For those who plan to attend training camp this year (starting May 6th), please report your observations here. Media reports on the Rookie Training camp will also be posted here.
Blue Bombers Rookie Camp Primer
It is a seven-hour audition spread out over three days and with a definite 'outwit, out play, outlast' Survivor-type feel to it all.
One mistake, after all, could be critically devastating, just as one shining moment might make a massive positive first impression.
So, given all that — the high stakes involved with potential future employment very much hanging in the balance — Winnipeg Blue Bombers rookie camp annually serves as both a gruelling, cutthroat job interview and compelling theatre.
Case in point: Blue Bombers rookies will be on the field Wednesday morning for the first of three practice sessions and by the time Friday rolls around some of them may soon be on the highway, what with main training camp starting Sunday morning and the roster needing to be set at 85, not including 2026 CFL Canadian Draft picks. By next Tuesday, that number needs to be at 75 — again not including draft picks.
As of this writing there are 107 players on the Blue Bombers roster so very soon it will be a case of the math ain't mathing for some.
All that said, there is opportunity here for some of the newcomers.
Familiar faces gone from last year's roster include quarterbacks Chris Streveler and Chase Artopoeus, receivers Dillon Mitchell, Jerreth Sterns, Keric Wheatfall and Dalton Schoen, centre Chris Kolankowski, defensive linemen Jake Thomas, James Vaughters, Devin Adams and Jamal Woods, linebacker Shayne Gauthier and defensive backs Demerio Houston, Jamal Parker, Jr., Dexter Lawson, Jr. and Terrell Bonds.
The club was busy over the winter in free agency, adding defensive tackle Jake Ceresna, offensive tackle Jarell Broxton, receivers Tim White and Tommy Nield, linebacker Jovan Santos-Knox along with defensive backs Jonathan Moxey, Deandre Lamont and Alijah McGhee.
All that said, there is opportunity here. Every spring brings change, just as Trey Vaval — the CFL's Most Outstanding Rookie last year — along with Jaiden Woodbey, Cam Allen, Jaylen Smith, Connor Shay, Ethan Ball, Matthew Peterson, Lane Novak and Ian Leroux all made the club and significant contributions last year after stepping up in rookie and main training camp.
As rookie camp opens a nugget worth noting: two of the Blue Bombers 2026 CFL Canadian Draft class — defensive end Nuer Gatkuoth (first round, fourth overall) and offensive lineman Kevin Cline (second round, 20th overall) — will not be present. Gatkuoth is expected as soon as this weekend after attending rookie minicamp with the Denver Broncos while Cline could be a while, as he has signed with the Miami Dolphins and will be at their main training camp this summer.
The Blue Bombers open their preseason on Saturday, May 23rd in Saskatoon vs. the Saskatchewan Roughriders and then are home on Friday, May 29th against the B.C. Lions for their final dress rehearsal.
Winnipeg opens the 2026 regular season on Friday, June 5th in Calgary against the Stampeders and will then be in front of their fans for the home opener against the Hamilton Tiger-Cats on Thursday, June 11th.
Here's a quick primer to get Blue Bombers fans ready for rookie camp...
WHO TO WATCH
Names passed along by Blue Bombers crack scouting staff (in no particular order)....
The rest of the Rookie Camp article is here...
https://www.bluebombers.com/2026/05/05/blue-bombers-rookie-camp-primer/
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Daniels #73 listed as a running back... interesting.
109 players listed on training camp roster
includes
#7 QB Cole Anseeuw - U Sports intern, U of M (also at 2025 TC)
#78 Rec Jerome Penner - Winnipeg Rifles (invited to camp in 2025)
On roster at bluebombers.com but not listed
#15 DB Javaris Davis
#30 DB Matthew Jackson
Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 06, 2026, 06:21:39 PM109 players listed on training camp roster
includes
#7 QB Cole Anseeuw - U Sports intern, U of M (also at 2025 TC)
#78 Rec Jerome Penner - Winnipeg Rifles (invited to camp in 2025)
On roster at bluebombers.com but not listed
#15 DB Javaris Davis
#30 DB Matthew Jackson
Wonder what happened to the big DT they borrowed from the Rifles for TC last year?
I'm dying for an update on rookie camp :-\
Quote from: theaardvark on May 06, 2026, 05:42:49 PMDaniels #73 listed as a running back... interesting.
Running Backs / Tight Ends
I'm hoping they can use him successfully. I think there's a time and place where he can be a huge asset.
In a game where the field is so big, speed is the most important thing. Now having the biggest guy on the field can be a big advantage too.
Quote from: LXTSN on May 07, 2026, 01:14:41 AMRunning Backs / Tight Ends
I'm hoping they can use him successfully. I think there's a time and place where he can be a huge asset.
In a game where the field is so big, speed is the most important thing. Now having the biggest guy on the field can be a big advantage too.
If he's used the way that Walters' described, we're going to see the return of the TE in the CFL taking advantage of the tiny LBs that have proliferated.
Quote from: Jesse on May 07, 2026, 01:52:14 AMIf he's used the way that Walters' described, we're going to see the return of the TE in the CFL taking advantage of the tiny LBs that have proliferated.
It does make sense, some teams are using a 6th O-lineman on the majority of plays and pushing receivers into full time blocking roles they probably hate. Might as well use a big TE that can run a pattern and catch and is better equipped to block.
Blue Bombers Rookie Camp | Day 1
Ed Tait
@EdTaitWFC
Taylor Elgersma was stationed in front of a group of media following the first day of Winnipeg Blue Bombers rookie training camp dutifully answering questions.
And as the scene was unfolding it was impossible not to be struck by one thing: this is a size large man, and especially so as a quarterback.
Or, as head coach Mike O'Shea put it: "He's big. He's a big dude, that's for sure. It is shocking when you meet him personally."
Now, just for the record Elgersma doesn't quite stretch into the stratosphere like Willie Jefferson, nor is he big enough to blot out the sun like Gabe Wallace. But at 6-foot-5 and 240 pounds the rookie Canadian pivot certainly pops out physically.
Close to 60 Blue Bombers rookies were on the field on a chilly Wednesday morning, including all six quarterbacks in veterans Zach Collaros and Terry Wilson, 2025 UFL MVP Bryce Perkins, former Michigan State/Auburn star Payton Thorne, Elgersma, and Cole Anseewu of the University of Manitoba.
There's clearly a certain fascination about Elgersma from everyone in Bomberland. He was selected by the club in the second-round of last year's CFL Canadian Draft after an outstanding college career at Wilfrid Laurier that included winning the Hec Crighton Trophy before being signed by the Green Bay Packers and seeing action in last year's preseason.
Physically, he certainly comes as advertised and then some. And while it's a teeny-tiny sample size, during Wednesday's session he absolutely flashed the arm strength that has long had raised the eyebrows of scouts on both sides of the border.
Afterward, Elgersma spoke of learning from each of the guys in the Blue Bombers QB room, including Collaros with all his CFL success and experience, Perkins as a Super Bowl champ during his days with the Los Angeles Rams, Thorne from his time in the NCAA and last year in camp with the Cincinnati Bengals and Wilson, who is entering his third year with the team.
"We all have unique paths," he said, "and it's about how we can all learn from each other and pull in the same direction because we're all here to help the Winnipeg Blue Bombers win a Grey Cup."
That answer above is also a peek at the polish Elgersma brings in front of the cameras, microphones and notepads. He spoke confidently and with an ease and, remember, this is a player who would still be dubbed a prospect despite this already being his sixth professional camp — three as part of the CFL's Quarterback Internship Program (twice with Toronto, once with Hamilton), along with last year with the Packers and this winter with the Birmingham Stallions.
