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Title: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 14, 2026, 04:13:51 PM
Trade Deadline is the 1st week of October. We don't usually much happening and that probably continues. I don't see the Bombers making any big deals.

OTOH, Ottawa could be a player as they shed players and SMS in preparation for 2027. I'm not sure how many of their 6 game IR players might be returning to health soon. That said, they may need to shed some players one way or another.

Calgary might be another team that will be looking towards 2027 soon if they drop another game or so.

Bombers are on a bye so we might see some newbies added to the PR the week they return or the week after. I don't think we have many players on the 6 game IR that will be able to return again this season. Maybe a couple.

I'd like to see a receiver, DB and maybe a LB added to the PR in the next couple of weeks. The status of some of our injured LB's is a concern being available for TC 2027. Potential free agency comes into play as well.

A serious search for import center candidates wouldn't hurt.

Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Tecno on September 15, 2026, 01:09:35 AM
I'd hope that griffin will return.

As for imp c, let's keep in mind this is els' first season. I think he's been very good in year 1. Sure, could be better. But the key here is improvement.

Honestly, I don't think he's any worse than KO-man, and he's half the price. And KO-man had plateaued.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 15, 2026, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: Tecno on September 15, 2026, 01:09:35 AMI'd hope that griffin will return.

As for imp c, let's keep in mind this is els' first season. I think he's been very good in year 1. Sure, could be better. But the key here is improvement.

Honestly, I don't think he's any worse than KO-man, and he's half the price. And KO-man had plateaued.

We don't know Griffin's injury status or if he'll be available to TC. That adds to the question of whether he will return or whether we'll want him to return. I'll use Schoen as the example of a risky decision based on type of injury.

It's also possible he chooses to leave for more money or a " better " team.

Elsbury will be pencilled in as a starter going into TC but there needs to be competition.  Since he'll just be in his 2nd season, he shouldn't have his spot locked up before TC.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Pete on September 15, 2026, 03:55:41 PM
No way a nonimport center has his position locked in
 It all comes down to whos available in free agency. Its likely we will have $ s freed up with Bryant unlikely to be resigned.
  We are going to need yo be creative with no first round pick and very little in the way of backup nonimport linemen
Hopes may rest on availability of Kline and Manu

Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 15, 2026, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: Pete on September 15, 2026, 03:55:41 PMNo way a nonimport center has his position locked in
 It all comes down to whos available in free agency. Its likely we will have $ s freed up with Bryant unlikely to be resigned.
  We are going to need yo be creative with no first round pick and very little in the way of backup nonimport linemen
Hopes may rest on availability of Kline and Manu



Import center but we know what you meant. We'll be trying to understand the SMS going into free agency by where we shed $$$ as a starting point. Lots of possible changes starting with QB of course.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2026, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Pete on September 15, 2026, 03:55:41 PMNo way a nonimport center has his position locked in
 It all comes down to whos available in free agency. Its likely we will have $ s freed up with Bryant unlikely to be resigned.
  We are going to need yo be creative with no first round pick and very little in the way of backup nonimport linemen
Hopes may rest on availability of Kline and Manu

In theory the 3 import O-line should be a temporary fix, but what's happened in recent years is the fix has become the cheaper option of the two, as experienced Natls. are commanding higher pay cheques. 

Nothing wrong with Elsbury when you consider this is his rookie season and the learning curve for Center is fairly steep with added responsibilities beyond blocking to worry about.  He's a mountain of a man that can hold his ground and if he he takes advice well from the likes of Neufeld and Stan he should work out alright.

The tragedy is the state of their Natl. pipeline which after a decade of good flow appears to have dried up.  Vibert is now sleeping outside of the dog house on the PR, not sure he has any kind of future left in Wpg. as they move away from the 6th man concept, but won't be too surprised if he turns up elsewhere. Never saw enough of him to ever conclude he was inadequate.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: theaardvark on September 15, 2026, 05:53:23 PM
The need for a 3 or 4 NAT oline has evaporated with the development of "ratio breakers" across the league.

So, I think the premiums paid to NAT interior oline will start to drop, and the American Oline will increase, attracting better American oline.

