Bombers vs Alouettes...Another game the Bombers need to win to keep pace and playoff hopes alive in the west.
The injury status and roster continues to improve and with Demario Houston at least in the mix and Cam Lawson, Peyton Logan and Dalton Schoen doing full workouts this week. These signs are indicators that some positive roster changes are being considered.
Coach O'Shea qualified Schoen's return to the lineup by saying, " I think Dalton probably needs a little more time but he looked good out there today running around."
More updates and depth charts for the game will be forthcoming. Let's go Bombers!
Much like last week, this 'should' be a comfortable victory if we expect this club to start making noise in the second half of the season.
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2025, 07:12:16 PMMuch like last week, this 'should' be a comfortable victory if we expect this club to start making noise in the second half of the season.
This team has to figure out how to play with a lead and keep it - in general but especially against "inferior" opponents.
James Morgan starting, from on the Gazette.
Quote from: ModAdmin on August 19, 2025, 06:56:17 PMBombers vs Alouettes...Another game the Bombers need to win to keep pace and playoff hopes alive in the west.
The injury status and roster continues to improve and with Demario Houston at least in the mix and Cam Lawson, Peyton Logan and Dalton Schoen doing full workouts this week. These signs are indicators that some positive roster changes are being considered.
Coach O'Shea qualified Schoen's return to the lineup by saying, " I think Dalton probably needs a little more time but he looked good out there today running around."
More updates and depth charts for the game will be forthcoming. Let's go Bombers!
Schoen will complete his 6 game IR stint. So he won't be back for another couple of weeks at the earliest.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2025, 08:52:05 PMSchoen will complete his 6 game IR stint. So he won't be back for another couple of weeks at the earliest.
I believe Labour Day
Quote from: peg_city on August 19, 2025, 09:01:50 PMI believe Labour Day
He didn't practice today after working out on Monday, so might not be that soon.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2025, 08:52:05 PMSchoen will complete his 6 game IR stint. So he won't be back for another couple of weeks at the earliest.
So do we know what Schoen's thing was? My guess is
strained knee ligament? Clearly not torn. But you really need to be careful with these things!! Strains turn into tears real easily.
And now we'll be holding our breath every time he's running and changing direction just like we do every time Zach takes a hit... I pray this is the last we see of knee issues for Schoen.
P.S. The knee with the brace... was it the same knee he blew up last year or not??
I think we'll be able to attack that MTL D with all those injuries. The Thorpe D is probably the most complicated one, after our "match coverage".
MTL never brings what they show. It's all (Hall) smoke & mirrors. Lots for the players to remember. Tough on the injury replacements.
Their DB play different schemes, too. Lots of route jumping and roving. The FS is the roving-est in the league. So far their new FS hasn't been able to duplicate what Dequoy brings (who could?).
Just watch out for their DL. Those guys are huge, and can stuff Brady. And Thorpe likes to blitz a fair bit because he's always mixing things up.
If we get ahead by any kind of comfortable margin, get Collaros out of there. Let Strev run out the clock. Call me a nervous Nellie if you want but I will never trust a team that plays Lemon to not take liberties with a QB.
Quote from: Waffler on August 20, 2025, 11:34:29 AMIf we get ahead by any kind of comfortable margin, get Collaros out of there. Let Strev run out the clock. Call me a nervous Nellie if you want but I will never trust a team that plays Lemon to not take liberties with a QB.
i hope we get waaay up but given our offense taking entire quarters off seems to be the norm and the fact that the Als defence is very good and will be fired up knowing they are starting their 4th string QB...this game will be close.
We need a 60 minutes effort tomorrow. Have to play a complete game. OL will have to be good, it's time to get BO20 going.
Logan is in, Peterson is out
Houston not dressed.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 20, 2025, 01:46:42 PMLogan is in, Peterson is out
Houston not dressed.
Hahaha O'Shea is such a coy guy on the mic. Watching the presser yesterday he made it sound like adding Logan would be this hard system switch they weren't even considering considering and then 24 hours later he's in.
Love the poker.
Thomas, Schmekel and Lawson all in means we can rotate an all Canadian interior if we want. Particularly on passing downs probably.
Quote from: Waffler on August 20, 2025, 11:34:29 AMIf we get ahead by any kind of comfortable margin, get Collaros out of there. Let Strev run out the clock. Call me a nervous Nellie if you want but I will never trust a team that plays Lemon to not take liberties with a QB.
I dont see us getting a comfortable margin ,mtrls front 7 is too good, and , Zac hasnt been great under pressure ty
Also for some reason as soon as we get a lead we go very conservative, letting the other team drive the field with underneath stuff. Hopefully we learned something the last two games with blown leads
I also have the feeling that Zac will be in full game management mode. The one thing we dont want to do is let mtrl's d best us (again) with turnovers
Nice Logan is in
Weitz in good on teams
Lawson in is good
No Houston as expected, don't rush a guy that hasn't played ball for a bit, someone else made a good point wouldn't know the playbook yet / calls either
Lineup looks good
All about the play of the OL and getting Brady going imo
Rest should fall into place
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 20, 2025, 02:28:08 PMNice Logan is in
Weitz in good on teams
Lawson in is good
No Houston as expected, don't rush a guy that hasn't played ball for a bit, someone else made a good point wouldn't know the playbook yet / calls either
Lineup looks good
All about the play of the OL and getting Brady going imo
Rest should fall into place
And if not? We could always try patience? ;D
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 20, 2025, 02:32:40 PMAnd if not? We could always try patience? ;D
There is no try, it's just good roster management this week
Bombers have been patient with developing guys, rosters decisions, coaches and with free agent signings
It's a pillar of strength with this club, stay the course even in rough waters, teams approach and next man up
Can't wait to see Houston and Woods!!!
a screen pass to Logan in the open field? Sign me up...I seem to recall him being very fast so any way to get him in space is going to get first downs. or maybe we save that play for labour day - opening drive TD to get the crowd quiet.
It will be nice to get Logan out there. We can use a little spark to the offence.
When Houston is ready, who comes off the roster now? Vaval, Cam Allen or Ayers?
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 20, 2025, 02:28:08 PMNice Logan is in
Weitz in good on teams
Lawson in is good
No Houston as expected, don't rush a guy that hasn't played ball for a bit, someone else made a good point wouldn't know the playbook yet / calls either
Lineup looks good
All about the play of the OL and getting Brady going imo
Rest should fall into place
What's your evidence that Weitz is good on teams?
Quote from: LXTSN on August 20, 2025, 02:54:41 PMIt will be nice to get Logan out there. We can use a little spark to the offence.
When Houston is ready, who comes off the roster now? Vaval, Cam Allen or Ayers?
Ayers, if our coaches can figure out how to replace the 1 ST tackle he gets a game. Might be impossible but we can dream.
Honestly, no reason that the Bombers lose this game.
Montreal is a mess right now.
Why did they move Peterson to the PR? Is the theory that Logan becomes the back up RB even though it creates a ratio problem when he goes on offence for a few plays? Essentially moving Peterson created a roster spot for Weitz.
I don't get the value of that switch. Peterson was playing on ST's but his value was an in game injury replacement at RB.
As predicted J. Jones would be the import bumped by whichever import was added this week ( Logan ).
Kornelson released outright. Not exactly surprised but unfortunate that he didn't pan out. Drafted in 2023. Attended his 3rd TC this season and played 6 games.
Why does Cooley still show on the PR? Can't the league get data info correct in something close to real time?
This week is going to be an interesting test for several players.
1. Vaval at CB. Does he continue holding a starting spot at CB or get pushed back to returner with Houston in the wings?
2. Lawson at CB. He doesn't have the same versatility as Vaval, so what does the future hold for him?
3. Logan as our returner. He has good versatility. At worst he's good depth at a few spots but might be our primary returner going forward with Vaval as the alternate.
4. D. Mitchell. Game 3 and so far he's added 29 yards on 5 receptions. Time to shine?
We might be seeing Schoen back in the near future. This week is game 6 since he went on 6 game IR. In theory he could be back next week. How Mitchell plays might factor into being able to delay his return.
Clearly when Houston does return it will have a domino effect among several positions including those on the PR. I wonder where Parker fits in this equation and wonder if he gets bumped to 6 game IR. This is game 3 he'll miss on 1 game IR but the fact we added 2 DB's this week suggests he won't be ready any time soon?
10 days before the 1st game against the Riders.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 03:07:20 PMWhy did they move Peterson to the PR? Is the theory that Logan becomes the back up RB even though it creates a ratio problem when he goes on offence for a few plays? Essentially moving Peterson created a roster spot for Weitz.
I don't get the value of that switch. Peterson was playing on ST's but his value was an in game injury replacement at RB.
As predicted J. Jones would be the import bumped by whichever import was added this week ( Logan ).
Kornelson released outright. Not exactly surprised but unfortunate that he didn't pan out. Drafted in 2023. Attended his 3rd TC this season and played 6 games.
Why does Cooley still show on the PR? Can't the league get data info correct in something close to real time?
I guess Schmeck showed he was the next DT up over Kornelson but with Jake nearing the end I can't believe they released him. Maybe he didn't show a good work ethic or maybe he requested his release?
Can't ever understand why they keep bringing Weitz back but I suppose Mike Miller takes his ST roster very seriously and requests certain moves be made to achieve that aim and MOS complies.
