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Title: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on August 04, 2026, 11:20:01 PM
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Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on August 04, 2026, 11:20:12 PM
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Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on August 04, 2026, 11:20:48 PM
Nathan Rourke, four other starters officially return for B.C. Lions against Hamilton

https://3downnation.com/2026/08/07/nathan-rourke-four-other-starters-officially-return-for-b-c-lions-against-hamilton/
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on August 04, 2026, 11:21:05 PM
First-round CFL draft pick Jonathan Denis to make first start for Hamilton Tiger-Cats

https://3downnation.com/2026/08/07/first-round-cfl-draft-pick-jonathan-denis-to-make-first-start-for-hamilton-tiger-cats/
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on August 07, 2026, 10:03:42 PM
depth charts posted
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 08, 2026, 11:45:26 PM
Be real nice to see BC Sucks turn out again.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 08, 2026, 11:48:47 PM
Frost looks better than Dru Brown already.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Pete on August 08, 2026, 11:51:56 PM
hope OShea is taking notes, 3rd and 2 deepin bc zone, and they get the first down and not settle for fg
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 08, 2026, 11:52:05 PM
Milanovich actually plays it right going for it on 3rd and short deep VS stupid MOS kicking 3 pointers. There is a real HC who believes in his offence.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 08, 2026, 11:53:03 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2026, 11:51:56 PMhope OShea is taking notes, 3rd and 2 deepin bc zone, and they get the first down and not settle for fg
I lookie here it pays off with a TD from Frost. Well done Tabbies.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Pete on August 08, 2026, 11:53:19 PM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 08, 2026, 11:48:47 PMFrost looks better than Dru Brown already.
yeah but they are letting Frost play to his strengths and not handcuffing him. A better oline also helps
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Pete on August 08, 2026, 11:54:28 PM
coaching make a difference
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 08, 2026, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2026, 11:53:19 PMyeah but they are letting Frost play to his strengths and not handcuffing him. A better oline also helps
agreed
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Tecno on August 09, 2026, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 08, 2026, 11:51:56 PMhope OShea is taking notes, 3rd and 2 deepin bc zone, and they get the first down and not settle for fg

3rd & full 2 was foolhardy, especially when your SY guy is stinky Dolegala!!  They got it only by a hair, and I think the spot was generous.

Killam didn't go for it on even 3rd & 1 in the earlier game -- so not all coaches go for it.  However, that example was just dumb because 1 is a gimmee.  2 is not.

The main thing is whether you think you are the better team.  If you're vastly inferior and not likely to win, like HAM, then you will often take more risks.  Because if you play it straight, you won't win.  So yes, HAM going for 3rd & 2 makes more sense... and likewise Killam not going for it is stupid.

As for MOS -- since we are a total butt team, we should be going for 3rd & everything short of 2.5Y.  Because if we don't, we ain't winning.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Tecno on August 09, 2026, 12:27:41 PM
Oh look at that, BC's D is vulnerable to the deep shot!  Why on earth we were limiting Dru & Elgs to 15Y is beyond me.  We likely would have had success chucking a few deep ones, and it would have helped loosen up the short game.

Frost given more leash than Dru.  LOL.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: TBURGESS on August 09, 2026, 03:44:49 PM
Dru Brown -  20+ Yd Depth Pass Attempts:
Att Com Pct   Int TD Yds 
18  3     16.7 4     0   95

He's had more picks than completions throwing deep. 

Hope that answers your question.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Tecno on August 10, 2026, 03:55:06 AM
Quote from: TBURGESS on August 09, 2026, 03:44:49 PMHe's had more picks than completions throwing deep.

Hope that answers your question.

Ok, but how much of that is predictable scheme, and Dru staring down the play / telegraphing, and underthrowing?  Doesn't mean we still can't attack over top somehow.

And if it's truly hopeless, why did we tinkle away 2 1RDPs?
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Tecno on August 10, 2026, 03:58:08 AM
Well this game went about as expected.  Though Rourke was really rusty and stinky -- like worse than Dru levels of bad.  Luckily Frost was worse.

