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Title: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 05, 2025, 03:43:54 PM
Injuries are adding up with several players lost for the season. Now that the NFL has started we should be thinking about when to add the extra 5 players to the PR. In theory we can start the 30 day period anytime we choose.

All things considered, we should be doing this soon IMO. I'd go further and suggest a few on the PR could/should be replaced.

A few comments were made about making a trade. I'm not opposed but who would we trade and with which team do we find a trading partner. Neg list and draft choices are always an option in any possible trade I suppose.

Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: gobombersgo on September 05, 2025, 05:02:29 PM
O'Shea said they are going to expand their practice roster after their bye week which is the week of October.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 05, 2025, 05:07:29 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on September 05, 2025, 05:02:29 PMO'Shea said they are going to expand their practice roster after their bye week which is the week of October.

In that case, none of those newbies will make any impact in 2025. They might get added to play the last game if there is no impact in the standings. That's what usually happens. However for the past several seasons we've been in 1st place.

Chances of a 1st place season at this point is not good. Coming out of this weekend 7 - 5 is better than a 6 - 6 obviously and gives a shot at 2nd in the very least. We'd have a chance to win the series against the Riders.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 05, 2025, 05:29:29 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2025, 05:07:29 PMIn that case, none of those newbies will make any impact in 2025. They might get added to play the last game if there is no impact in the standings. That's what usually happens. However for the past several seasons we've been in 1st place.

Chances of a 1st place season at this point is not good. Coming out of this weekend 7 - 5 is better than a 6 - 6 obviously and gives a shot at 2nd in the very least. We'd have a chance to win the series against the Riders.

Who was the last newbie brought in from the NFL mid-season that made an immediate impact on the Bomber roster?  Over the last decade they seem to use PR recruits mostly to prepare for the next season.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 05, 2025, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 05, 2025, 05:29:29 PMWho was the last newbie brought in from the NFL mid-season that made an immediate impact on the Bomber roster?  Last decade they seem to use PR recruits mostly to prepare for the next season.

I'm not sure but that wasn't quite the point. A new player brought in today would be better prepared to be added to the AR then one added a 4-6 weeks from now if an injury occurs.

We've added / deleted others on the PR during the season. Early NFL cuts or from the USFL.

Even if the premise is to prepare for next season, earlier is better IMO. I don't want to see us fighting for a playoff ranking and adding 5 new guys to look at in a month from now.

Person was the only player added post final roster to start the season last year. He was signed on 09/19. As far as I can tell very few players we had on our PR in all of 2024 returned in 2025. Randolph, Vanterpool and Case maybe but they also played some games in 2024 and were not late season adds.

Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Tecno on September 06, 2025, 03:04:45 AM
Ya, NFL ELC guys won't help us, but trade pickups to load up for the post-season could.  Imagine if we announced tomorrow we signed a league-top DT or beefy REC.  That's really all we need to instantly be better, and neither position has a big book-learning curve.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Jesse on September 06, 2025, 02:07:30 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2025, 05:07:29 PMIn that case, none of those newbies will make any impact in 2025. They might get added to play the last game if there is no impact in the standings. That's what usually happens. However for the past several seasons we've been in 1st place.

Chances of a 1st place season at this point is not good. Coming out of this weekend 7 - 5 is better than a 6 - 6 obviously and gives a shot at 2nd in the very least. We'd have a chance to win the series against the Riders.

Much like when we added Moore and Echols, I don't think the plan is to add players from the PR.

MOS stated that if he need to add a player at this time of the year, it needs to be someone with experience. It wouldn't be some random PR add who's never played in the CFL.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Pigskin on September 06, 2025, 02:48:37 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 05, 2025, 05:07:29 PMIn that case, none of those newbies will make any impact in 2025. They might get added to play the last game if there is no impact in the standings. That's what usually happens. However for the past several seasons we've been in 1st place.

Chances of a 1st place season at this point is not good. Coming out of this weekend 7 - 5 is better than a 6 - 6 obviously and gives a shot at 2nd in the very least. We'd have a chance to win the series against the Riders.

I am just hoping we finish 3rd. and go on a playoff run like we did in 2019.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Jesse on September 06, 2025, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on September 06, 2025, 02:48:37 PMI am just hoping we finish 3rd. and go on a playoff run like we did in 2019.