We lost Novak earlier and now Hallett that both played well on ST's. J. Jones needing to come off to get Logan on also played on ST's.
Peterson also had some ST experience so this is an interesting series of changes to our ST roster.
What does Bailey need to do to get on the AR when we choose to use a 2nd global player? Keeping in mind this is more a forced choice due to injuries to Canadian players.
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Peyton Logan to make Winnipeg Blue Bombers debut against Alouettes
By John Hodge -August 20, 2025
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers will have Peyton Logan in the lineup for the first time this season when they visit the Montreal Alouettes on Thursday night.
The five-foot-seven, 189-pound speedster signed with the Blue Bombers as a free agent following a three-year stint with the Calgary Stampeders. He suffered a thigh injury early in training camp, which caused him to miss the preseason and the first nine games of the regular-season.
The 26-year-old native of Memphis, Tenn. has rushed for 889 yards, caught 42 passes for 330 yards, returned 136 punts for 1,501 yards, returned 69 kickoffs for 1,580 yards, and scored seven touchdowns over 36 career regular-season CFL games.
Logan has been listed as Winnipeg's backup running back behind Brady Oliveira and as one of the team's two returners alongside rookie Trey Vaval. Canadian rookie Matthew Peterson, who has been the primary backup running back for most of this season, has been moved to the practice roster.
Canadian defensive back Nick Hallett (head/eye) has been moved to the one-game injured list, as has American linebacker Jonathan Jones (healthy scratch). Canadian defensive lineman Cameron Lawson (hip) and Global linebacker Fabien Weitz (practice roster) have been moved to the active roster in their place. Winnipeg also announced the release of Canadian defensive lineman Collin Kornelson from the practice roster.
Dalton Schoen, who was a full participant in practice on Monday, remains out due to a knee injury. This week will end his stint on the six-game injured list, at which point he may be placed back on the active roster if healthy.
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers (5-4) will visit the Montreal Alouettes (5-5) at Percival Molson Stadium on Thursday, August 21 with kickoff slated for 7:30 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a walk-off win over the Ottawa Redblacks, while Montreal lost 36-18 on the road to the B.C. Lions.
The weather forecast in Montreal calls for a high of 27 degrees with a mix of sun and cloud. The game will be broadcast on TSN and RDS in Canada, CBS Sports Network in the United States, and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 690 in Montreal.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/20/peyton-logan-to-make-winnipeg-blue-bombers-debut-against-alouettes/
Official: Montreal Alouettes to start QB James Morgan against Blue Bombers
By 3Down Staff -August 20, 2025
The Montreal Alouettes will start James Morgan at quarterback against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers on Thursday night.
The 28-year-old native of Green Bay, Wis. played three quarters against the B.C. Lions last week in relief of Caleb Evans, who is out for the season after suffering a torn ACL. He completed 20-of-33 pass attempts for 211 yards, one touchdown, and one interception as his team lost 36-18.
The six-foot-four, 229-pound passer was originally a fourth-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft by the New York Jets out of Florida International University. He spent time with five different NFL teams and the Pittsburgh Maulers of the USFL before signing with the Alouettes last year, spending most of the season on the practice roster.
Shea Patterson, who signed with the Alouettes earlier this week, will dress as the third-stringer behind Morgan and Cameron Dukes. Montreal's top three quarterbacks — Davis Alexander, McLeod Bethel-Thompson, and Evans — are all on the six-game injured list.
The Alouettes have made two other changes to the roster as Canadian running back Sean Thomas-Erlington (neck) and field-side cornerbacker Kabion Ento (calf) have returned to the lineup. Thomas-Erlington has dressed for nine games on the year and rushed for 361 yards and two touchdowns, while Ento has played seven, recording 21 defensive tackles and three interceptions.
Canadian fullback David Dallaire and defensive back Robert Kennedy III have both been moved to the one-game injured list. With Ento returning, veteran defensive back Ciante Evans has been moved to field-side halfback in Kennedy's place.
Some key players who remain out for the Alouettes due to injury include receivers Austin Mack and Tyson Philpot, offensive lineman Justin Lawrence, defensive lineman Mustafa Johnson, defensive backs Dionte Ruffin and Marc-Antoine Dequoy, and returner James Letcher Jr.
The Montreal Alouettes (5-5) will host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (5-4) at Percival Molson Stadium on Thursday, August 21 with kickoff slated for 7:30 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a walk-off win over the Ottawa Redblacks, while Montreal lost 36-18 on the road to the B.C. Lions.
The weather forecast in Montreal calls for a high of 27 degrees with a mix of sun and cloud. The game will be broadcast on TSN and RDS in Canada, CBS Sports Network in the United States, and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 690 in Montreal.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/20/official-montreal-alouettes-to-start-qb-james-morgan-against-blue-bombers/
As of this moment, even with all the struggles we've been through, we are still very much in control of our own destiny.
If we win tomorrow, we have the opportunity to win both games against Sask and either tie them for first or be with 1 game, with still another game to play against them later in the year.
If we lose tomorrow, then we are facing the prospect of needing to "hope" for things to happen in order for us to finish first. It begins the process of losing control over our own destiny.
We really need this win. It's not the biggest game of the season. It certainly shouldn't be the most challenging. But it's a box that needs to be checked if we want to put ourselves in a position to win that home Grey Cup.
Quote from: Jesse on August 20, 2025, 05:24:47 PMAs of this moment, even with all the struggles we've been through, we are still very much in control of our own destiny.
If we win tomorrow, we have the opportunity to win both games against Sask and either tie them for first or be with 1 game, with still another game to play against them later in the year.
If we lose tomorrow, then we are facing the prospect of needing to "hope" for things to happen in order for us to finish first. It begins the process of losing control over our own destiny.
We really need this win. It's not the biggest game of the season. It certainly shouldn't be the most challenging. But it's a box that needs to be checked if we want to put ourselves in a position to win that home Grey Cup.
every game is huge - the 3 against sask will be a big determining factor. Win out and have some of the west teams do a little skid and first place is possible.
Top 3 QB's on the 6 game? Ouch. Poor AC
Shea Patterson picked up behind Daisy.
Morgan did not look terrible, and getting first snaps this week can only help.
We need to "Longest Yard" Lemon. Let him through and hit him with the groin shot pass.
Not surprised Jon Jones is out. Just didn't do enough the last 2 games.
Smith having an excellent year on teams.
Excited to final see Logan in the line up.
Three Canadian DTs?
OL will have there hands full with Montreal's DL.
Quote from: RebusRankin on August 20, 2025, 02:56:27 PMWhat's your evidence that Weitz is good on teams?
Blue In BC says so and I trust him
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 03:57:08 PMI guess Schmeck showed he was the next DT up over Kornelson but with Jake nearing the end I can't believe they released him. Maybe he didn't show a good work ethic or maybe he requested his release?
I'm pretty glad we're not relying on a back of the PR player to be a replacement starter for us.
No offence to Korny and congrats on the career. Most never make it this far. But at a certain point, players hit their ceiling and, for most, it isn't good enough to make professional football team. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 20, 2025, 06:27:08 PM
Friesen couldn't think of more awkward questions if he tried, the sound of his voice make me cringe!
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 03:57:08 PMI guess Schmeck showed he was the next DT up over Kornelson but with Jake nearing the end I can't believe they released him. Maybe he didn't show a good work ethic or maybe he requested his release?
Can't ever understand why they keep bringing Weitz back but I suppose Mike Miller takes his ST roster very seriously and requests certain moves be made to achieve that aim and MOS complies.
Kornelson is a numbers game
Weitz is good on teams
Thomas had a monster game and is a good depth guy
Yes ST is important
Quote from: Pete on August 20, 2025, 02:09:41 PMI dont see us getting a comfortable margin ,mtrls front 7 is too good, and , Zac hasnt been great under pressure ty
Also for some reason as soon as we get a lead we go very conservative, letting the other team drive the field with underneath stuff. Hopefully we learned something the last two games with blown leads
I also have the feeling that Zac will be in full game management mode. The one thing we dont want to do is let mtrl's d best us (again) with turnovers
Zach will be slinging and taking advantage of there secondary
Yes he needs protection, if he gets that and our run game is good, we win
Turnovers key as well, agree
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Quote from: gobombersgo on August 20, 2025, 05:02:08 PMOfficial: Montreal Alouettes to start QB James Morgan against Blue Bombers
By 3Down Staff -August 20, 2025
The Montreal Alouettes will start James Morgan at quarterback against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers on Thursday night.
The 28-year-old native of Green Bay, Wis. played three quarters against the B.C. Lions last week in relief of Caleb Evans, who is out for the season after suffering a torn ACL. He completed 20-of-33 pass attempts for 211 yards, one touchdown, and one interception as his team lost 36-18.
The six-foot-four, 229-pound passer was originally a fourth-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft by the New York Jets out of Florida International University. He spent time with five different NFL teams and the Pittsburgh Maulers of the USFL before signing with the Alouettes last year, spending most of the season on the practice roster.
Shea Patterson, who signed with the Alouettes earlier this week, will dress as the third-stringer behind Morgan and Cameron Dukes. Montreal's top three quarterbacks — Davis Alexander, McLeod Bethel-Thompson, and Evans — are all on the six-game injured list.
