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Title: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Pigskin on August 16, 2026, 07:10:03 PM
Edmonton is next level right now. The Bombers are going to have to cleanup there penalties and D breakdown.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2026, 07:28:46 PM
Their defence is really good. The offence has come down to earth a little bit. They are certainly in that 2nd tier of teams behind Montreal with Saskatchewan. It will be our toughest game so far - and we've certainly been beat down by teams that were significantly worse than Edmonton already.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 16, 2026, 09:00:22 PM
Oh man, Fajardo is going to shred our secondary and look all-world Qb!!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blueforlife on August 16, 2026, 09:21:09 PM
Game will be won on the line of scrimmage.

Protect Zach and cream Cody.  Only way we have a chance.  Tall order.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 16, 2026, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: dd on August 16, 2026, 09:00:22 PMOh man, Fajardo is going to shred our secondary and look all-world Qb!!

Must get in his face early and hard!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 16, 2026, 11:01:42 PM
Ya, our pass rush is good, so that may limit the damage, however, they are weak against the run, so Rankin and Leake will have big days. Our speical teams will have to be extra special and our offense not turn the ball over, but they're scoring 30+ on us, keep having flashbacks to the BC game and if their fullback can cut us a new one, what is Rankin and Leake going to do?!?!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 16, 2026, 11:05:40 PM
Ya the problem is going to be trying to get pressure on Fajardo while being somewhat run responsible. The historical run performance against BC that broke a 60 year record might get beat two weeks later by Edmonton because Rankin and Leake are scary and it's hard to image an scenario where they don't shred us. Every week I hope JY has figured it out and every week it looks basically as bad or within the margin of error we're used to.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 16, 2026, 11:31:47 PM
I see Fajardo in his post game presser proclaiming the Elks are a great team, not a good team , but a great team. Bulletin board material that I hope we use. They are a decent team, top third in the league,  but they are beatable, just ask Montreal and Saskatchewan. That hardly makes them a 'great' team.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2026, 01:10:30 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 16, 2026, 11:05:40 PMYa the problem is going to be trying to get pressure on Fajardo while being somewhat run responsible. The historical run performance against BC that broke a 60 year record might get beat two weeks later by Edmonton because Rankin and Leake are scary and it's hard to image an scenario where they don't shred us. Every week I hope JY has figured it out and every week it looks basically as bad or within the margin of error we're used to.

The BC game was the outlier in terms of run defence over the past 6 games. Aside from that game, really the final 6 minutes of that game, the run was much improved over the first 3 games of the season.

Not that I'm optimistic. I'm not sure how we move the ball at all against Edmonton unless we get a Brady show again and get some miracles via ST and turnovers.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 17, 2026, 01:21:44 AM
Nick Anderson will shut Brady down
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 17, 2026, 01:44:46 AM
Quote from: dd on August 17, 2026, 01:21:44 AMNick Anderson will shut Brady down

If we're just running him up the gut, sure. I hope after last week we can evolve beyond that.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 17, 2026, 02:14:54 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 17, 2026, 01:44:46 AMIf we're just running him up the gut, sure. I hope after last week we can evolve beyond that.

You're right. Even against the Redblacks Brady had some pretty average rushing numbers. Basically ziltch in the second half. If he can be effective in the short passing game it can still work out. Need to figure out how to make him count when teams take away the interior run lanes, clearly.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Tecno on August 17, 2026, 02:23:49 AM
The mantra of make them one dimensional is key to beating edm. You need to take Rankin away, like all the teams have been doing since we last played edm. You must make Cody rely on the pass.

Problem is, he's a dink and dunk qb, which is our kryptonite. The only way we'll stop that is getting in lanes and/or getting to the qb quickly. It'll actually be good practice for when we face SSK.

We did a good job against Rankin last time. If we keep him under 100 then we have a chance to win.

Just make sure we don't give Cody the free run to the rail for 1st down, because he'll shred you on that every time. And he never slides. That means someone needs to stay in the flat.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: The Zipp on August 17, 2026, 02:23:08 PM
Fajardo is so strong you gotta wrap him up.  ceresna lining up on the outside will help. 

if Willie and Ceresna both have incredible games we can maybe keep it close.

as said my many people and very often - our o-line is terrible and that is going to make this a very hard game to win. 
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 17, 2026, 02:24:52 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on August 17, 2026, 02:23:08 PMas said my many people and very often - our o-line is terrible and that is going to make this a very hard game to win. 

