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Title: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Jesse on August 15, 2026, 02:36:31 PM
Good:

- Brady ball baby! Get the ball in his hands, let the QB use him to escape danger, run the offence through him, good things happen. Over and over. Can't stress this enough.

- Zach getting back on the field after I thought he suffered a career ender

- Rush defence - Ottawa is the worst at rushing the ball, but we did what we needed to do.

- Perkins with a bit of a trick play! More creativity please.

- Driving for a FG in the dying seconds of the half

- Reese's interception, sweet play

- Castillo perfect

- Vaval pretty solid

Bad:

- Maier passing for 300+ again (which is his average to be fair)

- Pass blocking from our OL. Getting our guys killed out there.

- The long kick return right before the half that almost killed the vibe

- Pass coverage - still seemingly allowing QBs to drive the field at will

Ugly:

- Zach getting knocked out again. Win or lose, it feels irresponsible to let him continue to play.

- Ontaria Wilson - targeted 5 times, 0 receptions, 1 egregious drop in the endzone.

Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Blueforlife on August 15, 2026, 02:56:36 PM
Good
Brady had a whale of a game and silenced the critics.  No he isn't coming off the roster.  He is hurt and if he is this good hurt, watch out when healthy again.  As gutsy performance as you will see.  Needs the rock more.  Feed him and he cooks.
Smith did decent in a starting role
Vaval was a gem
ST, kicking and punting were choice
OL run block
White
Run D

Bad
OL pass block
D at times
Penalties
Crowd (good sale, bad turnout)
Wilson on one pass pro
Kelly on man coverage for TD (tough spot)

Ugly
Hit on Zach
Drop by Wilson
Getting burnt on D by backup FB
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: BomberFan73 on August 15, 2026, 03:15:13 PM
Good: 
Nevermind GOOD, Brady was GREAT.  Some of you guys should be ashamed for the posts on Brady lately. We win on his back.
Sergio - Love seeing this guy kick long ones, best ever

Bad:  Sure TD dropped by Wilson
OLine letting guys run right by
Secondary just letting WRs catch balls, giving too much space

Ugly: Seeing Zach crumble after that blindside hit
Watching Ott score in 2 plays & 20 seconds at the end of the half
PI at the end of the game, penalty aided drive that almost gave the game away
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Cool Spot on August 15, 2026, 03:28:39 PM
QuoteBad - Pass blocking from our OL. Getting our guys killed out there.

QuoteBad - OL pass block

QuoteBad - OLine letting guys run right by
The single most important thing the Bombers could do right now is figure out a way to upgrade that offensive line. It wouldn't solve every problem, but it would make a lot of their woes on offense less severe.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 15, 2026, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: Cool Spot on August 15, 2026, 03:28:39 PMThe single most important thing the Bombers could do right now is figure out a way to upgrade that offensive line. It wouldn't solve every problem, but it would make a lot of their woes on offense less severe.

Who specifically do you want to replace other than Stan? 
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: theaardvark on August 15, 2026, 04:19:17 PM
The ugly drop in the EZ by Wilson was one of those unfortunate "looked much worse than it was" incidents, with a deflection off his facemask being just enough to flub an easy catch.

Overall, I didn't feel worried at any time in this game, and I feel sorry for OTT and Dinwiddie.  That interception was ugly, the receiver basically batted the ball to Reese.  And the Johnston special to a wide open receiver in the EZ, well, like the panel said, "That's just sooo Ottawa"  Would have made it much closer.

ST's seemed on point, punters are really getting the drop it at the 1 game now.  Even with that, Vaval got out of the shadows of the goal posts.

Nichols out and then back in, and Collaros too, were good news.  All of the aspects seemed on point, if we take that performance up against the Esks, I think we will be OK.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 15, 2026, 04:41:39 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on August 15, 2026, 04:19:17 PMThe ugly drop in the EZ by Wilson was one of those unfortunate "looked much worse than it was" incidents, with a deflection off his facemask being just enough to flub an easy catch.

Overall, I didn't feel worried at any time in this game, and I feel sorry for OTT and Dinwiddie.  That interception was ugly, the receiver basically batted the ball to Reese.  And the Johnston special to a wide open receiver in the EZ, well, like the panel said, "That's just sooo Ottawa"  Would have made it much closer.

ST's seemed on point, punters are really getting the drop it at the 1 game now.  Even with that, Vaval got out of the shadows of the goal posts.