The Alouettes have made two other changes to the roster as Canadian running back Sean Thomas-Erlington (neck) and field-side cornerbacker Kabion Ento (calf) have returned to the lineup. Thomas-Erlington has dressed for nine games on the year and rushed for 361 yards and two touchdowns, while Ento has played seven, recording 21 defensive tackles and three interceptions.
Canadian fullback David Dallaire and defensive back Robert Kennedy III have both been moved to the one-game injured list. With Ento returning, veteran defensive back Ciante Evans has been moved to field-side halfback in Kennedy's place.
Some key players who remain out for the Alouettes due to injury include receivers Austin Mack and Tyson Philpot, offensive lineman Justin Lawrence, defensive lineman Mustafa Johnson, defensive backs Dionte Ruffin and Marc-Antoine Dequoy, and returner James Letcher Jr.
The Montreal Alouettes (5-5) will host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (5-4) at Percival Molson Stadium on Thursday, August 21 with kickoff slated for 7:30 p.m. EDT. The Blue Bombers are coming off a walk-off win over the Ottawa Redblacks, while Montreal lost 36-18 on the road to the B.C. Lions.
The weather forecast in Montreal calls for a high of 27 degrees with a mix of sun and cloud. The game will be broadcast on TSN and RDS in Canada, CBS Sports Network in the United States, and CFL+ internationally. Radio listeners can tune-in on 680 CJOB in Winnipeg and TSN 690 in Montreal.
https://3downnation.com/2025/08/20/official-montreal-alouettes-to-start-qb-james-morgan-against-blue-bombers/
I don't remember Morgan throwing one pass longer than 20 yards.I would play their receivers close because I don't see them going deep.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 20, 2025, 07:11:53 PMBlue In BC says so and I trust him
I don't remember Weitz taking any reps on defence. Essentially he gets on the roster to play ST's and even then it's when we run out of Canadian ST players. Due to injuries to Hallett and Novak we ran out of those options.
Ayers, J. Jones and all the Canadian draft choices are the depth at every LB position. That's why I said, I'd cut Weitz out right but there is no upside for him playing steady. He may not be a bad ST player but that's the role for 1/3 of our roster and back up Canadians and some imports as well.
I wonder if Munier-Bailey can play on ST's if needed. A 2 @ pick in the draft with a reported high upside as a defensive player. When and how does he ever get on the roster?
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 10:27:21 PMI don't remember Weitz taking any reps on defence. Essentially he gets on the roster to play ST's and even then it's when we run out of Canadian ST players. Due to injuries to Hallett and Novak we ran out of those options.
Ayers, J. Jones and all the Canadian draft choices are the depth at every LB position. That's why I said, I'd cut Weitz out right but there is no upside for him playing steady. He may not be a bad ST player but that's the role for 1/3 of our roster and back up Canadians and some imports as well.
I wonder if Munier-Bailey can play on ST's if needed. A 2 @ pick in the draft with a reported high upside as a defensive player. When and how does he ever get on the roster?
Weitz has not been good on teams. 9 games. 1 ST. I am waiting for Bailey to get his chance. Good size and moves very well. He has some quickness.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 20, 2025, 10:57:07 PMWeitz has not been good on teams. 9 games. 1 ST. I am waiting for Bailey to get his chance. Good size and moves very well. He has some quickness.
I believe Blue In BC said he was playing well on teams
Stats don't always paint the complete picture
He was added to play teams so I'm sure the Bombers like what they see
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 07:22:24 PMFriesen couldn't think of more awkward questions if he tried, the sound of his voice make me cringe!
Friesen should retire already, honestly I wouldn't want to be interviewed by him or the screaming kids in the background
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2025, 07:22:24 PMFriesen couldn't think of more awkward questions if he tried, the sound of his voice make me cringe!
Okay I finally watched this. I assume it is PF at the beginning with questions, then at about 2:50 or 3:00, and then the last question.
I couldn't agree more - I physically cringed hearing some of those questions. Logan handled them with class all the way through. I don't know if it was Ed Tait (I did hear him asking good questions) saying that he sounds like a bomber, but that was true. He's clearly a team player, at least talks like one, and he showed no selfishness or "me" attitude, despite PF doing his best to pry it out of him.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 20, 2025, 05:57:19 PMWe need to "Longest Yard" Lemon. Let him through and hit him with the groin shot pass.
Just setup a CFL gambling kiosk near the LoS and Lemon will naturally gravitate towards it, leaving a big hole for Brady to plow through.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 04:02:02 PMWe lost Novak earlier and now Hallett that both played well on ST's.
Out of all those guys Hallett is a guaranteed AR dress once he's healthy again. What on earth does "eye" mean on the IR report? Whatever it is, bet he's back real soon.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2025, 03:07:20 PMWhy did they move Peterson to the PR? Is the theory that Logan becomes the back up RB even though it creates a ratio problem when he goes on offence for a few plays? Essentially moving Peterson created a roster spot for Weitz.
Chance of Brady injury is very low. Logan as backup is no different than when Cooley was, or McCrae back when.
It's a good use of roster, and we did find a way to get both returners dressed. It'll be really fun returns, which will probably be fielded by both guys.
As for ratio, no problem. Corcoran can replace an IMP (many underperformers to choose from), or we can go jumbo (+1 or +2) a heck of a lot, which we like anyhow.
Quote from: Ridermania on August 20, 2025, 02:59:17 PMHonestly, no reason that the Bombers lose this game.
Montreal is a mess right now.
Well, they are slightly less of a mess with Ento back. Strong side no longer a freebie. If I'm Hogan, I'm throwing boundary all night. Oh ya, and that FS is weak too. Maybe avoid Sutton a bit. Lots of post routes against their weaker HBs and FS.
I really wish Ento had been IR'd for 1 more week, but c'est la vie. Never forget what he did to us in the GC (lookin' at you, Zach!)...
Quote from: LXTSN on August 20, 2025, 02:54:41 PMWhen Houston is ready, who comes off the roster now? Vaval, Cam Allen or Ayers?
Ayers, unless we have another answer at FS by then.
That said, I can easily see us dressing only one of Vaval/Logan as each opponent dictates. Sometimes the extra DB will make sense, sometimes the extra RB/REC option. Sometimes (like this week) both.
It will also be important to see who "wins" as the strongest CB: Vaval or Lawson. If it's Vaval, then Lawson may be PR or cut when Houston returns (esp when Parker comes back too).
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 20, 2025, 02:00:11 PMThomas, Schmekel and Lawson all in means we can rotate an all Canadian interior if we want. Particularly on passing downs probably.
Except our goal is usually the opposite: all IMP DL. :D :D
Plus, besides Fatboi, only 1 other NAT starter on D (Kramdi). No sense fielding more NATs than we have to per snap.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2025, 02:05:29 AMChance of Brady injury is very low. Logan as backup is no different than when Cooley was, or McCrae back when.
It's a good use of roster, and we did find a way to get both returners dressed. It'll be really fun returns, which will probably be fielded by both guys.
As for ratio, no problem. Corcoran can replace an IMP (many underperformers to choose from), or we can go jumbo (+1 or +2) a heck of a lot, which we like anyhow.
This alone is a good reason to watch - not that anyone needed another reason.
I sure hope they do this, at least for some ST plays.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2025, 02:02:53 AMOut of all those guys Hallett is a guaranteed AR dress once he's healthy again. What on earth does "eye" mean on the IR report? Whatever it is, bet he's back real soon.
Finger in the eye maybe or rubber pellets from the turf?
Quote from: Pigskin on August 20, 2025, 10:57:07 PMWeitz has not been good on teams. 9 games. 1 ST. I am waiting for Bailey to get his chance. Good size and moves very well. He has some quickness.
Well the stats don't always tell the entire picture. However, if he's not good on ST's what the heck is he doing on the AR? I have noticed him at times on coverage teams a few times. He isn't getting any defensive reps so I've mentioned / questioned why they keep him around.
I'd like to see Bailey as well Lots of hype trading to get him at # 2 pick this year. If you have to add a 2nd global I'd think he has more value??
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2025, 02:05:29 AMChance of Brady injury is very low. Logan as backup is no different than when Cooley was, or McCrae back when.
It's a good use of roster, and we did find a way to get both returners dressed. It'll be really fun returns, which will probably be fielded by both guys.
As for ratio, no problem. Corcoran can replace an IMP (many underperformers to choose from), or we can go jumbo (+1 or +2) a heck of a lot, which we like anyhow.
Actually Logan is probably not listed as a DI? Castillo, Ayers, Person and Griffin are probably the DI's. We're starting more than 7 Canadians so we have at least 1 import that is just an extra.
In regard to Peterson, we traded to get him and he showed well in pr season and a couple of games. As a Canadian he might be part of a succession plan or long time injury replacement for Brady if that happens.
Logan will be ok for an in game injury or alternate receiver and trick plays, but I can't imagine he'd be the primary RB.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2025, 02:28:05 AMFinger in the eye maybe or rubber pellets from the turf?
For 2 whole weeks? Weird
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2025, 02:35:04 AMIn regard to Peterson, we traded to get him and he showed well in pr season and a couple of games. As a Canadian he might be part of a succession plan or long time injury replacement for Brady if that happens.
Peterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2025, 02:35:04 AMLogan will be ok for an in game injury or alternate receiver and trick plays, but I can't imagine he'd be the primary RB.
