We can't airlift new personnel in for next game, but what changes would you be making to our current lineup, I d start with the following
#1- Collaros needs to come back and run our offense
#2- we need Jones back at MLB, Wilson is gone
#3- we need a safety
#4 - Broxton in/Bryant out
Jake Kelly was the only one who hit anyone on defense last game and it's unlikely he was responsible for a lot of the rushing yards given up. JY sucks but his run defense isn't so hopeless he's counting on the safety to stop the rush most downs. And we gave up basically nothing through the air except for the usual gifts from Deatrick Nichols.
We need a half back more than a safety at the moment. We simply can't let Nichols "Jake Thomas " his way through this season. It's too expensive and too obvious.
Veteran cut down guarantees are rapidly coming into play. Our next game is game 9. So changes during the bye would be appropriate if we plan to release some of those players. From a PR point of view I could live with adding them to the 6 game IR ( if they agree ) to guarantee their pay off the SMS charge.
I wonder what Vaval in at CB would look like. He's a talented guy.
I like what Smith brings to the defence. Have him at WIL/MLB, bench Wilson.
Defence needs to stay in a base package more and eliminate the constant substitution packages which have to be contributing to all the missed coverages.
Hard to know what to do on offence without knowing who's going to be healthy. You hope that Zach and Broxton are healthy and that Zach can do something with Condell's offence, but the whole offensive scheme looks like it needs to be thrown in the garbage.
All seems futile without scheme changes.
That said, Peterson needs to play so we can run more. Easier to block for the run and it keeps the QB healthier.
1. Condell should think about the play he wants to call, and then just do the opposite
2. We should take a portion of our defensive gameplan and add a component that possibly focuses on not letting the other team run 377 yards on them
3. Broxton at LT
4. Zach
5. 13th and 14th player added to the field to give a 7 man oline so that nobody touches Zach's neck
6. Give O'Shea a pair
Quote from: dd on July 31, 2026, 03:08:57 PMWe can't airlift new personnel in for next game, but what changes would you be making to our current lineup, I d start with the following
#1- Collaros needs to come back and run our offense
#2- we need Jones back at MLB, Wilson is gone
#3- we need a safety
#4 - Broxton in/Bryant out
If the Bombers can only win with Zach (which I disagree with, I don't think he's winning the last game) then the Bombers are in massive trouble in 2027!
Zach is not the saviour, and the Bombers brought in Brown for exactly this situation.
Either the Bombers overestimated Brown, or their plays and execution stink...and likely both.
Quote from: Donny C on July 31, 2026, 10:14:19 PMZach is not the saviour, and the Bombers brought in Brown for exactly this situation.
But Zach has the full book. Dru was given maybe 20% of the book last game. Absolutely nothing over top. He was given even less than he got vs CGY! Because he's an INT machine -- just like he was in OTT sometimes.
Just having the whole book opens up the whole game. It opens up the run. Opens up the short pass. Opens up the zone hole sits. And allows us to take the shots.
The fact that week to week Dru's book moved BACKWARDS is very telling.
Anyone who says Zach wouldn't win that game vs BC is, I hate to say it, nuts. We'd convert at least half of those ones we FG'd on, and we'd have more hope at the end because Zach wouldn't take that hit, he'd slide.
Wilson stays on but yes play Smith more.
Bryant is aging but must play.
Hard no on Peterson.
Play calling is terrible and this needs a major change.
Zach in only if 110%.
Signing a safety would be good (vet). Next to impossible.
Something major must change on how we stop the run.
Some great points and debate here.
To suggested Nichols is this years Jake Thomas doesn't show any respect. Yes Nichols is struggling but no need to be like that.
Rotating on D should remain imo.
Vaval on D isn't a good idea, he is too valuable to play both positions. He is decent on D. Emergency replacement.
MOS and all the coaches must adjust.
Quote from: Tecno on August 01, 2026, 07:00:05 AMBut Zach has the full book. Dru was given maybe 20% of the book last game. Absolutely nothing over top. He was given even less than he got vs CGY! Because he's an INT machine -- just like he was in OTT sometimes.
Just having the whole book opens up the whole game. It opens up the run. Opens up the short pass. Opens up the zone hole sits. And allows us to take the shots.
The fact that week to week Dru's book moved BACKWARDS is very telling.
