Over the years Mike has continued to be loyal to players and coaches who bleed Blue and Gold. Eventually quietly without extra media attention ie " throwing players under the bus" He needs to play ,find better players. Stanley looked old an slow and they did help him with chipping but he is past his expiring date. Nichols too is ditto the above old and slow. To coin a phrase the coaches and players often use I need to look at the film. JY needs to accountable for not scheming correctly and not having players with the ability to contain the ends. Tommy was basically telling us you want run I will give you run. Poor play calling at very important times. I am and continue to be a Bomber fan. I am sad today as I write this comment. As fans we need to see improvements. Hope Zack is back soon we can see why Ottawa didn't want Dru.
It's not players, Zach won't fix this.....It's who is making the decision to continue to play the Bryants, and who is putting these guys into schemes that don't work....The question becomes now, can OSH make some tough decisions.....
The biggest problems are the ones that have been here awhile:
Younger
Nichols
Oliveira
Bryant
Vanterpool
Collaros
Eli
Kramdi
O'Shea
Wow, we thought the Calgary game was bad, this game was an entirely new level of bad-Jeff reinbold and Justin goltz bad!! We are a very bad football team, the worst in the league. Young punk Qb comes in and taunts us and nobody responses. That's weak. This season is a wash, we need some decent O linemen, a MLB that can stop the run, a secondary that can tackle, a safety that can make a play. The laundry list is long and this isn't getting fixed overnight, and will be more difficult since we traded away 2 first round draft picks. this unit ends up last in the west and out of the playoffs. This is the reinbold era v2
QuoteThe biggest problems are the ones that have been here awhile:
Younger
Nichols
Oliveira
Bryant
Vanterpool
Collaros
Eli
Kramdi
O'Shea
You can add Walters to the top of that list. What new talent has he brought in and he gave away 2 first round picks for a backup Qb, only because our other QBs are way worse. Elgersma is a complete joke of a Qb.
Quote from: dd on Today at 02:33:43 PMYou can add Walters to the top of that list. What new talent has he brought in and he gave away 2 first round picks for a backup Qb, only because our other QBs are way worse. Elgersma is a complete joke of a Qb.
Walters hasn't been bad. He doesn't have the biggest voice on the coordinators or the systems being run. And if we don't play or sign Brown next year it's not a second first.
His off season work this year has been largely good. It's the older players who have failed and I think that quite squarely rests with O'Shea.
Someone needs to sit Mike down and explain very clearly that his commitment to honoring his vets doesn't work if they don't win and is no longer acceptable. I thought this conversation was had after last year but we're seeing the same pattern of choice making and therefore results. It's becoming a real issue that's hard to ignore and it for certain needs real correction.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 03:29:53 PMWalters hasn't been bad. He doesn't have the biggest voice on the coordinators or the systems being run. And if we don't play or sign Brown next year it's not a second first.
His off season work this year has been largely good. It's the older players who have failed and I think that quite squarely rests with O'Shea.
Someone needs to sit Mike down and explain very clearly that his commitment to honoring his vets doesn't work if they don't win and is no longer acceptable. I thought this conversation was had after last year but we're seeing the same pattern of choice making and therefore results. It's becoming a real issue that's hard to ignore and it for certain needs real correction.
Walters brings in the players. He shares all of this too. Our recruiting and our drafting has been subpar for years.
Yes, they have to save their faces. So all top three QBs should be gone. BCs third string is better than all the guys we have. Status quo. That Elderma kid,is so over hyped,it's rediculous. Who did he play against? What a waste short career. Talk about a never was! Give him to Lapo to play flag football. Our third string guy must be really bad, to never see the field...yikes.
Who's in charge of this tire fire? Chevaldayoff? lol!
I'd say tire fire. Old, lousy never were. We should suspend the franchise for the remainder of the year. Lots of people being overpaid and not delivering this year!
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 02:25:17 PMThe biggest problems are the ones that have been here awhile:
Younger
Nichols
Oliveira
Bryant
Vanterpool
Collaros
Eli
Kramdi
O'Shea
Agree on Nichols, Vanterpool, somewhat on MOS.
To suggest Brady is a problem is massive stretch. He might break the all time Bomber rushing yards is he is healthy.
I know your thoughts on Kramdi but I don't agree, a very good starting CDN LB
I agree
Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 04:27:27 PMAgree on Nichols, Vanterpool, somewhat on MOS.
To suggest Brady is a problem is massive stretch. He might break the all time Bomber rushing yards is he is healthy.
I know your thoughts on Kramdi but I don't agree, a very good starting CDN LB
I agree on Kramdi, Ive underestimated his importance, after 2 games without him u can see the impact
Olivera isnt an issue.
The lack of preparedness for replacement players is a huge issue.
Quote from: Blueforlife on Today at 04:27:27 PMAgree on Nichols, Vanterpool, somewhat on MOS.
To suggest Brady is a problem is massive stretch. He might break the all time Bomber rushing yards is he is healthy.
I know your thoughts on Kramdi but I don't agree, a very good starting CDN LB
You had a front row seat to a running back who costs a third as much SMS and was three times more versatile and effective. Kramdi is such a good linebacker he's been moved to safety. Time to wake up or write fiction.
