pm start tonight, with some line shuffling. Should be interesting.

81/55/27.   85/17/22.    25/13/9.   12/11/23.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 08, 2021, 09:36:14 PM
D. Savard, dman for Columbus has been pulled from starting lineup
Should we speculate that Chevy is making a pitch or does Savard go elsewhere


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 08, 2021, 09:51:07 PM
5or6 teams are looking for D-men, so it could be anyone of the 5 or 6. As long as we don't end up with PK, or give up another 1st. round pick for a rental I will be okay.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 08, 2021, 10:52:26 PM
Nice, NE27 gets the monkey off his back.

Jake Allen playing in his first back to back, and doesn't look good.

85/17/22, have looked strong tonight.

I will take the win, not pretty but it's 2 points.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 09, 2021, 01:28:42 AM
Not a masterpiece by any means but Hellebuyck stood tall. Take the two points!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 09, 2021, 01:55:52 PM
Not a masterpiece by any means but Hellebuyck stood tall. Take the two points!

Agree, Montreal beat us in every stat, but Helly was the difference.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 09, 2021, 07:22:30 PM
Bit underwhelmed as the Jets were more fresh ........ but thanks to HellB ---- 2 point victory

Definitely don't anticipate Chevy to go after P.K. Subban & his $9.M contract for next year
Perhaps for sheer depth, Chevy grabs D. Kulikov off the Devils. Easy fit on ice & in the locker room, if any injuries occur. Cap hit is cheap.   NOT an upgrade though


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 09, 2021, 07:40:03 PM
Bit underwhelmed as the Jets were more fresh ........ but thanks to HellB ---- 2 point victory

Definitely don't anticipate Chevy to go after P.K. Subban & his $9.M contract for next year
Perhaps for sheer depth, Chevy grabs D. Kulikov off the Devils. Easy fit on ice & in the locker room, if any injuries occur. Cap hit is cheap.   NOT an upgrade though

I am hearing PK for two left handed sticks, and the devils will pay half of his salary for this and next season. lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 10, 2021, 03:21:06 AM
Jet's sign 20 year old D-man, Simon Lundmark 6'1"- 201, to a 3 year entry level deal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 10, 2021, 07:25:33 PM
Montour is added to the Panthers dmen for a 3rd Rd pick ........ Manson supposedly listed the jets as one of his No Move To teams

what is out there Chevy ....... can't remember where I heard or read it, that Chi's Zadorov is a topic. Listed at 6.6, he has 137 hits in 41 games this year 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 11, 2021, 02:17:57 AM
Pretty solid effort. Nice to see the PP come back to live. To bad the Leaf's won tonight.

Flames beat the Oilers which helps us out.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 11, 2021, 04:57:32 PM
Boring first but momentum increased & an efficient, complete protect the lead game resulted.
Nice to see Forbert put a puck in the net

Counting down to the Trade deadline ........ any rumours with legs ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 12, 2021, 03:51:39 AM
Devils put S. Vatanen on waivers ....... depth Chevy depth


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 12, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
6:00 pm start again tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 12, 2021, 04:25:59 PM
12:24 Winnipeg time and no moves yet for the Jet's.  The only thing moving this morning is my snow blower. lol


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on April 12, 2021, 04:45:09 PM
Devils put S. Vatanen on waivers ....... depth Chevy depth

$2mil cap hit, leaves none for other acquisitions...

Ekholm would have been nice, but Nash thinks they might have a shot this year.

Jamie Oleksiak is interesting... pair him with Stanley... they could cover the entire blue line...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 12, 2021, 05:29:55 PM
30 minutes left, will Chevy pull the trigger on a deal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 12, 2021, 05:58:45 PM
Crickets on the Jet's trade front.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 12, 2021, 06:23:50 PM
Jordie Benn to the Jet's for a 6th round pick.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 12, 2021, 07:04:24 PM
Benn for depth but I feel underwhelmed
Really, really need hockey Gods to favour team health
 Goooo Jets Goooo


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 12, 2021, 08:24:23 PM
Not sure there was going to be a big splash by Cheveldayoff today. A depth blue liner with some grit for a sixth is meh but unsurprising.

Health is going to be key going forward but I'd argue more consistent 60-min. play is crucial for their success looking to the playoffs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 12, 2021, 08:55:07 PM
Blake Wheeler skated again today. It looked like he was doing a lot of skating drills. Looked like he was testing a lower body injury.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 12, 2021, 10:46:36 PM
Nice period for the Jet's, to bad that weak goal went in at the end of the period.

Well the PP in that period was not very good. Love NE27, but maybe not on the point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 13, 2021, 12:48:12 AM
Don't PVR games but I'm guessing 5 breakaways by the young Sens ........ Horrible Jet effort in 60 minutes

Noted that our regular centers had 1 shot total between the 4 of them ...... MS55 had the lone one


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 13, 2021, 02:09:43 AM
PP could change this game. Just didn't get the job done.

Blew a big chance to gain a couple of points on Toronto, with Montreal beating them tonight.

Looking for a big bounce back on Wednesday.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2021, 12:07:28 PM
Real stinkfest last night after giving up the two-goal lead. Just gotta burn this tape and move on, IMO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 13, 2021, 03:21:33 PM
The 12 giveaway's.

Helly had a rough night controlling the puck.

1-5 on the PP, and some sloppy play by the 2nd. unit.

All added up to a big L.

To bad we came out fast and where looking strong.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 13, 2021, 04:53:04 PM
So when will we see J Benn. Will he be wearing #8. Do we run 7 D, or which current D-man comes out.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2021, 05:03:32 PM
If we par out the back nine, we are in the playoffs.  That's all you need.  We will do well then, as long as we have Hellebuyck between the pipes.

Yes, a bad game last night.  So did Toronto. It happens.

As to trade deadline, other than missing out on Savard, who went early, we really did not miss out...  Hutton went for a fifth, w got Benn for a 6th... and Benn doesn't have to quarantine (although I don't want him near the team until we get a couple negative tests ;) ).

No doubt Chevy was burning up the lines, trying to find the big D deal, but not willing to give up Samberg or Heinola, which is good.  Some may criticize him for "taking a Chevy Day Off", I think he probably worked very hard.  Sometimes the best deal is the one you don't make...

Laine got 2 goals after not getting traded again at the deadline...  

So when will we see J Benn. Will he be wearing #8. Do we run 7 D, or which current D-man comes out.

I expect, coming from COVID central, they will be cautious with him, barring injury.  I'm guessing taxi squad with Heinola or Samberg going down, and maybe giving Benn a shot in place of Demelo... Benn / Stanley would be a tough pairing.  Morresey/Poolman are comfortable and Pionk / Forbort are working good...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 13, 2021, 05:20:03 PM
If we par out the back nine, we are in the playoffs.  That's all you need.  We will do well then, as long as we have Hellebuyck between the pipes.

Yes, a bad game last night.  So did Toronto. It happens.

As to trade deadline, other than missing out on Savard, who went early, we really did not miss out...  Hutton went for a fifth, w got Benn for a 6th... and Benn doesn't have to quarantine (although I don't want him near the team until we get a couple negative tests ;) ).

No doubt Chevy was burning up the lines, trying to find the big D deal, but not willing to give up Samberg or Heinola, which is good.  Some may criticize him for "taking a Chevy Day Off", I think he probably worked very hard.  Sometimes the best deal is the one you don't make...

Laine got 2 goals after not getting traded again at the deadline...  

I expect, coming from COVID central, they will be cautious with him, barring injury.  I'm guessing taxi squad with Heinola or Samberg going down, and maybe giving Benn a shot in place of Demelo... Benn / Stanley would be a tough pairing.  Morresey/Poolman are comfortable and Pionk / Forbort are working good...

PL29 was never on the trade block so I am not surprised. He has 3 goals in his last 2 games, so it seems like he mite be coming around. Also his 2nd. goal last night mite the highlight goal of the year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 13, 2021, 05:40:49 PM
Anyone who expected Cheveldayoff to make a big splash yesterday isn't being cognizant of how he operates. He's not the type to mortgage future assets for a rental. Benn as insurance on the back end for a sixth rounder is a low-risk move while also practical.

I can't see Benn taking DeMelo's spot. He probably takes Beaulieu's spot at 7D. It also sounds like he'll have to quarantine first but I haven't seen what that entails.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on April 13, 2021, 06:21:30 PM
PL29 was never on the trade block so I am not surprised. He has 3 goals in his last 2 games, so it seems like he mite be coming around. Also his 2nd. goal last night mite the highlight goal of the year.

His goal was similar to Appleton's earlier this year, except for he started behind his own net... other than that it was rush the net and tuck it around the goalie... m'eh... certainly not goal of the year contender, Ehlers has scored much nicer goals...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on April 13, 2021, 06:28:06 PM
I'm fine not paying big $ to go all in on a player this year. Heinola and Samberg are not touchable IMO, and to a lesser extent, I'm happy to also retain our first rounders.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 13, 2021, 07:31:03 PM
His goal was similar to Appleton's earlier this year, except for he started behind his own net... other than that it was rush the net and tuck it around the goalie... m'eh... certainly not goal of the year contender, Ehlers has scored much nicer goals...


Not sure what highlight you were watching? PL29 picked the puck up on the half wall in his own end of the ice. Back pedals with the puck to the goal line and then takes off around the net leaving Debrincat waving his stick in his Jet stream. Blows pass Kirby Dach at center ice, makes a solid move on De Haan and then powers past Stillman and tucks it around the goalie. Love App's but not even close to the App's goal. I voted for it as the 1V1 highlight of the night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 14, 2021, 02:27:35 AM
JB40, Jordie Benn will wear #40.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 14, 2021, 02:59:58 PM
Another 6 pm start tonight. I hope the Jet's can play a complete game tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on April 14, 2021, 07:32:33 PM
Not sure what highlight you were watching? PL29 picked the puck up on the half wall in his own end of the ice. Back pedals with the puck to the goal line and then takes off around the net leaving Debrincat waving his stick in his Jet stream. Blows pass Kirby Dach at center ice, makes a solid move on De Haan and then powers past Stillman and tucks it around the goalie. Love App's but not even close to the App's goal. I voted for it as the 1V1 highlight of the night.

His moves were not ankle breakers.  He got the benefit of some bad position.  He did make moves, but if you watch his "scoring touch" at the end, it was the same as Appletons.  Laine is supposed to be the quick release, snap shot up where gramma hides the cookies.  This was more an Ehlers type goal.  Sure, it was nice, but its not classic Laine...

BTW, G&L on Logan has plenty of authentic 29 Jerseys on sale for $39.99...  ;)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 14, 2021, 07:49:14 PM
His moves were not ankle breakers.  He got the benefit of some bad position.  He did make moves, but if you watch his "scoring touch" at the end, it was the same as Appletons.  Laine is supposed to be the quick release, snap shot up where gramma hides the cookies.  This was more an Ehlers type goal.  Sure, it was nice, but its not classic Laine...

BTW, G&L on Logan has plenty of authentic 29 Jerseys on sale for $39.99...  ;)

 I already have PL29 in my collection.

PL29 wins 1V1 highlight of the night, I guess a lot of people liked that goal. ;).


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 14, 2021, 11:40:14 PM
Pretty even game. This young Ottawa is a hand full.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 15, 2021, 01:11:18 AM
Good goaltending from Bro was no doubt a huge factor in winning.

Ottawa is going to be great in a few years


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 15, 2021, 02:11:05 AM
I really like PL13 and strong he is with the puck. He also make some very nice passes.

PK continues to be very good.

2nd. team PP looked good tonight.

Not our best effort, but we will take the 2 points.

This team could really us a couple of days off.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 15, 2021, 02:06:01 PM
Another 6 pm start tonight. The next 7 game are all against the Oilers and the Leaf's. After Saturday's game we get a nice 3 day break, which I am sure this team is looking forward to.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 15, 2021, 03:04:52 PM
Matthews out for tonight's game. Nylander still out due to COVID protocol.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 15, 2021, 03:16:24 PM
Matthews out for tonight's game. Nylander still out due to COVID protocol.

Nice.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 15, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
No Jet excuses .... Leafs short a big gunner & Nylander ..... gonna be fast action


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 15, 2021, 07:44:11 PM
Heinola in for Stanley tonight. He'll play with DeMelo.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 15, 2021, 07:49:47 PM
Nice little story on SN today about Helle and his road to the NHL. Really didn't know how great this Helle was as a junior player with the Odessa Jackalopes.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 16, 2021, 01:31:00 AM
Solid win for the Jet's tonight. Pretty much controlled the Leaf's all night.