Anyone who says Zach wouldn't win that game vs BC is, I hate to say it, nuts. We'd convert at least half of those ones we FG'd on, and we'd have more hope at the end because Zach wouldn't take that hit, he'd slide.
Was Brown's playbook actually only 20%? I could see that being the case game 1 back, but they have had to install much more since then, especially since he ran Condell's O in Ottawa.
Was the "nothing over the top" a scheme issue, or a Dru issue. Guy threw 4 picks last game, and had a Pick completion % of only 45% (meaning he had 5 picks dropped). Was his hesitance to throw "over the top" related to scheme or fear?
If they actually schemed away from it, and cut his legs out (his big complaint about getting demoted in Ott was that he had a better deep ball than Maier), that's bad. Shows a lack of confidence, which then gets him to question himself.
If it was fear, then what is he doing under centre?
BC abandoned Price after one bad game. Will he be back? Rourke it the #1, and Salter just sauntered his way past Price. Have to hand it to Buck, but I guess 1-5 makes that decision easier. 4-3, its hard to make the change to an unknown in Perkins.
But with 2 beatdowns in a row by teams behind us in the division, I really hope either Zach is back, Elgersma steps up, or they give Perkins his Salter shot.
Dru, especially hobbled, cannot start the next game.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 01, 2026, 02:54:35 PMWas Brown's playbook actually only 20%? I could see that being the case game 1 back, but they have had to install much more since then, especially since he ran Condell's O in Ottawa.
Was the "nothing over the top" a scheme issue, or a Dru issue. Guy threw 4 picks last game, and had a Pick completion % of only 45% (meaning he had 5 picks dropped). Was his hesitance to throw "over the top" related to scheme or fear?
If they actually schemed away from it, and cut his legs out (his big complaint about getting demoted in Ott was that he had a better deep ball than Maier), that's bad. Shows a lack of confidence, which then gets him to question himself.
If it was fear, then what is he doing under centre?
BC abandoned Price after one bad game. Will he be back? Rourke it the #1, and Salter just sauntered his way past Price. Have to hand it to Buck, but I guess 1-5 makes that decision easier. 4-3, its hard to make the change to an unknown in Perkins.
But with 2 beatdowns in a row by teams behind us in the division, I really hope either Zach is back, Elgersma steps up, or they give Perkins his Salter shot.
Dru, especially hobbled, cannot start the next game.
The lack of shots was a big issue 100%. Either took it away, receivers were not open or not confident on Brown. Likely a combo platter. A real good take here.
I believe our success on O will come only if three things happen.
1. OL healthy and figures it out
2. Brady cooks
3. Zach slings nasty med to deep
Bombs and Bbb its our only hope. Come on hogs! One more year lol.
I am a strong believer in trend analysis (hence my doctoral dissertation) and the trend line for Bomber personnel and related has trended downward for 3 years at least IMHO. The 2026 talent pool is just not good enough to compete effectively regardless of who you plug and play. And this is not a new issue. IMHO it has been going on for 3 years or so. Too many older veterans past their best before dates and a lack of solid talent bought in to supplement or grow the talent pool. I believe from a top management perspective (Miller and Walters) we are good, however from there on down not sure if changes are needed. Will not happen this year but if Miller wants sold out stadiums in 2027 he will probably need to make some changes within the coaching and scouting ranks.
For 2026 I believe all we will be able to do is make minor cosmetic changes etc. Just my opinion from the outside looking in.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 01, 2026, 02:36:14 PMWilson stays on but yes play Smith more.
Bryant is aging but must play.
Hard no on Peterson.
Play calling is terrible and this needs a major change.
Zach in only if 110%.
Signing a safety would be good (vet). Next to impossible.
Something major must change on how we stop the run.
Some great points and debate here.
To suggested Nichols is this years Jake Thomas doesn't show any respect. Yes Nichols is struggling but no need to be like that.
Rotating on D should remain imo.
Vaval on D isn't a good idea, he is too valuable to play both positions. He is decent on D. Emergency replacement.
MOS and all the coaches must adjust.
Smith is improving but I did notice he got caught inside on Salter's 1st big run outside. It may not have been his assignment but then a couple of other players missed tackles as well. He's made other what appears to be errors but it's to be expected with just starting to get more reps.