All those experiences mean the 24-year-old London, Ont. has hardly arrived here in Winnipeg as a prototypical wide-eyed rookie.
"I'm a rookie but it's nice to have those experiences to lean on," Elgersma said. "I know what it's like to go through training camps and digest installs (offensive playbook) fast. That's something I can do to be a leader in this locker room, too, with some of the young guys who are doing this for the first time. Can I meet with them after, can we find time to meet as a group and show them some tips that I've learned on how to digest these playbooks fast."
A lot of this, of course, is just outside noise, too. Elgersma has to know the spotlight is brighter on him because of his accomplishments and because of his birth certificate, too, and his place in a league still craving more Canadian QBs like B.C.'s Nathan Rourke and Tre Ford in Hamilton.
Yet, every prospect truly has to put on the blinders — especially in training camp — and embrace the daily grind.
"Every single time you play football you're in a battle," said Elgersma. "Whether you think you're secure or you're not we're playing pro football, so you're always battle for your spot.
"The best thing you can do is, 'What can I do better tomorrow than I didn't do well today?' What coaching points can I take away today when we watch film and then don't make the same mistakes tomorrow. If you do that for your entire career, you're going to end up in a good situation.
"Look at a guy like Zach, that's how he approaches the game and that's what I want to do as well."
Let's not overlook the fascination with someone like Perkins in Blue Bombers training camp, either.
It turns out the 29-year-old Queen Creek, AZ product has some serious CFL and Winnipeg connections — his father Bruce played with O'Shea during their days together in Hamilton (1993-94) and considers both Chris Streveler and Terry Wilson, offseason workout partners, as friends.
He came north to Winnipeg rather than pursue another year in the UFL, in part, because of the CFL's stability.
"My dad played for Hamilton and he told me they love their CFL ball up here and that's what you want to play for," he said. "And with all the changes in the UFL it felt like with where I'm at in my career... I wanted to be part of a league, a team, an organization, that really gets behind their football that is a long-standing league that loves ball and the guys are great.
"It's a fun, new challenge for me."
NEXT: Day 2 of Blue Bombers rookie camp goes Thursday from 10 a.m.-12:15 at Princess Auto Stadium and is open to the public.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2026/05/06/blue-bombers-rookie-camp-day-1/
All the TC videos posted by gobombersgo are awesome. The newest QBs look/sound pretty promising.
Nice to finally be back into the mode of getting regular vids from WFC. The new season is upon us!
Haha.....I just noticed we have 3 Smiths at LB, and another Smith at WR
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 07, 2026, 11:51:57 AMHaha.....I just noticed we have 3 Smiths at LB, and another Smith at WR
I heard Smith looks good ;D
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 07, 2026, 04:08:01 PMI heard Smith looks good ;D
Apparently he was all over the field :D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 07, 2026, 07:01:09 PM
Sounds like Jaworski might come back, but I seriously doubt anybody in Wpg. really knows.
Dante Daniels doesn't look that big but moves pretty well.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 07, 2026, 07:43:30 PMDante Daniels doesn't look that big but moves pretty well.
He has more of a receiving skill set than I imagined. He may not see the ball often as a TE but he can't be ignored by defences either. He could prove to be a decent asset.
Anyone in attendance noticing certain players standing out? Probably the easiest to evaluate is receivers against DB's. Those are a lot of one on ones.
I'll need to get my *** down there soon.
I picked out Schoen a few years ago and Vaval very early on last year as well.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 07, 2026, 08:10:50 PMHe has more of a receiving skill set than I imagined. He may not see the ball often as a TE but he can't be ignored by defences either. He could prove to be a decent asset.
Anyone in attendance noticing certain players standing out? Probably the easiest to evaluate is receivers against DB's. Those are a lot of one on ones.
If he shows some skill he may get some NFL tryouts next year. The League is always looking for tall athletic guys to play TE. Teams will even tryout basketball players with no prior football experience.
Blue Bombers Rookie Camp | Day 2
Ed Tait
@EdTaitWFC
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers had just put the finishing touches on Day 2 of rookie camp and there was De'Shaan Dixon surveying the field at Princess Auto Stadium, taking a moment to soak in and fully appreciate the scene.
"This is like a full circle moment for me, just being able to put pads on after not having played games since 2023," Dixon began. "So, because of that I'm forever grateful for Winnipeg having me here and to now be in here in camp, I get emotional just being here.
"I'm so happy. A year ago, I definitely didn't know what I would be doing. I really feel comfortable and at home here."
Now, to fully comprehend Dixon's appreciation of this shot with the Blue Bombers it's necessary to rewind and visit the stops along his road travelled.
A 6-4, 262-pound defensive end, Dixon was a star during his days at Norfolk State (2017-21) and after a senior season which saw him earn All-MEAC (Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference) honours after leading the conference in sacks with nine and adding 12.5 tackles for a loss, he parlayed that into a shot with the Jacksonville Jaguars as an undrafted free agent.
He cracked the Jags roster in 2022 and suited up for three games as a rookie. It was in August of 2024 that Dixon suffered a torn ACL, the injury only further punctuated by this comment from then head coach Doug Pederson: "He was having a good camp, too. It's unfortunate, hate it for him."
What happened next was a long, arduous trek just to get healthy again, let alone another opportunity. He worked at a Planet Fitness in the Newport News area, coached elementary-aged kids in basketball and football and was certainly present around the Norfolk State football practices.
Still, the game had suddenly been taken away from him and that ain't easy.
"That was a rough time," Dixon admitted. "Not just physically, but mentally as well. I went through a lot of stuff last year and then it was about bouncing back. I always wanted to play football; it's always been my first love.
"I was trying to find my purpose again. I knew I would still have football; I just didn't know when."
'When' turned out to be last fall during the practice roster expansion when the Blue Bombers brought Dixon to Winnipeg. And while he didn't see any game action, he certainly made a favourable impression.
This from head coach Mike O'Shea:
"You can rewind the practice tape from back then and watch that guy at that size running by people all over the field and playing special teams and it's just hard to imagine a guy at that size moving that well."
Watch Dixon at work and there's an obvious joy that comes from his every movement on the field. His game is a mix of explosiveness and strength. And there's an obvious passion at play, too, because this is the opportunity Dixon craved all during his rehab and the uncertainty that comes with it.
"Back when I was coaching and watching those kids practice it made me think, 'I can't be done yet. I really can't be done yet,'" he said. "So, when Winnipeg gave me this opportunity, I knew this was my chance to show them I've still got juice left, show them that my injury is not holding me back, show them I've still got a lot left in me. I know I've got the fire in me.
"I haven't proven myself to anyone yet. So, this is my opportunity. If God gives me this last chance, I'm going to take full advantage of it."
The Blue Bombers do have some room on their defensive line, even with the addition of long-time CFL veteran Jake Ceresna. Dixon will be in a fight with Kydran Jenkins, who played so well in his regular season debut last October, and does have the size and skillset to play both end and tackle.
His biggest strength, outside of the obvious physical gifts, might just be this: he's hungry, starving even, after having the game snatched away from him for a couple of years.
"Playing football, especially at a level like this, is a once in a lifetime opportunity. You can't let those opportunities pass," he said. "When I was working... it's just not the same as it is when you're around teammates or putting the pads on and heading out to the field. It's hard to explain. It's just a whole different feeling. I don't want to have those moments where it's, 'I wish I had done this; I wish I had done that.'
"Whatever my body has got left, let's leave it all on the field. After that we'll do the 'what's next?' question. Right now, I'm in the present and living in the moment and embracing every day here."