Tragic if we miss out on the home West Final this year.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Pigskin on September 06, 2025, 02:57:21 PM
Quote from: Jesse on September 06, 2025, 02:52:14 PMTragic if we miss out on the home West Final this year.

It was going to happen sooner or later. To bad it's going to be the year we host the cup.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: theaardvark on September 06, 2025, 04:28:18 PM
Is it bad to want the crossover and a GC match against SSK?
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: DM83 on September 07, 2025, 12:51:58 AM
lol!

This team needs a lot of players.
They now have two receivers only
They have a A running back
Two of three LBs
And entire d-line
Probably 4 DBs
Entire O line
Entire Quarterback  room

In the Grey cup years they were awesome. Now, they look like the. Ottawa Red / blacks.
O points second half......come on. Management is obviously in over their head
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Tecno on September 07, 2025, 01:51:11 AM
Quote from: Pigskin on September 06, 2025, 02:57:21 PMIt was going to happen sooner or later. To bad it's going to be the year we host the cup.

"It's just another normal year"

When it's clear WPG isn't in the cup, watch that stubhub light up.  Even (especially?) if SSK is in it you won't be able to give the tickets away for a -20C game.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 02:03:27 AM
Quote from: DM83 on September 07, 2025, 12:51:58 AMlol!

This team needs a lot of players.
They now have two receivers only
They have a A running back
Two of three LBs
And entire d-line
Probably 4 DBs
Entire O line
Entire Quarterback  room

In the Grey cup years they were awesome. Now, they look like the. Ottawa Red / blacks.
O points second half......come on. Management is obviously in over their head
When healthy our receivers are good to great
Our LBs are all great(starters) and our depth is as good as I have seen in a decade here
Our Dline is average and your negativity on this unit isn't correct imo
4 DBs is an out to lunch exaggeration imo, when Houston is ready and Parker is healthy we have an good to great unit imo
Right now our DBs are average
OL is a concern due to injuries and not having consistency
QBs are fine with an elite prospect on the way, suggesting what you are isn't correct, sure sounds like the tone you took when you wanted Hall gone and the we went to 5 straight cups, if Zach is hurt bad yes I'm very worried
Management is the above average with an amazing track record
Forest through the trees, laid two more eggs but maybe we can fry em the next game
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: dd on September 07, 2025, 02:14:31 AM
Quote from: Jesse on September 06, 2025, 02:52:14 PMTragic if we miss out on the home West Final this year.
Home west final?!?!

We aren't even making the playoffs this year!!
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 02:33:01 AM
Quote from: dd on September 07, 2025, 02:14:31 AMHome west final?!?!

We aren't even making the playoffs this year!!
I'll take that action with Zach back healthy

Otherwise agree
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: BlueInCgy on September 07, 2025, 02:41:12 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 02:33:01 AMI'll take that action with Zach back healthy

Otherwise agree

Alright, I'll bite.  Here's the stakes.  Loser doesn't post for a year.  You game?
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 02:48:15 AM
Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 07, 2025, 02:41:12 AMAlright, I'll bite.  Here's the stakes.  Loser doesn't post for a year.  You game?
You are understating the importance of my posting frequentcy
Your bet is too high stakes for these bones
I need my HEAVY participation on the Bomber forum, this place is home, everyone has that zanny uncle lol
You just went all in and scared me, maybe this is why Strevy is worried about forum gambling, it's getting out of hand lol 😆
Pretty cool idea for a bet though
Plus if the Bombers rebuild soon this place needs my positive vibes and enthusiasm to balance the gloom and doom, think of the children 😀
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: dd on September 07, 2025, 02:58:14 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 02:33:01 AMI'll take that action with Zach back healthy