There will still be a premium paid to ANY NAT player, line or ratio breaker.  But the oline is no longer the sacred cow it used to be.  So, competition in camp should get even better.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Tecno on September 15, 2026, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2026, 04:58:22 PMnot sure he has any kind of future left in Wpg. as they move away from the 6th man concept

There will always be a 6th dressed. The thing we've recently shunned is dressing 7. But ya actual snaps with 6 is down because of the surfeit of TE and FB dressing.

That said, Eli still comes in 15+ times a game, including sy.

Vibert really appears to be an Eli clone. Similar size, and can snap. If Eli leaves or quits, it's totally Vibert's spot. Neither will ever be a legit starter.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2026, 06:49:16 PM
Quote from: Tecno on September 15, 2026, 06:27:44 PMThere will always be a 6th dressed. The thing we've recently shunned is dressing 7. But ya actual snaps with 6 is down because of the surfeit of TE and FB dressing.

That said, Eli still comes in 15+ times a game, including sy.

Vibert really appears to be an Eli clone. Similar size, and can snap. If Eli leaves or quits, it's totally Vibert's spot. Neither will ever be a legit starter.

Don't know if Eli will last another season, once a Natl. displaces him as the next man up, I think they'll let him go to FA rather than send him to the PR.  He's such an easy going guy he might actually accept a PR assignment just to stay where he's comfortable.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: theaardvark on September 15, 2026, 07:02:14 PM
As long as Eli is an affordable Nat backup, there is absolutely no reason to replace him.  He's a solid performer, and has one of the highest Rec/TD rates...  with Daniels there too, not a bad duo on short yardage
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2026, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on September 15, 2026, 07:02:14 PMAs long as Eli is an affordable Nat backup, there is absolutely no reason to replace him.  He's a solid performer, and has one of the highest Rec/TD rates...  with Daniels there too, not a bad duo on short yardage

Sooner or later they need to bring along Neufeld's replacement and at most they have 2-3 years to do so.  It won't be Eli, but he is currently occupying that players roster spot.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: bunker on September 15, 2026, 08:35:39 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2026, 08:25:33 PMSooner or later they need to bring along Neufeld's replacement and at most they have 2-3 years to do so.  It won't be Eli, but he is currently occupying that players roster spot.
Or maybe snag the hometown boy Vaccaro from Ottawa when his contract is up at the end of  2028.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 15, 2026, 08:57:06 PM
We're starting to see some teams shuffling PR rosters and adding new candidates today. In some cases it means deletions as position specific candidates are found.

Ottawa has already released one player and it won't be a surprise if we see more activity as they decide on IR players returning.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: DM83 on September 17, 2026, 12:20:45 AM
I think that the Bombers have a problem with Canadian scouting.  To nit be able to find any Canadian linemen out of Canadian college and worse, Americans that can play out of the thousands in the States causes me great concern.

They need a Canadian at center, and secondly at either guard position.  They need a couple of. A,Eric a Receivers and DBs .  Nit to mention a QB, who can last four quarters.

Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Tecno on September 17, 2026, 01:47:26 AM
Quote from: DM83 on September 17, 2026, 12:20:45 AMThey need a Canadian at center, and secondly at either guard position.  They need a couple of. A,Eric a Receivers and DBs

The days of being forced to overpay for mediocre NAT OL talent may be over.  At least for WFC.  The rise of the Canadian QB plus NATs at non-traditional positions is the cause.

We also may be tooling up for us starting our own NAT QB in 2-4 seasons.  And when that day comes, a 3-4 IMP OL will seem normal.

You will always get better talent for less money with an IMP OL.  It's just supply & demand.  So opt out of that rat race altogether, and think outside the box.  It also allows you more freedom come draft time because you aren't desperately tied to getting an OL in the first 2 rounds.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: blueraid on September 17, 2026, 04:19:59 PM
Vaccaro would be a nice add come Oct......I have no idea what they would want in return BUT how about Collaros and a pic ;)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 17, 2026, 04:53:24 PM
Quote from: blueraid on September 17, 2026, 04:19:59 PMVaccaro would be a nice add come Oct......I have no idea what they would want in return BUT how about Collaros and a pic ;)

Unlikely the Redblacks trade a starting Canadian. Collaros is now an injury prone QB that is a potential free agent in February so he has zero trade value. We've already given them our 1st round pick so our cupboards are bare in that sense.

I do think the Redblacks will be considering trades that will be of value for the 2027 season. What that will look like I have no idea.

