Who got hurt today?
Strev left knee? Is that the same as previously injuried? Likely gone for the year. Good luck buddy!
Punter got knicked but looked ok
Feel so bad for Strev. He gets all the fan disdain, toughs it back from injury, then gets his knee blown up again. Dude can't catch a break. I guess in hindsight he should have left that brace on... but he wanted to be in peak performance for the end of the season.
Now everyone might get their wish that he gets cut. It will be tough to justify a re-sign on a hope he'll be ready by playoffs '26.
But we'll see. There is a chance it's not what it seems.
My son said a bunch of MTL guys got injured. Anyone have a list? That's just as important as WPG injuries, for next week. (I was stuck a very long time dropping off / picking up my daughter at the chaos cheer-parent gate 4.)
Feel bad for Streveler but if it helps the club make the right decision this off season then it is what is.
Quote from: Tecno on October 26, 2025, 01:15:46 AMMy son said a bunch of MTL guys got injured. Anyone have a list? That's just as important as WPG injuries, for next week. (I was stuck a very long time dropping off / picking up my daughter at the chaos cheer-parent gate 4.)
Seen a DL (Johnson) and OL get hurt can't remember who on OL (earlier in the game)
Mack hurt his hand but came back right after
Quote from: Blueforlife on October 26, 2025, 01:43:36 AMSeen a DL (Johnson)
DL Johnson will be a big hit for them if he's done. Did anyone notice if he returned?
My son did say he saw Mack get injured... good boy, binocs & everything! I didn't believe him because I saw him out there when I returned. Guess it's apology time.
Quote from: Tecno on October 26, 2025, 02:16:08 AMDL Johnson will be a big hit for them if he's done. Did anyone notice if he returned?
My son did say he saw Mack get injured... good boy, binocs & everything! I didn't believe him because I saw him out there when I returned. Guess it's apology time.
Johnson looked after getting field treated I think. Not sure about his return.
Sheahan. Seemed to take a big hit to the plant leg? Limping? But seemed ok for multiple punts after that? Could be some "acting".
We certainly don't want to lose our pretty-good-now punter going into the post-season!
Didn't Strev hurt three ligaments. And he willl always wear a brace even if he is playing poker.
Gid Bless, what guts he has shown, can he walk for mayor
Quote from: Tecno on October 26, 2025, 02:16:08 AMDL Johnson will be a big hit for them if he's done. Did anyone notice if he returned?
My son did say he saw Mack get injured... good boy, binocs & everything! I didn't believe him because I saw him out there when I returned. Guess it's apology time.
That's Mustafa Johnson one of the best pass rushers in the CFL, he was injured most of this season and only came back recently. Huge blow to the Als D-line if he's done for the season.
According to 3down "defensive tackle Mustafa Johnson, defensive end Lwal Uguak, offensive lineman Jesse Gibson, and running back Stevie Scott III all had to leave with apparent injuries.
Most to me looked like nicks as they all went to the sidelines under their own power but who knows how they feel the next day. Id be surprised if they missed the game but it wont hurt us if they are playing a bit hurt.
Really tough news on Strev's injury.
Hope he heals up as best as he can.
Stay strong.
Gotta feel for Streveler; that could be a tough recovery for him (especially when you consider it was non-contact).
Streveler makes statement on Instagram (https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/article/bombers-qb-streveler-makes-statement-on-instagram-following-injury-status-for-playoff-game-against-als-in-doubt/)
Same leg. Non-contact. Strev AND Schoen? I wonder who is doing the surgery? If only due to the jinx factor I'd ask for someone else.
Quote from: Waffler on October 27, 2025, 01:24:32 PMSame leg. Non-contact. Strev AND Schoen? I wonder who is doing the surgery? If only due to the jinx factor I'd ask for someone else.
Add in the botched job on Kelly and his never-healing broken leg.
Did Schoen/Strev get their knees done in the USA or do they stay to get it done here? How does that work with 9 month waiting lists? If they stayed here, then maybe there is some quack doctor botching their knees. Maybe the dude wears green jerseys secretly in his basement!