Nice second effort goal by NE27. MS55 breakaway move was solid.

Love the Jet's speed tonight.

Our PK very good again tonight.

Leaf's PP is terrible. 1-42???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 16, 2021, 01:39:10 AM
Big road win! Didn't know the Jets have the best road record in the NHL. That's extremely impressive.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 16, 2021, 06:20:32 PM
Elliotte Friedman reporting on Twitter that talks between the Jets and Adam Lowry on a new contract are progressing nicely.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 16, 2021, 07:07:14 PM
Lowry has re-upped for the next 5 years for $16.25 ....... nice price for an important piece going forward

Turning point was the PK while being 2 short, then 1 short & scoring shortly after  ........ WOWEE !!
Course it did help that the Leafs didn't slow down our speed much, Ehlers big effort, etc., etc..  And big game for our Mr. Vezina

Any word on Wheeler


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 16, 2021, 07:10:52 PM
What a fantastic deal!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 16, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
Lowry has re-upped for the next 5 years for $16.25 ....... nice price for an important piece going forward

Turning point was the PK while being 2 short, then 1 short & scoring shortly after  ........ WOWEE !!
Course it did help that the Leafs didn't slow down our speed much, Ehlers big effort, etc., etc..  And big game for our Mr. Vezina

Any word on Wheeler

$3.25 a year is a very nice deal. lol

$3.25M per is an super cap friendly deal for the Jet's.

So I guess he will be one of our protected forwards for the up coming expansion draft.

I am wondering what Copp will be looking for $$M.

Wheeler is skating everyday. I think I would be giving him the extra 3-4 days rest.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 17, 2021, 05:49:25 PM
Game starts at 6pm on CBC, no RNH93 for the Oilers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 18, 2021, 12:53:19 AM
Just wasn't happening in any real positive way for the Jets
Time off for the coaches to refuel & get the team organized for another push starting Thursday


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 18, 2021, 02:03:53 AM
Can't say anything good about the Jet's play tonight.

To many penalties. Breakdown's in the D zone.

PP just wasn't clicking at all.

It will be nice to get BW26 back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 18, 2021, 07:29:50 PM
Another homestand started off with a stinker. I don't get why this issue keeps plaguing the team when they return home.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 18, 2021, 08:33:56 PM
It is frustrating to see the Jet's play so well on the road, and then come home and play so crappy the first game back.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 20, 2021, 04:27:00 PM
Wheeler was back on the top line this morning at practice. I imagine he slots back into the lineup for Thursday's tilt vs. the Leafs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 21, 2021, 08:09:22 PM
Addition of Wheeler is nothing but positive for the relentless spirit needed vs the vulnerable Leafs.   Nothing against Harkins, assuming he draws out, of course


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on April 21, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
Addition of Wheeler is nothing but positive for the relentless spirit needed vs the vulnerable Leafs.   Nothing against Harkins, assuming he draws out, of course

Agreed. We felt his absence especially hard on Saturday after zero urgency shown against the Oilers. I'm not a Wheeler hater or anything but I assumed we would chug along just fine without him. For the most part, we did, but wow was it noticeable how much he was needed in a game like that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 21, 2021, 08:34:34 PM
BW26 is a big part of 1# PP unit. Really like App's, but no wear close to BW.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 23, 2021, 12:57:48 AM
Horrible start & a loss ....... not much from me other than I sure hope Lowry is okay


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 23, 2021, 02:09:52 AM
Helly didn't look like he was ready to play tonight.

Two head shots. Both could have been avoided.

I thought 81/55/26 looked very good 5 on 5.

I really like the way PL13 handles the puck in the O zone. I also like how physical he is. Just need to get him scoring.

LB, played very good tonight.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 23, 2021, 12:41:53 PM
When is maurice going to play sami niko and  heinola. Instead of Forbort and anyone else.  He keeps better players with the Moose.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 23, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
When is maurice going to play sami niko and  heinola. Instead of Forbort and anyone else.  He keeps better players with the Moose.

Don't think you will see either of them in the lineup the rest of the year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2021, 03:56:04 PM
When is maurice going to play sami niko and  heinola. Instead of Forbort and anyone else.  He keeps better players with the Moose.

Niku is pretty meh. To suggest he or Heinola is better than the current blue line on the big club is pretty off-base.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 23, 2021, 05:02:55 PM
Niku is pretty meh. To suggest he or Heinola is better than the current blue line on the big club is pretty off-base.

Agree. We had to sit out Stanley yesterday who is better then both of these guys.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on April 23, 2021, 05:08:11 PM
Well they just got beat pretty bad at home after a 4 day rest on a team with a 5 game losing streak. I guess they are doing good. Vancouver swept the leafs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2021, 05:25:16 PM
Well they just got beat pretty bad at home after a 4 day rest on a team with a 5 game losing streak. I guess they are doing good. Vancouver swept the leafs.

Losing by a goal is hardly getting beat bad. And you can't honestly believe Heinola or Niku (especially him) would've changed the outcome last night. Your logic isn't sound.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 23, 2021, 06:07:01 PM
And then Vancouver lost to the Sens last night .......... that's competitive sports


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on April 23, 2021, 06:20:34 PM
Well they just got beat pretty bad at home after a 4 day rest on a team with a 5 game losing streak. I guess they are doing good. Vancouver swept the leafs.

You may have just answered your own question. Coming off a break means rust + you never want to play a very good team that just lost a bunch. This had trap written all over it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 23, 2021, 08:11:59 PM
Hyman $5,000 fine for his slash on NP4.

Thornton $3,017.24 fine for his hit on MP85.

What will Galchenyuk get for his hit on AL17?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 24, 2021, 04:06:23 PM
6 pm start tonight. Need a big win. Go Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 24, 2021, 06:16:46 PM
Lowry will be missed tonight, however it is supposedly a deep forward group ....... so may they backcheck like buggers & finish around the net often


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 25, 2021, 01:40:32 AM
We are definitely in a bad place.

Can't let Jumbo Joe, take shots at NE27 all night either.

PP is very vanilla. Still don't have that big shot from the point. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 25, 2021, 01:42:23 AM
Just not happening ....... horrible luck on crappy bounce for Marner's goal, otherwise HellB was alright.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 25, 2021, 01:43:33 AM
Very, very correct about no big, threatening shot from the point


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 26, 2021, 12:16:17 PM
The lack of urgency from this team the last few games is troubling as the season winds down.

What's up with Scheifele getting benched for 3/4 of the second period on Saturday?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 26, 2021, 12:17:29 PM
The lack of urgency from this team the last few games is troubling as the season winds down.

What's up with Scheifele getting benched for 3/4 of the second period on Saturday?
 


I think it was poor play in our D zone.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 26, 2021, 02:07:07 PM
8 pm start tonight. It doesn't look like we will end up in 1st. place. The way we play at home, it mite be a good idea not to finish in 2nd. place. Need to get something going tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 26, 2021, 03:54:45 PM
Ehlers will sit out the balance of the regular season ......... PM has hope that he will be available for playoffs.

Lowry was not included in the practice today
At the skatee this morn ........ Chef is with Copp & Apple while PLD is with Wheels & Conman
Stastny goes down with Vesalainen & Perrault 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 26, 2021, 06:14:44 PM
went by this when I put down Apple with Chef ............  https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-forward-nikolaj-ehlers-done-for-regular-season-1.1629955


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 27, 2021, 01:37:29 AM
Yes, we are hot garbage tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 27, 2021, 11:25:30 PM
An Oiler super star had finish & we couldn't beat Smith


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 28, 2021, 01:57:28 PM
Another 8 pm start tonight for the Jet's.

Same line up as Monday night. Also same lines which is nice. I was hoping LS64 would be in the line up tonight.

AL17 continues to skate in the no contact jersey. Nice that he is skating.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on April 28, 2021, 05:57:14 PM
Not liking the last 2 weeks of the Jets. This has been our first time going 4 games without a point (and I don't think we went 3 games without a point previously, either). Makes me a little less excited for the games, but that's probably due not to the fact we are losing, but simply not even playing excited or neck-to-neck hockey. Give me something exciting to watch tonight, and one with 2 points is all the better.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 28, 2021, 07:33:23 PM
Injuries are haven't helped us the last couple of games. At the end of the day, our D is just not good enough. Helly has had a couple of tough games, and we need more scoring.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 28, 2021, 11:00:07 PM
As a Stanley fan, I am disappointed, but not surprised, that he isn't in the lineup.   However, Benn needs back to back to gage his meshing with the team.

Dubois, Connors & Wheels hopefully will get some offensive success going.   I'm definitely hoping that Poolman, DeMelo & Harkins can hit the back of the net 

Be a Big Star tonight HellB
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 29, 2021, 01:44:10 AM
After 2 periods I think we have played much better.

No penalties on the Oilers so far?????




Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 29, 2021, 02:47:13 AM
Not happy with the lose, but we played a very good game.

AL17 and NE27, will make us much better in the playoffs.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on April 29, 2021, 04:46:10 PM
Hard to find the silver lining but it was a more competitive effort at least (read: we didn't get our butts kicked like the last 4 games)

Still, it bothers me that I have no faith we can score more than a goal a game, and if we go down by one or more, that we can come back. Confidence has been shot in this time at this point in time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 29, 2021, 05:26:52 PM
Well we are playing Montreal on Friday night. The Habs aren't very good right now either.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on April 29, 2021, 05:29:15 PM
Not bad defensive effort  ...... felt 13, 85 & 93 were playing fast, completing checks & forcing the play


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 29, 2021, 05:42:23 PM
Moe has to get some lines together and leave them. Changing lines every game, just doesn't work. I also think all our forwards played well, but we still didn't score. Not going to win to many games 1-0.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 30, 2021, 01:28:12 PM
6pm start tonight. Montreal hasn't been playing well, good time to turn this losing streak around.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on April 30, 2021, 02:41:46 PM
Jets have the longest current losing streak playing a team that, while struggling, want to retain the last playoff spot in their division.  This is a pretty important and necessary game to win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on April 30, 2021, 03:22:10 PM
Montreal should be very hungry tonight. But at the end of the day, they just don't score a lot of goals.

Price, Drouin, Tatar, Byron, and Gally all should be out for tonight.

Anyone heard if AL17 has taken off the yellow jersey yet?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on April 30, 2021, 07:12:00 PM
Jets haven't scored much lately, either.

Could make for a very boring game or a complete barn-burner. Jets gotta get back on track in a big way, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on May 01, 2021, 12:54:27 AM
Epic collapse.  This team is in trouble.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 01, 2021, 01:51:36 AM
So bad ..... so Sad ...... our supposed main keys to success, Morrissey, Sheif, Wheels, Connor are not making things happen.
The lack of magic from HellB, that he had in most of his earlier season starts, has exposed how suspect our defensive & transition game really is.

YIKES ........ YIKES ....... again YIKES


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 01, 2021, 02:19:13 AM
The good new, AL17 could be back for Monday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 01, 2021, 11:45:33 AM
Jets played good against the Oilers even though they got beat  3-1 the other day. They outplayed edmonton. But they have to think about taking some veterans off the roster and putting in some of the Moose players.  Other teams have figured Winnipeg out. They usually do around playoff time. Get in a couple new defenseman and 2 or 3  new forwards. Maurice likes to play his players no matter what. Even when he does bring in a player its not the best player out of the moose. Why have  farm team if you dont know how to use it. There is a few teams like that . Montreal is another team . Afraid to make a change. Only timdvthry make a change is when they change the goalie .


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 01, 2021, 10:11:51 PM
So let hear which veterans you would like to replace and with who?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on May 02, 2021, 11:00:48 AM
Bring in 3 players not always the same two.  But its probably more the coach not coaching. That's why they see 6 losses. Jets need scoring . . And lessen icectime for morrisey and Forbort. Too many times caught and looking at someone scoring and trying to clear the net  aftercthe puck is in the net .


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 02, 2021, 12:57:51 PM
Bring in 3 players not always the same two.  But its probably more the coach not coaching. That's why they see 6 losses. Jets need scoring . . And lessen icectime for morrisey and Forbort. Too many times caught and looking at someone scoring and trying to clear the net  aftercthe puck is in the net .

So you still haven't said which vet's you would take out of the lineup and which MM players you would put in for them??