Quit defending K. Wilson. He was a liability last year and that continues this year. You suggest something major to change on the ability to stop the run but decline all the comments about K. Wilson.
I don't know if Vaval is a better option at DB than Moxey. We have Womack as a back up returner and receiver. Vaval could still also be returning kicks.
We also have Jackson who appears to be a SAM or DHB option.
I think the defensive strategy of 10 yards off the ball is hurting the secondary. Nichols didn't forget how to play and often is covering a top receiver.
It's a consideration but we don't know if it's a good one since we don't see every rep in practice. Our defence is more of an issue than any possible " damage " to our return game.
Other teams have other RB's to use in different situations on their AR. That's something we lack. In the red zone on 2nd and 3 or 4 we give it to Oliveria and he gets stuffed. Defences know what to expect.
Could slipping in Peterson as a variable be effective? Unless we do it we'll never know. The counter point is that if players like Womack, Peterson and Texada are only warm bodies for emergency that is an issue.
Bryant is another issue but whether we have a better alternative is less clear. Collaros was injured on a blindside hit. Moving Broxton to LT OT and leaving Vanterpool at RT may be a necessary change. Our offence has not been great all season. Even less so with Brown learning the playbook.
Do we expect any of Bryant, Nichols or K. Wilson back in 2027?
Status quo is not an option.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 01, 2026, 04:58:20 PMSmith is improving but I did notice he got caught inside on Salter's 1st big run outside. It may not have been his assignment but then a couple of other players missed tackles.
Quit defending K. Wilson. He was a liability last year and that continues this year. You suggest something major to change on the ability to stop the run but decline all the comments about K. Wilson.
I don't know if Vaval is a better option at DB than Moxey. We have Womack as a back up returner and receiver. Vaval could still also be returning kicks.
I think the defensive strategy of 10 yards off the ball is hurting the secondary. Nichols didn't forget how to play and often is covering a top receiver.
It's a consideration but we don't know if it's a good one since we don't see every rep in practice. Our defence is more of an issue than any possible " damage " to our return game.
Other teams have other RB's to use in different situations on their AR. That's something we lack. In the red zone on 2nd and 3 or 4 we give it to Oliveria and he gets stuffed. Defences know what to expect.
Could slipping in Peterson as a variable be effective? Unless we do it we'll never know. The counter point is that if players like Womack, Peterson and Texada are only warm bodies for emergency that is an issue.
Condell is continuing the trend of not involving Clercius or MCI in the offence's plans as well as ignoring Cobb and now Nield, tracing back to Ottawa did he ever make good use of his Natl. players? I see from last years Ottawa roster he employed Luther Hakunavanhu and Daniel Adeboboye who were underused and let go at the end of last season.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 01, 2026, 04:58:20 PMSmith is improving but I did notice he got caught inside on Salter's 1st big run outside. It may not have been his assignment but then a couple of other players missed tackles as well. He's made other what appears to be errors but it's to be expected with just starting to get more reps.
Quit defending K. Wilson. He was a liability last year and that continues this year. You suggest something major to change on the ability to stop the run but decline all the comments about K. Wilson.
I don't know if Vaval is a better option at DB than Moxey. We have Womack as a back up returner and receiver. Vaval could still also be returning kicks.
We also have Jackson who appears to be a SAM or DHB option.
I think the defensive strategy of 10 yards off the ball is hurting the secondary. Nichols didn't forget how to play and often is covering a top receiver.
It's a consideration but we don't know if it's a good one since we don't see every rep in practice. Our defence is more of an issue than any possible " damage " to our return game.
Other teams have other RB's to use in different situations on their AR. That's something we lack. In the red zone on 2nd and 3 or 4 we give it to Oliveria and he gets stuffed. Defences know what to expect.
Could slipping in Peterson as a variable be effective? Unless we do it we'll never know. The counter point is that if players like Womack, Peterson and Texada are only warm bodies for emergency that is an issue.
Bryant is another issue but whether we have a better alternative is less clear. Collaros was injured on a blindside hit. Moving Broxton to LT OT and leaving Vanterpool at RT may be a necessary change. Our offence has not been great all season. Even less so with Brown learning the playbook.
Do we expect any of Bryant, Nichols or K. Wilson back in 2027?
Status quo is not an option.