Agreed. If I'm picking the weakest link on this team right now, it's the O-line.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: bunker on August 17, 2026, 03:01:54 PM
I'm not thrilled with our O-line but I think they've done a decent job run blocking much of the time. Some of the sacks are also not just on the O-line. Zach tends to hang on to the ball too long, and is not very mobile in the pocket. When you watch other QB's like Fajardo, Rourke or Alexander, they come under pressure also, but frequently escape it. When you watch the first 3 sacks last game, the blind side sack is not necessarily on the O-line. And the other 2 were partly related to Zach holding on to the ball, and not showing much escapability. Condell probably has a role to play somewhere in there as well. Not giving them a pass, but its a combined responsibility.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blue In BC on August 17, 2026, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 17, 2026, 01:44:46 AMIf we're just running him up the gut, sure. I hope after last week we can evolve beyond that.

When have we ever done that? Oliveria is an inside runner. Teams that choose to stop that are able to accomplish that.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2026, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: bunker on August 17, 2026, 03:01:54 PMI'm not thrilled with our O-line but I think they've done a decent job run blocking much of the time. Some of the sacks are also not just on the O-line. Zach tends to hang on to the ball too long, and is not very mobile in the pocket. When you watch other QB's like Fajardo, Rourke or Alexander, they come under pressure also, but frequently escape it. When you watch the first 3 sacks last game, the blind side sack is not necessarily on the O-line. And the other 2 were partly related to Zach holding on to the ball, and not showing much escapability. Condell probably has a role to play somewhere in there as well. Not giving them a pass, but its a combined responsibility.

Zach is very slow when caught flat footed and in the last 2-3 years he tends not to use rollout motion which kept him safe in the past, it makes him a sitting duck for anyone with momentum on their side.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blue In BC on August 17, 2026, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2026, 04:43:21 PMZach is very slow when caught flat footed and in the last 2-3 years he tends not to use rollout motion which kept him safe in the past, it makes him a sitting duck for anyone with momentum on their side.

It's very predictable. We're in 2nd and long too often and he gets sacked waiting for a receiver to get open. The OC has to take that into account in play calling. Having to punt is a better option than taking a sack. Beyond that is the risk of injury to a break out rush from the opponent.

Running for 2 yards on 1st down is a killer. Teams know it's a tendency and often force a 2nd and long.

I agree we should see more roll outs. We should also integrate Daniels into the game plan.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on August 17, 2026, 06:05:56 PM
I have zero, zilch, no faith in youngers systems this year. Fajardo, Rankin and Leake will do what the y want to do to us with minimal resistance.

No matter how well our offence does, or how well it may play, or how great Vaval plays the Edm. offence will move the ball at will against us and take any momentum we earn right back all night.....
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 17, 2026, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on August 17, 2026, 06:05:56 PMI have zero, zilch, no faith in youngers systems this year. Fajardo, Rankin and Leake will do what the y want to do to us with minimal resistance.

No matter how well our offence does, or how well it may play, or how great Vaval plays the Edm. offence will move the ball at will against us and take any momentum we earn right back all night.....

I agree. The only thing that will stop the Edmonton offense, is the Edmonton offense screwing up - fumbling the ball away or Fajardo throwing multiple picks. I just don't see that happening. Our passive D will lay back and get ripped apart all game.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2026, 06:44:30 PM
Quote from: dd on August 17, 2026, 06:34:47 PMI agree. The only thing that will stop the Edmonton offense, is the Edmonton offense screwing up - fumbling the ball away or Fajardo throwing multiple picks. I just don't see that happening. Our passive D will lay back and get ripped apart all game.

Argos did a good job of shutting down Rankin running as have other teams, he only found success later in the game as a receiver farther down field than would normally be expected.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: DM83 on August 17, 2026, 08:30:40 PM
Edmonton is good team playing a good game. They seem to be playing with intensity and an emergency that many teams don't have at this stage time will tell this is the stage we receive the second half dictate what kind of standings we're gonna have in the end, usually quarterbacks are hurt by this time and summer loss for a bit and that'll be the telling point luckily a whole bunch of guys are back from injury so that's good which provides for a good second half. It's just disappointing that the warmers haven't been any significant changes.

