Demski head or neck, should be ok
Sterns hard to tell might not be ok
Kramdi got nicked and came back
Zach took a few shots but ok
Noticed Brady has shoulder wrapped but likely preventative from previous injury
Who did I miss?
Cobb likely for Sterns? Mcleod?
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 03:25:12 AMDemski head or neck, should be ok
Sterns hard to tell might not be ok
Kramdi got nicked and came back
Zach took a few shots but ok
Noticed Brady has shoulder wrapped but likely preventative from previous injury
Who did I miss?
Cobb likely for Sterns?
BO20 has had his should taped for the last 4 games.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 22, 2025, 03:47:40 AMBO20 has had his should taped for the last 4 games.
Thanks, 1st time I noticed
Demski mild concussion (first time?). Likely labeled "head" and he's fine in 1 week. However, he is also getting older and that cranium doesn't like hits as much as it used to.
Sterns, TSN was talking shoulder, but it sure looked like he was worried about wrist? Hit in slow-mo didn't show any helmet contact, just upper arm to upper arm. The FS who did it was also shaken up but he walked it off.
Worst case a broken arm or separated shoulder? Best case a nothingburger.
If we had Schoen & Pokey coming in soon it won't matter at all... If not, we're kinda screwed in LDC/BB with no Sterns, basically our #2 threat.
Zach got whacked, ya, but looked more peeved than injured. Probably a few bruises and quite sore. He'll be fine.
Sterns no ice on shoulder when they showed him on sidelines. Unfortunately they didn't show elbow or below so I couldn't see any wrist (or elsewhere) ice, should it have been there.
No ice means good sign?
I didn't see anyone else getting nicked. Stern's might be out for a few games, but it's really hard to tell.
I didn't notice Sterns on the sidelines after he got pasted. That catch he made was impressive.
Sterns was in street clothes after the half, likely doubtful for a while. Demski will likely not participate in practices so we wont hear anything probably
Demski looked like he had the thousand yard stare when they showed him after the half. Not a good sign IMO.
Looked like Sterns wrist or lower arm. Could be anything from a sprain to a break, but he's not likely in street clothes if it's just a sprain, especially since we had to use Strev as a receiver in the 2nd half.
Quote from: TBURGESS on August 22, 2025, 02:52:03 PMDemski looked like he had the thousand yard stare when they showed him after the half. Not a good sign IMO.
Looked like Sterns wrist or lower arm. Could be anything from a sprain to a break, but he's not likely in street clothes if it's just a sprain, especially since we had to use Strev as a receiver in the 2nd half.
The team decided both were out at half time, so no surprise they were in street clothes. After watching the game again, I'm not sure what happened with Stern. It does seem likely he'll miss some time.
Bombers will have 4 days off now, and won't be back at practice till Tuesday.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 22, 2025, 03:18:45 PMBombers will have 4 days off now, and won't be back at practice till Tuesday.
Mini bye. That's good timing.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 22, 2025, 03:26:21 PMMini bye. That's good timing.
The bad part of this. We will not get an injury report till Tuesday.
It didn't appear that Hallett, Parker or Schoen were close to ready this week. So I don't think we'll see any of these playing next week. From that point of view the only changes we might see are from the PR moved to the AR.
Beyond Houston probably getting added, the big question is the status surrounding receivers health.
Earlier I thought Schoen might be a choice but in reconsideration, I think that is less likely just yet.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 22, 2025, 04:21:39 PMIt didn't appear that Hallett, Parker or Schoen were close to ready this week. So I don't think we'll see any of these playing next week. From that point of view the only changes we might see are from the PR moved to the AR.
Beyond Houston probably getting added, the big question is the status surrounding receivers health.
Earlier I thought Schoen might be a choice but in reconsideration, I think that is less likely just yet.
Don't like the idea of pushing Schoen, let him recover and use him for the stretch run, he's not going to save the day in Regina. They do have a serious receiver problem, Demski can probably play next WE but Sterns looks doubtful, they can bring Cobb on as a backup but that won't improve their performance.