Don't tell me what/how to post and while I have defended Wilson in the past, I suggested he stays on the AR but give Smith more reps. No need to be like that. Fake news I don't decline all comments about Wilson but nice try! Lol
2026
WPG 8 22 2 0
His numbers are consistent with his career, near the end, yes. Good enough to remain on the AR, yes.
Make a lot of good points, didn't notice Smiths mistake but our group at the game thought he looked good. Did notice Wilson with a big tackle/stuff!
Wilson had a good year last year. He wasn't a liability imo. The facts suggest you are wrong, 2nd best tackle total best sack total (matched 2019). Dems the facts jack. Played all the game. D was good last year.
2025
WPG 18 49 2 3
Moxie >>>> Vaval, Vaval on D would be an experiment/future development opportunity. Would hurt more than help now. Might pay off for future.
As mentioned before putting Peterson on isn't worth who comes off. Other ways to give people touches in thr backfield as mentioned previously. Brady is our guy and needs more touches not less. Now we did swing that too far on Thurs, over compensated.
Do we expect any of Bryant, Nichols or K. Wilson back in 2027? No
Quote from: BBRT on August 01, 2026, 04:45:59 PMI am a strong believer in trend analysis (hence my doctoral dissertation) and the trend line for Bomber personnel and related has trended downward for 3 years at least IMHO. The 2026 talent pool is just not good enough to compete effectively regardless of who you plug and play. And this is not a new issue. IMHO it has been going on for 3 years or so. Too many older veterans past their best before dates and a lack of solid talent bought in to supplement or grow the talent pool. I believe from a top management perspective (Miller and Walters) we are good, however from there on down not sure if changes are needed. Will not happen this year but if Miller wants sold out stadiums in 2027 he will probably need to make some changes within the coaching and scouting ranks.
For 2026 I believe all we will be able to do is make minor cosmetic changes etc. Just my opinion from the outside looking in.
Hard to argue with any of this
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 01, 2026, 05:15:57 PMCondell is continuing the trend of not involving Clercius or MCI in the offence's plans as well as ignoring Cobb and now Nield, tracing back to Ottawa did he ever make good use of his Natl. players? I see from last years Ottawa roster he employed Luther Hakunavanhu and Daniel Adeboboye who were underused and let go at the end of last season.
It was Clercius' first game and he's a back-up. MCI is a FB/ How many reps do you think they'd get? Cobb is the last possible read and Neild seems to be QB dependant. Zach looked his way a lot, but Dru is not.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 01, 2026, 05:41:07 PMDon't tell me what/how to post and while I have defended Wilson in the past, I suggested he stays on the AR but give Smith more reps. No need to be like that. Fake news I don't decline all comments about Wilson but nice try! Lol
2026
WPG 8 22 2 0
His numbers are consistent with his career, near the end, yes. Good enough to remain on the AR, yes.
Make a lot of good points, didn't notice Smiths mistake but our group at the game thought he looked good. Did notice Wilson with a big tackle/stuff!
Wilson had a good year last year. He wasn't a liability imo. The facts suggest you are wrong, 2nd best tackle total best sack total (matched 2019). Dems the facts jack. Played all the game. D was good last year.
2025
WPG 18 49 2 3
Moxie >>>> Vaval, Vaval on D would be an experiment/future development opportunity. Would hurt more than help now. Might pay off for future.
As mentioned before putting Peterson on isn't worth who comes off. Other ways to give people touches in thr backfield as mentioned previously. Brady is our guy and needs more touches not less. Now we did swing that too far on Thurs, over compensated.
Do we expect any of Bryant, Nichols or K. Wilson back in 2027? No
Hard to argue with any of this
You can call it fake news but you need a reality check with older veterans that are under performing. If Calgary beats Hamilton today as expected, the Bombers will be essentially in 4th place. We'll have lost to Edmonton, Calgary and BC.
We also finished in 4th in 2025 winning 10 games. So that's 14 wins in 26 games in that time frame. We didn't JUST to lose the Lions, we were destroyed.
It's been a downward team trend which is obvious. Minor tweaks are not enough.
As far as K. Wilson he was a WIL moved to MLB this season. What he did in the past is irrelevant at the moment.
Something has to give and it's not just reps for this player or that player. Somebody needs to be replace if we want to finish better than a crossover.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 01, 2026, 06:06:56 PMYou can call it fake news but you need a reality check with older veterans that are under performing. If Calgary beats Hamilton today as expected, the Bombers will be essentially in 4th place. We'll have lost to Edmonton, Calgary and BC.