Otherwise agree
You saw zach before he got hurt tonight right?? A couple of picks and gifted the riders 10 points. Ya, awesome offense!! You are living in he past, you have to take your blue blinders off and see what's going on. Zach stinks. I hope he is ok after his concussion tonight but Zachary, your ship has sailed and you should pack it in. We aren't winning anything with him this year. But it's not just zachs fault. No o line, poor receiving corps, D line gets no pressure and runs zero blitzes yet ironically our Qb gets knocked out by a blitz. Duuuuh younger, did any lightbulbs come on?? Doubt it, you re too busy looking cool with your straight brimmed cap.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: dd on September 07, 2025, 02:58:14 AMYou saw zach before he got hurt tonight right?? A couple of picks and gifted the riders 10 points. Ya, awesome offense!! You are living in he past, you have to take your blue blinders off and see what's going on. Zach stinks. I hope he is ok after his concussion tonight but Zachary, your ship has sailed and you should pack it in. We aren't winning anything with him this year. But it's not just zachs fault. No o line, poor receiving corps, D line gets no pressure and runs zero blitzes yet ironically our Qb gets knocked out by a blitz. Duuuuh younger, did any lightbulbs come on?? Doubt it, you re too busy looking cool with your straight brimmed cap.
Zach's health is a big concern but was having an average year
I call it like I see it
Zach if healthy is still good but he needs to carefully consider his future
Our DC is great
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: dd on September 07, 2025, 03:13:08 AM
How many interceptions has Collaros thrown this year? Does he lead the league in picks?. Far more picks than TDs , I bet 2:1 ratio picks to TDs. And his poor performance has lost us more games than he's won. That's a below average year in anyone's books.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 03:18:33 AM
The picks are a concern for sure
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Pigskin on September 07, 2025, 03:52:45 AM
Quote from: dd on September 07, 2025, 03:13:08 AMHow many interceptions has Collaros thrown this year? Does he lead the league in picks?. Far more picks than TDs , I bet 2:1 ratio picks to TDs. And his poor performance has lost us more games than he's won. That's a below average year in anyone's books.

14 TDs, 13 Ints.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: gordo on September 07, 2025, 04:27:10 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 05, 2025, 05:29:29 PMWho was the last newbie brought in from the NFL mid-season that made an immediate impact on the Bomber roster?  Over the last decade they seem to use PR recruits mostly to prepare for the next season.
Mack Herron
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Tecno on September 07, 2025, 04:28:50 AM
Quote from: dd on September 07, 2025, 02:58:14 AMYou saw zach before he got hurt tonight right?? A couple of picks and gifted the riders 10 points. Ya, awesome offense!!

Zach sees 1-on-1 or a mismatch and he goes for it, every time.  Maybe the first INT is on Zach.

But Hogan shares the blame, maybe even takes most of it, because he's the one drawing up these schemes where there are always a 2+ deep options.  After seeing what they did to Demski's early almost-big-play I saw what SSK was doing.  They were clearly looking at the LDC 4th Q and saying "we're stopping that".

At that point on we should have gone to a max depth of mid-range.  Any deep route would be clearing-only where Zach knows that's not a read (REC won't look back).  Then once we burn them a while with that scheme, THEN we can take 1-3 shots.

You know, exactly like SSK did to us.  Basic OC stuff.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 04:30:17 AM
A steady diet of deep routes is the way our offence thrives, mixes well with Bbb
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Tecno on September 07, 2025, 04:36:25 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 04:30:17 AMA steady diet of deep routes is the way our offence thrives, mixes well with Bbb

Can't do it against a D doing what they were.  They were in a strange mid-game form of prevent D for those deep shots.  Always 2 DBs in the picture.  And they are fast guys, too.  Milligan can get all the way from his side to the other.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 04:43:25 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 07, 2025, 04:36:25 AMCan't do it against a D doing what they were.  They were in a strange mid-game form of prevent D for those deep shots.  Always 2 DBs in the picture.  And they are fast guys, too.  Milligan can get all the way from his side to the other.

The hardest club to likely take deep shots on?, yes they blanketed, hats off to their back end
My comment perhaps more general and less relevant for Sask, good pt
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 07, 2025, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: gordo on September 07, 2025, 04:27:10 AMMack Herron

He was in TC and not a late season add when he joined the Bombers.

Eugene Goodlow comes to mind.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: gordo on September 07, 2025, 01:34:54 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 07, 2025, 01:15:53 PMHe was in TC and not a late season add when he joined the Bombers.

Eugene Goodlow comes to mind.
Good gravy you must be old to remember that! I loved Mack Herron but wasn't sure when he joined tbh.

Goodlow another great one. Maybe we unearth one this year still. Not likely and even if we do he will sit in a corner studying the playbook for 6 weeks before seeing the field.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Waffler on September 07, 2025, 01:54:09 PM
These late season adds mentioned were all from another era. The roster is bigger now. The bigger PR is just used for scouting, not just us, all teams. The only type of player that can make a difference would be a Sankey type, already played in the CFL and no one owns him. This in itself is becoming rare as players take their NFL shot after one CFL year and have to come back to their original team when cut.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 07, 2025, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: gordo on September 07, 2025, 01:34:54 PMGood gravy you must be old to remember that! I loved Mack Herron but wasn't sure when he joined tbh.