Demski can't carry the weight by himself, too many place holders that are not contributing and Pokey is not likely back soon enough to help out. Might be time to consider a trade to get them over the hump, assets like Jon Jones or Jamal Woods should fetch a seasoned receiver from a team in need at other positions. If healthy bringing Woli back to fill in for the rest of the season would be enormously helpful as a stop gap solution, Zach needs another target he can get on the same page with.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2025, 05:10:24 PMDon't like the idea of pushing Schoen, let him recover and use him for the stretch run, he's not going to save the day in Regina. They do have a serious receiver problem, Demski can probably play next WE but Sterns looks doubtful, they can bring Cobb on as a backup but that won't improve their performance.
Demski can't carry the weight by himself, too many place holders that are not contributing and Pokey is not likely back soon enough to help out. Might be time to consider a trade to get them over the hump, assets like Jon Jones or Jamal Woods should fetch a seasoned receiver from a team in need at other positions. If healthy bringing Woli back to fill in for the rest of the season would be enormously helpful as a stop gap solution, Zach needs another target he can get on the same page with.
Nobody is suggesting rushing Schoen. Either he's healthy or he's not. That said, we want / need to win the series against the Riders. If we expect to finish 1st or 2nd it's a critical series. A home playoff game is important and not having to play the WSF even more so.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 22, 2025, 08:46:21 PMNobody is suggesting rushing Schoen. Either he's healthy or he's not. That said, we want / need to win the series against the Riders. If we expect to finish 1st or 2nd it's a critical series. A home playoff game is important and not having to play the WSF even more so.
I'm skeptical, despite what MOS continually says about not rushing players returning from injury, I think he lets the players decide whether they want to play of not. Maybe not a problem if the medical staff confirms, but a list is forming of bad results from bringing players back too early, including GC misadventures, and Dalton returning to action too soon this season.
I think the real problem revolves around rarely bringing in experienced replacement players to deal with position shortages which limits their options, which is what we're seeing at the receiver position now.
Quote from: TBURGESS on August 22, 2025, 02:52:03 PMDemski looked like he had the thousand yard stare when they showed him after the half. Not a good sign IMO.
Looked like Sterns wrist or lower arm. Could be anything from a sprain to a break, but he's not likely in street clothes if it's just a sprain, especially since we had to use Strev as a receiver in the 2nd half.
Did you see him on the sidelines after? Last place I would want to be with a concussion/headache is the sidelines in Montreal with all those sirens & horns.
Quote from: BomberFan73 on August 22, 2025, 09:48:18 PMDid you see him on the sidelines after? Last place I would want to be with a concussion/headache is the sidelines in Montreal with all those sirens & horns.
There are degrees of concussions, most of the ones that are now being diagnosed on the football field are minor and not disabling. In days gone by the majority of players would have continued playing after a few minutes of rest, still remember watching trainers use smelling salts to revive players from unconsciousness before sending them back into play. Now at least they make them sit out for the rest of the game.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2025, 09:18:51 PMI'm skeptical, despite what MOS continually says about not rushing players returning from injury, I think he lets the players decide whether they want to play of not. Maybe not a problem if the medical staff confirms, but a list is forming of bad results from bringing players back too early, including GC misadventures, and Dalton returning to action too soon this season.
I think the real problem revolves around rarely bringing in experienced replacement players to deal with position shortages which limits their options, which is what we're seeing at the receiver position now.
Yup. The latest example is Zach admitting he came back too soon and him saying the medical staff just trusted him to say he's good to go.
Quote from: BomberFan73 on August 22, 2025, 09:48:18 PMDid you see him on the sidelines after? Last place I would want to be with a concussion/headache is the sidelines in Montreal with all those sirens & horns.
Yes, both Sterns and Demski were shown on TSN on the sidelines later. I mentioned in comment #4 Sterns had no ice from chest-up (so no shoulder issue?). I bet TSN would have showed below there if he had had a big bag of ice on something!
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2025, 09:18:51 PMI think he lets the players decide whether they want to play of not. Maybe not a problem if the medical staff confirms, but a list is forming of bad results from bringing players back too early, including GC misadventures
Having your name on that Grey Cup is a near-irresistible temptation... I can see why Biggie/Schoen would say "good to go chief!".