As soon as some new players (and hopefully a new defensive coordinator)gets shuffled into position they'll be latest and greatest best ever also and the told-ya-so's can re-commence. The cycle CNA then continue of pretending to know what he's talking about while simultaneously saying the same thing over and over and over.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 01, 2026, 06:06:56 PMYou can call it fake news but you need a reality check with older veterans that are under performing. If Calgary beats Hamilton today as expected, the Bombers will be essentially in 4th place. We'll have lost to Edmonton, Calgary and BC.
We also finished in 4th in 2025 winning 10 games. So that's 14 wins in 26 games in that time frame. We didn't JUST to lose the Lions, we were destroyed.
It's been a downward team trend which is obvious. Minor tweaks are not enough.
As far as K. Wilson he was a WIL moved to MLB this season. What he did in the past is irrelevant at the moment.
Something has to give and it's not just reps for this player or that player. Somebody needs to be replace if we want to finish better than a crossover.
Fake news wasn't in reference to Wilson's play or your analysis it was in reference to how you said I decline all comments about Wilson.
The debate on his performance is a good one and we should continue it. You make a good point about how he changed positions. That said his stats paint a different picture than what you have said about him.
Its a tough spot for this club. A bunch a vets near the end and we are on the cusp of a rebuild.
Yes we are a cross over team at best. Yes we need help on the field and in coaching.
To those that suggest we spell or replace Brady
He leads the league in yards per carry which meets his career high
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 01, 2026, 06:46:03 PMFake news wasn't in reference to Wilson's play or your analysis it was in reference to how you said I decline all comments about Wilson.
The debate on his performance is a good one and we should continue it. You make a good point about how he changed positions. That said his stats paint a different picture than what you have said about him.
Its a tough spot for this club. A bunch a vets near the end and we are on the cusp of a rebuild.
Yes we are a cross over team at best. Yes we need help on the field and in coaching.
To those that suggest we spell or replace Brady
He leads the league in yards per carry which meets his career high
Declining comments about Wilson: You want to hold onto players because of their past performance when they are clearly in decline.
I disagree his stats show something different. I even had pointed out earlier an comparison to Sankey in the last game. I'd also point out the stat of giving up 377 yards rushing in the last game. We also gave up 104 yards to Rankin earlier and 124 yards to Rountree.
Today's game: M. Lee at MLB has 3 DT's and 2 sacks as an example. Last week he had 2 DT's against us. McMannis has 2 DT's by half time today. Last week he had 4 in the game.
MLB's need to make plays that impact the game often. ( Bighill ). He played sideline to sideline.
Regarding Brady in the last game. I've deleted the PVR. However, we were inside the 10 twice early and IIRC he got essentially stuffed and we settled for FG's. Yes it was predictable and our OL can't run block but those are plays he has to be more successful.
I've mentioned the comment about doing the same thing and expecting a different result. The fault is not only with him but the result is predictable.
BTW: The counter point about using Vaval at CB if he's better than Moxey. McAllister and Pimpleton both are used on offence in a significant way but are the primary returner as well. There have been defensive players that have done the same. Although we don't see a CB rotating in and out while you do see an offensive player not play every down.
So it's a bit different and whether Vaval is an upgrade at CB and whether Womak has something to offer as a returner IDK. He may be the next Vaval for all we know or the 1st cut next week.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 01, 2026, 08:30:54 PMDeclining comments about Wilson: You want to hold onto players because of their past performance when they are clearly in decline.
I disagree his stats show something different. I even had pointed out earlier an comparison to Sankey in the last game. I'd also point out the stat of giving up 377 yards rushing in the last game. We also gave up 104 yards to Rankin earlier and 124 yards to Rountree.
Today's game: M. Lee at MLB has 3 DT's and 2 sacks as an example. Last week he had 2 DT's against us. McMannis has 2 DT's by half time today. Last week he had 4 in the game.
MLB's need to make plays that impact the game often. ( Bighill ). He played sideline to sideline.
Regarding Brady in the last game. I've deleted the PVR. However, we were inside the 10 twice early and IIRC he got essentially stuffed and we settled for FG's. Yes it was predictable and our OL can't run block but those are plays he has to be more successful.