NEXT: Blue Bombers rookie camp wraps up Friday at Princess Auto Stadium with the session scheduled to run from 10:15 a.m.-12:30 p.m. All practices are open to the public.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2026/05/07/blue-bombers-rookie-camp-day-2/
I appreciate these articles. I wish Ed would have someone report on what's happening on the field though.
Dixon was a guy i liked on my jags, very excited to see what he can do here.
Quote from: kkc60 on May 08, 2026, 11:36:27 AMDixon was a guy i liked on my jags, very excited to see what he can do here.
Tell us more about his strengths!
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 08, 2026, 11:55:16 AMTell us more about his strengths!
The article mentions he has the ability to play both inside and outside. That would suggest a combination of size, strength and speed. In our defence we like players that are that versatile, so he may be a keeper on the PR at the least. Learning the CFL game but still be an adjustment.
The Blue Bombers do have some room on their defensive line, even with the addition of long-time CFL veteran Jake Ceresna. Dixon will be in a fight with Kydran Jenkins, who played so well in his regular season debut last October, and does have the size and skillset to play both end and tackle.
After 13 long years, finally back at a Bombers practice. :D
Quote from: gobombersgo on May 08, 2026, 07:32:43 PM
Not hard to see what they like about Daniels, he has a great attitude. Hoping Condell can make him a useful part of the offence, thinking about the RedBlack offence the past 2 seasons leaves almost no impression. They had a few good receivers and had to rely on Crum way too much, that's about it.
At 6'6" and 270 lbs, he's a monster of a receiver and should help with our pass-pro and run blocking for sure and with Tommy Nield as a 6'3" SB, our recieving corps will be alot more physical than last years
Quote from: DCM on May 08, 2026, 03:12:31 PMAfter 13 long years, finally back at a Bombers practice. :D
Any updates from the Practice ?
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 08, 2026, 12:59:37 PMThe article mentions he has the ability to play both inside and outside. That would suggest a combination of size, strength and speed. In our defence we like players that are that versatile, so he may be a keeper on the PR at the least. Learning the CFL game but still be an adjustment.
The Blue Bombers do have some room on their defensive line, even with the addition of long-time CFL veteran Jake Ceresna. Dixon will be in a fight with Kydran Jenkins, who played so well in his regular season debut last October, and does have the size and skillset to play both end and tackle.
Jenkins will have the advantage of more trust from the Bomber brass and a better understanding of our playbook, communication and connection with players / coaches from last year, that said on paper he sounds good.
Thanks for the info and agree guys that are versatile are key, especially with our defensive system and heavy rotation
Tepee sheer lack of reporting on what is an actually taking place at camp is pure lunacy.
Ed Tate does nothing offer player refections and goals nothing camp performance related.
The club lacks in this area now and has been for years.
Irving and Turner used to report on the going's on day in day out.
Now nothing.
I'm gonna try and get out Sunday if the weather is decent.
Quote from: BBFANDM on May 08, 2026, 10:18:42 PMAny updates from the Practice ?
Was mostly in the moment watching everything going on. If I remember the number right, Britton bumped into the goal post during the route looking back at the pass, was fine.
Tairiq Stewart had a moment, got absolutely lit up and thrown down instantly, didn't catch the defensive number. Vocally upset at the result afterwards.
Watching Lidster doing his kicks. Looked like he kicked back from 38/41/46/49/53 and 57. Plenty of distance on the first four, 53 was about a quarter up on the middle bar and I'm pretty sure they were made while the 57 was missed just to the left but would have just went over the middle bar if it was going through.
End of practice O v D, Perkins threw a pick straight at Bryan Addison while Thorne right at Michael Dixon to end their drives.
I'm excited at the prospect of Elgersma. Like his size curious to watch his development and hopefully becomes valuable for us this season and becomes the heir apparent.
For QBs:
Collaros
Elgersma
Wilson
Perkins
Thorne
I know Collaros is and think Elgersma is locked. Thorne might be in tough leaving Wilson and Perkins for #3. Could go with Wilson due to his familiarity or decide they've seen enough and run with Perkins instead. We'll see.
Overall was just fun being able to get to see practice again.
Quote from: DCM on May 09, 2026, 02:47:08 AMI know Collaros is and think Elgersma is locked. Thorne might be in tough leaving Wilson and Perkins for #3. Could go with Wilson due to his familiarity or decide they've seen enough and run with Perkins instead. We'll see.
Perkins seems smart enough and is saying all the right things. He looks like he has a fresh energy that Wilson has always lacked. Even if Wilson wins out because he can do SY
and carry the O in week 1 if Zach goes IR, I'd like it if they could keep Perkins around on PR or something.
Blue Bombers Rookie Camp WrapEd Tait
@EdTaitWFC
Winnipeg Blue Bombers training camp unfolds like a riveting reality series in two distinct chunks:
First comes the preliminary round which features rookies, draft picks or still green banana-types who had a brief look-see the year before. And then the main training camp where the auditions have some very-real consequences before the roster is pieced together.
There are close to 110 players currently listed on the roster and that number must be quickly shaved to 85 — excluding 'non-counters' like 2026 CFL Canadian Draft picks and junior players — by midnight Saturday, with the next round of cuts coming as soon as next Tuesday when the team must be down to 75.
The final cuts will come after the Blue Bombers second preseason game here at home on May 29th vs. the B.C. Lions.
Blue Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea said the goals of rookie camp are multi-dimensional, but the main items on the to-do list are to have a quick introduction to everyone on and off the field and then get the new charges ready for what is about to come.
"You really want to give them a tasted of everything they're going to go through," O'Shea stated Friday. "Give them a start to the playbook so that those first two or three days (of main camp) they know what they're supposed to do and how they're supposed to do it so they can actually compete.
"Without a rookie camp it would be really hard for guys to step in and show what they can really do without the comfort of a few days of getting acclimated."
With rookie camp coming to a close early Friday afternoon and here are some initial takeaways, in no particular order...
THE QUARTERBACKSAll the quarterbacks in camp — veteran Zach Collaros, returnee Terry Wilson along with Taylor Elgersma, Bryce Perkins and Payton Thorne, plus Cole Anseeuw of the University of Manitoba, who is here as part of the CFL's QB Internship Program — were on the field over the last three days.
Collaros' work was limited and that will change dramatically on Sunday as he gets comfortable operating in new offensive coordinator Tommy Condell's scheme.
Of the remaining pivots, each had their moments although it's Elgersma that popped from this perch because of his size, arm strength and comfort at the controls. And, yes, everyone's eyes are drawn to him as well because he is Canadian and entered camp with already a ton of hype.
"I've seen him face-to-face for less than a week," said O'Shea when asked specifically about Elgersma. "But it seems like a really good quarterback room and it's going to be a lot of fun through camp. I know he's serious about competing and putting his best foot forward. We picked him (in last year's draft) because we knew he was quite capable."
The QBs are always under the microscope — that's not new — but who separates from the pack behind Collaros will be one of the main storylines through every practice and the two preseason games.
TALENT-HEAVY POSITION GROUPSWe'll get a truer read of this when all the vets are on the field on Sunday, but the collection of talent along the offensive and defensive line and in the secondary is particularly impressive. That's not to diminish the other position groups, but there are going to be some tough decisions to make along the line of scrimmage and in the one cornerback vacancy in the secondary.
Of note, the new cornerbacks vying for the spot opposite newcomer Jonathan Moxey include Major Williams, Jordan Taylor, Ridge Texada and Robert Javier.