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2025, 02:28:05 AMFinger in the eye maybe or rubber pellets from the turf?
Who was it that had an eye IR?
My best guess is a finger in the eye - I remember some commentary from retired players years ago saying that was a common thing, getting hit with fingers in the eye intentionally by the opposing player in an attempt to injure and take out of the game. I honestly can't remember if it was linemen saying that, but it was a common experience and might still be a factor.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2025, 02:59:13 AMPeterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
This is exactly what I always thought as well.
And it would be a luxury if Logan>Mitchell as REC - I don't mind having roster problems when players are shining and we have to figure out how to get them on the AR.
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 21, 2025, 03:02:33 AMWho was it that had an eye IR?
Hallett The Remaining has been listed on the post-practice injury report has head/eye all week. It's not something you usually see. Usually you flush it out, give it a couple of days and forget about it.
Yes, nasty players wanting to injure would love the eye-pokes. Harder to do on ST, though! (one would think)
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2025, 02:59:13 AMPeterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
God I sure hope not, I expect better out of Hogan and more out of Peterson. Imagine dedicating your life to training for football only to be ****-blocked by a coach who won't allow you to play.
I think the way Johnny has been treated and mostly ignored by coaches is based on his meeker personality. If Petersen sees this happening he should head out the door as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
Logan is here primarily as a returner, he may get a few sweeps thrown his way but he's unlikely to sub in as primary RB even if Brady gets injured.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 21, 2025, 03:26:45 AMLogan is here primarily as a returner, he may get a few sweeps thrown his way but he's unlikely to sub in as primary RB even if Brady gets injured.
Well, intra-game he certainly would sub in a primary RB if Brady got hurt! Because there's nobody else...
And no reason Logan can't be used for the odd O set just like Grant was. If anything, Logan was shown to be
more of an O asset than Grant ever was. Heck, maybe he'll become a Speedy B primary-O guy eventually, who knows.
Keys to the game for us:
1 Win the turnover battle,
2 Protect Collaros, 6 man fronts, misdirection, and have Zac rollout more
Do those two things and we win
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2025, 03:52:59 AMWell, intra-game he certainly would sub in a primary RB if Brady got hurt! Because there's nobody else...
And no reason Logan can't be used for the odd O set just like Grant was. If anything, Logan was shown to be more of an O asset than Grant ever was. Heck, maybe he'll become a Speedy B primary-O guy eventually, who knows.
I think posters are underestimating the impact Logan can have. In Calgary he was used as a great change of pace to Mills. He is also a very elusive reciever out of the backfield. It may take a game or two but that is why we were excited to sign him
I want to see our SY go 100% on 3rd, and be able to make 1.33+ every sneak. Surely they don't just sit there all week without coming up with new plans, and practice to hone their craft. I don't mind if Strev missed one this season as long as he goes 99.9% the rest of the way.
It would also be nice to get more than our customary 0 points in the 3rd. Surely we can scheme a stop on D (for some reason we never get the ball to start the 3rd). Surely we can do better than 2 & out when we get the ball.
These are all known issues. No excuse to repeat the errors every game ad nauseam.
I want to see a few INTs by our DBs. We should be able to pick on the new QB. Play the usual tricks. Bait & goad. Harass and force. Get that QB so confused it gets Maas' ears extra red and he goes nuts throwing everyone's headset.
I'll be pretty quiet on the GDT for this one. Doing the rare party-watch at my buddy's. You guys make a lot of chatter! I'll need stuff to read when I get home for the rewatch. The rule should be we need at least as many posts as the Riderforum has for our game!!
Just win a road game, please!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2025, 02:59:13 AMPeterson is Johnny 27. That's basically it. He will be used precisely as Johnny was. Which means 99% he's dressed as Brady in-game injury replacement. And he'd be a short/mid-term inter-game replacement if Brady is IR.
I doubt he becomes the next Brady. He seems more like a Johnny. But I could be wrong... I used to think no way Brady becomes the next Andrew!
No way Logan is primary RB unless Brady gets hurt. Brady almost never gets spelled. We never do the much-called-for 2 RB set. So that leaves Logan to maybe take the odd SB snap? However, if Logan>Mitchell as REC, we have a major roster problem...
It's a little early to know how Peterson will develop. I'm just saying he's a favorable ratio option in game or longer term if Oliveria is hurt and misses a few games. That has already happened in 2025.
I don't think they'd use Logan as the primary if BO misses a game and we've already released Cooley.
We're essentially in agreement.
Two consecutive games with early lead, and collapse.
Maas/ Calvillo v. Younger, Hogan v. Thorpe.
I think we need some improvements in coaching to win this game.
Quote from: markf on August 21, 2025, 02:54:00 PMTwo consecutive games with early lead, and collapse.
Maas/ Calvillo v. Younger, Hogan v. Thorpe.
I think we need some improvements in coaching to win this game.
If the Als weren't missing so many starters I'd agree. Just the fact they are starting their # 4 QB is going to be a huge issue. Add missing Philpot and Mack on offence and they should struggle. Defensively they are missing starters as well.
The advantage they do have is that we don't seem to play well in Montreal. Road games have been more difficult for the Bombers by in large.
If they can't figure out how to play 60 minutes, that's another issue.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2025, 03:20:35 PMIf the Als weren't missing so many starters I'd agree. Just the fact they are starting their # 4 QB is going to be a huge issue. Add missing Philpot and Mack on offence and they should struggle. Defensively they are missing starters as well.
The advantage they do have is that we don't seem to play well in Montreal. Road games have been more difficult for the Bombers by in large.
If they can't figure out how to play 60 minutes, that's another issue.
My major concern is that the Bomber History regarding rookie opposing QB's is not good. We tend to make rookie QB's look like Allstars when they first appear. And if the Als QB is fleet afoot we are in for even more trouble.
Quote from: Pete on August 21, 2025, 04:19:14 AMKeys to the game for us:
1 Win the turnover battle,
2 Protect Collaros, 6 man fronts, misdirection, and have Zac rollout more
Do those two things and we win
And give Brady the ball. Especially in the 2nd half.
Unless he's constantly stuffed. Hard to win in that scenario. Probably then will need a couple more Sergio bombs to win another squeaker.
Montreal is banged up bad.
1-Game Injured List
24 DEQUOY, Marc-Antoine DB N 6'1 195
48 ENTO, Kabion DB A 6'1 190
54 LAWRENCE, Justin OL N 6'0 305
89 LETCHER JR, James WR A 5'7 180
81 MACK, Austin WR A 6'1 208
6 PHILPOT, Tyson WR N 5'11 190
6-Game Injured List
10 ALEXANDER, Davis QB A 5'11 210
23 BEAUCHEMIN, Nate DB N 6'1 204
94 JOHNSON, Mustafa DL A 6'0 285
49 LESSARD, Gabriel LB N 6'2 233
83 OLADEJO, Daniel WR N 6'0 185
22 RUFFIN, Dionte DB A 5'9 177
Not including Evans out for the season...
This is the classic trap game, where we tend to play down to the level of our opponents.
MOS and crew need to come out hard and fast and keep the foot on their neck, drop a 50 burger on them without mercy.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2025, 03:20:35 PMIf the Als weren't missing so many starters I'd agree. Just the fact they are starting their # 4 QB is going to be a huge issue. Add missing Philpot and Mack on offence and they should struggle. Defensively they are missing starters as well.
The advantage they do have is that we don't seem to play well in Montreal. Road games have been more difficult for the Bombers by in large.
If they can't figure out how to play 60 minutes, that's another issue.
Maybe #4 QB but Morgan is 28 and in his second full season with the team, he's also been through the NFL ringer with 6 different teams, so he has both potential and variable experience. Reminds me a bit of MBT in his build, play style and the path he took to get to the CFL. Both Shea Patterson and Cam Dukes are on the roster tonight, if Morgan fails to keep them in the game Maas won't hesitate to switch as the Als are just as desperate to get their next win as the Bombers.
Quote from: theaardvark on August 21, 2025, 04:37:18 PMMontreal is banged up bad.
1-Game Injured List
24 DEQUOY, Marc-Antoine DB N 6'1 195
48 ENTO, Kabion DB A 6'1 190
54 LAWRENCE, Justin OL N 6'0 305
89 LETCHER JR, James WR A 5'7 180
81 MACK, Austin WR A 6'1 208
6 PHILPOT, Tyson WR N 5'11 190
6-Game Injured List
10 ALEXANDER, Davis QB A 5'11 210
23 BEAUCHEMIN, Nate DB N 6'1 204
94 JOHNSON, Mustafa DL A 6'0 285
49 LESSARD, Gabriel LB N 6'2 233
83 OLADEJO, Daniel WR N 6'0 185
22 RUFFIN, Dionte DB A 5'9 177
Not including Evans out for the season...
This is the classic trap game, where we tend to play down to the level of our opponents.
MOS and crew need to come out hard and fast and keep the foot on their neck, drop a 50 burger on them without mercy.
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Dream scenario...absolute annihilation on offence, defence and special teams. 4TD's on offence, 1 on Defence and 1 by Special teams.
Sign me up...MOS won't run the score up on his buddy.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 21, 2025, 04:40:58 PM[/b]
Dream scenario...absolute annihilation on offence, defence and special teams. 4TD's on offence, 1 on Defence and 1 by Special teams.