When you get injured right at season end, do you get royally shafted financially? You won't keep collecting your normal IR game cheque, and the team can easily not re-sign you in the off-season (or cut you if you're under contract). So what do you get financially as you can't walk for the next 9 months?
Does WFC do a token re-signing to keep him getting paid into next season? If no bonus and on the 6GIR it wouldn't hurt our SMS.
Quote from: Tecno on October 27, 2025, 03:58:25 PMWhen you get injured right at season end, do you get royally shafted financially? You won't keep collecting your normal IR game cheque, and the team can easily not re-sign you in the off-season (or cut you if you're under contract). So what do you get financially as you can't walk for the next 9 months?
Does WFC do a token re-signing to keep him getting paid into next season? If no bonus and on the 6GIR it wouldn't hurt our SMS.
I believe injured players receive on-going health benefits until the injury is healed, but I don't think they "get paid". If they have insurance, sure, but what football player can get LTD insurance?
What benefit do the Bombers receive for paying a player that will never play again?
Yes, it's the surgeons fault. Has nothing to do with the rehab process, or the medical staff that allowed them back on the field. Or, even the fact that Strev removed his brace to get more mobility.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 29, 2025, 01:54:41 PMI believe injured players receive on-going health benefits until the injury is healed, but I don't think they "get paid". If they have insurance, sure, but what football player can get LTD insurance?
What benefit do the Bombers receive for paying a player that will never play again?
If Strev has another year left on his contract he'll likely receive his full pay on the 6 game next season until the time he can be evaluated as healthy to play once again. At that time the Bombers can decide if they will keep him or cut him.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 29, 2025, 04:52:38 PMIf Strev has another year left on his contract he'll likely receive his full pay on the 6 game next season until the time he can be evaluated as healthy to play once again. At that time the Bombers can decide if they will keep him or cut him.
He is on a 1 year deal accourding to our unofficial roster info.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 29, 2025, 05:37:19 PMHe is on a 1 year deal accourding to our unofficial roster info.
That leads into CFLPA and CBA territory, probably covers his medical expenses until healed, but that's all. At one time I think the CFLPA was trying to reach an agreement with the Fed Govt. for workers compensation coverage, but couldn't convince them they were a worthwhile risk.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 29, 2025, 04:52:38 PMIf Strev has another year left on his contract
Boy, it would sure be nice if each player's CFL.ca page showed their contract expiration date! The data is all there with the CFL (I think?). And if only the teams have that info, they could easily add it to their roster page.
Every other post we're asking "if he's on a 2 year"...
Streveler signed a one year deal. He's a free agent come February
Nothing would make me happier than for one of the Bomber's O-lineman to "accidentally" put an end to Miles Brown's career. Very unfair that a lowlife like that keeps playing while Chris's career is likely over due to a dirty hit.
Quote from: bunker on October 30, 2025, 02:45:23 AMMiles Brown's career. Very unfair that a lowlife like that keeps playing while Chris's career is likely over due to a dirty hit.
Yes, that's one big difference between Strev & Schoen's injuries: Strev's was catastrophic due to outside force. Schoen was just bad luck internally.
Let's not forget though that Masoli returned from double knee blowups. So Strev can too. Not sure how he could be a "running QB" ever again, though.
Quote from: Tecno on October 29, 2025, 10:28:39 PMBoy, it would sure be nice if each player's CFL.ca page showed their contract expiration date! The data is all there with the CFL (I think?). And if only the teams have that info, they could easily add it to their roster page.
Every other post we're asking "if he's on a 2 year"...
Some league transparency would drive way more attention than the 55 yard line.
I'd like to see contract length and term info available like in other leagues.
Quote from: bunker on October 30, 2025, 02:45:23 AMNothing would make me happier than for one of the Bomber's O-lineman to "accidentally" put an end to Miles Brown's career. Very unfair that a lowlife like that keeps playing while Chris's career is likely over due to a dirty hit.
Was it a dirty hit? The injury looked to me to be non contact, after a hard plant he pushed off and dropped to the turf..