Nichols out and then back in, and Collaros too, were good news.  All of the aspects seemed on point, if we take that performance up against the Esks, I think we will be OK.

Agree, that is the gritty performance they need to reproduce every game if they want a chance of winning, they should be able to beat the Elks and hopefully split with the Riders, but the Als are still likely to trounce them.

I think they finally stumbled on the offence that works, but can't put so much burden on Brady, they need to share the load by adding a number of durable short targets inside between Demski, Clercius and Daniels.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: CrazyCanuck89 on August 15, 2026, 06:19:13 PM
The Ugly: O'Shea's PI challenge on Ambers

The Good: Smith at SLB

The Bad: The Bomber's Oline
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: bunker on August 15, 2026, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on August 15, 2026, 06:19:13 PMThe Ugly: O'Shea's PI challenge on Ambers

The Good: Smith at SLB

The Bad: The Bomber's Oline
On the challenge he was probably influenced by there being only about 7 minutes left in the game, but agree there was very little to suggest PI there. Should have kept his flag for later in case it was needed.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Blueforlife on August 15, 2026, 06:52:48 PM
Quote from: BomberFan73 on August 15, 2026, 03:15:13 PMGood: 
Nevermind GOOD, Brady was GREAT.  Some of you guys should be ashamed for the posts on Brady lately. We win on his back.
Sergio - Love seeing this guy kick long ones, best ever

Bad:  Sure TD dropped by Wilson
OLine letting guys run right by
Secondary just letting WRs catch balls, giving too much space

Ugly: Seeing Zach crumble after that blindside hit
Watching Ott score in 2 plays & 20 seconds at the end of the half
PI at the end of the game, penalty aided drive that almost gave the game away
Happy you said that, the Brady is washed, one dimensional, slow,should be replaced chatter, etc. was getting a little much

All he did was serve.....

Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: theaardvark on August 15, 2026, 07:21:59 PM
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on August 15, 2026, 06:19:13 PMThe Ugly: O'Shea's PI challenge on Ambers

The Good: Smith at SLB

The Bad: The Bomber's Oline

Ambers was going for the ball, but did contact the receiver early.  The fact it wasn't called on the field meant it was unlikely to be overturned as it was a gray area.

Smith at Sam lets Kramdi come back at FS.

Oline, not 100% to blame for the sacks, they needed more support from Brady and TE's on pass pro, and Zach sending Brady almost every time was a big issue.  They really opened things up for Brady.  I give them a saw off on that.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: snowboy on August 15, 2026, 07:51:12 PM
Quote from: bunker on August 15, 2026, 06:44:04 PMOn the challenge he was probably influenced by there being only about 7 minutes left in the game, but agree there was very little to suggest PI there. Should have kept his flag for later in case it was needed.

Looked like pass interference to me with a chest bump by defender just before ball sailed over his head. It was ignored to help underdog, which is a reason many are leaving the CFL.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Blueforlife on August 15, 2026, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: snowboy on August 15, 2026, 07:51:12 PMLooked like pass interference to me with a chest bump by defender just before ball sailed over his head. It was ignored to help underdog, which is a reason many are leaving the CFL.
Nah, no penalty
Nah, refs are inconsistent but not biased
CFL is doing ok, needs to attract next gen and needs new buildings in AB.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: tlf on August 15, 2026, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 15, 2026, 02:36:31 PMUgly:

- Zach getting knocked out again. Win or lose, it feels irresponsible to let him continue to play.

- Ontaria Wilson - targeted 5 times, 0 receptions, 1 egregious drop in the endzone.



The broadcast on CJOB said it seemed like he got the wind knocked out of him since he got up and was ok.. Doug Brown said he had had this happened to him while playing.

On the show after the game on OB, ZC confirmed he got the wind knocked out of him. Do you listen to it?

Don't make things out of nothing. Many athletes get the wind knocked out of them and can play normally right after.  It wasn't a big injury. I've had it happen in sports to me, you need a few minutes.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: theaardvark on August 15, 2026, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: snowboy on August 15, 2026, 07:51:12 PMLooked like pass interference to me with a chest bump by defender just before ball sailed over his head. It was ignored to help underdog, which is a reason many are leaving the CFL.

If it had been called PI on the field it would not have been overturned, IMHO.