Williams, FYI, was scouted by Blue Bombers Assistant GM Jim Jauch last summer during the Kansas City Chiefs training camp and was brought into Winnipeg last fall for a look during the practice roster expansion period.
"Being around the vets last year, the guys who built this program to what it's been over the last few years, those guys really helped me with everything," Williams said. "That gave me the background knowledge of what was going to happen in this rookie camp and it was a blessing. I did a lot of studying over the offseason and I did a lot of research. I'm new to the game — the Canadian game is very unique — so I had to learn the movement, the Waggle, the formations, the pre-snap indicators.
"It's a very different game and you can't really play man-to-man like they do (down south). You've got to know where your help is. I put all that in my head so that this wasn't all new to me. When I first came here I was mostly at corner but now I'm inside, outside, corner, safety. Now I know what everyone is doing and it's helped me play faster."
There's a ton of talent along the offensive line, too, further pushing the narrative of potentially changing the ratio up front by playing three Americans instead of two.
And what's jumping out along the D-line is the size and speed of the newcomers, including Kydran Jenkins and Kemari Munier-Bailey — both of whom played in last year's regular season finale — along with De'Shaan Dixon and big D-tackle Arnold Young (6-3, 297).
GOOD FIRST IMPRESSIONThe Blue Bombers selected defensive end Nuer Gatkuoth fourth overall in last week's CFL Canadian Draft and he's participating in Denver Broncos minicamp through Sunday.
The club's next pick — big tight end Dante Daniels — popped out in Blue Bombers rookie camp not just because of his size, but because of his hands and his versatile skillset.
And the coaches love his approach.
"Listen, he put his hand up and said, 'You need a snapper, I'll snap. I haven't done it in a game but I've practised it before' and he goes down there not knowing the calls, not knowing whatever and basically is stepping up and putting himself in a position that is probably uncomfortable," said O'Shea. "He's that kind of kid."
He's also described himself a couple of times as a nice guy on the field and a 'dickhead' on it.
Check out his interview from post-practice today:
NEXT: The Blue Bombers will have medicals and in-house meetings on Saturday before returning to the field Sunday morning for the official opening of main training camp with the session running from 9-11:40 a.m. at Princess Auto Stadium and open to the public.
Elgersma is hype so far... whether he sticks is another story.
Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on May 09, 2026, 08:22:50 AMElgersma is hype so far... whether he sticks is another story.
I'll put money on that he sticks
O'Shea is usually the last to announce rookie camp cuts so we might not hear until tomorrow? Anyway if anybody hears anything, let us know.
May 9, 2026 (11:59 p.m. local): Rosters must be reduced to 85 players, excluding non-counters.
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 09, 2026, 01:26:18 PMI'll put money on that he sticks
I don't believe there is any chance he's released. He might be one of the players listed on the 2 man reserve so he can't be scooped elsewhere?
Whether he can actually beat out the other candidates as # 2 or # 3 we'll see in the main TC.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 09, 2026, 02:44:23 AMTepee sheer lack of reporting on what is an actually taking place at camp is pure lunacy.
Ed Tate does nothing offer player refections and goals nothing camp performance related.
The club lacks in this area now and has been for years.
Irving and Turner used to report on the going's on day in day out.
Now nothing.
No kidding, I'm reading updates from whatever off season/mini-camp thing the NFL is doing right now and it's night and day. And I know it's the NFL. But what I'm reading on twitter is just a daily update from the Bengals version of Ed Tait. He does 5 thoughts from each day of camp. It's really interesting.
And it's exactly what I used to be able to read in the freep and sun on a daily basis in the min-2000s.
We need an entrepreneur with a decent mobile phone and a step-ladder to park themselves on the sidelines during practice, shoot some video, and post it with some commentary on YouTube. Reporting on Bomber practices is a void calling out to be filled. Could catch on - at least with the diehard fans who follow this board. ;)
Still think it is Zach, Perkins, Elgersma.
Perkins has enough pedigree to leapfrog Wilson, unless he stinks and Wilson shines. The OC change reduces the veteran advantage that Wilson brings.
Elgersma has already impressed with his size and arm, if he picks up SY quickly, his QB3 spot is sewn up with his passport.
Thorne may hang around on the PR. Wilson will move on if not on the AR.
Interesting roster listing. I've never seen "POS" intentionally left blank.
NO NAME POS A/N/G HT WT AGE COLLEGE
73 DANIELS, Dante N 6'5 272 24 North Carolina State
Quote from: Doublezero on May 09, 2026, 03:11:33 PMWe need an entrepreneur with a decent mobile phone and a step-ladder to park themselves on the sidelines during practice, shoot some video, and post it with some commentary on YouTube. Reporting on Bomber practices is a void calling out to be filled. Could catch on - at least with the diehard fans who follow this board. ;)
I've been asked to put my phone away when taking pictures at practice, lol.
Quote from: Jesse on May 09, 2026, 02:41:10 PMNo kidding, I'm reading updates from whatever off season/mini-camp thing the NFL is doing right now and it's night and day. And I know it's the NFL. But what I'm reading on twitter is just a daily update from the Bengals version of Ed Tait. He does 5 thoughts from each day of camp. It's really interesting.
And it's exactly what I used to be able to read in the freep and sun on a daily basis in the min-2000s.
Not even seeing much reporting from Derek Taylor, he's more than capable of sharing his opinion. What does Doug Brown do when when he's not doing colour for CJOB? Surely that's not his only job...
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 09, 2026, 05:17:26 PMNot even seeing much reporting from Derek Taylor, he's more than capable of sharing his opinion. What does Doug Brown do when when he's not doing colour for CJOB? Surely that's not his only job...
He's a sales manager for a medical technology company.
I'm hoping Elgersma does well, and has a successful career as a qb in the CFL.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 09, 2026, 05:17:26 PMNot even seeing much reporting from Derek Taylor, he's more than capable of sharing his opinion. What does Doug Brown do when when he's not doing colour for CJOB? Surely that's not his only job...
He throws a few tweets up. And it's exactly what I want to see, I just wish there was more of it.
Quote from: Jesse on May 09, 2026, 07:35:43 PMHe throws a few tweets up. And it's exactly what I want to see, I just wish there was more of it.
John Hodge is based in Wpg. and probably attends every Bomber practice, but he may have too much on his plate as a main contributor to 3DN, everything he does is channeled through that outlet.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 09, 2026, 07:56:07 PMJohn Hodge is based in Wpg. and probably attends every Bomber practice, but he may have too much on his plate as a main contributor to 3DN, everything he does is channeled through that outlet.
I dont think he attends all the practices.
@DTonOB who else besides yourself attends the practices regularly.
I believe alot of the media show up at the end of practices to interview players and attend O'Shea's press conferences.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 09, 2026, 07:56:07 PMJohn Hodge is based in Wpg. and probably attends every Bomber practice, but he may have too much on his plate as a main contributor to 3DN, everything he does is channeled through that outlet.
He obviously has a job that doesn't allow him to sit through practices every day.
You need reporters who are working on a salary to commit the time. But so many just come for the interview clips at the end and write stories based on those.
Quote from: Jesse on May 09, 2026, 08:04:09 PMHe obviously has a job that doesn't allow him to sit through practices every day.
You need reporters who are working on a salary to commit the time. But so many just come for the interview clips at the end and write stories based on those.
Pretty sure Hodge is full time at 3DN now, between the 3 main guys they put out a ton of content.
Speaking of which in the same video Dunk and Hodge talk extensively about the Bomber QB room starting at 28:55.
Gone are the days of Ted Wyman, Jeff Hamilton, Sara Orlesky & Bob Irving where it seemed like it was a race to tweet about big plays at camp & practice.