Goodlow another great one. Maybe we unearth one this year still. Not likely and even if we do he will sit in a corner studying the playbook for 6 weeks before seeing the field.

Yes I am old. Old enough to remember Bombers releasing Herron and Thorpe due to pot / drug issues. I think they had scored something like 21 TD's between them the previous season and that was the same amount less we scored after we released them. 1973 IIRC.


Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Stats Junkie on September 07, 2025, 07:10:50 PM
I am not old enough to remember Mack Herron but I do remember Eugene Goodlow.

Eugene Goodlow was at training camp in 1980 and played in a couple of exhibition games. He was among the final cuts heading into the regular season but he remained in Winnipeg. Goodlow attended practices, out of uniform, where he would run down stray balls or play catch after practice with anyone willing to throw him a ball. Eventually Goodlow impressed enough to replace Robert Woods in the lineup. His story reminds me of the story of Mr. X who attended practices (and played) for the 1934 Winnipegs.

A couple of mid-season additions for the Blue Bombers would be James Murphy (1982) and Milt Stegall (1995).

In 1982, the Blue Bombers brought in a plethora of wide receivers to replace the injured Eugene Goodlow and Mike Holmes. James Murphy was the best of the bunch but coach Ray Jauch was instructed by management not to play him. Back in those days, there was an equalization draft in the off season which allowed non-playoff teams to draft a player from a playoff team. Winnipeg had already identified the players they were going to protect and adding Murphy meant that they would have to leave someone valuable unprotected. Ray Jauch finally convinced management to permit James Murphy to play in the playoffs because he was the best option available – and he proved it.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: gordo on September 09, 2025, 12:10:46 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 07, 2025, 03:07:08 PMYes I am old. Old enough to remember Bombers releasing Herron and Thorpe due to pot / drug issues. I think they had scored something like 21 TD's between them the previous season and that was the same amount less we scored after we released them. 1973 IIRC.



I remember this well also. Back when pot was verrrry bad and worthy of getting run out of town. Two of my favorite players.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 01:08:32 PM
Quote from: gordo on September 09, 2025, 12:10:46 AMI remember this well also. Back when pot was verrrry bad and worthy of getting run out of town. Two of my favorite players.

Bernie Ruoff was released due to pot as well.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: markf on September 09, 2025, 01:27:22 PM
I became a Patriot fan when Mack played for them. Which Worked out well for me as a fan.

He must be close to to the shortest player that played in the NFL. Five feet five inches.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: TBURGESS on September 09, 2025, 02:33:00 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 01:08:32 PMBernie Ruoff was released due to pot as well.
As I was told the story back when it happened. Mrs Ruoff was the one caught with pot, and she said that's not mine, it's Bernie's. The Bombers had a zero drug policy and Bernie was gone.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Waffler on September 09, 2025, 02:55:41 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on September 09, 2025, 02:33:00 PMAs I was told the story back when it happened. Mrs Ruoff was the one caught with pot, and she said that's not mine, it's Bernie's. The Bombers had a zero drug policy and Bernie was gone.
Seems far fetched to me. If it was on her person or suitcase, it's hers no matter what she says. Anyway, Ruoff was a flake so no one was exactly shocked.

Ruoff was not released like Herron and Thorpe, he was traded to Hamilton. What his trade did though was give a young punter his break. Some guy named Bob Cameron.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 03:22:04 PM
Quote from: Waffler on September 09, 2025, 02:55:41 PMSeems far fetched to me. If it was on her person or suitcase, it's hers no matter what she says. Anyway, Ruoff was a flake so no one was exactly shocked.

Ruoff was not released like Herron and Thorpe, he was traded to Hamilton. What his trade did though was give a young punter his break. Some guy named Bob Cameron.

I forgot about the trade aspect but Ruoff was a dual role kicker in 1979. Bombers got Larry Butler in trade. In 1980 we added Cameron and Westwood.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Stats Junkie on September 09, 2025, 03:48:18 PM
When the 1980 training camp opened Bob Cameron was the punter and Walt Passaglia was the kicker. Speculation was that the Bombers would grab one of the Argonauts dual purpose kickers when the pre-season ended. The Argos were unlikely to keep both Andrusyshyn and Sunter.