But the defender has a right to a path to the ball, and he was purely going for the ball.  It might even have been called OPI, and not overturned.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Jesse on August 16, 2026, 12:34:52 AM
Quote from: tlf on August 15, 2026, 08:41:55 PMThe broadcast on CJOB said it seemed like he got the wind knocked out of him since he got up and was ok.. Doug Brown said he had had this happened to him while playing.

On the show after the game on OB, ZC confirmed he got the wind knocked out of him. Do you listen to it?

Don't make things out of nothing. Many athletes get the wind knocked out of them and can play normally right after.  It wasn't a big injury. I've had it happen in sports to me, you need a few minutes.

I heard Zach's interview but we've been having this conversation for years.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Blue72 on August 16, 2026, 06:39:30 AM
To help Zac out and improve the O line until we can find better players is using six O linemen. Our 4 and 5 Nat receivers are hardly used.
Until Bryant is replaced he could use that extra guy on his side.
We started 9 Nats against Ottawa and the way Wilson has been dropping the ball lately get Zac another Imp receiver to throw to
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 16, 2026, 01:43:45 PM
Quote from: Blue72 on August 16, 2026, 06:39:30 AMTo help Zac out and improve the O line until we can find better players is using six O linemen. Our 4 and 5 Nat receivers are hardly used.
Until Bryant is replaced he could use that extra guy on his side.
We started 9 Nats against Ottawa and the way Wilson has been dropping the ball lately get Zac another Imp receiver to throw to

While tempting it's usually not a good every down solution. For one, our 6th olineman is not starting quality and he'll just be a lightning rod for defensive coordinators to exploit. Pass protection can and often does end up one on one.

Secondly, even if our secondary receiving is awful, having them run around and look Canadian still requires them to be covered which is helpful. Less receivers can mean coverage times last longer which means the quarterback is holding the ball longer and that's the opposite of what you want if you're trying to solve pass protection.

What is a good idea is keeping Brady or a receiver or Daniels in to chip and block when we need and then release when it's not. We are doing this by and large.

It would help if our quarterback wasn't as slow as the Titanic or if they were more of a cerebral three step drop and throw style guy but unfortunately for us he's the former and not the latter.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Tecno on August 19, 2026, 03:15:21 AM
Quote from: bunker on August 15, 2026, 06:44:04 PMOn the challenge he was probably influenced by there being only about 7 minutes left in the game, but agree there was very little to suggest PI there. Should have kept his flag for later in case it was needed.

But did you see how instantly after we lost our challenge the flood gates were open to OTT getting every chintzy call?  It was like immediately after OTT got their long penalty-aided drive.

I agree with the normal MOS challenge paradigm: you hold it until near the end, or only when you are 100% sure you will win.  MOS didn't follow his own rules.  I knew the instant he threw the nylon that we were losing our challenge.

In the CFL you MUST hold the challenge to keep the refs honest.  Fear of being over-ruled and getting a bad "grade" keeps them honest.  When you lose that they tend to go mental.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Tecno on August 19, 2026, 03:19:33 AM
Quote from: theaardvark on August 15, 2026, 10:37:09 PMIf it had been called PI on the field it would not have been overturned, IMHO.

But the defender has a right to a path to the ball, and he was purely going for the ball.  It might even have been called OPI, and not overturned.

The rules have stipulations about "gained position".  First (b)(i) says "both teams have an equal right to the ball and are entitled to the positions they occupy"

And (b)(vii) "a player who has gained position shall not be considered to have impeded or restricted the opponent [...] if all such actions are a bona fide effort to go to and play the ball".  In this case the OTT DB did have position (which I assume means he's closer to the ball or behind the REC), and seemed to be making an effort to INT.

It happened right in front of MOS, so not sure what he thought he saw.  Pretty sure he knows these rules.  Unless he thought because of that jump the player was faking trying to catch (would he have??) and was just looking for an excuse to block where the REC needed to be.  It's an interesting thought: if he doesn't jump, would it be less "not DPI" or more "not DPI"?
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2026, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: tlf on August 15, 2026, 08:41:55 PMThe broadcast on CJOB said it seemed like he got the wind knocked out of him since he got up and was ok.. Doug Brown said he had had this happened to him while playing.

On the show after the game on OB, ZC confirmed he got the wind knocked out of him. Do you listen to it?