Quote from: theaardvark on October 30, 2025, 12:54:52 PMWas it a dirty hit? The injury looked to me to be non contact, after a hard plant he pushed off and dropped to the turf..
The original hit that caused the injury prior to his surgery was IMO dirty. Yes, the reinjury was noncontact.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 30, 2025, 12:54:52 PMWas it a dirty hit? The injury looked to me to be non contact, after a hard plant he pushed off and dropped to the turf..
I think
@bunker is referring to Streveler's injury last season in the Banjo Bowl where Brown's dirtbag antics were the cause.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 30, 2025, 12:57:34 PMI think @bunker is referring to Streveler's injury last season in the Banjo Bowl where Brown's dirtbag antics were the cause.
One week after Brown knocked Zach out of the LDC with an intentional hit to the head, very similar to the CJ Reavis hit in that they both intended to hit him high but made it look accidental.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 30, 2025, 04:59:39 PMOne week after Brown knocked Zach out of the LDC with an intentional hit to the head, very similar to the CJ Reavis hit in that they both intended to hit him high but made it look accidental.
I don't think you can conclude " intent " from either of those hits.
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 30, 2025, 05:12:25 PMI don't think you can conclude " intent " from either of those hits.
I do. we talked at length about it in this thread where you said it should be a 1 game.
https://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=55981.0
It's the game where MOS wore his cap backwards after the hit and Miller issued a statement directly to commissioner Randy Ambrosie the next day.
Strev's style hasn't changed since high school, runs and throws the same way.
Injury Report today...
Rules Out - Chris Streveler
Rules Doubtful - Nic Demski
Quote from: ModAdmin on October 30, 2025, 07:29:06 PMInjury Report today...
Rules Out - Chris Streveler
Rules Doubtful - Nic Demski
Smoke and mirrors, is that all we're getting?
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 30, 2025, 05:12:25 PMI don't think you can conclude " intent " from either of those hits.
It's a pattern. If it happened once, no problemo. But every year the Riders cripple/concuss another Bomber, and usually other teams' players too.
What's the saying? Once is an accident, twice is ... thirty times is...
Demski is likely GTD on the roster but does not play.
All the aforementioned Rider hits were dirty. All of their teams with ODay as GM have been dirty.
Jon Hodge reporting Chris Streveler re-tore the ACL in his left knee. Future unknown at this point except that he will get surgery again.
Quote from: ModAdmin on November 02, 2025, 04:56:31 PMJon Hodge reporting Chris Streveler re-tore the ACL in his left knee. Future unknown at this point except that he will get surgery again.
Unfortunate for him after working so hard to rehab. The future is unknown officially but it doesn't look good.
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 02, 2025, 05:06:44 PMUnfortunate for him after working so hard to rehab. The future is unknown officially but it doesn't look good.
Not confident O'Shea would ever close the door on Strev, if he rehabs he likely comes back even if it's only for SY.
Streveller update:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-bombers-cfl-9.6963972
Streveler said Sunday he re-tore the anterior cruciate ligament and the meniscus in his left knee. Last year, he had the ACL and medial collateral ligament repaired, plus the posterior cruciate ligament was damaged.
"Thankfully, my MCL and PCL were intact," Streveler said of the latest injury. "That's the bright side of things. I don't even know if heartbreaking does it justice."
He plans surgery soon and then rehab, but added he tried to get ready to play in the East final.
When his knee swelled after running, he knew it was a pipe dream.
The meniscus is potentially worse depending how badly it is damaged. It is the layer that stops the knee from being bone on bone.
Quote from: Waffler on November 03, 2025, 03:47:30 PMStreveller update:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-bombers-cfl-9.6963972
Streveler said Sunday he re-tore the anterior cruciate ligament and the meniscus in his left knee. Last year, he had the ACL and medial collateral ligament repaired, plus the posterior cruciate ligament was damaged.
"Thankfully, my MCL and PCL were intact," Streveler said of the latest injury. "That's the bright side of things. I don't even know if heartbreaking does it justice."
He plans surgery soon and then rehab, but added he tried to get ready to play in the East final.
When his knee swelled after running, he knew it was a pipe dream.