Passaglia tweaked something in the first pre-season game so the Blue Bombers brought in Trevor Kennerd. Kennerd had a very good pre-season which helped Cameron earn his job.

In August, Cameron was released and replaced by Gerald Kunyk. Kunyk had a bad game and Cameron won the punting competition in practice the following week.

Side note: it was the third time that Cameron lost a job to Kunyk - also 1977 Edmonton & 1978 Ottawa.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 09, 2025, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from: Stats Junkie on September 09, 2025, 03:48:18 PMWhen the 1980 training camp opened Bob Cameron was the punter and Walt Passaglia was the kicker. Speculation was that the Bombers would grab one of the Argonauts dual purpose kickers when the pre-season ended. The Argos were unlikely to keep both Andrusyshyn and Sunter.

Passaglia tweaked something in the first pre-season game so the Blue Bombers brought in Trevor Kennerd. Kennerd had a very good pre-season which helped Cameron earn his job.

In August, Cameron was released and replaced by Gerald Kunyk. Kunyk had a bad game and Cameron won the punting competition in practice the following week.

Side note: it was the third time that Cameron lost a job to Kunyk - also 1977 Edmonton & 1978 Ottawa.

Haven't heard that name in a hundred years, older brother of Lui Passaglia.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 09, 2025, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 09, 2025, 04:34:14 PMHaven't heard that name in a hundred years, older brother of Lui Passaglia.

I played in an off season game of touch football with him. Ah to be young again. lol
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: ModAdmin on September 09, 2025, 10:17:40 PM
Quote from: Jesse on September 06, 2025, 02:52:14 PMTragic if we miss out on the home West Final this year.
If, IF, we make it to the Grey Cup, all will be forgiven.  ;D    ;D
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: BBRT on September 09, 2025, 11:11:05 PM
Quote from: Stats Junkie on September 07, 2025, 07:10:50 PMI am not old enough to remember Mack Herron but I do remember Eugene Goodlow.

Eugene Goodlow was at training camp in 1980 and played in a couple of exhibition games. He was among the final cuts heading into the regular season but he remained in Winnipeg. Goodlow attended practices, out of uniform, where he would run down stray balls or play catch after practice with anyone willing to throw him a ball. Eventually Goodlow impressed enough to replace Robert Woods in the lineup. His story reminds me of the story of Mr. X who attended practices (and played) for the 1934 Winnipegs.

A couple of mid-season additions for the Blue Bombers would be James Murphy (1982) and Milt Stegall (1995).

In 1982, the Blue Bombers brought in a plethora of wide receivers to replace the injured Eugene Goodlow and Mike Holmes. James Murphy was the best of the bunch but coach Ray Jauch was instructed by management not to play him. Back in those days, there was an equalization draft in the off season which allowed non-playoff teams to draft a player from a playoff team. Winnipeg had already identified the players they were going to protect and adding Murphy meant that they would have to leave someone valuable unprotected. Ray Jauch finally convinced management to permit James Murphy to play in the playoffs because he was the best option available – and he proved it.


So glad you remember Mack Herron. Let me tell you my Mack story. Mack went to either Kansas State of Univ of Kansas if I remember correctly. I went to SMU. We were both about the same age but I think Mack was about 2 years older than I. I ran the 100 and 200 dashes for SMU and was running at the Drake Relays (can not remember the dang year). It was just the first heats in the 100 and I was next to Mack for our heat. Boy was he short and stocky and if memory is correct had this really cool Afro hair style (was just coming on back in those days). Now to put it in perspective I was actually a substitute runner as we were short one entry for the 100.

To make a long story short - when the gun went off the only thing I saw of Mack Herron was his back side about 10 yards ahead of me and going farther away! I never knew he played for the Big Blue until I came to Canada in 1971 and started following the big blue. I would have loved to see him play!
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: kkc60 on September 12, 2025, 10:47:34 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 02:03:27 AMWhen healthy our receivers are good to great
Our LBs are all great(starters) and our depth is as good as I have seen in a decade here
Our Dline is average and your negativity on this unit isn't correct imo
4 DBs is an out to lunch exaggeration imo, when Houston is ready and Parker is healthy we have an good to great unit imo
Right now our DBs are average
OL is a concern due to injuries and not having consistency
QBs are fine with an elite prospect on the way, suggesting what you are isn't correct, sure sounds like the tone you took when you wanted Hall gone and the we went to 5 straight cups, if Zach is hurt bad yes I'm very worried
Management is the above average with an amazing track record
Forest through the trees, laid two more eggs but maybe we can fry em the next game

i agree our receivers are good (when healthy) unfortunately either our OC or our QB aren't good enough, because so far no one bit Demski has done too much.