They're going with receivers that are poor. They have the worst receivers in at Ontario Wilson drop a new pass professional players don't drop and those Canadian guys did even play besides that one one pass that one Canadian guy got those same guys exactly when he's rolling out and then he gets screamed because none of those receivers get open. I don't think our scouting is doing very well. I can't seem to pick up some decent guys in the agency grabbed a couple guys you know from other teams and they're doing OK anyway I think it's gonna be a tough one for the boys in Edmonton.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blue In BC on August 17, 2026, 08:36:33 PM
Oliveria, Daniels, Eli, Ball and Bryant all not practising. No mention that Kramdi is practising.

Ball listed with achilles injury so that suggests he gone long term.  I'm guessing we add Stuart back to the AR.

Disappointed to hear about the other veterans not participating in practice. I have no idea what their status will be this week or this is just maintenance for several veterans.

Anyone see injuries to Daniels, Bryant or Eli?

Roulette wheel spin to pick whether we retain Hazen or flip to another PR player that doesn't see the field.

Boggles the mind.



Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Pigskin on August 17, 2026, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 17, 2026, 08:36:33 PMOliveria, Daniels, Eli, Ball and Bryant all not practising. No mention that Kramdi is practising.

Ball listed with achilles injury so that suggests he gone long term.  I'm guessing we add Stuart back to the AR.

Disappointed to hear about the other veterans not participating in practice. I have no idea what their status will be this week or this is just maintenance for several veterans.

Anyone see injuries to Daniels, Bryant or Eli?

Roulette wheel spin to pick whether we retain Hazen or flip to another PR player that doesn't see the field.

Boggles the mind.





No surprised about Ball. BO20 and Bryant are not 100%. So they will probably take a couple of days if not the rest of the week. Daniels and Eli didn't see anything during the game. Could be just a maintenance day.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: DM83 on August 17, 2026, 08:51:03 PM
Younger defence gets beaten up most games. We are the mail, not the hammer. It's pretty simple. We don't have a lot of hitters. We tackle the opponents RB after 7-8 yard games most plays. Then we have DBs, not even visible on the screen.  Fajardo will throw, flats, slants , and fumbles the ball. We might get shut out this one?
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 17, 2026, 09:05:41 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 17, 2026, 09:06:44 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Pete on August 17, 2026, 09:19:31 PM
The elks defense is almost the opposite of ours, we try to keep everything in front of us and limit gains, because of this our secondary is rarely in position to make interceptions, The Elks
are very aggressive playing much tighter, and more physical.
They try to create turnovers vs hoping the other team makes a mistake.
If we want to beat them ball security is vital as they go after the ball every play.
Its obvious especially after Brady basically beat the redblackS that Edmonton will have a game plan to plug up.the middle and spy him. Our success will be based on our online and to game plan against this. And for Zac's sake protect that blindside.
Its beyond me how on second and long we don't have a scheme to offset the inevitable blitz .Zac's pre snap reads have to get better as well


Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2026, 10:04:15 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 17, 2026, 09:19:31 PMThe elks defense is almost the opposite of ours, we try to keep everything in front of us and limit gains, because of this our secondary is rarely in position to make interceptions, The Elks
are very aggressive playing much tighter, and more physical.
They try to create turnovers vs hoping the other team makes a mistake.
If we want to beat them ball security is vital as they go after the ball every play.
Its obvious especially after Brady basically beat the redblackS that Edmonton will have a game plan to plug up.the middle and spy him. Our success will be based on our online and to game plan against this. And for Zac's sake protect that blindside.
Its beyond me how on second and long we don't have a scheme to offset the inevitable blitz .Zac's pre snap reads have to get better as well