The meniscus is potentially worse depending how badly it is damaged. It is the layer that stops the knee from being bone on bone.
This is ridiculous, I think it's time to dump Al Couture and start fresh, too much evidence he allows the players to do whatever they want. If he was managing Chad Kelly, good chance he would have let him play as early as July.
I was doing a bit of research into rehabilitation time for athletes who injure their knee ligaments, and while one-year is the previous minimum, there's growing evidence to suggest you need closer to two years. Given that both Streveler and Schoen both reinjured those same ligaments, that's probably correct (even with the small sample size).
Realistically, I don't see how either of those two come back from those injuries.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 03, 2025, 05:54:42 PMThis is ridiculous, I think it's time to dump Al Couture and start fresh, too much evidence he allows the players to do whatever they want. If he was managing Chad Kelly, good chance he would have let him play as early as July.
I don't know where the blame lies. But someone has to protect these players from themselves. And we are not doing that.
Quote from: Jesse on November 03, 2025, 08:04:30 PMI don't know where the blame lies. But someone has to protect these players from themselves. And we are not doing that.
It really goes back to 2019 and probably before, when they allowed Strev to play on a broken ankle, the guy could barely walk. In that interview with Strev posted in the video thread, he talks about how he fooled the training staff by refusing to show how much pain he was in at the time. Can't blame the player, they know their football career is their golden goose and without that opportunity they don't have much else to fall back on.
Quote from: Waffler on November 03, 2025, 03:47:30 PMStreveller update:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-bombers-cfl-9.6963972
Streveler said Sunday he re-tore the anterior cruciate ligament and the meniscus in his left knee. Last year, he had the ACL and medial collateral ligament repaired, plus the posterior cruciate ligament was damaged.
"Thankfully, my MCL and PCL were intact," Streveler said of the latest injury. "That's the bright side of things. I don't even know if heartbreaking does it justice."
He plans surgery soon and then rehab, but added he tried to get ready to play in the East final.
When his knee swelled after running, he knew it was a pipe dream.
The meniscus is potentially worse depending how badly it is damaged. It is the layer that stops the knee from being bone on bone.
You can definitely play without a meniscus (they just remove the torn bit if it is floating). Long term will lead to arthritis. Short term requires anti-inflammatories and tylenol.
If the ACL is done then he is done.
Why did CS17 stop using the brace?
Quote from: theaardvark on November 04, 2025, 04:18:30 PMWhy did CS17 stop using the brace?
Self-diagnosis + FREEDOM!
Quote from: theaardvark on November 04, 2025, 04:18:30 PMWhy did CS17 stop using the brace?
Needed speed going into the post-season. And he was faster without it. The "Strev package" was pretty useless when he was slow with the brace.
Let's give him credit, he risked it all to put full effort in for his team
and us. Don't chastise him for it. He's an adult, it's his decision and gamble. It just didn't pay off.
Quote from: Cool Spot on November 03, 2025, 06:48:44 PMI was doing a bit of research into rehabilitation time for athletes who injure their knee ligaments, and while one-year is the previous minimum, there's growing evidence to suggest you need closer to two years.
Except after 2 years not on the field your career is probably over and no one will remember your name. Like you're going to sit out FA and say "no one pay me this year, I'll wait until next". The only person immune to this would be a top-5 QB (like Kelly) and maybe a top-3 REC... maybe.
The business dictates that after knee injuries you need to come back within a year and just risk it. 50/50 you'll probably be ok. Most young men will take those odds.
Just got home yesterday, going through all the stuff, forum, videos.
Did anyone catch at the very last 2s of the MOS post-game he said that Demski "was close" when asked how close he was to playing. Interesting.
Edit: And Demski in his post-game said "super close", that he just couldn't sprint hard.
If it was me, I would have played him. Do or die, doesn't matter if he gets a hammy because now he has 8 months to recover, which is more than enough time no matter how bad it is. And the "next game" doesn't matter because a) it's HAM (an easy out) and b) we'd be no worse off than if he was still not playing. The only downside is if he starts then re-hammies in the 1st or something. Would need a full half out of him. And with either Corcoran or Cobb dressing anyhow, we'd be no worse off even if that happened.