OL is not good, no consistency whatsoever.

Not too sure who the elite prospect is (Elgersma?) but the QBs are not fine. Zach doesn't have the arm anymore, Streveler can't run like he used to and is useless as a pocket passer and obviously they don't like Wilson that much since he has gotten no chances (and looked pretty meh in the preseason).

Management has been fine, but clearly regressing and has been unable to find any legit homegrown starters the past couple years it seems.

Also, stop with the Hall nonsense. Congratulations, you were right about something. Everyone has been right or wrong before, dwelling on the time you were right several years ago just discredits any argument you make.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 13, 2025, 12:11:38 AM
Quote from: kkc60 on September 12, 2025, 10:47:34 PMi agree our receivers are good (when healthy) unfortunately either our OC or our QB aren't good enough, because so far no one bit Demski has done too much.

OL is not good, no consistency whatsoever.

Not too sure who the elite prospect is (Elgersma?) but the QBs are not fine. Zach doesn't have the arm anymore, Streveler can't run like he used to and is useless as a pocket passer and obviously they don't like Wilson that much since he has gotten no chances (and looked pretty meh in the preseason).

Management has been fine, but clearly regressing and has been unable to find any legit homegrown starters the past couple years it seems.

Also, stop with the Hall nonsense. Congratulations, you were right about something. Everyone has been right or wrong before, dwelling on the time you were right several years ago just discredits any argument you make.
Zach still has an arm
Strev can still run
They like Wilson, he will wait his turn
Management has found some good young players imo
Hall is boss, always has been always will be.  There is a group that seen his brilliance early and I tip my cap to them.  I will celebrate Hall and our support of him for decades.  He is only 2nd to Ritchie in my eyes, who I still talk about.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 12:28:10 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 13, 2025, 12:11:38 AMZach still has an arm
Strev can still run
They like Wilson, he will wait his turn
Management has found some good young players imo
Hall is boss, always has been always will be.  There is a group that seen his brilliance early and I tip my cap to them.  I will celebrate Hall and our support of him for decades.  He is only 2nd to Ritchie in my eyes, who I still talk about.

You watching the same game we are?
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: RebusRankin on September 13, 2025, 12:30:32 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 12:28:10 AMYou watching the same game we are?

I say no.

Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 13, 2025, 01:15:22 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 12:28:10 AMYou watching the same game we are?
Not the game day thread, was a discussion about the Bombers in general from an old post from a week ago, the discussion has exactly nothing to do with tonight's match

You talking about the same topic as us lol
Quote from: RebusRankin on September 13, 2025, 12:30:32 AMI say no.


See above

Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 02:24:12 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 13, 2025, 01:15:22 AMNot the game day thread, was a discussion about the Bombers in general from an old post from a week ago, the discussion has exactly nothing to do with tonight's match

You talking about the same topic as us lolSee above



It's still the argument that Streveler has an arm and / or can run. Whether you said it today or a month ago, you were wrong on both counts.

He's lost his speed and ability to make cuts. He gets some yardage running because it's not harmful to the defence.

This game might also re-address which team has the worst # 2 QB. I gave him some benefit of the doubt in the poll but no longer. He's horrible and has no upside.

Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Jesse on September 13, 2025, 02:26:15 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 02:24:12 AMIt's still the argument that Streveler has an arm and / or can run. Whether you said it today or a month ago, you were wrong on both counts.

He's lost his speed and ability to make cuts. He gets some yardage running because it's not harmful to the defence.

This game might also re-address which team has the worst # 2 QB. I gave him some benefit of the doubt in the poll but no longer. He's horrible and has no upside.



Yup.

He has success in week one because BC still accounted for his running ability. No one is doing that anymore and it has 100% revealed his ineffectiveness.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blueforlife on September 13, 2025, 02:49:10 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 02:24:12 AMIt's still the argument that Streveler has an arm and / or can run. Whether you said it today or a month ago, you were wrong on both counts.