I have talked with JC Abbott a number of times and he has stated that at least one of the three main 3DN guys has to be stationed at home monitoring the feeds just in case something newsworthy happens.
JC himself doesn't see much value in attending practices and he often takes a good natured ribbing from Farhan about it.
As for Hodge, he likes to make sure his followers know when he is actually at practice, which is rare.
Darrin Bauming usually goes to one practice a week to get some sound bites for his podcasts.
Taylor Allen (Free Press) & Paul Friesen (Sun) have been putting out some material. I don't recall the new Winnipeg TSN personality reporting at all on the Blue Bombers since she showed up last fall.
I've been to quite a few training camp practices over the last 3 years. There are usually 4 or 5 media guys sitting at the top of the viewing area, kibbutzing around and watching the practices. I went on Thursday and none of them were in their usual spot. I think it's just a bit early - how much effort is warranted for rookie camp? I'd be surprised if a bunch of them aren't there next week.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 09, 2026, 03:28:02 PMStill think it is Zach, Perkins, Elgersma.
Almost impossible. If Zach gets injured week 1 halfway through the game with one of his "neck/head" things that lasts 2 games... what do you do?
Perkins would flounder with zero 3down / CFL-D-reading experience. Elgersma: well, you'd have to hope he's not on the next Rourke, but better than the next Rourke -- starter ready in first 2 weeks of pro career.
AND that would assume big Elgersma shows he can 95% sneak from day 1.
So I think Wilson's job is safe -- he can do both. SY is 95%-ish, and he showed in the '24 GC he's not completely without ability to read a D and make a pass.
The problem is, Wilson probably isn't our "future". Perkins or Elgersma could be. It's a tough battle/compromise between good-now and good-future.
My guess is Perkins gets the boot but is the first one dialed up if one of our 3 keepers gets injured.
The short clips WFC is posting to youtube with BTS from camp are really nice. Lions have been doing this for a few years now. I think this is the first time we're getting more insights into the seemingly-banal process. I like it! More of those please.
Quote from: Tecno on May 10, 2026, 04:21:37 AMAlmost impossible. If Zach gets injured week 1 halfway through the game with one of his "neck/head" things that lasts 2 games... what do you do?
Perkins would flounder with zero 3down / CFL-D-reading experience. Elgersma: well, you'd have to hope he's not on the next Rourke, but better than the next Rourke -- starter ready in first 2 weeks of pro career.
AND that would assume big Elgersma shows he can 95% sneak from day 1.
So I think Wilson's job is safe -- he can do both. SY is 95%-ish, and he showed in the '24 GC he's not completely without ability to read a D and make a pass.
The problem is, Wilson probably isn't our "future". Perkins or Elgersma could be. It's a tough battle/compromise between good-now and good-future.
My guess is Perkins gets the boot but is the first one dialed up if one of our 3 keepers gets injured.
If Zach goes down, then we fly Wilson (or any CFL vet) back in. As you said - he's not the future.
Besides, while Wilson knows CFL a bit better, Perkins has actually played meaningful games over the past 2 years.
You can't keep Wilson over Perkins if Perkins is the better QB, just because of insurance.
What's chances that our 4th qb takes a PR spot. I don't think its very good.
This battle at Qb will be one for ages.
Anyone think someone would scoop our #4?
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 10, 2026, 02:11:16 PMWhat's chances that our 4th qb takes a PR spot. I don't think its very good.
This battle at Qb will be one for ages.
Anyone think someone would scoop our #4?
Perkins or Thorne might but we don't usually do that with limited PR spots. Every other team has their own # 4 or # 5 that they have to deal with plus their neg list.
QB's cut after TC rarely land elsewhere unless they have som CFL experience. In the case of the Bombers that might be Wilson. OTOH, we might see our reserve list used as early insurance for Elgersma or Wilson.
It's depends on where they rank after TC and that's all guesswork at the moment. I guess the fate of Wilson decides the pecking order to some degree. He could end up anywhere from # 2 to released outright. I'm not dissing him but, if he isn't moving up then I suspect he's moving out.
So we made our 1st cuts after rookie camp. No real surprise but Johnny Hodges was listed as a player to watch and he's the 1st LB to go.
Two DB's placed on suspended list which I take as " no shows " to rookie camp? Always a couple of those each year.
Novak to injured veteran list and I'm not quite sure what the means. Other teams adding some directly to 6 game IR. So does that mean Novak might be available sooner or is it just a delay in doing that?
Have we made all the cuts necessary? I expected a few more. Regardless a few won't last more than a couple of days in the main TC and a few new bodies will be brought in.
EDIT: CFL.CA shows Battle ( DB ) and Mayes ( WR ) transferred to retired.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 10, 2026, 02:21:12 PMPerkins or Thorne might but we don't usually do that with limited PR spots. Every other team has their own # 4 or # 5 that they have to deal with plus their neg list.
QB's cut after TC rarely land elsewhere unless they have som CFL experience. In the case of the Bombers that might be Wilson. OTOH, we might see our reserve list used as early insurance for Elgersma or Wilson.
It's depends on where they rank after TC and that's all guesswork at the moment. I guess the fate of Wilson decides the pecking order to some degree. He could end up anywhere from # 2 to released outright. I'm not dissing him but, if he isn't moving up then I suspect he's moving out.
Sask. often holds onto 4 QB's but not many other teams do, might be wise for the Bombers to keep #4 on the PR this season if they show more promise than Wilson, but so far reviews have not been glowing.
Totally disagree with discarding Terry Wilson early, he's their only reasonable backup right now and he hasn't been given enough rope to hang himself. Maybe by mid-season they'll be more secure in making that decision but hope it's based on real performance evaluation were each candidate gets a fair chance to illustrate their skill. Hoping Condell brings a big upgrade in QB development as the Bombers have been abysmal at it for decades.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 10, 2026, 02:24:54 PMNovak to injured veteran list and I'm not quite sure what the means. Other teams adding some directly to 6 game IR. So does that mean Novak might be available sooner or is it just a delay in doing that?
Teams can place up to 2 players on the 'injured veteran' list in training camp. Those players are essentially non-counters now. The trade off is an injured veteran cannot participate in training camp practices and must miss the opening game of the regular season.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 10, 2026, 05:12:40 PMTeams can place up to 2 players on the 'injured veteran' list in training camp. Those players are essentially non-counters now. The trade off is an injured veteran cannot participate in training camp practices and must miss the opening game of the regular season.
Well missing 1 game is preferable to seeing a player hit the 6 game IR right off the bat. So in the case of Novak that might be encouraging that he'll be back sooner than later. Having them now as non counters helps the roster shuffling math.
Thanks for the explanation.
I disagree with the notion that we need Terry Wilson on the roster because the other options have no CFL experience.
Terry Wilson's last professional start was in the USFL back in 2021. That's also his only pro start. He has thrown a total of 39 in-game passes in the pros.
Bryce Perkins's last professional start was in 2025 and he's thrown a total of 290 passes in the pros. Last season he also took Michigan to the playoffs and won MVP of that league. He's also just one year older than Wilson.
I don't know that Bryce is the answer, but I'd keep an open mind with this QB room!
Not sure Wilson is available to "fly in" if cut. Perkins either.
If Wilson wows in camp and wins the 2nd spot outright, Perkins might accept a PR spot, but with his pedigree, if he even is passable in camp, he could get picked up. But to keep Wilson due to his tenure with the team when he has played under 2 different OC's, Condell being his third. So, he has zero knowledge advantage of the system, and has limited familiarity with the receivers/RB, and even the OLine is significantly different.