Elks will be following Brady into the flats trying to knock down dump passes before they arrive, so they better come up with a different outlet.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: tlf on August 17, 2026, 10:47:02 PM
Cody is strong but flappable. Get to him and he gets frustrated.  He just has better receivers this year and possibly better OL so it doesn't happen often.  We do have good DL so I'd like us to get through to him early and often.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blueforlife on August 17, 2026, 11:24:56 PM
Quote from: tlf on August 17, 2026, 10:47:02 PMCody is strong but flappable. Get to him and he gets frustrated.  He just has better receivers this year and possibly better OL so it doesn't happen often.  We do have good DL so I'd like us to get through to him early and often.
Exactly how to beat him.  Get him off his rythym and he will get frustrated and become average.  Hard task but not impossible.  Will be an incredibly hard faught game.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blueforlife on August 18, 2026, 02:14:38 AM
Party
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: bunker on August 18, 2026, 02:34:16 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 17, 2026, 11:24:56 PMExactly how to beat him.  Get him off his rythym and he will get frustrated and become average.  Hard task but not impossible.  Will be an incredibly hard faught game.
Toronto had lots of pressure on him, sacked him multiple times, and for the most part took away Rankin's run game, and he looked pretty unflapable to me. At this stage of his carreer, he's a better QB than most give him credit for.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: kkc60 on August 18, 2026, 02:36:58 AM
It'd be so cool for them to play Singer but for whatever reason that will not happen
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Tecno on August 18, 2026, 02:48:01 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 17, 2026, 04:43:21 PMZach is very slow when caught flat footed and in the last 2-3 years he tends not to use rollout motion which kept him safe in the past, it makes him a sitting duck for anyone with momentum on their side.

D's took away the Zach right rollout starting last season. Watch all d's playing Zach. The guy on our right tackle always plays loose and outside and is spying the Zach rollout. They also task a lb with rushing Zach if he rolls right.

They all do this. Even OTT did it.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 04:23:24 AM
Quote from: kkc60 on August 18, 2026, 02:36:58 AMIt'd be so cool for them to play Singer but for whatever reason that will not happen

The simplest explanation is that he's not very good.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Tecno on August 18, 2026, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 04:23:24 AMThe simplest explanation is that he's not very good.

He'd have to be better than imps pokey and white. Ya, that's not happening.

Doesn't mean he isn't better than the C&C Drop Factory or Nield. But we all know even if mafia has ratio room, they won't change their desired nat-imp balance at REC.

He'll probably need an injury spot to get a look. That's something no one should be wishing for...
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Slimy Sculpin on August 18, 2026, 12:56:30 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 04:23:24 AMThe simplest explanation is that he's not very good.
If your explanation is valid, one could draw a conclusion that aspects of the Bombers' management is "not very good".
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 18, 2026, 01:36:23 PM
Quote from: Slimy Sculpin on August 18, 2026, 12:56:30 PMIf your explanation is valid, one could draw a conclusion that aspects of the Bombers' management is "not very good".

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Singer might not be good enough to supplant another depth receiver and the team hasn't done an adequate job unearthing talent.

I think most will agree that this current iteration of the Bombers is a .500 team at best. They've been treading water since last season.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: 3rdand1.5 on August 18, 2026, 02:45:44 PM
Rankin in our June 25th meeting with the Elks had a 7.1 yard average against us and ran for over 100 yards.

IMO our run defence has regressed since then, sure OTT with 10 rushing attempts including Jake Maiers attempts last week didn't exactly light us up along the ground, but that seems to be the exception as even with only giving up 27 yards last week we still average over 128 yards a game against and are firmly dead last in that category, as well as in surrendering rushing first downs.

As I have said I have zero faith in our system to stop a well balanced offence, I fear that no matter what our offence or special teams do, our defence will break.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Slimy Sculpin on August 18, 2026, 12:56:30 PMIf your explanation is valid, one could draw a conclusion that aspects of the Bombers' management is "not very good".

I think there's probably a lot of truth to that. We should have a guy good enough to be in the line up as well as another prospect on the PR.

It's looking pretty bare right now.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on August 18, 2026, 02:45:44 PMRankin in our June 25th meeting with the Elks had a 7.1 yard average against us and ran for over 100 yards.

IMO our run defence has regressed since then, sure OTT with 10 rushing attempts including Jake Maiers attempts last week didn't exactly light us up along the ground, but that seems to be the exception as even with only giving up 27 yards last week we still average over 128 yards a game against and are firmly dead last in that category, as well as in surrendering rushing first downs.