He's lost his speed and ability to make cuts. He gets some yardage running because it's not harmful to the defence.

This game might also re-address which team has the worst # 2 QB. I gave him some benefit of the doubt in the poll but no longer. He's horrible and has no upside.


I never said anything about his arm, wasn't an argument about that from me full stop
The convo was about Zach's arm
Strev while not as fast or nimble in the past can still run, pretty well and showed that ability today, yes the throwing has been terrible as of late
Not wrong about Strev's running ability imo,  can't be wrong about something I didn't state (Strev's arm)
Please stop posting things that are untrue about what I said, you have been doing that for a long time and is not welcome or factual
You initially call me out with the assumption I wasn't watching the game / commenting on it which wasn't true and then you continue to try to   state I'm wrong about a topic I didn't even comment on
Zero value in either post imo
I enjoy our interactions and your content on here but I don't enjoy when things go sideways or untrue like this
I want to keep the peace on here and it's hard when you post like you have the last two times
Let's drop it and talk PR please
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Tecno on September 13, 2025, 03:31:38 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 02:24:12 AMI gave him some benefit of the doubt in the poll but no longer. He's horrible and has no upside.

His knee might get better.  That equals more speed/accel.  In theory it should.  Seems to be taking forever, though.

I agree he has zero upside in the air though.  But if our OC would set him up in better situations I think he could be serviceable, as he was under every other OC we had not named Hogan.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Jesse on September 13, 2025, 03:39:49 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2025, 03:31:38 AMHis knee might get better.  That equals more speed/accel.  In theory it should.  Seems to be taking forever, though.

I agree he has zero upside in the air though.  But if our OC would set him up in better situations I think he could be serviceable, as he was under every other OC we had not named Hogan.


Have you had any kind of joint injury yet? Doesn't seem to ever come back completely after 30.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Tecno on September 13, 2025, 03:58:06 AM
Quote from: Jesse on September 13, 2025, 03:39:49 AMHave you had any kind of joint injury yet? Doesn't seem to ever come back completely after 30.

I haven't had any kind of injury ever!  Comes with the eats/breathes computers territory.

As for 30, I'll take your word for it, but technically Strevy suffered it while he was 29.  He may just be young enough still to pull it off.

Also, if it was a foregone conclusion, wouldn't the geniuses and docs in PAS know this and drop him like a hot potato last offseason?
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Jesse on September 13, 2025, 04:03:45 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2025, 03:58:06 AMI haven't had any kind of injury ever!  Comes with the eats/breathes computers territory.

As for 30, I'll take your word for it, but technically Strevy suffered it while he was 29.  He may just be young enough still to pull it off.

Also, if it was a foregone conclusion, wouldn't the geniuses and docs in PAS know this and drop him like a hot potato last offseason?


Well, obviously we know MOS's penchant for letting guys prove it on the field.

I think it's pretty measurable that Strev is not physically what he once was though.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 06:24:50 PM
Bombers last regular season game is Oct 25. The expanded PR is 30 days from when you decide to start. So there only about 40 days left all together.

In theory that means we should be adding the extra players very soon. I don't know if that will include some deletions from the current group but it will be interesting to see what kind of players they add.

Obviously we don't expect any to impact the 2025 season but it's jump start at looking at candidates for TC 2026.

As usual we have a lot of potential free agents and we never know how that unfolds.

Regardless I think we've had the most trouble with receivers and DL. I'd start there looking for new bodies.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: bwiser on September 13, 2025, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: DM83 on September 07, 2025, 12:51:58 AMlol!

This team needs a lot of players.
They now have two receivers only
They have a A running back
Two of three LBs
And entire d-line
Probably 4 DBs
Entire O line
Entire Quarterback  room

In the Grey cup years they were awesome. Now, they look like the. Ottawa Red / blacks.
O points second half......come on. Management is obviously in over their head
I don't think we need to replace that many players. The Bomber receivers are decent although they could use a Lahler or a healthy Schoen.The linebackers are pretty good. Jones is one of the best middle linebackers in the CFL and Wilson, Kramdi and Griffin when he is in their are more than adequate.Our Db's are vastly improved over the early part of the year.The O line needs at least 3 new players. The D line also needs a big upgrade.I think Colleros could still have another good year left in him but he has to stay upright.There has been way to much pressure on Colleros this season and the poor O line play has effected Olivera from having his usual dominant season. The Bombers need a better Qb to develop.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 14, 2025, 12:23:24 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 13, 2025, 12:28:10 AMYou watching the same game we are?
No, he is clearly not.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 15, 2025, 09:53:28 PM
In recent seasons we've locked up 1st place early. That allowed the team to activate more PR players to get a look in a regular season game. That might have also included some of the expanded PR players added in October.