Now it's the coaching, your all over the map.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 02, 2021, 05:14:45 PM
Another 6 pm start tomorrow on TSN5.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 02, 2021, 08:00:34 PM
Understand that Lowry was going full out between Copp & Appleton at practise, with Sheif between Connor & Wheels.
If Lowry is healthy for tomorrow ...... does Harkins come out or Vesalainen  ....... I'm guessing Harkins plays on the 4th line

Do hope that Stanley gets back in.      Does PM start HellB ??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 03, 2021, 08:37:03 PM
Well it's time for a big win tonight. I am hoping we give LB30 the start tonight. Love Helly, but it's time to give LB a start.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 03, 2021, 10:16:34 PM
Surprisingly, for me, Vesalainen is in & Harkins out
Go Stanley Go Brossoit Go


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 04, 2021, 12:36:30 AM
Solid effort by the Jet's , but your not going to win to many games only scoring 1 goal.

Montreal won tonight there now tied with us in 3rd place.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 04, 2021, 12:59:54 AM
Really a big shame that hockey luck was not with the Jets ........ sooooo many chances


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 04, 2021, 02:25:41 AM
AL17 looked very good tonight. Really missed what he brings to the table.

PP looked good at times, but just not putting the puck in the net.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 05, 2021, 01:18:07 PM
8:30 start tonight in Calgary.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 05, 2021, 04:07:41 PM
Wil guess Harkins draws in & Vesa takes a seat upstairs ......... PM used Vesa for less than 6 minutes the last game so perhaps Harkins better suited on 4th line.
Bross really gave the Jets good tending but no doubt that HellB will draw in tonight

Crunch time & hopefully HellB has an A+ game cuz the Flames will have their chances


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 05, 2021, 05:19:09 PM
Like Montreal, it mite have been time to bring in Cole Perfetti. Young player with some scoring touch.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 05, 2021, 06:07:24 PM
Like Montreal, it mite have been time to bring in Cole Perfetti. Young player with some scoring touch.

If an unproven rookie is what's needed for this team to rediscover its offense, they're in real trouble.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 05, 2021, 06:19:15 PM
If an unproven rookie is what's needed for this team to rediscover its offense, they're in real trouble.

They are in real trouble. Just like Montreal they need an offensive spark. Montreal threw in CC22 and he created a spark for there O.

JH12   22 games 1A
KV93  12 games 1A.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 05, 2021, 09:39:54 PM
Just heard  >>>>> V. Heinola draws in to partner with DeMelo, Cheering for him to have a positive night
 Pionk & Morrissey are paired to start as are Poolman & Forbert       Harkins does dress over Vesa 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on May 06, 2021, 12:29:39 AM
Looking at the stats from the Ottawa game, Morrissey had 9 shots, Pionk had 4, and none of the forwards had more than 3 (Wheeler).
 Copp, Appleton and Perreault had 0 shots.
According to the player stats found in https://www.nhl.com/jets/stats/regular-season/skaters/spct,  Perrault has the highest scoring percentage on the team at 17.6 %, and Scheifele is second at 16.8 %, so maybe these guys need to shoot the puck more.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 06, 2021, 12:42:46 AM
Nice shot by AL17.

Solid period for the Jet's. However only 6 shots.

Another nice goal by AL17.

Nice work by BW26.

Good to see us get a few breaks tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on May 06, 2021, 02:25:00 AM
An old cliche says win games by winning each period, each shift, and each puck battle, which we seem to be doing tonight.

We were outshot 32 - 19 by Calgary, but 17 of Calgary's shots were in the 3rd period, probably more than half of them on Morrissey's double minor.
We seemed to be in the Calgary puck carrier's face most much of the time, which prevented some uncontested Calgary scoring chances.

Found some stats that show our team Corsi rating of 47.9% is 23rd, our 59 points is 14th, our 98 goals scored is 20th, but our 93 goals against is tied for 9th.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/teamtable.php

So despite getting outshot, we are managing to outscore our opponents, so thank goodness for Connor Hellebuyck !


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 06, 2021, 02:28:53 AM
BW26 with another nice goal. BW26 800 points, MS55 500 points.

Nice shutout by Helly.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on May 06, 2021, 03:18:34 AM
.....and clinched a playoff spot with the win today.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 06, 2021, 01:28:10 PM
 I am hoping that Moe leaves our top 3 lines together for the rest of the season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 06, 2021, 01:56:28 PM
.....and clinched a playoff spot with the win today.

Tons of milestones! 300th win for Maurice as HC of the Jets.

Solid performance all around last night, so here's hoping they're back on the right track for the playoffs. Also some revenge for last year's qualifying round goonery pulled by the Lames.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 06, 2021, 06:11:04 PM
Part way thru 1st, I texted my sister that it feels like a playoff game style. Sawyer & Beyak also brought that up a few times. Seemed every shift was focused with or away from the puck.
Really was impressed & oh so happy to see terrific results. HellB had the A game - - Hooray
Heinola was really decent & would be shocked if he doesn?t draw into lineup next game


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 08, 2021, 06:39:43 PM
NP4 is out and JB40 is in. 6 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 09, 2021, 02:28:06 AM
KC81 needs to get that monkey off his back ASAP.

PL13 is playing a pretty solid game, but we also need some O out of him.

This young Ottawa is playing some pretty solid hockey lately.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 09, 2021, 06:35:12 PM
Not an energetic, IMHO, showing. Felt the Sens looked more ready with a plan than the Jets.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 09, 2021, 07:07:16 PM
Vancouver at 7pm. I am hoping we can put some pucks in the net, early and often.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 10, 2021, 04:55:50 PM
Poolman & Heinola possibly not in lineup ...... at practice Morrissey was with Pionk, DeMelo - Forbort, Stanley - Benn ...... while Heinola paired with Niku

Stastny is now switched to the wing with Lowry & Apple while Copp is on the wing with Dubois & Perrault 

Brossoit is in goal 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 10, 2021, 08:38:44 PM
So it turns out that it will be Pionk with Poolman & also HellB sitting in the Press Box.

Comrie will back up Bro, while Heinola is paired with Morrissey


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 10, 2021, 08:43:44 PM
Well our PP really sucks right now.

1 goal isn't going to win you to many games.

Vancouver did get a couple of lucky bounces.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on May 11, 2021, 03:17:24 AM
1 and 9 in their last 10 games.  Latest loss to Vancouver - a team eliminated from the playoffs and who arguably have a suspect team, perhaps a suspect head coach and General Manager.  The bigger question is, what is wrong with the Jets?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 11, 2021, 03:30:04 AM
1 and 9 in their last 10 games.  Latest loss to Vancouver - a team eliminated from the playoffs and who arguably have a suspect team, perhaps a suspect head coach and General Manager.  The bigger question is, what is wrong with the Jets?

Where would you like to start.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on May 11, 2021, 04:39:39 AM
Where would you like to start.

It's pretty clear in history that when a team falters, fails or fizzles that the head coach pays the price.  I get that but often the problem goes deeper that that all the way into management and possibly ownership.  I am not qualified to dissect the Jets' problems except to recognize the obvious.  Something has happened to this team.

Maybe, having cemented a playoff spot has caused them to lay back a bit, but I suspect there are other things at play here beginning, perhaps, with Mark Scheifele's benching last month and his anger about that.  Look, I don't know but running up a 1 and 9 record in 10 games just prior to the playofffs is not a good thing.  And it it is probably too late now, in this season, to address it.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 11, 2021, 06:11:31 AM
Injuries have been a part of our problem, as I don't think the Jet's are as deep in talent as some mite think.

Our D just isn't very good and at the trade deadline we picked up JB40.

We have a few players that have just not produced the last 10 games.

Our PP is terrible right now.

Losing NE27 was pretty big for this team.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 11, 2021, 05:09:59 PM
1 and 9 in their last 10 games.  Latest loss to Vancouver - a team eliminated from the playoffs and who arguably have a suspect team, perhaps a suspect head coach and General Manager.  The bigger question is, what is wrong with the Jets?

Leadership not stepping up enough on the ice (or in the locker room). A blue line that is a shell of its former self in terms of talent and depth. A top 6 seemingly disinterested in playing two-way hockey way too often.

A HC and GM can only do so much. I'm not saying either deserve to be excused based on how the last 10 games have gone but the players need to wear the bulk of this ugliness, IMO. However, I will say Maurice should've booted Huddy back in 2014 and recruited new assistant staff. Outside of a brief period in 2015 and the 2017-18 season/post-season, the Jets' defensive identity has been questionable at best. Imagine where they'd be if not for Hellebuyck between the pipes the last two seasons?

I feel like this organization is at a crossroads in some ways, as developmental pieces continue to mature. The off-season is going to be interesting but I think we'll be some new faces (from the pipeline) on the big squad sooner than later.

And re: last night's game, Demko had a really good night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 11, 2021, 05:48:50 PM
7pm start tonight. Would be nice to win the next to games and end the year with 30 wins.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 11, 2021, 06:18:34 PM
Just the single win in the past ten is rather sad, for what earlier we as fans felt, with a couple tweaks  ....... might battle hard for a Stanley alongside a Grey Cup
Trade deadline came & went ...... the only positive tweak occurring was weeks earlier getting PLD13.  Sadly, he is not providing much finish around the net.
Personally liked the trade a lot ........ but gee how I have envisioned so many times of late, is Laine firing in a one timer from where Scheif is positioned on the PP.

Chevy only brought in a fairly stagnate JB40 for a D group who just didn't support the forwards much. Canucks meanwhile have a D group who lead the league in points -- WOW !!
IMO, Morrissey is okay but barely above average for the ice time given. Pionk is pound for pound our #1, which is jus my opinion.
Forbort, DeMelo & now Benn have experience but will not carry a puck forward. Poolman tries very hard to move the puck by skating but is snake bitten for offensive outcome.
Stanley & Heinola are what can be expected to be our near future puck support & I believe they have very good potential.

Forwards are full of 4th liners checking a lot but their ceiling was minimal & it sure didn't get much better.   Our Stars meanwhile, are, well questionable checkers.

In a nutshell ........ love in for Chevy & PM is well over ....... it's what have you done for me now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 11, 2021, 07:52:24 PM
I don't think Chevy or Moe are going anywhere. Not right now anyways. I think the team will wait and see how thing develop early to mid season next year.

Toninato and Pionk are in the line up tonight. PS25 1000th game. I am hearing the Jet's will be vaccinated on Saturday morning. If this is true, it's an excellent move. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 12, 2021, 01:02:13 AM
Nice 1000 game ceremony for PS25. Nice that his wife and kids could join him on the ice. Nice to see the kids get a silver stick also, and loved there jean jackets.

All 4 lines playing very well tonight, but 81/55/26, have been dominate.

NP4 is a guy we really need to sign in the off season.

BL26 with 4 points.

Nice, App's gets his 11th.

Nice shutout for Helly. Not super busy but solid.

PP 0-3, need to get the PP going.




Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 12, 2021, 01:57:50 AM
Really considerate & nice touch by the Jet organization to have some wee sticks for the kids

Quite agree with the thought on how vital it is to sign Pionk

Great results for 55, 81 & 26 & congrats to the team defensive game in helping HellB get the SO.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 12, 2021, 03:21:40 AM
Hell of a win tonight! Great way to celebrate Stastny's 1000th!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 12, 2021, 06:30:01 PM
For Friday's game vs Toronto ...... going to suggest that PM sit out a bunch of players, cuz health is crucial next Wednesday.

Sit out Pionk, Morrissey & Forbort ...... dress Poolman (if good to go) with Heinola,  DeMelo with Niku & Stanley with Benn on defense.

Sit out Connors, Wheeler & Scheifle ....... dress Harkins Toninato, Vesalainen & maybe Luoto or Dano who are sitting on the Taxi Squad.
However I wouldn't mind them paper shuffling with the Moose & dressing Gustaffson
Lines for Friday could be, cuz I anticipate these will be together at puck drop for the playoffs ..... Lowry, Copp, Appleton, Perrault with Lewis & Thompson
Stastny & Dubois can maybe get Vesalainen for Friday. The 4th line could be Harkins, Toninato & hopefully Gustaffson

Sit HellB out & let Brossoit start with Comrie coming in at some point. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 12, 2021, 06:59:02 PM
For Friday's game vs Toronto ...... going to suggest that PM sit out a bunch of players, cuz health is crucial next Wednesday.

Sit out Pionk, Morrissey & Forbort ...... dress Poolman (if good to go) with Heinola,  DeMelo with Niku & Stanley with Benn on defense.