I think it doubles our embarrassment from last week as this really isn't a good BC team.

Look at how HAM contained Horvath!  And man, look at that HAM DL shedding blocks to make RB tackles at LoS!  Why can't anyone (even Ceresna) do that on our team?  Argh!  And when the DL whiffs McManis would destroy anyone within 25Y.  Why don't our LBers do that rather than run up to the holes to be held by OL??

Is it paper bag time yet?
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Pigskin on August 10, 2026, 04:22:50 AM
Quote from: Tecno on August 10, 2026, 03:55:06 AMOk, but how much of that is predictable scheme, and Dru staring down the play / telegraphing, and underthrowing?  Doesn't mean we still can't attack over top somehow.

And if it's truly hopeless, why did we tinkle away 2 1RDPs?

I don't think we trade 2 1RDPs for Brownie.

We received Brownie and Ottawa's 2RDP for 2027.

Ottawa received our 1RDP in 2027 and our 2RDP in 2028. Ottawa also has our 2RDP in in 2027 due to a trade this past April. So, in 2027 we will probably pick 10th, and then not again till the middle of the 3rd. round.   
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: TBURGESS on August 10, 2026, 04:23:30 AM
Rourke wasn't as bad as the stats make it look. He had 5 drops in the first half and another 2 or 3 in the second, one of which cost him a pick. 
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Tecno on August 10, 2026, 07:11:00 AM
Quote from: Pigskin on August 10, 2026, 04:22:50 AMI don't think we trade 2 1RDPs for Brownie.

We received Brownie and Ottawa's 2RDP for 2027.

Ottawa received our 1RDP in 2027 and our 2RDP in 2028. Ottawa also has our 2RDP in in 2027 due to a trade this past April. So, in 2027 we will probably pick 10th, and then not again till the middle of the 3rd. round.

Weird... what was reported here originally, and discussed to death, was that OTT gets our '27 and '28 1RDP ('28 being conditional).  But going back to the source material it appears you are correct.  It's a 2RDP in '28.  Not sure how this was gotten so wrong on the forum.  >:(

'28 being 2R is MUCH less bad than a 1RDP.  That eases the sting a little bit, that's for sure.

As for the conditional part, no one knows the conditions.  We may have already met those conditions by having Dru start 3 games in '26.  Or maybe it's something like we must re-sign him in '27 (which I probably will hope we DON'T do).

Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Tecno on August 10, 2026, 07:13:21 AM
Quote from: TBURGESS on August 10, 2026, 04:23:30 AMRourke wasn't as bad as the stats make it look. He had 5 drops in the first half and another 2 or 3 in the second, one of which cost him a pick.

Ya, but when it's 2-3 RECs "dropping", not just 1, then sometimes (not always) you still have to look at the QB.  It might mean Rourke isn't placing the ball correctly, or putting way too much heat for the class of REC, or otherwise lacking "touch".

McInnis is prone to dropsies, but that doesn't explain Hatcher and Jermaine and maybe that Poissant kid's whoopsies.  Like a few other QBs this week, Rourke was chucking a lot of them too high.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Tecno on August 10, 2026, 07:31:18 AM
Why wouldn't HAM take 1 more shot with 6s left?  The whole world knows Leggs blows a 57 yarder.  A quick hitter pass gets them to maybe a 52Y FG, which is more like something Leggs can actually do.  It's simple math.  10% chance of 57, or 50% chance of a quick hitter + 50% chance of 52Y FG = 25%.  I'd go with the quick hitter.

Every team should have a couple of 3-5s short passes in their quiver!

Like the Killam mistake into halftime in the other game, I wonder what these HC's are thinking.
Title: Re: GDT Ham at BC, Sat Aug 8, 6:00PM
Post by: Jesse on August 10, 2026, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on August 10, 2026, 04:23:30 AMRourke wasn't as bad as the stats make it look. He had 5 drops in the first half and another 2 or 3 in the second, one of which cost him a pick.

I thought Rourke looked really good actually. I never looked at the stats.