Thorne, if he adapts to 3 downs well, could land the PR spot.
The question drops to:
Can Elgersma, with his career in the 3 down game, step in in the case of injury early in the season? Can Perkins show enough to be an injury replacement in training?
Could start the year with ZC8, TE13, BP9 and have Perkins earn his way to QB2?
Not discounting Wilson and his history with the team, and his SY play, but his lack of seizing the QB2 spot in then past brings his ability to do it now, and progress into QB1 into doubt.
If Wilson doesn't nail down QB2 in camp, I'd much rather go forward with Perkins and Elgersma, who both seem to have much higher ceilings.
Condell, as OC and QB coach will have no loyalties to Wilson, and only his own success to base his decisions on.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 10, 2026, 06:10:24 PMNot sure Wilson is available to "fly in" if cut. Perkins either.
If Wilson wows in camp and wins the 2nd spot outright, Perkins might accept a PR spot, but with his pedigree, if he even is passable in camp, he could get picked up. But to keep Wilson due to his tenure with the team when he has played under 2 different OC's, Condell being his third. So, he has zero knowledge advantage of the system, and has limited familiarity with the receivers/RB, and even the OLine is significantly different.
Thorne, if he adapts to 3 downs well, could land the PR spot.
The question drops to:
Can Elgersma, with his career in the 3 down game, step in in the case of injury early in the season? Can Perkins show enough to be an injury replacement in training?
Could start the year with ZC8, TE13, BP9 and have Perkins earn his way to QB2?
Not discounting Wilson and his history with the team, and his SY play, but his lack of seizing the QB2 spot in then past brings his ability to do it now, and progress into QB1 into doubt.
If Wilson doesn't nail down QB2 in camp, I'd much rather go forward with Perkins and Elgersma, who both seem to have much higher ceilings.
Condell, as OC and QB coach will have no loyalties to Wilson, and only his own success to base his decisions on.
That's about the size of it. Wilson needs to move up to # 2 or move out to a QB with greater potential. Obviously we don't know much about Perkins or Thorne. Neither may make the roster in any way for all we know at the moment.
Keeping Wilson just as the SY QB is not valuable enough to do that IMO. Can he show progression? Perhaps. TBD.
Quote from: LXTSN on May 10, 2026, 05:58:19 PMI disagree with the notion that we need Terry Wilson on the roster because the other options have no CFL experience.
Terry Wilson's last professional start was in the USFL back in 2021. That's also his only pro start. He has thrown a total of 39 in-game passes in the pros.
Bryce Perkins's last professional start was in 2025 and he's thrown a total of 290 passes in the pros. Last season he also took Michigan to the playoffs and won MVP of that league. He's also just one year older than Wilson.
I don't know that Bryce is the answer, but I'd keep an open mind with this QB room!
I agree. And this is what Walters talked about in the off season. Don't walk into camp with certain guys penciled in because they've been there before. Let the best player play.
Some really good info and opinions here, I tough but good spot to be in. The trouble with pre season is that it does show a lot but its also such a different beast than regular. We shall see how these next gen Qbs fair and will only know more once they get some meaningful live regular season reps. I hope we are patient in developing our next QB. Having Zach mentor you is a dream come true imo.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 10, 2026, 02:21:12 PMPerkins or Thorne might but we don't usually do that with limited PR spots. Every other team has their own # 4 or # 5 that they have to deal with plus their neg list.
QB's cut after TC rarely land elsewhere unless they have som CFL experience. In the case of the Bombers that might be Wilson. OTOH, we might see our reserve list used as early insurance for Elgersma or Wilson.
It's depends on where they rank after TC and that's all guesswork at the moment. I guess the fate of Wilson decides the pecking order to some degree. He could end up anywhere from # 2 to released outright. I'm not dissing him but, if he isn't moving up then I suspect he's moving out.
i really think we need to start keeping a QB on the PR. Its the most important position on the team and you want your backup to the backup to the backup to be able to step in semi-comfidently
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 10, 2026, 06:22:42 PMThat's about the size of it. Wilson needs to move up to # 2 or move out to a QB with greater potential. Obviously we don't know much about Perkins or Thorne. Neither may make the roster in any way for all we know at the moment.
Keeping Wilson just as the SY QB is not valuable enough to do that IMO. Can he show progression? Perhaps. TBD.
Wilson isn't even that good of a SY QB. Elgersma should have that job, Perkins is QB2. Thorne should be PR'd, but he won't be (foolishly the team doesn't seem to want to use a PR spot on a QB).
Blue Bombers had Chase Artopoeus on the practice roster as QB4 in 2025. I got the feeling that Eric Barriere was offered a PR spot in 2024 but he refused. At the end of the day, a player has to accept a spot on the PR.
Perkins has a lot more pro experience than Elgersma, but Elgersma has a lot more 3 down experience. In his media time, he mentioned that down south, he had to forget his 3 down training, and now, he's back to what he is used to.
Does that give him a slight advantage starting out? Maybe. But Perkins is an exciting option. He has a superbowl ring, he has a UFL MVP. And he is excited about the CFL, dis-illusioned by the UFL's present/future, looking to an established league and team here.
If these two can duke it out for QB2/QB3, bringing such different skillsets, and learning behind Collaros, we could be pretty set going forward.
The "Qb's through the years" graph that was posted makes a stark difference between 2010-2015 QB rooms, and the more recent ones. I remember the hopes that we put into Goltz, Marve, Willy, Brink... with none of them fulfilling their promise. I have a much different feeling about Perkins and Elgersma behind Matt. And having a veteran OC to chart their games, and the stability of the organization around them, I like the future behind C.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 11, 2026, 05:22:27 PMPerkins has a lot more pro experience than Elgersma, but Elgersma has a lot more 3 down experience. In his media time, he mentioned that down south, he had to forget his 3 down training, and now, he's back to what he is used to.
Does that give him a slight advantage starting out? Maybe. But Perkins is an exciting option. He has a superbowl ring, he has a UFL MVP. And he is excited about the CFL, dis-illusioned by the UFL's present/future, looking to an established league and team here.
If these two can duke it out for QB2/QB3, bringing such different skillsets, and learning behind Collaros, we could be pretty set going forward.
The "Qb's through the years" graph that was posted makes a stark difference between 2010-2015 QB rooms, and the more recent ones. I remember the hopes that we put into Goltz, Marve, Willy, Brink... with none of them fulfilling their promise. I have a much different feeling about Perkins and Elgersma behind Matt. And having a veteran OC to chart their games, and the stability of the organization around them, I like the future behind C.
For sure. There's room for both of them on the roster and realistically if Collaros goes down we probably are forced to platoon them anyway as neither will likely to ready to be a full time starter from week 1. I'm kinda writing off Terry Wilson at this point but who knows.
I really wanted Wilson to get more reps in live games over the last two years, especially knowing that Streveler was never to be the long term plan at QB1.
That said, Wilson never took the spot from Streveler, and there was a reason. His time with the team has been OK, but he has no extra knowledge of the Condell system than Perkins or Elgersma, so that is not a factor.
Having established his play over 3 years gives us a good idea of ceiling. QB2 or 3 needs as much ceiling as possible. Perkins and Elgersma have not set their CFL ceiling.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 11, 2026, 06:17:14 PMI really wanted Wilson to get more reps in live games over the last two years, especially knowing that Streveler was never to be the long term plan at QB1.
That said, Wilson never took the spot from Streveler, and there was a reason. His time with the team has been OK, but he has no extra knowledge of the Condell system than Perkins or Elgersma, so that is not a factor.