Sign me up...MOS won't run the score up on his buddy.
Who's his buddy?
And we've dropped 50-burgers on teams multiple times under MOS. We obviously do it if we can.
This game shouldn't be a close battle. I'll be disappointed it we don't win easily considering their injuries.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2025, 04:58:15 PMThis game shouldn't be a close battle. I'll be disappointed it we don't win easily considering their injuries.
the thing is mtrls front 7 won't give Zac time to go long which means we'll have to work our way up the field, short passes runs etc, which takes time.
Add in our defense which operates on a bend dont break method, and its hard to run away with a game. Unfortunately this d helps a young qb as they can throw the quick easy paases
Quote from: Pete on August 21, 2025, 05:04:09 PMthe thing is mtrls front 7 won't give Zac time to go long which means we'll have to work our way up the field, short passes runs etc, which takes time.
Add in our defense which operates on a bend dont break method, and its hard to run away with a game. Unfortunately this d helps a young qb as they can throw the quick easy paases
We don't go deep very often and don't have the receivers to do that well. I expect massive pressure on Morgan to be the difference maker. I expect the Bombers to win TOP and field position with everything considered.
Our defence should be using more bump and run on their receivers to screw up the timing. I wouldn't suggest that if Mack and Philpot were playing.
Quote from: Pete on August 21, 2025, 05:04:09 PMthe thing is mtrls front 7 won't give Zac time to go long which means we'll have to work our way up the field, short passes runs etc, which takes time.
Add in our defense which operates on a bend dont break method, and its hard to run away with a game. Unfortunately this d helps a young qb as they can throw the quick easy paases
The Als are also allowing like 30 points/game over the last three weeks.
Quote from: Jesse on August 21, 2025, 04:45:18 PMWho's his buddy?
And we've dropped 50-burgers on teams multiple times under MOS. We obviously do it if we can.
him and Maas are friends...we will score 50 if it happens on turnovers or ST but MOS generally will put the offense into idle mode if ahead by a lot.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 21, 2025, 06:11:27 PMhim and Maas are friends...we will score 50 if it happens on turnovers or ST but MOS generally will put the offense into idle mode if ahead by a lot.
This offence has to progress beyond the deadzone of multiple 2 and outs they've been stuck in the past 2 games.
Not sure there's really a 'trap' game for a team that's 5-4 but I agree it's one we should win.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 21, 2025, 06:15:39 PMThis offence has to progress beyond the deadzone of multiple 2 and outs they've been stuck in the past 2 games.
it has been more than 2 games this season...there have been more games than that where we disappear offensively for a quarter. I was looking through the stats to see if I could find a "first downs" count done by quarter but couldn't find it. It would be very interesting to see how many quarters we have played where there are 0-3 first downs attained.
Quote from: Jesse on August 21, 2025, 04:45:18 PMWho's his buddy?
And we've dropped 50-burgers on teams multiple times under MOS. We obviously do it if we can.
Do we have the horses to drop a 50-burger?
Quote from: BBRT on August 21, 2025, 03:57:07 PMMy major concern is that the Bomber History regarding rookie opposing QB's is not good. We tend to make rookie QB's look like Allstars when they first appear. And if the Als QB is fleet afoot we are in for even more trouble.
Zero concern about that
Tough not to have a nice feeling heading into this one.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 21, 2025, 10:45:59 PMTough not to have a nice feeling heading into this one.
Which is terrifying.
Hope Zach doesn't throw any hospital balls tonight, he almost killed Wheatfall last game, they can't afford to lose another receiver.
CJOB is 80% Commercials 20% show. What a waste of time!
Taylor is great at yelling into his mic as well.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 21, 2025, 11:20:34 PMCJOB is 80% Commercials 20% show. What a waste of time!
Taylor is great at yelling into his mic as well.
I think Taylor's great!
Worried about this game
Bombers always make unknown qbs look like all pros in their first game
Spit it out Enoc. :D
Quote from: Jesse on August 21, 2025, 11:01:56 PMWhich is terrifying.
Nope it's exciting
Quote from: Sway on August 21, 2025, 11:26:42 PMWorried about this game
Bombers always make unknown qbs look like all pros in their first game
Not worried at all
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 21, 2025, 11:18:03 PMHope Zach doesn't throw any hospital balls tonight, he almost killed Wheatfall last game, they can't afford to lose another receiver.
Tight windows win ball games
I'm like Rod Smith and Lapo.
Ok come on Zach and co.
ZC should have ran...
could of run for it - darn
Dam Zach so gimpy.
pick 6 this guy!!
Sheahan near top in net yards but some wanted to cut him
A great punter and very happy Bomber brass stayed the course
Tsn + forgetting to show the game.
Good 2 and out on D.
Quote from: barbk on August 21, 2025, 11:41:11 PMZC should have ran...
That was an easy throw, he should have made it catchable.
Nice rhythm here...
Nice Nic Nice!
Goldie.. do you miss hearing those airhorns?
All that work and we have to settle for FG
Quote from: barbk on August 21, 2025, 11:50:21 PMGoldie.. do you miss hearing those airhorns?
NO
Zach showing little confidence. Jeezzzus
Why did he give up on the pass so fast? He ain't right in the head man.
First and goal at the 6
Would it kill you to run the ball?
Zach looks fine, taking what is given
Zach looks confident
He is right in the head man
The throw wasn't there
Wow
Quote from: bunker on August 21, 2025, 11:52:28 PMFirst and goal at the 6
Would it kill you to run the ball?
Stacked the box wasn't there on 1st down
Quote from: bunker on August 21, 2025, 11:52:28 PMFirst and goal at the 6
Would it kill you to run the ball?
no kidding bone headed play calling yet again. hogan you continue to outsmart yourself. Boooo
Here we go with the big plays....
27 burned. Whooof
Lawson got sucked in so bad.
Well look at that - when it was short, how do we not end up covering that?
gotta get TD's...great teams score td's
we got torched - amateur hour. lawson might be cut
So embarrassing.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 21, 2025, 11:54:55 PMgotta get TD's...great teams score td's
we got torched - amateur hour. lawson might be cut
He certainly won't be starting over Houston again.
LOOK HOGAN, THEY RUN THE F'IN BALL!
Losing Kramdi would hurt BAD
Hard to tell what it is
Kramdi we need you... get up and please don't be injured
Losing Kramdi would hurt BAD
Hard to tell what it is
Quote from: The Zipp on August 21, 2025, 11:54:55 PMgotta get TD's...great teams score td's
we got torched - amateur hour. lawson might be cut
Nope PR likely or 1 game bit on a good double move on a top receiver he will learn
Quote from: barbk on August 21, 2025, 11:57:13 PMKramdi we need you... get up and please don't be injured
Many levels of good juju here, everyone have positive thoughts
Kramdi head injury all the way.
Looks positive - stretch on the neck, no damage hopefully.
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 21, 2025, 11:59:12 PMLooks positive - stretch on the neck, no damage hopefully.
Awesome and Lawson with a blanket
Bend no break baby
The no horns is quite nice!
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 21, 2025, 11:59:39 PMAwesome and Lawson with a blanket
Bend no break baby
That would be Vaval.
At least Montreal only got a FG PHEW
Logan looks a little slowgan
Should come on as he goes
Logan, meh so far...
Hogan just does not want to run with Brady. I hate this guy!
Zach cool as a cuc
Hogan will run patience my friend
I like him but yes needs a wee bit more run
zach felt the pressure. great play
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 12:04:08 AMHogan just does not want to run with Brady. I hate this guy!
That didn't age well...
See what happens when you run the ball
Brady beast!!!!!
sometimes Lapo just needs to hush
BO - feed the beast
Brady wants to kill someone out there. GIVE HIM THE BALL!
Yeah yeah yeah
Zach is making me sick.
ref left his coffin for this game.
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 12:05:07 AMThat didn't age well...
RTP
nice
Kinda weak but I'll take it
We got away with that but gave us a TD
TOUCH DOWN DEMSKI
Bit on run hard
Nice play
Demski and top guy
Money
Offense looks polished
Hogan great mix
Great call
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 12:07:32 AMRTP
nice
Kinda weak but I'll take it
The contact was so late though.
Amazing how much holding takes place on kickoff returns. Only the most egregious gets called.
Nice road quarter overall.
OMG Lapo and Smith
Lapo is so pale. lol
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:11:33 AMAmazing how much holding takes place on kickoff returns. Only the most egregious gets called.
If ain't cheating ain't trying
Goldmember there is no reason to name call but yes I won't quote you as requested but I'll challenge your strong opinions as needed as I don't agree with much of you have posted today. No need to get nasty.
Lapo needs a downer. Holy moly.
nice toss
Little late on coverage
vaval toasted
We fall for this horse **** again. Brutal.
Our DB are trash
making Morgan look like Rodgers out there
Making a 4th string QB look like an all star
This is gross.
4th stringer and missing 2 top weapons. Looked EZ PEEZE
K
not gonna win with this defence
4th string QB making it look easy. Maas miles ahead of JY. Pretty simple offense, run, go deep.
can't get houston in quick enough
Montreal's Oline dominating our D line so far. Jake Thomas brings nothing.
Morgan is actually pretty good.
Seems well organised, gets play off quickly, threw some nice passes.
the CFL needs some quarterbacks.