Don't make things out of nothing. Many athletes get the wind knocked out of them and can play normally right after.  It wasn't a big injury. I've had it happen in sports to me, you need a few minutes.
I agree with everything said here.  I thought that hit would put him back on the IR but I'm often wrong with player injuries.  Like you said lots can walk it off.  I have a hard time seeing when someone is winded from the nose bleeds.  The guys on TV pick that up pretty quick.  While we all need to be worried about Zach and his health, that hit proves he can take one still, which I didn't think was true until he got up and came back on.  He is still venerable to re-injury but we have to also remember how durable he has been, more so when he 1st came here.  With his history of injuries, he has done pretty well for us, while his last few years have been very worrisome, both for his ability to play the bulk of the games and have us be competitive.  But mostly b/c I worry about his health long term and many share that view.  You are right, when injuries occur it's critical to stick to the facts.  CJOB was very helpful in that regard.  Even Willie talked about Jake's injury this season and you knew he would be ok (few games back).  We are lucky to have CJOB and the staff there, they are world class imo, mind you always have been.  Radio sport broadcasts are special due to the detail you gain from the broadcast team.  Sometimes if we lose I turn it off to ease the pain LOL.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Blue In BC on August 19, 2026, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 19, 2026, 04:14:32 PMI agree with everything said here.  I thought that hit would put him back on the IR but I'm often wrong with player injuries.  Like you said lots can walk it off.  I have a hard time seeing when someone is winded from the nose bleeds.  The guys on TV pick that up pretty quick.  While we all need to be worried about Zach and his health, that hit proves he can take one still, which I didn't think was true until he got up and came back on.  He is still venerable to re-injury but we have to also remember how durable he has been, more so when he 1st came here.  With his history of injuries, he has done pretty well for us, while his last few years have been very worrisome, both for his ability to play the bulk of the games and have us be competitive.  But mostly b/c I worry about his health long term and many share that view.  You are right, when injuries occur it's critical to stick to the facts.  CJOB was very helpful in that regard.  Even Willie talked about Jake's injury this season and you knew he would be ok (few games back).  We are lucky to have CJOB and the staff there, they are world class imo, mind you always have been.  Radio sport broadcasts are special due to the detail you gain from the broadcast team.  Sometimes if we lose I turn it off to ease the pain LOL.

A hit in the side like that is a little like the one Brown took the previous game. There may be significant pain as opposed to injury per se. Hard to tell when it knocks you out of a game as did with Brown. Teams use precaution to protect players and that makes if for us posters to know where the line was drawn.

I wasn't sure Collaros would be able or allowed to return but he did. All that said, our OL needs to do better. He still had to miss a series in his 1st game back. That is something to be concerned about.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2026, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2026, 04:23:00 PMA hit in the side like that is a little like the one Brown took the previous game. There may be significant pain as opposed to injury per se. Hard to tell when it knocks you out of a game as did with Brown. Teams use precaution to protect players and that makes if for us posters to know where the line was drawn.

I wasn't sure Collaros would be able or allowed to return but he did. All that said, our OL needs to do better. He still had to miss a series in his 1st game back. That is something to be concerned about.
well said agree all thanks for the detail, was informative, Zach said post game would be sore but when are they not!
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Stats Junkie on August 19, 2026, 08:13:46 PM
Good - Sergio Castillo briefly set a CFL record for most 50+ yard field goals in a career.

Bad - CFL took the record away after a review

Ugly - The review involved a play that took place 4 weeks ago

Quote from: CFL Game NotesCareer 50+ Yd FGs Made Update: Last week with Sergio Castillo making a 56-yarder vs Ottawa he was shown as having a new CFL career record of 41 made 50+ yard FGs. However to be absolutely certain and to do no disservice to record holder Troy Westwood, based on video evidence provided to CFL Stats this week a review was required. It was very clear that a Castillo FG made attempt on Jul 24/26 v CGY was actually good from 49 yards and not 50 (due primarily to the angle which FG plays can be viewed).

BTW - the kick was from 49 yards away.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2026, 09:56:31 PM
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 19, 2026, 08:13:46 PMGood - Sergio Castillo briefly set a CFL record for most 50+ yard field goals in a career.

Bad - CFL took the record away after a review

Ugly - The review involved a play that took place 4 weeks ago

BTW - the kick was from 49 yards away.

I'm fine with them changing it to reflect and accurate stat/record, but it's wierd that it was looked at.
Title: Re: The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Post by: Tecno on August 19, 2026, 10:44:33 PM
Irrelevant anyhow, he'll probably get the next 50 yarder in a couple of days.