Having established his play over 3 years gives us a good idea of ceiling. QB2 or 3 needs as much ceiling as possible. Perkins and Elgersma have not set their CFL ceiling.
Fair to say Streveler was given the #2 job upon re-signing in 2024, his personality and popularity alone was enough to win the job. For such a short career he made an huge impact, in the world of ticket sales it did not matter whether he was the most talented #2 QB or not, he was by far the most popular choice.
Terry Wilson is still mostly a blank slate, in the back of his mind he must sense he's at the crossroads, his chance is now or never.
Winnipeg Blue Bombers have posted pictures from rookie camp
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After already about 5 years of these Gaudian caps, I think I'm starting to finally get used to them.
For Wilson to be cut he has to be beaten out in 2 spots.
1. Someone has to show they can do SY at ~95%+ (possibly Elgersma?)
2. Someone has to show they can read a CFL D and execute the playbook and make completions (rookie camp whispers say this isn't Perkins)
#1 is the easier ask. Often just being tough & twitchy (& big) is enough. #2 usually only occurs later in season 2, or 3 or even 4. Perkins almost certainly can't do it this quickly. Elgersma may, if he's the next Rourke.
The fact he has to be beaten at both jobs to lose out leads me to bet he's not getting cut.
For those who think we need to just move on to the future, you're not thinking of how MOS & KW are thinking when they are planning out possible/likely scenarios for the first 3 home games.
If Zach goes down and you trot out Elgersma or Perkins well before they are ready, and they Brohm out the place... MOS will get pilloried to the hilt on the 'OB with all the "vibrating" listeners. Someone in leadership does not voluntarily put themselves in that position.
I'm no Wilson fan, and he's almost certainly never going to be better than Dom Davis. But he didn't look horrible in the '24 GC (should have left him in). He has a ton of time in the league as of now. If he's going to blossom, the time is now.
And in terms of game theory, if Wilson comes in and stinks, fans will blame Wilson. If Elgersma/Perkins come in and stink, fans will blame MOS.
Quote from: Tecno on May 12, 2026, 03:04:57 AMFor those who think we need to just move on to the future, you're not thinking of how MOS & KW are thinking when they are planning out possible/likely scenarios for the first 3 home games.
If Zach goes down and you trot out Elgersma or Perkins well before they are ready, and they Brohm out the place... MOS will get pilloried to the hilt on the 'OB with all the "vibrating" listeners. Someone in leadership does not voluntarily put themselves in that position.
I'm no Wilson fan, and he's almost certainly never going to be better than Dom Davis. But he didn't look horrible in the '24 GC (should have left him in). He has a ton of time in the league as of now. If he's going to blossom, the time is now.
And in terms of game theory, if Wilson comes in and stinks, fans will blame Wilson. If Elgersma/Perkins come in and stink, fans will blame MOS.
All that said, I think he would need to look significantly better than all the rookies coming in in order to beat them out. If the club didn't trust him last year when Zach was missing games left and right and Strev was a shell of his former self, why is that trust growing in the wake of multiple people brought in to stabilize the position?
Quote from: Tecno on May 12, 2026, 02:58:20 AMFor Wilson to be cut he has to be beaten out in 2 spots.
1. Someone has to show they can do SY at ~95%+ (possibly Elgersma?)
2. Someone has to show they can read a CFL D and execute the playbook and make completions (rookie camp whispers say this isn't Perkins)
#1 is the easier ask. Often just being tough & twitchy (& big) is enough. #2 usually only occurs later in season 2, or 3 or even 4. Perkins almost certainly can't do it this quickly. Elgersma may, if he's the next Rourke.
The fact he has to be beaten at both jobs to lose out leads me to bet he's not getting cut.
But your whole premise is built around "if Zach gets hurt". If Zach gets hurt and will have to miss time, Wilson can easily be flown back. I really don't think any team out there would be circling his name if he's cut.
Now, if Wilson shows he's the better QB then by all means he should be kept. I'm just saying we can't keep him because "if Zach goes down..."
What TC whispers have you heard about Perkins ability to make completions?
Quote from: Tecno on May 12, 2026, 02:58:20 AMFor Wilson to be cut he has to be beaten out in 2 spots.
1. Someone has to show they can do SY at ~95%+ (possibly Elgersma?)
2. Someone has to show they can read a CFL D and execute the playbook and make completions (rookie camp whispers say this isn't Perkins)
#1 is the easier ask. Often just being tough & twitchy (& big) is enough. #2 usually only occurs later in season 2, or 3 or even 4. Perkins almost certainly can't do it this quickly. Elgersma may, if he's the next Rourke.
The fact he has to be beaten at both jobs to lose out leads me to bet he's not getting cut.
For Wilson to not get cut, he has to have improved over previous seasons.
SY might actually be out of the QB conversation, I would not be surprised if DD73 doesn't end up running SY offence. They have him doing everything else.
Perkins isn't here to read defences day one in a new league. He's here because he has the tools and has shown the ability to compete at a top level, and has experience. He could read UFL and NFL D, he will get a break on reading CFL D fully in week one. But he will need to show he has the ability to understand the concepts Condell is using, and the way CFL D is deployed. Reading that D instinctively is something that will take time, for sure, but he won't accomplish that on the PR or being cut. His ceiling and his ability to progress early can be enough to surpass Wilson.
Elgersma is on the team, as QB2 or QB3. His upside and passport are too tasty to let him just leave.
So hile there are 2 QB positions open, Wilson has to show that he's a leg up on Perkins if he wants to stay.
Quote from: Jesse on May 12, 2026, 11:23:14 AMAll that said, I think he would need to look significantly better than all the rookies coming in in order to beat them out. If the club didn't trust him last year when Zach was missing games left and right and Strev was a shell of his former self, why is that trust growing in the wake of multiple people brought in to stabilize the position?
Might have happened if Strev. lost games, but miraculously he didn't.
Wilson would do fine as the SY QB, he can be elusive and the drag on Elgersma is he's not very mobile, which might suggest the next Drew Willy. I'm not even going to learn the new QB's names unless they play well in pre-season, seen a million come, seen a million go...."You're who, from where???"
Roster shows two players no. 17
Dorian Singer... receiver
Jordan Taylor... db
Re photos
Quote from: markf on May 12, 2026, 04:53:30 PMRoster shows two players no. 17
Dorian Singer... receiver
Jordan Taylor... db
Re photos
It is common for teams to have multiple players wearing the same numbers at training camp. It is usually one player on offence and the other on defence.
For Winnipeg in 2026 it is:
4 - QB Payton, Thorne & DB Alijah McGhee
13 - QB Taylor Elgersma & DB Bryan Addison
17 - WR Dorian Singer & DB Jordan Taylor
22 - RB Matthew Peterson & DB Warren Burrell
35 - RB Stevie Rocker & DL Kemari Munier-Bailey
36 - K/P Brady Lidster & DB Robert Javier
50 - OL Iwinosa Uwubanmwen & DE Antoineo Harris
52 - OL Tariq Stewart & LB Charles-Elliot Bouliane
54 - OL Micah Muzzccua & DL Kydran Jenkins
58 - OL Hunter Poncius & DL David Reese
59 - OL Joseph More & LB Brody Clark
Also in rookie camp
51 - OL Zovon Lindsay & LB Johnny Hodges
Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 12, 2026, 07:24:23 PMIt is common for teams to have multiple players wearing the same numbers at training camp. It is usually one player on offence and the other on defence.
Thanks!
Quote from: theaardvark on May 12, 2026, 04:10:46 PMFor Wilson to not get cut, he has to have improved over previous seasons.
SY might actually be out of the QB conversation, I would not be surprised if DD73 doesn't end up running SY offence. They have him doing everything else.