Younger! WTH are you doing?
defence is a day late and a dollar short..
7 play 70 yard drive given up
Morgan showing the belt, egad.
Quote from: bluengold204 on August 22, 2025, 12:17:06 AMOur DB are trash
Nope we have injuries and starting to inexperienced corners
Once healthy our DBs are fine
Holm Nichols Houston are all good to great
Parker is average
Rest learning their craft
Logan , hesitant.
Put Laval on returns
Logan looks uselessj.
Quote from: markf on August 22, 2025, 12:19:14 AMMorgan is actually pretty good.
Seems well organised, gets play off quickly, threw some nice passes.
the CFL needs some quarterbacks.
Very impressive arm and calmness in pocket
Quote from: Sway on August 22, 2025, 12:20:57 AMLogan , hesitant.
Put Laval on returns
Disagree give him time
Vaval needs to focus on D
Enough of the east/west pass plays. Does Hogan not realize we don't have the receivers to block these plays?
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:19:07 AMMontreal's Oline dominating our D line so far. Jake Thomas brings nothing.
Nah Jake is a good depth Canadian coming off a great game
put the hitch screen play on ice please.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 12:22:06 AMThis aged poorly.
No it didn't its early now you just trying to get a rise, so much game left, really stetching here
Goldmember don't pile on please you can't take my replies so don't feed other people's shots on me please thanks
Shovel Pass our top play
Are our WRs just not getting open?
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 12:23:00 AMput the hitch screen play on ice please.
Disagree
Key part of our 0
Demski is our only receiver who seems to be open and comes back to ZC
Beautiful throw Zach
Demski is my hero
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 12:24:44 AMDemski is our only receiver who seems to be open and comes back to ZC
Over generalizing imo disagree
just run the ball on tempo
overthinking
Solid 2nd and 1 play.
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:25:19 AMHogan is an idiot
Run the f'in ball
We love getting sacked on 2nd and short.
geeezzz what a dumb call/play!!
Hogans wants to make me puke!
Why aren't we going for FG. ;)
Awesome punt!!!
Hogan isn't as bad as many make him out to be. He will learn and improve as we go.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 12:25:56 AMWe love getting sacked on 2nd and short.
This is hard to witness. Is Hogan for real? So bad!
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 12:22:56 AMNah Jake is a good depth Canadian coming off a great game
He wouldn't start for any other team in the league, and won't make most rosters. The guys had 400 reps this year...blind squirrel analogy.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 12:24:32 AMAre our WRs just not getting open?
This is THE question
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:27:27 AMHe wouldn't start for any other team in the league, and won't make most rosters. The guys had 400 reps this year...blind squirrel analogy.
Jake is a good depth CDN and brings a lot to this club as I have posted about in the past
Overstating the negative on him, like many others
Stud no
Steady and valued member yes
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 12:26:33 AMAwesome punt!!!
Hogan isn't as bad as many make him out to be. He will learn and improve as we go.
Sort of like Bridges and Kornelson eh? You defended them to the death too.
Wow Snead huge year, love this guy
Well that Morgan pass was ugly.
Air ball after we got to the QB!!!!
Person sighting
That Morgan pass wasn't ugly he got hit impacting the throwing motion
We got home baby
Pick Holm
maas may challenge this - looked like he hit him in the head
Nice work Person. Kudos.
Could probably challenge roughing passer
Hope not
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 12:29:25 AMJake is a good depth CDN and brings a lot to this club as I have posted about in the past
Overstating the negative on him, like many others
Stud no
Steady and valued member yes
He's not depth! Wake up. He's taking the majority of reps at DT
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:29:51 AMSort of like Bridges and Kornelson eh? You defended them to the death too.
Fake news I never defended Kornelson once nice try there
Bridges didn't work out and the club seen promise in him,didn't work out, he was choosen out of camp and unfortunately we didn't have other options but now we do
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:31:47 AMHe's not depth! Wake up. He's taking the majority of reps at DT
Nope he rotates
He is a good depth Cdn DL always has been always will be
End is near but not not
loss of yards and now demski is hurt
Demski down
PANIC PANIC PANIC
I wouldn't play him today
Rest up my friend
Another East/West play for negative yardage. And now the loss of our best receiver.
that will be it for this game for demski
best Bomber this year
Not good we got no receivers
Person's lucky he didn't get flagged for contact with Morgan's head
Gross play calling.
Demski hurt. Greaaat
Our best player on O.... come on Demski we need you, please don't be hurt
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 12:34:49 AMOur best player on O.... come on Demski we need you, please don't be hurt
Everyone needs good juju for 10
Zach on a rope to Wheat
Nice
Nice pass and catch to Wheatfall.
Tough sledding inside runs
Face masking! ***!
Strev time baby
Who got facemasked?
Some of our o lineman are not quick. Easy to run around. Right tackle for instance
Zach is playing really well under the circumstances
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 12:36:26 AMTough sledding inside runs
Wynn and Oakman are excellent...but we're happy with mediocre
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:37:54 AMWynn and Oakman are excellent...but we're happy with mediocre
Our DL is not mediocre imo
Yes those guys are studs
Aahhh I hope that is Kramdi's mom in the stands
think it was more than a yard
Took the 3 guess was long yard
Man, a 13 yard and a 20 yard field goal.
Just can't finish.
Zach has done a pretty good job, given Montreal's D and what he has to work with on O, plus our OC
Now Oshea has no faith in Strevs
Kinda don't blame him
But we don't have to always do the lame sneak. Could be more creative
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:40:24 AMZach has done a pretty good job, given Montreal's D and what he has to work with on O, plus our OC
16/18 for 166 and a TD.
Which is not uncommon for him in the first half. The test will be the second half.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 12:39:27 AMOur DL is not mediocre imo
Yes those guys are studs
Not the whole d-line
Was referring to our "depth" DT
Quote from: Sway on August 22, 2025, 12:40:56 AMNow Oshea has no faith in Strevs
Kinda don't blame him
But we don't have to always do the lame sneak. Could be more creative
He has 100% faith, Strev has an great success rate
Took points on a long 3rd and 1
32 beast
2 and OUT
Good D here.
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:42:00 AMNot the whole d-line
Was referring to our "depth" DT
We have a good mix of studs, average players and depth guys imo
Really need a 3 here
Hogan nice!!!
Two runs
Guy is figuring it out baby
Nice to see some holes for Brady
That flag hurts bad!!!!!
Nice they got one too
REDO
Awesome play calling money baby
corcoran come on !!
81 can't handle the heat big drop
And why couldn't he catch that... where is Mitchell?
Corcoran booo
Sterns is just money but now is hurt
He is a good receiver this looks bad, o maybe ok
That was such a big hit
the drop off from demski to corcoran is grand canyon size
hospital ball to sterns
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 12:47:43 AMAnd why couldn't he catch that... where is Mitchell?
M. I. A.
Zach kills another WR
Great catch
But we're running out of receivers
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 12:48:27 AMthe drop off from demski to corcoran is grand canyon size
hospital ball to sterns
No doubt!
I feel cheated that we didn't try one more play there.
Incredible, burn a timeout for nothing. What a gong show this season is turning out to be.
Good throw was tipped don't see why people are critical there
Safety clobbered
Clobbers happy
Quote from: jdrattops on August 22, 2025, 12:50:40 AMIncredible, burn a timeout for nothing. What a gong show this season is turning out to be.
Hasn't been a gong show imo
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 12:50:22 AMI feel cheated that we didn't try one more play there.
Unfortunate
Sergio no mistake. Good.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 12:50:22 AMI feel cheated that we didn't try one more play there.
Might be just as well lol
Zach might have forced a throw into the end zone
That wasn't a hospital ball...receiver was open, good pass across the middle
Big clean hit by the defender.
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 12:51:55 AMMight be just as well lol
Zach might have forced a throw into the end zone
😂
Quote from: markf on August 22, 2025, 12:52:03 AMThat wasn't a hospital ball...receiver was open, good pass across the middle
Big clean hit by the defender.
Agree all some are really stretching and looking to extend a narrative on Zach that simply wasn't there
Nice pass better catch
Not tipped likely different outcome as well
Quote from: jdrattops on August 22, 2025, 12:50:40 AMIncredible, burn a timeout for nothing. What a gong show this season is turning out to be.
I didn't even think about this. That must have been a major screw up by someone. If you weren't going to try for a play, you would have just put the kicking team out there.
For someone like MOS, who refuses to challenge obvious plays because he doesn't want to risk losing a time out, that's a big fail.
Geez. Both of our CB's gave up a 45 yard pass. It's great that Morgan only has 51 yards passing and is 3 / 7. Getting suckered by a double pass with Snead throwing up the other deep shot is particularly annoying.
If this is a contest to see which CB wins one spot, it's a draw at the moment.
I know it's only his 1st game but not getting much out of Logan, or even Vaval on any returns.
Briefly saw Weitz flash on a K/O return. Not sure if or what he did on the play but he was on the field.
Person made a couple of good plays.
Allen is a keeper from the early results.
Injuries. Not sure if they let Demski back in tonight. Didn't look serious but teams tend to play it safe. Sterns should be back.
Collaros playing well but not getting a lot of time to throw.
With only a six point lead, hopefully Hogan plays aggressive in 2nd half
Streveler at SB time?
