Our defense is terrible especially the secondary like I said earlier in posts. We can't tackle we give up big explosion plays, and too many turnovers We signed Moxey , Ceresna and Nield, as free agents they have been average at best. Nichols can't tackle anymore, our Defensive coordinator has a deer in the headlights look. Evan Holm tries his best but he has no help IMO. Our head coach has judgement lapses, our best players have been Vaval and Oliveira. No deep threat whatsoever,IMO. Our D line has had spurts but not consistent.
Dru Brown threw 4 interceptions tonight but he ran for his life. No excuse for him but Collaros would I
f done the same or worse lol . We need too make changes to make our team better or we are going into a deep abyss of hell.
I'm not going to hindsight this one. I was very happy with our off season moves and in a lot of ways they're working the way we wanted them to, but obviously there are other issues.
Yes agreed. The O line Ends to lose 200 pods collectively. Face it they can't pass block. Our QNs will all be out for the season, after they are in the field for four games..
Please get rid of the def coord. Plus the guys brought in can't play at this level. Pokey Wilson and Demski are the only. Receivers that can play at this level.
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The defense seemed to think it was touch football. Their lack of effort tells me they want to go back to their homes and play flag football. The lack kf linebacker macho ness is ridiculous. Trying to tackle the runs up the middle by just reaching out is ridiculous.
I see why Dru brown was released. Now that was behind a crap o line. I am embarrassed at how fat they are.
And the future shedule? I don't see where the team can win again!. Then after this we have the. Cheveldayoff led Jets. It's so good living here.
MOS loves his vets no matter how old and slow they are. Also likes to hire within and it shows. Plus poor judgement on players to keep and let to many guys go to keeps his vets EG: Bryant, Wilson, Nichols and Moxey just to name a few.
Quote from: DM83 on July 25, 2026, 04:36:51 AMNow that was behind a crap o line. I am embarrassed at how fat they are.
And yet our weakest hoggie is Eli, who is also the lightest. Big Stan ended up on his backside tonight, meaning he might need MORE fat, not less. You need to be quick AND super fat to be a good hoggie. Look at Yoshi lighting it up in SSK. He's both.
Wallace is slow, but pretty sure losing 30lb would do nothing to fix that. He's just slow. If you want quicker OL, hire quicker OL.
Quote from: Jesse on July 25, 2026, 04:00:03 AMI'm not going to hindsight this one. I was very happy with our off season moves and in a lot of ways they're working the way we wanted them to, but obviously there are other issues.
But Nield was a hope & a prayer based on one play. The hope is he'll rapidly progress now that he's year 3 or whatever. But the reality is he's complete garbage. I can't think of one thing he's good at, other than "he's big". Clercius has made better plays than Nield in the past, and at half the price, and he's bigger.
We wanted to obtain our own KSB, but what we got was more a JFG, but at KSB prices.
Honestly, at this point I'd just cut Nield and start Corcoran. At least the kid is fast and has far better hands, and seems to be willing to actually try and have some freakin' morale instead of looking dead out there.
Maybe Nield has some trade value and we can claw back some of the wasted Dru picks. Offer me a 2RDP for Nield: bye bye Nield.
See also:
https://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=57283.0
"We're going to conduct TC differently so they are better prepared"
There's no preparation. It was daiquiris on the dock this week, clearly. I wonder what flavor? Did they include a little umbrella?
And, my word, almost everyone on the team looks so blah at home! They perk up for away games. But at home it's like they all hit the bong pre-game. Remember who it is who is paying you, you guys!! It's the STHs butts in the seats! Shameful.
Quote from: Tecno on July 25, 2026, 07:41:09 AMBut Nield was a hope & a prayer based on one play. The hope is he'll rapidly progress now that he's year 3 or whatever. But the reality is he's complete garbage. I can't think of one thing he's good at, other than "he's big". Clercius has made better plays than Nield in the past, and at half the price, and he's bigger.
We wanted to obtain our own KSB, but what we got was more a JFG, but at KSB prices.
Honestly, at this point I'd just cut Nield and start Corcoran. At least the kid is fast and has far better hands, and seems to be willing to actually try and have some freakin' morale instead of looking dead out there.
Maybe Nield has some trade value and we can claw back some of the wasted Dru picks. Offer me a 2RDP for Nield: bye bye Nield.
Neild wasn't signed on to be a focal part of our offence though. He's been a little disappointing based on the drops, but he's at best a 4th option anyway. At the end of the year, he'll be probably have career numbers and be exactly what we thought he was going to be.
The only one who is underperforming expectations is Moxey who was supposed to at least be a quality starter. Throw in Holm and Nichols looking like shells of themselves and you get a rough looking group despite Williams looking like a fantastic find.