Perkins isn't here to read defences day one in a new league. He's here because he has the tools and has shown the ability to compete at a top level, and has experience. He could read UFL and NFL D, he will get a break on reading CFL D fully in week one. But he will need to show he has the ability to understand the concepts Condell is using, and the way CFL D is deployed. Reading that D instinctively is something that will take time, for sure, but he won't accomplish that on the PR or being cut. His ceiling and his ability to progress early can be enough to surpass Wilson.
Elgersma is on the team, as QB2 or QB3. His upside and passport are too tasty to let him just leave.
So hile there are 2 QB positions open, Wilson has to show that he's a leg up on Perkins if he wants to stay.
agree, if he hasnt gotten better then basically we've seen his limit which isn't great, at least the other two have room to grow. As far as Perkins he seems a lot like Streveler with a average arm, but great wheels and instincts when to run
Quote from: theaardvark on May 12, 2026, 04:10:46 PMElgersma is on the team, as QB2 or QB3. His upside and passport are too tasty to let him just leave.
QB passport doesn't help you at all unless he's on the field. No help at all on the 45 man AR ratio. So, yes, it's something, but it's not much until he's starting.
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2026, 11:43:45 AMBut your whole premise is built around "if Zach gets hurt". If Zach gets hurt and will have to miss time, Wilson can easily be flown back.
I agree Wilson likely rots on the couch. But who's to say he'll answer the phone after we dis him? Who's to say his agent doesn't ask for $400k from a desperate no-other-choice team?
Also, if he rots for 6 weeks on the couch, he'll be out of the loop on the new OC plan, and probably out of shape. Also, doesn't help us in the game Zach gets injured in, and if it's Q1 we are in for a world of hurt.
I really should revise my "if Zach gets hurt", to "when Zach gets hurt" because I'm pretty sure every single season here he's done the head/neck 0.5-3.0 game IR thing. This is why I'm convinced Wilson has to stay unless some rookie magically looks like he can carry the team like Strev did in '18. Maybe that's Elgersma... but no one can say yet!
Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 12, 2026, 11:43:45 AMWhat TC whispers have you heard about Perkins ability to make completions?
One of the reports here said something like he was throwing into coverage, bad reads, etc. It was just one minor report. Who knows what you can extrapolate out of it.
Quote from: Tecno on May 13, 2026, 06:52:59 AMOne of the reports here said something like he was throwing into coverage, bad reads, etc. It was just one minor report. Who knows what you can extrapolate out of it.
American QB's need to adjust to the 12th man and all the motion in the wider CFL field.
TE13's passport can come into play in 2 QB sets. And if he is the SY QB, that means an additional Int Olineman/Dlineman can come in...
Quote from: theaardvark on May 13, 2026, 04:07:44 PMTE13's passport can come into play in 2 QB sets. And if he is the SY QB, that means an additional Int Olineman/Dlineman can come in...
Sure but it's not that big a deal if the QB is going to sneak right up the middle. If he was fast and elusive he might break to the outside like Streveler. I don't see that in his tool box with or without additional OL blocking.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 13, 2026, 04:07:44 PMTE13's passport can come into play in 2 QB sets. And if he is the SY QB, that means an additional Int Olineman/Dlineman can come in...
Ya, I thought about that, but we don't dress a spare IMP OL, so I dismissed it, and no IMP REC would have any beef. Back when we had the Seal it would have helped.
But you're right, forgot about DL... we could bring in some DL beef on a heavy SY for the big push. Who's our heaviest DL going to be. Lawson? He's not exactly huge. Too bad we don't have one of those hoggie-size-playing-at-DT guys. Then again, every little big helps.
Quote from: Tecno on May 14, 2026, 03:37:12 AMYa, I thought about that, but we don't dress a spare IMP OL, so I dismissed it, and no IMP REC would have any beef. Back when we had the Seal it would have helped.
But you're right, forgot about DL... we could bring in some DL beef on a heavy SY for the big push. Who's our heaviest DL going to be. Lawson? He's not exactly huge. Too bad we don't have one of those hoggie-size-playing-at-DT guys. Then again, every little big helps.
Schmeck did it last season and he's good at it and Jake helped out for a few years as the submarine man, always ended up at the bottom of the pile and never got injured.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 14, 2026, 04:55:55 AMSchmeck did it last season and he's good at it and Jake helped out for a few years as the submarine man, always ended up at the bottom of the pile and never got injured.
Ya, but I forgot once again... needs to be an IMP to make use of Elgersma's ratio bonus. So basically we can't use that at all until Elgersma is our actual starter.
It's funny, for like 3-4 seasons now we almost never need "ratio help". It's just the way Mafia has structured our team. But if Elgersma is our known/planned starter in, say, 2028, KW can work that into the plan and make sure we have some extra quality IMPs.
Quote from: Tecno on May 14, 2026, 07:11:20 AMYa, but I forgot once again... needs to be an IMP to make use of Elgersma's ratio bonus. So basically we can't use that at all until Elgersma is our actual starter.
It's funny, for like 3-4 seasons now we almost never need "ratio help". It's just the way Mafia has structured our team. But if Elgersma is our known/planned starter in, say, 2028, KW can work that into the plan and make sure we have some extra quality IMPs.
Elgersma's "ratio help" is a bonus.
He's here because he can play. He grew up in three down and excelled. He's not here because of his passport, it is a bonus, especially if he can start one day.
Of all the new QB's in camp, he's the most CFL ready.
If he can't keep up, though, they will move on.
But, for the next 2/3 years, we will see how ho takes to the Pro game.
Quote from: Tecno on May 14, 2026, 07:11:20 AMYa, but I forgot once again... needs to be an IMP to make use of Elgersma's ratio bonus. So basically we can't use that at all until Elgersma is our actual starter.
It's funny, for like 3-4 seasons now we almost never need "ratio help". It's just the way Mafia has structured our team. But if Elgersma is our known/planned starter in, say, 2028, KW can work that into the plan and make sure we have some extra quality IMPs.
QB's are a separate category. Having a Canadian QB as a starter doesn't change the number of imports on the roster. It just gives a different player comprising the mandatory minimum or more of Canadians starting.
So advantage is very limited at best. It's more of a nationalistic advantage.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 14, 2026, 04:14:55 PMQB's are a separate category. Having a Canadian QB as a starter doesn't change the number of imports on the roster. It just gives a different player comprising the mandatory minimum or more of Canadians starting.
That's what I meant. A starting NAT QB means you can instantly dress an extra IMP OL, for example: a la BC. No advantage on the AR, but definite advantage on the field -- IF you have a GM who prioritizes IMP-over-NAT talent (i.e. not KW -- yet).
Quote from: Tecno on May 15, 2026, 01:05:32 AMThat's what I meant. A starting NAT QB means you can instantly dress an extra IMP OL, for example: a la BC. No advantage on the AR, but definite advantage on the field -- IF you have a GM who prioritizes IMP-over-NAT talent (i.e. not KW -- yet).
If you couldn't start an import OL when you didn't have a Canadian QB, then having one won't help or change that math.
It does not mean you dress another import. Which part of the ratio and the maximum number of imports are you missing?
The Bombers may start 3 import OL. If Elgersma starts game 1 due to an injury it won't change that decision on how the roster is put together. The cost of starting a 3rd import OL at the moment is the trade off of starting 3 Canadian receivers.
In your example we might start that 3rd import OL and 2 Canadian receivers if we start a Canadian QB.
You have to start a minimum of Canadians. Where you start imports is a choice. In theory you could start a 5 import OL by starting other Canadians elsewhere.
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