Sit out Connors, Wheeler & Scheifle ....... dress Harkins Toninato, Vesalainen & maybe Luoto or Dano who are sitting on the Taxi Squad.
However I wouldn't mind them paper shuffling with the Moose & dressing Gustaffson
Lines for Friday could be, cuz I anticipate these will be together at puck drop for the playoffs ..... Lowry, Copp, Appleton, Perrault with Lewis & Thompson
Stastny & Dubois can maybe get Vesalainen for Friday. The 4th line could be Harkins, Toninato & hopefully Gustaffson

Sit HellB out & let Brossoit start with Comrie coming in at some point. 

Mark Spector of Sportsnet reporting the Jet's/Oilers will start on Thursday may 20th. Where did you get May 19th from?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 13, 2021, 12:47:50 AM
From TSN earlier in the day ....... perhaps I missed read


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 13, 2021, 05:46:38 PM
So much for Mark Spector reporting wrongly ............ Jets start playoffs on Wednesday


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 13, 2021, 06:13:30 PM
I don't think anyone really knew until the NHL released the schedule this morning. The game starts at 8PM.

Calgary and Vancouver will also be playing there final game of the regular season that night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 13, 2021, 07:44:22 PM
Crazy happenings in the world, so why not continue with the NHL challenges to finish season & start playoffs
........ a couple teams finish season after playoffs start & also the time gap between southern teams & N. Div. in playoff schedule

Let's have the oddities continue ......... JETS win, the JETS win the Stanley Cup


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 14, 2021, 01:38:57 PM
Jet's game starts at 7 pm tonight. The only game scheduled tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 14, 2021, 08:46:30 PM
Only change is that Copp, who didn't skate yesterday or in their morning 1/2 hour, will miss.            Harkins is in & the Dmen are the same


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 15, 2021, 06:15:41 AM
Satisfying win I suppose ..... certainly a real free wheeling affair with light on the solid hits
Terrific to watch our top line producing & playing good hockey in both ends
Shaky 1st goal but strong game for HellB.  Liked how forwards came back deep to lessen rebound chances

Did Dubois &/or Stastny both leave with very minor issues ? Will Copp & Ehlers be a go Wed. ?
If Poolman is healthy does he draw in for Stanley or the less likely Benn ..... or not at all  ??

Overjoyed with great expectations vs Oilers


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 17, 2021, 06:41:17 PM
I can honestly say I didn't watch a minute of the game on Friday. Big weekend of fishing.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 18, 2021, 07:09:46 PM
Dubois had left the game in the 3rd ....... saw a replay on Sunday ----- sadly I instinctively thought of a concussion based on how slowly he was barely moving after
Now --- we hear the poor young man hasn't practiced once with the team ......... anyone heard anything definitive

Copp sounds like a go but what of Ehlers


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 19, 2021, 05:00:19 PM
Big game tonight, we will see after tonight if CH37 is enough for us to beat EDM. 

We need big games out of our vets, and hustle out of our checking lines.  Big hits on their stars to slow them down a bit, make those legs heavy...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on May 19, 2021, 05:44:59 PM
Is there an ice hockey game on tonight?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 19, 2021, 07:10:15 PM
There is a ICE hockey game on every night for awhile. But yes, the Jet's 8pm.

 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 19, 2021, 07:33:54 PM
No Dubois or Ehlers tonight. Copp back in, though.

Definitely a bit nervous.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 19, 2021, 08:10:46 PM
No Dubois or Ehlers tonight. Copp back in, though.

Definitely a bit nervous.

This is not good new. But expected.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 19, 2021, 09:22:38 PM
Is there an ice hockey game on tonight?

And you missed the Flames/Canucks game already today...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 19, 2021, 10:18:02 PM
Geez, last year Laine, Scheif & Appleton were gone quickly ....... now Ehlers & Dubois start in the unhealthy bed .......... need a HUGE surprise win


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 20, 2021, 02:40:35 AM
Solid road win for the Jet's. We had our moments but for the most part we played very good D.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on May 20, 2021, 02:57:11 AM
Logan Stanley had a good game - 8 hits, 4 blocked shots, 1 assist.
Toninato with his first career playoff goal.
Nice goal by Poolman.
Pionk and Lowry with 7 hits each.
Nice game by Bucky the birthday boy.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 20, 2021, 01:37:47 PM
This was an absolute gem of a game, perfectly coached and executed.  Bottom 6 performed, they exceeded the season high for hit before teh second period was over. 

Making skilled players hear footsteps and leaving them bruised goes a long to leveling the playing field.  These are body blow that are going to add up later in the fight...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 20, 2021, 04:34:12 PM
I have always heard that MS55 was an odd guy, but bring your goats to practice. I am sure the cleaning staff was not to happy. lol. But if we continue to win keep bring them.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 20, 2021, 05:22:52 PM
Fantastic start ...... HellB was terrific ...... an amazing amount of finished checks ....... congrats to Poolman & Toninato for their 1st goals this year

Jets had 68 Hits, which is beyond expectations but hey ...... it is playoff hockey time ...... only Scheif & Connor, no big surprise, didn't register a hit
We had 18 giveaways of which Morrissey, YIKES,  had a very poor 7.    Only 2 of our other Dmen had 1 each, while 3 forwards had 2 each


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 20, 2021, 06:29:20 PM
I wasn't happy with the lack of penalty calls. I know it's the playoff's, but come on not one penalty for the Oilers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2021, 06:33:55 PM
Statement win last night after all analysts had the Jets having no shot. Boys played pretty solid and got that first win.

Ehlers still in NC jersey; Dubois in regular jersey.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 20, 2021, 07:12:14 PM
We are a very good road team, very happy with our play last night.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 21, 2021, 01:15:50 PM
Another 8pm start tonight. I expect the Oilers to come out flying tonight. I think we will have to weather the first 10 minutes. Scoring first mite take some wind out of there sails.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 21, 2021, 08:19:44 PM
Apparently Dubois will be playing ....... that's a plus .......... Ehlers won't ---- definitely a negative

Soar High Jets & Strike the Oilfields often & Finish strong 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 22, 2021, 12:55:26 AM
Nice 1st. period by the Jet's. Need to get our PP going.

Yes, PS25. Helly was super sharp. Our team D was rock solid.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on May 22, 2021, 03:23:00 AM
Huge OT win for the Jets. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on May 22, 2021, 03:34:41 AM
Pretty crafty screen shot goal by Stastny.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 22, 2021, 05:11:23 PM
Pretty crafty screen shot goal by Stastny.

That's why you have crafty veterans around...

Amazing game, there were missed calls galore, "letting them play" does not include egregious high sticks...

CH37 was the best Connor on the ice again, and KC81 was refreshingly the second best...

Can they hold Dryspell and McJesus off the scoresheet one more game?  That would be amazing...  home crowd is going to be nuts...  they need to take those stupid tarps off and cover the seatbacks with white t-shirts...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 22, 2021, 08:38:07 PM
The Oiler are the second best road team in the NHL this year, so things aren't going to get any easier.

I don't think either goalie can play any better then they have.

The Jet's are definitely under the Oiler skin. Nurse, Kassian, and Khaira, are all out of control.

PL13 will play better with a game under his belt.

I really like Toninato. He fits in nicely on the 4th line.

I also like App's game. he play with some grit.

All we have to do, is repeat games 1 and 2, and get our PP going. Wow it really sucks right now.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 22, 2021, 09:13:41 PM
That's why you have crafty veterans around...

Amazing game, there were missed calls galore, "letting them play" does not include egregious high sticks...

CH37 was the best Connor on the ice again, and KC81 was refreshingly the second best...

Can they hold Dryspell and McJesus off the scoresheet one more game?  That would be amazing...  home crowd is going to be nuts...  they need to take those stupid tarps off and cover the seatbacks with white t-shirts...

I like our back drop, I think it's one of the best in the league. But yes, a white out of some kind would be nice. I thought they mite do like curling and sell the fans in the stands photo's


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on May 22, 2021, 11:18:46 PM
Toninato: game 1 - 1 goal, 1 shot and 5 hits in 9:18 of ice time,
              game 2 - 0 shots, 3 hits, 2 blocks in 8:34 of ice time.
Vesalainen : game 1 - 2 shots, 2 hits and 2 blocks in 15:22 ice time
Dubois: In game 2 - 0 shots, 4 hits and 1 block in 13:05 of ice time

In game two, Dubois replaced Vesalainen.
Assuming Ehlers plays in game 3, which one of Toninato, Vesalainen should play ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2021, 01:09:59 PM
6:30 start tonight, 8:45 tomorrow. Come on Jet's likes make it 3-0.

Toninato all day long.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 23, 2021, 02:59:25 PM
Tarps are white and seats are covered in white shirts or towels.

Looks kool


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 23, 2021, 04:14:41 PM
Tarps are white and seats are covered in white shirts or towels.

Looks kool

Looks like someone was listing, I take full credit for the idea ;)

That's why you have crafty veterans around...

Amazing game, there were missed calls galore, "letting them play" does not include egregious high sticks...

CH37 was the best Connor on the ice again, and KC81 was refreshingly the second best...

Can they hold Dryspell and McJesus off the scoresheet one more game?  That would be amazing...  home crowd is going to be nuts...  they need to take those stupid tarps off and cover the seatbacks with white t-shirts...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 23, 2021, 05:47:52 PM
If Ehlers plays ( haven't heard ) there will be no Toninato or Vessa in lineup unless they pull Lewis or Perrault as an example

Just read that Ehlers is in ------YAHOO !!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2021, 06:16:30 PM
Lewis or MP85 before a Tominato or Vessa, I don't think so.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 23, 2021, 11:24:25 PM
Penalties really hurts in that period. Out shot 17-7. We looked much better late in the period.

We played a great 2nd. period. 24 on the ice for all 3 Oiler goals.

A cheap, dirty penalty late in the 3rd sparks the Jet's comeback. Don't poke the bear.

NE27, Jet's MVP scores the winner. I thought that line played very well tonight.

Helly with 48 saves.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 24, 2021, 01:57:57 AM
Fantastic ........ tremendous comeback ........ HellB big & SpeeeeedyE wonderful


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on May 24, 2021, 02:21:47 AM
This team is determined to play hard.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2021, 02:42:19 PM
8;45 start time tonight. I have really enjoyed the first three games of this series but the announcer has to go. Very dry, I think would rather have Rod Black.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2021, 04:38:48 PM
Do we give Helly a rest tonight? Or do we push him to the limit, and go for the sweep.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2021, 04:43:14 PM
I really like our lines last night.

81/55/26. Very good all night.

27/13/25. Looks like 27/13 are working well together. 25 excellent on faceoffs, something 13 is working on.

9/17/22. Love this line.

85/23/11. The dirty 30's line back together and playing very well.

24 on the ice for all 4 Oiler goals, not good.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 24, 2021, 05:15:12 PM
This team is determined to play hard.

Huge character win in that gutsy comeback last night.

I still can't believe the boys are up 3-0 with a chance to send home the Oilers tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 24, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
Do we give Helly a rest tonight? Or do we push him to the limit, and go for the sweep.

Helly will have lots of time to rest, MTL/TOR is not ending soon.

Loved the effort from everyone, and LS64 is coming into his own.  That dirty submarine hit on him rallied the troops, amazing how they managed to use that to just kill the Oil.  Watching the post game interview was painful, McDavid was a pro, depressed but still a pro.  Dryspell was not.  I get it, they got eviscerated moments before, and he's still a kid, but still.  They need to watch the Bull Durham clip on interviews...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVca9MwDX8


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2021, 07:26:18 PM
My buddy telling he is nearly sold out of Jet's Gear. We better get a bigger bandwagon. Jet's fear is running wild. Wife telling me her office staff looking for anything Jet's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 24, 2021, 10:09:14 PM
JA15 out for the Oilers tonight with a 1 game suspension.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 25, 2021, 05:05:47 AM
Finally. Good over, nice win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 25, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
Didn't expect a sweep but man, it feels good to see the Jets win four straight in the playoffs. Especially after they'd been all but written off going into this series.

Now we wait to see who their next opponent will be. The team has earned some needed rest.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on May 25, 2021, 05:35:51 PM
I have no words.

...What a friggin' weekend man...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 25, 2021, 06:25:52 PM
What a shot by KFC ....... he's such a great sniper   Another bang on, steady, terrific game by HellB

Hard to express my thoughts other than ....... knew there was a big chance ..... wonderfully entertaining ....... every player performed well for these 4 Victories


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 25, 2021, 06:26:19 PM
Jets played Sat, Sunday AND Monday...  lol.