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2025, 05:10:24 PMDon't like the idea of pushing Schoen, let him recover and use him for the stretch run, he's not going to save the day in Regina.
He's not? He's supposed to be our 2025 Lawler. He is the savior, because he has to be! Assume Demski is in for a moment. Schoen takes Sterns spot (if IR'd, otherwise Mitchell). All of a sudden our REC corps is looking very legit instead of anemic. Zach coming into form and the OL not being total suckitude... watch out league!
So do we Davis Alexander him? Well, not if he is one & done like Davis, as winning the LDC by itself doesn't buy us much. But let's say he can win us the next 3 games before blowing up his knee for good... do we take that? Then Pokey comes back...
MTL thought it was worth it to risk Davis. And he's the irreplaceable QB, not "just a REC".
Make you think.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2025, 05:10:24 PMMight be time to consider a trade to get them over the hump, assets like Jon Jones or Jamal Woods should fetch a seasoned receiver from a team in need at other positions. If healthy bringing Woli back to fill in for the rest of the season would be enormously helpful as a stop gap solution, Zach needs another target he can get on the same page with.
I'm always up for a trade in a GC year! I've been saying that since Schoen went down.
But we need another middling NAT like a hole in the head. Go big or go home. Trade for a league top-10 IMP REC. Heck, at the rate TOR is going, maybe Coxie is an option by the deadline! They'll get Polk back anyhow, and a few more losses and they're out regardless of Kelly.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 23, 2025, 10:01:42 AMI'm always up for a trade in a GC year! I've been saying that since Schoen went down.
But we need another middling NAT like a hole in the head. Go big or go home. Trade for a league top-10 IMP REC. Heck, at the rate TOR is going, maybe Coxie is an option by the deadline! They'll get Polk back anyhow, and a few more losses and they're out regardless of Kelly.
Coxie or Lewis
Tor will be up against BC, Ham - could push them to 2-10
Ott will be home and home against BC after their bye next week which could put them to 3-10
Maybe time to start the 2026 training camp by then for those 2 teams
Any trade likely would have to wait until a team gets eliminated. Coxie for example is a bright spot for the Argos, why would they trade him?
Our best option anyway is to wait on Ontaria Wilson who is currently near the bottom of a weak receiving corps in New York. If he makes that team or PR then I would more seriously explore a trade.
Quote from: Waffler on August 23, 2025, 02:20:54 PMAny trade likely would have to wait until a team gets eliminated. Coxie for example is a bright spot for the Argos, why would they trade him?
Our best option anyway is to wait on Ontaria Wilson who is currently near the bottom of a weak receiving corps in New York. If he makes that team or PR then I would more seriously explore a trade.
Wilson didn't get a catch in the teams final preseason game. I don't know what to make of that. They didn't play their starters so I expected to see him get a lot of play time.
Hopefully he's so far down the list, be didn't even warrant a "last chance" (no offence, Pokey! I just want you back!)
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 23, 2025, 10:01:42 AMI'm always up for a trade in a GC year! I've been saying that since Schoen went down.
But we need another middling NAT like a hole in the head. Go big or go home. Trade for a league top-10 IMP REC. Heck, at the rate TOR is going, maybe Coxie is an option by the deadline! They'll get Polk back anyhow, and a few more losses and they're out regardless of Kelly.
They're not trading Coxie, you have to be realistic, I would check in with BC, Sask. or the Ti-Cats for extra parts that don't fit in. I mentioned Woli because he hasn't been able to get back on the field even though he's been healthy for 2 games now, sitting behind Kiondre Smith and BOLO who may also be available. Everybody's favourite Tyler Ternowski is currently injured but he doesn't bring enough skill to make him worth pursuing.
Sask. has Mitchell Picton a perennial backup receiver on a team loaded with great receivers, he's been in the league for 6 years as mostly a reliable part-timer with a skill level close to Woli. He knows the playbook like the back of his hand and could play any receiver position in his sleep.
The Lions are another team with an excess of good receivers, they recently picked up vet Hergy Mayala and plunked him on their PR list as insurance. Anyone who thinks he's not much of a receiver needs to review his highlight package from 2024 with the Elks, he reinvented himself as a speedster who could also catch balls in traffic. It takes motivation to re-invent oneself.