As I have said I have zero faith in our system to stop a well balanced offence, I fear that no matter what our offence or special teams do, our defence will break.

2 things: Most (pretty much all?) of Rankin's success came in the first half before he was shut down the rest of the game.

And our run defence, with the exception of the last 6 minutes of the BC game, has been far better since those first 3 weeks of the season.

Quote from: Tecno on August 18, 2026, 12:31:04 PMHe'd have to be better than imps pokey and white. Ya, that's not happening.

Doesn't mean he isn't better than the C&C Drop Factory or Nield. But we all know even if mafia has ratio room, they won't change their desired nat-imp balance at REC.

He'll probably need an injury spot to get a look. That's something no one should be wishing for...

Not sure if I agree with this. This particular ratio with 3 receivers is brand new this year. No reason to think they won't play with it if they thought they had other options.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blue In BC on August 18, 2026, 03:36:27 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 03:16:03 PM2 things: Most (pretty much all?) of Rankin's success came in the first half before he was shut down the rest of the game.

And our run defence, with the exception of the last 6 minutes of the BC game, has been far better since those first 3 weeks of the season.

Not sure if I agree with this. This particular ratio with 3 receivers is brand new this year. No reason to think they won't play with it if they thought they had other options.

They do now have ratio room after losing Griffin to injury. Hazen is not needed in particular.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 18, 2026, 03:36:27 PMThey do now have ratio room after losing Griffin to injury. Hazen is not needed in particular.

Yup. They absolutely do.

So are they just stubbornly refusing to adjust the ratio that has had to be shifted several times already, or are some players - like Singer - just not showing what they need to do to crack the line-up?

I don't know. It feels like there are so many things wrong with our offence that adding some rando receiver isn't going to change anything anyways. But just doing the same thing over and over isn't exactly inspiring either.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blueforlife on August 18, 2026, 04:36:24 PM
Singer will come on late season to give him a look.  I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2026, 05:01:18 PM
This constant whining for Singer disregards the deeper plans they made for the offence before the season even began.

#1  They wanted to move to 3 imports on the O-line after they found Elsbury who is still quite young and big enough to handle all his business plus more, he potentially could become a fixture on the O-line for many years.

#2  They wanted to employ a real TE in place of a 6th O-lineman as many other teams are now doing, which is the reason they drafted Daniels a Natl, if he was an Import switching him out with Singer occasionally would make more sense.  Like Gatkouth, Daniels is given more reps. than he's probably deserves due to his status as a 1st round draft pick, don't have a rep. count but I would estimate he's taking 50% of the reps over Cobb and MCI.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blue In BC on August 18, 2026, 05:07:26 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 03:55:47 PMYup. They absolutely do.

So are they just stubbornly refusing to adjust the ratio that has had to be shifted several times already, or are some players - like Singer - just not showing what they need to do to crack the line-up?

I don't know. It feels like there are so many things wrong with our offence that adding some rando receiver isn't going to change anything anyways. But just doing the same thing over and over isn't exactly inspiring either.

If Singer is not good enough, then they should at least be looking for a new candidate on the PR.  We do have Womack but I think he's the KR back up for Vaval. While he's a receiver, he may not be the best of the 2. We don't really know.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blue In BC on August 18, 2026, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 18, 2026, 04:36:24 PMSinger will come on late season to give him a look.  I'm ok with that.

Teams play PR players at the end of the season for a look see. It's a small sample played against other rookies that are playing in an unimportant game, much like a pre season contest.

We didn't retain a PR receiver from 2025, so it's almost a pointless exercise. I think Jenkins is the only PR holdover from 2025 left on the PR or on the roster anywhere.

Again, if he's not good enough, then find new candidates.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2026, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 18, 2026, 05:12:37 PMTeams play PR players at the end of the season for a look see. It's a small sample played against other rookies that are playing in an unimportant game, much like a pre season contest.

We didn't retain a PR receiver from 2025, so it's almost a pointless exercise. I think Jenkins is the only PR holdover from 2025 left on the PR or on the roster anywhere.

Again, if he's not good enough, then find new candidates.