Well, thats was fun, here's hoping round two is just as fun.  I'm actually more worried about MTL winning... because that will meat that Price has gotten hot.

Still wondering what a 3rd round is going to look like for the Canadian team.  By now, all US NHL players must be fully vaccinated, as well as all tier staff. so is it an issue to let their private plane land in Canada, have them shuttle to their hotel, then to the rink, then back to their plane?  

Likewise, any Canadian team heading to the US to play, as long as they maintain their bubble, will they be allowed access to and from?

On the other hand, with no fans in the stands in Canada anyways, does it make a difference if they play at home or in a neutral site?  If Winnipeg is in the semi's, should they host in Fargo?  And not allow any fans in the stands?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on May 25, 2021, 07:20:46 PM
Nice team win, just about everyone was throwing hits - Connor had 1 and Ehlers had 3.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on May 25, 2021, 08:19:05 PM
A few weeks ago on Overdrive they where talking about Grand Forks for Jet's, and Buffalo for the Leaf's. However I believe the NHL will probably pick a location and start setting it up for which ever team becomes the King in The North.

Chevy is pretty crafty, so you never know he mite have a plan in the works. But, we haven't won anything yet. One game at a time.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 26, 2021, 01:00:33 PM
Jets played Sat, Sunday AND Monday...  lol.

No, they didn't. Game 2 was Friday. Game 3 was Sunday. Game 4 was Monday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on May 26, 2021, 08:10:54 PM
No, they didn't. Game 2 was Friday. Game 3 was Sunday. Game 4 was Monday.

Not accurate. Game 2 was Friday, Game 3 was Sunday. Game 4 was Monday. Game 4 was Tuesday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on May 26, 2021, 09:12:30 PM
Sorry everyone, the holiday confused me... yes, Sunday, Monday AND Tuesday...

Fingers crossed the brain trust can come up with a plan for Matthews/Marner as good as they had for McDavid and Dryspell.

LS64 is the next guy that needs to be locked up long term...




Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on May 27, 2021, 07:46:56 PM
NOTE: in the 4 games necessary for thee SWEEP ....... the Jets laid a solid 213 hits on the Oilers, while getting hit a modest 158 times
 
Found a heavy hitting 5 game series ..... where the Caps laid 218 hits on the Bruins while being smucked 191 times.

Plus: the Jets won 24 more faceoffs, 143 - 119, than they lost ........ if ya start with the puck more often your odds are more favorable 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on May 28, 2021, 05:37:49 PM
Not accurate. Game 2 was Friday, Game 3 was Sunday. Game 4 was Monday. Game 4 was Tuesday.

LOL ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 01, 2021, 02:21:32 AM
Looking forward to the second round series against Montreal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 01, 2021, 04:00:15 AM
Considering that both of these teams had a terrible last month of the season. This could end up to be a pretty good series.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on June 01, 2021, 04:18:45 AM
They are pretty evenly matched up I think.  Jet's are well rested....hopefully not rusty.  Winning the first game would be a huge boost to the Jets.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 01, 2021, 10:24:29 PM
Goaltending a draw.

Forward we have more scoring and more depth.

D. goes to Montreal.




Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: bluengold204 on June 02, 2021, 01:45:49 AM
Jets gonna follow suit with 500 vaccinated health care workers in the building for games 1 and 2.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 02, 2021, 03:01:23 AM
Jets gonna follow suit with 500 vaccinated health care workers in the building for games 1 and 2.

As much as I love his move by the Jet's, there will be push back. I saw a sign today at Cabela's on the back on a mini van that said my 3 year old can't play hockey, but the Jet's can. Really, and then I had a chuckle.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2021, 01:03:33 PM
There's always pushback from self-absorbed whiners blinded by their ignorance and privilege. Comparing youth sport to professional sport as though they're somehow equal is simply asinine. The checks and balances the NHL has in place alone is a major difference.

Here's hoping this small crowd at the game tonight is a sign of things heading in the right direction and we can enjoy social events like NHL and CFL games in the near future.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on June 02, 2021, 02:06:00 PM
There's always pushback from self-absorbed whiners blinded by their ignorance and privilege. Comparing youth sport to professional sport as though they're somehow equal is simply asinine. The checks and balances the NHL has in place alone is a major difference.

Here's hoping this small crowd at the game tonight is a sign of things heading in the right direction and we can enjoy social events like NHL and CFL games in the near future.

100% agree with this.

Message needs to be focused on *VACCINATED* people (and health care workers to boot- the most deserving and most likely to follow rules...and only 500 of them in a 15,000 seat building) to show everyone that if you do your civic duty, we can get back to our lives again.

Unfortunately, the message will be interpreted as "hey no fair, if there are a few exceptions then we need to discard and discredit everything and just bury our heads from the powers that be!!"


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 03, 2021, 02:25:35 AM
Not what I was hoping for. Terrible 1st. period. Losing PS25 just before the game and DD2 early in the game didn't help. MS55 probably gone for a couple of games at least for a pretty nasty hit on Evans.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on June 03, 2021, 02:29:46 AM
No Stats to start game ..... DeMelo out in first few minutes .... now Chef55 will get multiple games

Montreal certainly made the Jets look quite average. Thinking the Dmen strength for Habs was A-one

That?s all I got tonight


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on June 03, 2021, 02:36:04 AM
Scheif will get one game max.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 03, 2021, 02:50:11 AM
Pretty nasty hit. I am going to stick with 2 games, and he will have to fight one of the Montreal players.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on June 03, 2021, 03:44:34 PM
Was a clean hit....  he didnt leave the ice and wasent in stride


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: bluengold204 on June 03, 2021, 04:25:03 PM
Was a clean hit....  he didnt leave the ice and wasent in stride

Definitely not a clean hit lol.  Took about 20 strides at him, not to mention puck was already in the net.  Some angles show Schief did leave his feet too


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: New_Earth_Mud on June 03, 2021, 04:33:46 PM
Definitely not a clean hit lol.  Took about 20 strides at him, not to mention puck was already in the net.  Some angles show Schief did leave his feet too



Clean hit.... Dude needs to keep his head up. Of course he took strides at him. But going to hit him he stopped skating and did not leave the ice. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: bluengold204 on June 03, 2021, 05:05:02 PM


Clean hit.... Dude needs to keep his head up. Of course he took strides at him. But going to hit him he stopped skating and did not leave the ice. 

While considering the general rule is 5 Strides is charging and he took way more I say it is indeed charging.  And again the puck was already in the net so regardless a dirty unnecessary hit after the play. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on June 03, 2021, 11:47:16 PM
4 games. Absolutely unbelievable.

Wilson, Reeves...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 04, 2021, 01:18:43 AM
I figured 2, but 4 is to much. Stupid play by MS55.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on June 04, 2021, 01:57:34 AM
Good teams find ways to win ...... not original but PM better get the most from our gang

Yikes - 4 is tough


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: 4everalonghair on June 04, 2021, 01:09:16 PM
Wow four games was more than I expected. I fiqured two at most, but he never had any intention of playing the puck. He was going for the hit the whole time. The days of Scott Stevens hits are gone.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 04, 2021, 03:07:49 PM
It wasn't a charge. So, the penalty called was a mistake and the ensuing suspension is a mistake, too.

Leave it to Parros and the DOPS to continue ruining the game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: 4everalonghair on June 04, 2021, 05:34:29 PM
It was the textbook example of a charge!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 04, 2021, 06:14:06 PM
It was the textbook example of a charge!

What exactly was "textbook" about it? His skates didn't leave the ice prior to contact. He didn't target Evans' head and led with the shoulder to make the check.

Not sure how it qualifies as a textbook charge.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: bluengold204 on June 04, 2021, 06:24:54 PM
What exactly was "textbook" about it? His skates didn't leave the ice prior to contact. He didn't target Evans' head and led with the shoulder to make the check.

Not sure how it qualifies as a textbook charge.

The distance he travelled ?  FYI charging is defined as the following

42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player
who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A ?charge? may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.
A minor, major or a major and a game misconduct shall be imposed on a player who charges a goalkeeper while the goalkeeper is within his goal crease.
A goalkeeper is not ?fair game? just because he is outside the goal crease area. The appropriate penalty should be assessed in every case where an opposing player makes unnecessary contact with a goalkeeper. However, incidental contact, at the discretion of the Referee, will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.

https://cms.nhl.bamgrid.com/images/assets/binary/319997074/binary-file/file.pdf


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 04, 2021, 06:48:59 PM
The distance he travelled ?  FYI charging is defined as the following

42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player
who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A ?charge? may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.
A minor, major or a major and a game misconduct shall be imposed on a player who charges a goalkeeper while the goalkeeper is within his goal crease.
A goalkeeper is not ?fair game? just because he is outside the goal crease area. The appropriate penalty should be assessed in every case where an opposing player makes unnecessary contact with a goalkeeper. However, incidental contact, at the discretion of the Referee, will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.

https://cms.nhl.bamgrid.com/images/assets/binary/319997074/binary-file/file.pdf

Well, I stand corrected. I was under the impression a charge included a player's skates coming off the ice prior to contact, not necessarily the "viciousness" of the hit itself.

So, this begs a question: can any hit be interpreted as a charge? Byfuglien destroyed Mark Stone a few years back with a vicious hit but wasn't penalized for it. Seems awfully open to interpretation.

Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 05, 2021, 03:33:20 AM
Won't win to many game if we can't score. Let's hope we can find away to beat CP31 on Sunday.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 07, 2021, 01:58:58 AM
Jet's lose 2 in a row and everyone disappears. Jet's lose 3 in a row, crickets.

As I said before, you have to score to win. CP31 has been lights out for Montreal.

Too many penalties. And to many short handed goals. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on June 07, 2021, 02:45:28 AM
The loss of Scheifele is double-edged....Jets lose his skill and the spark they need to win.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 07, 2021, 01:10:04 PM
The loss of Scheifele is double-edged....Jets lose his skill and the spark they need to win.

True but they didn't have much of a spark in game 1 when he was still playing. They came out flat to start the series and it's been much of the same since. No doubt the loss of #55 is felt but this team hasn't played remotely as well compared to their first round sweep.

Offense has dried up (top 6 especially), defensive zone play stinks again, the special teams have been pretty awful. And then having to beat Price only makes matters worse.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 07, 2021, 02:27:20 PM
Well it's either win tonight, or your golfing tomorrow. I am hoping the Jet's come out with a fire under them tonight. We need an early goal, something to spark this team.

7 pm start tonight.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on June 07, 2021, 05:19:28 PM
It's not really Price himself who I'm scared of/impressed by, but they have an extremely stingy defence that makes for pretty boring hockey. Not only do you need to score on Price, you need to actually get shots on net. 20ish ain't going to do it. That's the real problem.

Our top 6 have no answers for their whole defensive scheme.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 07, 2021, 06:39:13 PM
Montreal's 4th line has been very good for them in the playoffs. They can shut a team down, play physical, and still add scoring.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: drahgon on June 07, 2021, 07:26:39 PM
^ Agreed. Corey Perry is killing the Jets again.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 07, 2021, 08:49:27 PM
Pretty disappointed with the effort from Dubois - he was allegedly a force in Columbus against Toronto in the playoffs, but has been missing in action this year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 07, 2021, 09:10:36 PM
Pretty disappointed with the effort from Dubois - he was allegedly a force in Columbus against Toronto in the playoffs, but has been missing in action this year.

A lot of guy's are missing in action.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 07, 2021, 11:52:10 PM
Nothing Helly could do on either of those goals.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on June 08, 2021, 12:08:05 AM
Dubois and "I am a first line. Centre" Kopp, have done zero.  Matter of fact they are not alone.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 08, 2021, 01:06:50 AM
Nice scoring touch by the big man, Logan Stanley ! :D
Maybe we do better with our backs against the wall ?! :P
Three Jets with six hits apiece - Poolman, Lowry and EHLERS ?  ???
Not bad for a guy with a sore shoulder.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 08, 2021, 02:04:46 AM
Montreal, the King in the North. Totally out played the Jet's tonight. Helly held us in there as long as he could.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 08, 2021, 02:13:53 AM
Well the Jets had me fooled. After the Edmonton series I thought we were contenders, but sadly we are just pretenders. :(
Maybe next year, but we've been saying that for HOW many years now ?  ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on June 08, 2021, 02:35:49 AM
Truly so humbling to watch the Habs make our beloved team look so awful

Soooooo many things went awry constantly on moving the puck quickly & with energy

HellB was our only competitor consistently


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on June 08, 2021, 03:01:43 AM
Makes me sick, embarrassed.
Logan Stanley for Mayor!
On the winning goal,
Hellebuck started the sequence by making a bad decision to pass the puck to a corner that was full of Canadiens.  Kopp, unbelieveable does not understand staying between your man and the. Goal, and who was Dubois covering? Maybe.