For what it's worth, I read that Schoen was expected to play on LD ( per Hodges ). I'm not sure since he was a DNP in the last practice this week but he has been practising and running.
It would be nice to get him back so we'll see how this works out.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 23, 2025, 04:59:20 PMFor what it's worth, I read that Schoen was expected to play on LD ( per Hodges ). I'm not sure since he was a DNP in the last practice this week but he has been practising and running.
It would be nice to get him back so we'll see how this works out.
Wonder if he's removed the brace or will play with it?
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 23, 2025, 04:59:20 PMFor what it's worth, I read that Schoen was expected to play on LD ( per Hodges ). I'm not sure since he was a DNP in the last practice this week but he has been practising and running.
It would be nice to get him back so we'll see how this works out.
I think Hodge saw that one practice and jumped the gun a little.
Schoen obviously practiced once, but missed the next day. MOS said he needed a little more time.
I'm sure they'll put him in if he says he's ready to go, but nothing we've seen indicates that yet.
I would be surprised if we picked up a receiver mid season from another team, and even more surprised if it was someone who has not played for us before. Not O'Shea's M.O.
I wouldn't rush Schoen back. Odds we win in Regina are small and odds he's the difference between winning and losing even smaller. The fact he did not practice 2 days in a row to me means he's not yet ready.
Quote from: bunker on August 23, 2025, 05:23:10 PMI would be surprised if we picked up a receiver mid season from another team, and even more surprised if it was someone who has not played for us before. Not O'Shea's M.O.
I wouldn't rush Schoen back. Odds we win in Regina are small and odds he's the difference between winning and losing even smaller. The fact he did not practice 2 days in a row to me means he's not yet ready.
But MOS' MO is that guys don't need to practice.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 23, 2025, 09:58:49 AMHe's not? He's supposed to be our 2025 Lawler. He is the savior, because he has to be! Assume Demski is in for a moment. Schoen takes Sterns spot (if IR'd, otherwise Mitchell). All of a sudden our REC corps is looking very legit instead of anemic. Zach coming into form and the OL not being total suckitude... watch out league!
So do we Davis Alexander him? Well, not if he is one & done like Davis, as winning the LDC by itself doesn't buy us much. But let's say he can win us the next 3 games before blowing up his knee for good... do we take that? Then Pokey comes back...
MTL thought it was worth it to risk Davis. And he's the irreplaceable QB, not "just a REC".
Make you think.
This is a crazy opinion, if there's risk to Schoen's career I would sit him out for the rest of the season, need him or not, just so they can continue to employ him for years to come. At some point he could lose his physical skills but he's always going to have the football smarts to play like an older Weston Dressler, Steve Tasker or Darren Flutie which is extremely valuable.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 23, 2025, 05:43:14 PMThis is a crazy opinion, if there's risk to Schoen's career I would sit him out for the rest of the season, need him or not, just so they can continue to employ him for years to come. At some point he could lose his physical skills but he's always going to have the football smarts to play like an older Weston Dressler, Steve Tasker or Darren Flutie which is extremely valuable.
We've already seen Schoen go in and out this season. Now we need him at 100%.
I don't think Schoen will be 100% this season.
Quote from: Jesse on August 23, 2025, 05:30:03 PMBut MOS' MO is that guys don't need to practice.
:D
We'll see I guess
wilson had zero catches in the final Jets preseason game - i would be shocked if he makes the team or PR.
Quote from: TBURGESS on August 23, 2025, 07:12:41 PMI don't think Schoen will be 100% this season.
I'm not sure Schoen will
ever be 100% again. And if not, why not use him while we have him under contract?? He does nothing to help sitting in the tub.
Quote from: bunker on August 23, 2025, 05:23:10 PMI would be surprised if we picked up a receiver mid season from another team, and even more surprised if it was someone who has not played for us before. Not O'Shea's M.O.
Too true. Mafia gonna mafia. "We're happy with the guys we have."
However, if Sterns is out 6+ games, and Schoen isn't coming back soon, then we almost certainly need more top talent. eh? Pokey would fill one spot, but still the other... and maybe even another if D.Mitchell doesn't produce soon!