Broxton was our best signing, then Ceresna
agree that Moxey is just terrible
off season wasn't a bust - you can't sign everyone.
o line depth is problem
Quote from: The Zipp on July 25, 2026, 01:31:34 PMBroxton was our best signing, then Ceresna
agree that Moxey is just terrible
off season wasn't a bust - you can't sign everyone.
o line depth is problem
Really, it's been scouting, drafting, and recruitment.
Haven't brought in nearly enough of our own impact players.
Quote from: Jesse on July 25, 2026, 01:35:40 PMReally, it's been scouting, drafting, and recruitment.
Haven't brought in nearly enough of our own impact players.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Walters and our scouting have been pretty mediocre over the last 3 years as we've fallen off the rails. When O'Shea was achieving his success we had by far the best talent in the league. I would say we are now definitely in the bottom 50%, and unfortunately that goes for the most important position, QB.
Tim White was a solid signing.
Agree scouting doesn't bring the top talent anymore. We have probably third/fourth place talent. Second/third if we were in the East.
Your first two picks seem to be playing well. You have to get the ball to Daniels more.
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on July 25, 2026, 04:11:54 PMYour first two picks seem to be playing well. You have to get the ball to Daniels more.
I don't know if I want to give the slowest guy more opportunities. He seems like a guy who should have been on the practice roster for a year.
Dru Brown looked like he did playing in Ottawa....throwing 2 pics back to back tells me it's either the play calling or it's execution...In any case those are game killers...the miss by usually reliable Castillo that was returned for a td didn't help either....There has to be changes in the secondary....Opposition moving at will and blown coverage especially the td where a stamp receiver was left all on his own, 20 yds downfield, and waltzed in for a td....That's not professional football..We have a lot of work to do and changes have to be made or this is going to be a very loooong rest of the year
Quote from: bunker on July 25, 2026, 02:40:20 PMI think you hit the nail on the head. Walters and our scouting have been pretty mediocre over the last 3 years as we've fallen off the rails. When O'Shea was achieving his success we had by far the best talent in the league. I would say we are now definitely in the bottom 50%, and unfortunately that goes for the most important position, QB.
I don't know about that, they've recruited a fair number of good new imports in the last 2 seasons, Allen, Vaval, Woodbey, Pokey, Elsbury, Williams, plus 3 possibly 4 new D-linemen that look like they have promising futures. If anything they've fallen short along the O-line, not even sure Vibert is a future option as he is no longer getting any reps.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 25, 2026, 05:08:15 PMI don't know about that, they've recruited a fair number of good new imports in the last 2 seasons, Allen, Vaval, Woodbey, Pokey, Elsbury, Williams, plus 3 possibly 4 new D-linemen that look like they have promising futures. If anything they've fallen short along the O-line, not even sure Vibert is a future option as he is no longer getting any reps.
Pokey is a good receiver, but not a number 1
Vaval is great
Elsbury and Allen are replacement level players. Woodbey, too early to tell.
We are nowhere near finding enough new talent to keep up with the better teams in the league, never mind being a grey cup contender. Look back at our grey cup rosters, the contrast is stark.
Quote from: bunker on July 25, 2026, 05:41:37 PMPokey is a good receiver, but not a number 1
Vaval is great
Elsbury and Allen are replacement level players. Woodbey, too early to tell.
We are nowhere near finding enough new talent to keep up with the better teams in the league, never mind being a grey cup contender. Look back at our grey cup rosters, the contrast is stark.
Nothing wrong with replacement level players, but agree they are falling short at key positions of QB, top end WR and on the O-line. Fix those areas and they again could be in contention.
I'd consider the secondary a problem as well, although sometimes it hard to tease out talent deficit form problems with scheme. I think Nichols lost a step last year, and another one this year. I have not been impressed with Moxey. In retrospect, we maybe should have paid T. Ford? Williams is a bright spot, and I still think Holm is excellent. Kramdi at safety, hard to know. I liked the days when we had a safety who was free to roam and punish people. I don't think Kramdi does that well, and I don't think he has the greatest cover skills.
Quote from: bunker on July 25, 2026, 06:08:18 PMI'd consider the secondary a problem as well, although sometimes it hard to tease out talent deficit form problems with scheme. I think Nichols lost a step last year, and another one this year. I have not been impressed with Moxey. In retrospect, we maybe should have paid T. Ford? Williams is a bright spot, and I still think Holm is excellent. Kramdi at safety, hard to know. I liked the days when we had a safety who was free to roam and punish people. I don't think Kramdi does that well, and I don't think he has the greatest cover skills.
I never paid any attention to Moxey in Hamilton and was surprised they considered him to be a top corner back worthy of a big contract. Kind of think they will keep him until the end of the year but move on from him quickly.
As for Nichols, he's being exposed in single coverage which I don't think he was subjected to much before this season. It's up to Younger to put him in a position to succeed, but likely 2 seasons at most left in his tank.
Broxton (B).
Ceresna (B+).