Refs screwed us.  Sheiffeles hit wasn't illegal, it was just textbook


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 08, 2021, 03:35:37 AM
Makes me sick, embarrassed.
Logan Stanley for Mayor!
On the winning goal,
Helebuck started the sequence by making a bad decision to pass the puck to a corner that was full of Canadiens.  Kopp, unbelieveable does not understand staying between your man and the. Goal, and who was Dubois covering? Maybe. He doesn't understand English?

Refs screwed us.  Sheiffles hit wasn't illegal, it was just textbook

 It's Copp, and Hellebuyck.

At the end of the day, the Jet's D wasn't good enough, and we had little to no offence. 16 shots just not enough. 26 giveaway's is way to many.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on June 08, 2021, 04:33:58 AM
It's Copp, and Hellebuyck.

At the end of the day, the Jet's D wasn't good enough, and we had little to no offence. 16 shots just not enough. 26 giveaway's is way to many.

Your assessment is the team is not good enough, not just the D.  The result would seem to indicate changes are necessary.  We'll see what those changes will be. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 08, 2021, 12:27:42 PM
Makes me sick, embarrassed.
Logan Stanley for Mayor!
On the winning goal,
Hellebuck started the sequence by making a bad decision to pass the puck to a corner that was full of Canadiens.  Kopp, unbelieveable does not understand staying between your man and the. Goal, and who was Dubois covering? Maybe.

Refs screwed us.  Sheiffeles hit wasn't illegal, it was just textbook

Could you just not post comments like these...? They're insufferable.

It seems like many forget this team overachieved this season.

They were predicted to struggle for a playoff spot but were in a spot for the bulk of the season. They were predicted to get blown away in the first round but then swept their opponent. Unfortunately, they came down to earth against a more sound team in the second round.

They played this second round series like they did their seven game slide. So, changes will be made but the foundation is solid. This team has competed for a post-season berth for the last few years now and there's nothing to suggest they can't next season with some tweaks.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 08, 2021, 01:28:37 PM
I agree we have a solid foundation, we need to shore up our D.  Find a RW that can play with PL13, NE27.

85, 25, 18, 23, 11, ??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 09, 2021, 03:18:03 PM
It's was nice to watch some of the other NHL teams play, and how there World Junior Players are performing. A guy like Newhook is playing well for the Ava's. I am hoping Perfetti can make the big club nest year.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 10, 2021, 05:51:59 PM
I listened to the exit interviews today. MS55 is still crying over his 4 games. Don't cry 55, you had a chance to appeal it and you didn't. Like most I also thought 4 games was to much but we don't get the chance to appeal.  Most had very good things to say about Moe. And most of players think they have a solid base. Jet's stuff put away until the fall, let's go bombers.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on June 10, 2021, 08:41:03 PM
Will the axe fall on Chevy


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 10, 2021, 09:01:47 PM
Will the axe fall on Chevy

 I doubt it. Chevy did nothing at the trade dead line to help this team. Benn was an insurance policy at best. Perfetti at #10 still not sure that was right pick, however at that time we were thinking C. All in all we have a good foundation. We need a couple of pieces to take the next step.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on June 11, 2021, 07:51:48 PM
Quite agree that Chevy failed at the deadline ....... may have tried a lot but overvaluing Forbort, DeMelo & Poolman was a big downfall
Benn was his answer over Niku, Heinola & Nogier ..... Chevy still hasn't replaced Myers let alone our coveted big Buff & how nice Chiarot, spilled milk, would have looked
Course it didn't help that the Habs stopped Pionk's mobility & Morrissey was in trouble when pressed & rarely carried the puck over center vs the Habs

Perfetti was just average at best when I saw him play in the World Jrs & recently with Team Canada's scaled down yet wonderfully successful gang.
He knows how to help a PP but his 5-5 skating & toughness is a couple years away from NHL caliber.    Congrats though, to his strong finish with the Moose. 
 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 12, 2021, 09:44:34 PM
There is a rumour the Jets may protect Demelo in the expansion draft instead of Logan Stanley.
Any idea if this is true ?  ???





Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 14, 2021, 01:14:52 PM
Will the axe fall on Chevy

Why would it? The Jets technically overachieved again this season when so many analysts had them finishing in the bottom 3 of the North Division and out of playoff contention. Hellebuyck had another MVP campaign and the GM's main responsibility in the off-season will be to tune up the blue line.

There is a rumour the Jets may protect Demelo in the expansion draft instead of Logan Stanley.
Any idea if this is true ?  ???

What's the source of this rumour? Because that would make absolutely no sense.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 14, 2021, 04:17:42 PM
Here's the article, but it was written in March.

https://thehockeywriters.com/winnipeg-jets-demelo-stanley-seattle-kraken-expansion-draft/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 14, 2021, 04:19:28 PM
Here is another article written in March with player report cards.

https://thehockeywriters.com/jets-2020-21midseason-player-report-cards/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 14, 2021, 07:50:36 PM
Neither of those are rumours; they're articles based on factual information at the time. Back then, Stanley hadn't met the requirement of games played to be eligible for exposure based on expansion draft rules*. So, Morrissey, Pionk, and DeMelo were the logical choices to be protected. Stanley wasn't part of that equation back in March because he wasn't slated to be exposed at that time.

Now that Stanley's since become eligible to be exposed*, I fully expect he'll be protected over DeMelo based on his age, talent, and especially his ceiling in terms of potential as a defenseman.

* Stanley had to play 27 games this past season to be exposed and he played 37


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 15, 2021, 12:40:34 AM
This article says the Flyers are interested in trading Nolan Patrick.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/nhl-trade-deadline-rumors-flyers-oilers-nolan-patrick-scott-laughton-sellers-latest-news/

Season   Team                    Lge   GP   G   A   Pts   PIM   +/-   GP   G   A   Pts   PIM
2013-14   Brandon Wheat Kings   WHL   3   1   0   1   0   3   9   0   0   0   2
2014-15   Brandon Wheat Kings   WHL   55   30   26   56   19   25   19   8   7   15   14
2015-16   Brandon Wheat Kings   WHL   72   41   61   102   41   51   21   13   17   30   16
2016-17   Brandon Wheat Kings   WHL   33   20   26   46   36   9   --   --   --   --   --
2017-18   Philadelphia Flyers   NHL   73   13   17   30   30   1   6   1   1   2   0
2018-19   Philadelphia Flyers   NHL   72   13   18   31   27   -8   --   --   --   --   --
2020-21   Philadelphia Flyers   NHL   52   4   5   9   20   -30               
NHL Totals      197   30   40   70   77      6   1   1   2   0

Her had some good seasons in Brandon, and a couple of decent seasons in Philly, then not so good this season.

Contract Status
Cap Hit of $925,000 to 2019-20
Cap Hit of $874,125 to 2020-21 (RFA)

However, it appears had has had some injury problems, so it might be risky to sign him, but the price might be right.

https://info.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/flyers-nolan-patrick-has-reportedly-requested-a-trade

Should we try to make a deal in case Dubois doesn't pan out ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 15, 2021, 01:20:36 PM
I'd say Dubois is the better option in terms of his two-way play and versatility, not to mention his durability. His possession metrics and overall production are better, too. Plus he's already a Jet with a year left and I'd say I like the chances of him re-signing here, too.

With a full TC and pre-season, I expect him to be better next season as he continues to build chemistry in the top 6.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on June 28, 2021, 10:23:46 PM
We made Edmonton look pretty ordinary, but floundered against Montreal.
Starting to wonder if we played badly, or if if Montreal was just that good ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on June 29, 2021, 05:19:00 PM
Maybe it was just that time for the Habs to bask in the Sun ....... while our defense were in chaos too often, scorers got cold & Scheif was out after the 1st game.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on June 30, 2021, 05:20:26 PM
Montreal had a pretty good group of players to start the season. Injuries, and CP31 not playing really caused them some problems.

Montreal got healthy, CP31 played very well, CC22, and some trade deadline moves improved there team and gave them some depth we just didn't have.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 04, 2021, 07:33:53 PM
Seth Jones would look good in a Jet's jersey.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on July 05, 2021, 10:55:14 AM
Montreal has a GM who knows what he is doing.
A coach that knows what he has and a system that fits the players.

Simply, Winnipeg does not.

Maurice is a passenger, four years of being unable to create a viable line up is proof.  Not a winner, but good gatekeeper.
Chevy similar, can't pull the trigger on character or keep good guys.

I am embarassed we couldn't figure out how to play Montreal.m the defence of The Jets looked like house league literally running all over the place.

Hasnt Luke Richardson looked good?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 06, 2021, 02:55:04 PM
Another gem by DM83.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 07, 2021, 04:12:16 AM
Time to be thinking, speculating & making some ?wild? guesses as to what the Jets are going to do
With the July 17th Kraken draft coming fast what does Chevy have to announce

Copp, Pionk & Stanley are due raises ?.. what can Chevy afford
Does Copp want $4.2M, Pionk ask for Morrissey $$ (6.2M) & does Stanley get a decent $1.5M
If Copp doesn?t sign ?  Is Appleton or Harkins on their way to Seattle on July 17th ?

If Little?s $5.2M is available, LTR, again then Jets will have approximately $26M to add 10 players
to their active roster.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 07, 2021, 02:40:41 PM
Toninato signs a 2 year deal, $750K per.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 08, 2021, 05:53:27 PM
Can't see the Jet's paying Copp any more then AL17. 3.2-3.5M per.

Love to keep App's. around.

MP85 is going to be another ? Will he price himself out of Winnipeg.

NP2 had a very good year. Hard to say what he will be asking. Don't think he's worth 6.2M at this point.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: ModAdmin on July 09, 2021, 05:13:23 AM
StatsCentre
@StatsCentre
5 years ago today, a pair of superstar names are secured with, as it turns out, quite team-favourable contracts as the @Avalanche
 sign Nathan MacKinnon to a 7-year, $44.1 million deal ($6.3M per year) while the @NHLJets
 ink Mark Scheifele to an 8-year, $49M pact ($6.75M per year)


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 15, 2021, 11:44:58 PM
It appears that we signed Dylan Demelo to a modified no trade clause (M-NTC)  in October 2020.

https://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/jets-lock-up-dependable-defenceman-demelo-for-next-four-years

It seems that he is being paid $ 3 million per season for three years.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/jets

Do players with a M-NTC clause have to be protected ?

If not, could we protect Pionk, Morrissey, and Stanley and leave Demelo exposed in the expansion draft ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 15, 2021, 11:53:33 PM
Do these reports cards seem resaonable ?

https://thehockeywriters.com/jets-2020-21midseason-player-report-cards/


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 16, 2021, 01:07:51 AM
Believe this will satisfy some Expansion rules ......... yes M-NTC players are not exempt.

https://www.nhl.com/news/seattle-kraken-2021-nhl-expansion-draft-rules-same-as-vegas-golden-knights-followed/c-302586918


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 16, 2021, 02:06:42 AM
It appears that we signed Dylan Demelo to a modified no trade clause (M-NTC)  in October 2020.

https://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/jets-lock-up-dependable-defenceman-demelo-for-next-four-years

It seems that he is being paid $ 3 million per season for three years.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/jets

Do players with a M-NTC clause have to be protected ?

If not, could we protect Pionk, Morrissey, and Stanley and leave Demelo exposed in the expansion draft ?

I would, I don't Demelo will get picked up.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 17, 2021, 05:06:12 PM
Just hours away from the protected lists to come out & I will still suggest that Stanley will be alongside Morrissey & Pionk for the 3 Dmen that the Jets protect.