I've mentioned the comment about doing the same thing and expecting a different result. The fault is not only with him but the result is predictable.
BTW: The counter point about using Vaval at CB if he's better than Moxey. McAllister and Pimpleton both are used on offence in a significant way but are the primary returner as well. There have been defensive players that have done the same. Although we don't see a CB rotating in and out while you do see an offensive player not play every down.
So it's a bit different and whether Vaval is an upgrade at CB and whether Womak has something to offer as a returner IDK. He may be the next Vaval for all we know or the 1st cut next week.
I only said to keep Wilson in AR and spell him with Smith. Don't try to make the discussion into something different. I defend the players I like, each situation is unique. Speaking about my approach in general terms brings nothing to the discussion. You don't get better by deletion unless next man up is better. I have always loved Wilson and a few years ago some on the forum dumped on him (injuries). Bounced back last year and you are trying sell that he was a liability when the stats (facts) tell a different story. I like to back up my opinions with facts. Others liked Wilson's game last year. An attempt to revise history there to fit your current narrative imo.
You have moved on from good vets too early (Harris) before. Sometimes the greats are like fine wine. Yes sometimes they spoil. Wilson is like box wine at this point, good enough but ok to try something new some weekends lol.
You called Wilson a liability or something similar last year which his stats 100% prove otherwise.
Vaval <<< Moxie at corner
This year lets see how the seasons ends before we judge Wilsons season. About average I would guess.
Vaval is so special you keep him healthy for teams imo. Any suggestion for him to be spelled makes zero sense imo.
I enjoyed your take, make some good points.
Sankey and Biggie are generational talents. Not a fair comparison imo.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 01, 2026, 09:10:55 PMI only said to keep Wilson in AR and spell him with Smith. Don't try to make the discussion into something different. I defend the players I like, each situation is unique. Speaking about my approach in general terms brings nothing to the discussion. You don't get better by deletion unless next man up is better. I have always loved Wilson and a few years ago some on the forum dumped on him (injuries). Bounced back last year and you are trying sell that he was a liability when the stats (facts) tell a different story. I like to back up my opinions with facts. Others liked Wilson's game last year. An attempt to revise history there to fit your current narrative imo.
You have moved on from good vets too early (Harris) before. Sometimes the greats are like fine wine. Yes sometimes they spoil. Wilson is like box wine at this point, good enough but ok to try something new some weekends lol.
You called Wilson a liability or something similar last year which his stats 100% prove otherwise.
Vaval <<< Moxie at corner
This year lets see how the seasons ends before we judge Wilsons season. About average I would guess.
Vaval is so special you keep him healthy for teams imo. Any suggestion for him to be spelled makes zero sense imo.
I enjoyed your take, make some good points.
Sankey and Biggie are generational talents. Not a fair comparison imo.
Many of us thought bringing back K. Wilson was a mistake and noticed his downward spiral more than in just this season.Read the off season comments if you can find them or even TC questioning what the heck. He has not had anything approaching a good season. Keeping him on the AR with less reps does nothing for succession planning or roster management. At best it's a maybe decision skewed by already using a DI spot on Ayers.
You want to wait once again to see how the season works out? From 2022 to date we've won less games every season. We're trending badly at the moment with no apparent answers. Tied with the Stamps for 3rd / 4th and they are a better team at the moment.
Many weren't interested in Sankey when he was available. Go figure.
I see McMannis now has 5 DT's. In the 2nd half I noticed in the 3rd Q, he stopped an RB from getting a 1st down. He had a TFL, a near int and a couple of other important plays.
I'm not sure if I wanted to move on from Harris early but if we didn't then we wouldn't have developed Oliveria. SMS is always a consideration when making these decisions. Succession plan, injury history, age etc etc.
Yards per carry is a very good stat. I'd like the stat on how many shorter 2nd down plays he doesn't make the play necessary. I mentioned the 2 times we settled for FG's when the necessary run didn't succeed. It is something we see often late in games when teams know he'll be running out the clock and are forced to end up punting. Getting 3 yards when you need 2 and the opponent knows you'll get the ball type of situation.
Yes Vaval is special. So is McAllister and he scored 3 TD's on us last week.. The Bombers used Grant on offence in the past. Last year we would have used Logan on offence if Vaval didn't beat him out as the returner.