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 12:52:54 AMAgree all some are really stretching and looking to extend a narrative on Zach that simply wasn't there
Nice pass better catch
Not tipped likely different outcome as well
I don't think it was on Zach, it was just the situation and how it turned out - it was a big risk in the end with the catch and immediate hit, while stretched out.
The tip contributed, and no it isn't on Zach and not a criticism to him, just unfortunate that Sterns was exposed like that.
Burning that time out for nothing was stupid
Will Oshea admit that was a mistake.
Looked like Streveler was out there , so maybe it was just a total cluster f of alignment
time to exorcise the 3rs quarter demons and dominate
I'm ok with a conservative ball control offense that limits turnovers. Montreal had 2 explosion plays, but it will be tough for them to repeat that in second half.
Why are our scouting so bad this year, weak O line, weak DBs, weak receivers (Can and IMP), and weak QBs? Not even mentioning coaches
So when they were showing the kids playing as they went to commercial - why were they wearing equipment, and also flags? Since when is full equipment required for flag football?
Stats are deceiving... I feel very nervous with the win tonight
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 12:58:51 AMI don't think it was on Zach, it was just the situation and how it turned out - it was a big risk in the end with the catch and immediate hit, while stretched out.
The tip contributed, and no it isn't on Zach and not a criticism to him, just unfortunate that Sterns was exposed like that.
Agree all
Accurate analysis
Quote from: Blue72 on August 22, 2025, 01:04:37 AMWhy are our scouting so bad this year, weak O line, weak DBs, weak receivers (Can and IMP), and weak QBs? Not even mentioning coaches
Overstated on the negative
OL is average
When healthy DB above average
Receivers are fine but depth isn't great
Qbs are fine
Coaches are league best with rookie Hogan
Kramdi ok good sign!!!
lawson needs to be replaced by houston
Lawson out matched with Hollins
Lawson backed off
wow
just terrible tackling by wilson
That missed tackle was sad but 30 is a super beast
That's embarrassing for Wilson
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 12:57:42 AMWith only a six point lead, hopefully Hogan plays aggressive in 2nd half
I would call a balanced game
no demski
no sterns
defence needs to step up and they haven't yet
letting them convert 2nd and 10
Holm didn't do much in that play...
Man Lawson got burnt early and now too soft
Hollins hard matchup though
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 01:14:09 AMno demski
no sterns
defence needs to step up and they haven't yet
letting them convert 2nd and 10
That was really bad.
Clearly going after Lawson
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 01:14:47 AMClearly going after Lawson
Looks like they switched sides and Vaval took Hollins on that last snap.
Lawson is just bad
gotta think younger would be bringing some unique looks to confuse a quattro stringer - nope not the case
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 01:16:32 AMgotta think younger would be bringing some unique looks to confuse a quattro stringer - nope not the case
His D calling been solid imo
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 01:12:35 AMThat missed tackle was sad but 30 is a super beast
30 (Jones) isn't playing tonight so much for him being a super beast
Quotegotta think younger would be bringing some unique looks to confuse a quattro stringer - nope not the case
What looks can you give that will confuse someone from throwing to wide open receivers?
Bombers defence game plan is give the qb all day, play 5 yards off receiver and hope the receiver drops the pass
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 01:17:36 AM30 (Jones) isn't playing tonight so much for him being a super beast
Travis
THEIS
Another great 3rd quarter start.
so offside
this is gonna be so hard without demski and sterns
must be the 3d qtr, and Corcoran again showing why hes not cfl ready
Corcoran not content with a drop, figures he'll pick up an offside too
Quote from: Sway on August 22, 2025, 01:18:16 AMBombers defence game plan is give the qb all day, play 5 yards off receiver and hope the receiver drops the pass
Over simplifying
Younger calls as a varied D as it gets
Yes our corners will play soft at times
defence is gonna have to win this game or at least contribute in a huge way
Zach should have knocked a hundred thou off his salary we could have kept Yoshi.
Yeah Corcoran should not be on the field. He dropped one last game he was in. He does not seem like a cfl player.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 01:20:25 AMdefence is gonna have to win this game or at least contribute in a huge way
D needs to be above average
O needs to be average and keep ru game going
And we win
You can see Lawson had lost his confidence, hes not reacting any more nearly quick enough
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 01:20:25 AMdefence is gonna have to win this game or at least contribute in a huge way
Offence just needs to finish and stop settling for short FGs.
Also, if we could record 1 first down in a third quarter, that would be helpful.
So will the O with no QB outplay the O with no receivers?
Quote from: markf on August 22, 2025, 01:20:58 AMZach should have knocked a hundred thou off his salary we could have kept Yoshi.
More difficult to do than you suggest
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 01:21:18 AMD needs to be above average
O needs to be average and keep ru game going
And we win
average is gonna be tough without demski and sterns on the road
job just got much harder
Nice throw and catch
32 just behind
Nice blitz
bring some blitzes - quattro Morgan needs to feel some heat
Kramdi blanket
Huge stop
Need a 3
Ugh.
feed BO - run and pass
Ugh this is gonna be a hard again eh.
Where the F is forward progress?
This ref crew is always stupid.
I miss our bully ball this year...
whose playing reciever for Sterns? Corocans in for demski
FEEED BRADYYYYYY
flags are killing us every drive
These holding penalties are killing.
This OL sucks ***.
I stand corrected 17 in at receiver
Zach got popped
20 nice grab
Our OL doesn't suck it's average and will improve when we get all bodies back imo
This is painful. Our offence is down to Brady.
Another interior free rusher in Zachs face. Kolan got shredded.
defence has to win this game
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 01:26:32 AMI miss our bully ball this year...
Brady is averaging more touches this year than in either 2024 or 2023.
Thinking that we're not giving him the ball is something you all made up in your heads somehow.
Another excellent kicker
Holding there
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 01:31:43 AMdefence has to win this game
Could use a turnover against this 4th string QB...
Holding Als should be pinned deep.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 01:31:20 AMAnother interior free rusher in Zachs face. Kolan got shredded.
Again.
On that second and 12, Zack had time but no one open. We need someone like Wheatfall to step up
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:32:13 AMBrady is averaging more touches this year than in either 2024 or 2023.
Thinking that we're not giving him the ball is something you all made up in your heads somehow.
Brady bully ball refers to the run game and his run numbers are down which means bully ball isn't in effect (yet)
Barbk bang on
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:32:13 AMBrady is averaging more touches this year than in either 2024 or 2023.
Thinking that we're not giving him the ball is something you all made up in your heads somehow.
maybe it is not if but when they decide to give or deny him the ball.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:32:13 AMBrady is averaging more touches this year than in either 2024 or 2023.
Thinking that we're not giving him the ball is something you all made up in your heads somehow.
You sure about that? Well, it's in my head as well, but if that's true then it's probably just a group hallucination.
Maybe cover Snead for lords sake!
Allen beast
We found our safety
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 01:33:25 AMBrady bully ball refers to the run game and his run numbers are down which means bully ball isn't in effect (yet)
His numbers aren't down. We've just turned the ball over at a record rate and are losing games.
People want to see us up late in games and rushing to end the game. And we've been losing so that hasn't happened so they think we're not giving it to Brady as much. But we still have been.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:32:13 AMBrady is averaging more touches this year than in either 2024 or 2023.
Thinking that we're not giving him the ball is something you all made up in your heads somehow.
I wasn't referring to Brady Oliveria.... our offence last year playing as a whole in controlling the ball and killing the clock in 2nd half.
Holding on ALS, NO CALL.
brutal crew
D settled in nicely
Need a 3 BAD!!!!!
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 01:36:07 AMAllen beast
We found our safety
Disagree.
Needs more time.
Have some patience.
He sure was no Aaron Rogers on that one. lol
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 01:36:28 AMI wasn't referring to Brady Oliveria.... our offence last year playing as a whole in controlling the ball and killing the clock in 2nd half.
That's fair enough.
That said, we did an amazing job of that in the first half but for some reason can't buy a first down in the third quarter.
No yards!
Brady is having such a good game though.
Bully back back again??????
another 3rd quarter with no production
Nice one Brady
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 01:36:28 AMI wasn't referring to Brady Oliveria.... our offence last year playing as a whole in controlling the ball and killing the clock in 2nd half.
There is no bully ball sans Brady
Quote from: Pete on August 22, 2025, 01:39:11 AManother 3rd quarter with no production
well, it is over now.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 01:37:35 AMHe sure was no Aaron Rogers on that one. lol
I saw what you did there...
Another 3rd quarter with no points. The O needs to find a way to score 7, and that could end it
Quote from: Pete on August 22, 2025, 01:39:11 AManother 3rd quarter with no production
I just don't get it. Zach had over 200 yards passing in the first half. Brady had 50 or so rushing yards.
Then it just disappears. Zach with like 10 yards in the third quarter.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:36:13 AMHis numbers aren't down. We've just turned the ball over at a record rate and are losing games.
People want to see us up late in games and rushing to end the game. And we've been losing so that hasn't happened so they think we're not giving it to Brady as much. But we still have been.
Brady is 5th is rushing yards his numbers are way down
Love the humour with Lapo and Smith
Calling it bully back is back
Order Lapo a spray tan, STAT!
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 01:41:41 AMLove the humour with Lapo and Smith
Excellent combo
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 01:40:38 AMBrady is 5th is rushing yards his numbers are way down
Because he was injured for a few games.