*** Note: today at 2 pm Central, the NHL puts a trade freeze on till after the Kraken make their picks this Wednesday eve.
Thus ....... might we see Chevy pull the pin on a Copp move shortly ...... as I don't expect Chevy to meet a high $$ Cap hit that I am assuming Copp wants
Will Chevy try & get something for Appleton if he is to be unprotected , rather than giving him away tp the Kraken


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 17, 2021, 05:35:08 PM
Apparently. Bruce Garrioch reported on Twitter, which I do not follow, that the jets indeed are trying to trade Appleton


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 17, 2021, 10:49:27 PM
I really hope we can keep App's.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 18, 2021, 04:32:17 PM
The Jet's protect Copp and Stanley.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 18, 2021, 05:39:40 PM
Congrats to Chevy & staff to select Stanley ?? DeMelo I believe will not become a Kraken
Appleton is solid mid 6 forward who can kill penalties ?.. believe Kraken bound


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on July 18, 2021, 05:53:11 PM
WINNIPEG JETS

Available
Mason Appleton (F)   RFA 2022
Marko Dano (F)  RFA 2021
Jansen Harkins (F)  RFA 2022
Trevor Lewis (F) UFA
Skyler McKenzie (F) RFA
Mathieu Perreault (F) UFA
Paul Stastny (F)  UFA
CJ Suess (F)  UFA 2022
Nate Thompson (F)  UFA
Dominic Toninato (F) UFA 2023
Nathan Beaulieu (D) UFA 2022
Jordie Benn (D) UFA
Dylan DeMelo (D) UFA 2025 $3mil/yr
Derek Forbort (D)  UFA
Luke Green (D)  DNQ
Sami Niku (D) RFA 2022
Nelson Nogier (D) RFA 2022
Tucker Poolman (D) UFA
Mikhail Berdin (G)  RFA 2023
Laurent Brossoit (G) UFA
Eric Comrie (G)  UFA
Cole Kehler (G)  RFA

Protected
Kyle Connor (F)
Andrew Copp (F)
Pierre-Luc Dubois (F)
Nikolaj Ehlers (F)
Adam Lowry (F)
Mark Scheifele (F)
Blake Wheeler (F)
Josh Morrissey (D)
Neal Pionk (D)
Logan Stanley (D)
Connor Hellebuyck (G)


The only players even potentially taken are in bold...

Mason Appleton (F)   RFA 2022
NHL ready forward, solidly known ability

Jansen Harkins (F)  RFA 2022
NHL ready forward, with some upside remaining

Dylan DeMelo (D) UFA 2025 $3mil/yr
Top 4 D, good contract, my choice if they haven't filled up on better D elsewhere.

Sami Niku (D) RFA 2022
Upside potential

Mikhail Berdin (G)  RFA 2023
Longshot, exciting young goaler


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 19, 2021, 02:09:41 AM
This article helped explain to be why right handed defencemen are valuable.

https://triblive.com/sports/penguins-preview-series-defensemen-have-valuable-left-right-balance/

After reading this, it starts to make sense why RHD such as Pionk, Demelo, and Poolman are important.

https://www.nhl.com/jets/roster

We also have some RHD prospects on the Moose such as Kovacevic, Green, Gawanke, and Nogier, and Lundmark in Sweden.

It would be nice to hang onto Demelo, until some of the young RHDs are ready to crack the Jets roster.

It appears that Kovacevic may be the best RHD prospect on the Moose right now.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 19, 2021, 02:38:27 AM
Do Nathan Todd and Jeff Mallott have futures with the Jets /Moose ?

https://moosehockey.com/news/todd-signed-july28/

https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/jets-sign-jeff-malott-to-a-one-year-two-way-contract/c-325099668

Todd led the Moose with 32 points and Mallott led with 14 goals:

https://moosehockey.com/stats/

Perhaps if Seattle takes Appleton in the expansion draft, these guys, along with Perfetti, could get a chance to crack the Jets roster in training camp.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on July 19, 2021, 02:45:22 PM
RHD are important.  D with size and hands and heart trump that...

No one will ever fill Buff's shoes.

That said, Stanley can become a fan favorite with his play. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 19, 2021, 06:15:04 PM
If App's is there man, I hoping we give up our 1st or 2nd. round pick to keep App's. I didn't like losing JR last year when you could see he was ready to break out, and now App's has a pretty decent year and we mite lose him. Two young talented right shooting wingers, which we have a need for developed right here in our system. Loosing App's would suck.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 19, 2021, 07:25:38 PM
Losing Appleton would suck but you have to wonder if the Kraken set their sights on DeMelo.

It's a loss for the Jets either way, though.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 20, 2021, 04:49:29 PM
What if we make a couple of side deals for draft picks if they promise to take Beaulieu instead Demelo and Harkins instead of Appleton ?  ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on July 20, 2021, 06:40:26 PM
What if we make a couple of side deals for draft picks if they promise to take Beaulieu instead Demelo and Harkins instaed of Appleton ?  ???

They can only take one player... and it will be Demelo.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on July 20, 2021, 07:20:26 PM
They can only take one player... and it will be Demelo.

You think? I would think it's a no-brainer to go for Appleton


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 21, 2021, 01:40:35 AM
I am hoping they take Demelo.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on July 21, 2021, 12:49:56 PM
You think? I would think it's a no-brainer to go for Appleton

Appleton is an RFA in 2022, Demelo is on a team friendly $3mil contract until 2025. 

Appleton is a good F, with top 6 potential,  Demelo is a proven top 4 Dman.

There are not a plethora of solid Dmen out there in this draft, Demelo is is one of the top 4 available.

There are a ton of Appleton's out there, I'd even say Harkins might be a better choice from our own team... not saying I don't like Appleton, I love the kid, but from a strictly logic situation, Demelo is the obvious choice.  You build from the net out...  any goaler they get will be much happier with Demelo than Appleton.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on July 21, 2021, 01:24:27 PM
Appleton or Raushovic.

Peripheral players, who cares?  Bye bye!

Demelo is too small but tries hard.  Think Tim Watters but less tough


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on July 21, 2021, 02:12:11 PM
Appleton is an RFA in 2022, Demelo is on a team friendly $3mil contract until 2025. 

Appleton is a good F, with top 6 potential,  Demelo is a proven top 4 Dman.

There are not a plethora of solid Dmen out there in this draft, Demelo is is one of the top 4 available.

There are a ton of Appleton's out there, I'd even say Harkins might be a better choice from our own team... not saying I don't like Appleton, I love the kid, but from a strictly logic situation, Demelo is the obvious choice.  You build from the net out...  any goaler they get will be much happier with Demelo than Appleton.

Maybe, there are definitely people out there who think like you. I like Demelo as a reliable D but I guess we will see if "building from the net out" as you say is how Seattle mgmt see it when they are trying to put together a team that excites right away. They also need guys who are both grinders and contributors at the same time and who can play utility roles in wat will be a patchwork roster to start, which Appleton can be. I can see Demelo falling off the radar.

The good news is, with both Appleton and Demelo exposed and SEA only getting one, I will automatically be happy retaining the other.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 21, 2021, 06:21:38 PM
All kinds of Kraken leaks about who they have selected ........ check out SportsNet & TSN sites for updates

https://www.tsn.ca/seattle-kraken-expansion-draft-blog-1.1670707

According to these 2 sites ....... Appleton will become the choice.      Sad to see him go but Vesalainen will definitely get a big chance now with Lowry.
This would mean a much needed penalty killer has to be added or the likes of Harkins takes over

Certainly helps the Jet's Def. corps stay a bit more settled .......... however, hopefully one, at least, major Top4 addition.    Chevy please get Ristolainen from Buffalo


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on July 22, 2021, 04:33:44 PM
Appleton is a loss, no doubt, and it may come back to haunt in the future.  Not losing Demelo is huge, his contract and performance are both valuable in the cap era. 

Apparently, had Stanley been left available, he would have been taken, so I'm glad we protected him...

Looks like the Kraken have decided against the Vegas model and are going after the slow build... lots of young players with upside taken, and veterans with leadership and decent value. 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 22, 2021, 05:36:52 PM
Kraken certainly did not balance their Dmen as they chose 9 of their 12 as left shot players ...... with Rshot, A. Larsson the only lock for their top6. 

Is Poolman (UFA) a player that the Kraken might have eyes on in Free Agency


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 22, 2021, 06:00:20 PM
Perhaps we should have protected Appleton and left Dubois exposed. With PLD's $ 5 M salary and dropoff in scoring this past season, Seattle may have passed on him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on July 22, 2021, 09:20:54 PM
Perhaps we should have protected Appleton and left Dubois exposed. With PLD's $ 5 M salary and dropoff in scoring this past season, Seattle may have passed on him.

And would have taken Demelo... and we're back to being short Dmen... Appleton was an acceptable loss...


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 23, 2021, 02:51:49 AM
I sure hope we can sign Copp.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 23, 2021, 08:33:18 PM
Unfortunate that Chevy couldn't have landed Ristolainen, who is now a Flyer.  Personally wanted this player after Buff, Myers & Chiarot left


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on July 23, 2021, 10:02:54 PM
Chevaldayoff ? what he doin? A fourth year of doing nothing.
He's. Got to,go.

Who's left for the blue Lines? Hamilton and Savard?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 24, 2021, 07:30:55 PM
Like their first Draft pick at #18 ...... a decent size Center, Chaz Lucius who I believe has terrific upside, 2nd choice at #50, Nikita Chibrikov, good size, leader type winger 
....... the next 2 have me scratching my head


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on July 24, 2021, 07:54:14 PM
Sigh!....we won't see any of these guys for probably 3-4 years, in which case our window will be closed.
What a mess.

I have let hope he signs anyone in Free Agency.
If he says salary cap I'll shoot him! (Figuratively)

He always makes excuses, and shops at bargain basement.its a waste of top six forwards.

I doubt he signs Savard or Hamilton.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 24, 2021, 08:20:16 PM
NOTE: Chevy only has Morrissey & DeMelo signed ...... out of the usual 6-7 starting Dmen ----- Yikes

Neal Pionk of course is the huge need to re-sign, also Stanley to re-up would be awesome ...... then I would like Poolman re-signed
....... then everyone, no doubt, is penciling in young V. Heinola (all ready signed)

is their a Top4 add coming from Chevy ......... thinking Jets sign UFA Cody Ceci as a Rt shot Top4


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 26, 2021, 01:12:32 PM
Chevaldayoff ? what he doin? A fourth year of doing nothing.
He's. Got to,go.

How ignorant to think he's done nothing for four years.

The Chicken Little routine is annoying.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 27, 2021, 12:30:38 AM
PS25 re-signs for 1 year @ 3.75M.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 27, 2021, 02:58:45 AM
Bare with me ??. 2 draft slots for Dillon when the Caps had to dump salary ?. Booooo Chevy
Jets have 6 D now signed on Cap Space Roster with Stanley, Poolman & Pionk yet to sign

Copp is now bound to be asking & getting $4.3 at least, if Stash gets this overspending by Chevy
Jets will need 5 more fwds on Cap roster & Copp is needed

Added Little?s $$ to Cap space & today the team has $ 18,957,022 to spend on
at least 5 fwds, 3 above Dmen to sign & a backup goalie.
If Pionk gets $6.2, Copp $4.3, Stanley & Poolman $1.5 each, then that would leave Chevy only a measly $5.4 approx. to sign or bring up to 23 man roster only 4fwds & a goalie to share $5+
Guessing Niku has to go, Vesalainen & Gustafson will make starting roster


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: DM83 on July 27, 2021, 11:24:56 AM
Isn't Niko making the minimum?

Well if Montreal and Toronto sign old stars, like Perry, and Thornton, why can't the Jets.

I don't think Kopp is worth very much.
Who made more of a contribution, Perry, Spetza or Kopp?

Kopp,was a major disappointment.
I don't think he is responsible defensively, gets beat horribly in puck battles, and when thrust in the spotlight, wilts away. Similar to many of the Jets forwards, making defensive plays are few and far between, and seem like superhuman efforts, by all their forwards.

There is certainly no philosophy of being defence first.  So sure they will be fan favourites in the regular season, but that's probably all we can expect.