See a lot of people questioning why they dumped Wheatfall in on-line discussions, short answer unlike Singer he would not likely accept a PR demotion which is a necessity with only 2 import receivers. Singer is backup to Wilson and White, when one of them is injured he will be given his opportunity to perform, but not likely before.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blueforlife on August 18, 2026, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 18, 2026, 05:12:37 PMTeams play PR players at the end of the season for a look see. It's a small sample played against other rookies that are playing in an unimportant game, much like a pre season contest.

We didn't retain a PR receiver from 2025, so it's almost a pointless exercise. I think Jenkins is the only PR holdover from 2025 left on the PR or on the roster anywhere.

Again, if he's not good enough, then find new candidates.
Disagree the club assess all players based on practice and games and will determine if he fits now and in the future.  These PR guys always find it hard to stick around and get playing time.  Singer has potential and we will see what he can do when he gets reps.  I don't see us playing any unimportant games but yes late season other clubs might.  Still pro regular season game, nothing like preseason imo.  Not pointless imo.  Each year different, each years talent different.

Yes the club will evaluate Singer vs. what in the pipeline for next year.  A dog fight for him and I wish him luck.

JAWORSKI, Matt also was brought back, who I like.

Singer was praised early but what have folks seen of him as the season has progressed? Curious on practice reports but I doubt getting too many reps.

I think PR guys should have names on a jacket or something to wear on game days and they do come out for warm up and are on the sidelines.  Helps to get to know the next gen, name to face.  I arrive an hour early and really enjoy field side view of warmup.  We sneak down to the corner and its a nice change from birds eye view of upper deck centre.  See others doing this on occasion.

Also enjoy walking by the alumni to see who is around.  Again wish they had names on them so I knew who is who but sometimes they have something on the table I think with a name?

They do list who is there with a sign.  I know some of the faces.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: LXTSN on August 18, 2026, 06:02:36 PM
I don't mind rolling with 3 NAT WR's but then we need to prioritize drafting WR's.
Having Demski has been awesome, but what if he gets hurt. Do we roll with Cobb-Clercius-Nield? It just leaves us so thin.
There are draft years with nothing good at WR but if there's another year like 2022 (Philpots and Emilus), we need to make a trade or something to move up and get a position of need.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 18, 2026, 08:28:41 PM
Quote from: LXTSN on August 18, 2026, 06:02:36 PMI don't mind rolling with 3 NAT WR's but then we need to prioritize drafting WR's.
Having Demski has been awesome, but what if he gets hurt. Do we roll with Cobb-Clercius-Nield? It just leaves us so thin.
There are draft years with nothing good at WR but if there's another year like 2022 (Philpots and Emilus), we need to make a trade or something to move up and get a position of need.

The Philpots and Emulus were drafted in 2022 and are now playing in their 5th seasons, I can't recall the last Cdn. receiver the Bombers gave that much time to develop.  If Clercius can't make more of a splash I don't think he will be back next year.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Pigskin on August 18, 2026, 08:59:36 PM
Womack might have something to say about Singer getting an AR spot. Womack has looked very at practice the last 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2026, 09:14:44 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2026, 09:15:15 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2026, 09:15:47 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 18, 2026, 09:40:45 PM
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Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Tecno on August 18, 2026, 11:39:48 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 18, 2026, 03:55:47 PMYup. They absolutely do.

So are they just stubbornly refusing to adjust the ratio that has had to be shifted several times already, or are some players - like Singer - just not showing what they need to do to crack the line-up?

It's clear mafia had decided on the ol and rec ratio in PS. May have even been decided in FA.

We all know that mafia is very inflexible on the ratio unless forced into a corner.

They'll be thinking its not just about catches, but blocking. As such they'll want to keep the expected season-finishers on the field.

Thus we can all wish and hope we get singer over a nat, but it's not likely barring injury. And even then the "other C" will get the spot first!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 18, 2026, 11:46:55 PM
I don't know what the hub bub about Singer is all about, we don't need help at reciever, we need help in our secondary!! Receivers are just fine the way they are, and we aren't pulling White or Wilson out for Singer, so that ends that.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blueforlife on August 18, 2026, 11:52:34 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on August 18, 2026, 08:59:36 PMWomack might have something to say about Singer getting an AR spot. Womack has looked very at practice the last 2-3 weeks.
That's great to hear.  Nice to have guys stepping up as never know when your name will be called.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: RebusRankin on August 19, 2026, 02:03:02 AM
Quote from: dd on August 18, 2026, 11:46:55 PMI don't know what the hub bub about Singer is all about, we don't need help at reciever, we need help in our secondary!! Receivers are just fine the way they are, and we aren't pulling White or Wilson out for Singer, so that ends that.