Neild (C)
White (C+)
Moxey (D).
But, there is a lot of football left.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 25, 2026, 07:10:24 PMI never paid any attention to Moxey in Hamilton and was surprised they considered him to be a top corner back worthy of a big contract
Moxey was a league top db when he was in Calgary. But did nothing after leaving. He's not crap, but he's not the force he used to be.
Quote from: Jesse on July 25, 2026, 01:23:05 PMNeild wasn't signed on to be a focal part of our offence though. He's been a little disappointing based on the drops
No, Nield was paid brissett and gittens money. He was expected to play at the upper medium level, like those guys have over the last few years.
He's had one game this year where he made a difference. One.
The thing I hate most is he always looks tired, and bummed out, and bored, and dejected. That is not the attitude you want on your team. It drags everyone down.
Quote from: Tecno on July 26, 2026, 04:44:46 AMNo, Nield was paid brissett and gittens money. He was expected to play at the upper medium level, like those guys have over the last few years.
He's had one game this year where he made a difference. One.
The thing I hate most is he always looks tired, and bummed out, and bored, and dejected. That is not the attitude you want on your team. It drags everyone down.
Yeah, well. Even in an offence that throws for significantly less yards than Calgary or Hamilton, he still has more than either of those two.
Again, he has to clean up his drops, but he's our 4th read and Demski insurance. He's not exceeding my expectations, but he's not in my top 10 list of disappointments this year either.
Quote from: Tecno on July 26, 2026, 04:44:46 AMNo, Nield was paid brissett and gittens money. He was expected to play at the upper medium level, like those guys have over the last few years.
He's had one game this year where he made a difference. One.
The thing I hate most is he always looks tired, and bummed out, and bored, and dejected. That is not the attitude you want on your team. It drags everyone down.
Have to update his name to Tommy 3-drops...or is it now 4? He's made a few difficult receptions and dropped a few but I don't think they should reduce his targets as punishment, maybe he has Adarius Bowman disease and just needs a constant feed to get past the rough spots. He's the closest thing they have to a bigger receiver so I'm willing to give him the entire season to prove his value. BOLO is proving he had long-term value, if not the most spectacular receiver he's demonstrated he can be a solid contributor.
I am still giving Tim White props. Demski, Wilson and White all have 400ish yards. Just 66 yards difference from best to worst. That is 3 1,000 yard seasons if we keep it up. Something wrong with signing a 1,000 yard receiver? It would be his 5th in a row.
Interesting that Nield is ahead of Brisset, Gittens, Julien Grant, and Boo in receiving yards after 7 games.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 26, 2026, 08:28:04 PMInteresting that Nield is ahead of Brisset, Gittens, Julien Grant, and Boo in receiving yards after 7 games.
No TDs because he keeps dropping them, but he's been a productive 4th still.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 26, 2026, 08:28:04 PMInteresting that Nield is ahead of Brisset, Gittens, Julien Grant, and Boo in receiving yards after 7 games.
I knew you guys were going to bring this up, argh. I was going to pre-bunk it but wanted to keep my post short.
Brissett and Gittens both have had 900-1100Y seasons. Both were instrumental in their teams winning cups ('24 and '22 respectively -- against us: PTSD).
Nield's top season was 500Y, and while he made the critical play in the WDF, he did almost nothing in the GC.
Brissett and Gittens are also now on teams either without a QB (HAM) or had early-season struggles (CGY), so that's why their '26 stats are low.
Strangely enough, all 3 guys are in about the same point in their career. I think we saw the grit on that one catch and took a flyer because we knew we needed to start more NATs. But I think we chose poorly and overpaid. So many NATs in the league, some for less money, are outperforming him.
And as for $, as I originally said, Nield is being paid Brissett/Gittens upper-mid NAT $. BOO and KJG are not fair comparisons because they make Cobb-level $ (and KJG was once much better but clearly about to retire).
To be fair to Mafia, maybe Nield was the only/best one available in FA, at least at high-middling $ instead of KSB/Demski $.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 26, 2026, 05:14:04 PMHe's the closest thing they have to a bigger receiver so I'm willing to give him the entire season to prove his value.
To be honest, I think Clercius is better. He's bigger, tougher, and has better hands. Clercius even made that one circus catch for us last season. Nield is devoid of circus.
I'd put Clercius in Nield's spot, and Nield behind Cobb. Or even park him for now to send a wake-up signal. His attitude & demeanor is worse than the drops, and that won't change without a slap upside the head.
Why did we ever get White and Nield? And our defence hasn't gotten any better over the time that Younger has taken over.
White is good enough, though probably at slightly too high a price. He's pretty sneaky at getting open, and is even doing well and hanging on to those killer balls in traffic.
When they finally figure out how to get a deep ball going again I expect white to start looking much better.
Isn't he like half our passing TDS this season? It's cobb and Nield that aren't contributing enough.