That won't be the case in 2025. Our PR players are only going to get into the last game if injuries force the issue.

The expanded PR also becomes more of a problem getting practice reps. Again, we're in a dog fight to land a playoff spot. There won't be much time to use at giving those players more reps.

Obviously we'll add those extra 5 players and it will be interesting to see who they are but I won't expect to see them in a game in 2025.

IMO adding them sooner for the 30 day window looks makes sense now.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2025, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 15, 2025, 09:53:28 PMIn recent seasons we've locked up 1st place early. That allowed the team to activate more PR players to get a look in a regular season game. That might have also included some of the expanded PR players added in October.

That won't be the case in 2025. Our PR players are only going to get into the last game if injuries force the issue.

The expanded PR also becomes more of a problem getting practice reps. Again, we're in a dog fight to land a playoff spot. There won't be much time to use at giving those players more reps.

Obviously we'll add those extra 5 players and it will be interesting to see who they are but I won't expect to see them in a game in 2025.

IMO adding them sooner for the 30 day window looks makes sense now.

I don't recall the Bombers giving mid-season PR additions any game reps in past seasons, often they bring them in work them out and decide whether to invite them back to TC the next season.  Players that have been on the PR all season are usually given some amount of game time later in the season if possible, but unless they bomb that may not be an option this season.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Blue In BC on September 16, 2025, 12:58:46 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2025, 10:33:28 PMI don't recall the Bombers giving mid-season PR additions any game reps in past seasons, often they bring them in work them out and decide whether to invite them back to TC the next season.  Players that have been on the PR all season are usually given some amount of game time later in the season if possible, but unless they bomb that may not be an option this season.

This is not mid season. The game this week is game 14. The expanded PR is a 30 day window and our last regular season game is Oct 25. Today is Sept 15th so there are only 39 days left in our regular season.

I've pointed out it's very unlikely we have our standings spot locked down early as we have in past seasons. I doubt we add 5 or 6 PR players to play the last game as we've done in recent seasons when we had 1st locked up.

Taking a look at some TC 2026 players is normal but I don't want to see them taking up too many reps while we're fighting to secure a play off spot during the last 2 games.
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 16, 2025, 04:27:34 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 16, 2025, 12:58:46 PMThis is not mid season. The game this week is game 14. The expanded PR is a 30 day window and our last regular season game is Oct 25. Today is Sept 15th so there are only 39 days left in our regular season.

I've pointed out it's very unlikely we have our standings spot locked down early as we have in past seasons. I doubt we add 5 or 6 PR players to play the last game as we've done in recent seasons when we had 1st locked up.

Taking a look at some TC 2026 players is normal but I don't want to see them taking up too many reps while we're fighting to secure a play off spot during the last 2 games.

What a shame if they took away reps from Jake Thomas or Michael Ayers or Dillon Mitchell.

We could potentially lose the game by more!  ;D
Title: Re: Bomber PR
Post by: BBRT on September 16, 2025, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2025, 02:03:27 AMWhen healthy our receivers are good to great
Our LBs are all great(starters) and our depth is as good as I have seen in a decade here
Our Dline is average and your negativity on this unit isn't correct imo
4 DBs is an out to lunch exaggeration imo, when Houston is ready and Parker is healthy we have an good to great unit imo
Right now our DBs are average
OL is a concern due to injuries and not having consistency
QBs are fine with an elite prospect on the way, suggesting what you are isn't correct, sure sounds like the tone you took when you wanted Hall gone and the we went to 5 straight cups, if Zach is hurt bad yes I'm very worried
Management is the above average with an amazing track record
Forest through the trees, laid two more eggs but maybe we can fry em the next game


Sorry but IMHO I have to disagree across the board. We are weak across the board on the OL and DL, Our secondary when and if ever healthy is average at best. Our LB's are average at best. And we only have two legit receivers and doubt that will change. And who knows where things will sort out QB wise. Add to this we have a bad OC and have failed to fill the talent gaps that departed at the start of the year. Our recruitment is sub par at best.