You'd have to believe there will be major changes to their roster for next year. Some have already suggested they will sign Kelly in the off season in free agency.

They need a RB so the Elks could be a player but what would they get back in return potentially?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: theaardvark on September 17, 2026, 07:14:59 PM
No way the RB trade Vaccaro.  Yes, I bet he'd love to come home, and might be a FA target (Popp will sign him before FA hits), but he was the big get in the draft, and has been good.  And Kelly NEEDS protection.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Tecno on September 17, 2026, 09:42:12 PM
Vacarro has not been that good. He reminds me a bit of gray when he first started.

Starting him first year may be a mistake. But then again, maybe they had zero options.

I guess the hope is he develops quickly. The general consensus is the ceiling is high. He might be quality by the time he comes up for FA. We should have our players and coaches chat with him every OTT onfield postgame to try to sell a future in Wpg.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: RebusRankin on September 18, 2026, 01:57:11 AM
Vaccaro may just wait till he hits free agency in 2029 to come home.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: JockitchwithRich on September 19, 2026, 03:41:56 PM
The Cats are, seemingly, going no where this season
Along with the awful Redblacks, might there be a chance that Walters is banging at the doors for a Bomber addition
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 19, 2026, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: JockitchwithRich on Today at 03:41:56 PMThe Cats are, seemingly, going no where this season
Along with the awful Redblacks, might there be a chance that Walters is banging at the doors for a Bomber addition

They would be an obvious team that could be looking to make a trade. They do have some players we'd probably like but what do we have to give up that is a win win for both teams?

Ottawa may want to shed some higher SMS even though that involves talented players. Not every player will fit the go forward plan in 2027.

It's worth a phone call to both those teams to see if something is possible.

That said, I can't come up with something that specifically is a trade that works. Contract length and SMS in both directions comes into play. CFL has so many 1 year contracts so what's left besides a short term rental?

There will be only 4 games left after this weekend for most teams. Getting and incorporating a new player even a short term rental is a long shot.

Ottawa made 7 changes to their starters for today. In some cases that was due to injury. Their IR list is so long it's tough to know who might be returning shortly and / or released shortly. Everyone on the roster will be playing to win a role next year.



Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Sway on September 19, 2026, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: JockitchwithRich on Today at 03:41:56 PMThe Cats are, seemingly, going no where this season
Along with the awful Redblacks, might there be a chance that Walters is banging at the doors for a Bomber addition

I'd sure take Kenny back ..... again
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 19, 2026, 04:27:36 PM
Quote from: Sway on Today at 04:14:03 PMI'd sure take Kenny back ..... again

At this point I'd take back Wheatfall depending on the status of O.Wilson.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: theaardvark on September 19, 2026, 04:29:41 PM
Ott adds Jake Plummer to their neg list?

Trade Dru, bench Maier, and now add Plummer to the neg list?  Maybe Kelly isn't a sure things.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: blueraid on September 19, 2026, 05:55:15 PM
Kelly has suspended contract extension talks with TO recently....I would bet he's already in talks with Ottawa on the qt ...overseen by Dinwoodie  ;) As far as us making any deals ....not likely UNLESS Ham is interested in letting Kenny go....a big  :-\ on that one
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 19, 2026, 06:14:06 PM
Quote from: blueraid on Today at 05:55:15 PMKelly has suspended contract extension talks with TO recently....I would bet he's already in talks with Ottawa on the qt ...overseen by Dinwoodie  ;) As far as us making any deals ....not likely UNLESS Ham is interested in letting Kenny go....a big  :-\ on that one

Even as a short term rental I'm not sure Lawler would be a good fit. Talented yes but he's a me 1st player IMO and we don't need that.

I suppose all players are mercenaries but he's come and left twice now.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 19, 2026, 06:43:21 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on Today at 04:27:36 PMAt this point I'd take back Wheatfall depending on the status of O.Wilson.

Myron Mitchell too, both had the athletic talent and worked hard, Bombers chose to go shopping instead of investing in the athletes they had in stock.  They failed to learn from the earlier Stamps teams in the Huff era who developed great new receivers year after year only to lose them to free agency.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline and PR expansion
Post by: TBURGESS on September 19, 2026, 07:02:28 PM
Chad Kelly would make Ottawa contenders.