Quote from: Tecno on November 06, 2025, 06:29:44 AMDemski in his post-game said "super close", that he just couldn't sprint hard.
If it was me, I would have played him.
For once they did the right thing. If he can't sprint he can't go deep, can't even chase a close ball on a short route. He surely would have been out of the game early. Once he decides to give that extra effort his small muscle tear becomes a big muscle tear.
Quote from: Tecno on November 05, 2025, 11:39:41 PMExcept after 2 years not on the field your career is probably over and no one will remember your name. Like you're going to sit out FA and say "no one pay me this year, I'll wait until next". The only person immune to this would be a top-5 QB (like Kelly) and maybe a top-3 REC... maybe.
The business dictates that after knee injuries you need to come back within a year and just risk it. 50/50 you'll probably be ok. Most young men will take those odds.
JT19 says "Hi".
Quote from: Tecno on November 06, 2025, 06:29:44 AMJust got home yesterday, going through all the stuff, forum, videos.
Did anyone catch at the very last 2s of the MOS post-game he said that Demski "was close" when asked how close he was to playing. Interesting.
Edit: And Demski in his post-game said "super close", that he just couldn't sprint hard.
If it was me, I would have played him. Do or die, doesn't matter if he gets a hammy because now he has 8 months to recover, which is more than enough time no matter how bad it is. And the "next game" doesn't matter because a) it's HAM (an easy out) and b) we'd be no worse off than if he was still not playing. The only downside is if he starts then re-hammies in the 1st or something. Would need a full half out of him. And with either Corcoran or Cobb dressing anyhow, we'd be no worse off even if that happened.
So you'd sacrifice Demski to win the first playoff game when they have 2 remaining?
Quote from: theaardvark on November 06, 2025, 04:43:22 PMJohnathon Toews 19 - NHL Jets
Toews didn't suffer back-to-back season-ending knee injuries and the ensuing surgery and rehabilitation.
That's a pretty bad comparison.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 06, 2025, 04:57:23 PMToews didn't suffer back-to-back season-ending knee injuries and the ensuing surgery and rehabilitation.
That's a pretty bad comparison.
I was referring to the "Out of the league for 2 years, and no one will remember your name" comment...
Quote from: theaardvark on November 06, 2025, 04:59:02 PMI was referring to the "Out of the league for 2 years, and no one will remember your name" comment...
But Toews' name was never forgotten during his time away from hockey.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 06, 2025, 04:43:22 PMJohnathon Toews 19 - NHL Jets
Ya, so now name a CFL REC that sat for 2 straight "being cautious" and came back to be a big factor. You have to try to play in the middle (1-ish years max) and prove you still "got it". Even if hammies (or whatever) "need" 2 years, a CFL player can't afford to do it. And teams won't keep paying you forever.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 06, 2025, 04:41:15 PMSo you'd sacrifice Demski to win the first playoff game when they have 2 remaining?
Definitely. And I'm proven right with the (hindsight) result. List out the options and the possible results, you'll see I'm right. The only situation you lose is if Demski is out in the 1st Q and you're down a REC. There literally should be no concern for "next week" in a game you're almost certainly going to lose due to lack of top REC talent.
We gambled that we could win without him. Bad gamble.
The Bombers left the decision up to ND10. He decided he wasn't ready to go yet.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 09, 2025, 07:15:12 PMThe Bombers left the decision up to ND10. He decided he wasn't ready to go yet.
And rightfully so. If he can't go, he can't go. There's no point in trotting him out only to have him further injure himself 10 minutes into the game. He plays a hard game, he's got to be phyically able to run his routes hard to be effective. Dressing him would have been a mistake.
Quote from: dd on November 09, 2025, 07:27:27 PMAnd rightfully so. If he can't go, he can't go. There's no point in trotting him out only to have him further injure himself 10 minutes into the game. He plays a hard game, he's got to be phyically able to run his routes hard to be effective. Dressing him would have been a mistake.
Agree.