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 23, 2025, 04:58:10 PMThey're not trading Coxie, you have to be realistic, I would check in with BC, Sask. or the Ti-Cats for extra parts that don't fit in. I mentioned Woli because he hasn't been able to get back on the field even though he's been healthy for 2 games now, sitting behind Kiondre Smith and BOLO who may also be available. Everybody's favourite Tyler Ternowski is currently injured but he doesn't bring enough skill to make him worth pursuing.
Sask. has Mitchell Picton a perennial backup receiver on a team loaded with great receivers, he's been in the league for 6 years as mostly a reliable part-timer with a skill level close to Woli. He knows the playbook like the back of his hand and could play any receiver position in his sleep.
The Lions are another team with an excess of good receivers, they recently picked up vet Hergy Mayala and plunked him on their PR list as insurance. Anyone who thinks he's not much of a receiver needs to review his highlight package from 2024 with the Elks, he reinvented himself as a speedster who could also catch balls in traffic. It takes motivation to re-invent oneself.
You're still thinking too small! Read my lips: HOME. CUP. YEAR.
And you're also fixated on NATs still. I like your zest for them, but it's not enough. We need BIG STARS.
Ideally we find a lower team unhappy with their star (bad fit, etc) who wants to shed the contract, especially if it includes '26. But then we have the complication of being stuck with "not just a rental". We'd have to really want the guy as a puzzle piece in '26 for that to make sense.
Gino sure would look great here, but that's yet another tall lanky REC, when what we really need (assuming Pokey returns) are some mid-size IMP clutch guys with good hands. Like Burnham used to be. Hardy would be peeeerrrrfect.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 08:45:38 AMYou're still thinking too small! Read my lips: HOME. CUP. YEAR.
And you're also fixated on NATs still. I like your zest for them, but it's not enough. We need BIG STARS.
Ideally we find a lower team unhappy with their star (bad fit, etc) who wants to shed the contract, especially if it includes '26. But then we have the complication of being stuck with "not just a rental". We'd have to really want the guy as a puzzle piece in '26 for that to make sense.
Gino sure would look great here, but that's yet another tall lanky REC, when what we really need (assuming Pokey returns) are some mid-size IMP clutch guys with good hands. Like Burnham used to be. Hardy would be peeeerrrrfect.
You assume other team's GM's are mostly idiots who'd be willing to trade any of their top receivers to the Bombers because they're hosting the GC, that isn't happening unless Walters gives up a valuable asset they covet. Pinball is the easiest to dupe, could offer him Willy and he'd likely trade almost anyone, including Kelly!
Bombers need to bring in a plug and play receiver, they don't have time to teach a newcomer how to fit into the offence and run basic routes or bring another rookie with potential up to speed in time for next season. Help is needed right now, pick an underrated asset that is not being used by another team for a minimal payment, Walters has been very good at doing this in the past.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2025, 08:45:38 AMYou're still thinking too small! Read my lips: HOME. CUP. YEAR.
And you're also fixated on NATs still. I like your zest for them, but it's not enough. We need BIG STARS.
Ideally we find a lower team unhappy with their star (bad fit, etc) who wants to shed the contract, especially if it includes '26. But then we have the complication of being stuck with "not just a rental". We'd have to really want the guy as a puzzle piece in '26 for that to make sense.
Gino sure would look great here, but that's yet another tall lanky REC, when what we really need (assuming Pokey returns) are some mid-size IMP clutch guys with good hands. Like Burnham used to be. Hardy would be peeeerrrrfect.
...like Dalton Schoen?
Quote from: bunker on August 24, 2025, 06:36:46 PM...like Dalton Schoen?
Sure, Schoen fits the bill... if he gets out of the tub. HOWEVER, with his apparent fragility, do we want him doing the bruiser crossers taking the beatings? Maybe not.
We might want to deploy Schoen as more of a one-on-one threat deeper or wider, where he can work his scramble-rules magic and not take too much wood.
I stand by the statement we won't need another "lanky", as we'll have at least 2 of Wheatie, Pokey, Mitchell.