Does chevaldayoff have  a plan to get the kind of players we want?
Oh wait,...what type of player do we want? Younger, cheapest, happy to be here......what else?,



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 27, 2021, 04:35:22 PM
Yes Niku makes NHL chump change ...... but he is listed on the roster & can't be protected anymore on waivers ...... Chevy needs to but not likely to, get a 4th Rd pick at least

Copp easily, IMHO, offers more than Spezza & Perry ......... he just had his best offensive year, in the shortened season 

NOTE: the Caps dumped Dillon's contract but Chevy gave up 2 picks
...... Caps today sign Ovi for $9.5M & have NO goalies on their starting roster & 4 other positions open with less than $5M in cap Space
................... WHY Chevy did you give up so much
  


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_gold_84 on July 27, 2021, 07:10:40 PM
Is two second rounders really so much? It's not like the organization is thin in terms of prospect depth and Dillon does address a need in the present.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 27, 2021, 08:15:10 PM
Yes Niku makes NHL chump change ...... but he is listed on the roster & can't be protected anymore on waivers ...... Chevy needs to but not likely to, get a 4th Rd pick at least

Copp easily, IMHO, offers more than Spezza & Perry ......... he just had his best offensive year, in the shortened season 

NOTE: the Caps dumped Dillon's contract but Chevy gave up 2 picks
...... Caps today sign Ovi for $9.5M & have NO goalies on their starting roster & 4 other positions open with less than $5M in cap Space
................... WHY Chevy did you give up so much
  
exactly he likes forking over high picks. I have had enough of this old boys club.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 27, 2021, 11:14:29 PM
Now a 3rd pick for Nate Schmidt who carries a Cap hit of $5,950,000 for the next 3 years  ........ where will the $$ be coming from to pay him ???

If Chevy is to keep this guy then the Jets will be likely trading ........ my guess Morrissey or flipping Schmidt elsewhere
Otherwise there is really no $$ to sign Pionk, guessing at least $5.5M to $6.2M ...... or Copp to a $4.M - $4.3M

Who wants to play GM right now ??


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on July 28, 2021, 12:19:26 AM
Could have gotten a better player for that money. He fudnt pksy that well for vancouver tgsts why they traded him.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on July 28, 2021, 12:23:06 AM
Hes trading all his picks for average players. I don't see the strategy in that.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on July 28, 2021, 01:06:09 AM
Now a 3rd pick for Nate Schmidt who carries a Cap hit of $5,950,000 for the next 3 years  ........ where will the $$ be coming from to pay him ???

If Chevy is to keep this guy then the Jets will be likely trading ........ my guess Morrissey or flipping Schmidt elsewhere
Otherwise there is really no $$ to sign Pionk, guessing at least $5.5M to $6.2M ...... or Copp to a $4.M - $4.3M

Who wants to play GM right now ??
lord what the heck!


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 28, 2021, 03:19:26 AM
Nates cap hit is going to be a concern. I really don't think he's a 6M D-man.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 28, 2021, 03:30:43 AM
Bare with me ??. 2 draft slots for Dillon when the Caps had to dump salary ?. Booooo Chevy
Jets have 6 D now signed on Cap Space Roster with Stanley, Poolman & Pionk yet to sign

Copp is now bound to be asking & getting $4.3 at least, if Stash gets this overspending by Chevy
Jets will need 5 more fwds on Cap roster & Copp is needed

Added Little?s $$ to Cap space & today the team has $ 18,957,022 to spend on
at least 5 fwds, 3 above Dmen to sign & a backup goalie.
If Pionk gets $6.2, Copp $4.3, Stanley & Poolman $1.5 each, then that would leave Chevy only a measly $5.4 approx. to sign or bring up to 23 man roster only 4fwds & a goalie to share $5+
Guessing Niku has to go, Vesalainen & Gustafson will make starting roster


Can't see Copp getting more than 3.5M and Pionk more than 4M on a 2 year bridge deal.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: buckzumhoff on July 28, 2021, 02:02:19 PM
Vancouver got rid of a  high salary and average player.  They will probably pick up another good forward with that money


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 28, 2021, 04:32:08 PM
Yes, bridge deal might be the only way to keep both Copp & Pionk


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on July 28, 2021, 05:20:37 PM
Yeesh, we just shored up our D. This is extremely good news.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 28, 2021, 05:32:15 PM
LB gone to the Knights, 2 year, 2.325M AAV. Poolman signs with Vancouver, 4 year, 2.5M AAV.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 28, 2021, 06:59:24 PM
Lewis signed with the Flames for 800K

Nate Thompson signed with the Flyers for 800K.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 28, 2021, 07:19:04 PM
Not sure if these salary cap numbers are up to date:

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/jets

The projected cap space is listed as $7,715,355

Latest salaries for Copp, Pionk and Stanley are listed as:
-Copp 2.3 M: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/andrew-copp
-Pionk 3.15 M: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/andrew-copp
-Stanley 832.5 K: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/logan-stanley

Their current salaries total $ 6.28 M, which is under the cap space.

Does  a player have to be paid the same salary every year of a contract, or can the yearly salary increase over the life of the contract ?

For example, could we pay:
- Copp $ 2.5 M in year 1, $ 3 M in year 2, and $ 3.5 in year 3.
- Pionk $ 4 M in year 1, # $ 5 M in year 2, and $ 6 in year 3.
- Stanley $ 900 K in year 1, $ 1 M in year 2, and $ 1.1 in year 3.

That would appear to use up $ 7.4 of cap space this season and keep us under the salary cap.

If that's not an option, the following article contains suggestions for circumventing the salary cap.

https://thehockeywriters.com/8-ways-to-legally-circumvent-the-nhl-salary-cap/

Could the Jets send Dubois to the Moose and pay him his $ 5 M salary, but not have it count against the salary cap ?

This would hopefully allow us to sign Copp, Pionk and Stanley, and stay under the cap.

Also, it looks as if we still need three more forwards, and a backup goaltender.

Are Perfetti, Ves, Gus, Mallott and Toninato ready to fill those spots ?

As for a backup goalie, can Comrie or Berdin fill that role or do we need to bring in a veteran ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 29, 2021, 05:33:02 PM
in an attempt to answer  ..... from a contract there has to be an average used for the official NHL team Cap Space $$
So simply put .... if Pionk signs a 4 yr. contract for $22.Million, the team will have those 4 years showing as $5.5M per year as the Annual Average Value (AAV)
Within that contract the yearly Base salary can be modified & also any Bonus $$ set according to agreement

At minimum, teams list 21 to 22 players with the maximum game day Roster allowed at 23 with max $$ in Cap Space listed at $81.5M
Presently the Jets show the $7,715,355, you earlier mentioned plus they will use Little's contract from long term injury to get that total to just a hint over $13.M
...... but they still need to complete their Roster.  So lets guess Chevy is targeting 22 spots which breaks down to 13 fwds, 7 Dmen & the required 2 goalies
then that would, For i.e., mean that Beaulieu & Niku would be dropped off present Roster & they would need to clear waivers to go to Moose, but that would give us
space to add Stanley & Pionk, if both sign, to get us to 7 Dmen, with Heinola as the 7th listed.
Forwards are at only 8 so far ...... thus if we add Vesalainen, Gustafsson & Toninato plus Comrie as the backup goalie ...... Chevy's cap Space is at $11, 693,688 now.
However the Jets still need to sign Copp, add another forward & sign Stanley & Pionk to the Roster to  get the Jets to just 13 Fwds., 7 Dmen & the 2 goalies
With just the above estimate, per my Roster example, if Pionk only gets $5.M, Copp $4.M, Stanley $1.5.M that allows  $1,193,688 for the 13th forward
      GOOD LUCK Chevy 


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 29, 2021, 06:19:27 PM
It appears that the Little is listed under LTIR, just below the goalie category, so the LTIR seems to already included in the projected cap space of $7,715,355.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/jets

Not sure if we can afford to pay Copp, Stanley and Pionk, with the available cap space maybe only two of them.

Unless, as mentioned earlier, we send Dubois to the Moose for a 'conditioning assignment' for a few months.

If a player plays half the year in the AHL, does only half his salary count against the cap ?  ???


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on July 29, 2021, 07:10:36 PM
Once season starts the LTIR is transferred to what is available to spend thus the slightly over $13.M mentioned
No reason to think of sending Dubois to Moose ...... he has no conditioning issues & to go to Moose as a healthy player, he would go on waivers first & jets would easily lose him

Fringe players have a contract that usually designates a much, much smaller $$ amt. to pay when in minors, i.e. Heinola gets only $70,000 if with the Moose
So for sure players on the Moose do not go against $$ spent in the NHL Cap juggling of the roster


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 29, 2021, 07:18:36 PM
Forbot signs a 3 year deal with Boston for 3M AAV.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 30, 2021, 02:51:24 AM
MP85 signs a 1 year deal with Montreal for less then 1M.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 30, 2021, 03:40:15 AM
If Dubois were traded or put on waivers and claimed by another team, could we use his $ 5 M salary plus the $ 7.7 M cap space to sign Copp, Pionk and Stanley ?

Also, if we sign Pionk and Stanley, we would have six solid defencemen, Morrssey, Schmidt, Piont, Dillon, Demelo and Stanley, so could we trade or waive Beaulieu ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on July 30, 2021, 04:26:40 AM
Jet's are not trading Dubois or sending him to the Moose. Not happening.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 30, 2021, 07:46:10 PM
Okay, if we keep Dubois, here's another suggestion.

We have $ 7.7 M in cap space to sign Copp, Pionk and Stanley.

If we waive Beaulieu, we can free up $ 1.25 M in cap space, so we would have $ 8.95 M to work with.

It appears that Copp's cap hit was $ 2.28 M last season, Pionk was $ 3 M, and Stanley was $ 863 K, totaling $ 6.14 M.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/andrew-copp
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/neal-pionk
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/logan-stanley

It seems we could afford to give these three players raises totaling $ 2.8 M.

Could we try to offer $ 3.25 M to Copp match Lowry's salary, $ 1.25 M to Stanley to match Beulieu's salary, and $ 4.45 M to Pionk ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: theaardvark on July 31, 2021, 08:25:15 PM
Is the 7.7M in cap space including the 6.14 already in the Copp, Pionk and Stanley contracts?  Does it include the Little deal, which will be LTIR?

I have great faith that Chevy will get the three under contract and under the cap....


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on July 31, 2021, 10:10:43 PM
It appears that we have signed Riley Nash for a one year $ 750 K deal.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/riley-nash

This seems to have reduced the cap space from  $ 7.7 M to $6,965,355.

Is Nash possibly a replacement for Perreault ?


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on August 01, 2021, 03:51:50 PM
Lewis, Thompson, Perreault, pick one.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on August 01, 2021, 11:54:04 PM
NEWS:  Copp & Pionk are 2 of the only 17 NHL players, so far, to file for Salary Arbitration

https://www.tsn.ca/winnipeg-jets-andrew-copp-ottawa-senators-victor-mete-salary-arbitration-1.1676506


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: PloenFan on August 03, 2021, 10:03:46 PM
It appears that our cap space is now  $6,965,355

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/jets

We probably need about $ 8.5 M to sign Copp, Pionk and Stanley. ($ 3.25 M for Copp, $ 4.5 M for Pionk, and $ 1.25 M for Stanley).

However, once do we sign them, our top six defencemen would be Morrissey, Schmidt, Pionk, Dillon, Demelo and Stanley.

It seems that Demelo would no longer be a necessity, but a luxury.

As a result, could our GM be cooking up some deals to move Demelo, and perhaps Beaulieu in order to fit Copp, Pionk and Stanley under the cap ?

The only problem may be that Demelo seems to have a modified no trade cause, so it would be interesting to know what teams are on his trade and/or no-trade lists.

Perhaps the extra cap money could be used to sign some fourth liners on offence, a sixth defenceman, and a backup goaltender.



Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on August 04, 2021, 02:21:41 AM
Please don't be offended ....... but your valuation of Copp & Pionk are quite off, IMHO. 
Pionk was definitley our Dman MVP,  Copp had another career year. So in comparison to others in the league, Chevy will need to pay a min. of $9.7 - $10. to get both   


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on August 04, 2021, 03:09:08 AM
Copp had a very good first half of the season, but he really tailed off late in the season.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: blue_or_die on August 04, 2021, 12:51:15 PM
Copp had a very good first half of the season, but he really tailed off late in the season.

That's what the guy across from Copp at he arbitration table will say, anyway.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Jockitch on August 04, 2021, 02:56:31 PM
Agree that he did indeed tail off

Stanley signed a very ?friendly ? contract.
Chevy still needs to dump Niku & Beaulieu?s contract to hav a sniff at wrapping up Copp & Pionk


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on August 04, 2021, 06:10:50 PM
Copp was like a ghost in the playoff. 2A, -3. I was shocked to see that stat. Of course Montreal B slapped us and shut us down and no one scored.


Title: Re: Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2020/2021 Season
Post by: Pigskin on August 04, 2021, 07:32:21 PM
$900K for Stanley is a steal not a deal.