Fewest passing TDs in the league and the 7th ranked offense overall. Would be 8th but BLM got hurt. Are you sure its fine?
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Tecno on August 19, 2026, 02:37:32 AM
Quote from: dd on August 18, 2026, 11:46:55 PMI don't know what the hub bub about Singer is all about, we don't need help at reciever, we need help in our secondary!! Receivers are just fine the way they are, and we aren't pulling White or Wilson out for Singer, so that ends that.

Last game against the worst DBs in the league: Cobb with 0 or 1 catch for negligible yards, Nield with 1 catch for negligible yards, Corcoran zilch.  I won't pick on Pokey as he's usually quite good and clearly is not getting benched, but he too was 0 for 5 including a disgusting whiff for a much-needed TD.

Gotta hand it to White, he single-handedly made up for all those other bad RECs.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 19, 2026, 03:50:31 AM
Our #4 and #5 receivers are more for blocking and are never going to light it u, but we need more from them than zilch
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Tecno on August 19, 2026, 04:27:14 AM
Quote from: dd on August 19, 2026, 03:50:31 AMOur #4 and #5 receivers are more for blocking and are never going to light it u, but we need more from them than zilch

Bailey & Woli (4th & 5th) used to make catches.  Kept D's honest.  I don't think you can win in the CFL with guys who are getting 0, unless maybe you have Alexander as your QB.  Look at '25 GC champs: they spread the ball around to everyone that season.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 19, 2026, 04:54:04 AM
Quote from: Tecno on August 19, 2026, 04:27:14 AMBailey & Woli (4th & 5th) used to make catches.  Kept D's honest.  I don't think you can win in the CFL with guys who are getting 0, unless maybe you have Alexander as your QB.  Look at '25 GC champs: they spread the ball around to everyone that season.

You can't compare Zach to Alexander, there's a world of difference that has little to do with the receivers.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on August 19, 2026, 06:59:06 AM
Some of our receivers gotta step up if we want a chance to beat the Esks.. Our defence as usual will be horrible..
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2026, 01:09:13 PM
The problem is kind of everything. Receivers aren't getting open in space, they're not blocking each other open, Zach has little time to get the ball out and holds it too long when he does, or throws the ball too short, all of this is also a failure of scheme to minimize the flaws.

So as much as it's not just the receivers, we can't absolve them either.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Blue In BC on August 19, 2026, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2026, 01:09:13 PMThe problem is kind of everything. Receivers aren't getting open in space, they're not blocking each other open, Zach has little time to get the ball out and holds it too long when he does, or throws the ball too short, all of this is also a failure of scheme to minimize the flaws.

So as much as it's not just the receivers, we can't absolve them either.

Yes there are more than one problem. I still don't understand adding Hazen when the ratio would have allowed another import receiver. Coaches roster choices have always been a bit of what the heck is he doing.

Hazen may become a good player IDK. My point is that I'm not even sure he was on the field even on ST's. If that is the case the choice has to be questioned. At least another DL would see some reps. Ditto for another receiver.

So that will be the question again this week. Who is the extra import. If we aren't adding another receiver, I'd like to see Jaworski added since Jenkins seems to be the odd man out on the PR.

Texada as another DB wouldn't hurt either.  So there you go. # choices that seem to make more sense than Hazen at the moment.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 19, 2026, 08:19:26 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 19, 2026, 08:20:20 PM
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: gobombersgo on August 19, 2026, 08:47:48 PM
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Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: Pigskin on August 23, 2026, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: dd on August 17, 2026, 01:21:44 AMNick Anderson will shut Brady down

Anytime a RB is over 100 yards is a good day.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Edmonton Pre-Game
Post by: dd on August 23, 2026, 08:37:04 PM
Ya they shut him down the last half of the second uarter and the second half but fora while he looked unstoppable