Yes, loyalty was a strength, but it can be a weakness.
MOS does need to give Bryant some time off to get back to his proper level. He is obviously labouring and not able to keep up with the competition, and giving up the QB's blind side is killing us.
Nichols keeps getting beat, I'm not sure if he's lost half a step, but that's the margin he's getting outplayed by. Is he half a step better than his replacement, who would be beat by a whole step, I don't know. And I don't know if it is JY's system that is putting him half a step behind, with guys having to figure out their assignments and alignments new every down. Moxley is almost as bad.
The dline is stepping up, the LB's seem to be good, but we need Kramdi there, not Griff the whiff. And while Kelly has upped his game over the last few games, he was embarrassing last night. Again, did JY put him in a position to succeed previously, and now give him responsibilities beyond his abilities this game with Kramdi out? Regardless, pee you. He stunk.
Salter got his yards by stepping up past our dline. They were getting penetration nicely, but Salter wasn't there when they got there. And we got worse at it, not better, as the game went on. Where was our "spy" that we use on mobile QB's? Did they identify him and use a blocker on him effectively? Because he got to the second level far to easily.
The interior of the oline seemed better, and Brady had some nice runs. Until they stopped giving him the rock.
Daniels is coming along, and Clercius had a nice grab. Pokey and White did good work when the ball reached them.
But back to loyalty. Yes, Walters and MOS are loyal, to a fault. Whether it is Zach, or Dru, or Nichols, or Bryant... or even JY... we seem to have some underperforming stars...
Quote from: DM83 on Today at 04:15:41 PMYes, they have to save their faces. So all top three QBs should be gone. BCs third string is better than all the guys we have. Status quo. That Elderma kid,is so over hyped,it's rediculous. Who did he play against? What a waste short career. Talk about a never was! Give him to Lapo to play flag football. Our third string guy must be really bad, to never see the field...yikes.
Who's in charge of this tire fire? Chevaldayoff? lol!
The Lions QB threw for just under 100 yards. Yes he can run but that isn't successful for long if you can't become a successful passer.
Jury is certainly out with such a short sample.
Quote from: Pete on Today at 04:39:33 PMI agree I agree on Kramdi, Ive underestimated his importance, after 2 games without him u can see the impact
Olivera isnt an issue.
The lack of preparedness for replacement players is a huge issue.
Makes you wonder if Kramdi has become a crutch for the other players to rely on, maybe he's the only one paying attention and taking notes in class. Heard that Nichols was smart but don't see much evidence of it as he plays mostly by instinct, not sure he knows what he supposed to do on some of those receiver switch offs in zone. Anyone questioning what Jake Thomas was doing out there the last few seasons should also contemplate what his role was.
The fish rots from the head down. There are too many problems with this team (coordinators, coaching, poor new American talent, mediocre drafting, terrible free agent signing last off season) to believe that making a couple of changes will make a large difference. Walters and O'Shea are the problem, the rest are just a symptom of their mismanagement.
Unfortunately, we are stuck with them for another 3 years. I don't think things will truly improve until they are gone. Regarding changes, a true high end QB would help the most, but there is noone on the horizon.
I ran into Wade Miller at the game last night. The guy is unreal. He wanted to know how long I had to wait in line for my food. He's out there working hard, talking to people every game looking to make the game day experience better. I told him he was doing a fantastic job off the field, but that we had serious problems on the field. He nodded his head, and said "No XXXX". I think the problem is that 1. His hands were tied to an extent in terms of reupping Walters and O'Shea. O'Shea is very popular, took us to Grey cups in 5 of the past 6 seasons, and has 6 straight playoff appearances. Even is he was not 100% happy with the trajectory of the team, it would have been a stretch to fire O'Shea this offseason. 2. As long as they are selling out and making money hand over fist, there is less incentive to make drastic changes, and the replacements won't necessarily be better. I think the best we can hope for is that he lights a fire under Walters and O'Shea to change the way they do things and improve the team.
To find a bomber game I enjoyed less than the one last night, I think I'd have to go back to the Tim Burke era.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 05:12:45 PMMakes you wonder if Kramdi has become a crutch for the other players to rely on, maybe he's the only one paying attention and taking notes in class. Heard that Nichols was smart but don't see much evidence of it as he plays mostly by instinct, not sure he knows what he supposed to do on some of those receiver switch offs in zone. Anyone questioning what Jake Thomas was doing out there the last few seasons should also contemplate what his role was.
The defense was awful with Kramdi in it too. He's not going to save us.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on Today at 05:18:24 PMThe defense was awful with Kramdi in it too. He's not going to save us.
Right? Nothing much has changed the last couple of weeks.
Quote from: Jesse on Today at 05:20:04 PMRight? Nothing much has changed the last couple of weeks.
There have been a lot of threads of posters trying to narrow it down to individual failures. None of them are wrong necessarily and I certainly don't blame anyone for trying to cope and/or figure out a problem simply so that we could theoretically fix it and be good. But when I sit here thinking about who's failing, the list eventually becomes most if not all of the entire roster, including and especially the coordinators. And that doesn't change week in and week out even with player swaps due to injury or change in scheme or whatever.