An argument could be made that he isn't better than Moxey as a CB but the argument that he shouldn't see double duty is not. History is full of players that have had that kind of dual role including in Winnipeg.
Moxey is taking a lot of heat but IMO it's more soft coverage by JY that are the issue.
Next game is against the Redblacks. It might be time to " test " some changes. That's a risk but so would losing to them be bad bad news.
It's not the 1st time the " board " has questioned roster choices and lack of use of the entire roster.
Having said that about on offence, I'm wondering if the constant rotation on defence is really working out for the best. The defence is making a lot of mistakes and that might be part of it.
Quote from: Jesse on August 01, 2026, 05:58:23 PMIt was Clercius' first game and he's a back-up. MCI is a FB/ How many reps do you think they'd get? Cobb is the last possible read and Neild seems to be QB dependant. Zach looked his way a lot, but Dru is not.
Who is Clercius a backup to, Cobb?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 01, 2026, 11:17:27 PMWho is Clercius a backup to, Cobb?
Just any Canadian receiver. Technically listed behind Neild, I think.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 01, 2026, 10:06:29 PMMany of us thought bringing back K. Wilson was a mistake and noticed his downward spiral more than in just this season.Read the off season comments if you can find them or even TC questioning what the heck. He has not had anything approaching a good season. Keeping him on the AR with less reps does nothing for succession planning or roster management. At best it's a maybe decision skewed by already using a DI spot on Ayers.
You want to wait once again to see how the season works out? From 2022 to date we've won less games every season. We're trending badly at the moment with no apparent answers. Tied with the Stamps for 3rd / 4th and they are a better team at the moment.
Many weren't interested in Sankey when he was available. Go figure.
I see McMannis now has 5 DT's. In the 2nd half I noticed in the 3rd Q, he stopped an RB from getting a 1st down. He had a TFL, a near int and a couple of other important plays.
I'm not sure if I wanted to move on from Harris early but if we didn't then we wouldn't have developed Oliveria. SMS is always a consideration when making these decisions. Succession plan, injury history, age etc etc.
Yards per carry is a very good stat. I'd like the stat on how many shorter 2nd down plays he doesn't make the play necessary. I mentioned the 2 times we settled for FG's when the necessary run didn't succeed. It is something we see often late in games when teams know he'll be running out the clock and are forced to end up punting. Getting 3 yards when you need 2 and the opponent knows you'll get the ball type of situation.
Yes Vaval is special. So is McAllister and he scored 3 TD's on us last week.. The Bombers used Grant on offence in the past. Last year we would have used Logan on offence if Vaval didn't beat him out as the returner.
An argument could be made that he isn't better than Moxey as a CB but the argument that he shouldn't see double duty is not. History is full of players that have had that kind of dual role including in Winnipeg.
Moxey is taking a lot of heat but IMO it's more soft coverage by JY that are the issue.
Next game is against the Redblacks. It might be time to " test " some changes. That's a risk but so would losing to them be bad bad news.
It's not the 1st time the " board " has questioned roster choices and lack of use of the entire roster.
Having said that about on offence, I'm wondering if the constant rotation on defence is really working out for the best. The defence is making a lot of mistakes and that might be part of it.
Some very good points and a well written summary. The last point I might start to waiver on. For years when D was dominant the rotation was king. One of the teams that played earlier mentioned the complexity of their systems and how it was a balance between confusing players and not being to one dimensional. A fine line the Bombers must walk. Reminds me of late Dave Ritchie how he made all his stars play teams. An interesting way to deploy the roster but perhaps not how I would approach it. In the end rotation brings development opportunity. Vets also can be more consistent.
This club has lots of soul searching. For someone that has been so positive for so long, the tides have turned but perhaps we can surf this final surge to the playoffs and Zach can sing us a swan song for the ages.
What's your summary on Ayers impact. With the D playing so poorly he disappeared a bit or am I wrong? Is he a beast on teams.
These deeper dives on club are really enjoyable man. While we sometimes battle, the very essence of this forum is on full display.
You just didn't believe fully in late stage injury plaqued Harris like I did. I was slightly exaggerating. Unless my memory fails me, then forgive my ignorance
Sankey just too $. Moxie isn't part of the solution but also not our biggest problem.
A healthy Kramdi will balance out the D a bit imo. That's a few games away likely and might be too late.