Logan in at receiver
Wilson sighting
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 01:40:38 AMBrady is 5th is rushing yards his numbers are way down
To be fair he was out for a few games this year.
i forgot Mitchell was even playing
The two buffoons in the box forgot. Game is going on. WAKE UP TSN
Quote from: barbk on August 22, 2025, 01:41:41 AMLove the humour with Lapo and Smith
The Planes, Trains, and Automobiles thing was so perfect. I lol'd.
But these second and long screens to Brady are not going to cut it.
Quote from: Pete on August 22, 2025, 01:43:02 AMi forgot Mitchell was even playing
what a waste of a position. Guy is useless or not being used properly. Or both.
You won't see Strev do that.
That's why I prefer Terry Wilson on 3rd and 1
Wilson for PM
terry W - short yardage GOAT
Nice job Wilson!
The Terry Package
Where wad this in GC
Hogan looking ok
Shoot 86 open
Why are we going away from run?
Mitchell baby
Why even insert an OL?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 01:43:56 AMwhat a waste of a position. Guy is useless or not being used properly. Or both.
Keep making these comments bud, lol
Mitchell made a play, wow. :D
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 01:42:50 AMTo be fair he was out for a few games this year.
Yup but Jesse said numbers were not down which was incorrect
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 01:45:38 AMWhy are we going away from run?
Brady's been our whole offence, can't run it every play
BBB back back again
We didn't go away from run
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 01:43:56 AMwhat a waste of a position. Guy is useless or not being used properly. Or both.
That didn't age well.
(sorry I had to use that again - I don't disagree, it just happened he immediately made a play after you typed it).
Strev blocking yas
Clersius is invisible
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 01:47:05 AMYup but Jesse said numbers were not down which was incorrect
On a per game basis, bud. Try to keep up.
Brady having himself a game!
Huge!! Brady!!!!
Yes
MOP!
You can't stop Brady
Great play calling
Hogan is fine
BRADY TOUCHDOWN
Top notch drive
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:46:27 AMKeep making these comments bud, lol
This is exactly what I meant, but I was not so eloquent. But seriously - call out everyone, it's working!
Nothing is aging well!
Need D to make a big play still I think.
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 01:48:53 AMThis is exactly what I meant, but I was not so eloquent. But seriously - call out everyone, it's working!
We can make fun of Goldie, he's cool.
Need to D to get a TD to put this thing away
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:48:01 AMBrady having himself a game!
Inching towards 200 APY
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:47:47 AMOn a per game basis, bud. Try to keep up.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:36:13 AMHis numbers aren't down. We've just turned the ball over at a record rate and are losing games.
People want to see us up late in games and rushing to end the game. And we've been losing so that hasn't happened so they think we're not giving it to Brady as much. But we still have been.
You said his number are not down
That was incorrect
Don't change the narrative bud
It's ok to be wrong
Keeping up just fine here but thanks for asking lol
But yes less game and his average is good
But yards down rushing the ball, is a fact
Mentioned on broadcast
Brady.... Outstanding.
This team can't get Ontaria Wilson back here fast enough. Can we get Houston in next week, please?
Pick here would be very nice.
Nice coverage on ST
Make a tackle here! Sheesh!
trevor harris is gonna pick this defence apart
Quote from: markf on August 22, 2025, 01:52:12 AMPick here would be very nice.
Like seriously D. This guy should not have a clean sheet in his first start.
Come on D time to step it up with a turnover.
Morgan poo poo foo foo :P
Mitchell is not a waste just looks like needs time and confidence
Greedy.... serves them right
Mass gambler?
Glad they made the play, but the disrespect of Maas to our D attempting a pass in third down.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 01:53:26 AMtrevor harris is gonna pick this defence apart
Might not for sure
Houston will have something to say about it
Big Willie impact play nice
He is still a top guy
WILLY!
This is the play we needed all!
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:55:16 AMGlad they made the play, but the disrespect of Maas to our D attempting a pass in third down.
Mass can take off eh!
Nice call with the blitz
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:55:16 AMGlad they made the play, but the disrespect of Maas to our D attempting a pass in third down.
the choise makes zero sense with a 4th stringer. :D
Come down to knockdown ville
Aka Willie central
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 01:49:56 AMNothing is aging well!
Need D to make a big play still I think.
Well said!
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:50:44 AMWe can make fun of Goldie, he's cool.
Agree - see above - love it Goldie!
Brady 100 receiving and rushing tonight?
Brady Brady BRADY
You're the man
Hogan.... ***
Nice people are taking a fun approach to the forum
Crow / aging well coments are there for entertainment purposes
Well, that was incredibly poorly done.
Why does this happen at the end of every single game?
more and more coaching mistakes
no excuse for this time count
MOS this is on you
Talk about overthinking things
Why put Strevler in
Just hand it to Brady
Stupid stupid stupid
Terry!
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 01:59:34 AMTalk about overthinking things
Why put Strevler in
Just hand it to Brady
Nice to mix it up but agree
Run z rock
Terry for pres?
Now we gotta gamble. Crappy!
I repeat this is why Terry Wilson in for 3 and 1
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 02:00:08 AMTerry!
He's just so much better at this than Strev now.
Wilson looks freshy fresh
Nice mis direction with receivers
terry wilson - best short yardage we have
Please use Wilson on ALL shorties!
Have your Bully Ball people.
Brady! (that was for you Goldie)
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 02:00:47 AMHe's just so much better at this than Strev now.
Similar success rates
Stats are close
Not true statistically
But yes he good at it
Strev is too
There DL is sucking wind! Run it down there throats now.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 02:01:18 AMterry wilson - best short yardage we have
Numbers say both equally good
Good problem to have
I think Smith and Lapo are TSN's best team
Lapo is falling asleep as he mumbles away.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 02:02:27 AMNumbers say both equally good
What are the numbers? You're just making that up.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 02:02:19 AMThere DL is sucking wind! Run it down there throats now.
This is the way.
Alexander getting all pumped for Stev blocking is a funny shot.
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 02:02:51 AMI think Smith and Lapo are TSN's best team
LaPo makes that duo for sure. But yes, agreed.
Matty was the best color for pure entertainment, LaPo brings the education to another level.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 01:36:59 AMDisagree.
Needs more time.
Have some patience.
Stop trolling
I said to bring him in mid season and he has been awesome
You can't help yourself
Please talk football and stop these types of posts
Against the rules wow
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 02:03:19 AMLapo is falling asleep as he mumbles away.
"blah, blah blah" - Lapo
I wanna see us do to the Als what they did to us:
Strev at SB coming across the backfield for a sweep, then tossing the rock.
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 02:04:18 AMLaPo makes that duo for sure. But yes, agreed.
Matty was the best color for pure entertainment, LaPo brings the education to another level.
I tend to agree but Lapo sometimes does Kevin Sawyer level rambling mumbling stumbling.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 02:03:32 AMWhat are the numbers? You're just making that up.
Fake news someone presented all QBs numbers at short yardage
Do your homework before spreading wrong info wow
It's ok to be challenged man, don't make it personal
Sergio. You're the man!
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 12:22:06 AMThis aged poorly.
Looks like not being worried aged like fine wine
Always believe in the blue
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 02:05:47 AMFake news someone presented all QBs numbers at short yardage
Do your homework before spreading wrong info wow
I think Wilson has surpassed Strev at short yardage.
Solid win under difficult circumstances.
Zach and Brady both played really well.
Montreal made no attempt to run the ball. Odd choice.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 02:05:47 AMFake news someone presented all QBs numbers at short yardage
Do your homework before spreading wrong info wow
So what are the numbers?
I bet Wilson has more yards on his 2 attempts today than Strev has on all of his attempts this season.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 02:05:27 AMI tend to agree but Lapo sometimes does Kevin Sawyer level rambling mumbling stumbling.
Comparing him to Sawyer is a little harsh, don't you think?
I did honestly laugh at this comment though!
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 02:07:17 AMI think Wilson has surpassed Strev at short yardage.
Hard to argue that but the numbers had them neck and neck a few weeks ago
Ok D LETS GO!
Nice tackle by Lawson
Morgan has thrown a pick already. No clean sheet here.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 02:08:16 AMSo what are the numbers?
I bet Wilson has more yards on his 2 attempts today than Strev has on all of his attempts this season.
Do your homework
Someone posted a table
Numbers were close
Trying to change the narrative now for 2nd time tonight
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 02:05:02 AM"blah, blah blah" - Lapo
Come on Zipp - he brings way more than Suitor - would you really rather listen to Suitor?!
Mtl 30 super beast
Lapo shut the hell up
Lawson good coverage give em 10! No biggie
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 02:09:41 AMCome on Zipp - he brings way more than Suitor - would you really rather listen to Suitor?!
do bring up Suitor. please.
Lawson sucks.
Lapo is good not sure the hate
Allen missed on Snead
Good try
Lawson doesn't suck a good backup
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 02:09:24 AMDo your homework
Someone posted a table
Numbers were close
I'm not the one who claimed their numbers were similar. I'm asking you to present your homework.
If you want to call out every single poster for every single claim, back it up.
So now we're just gonna let March down the field. Jeezus.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 02:10:17 AMLapo shut the hell up
We're just at the point in the game where they're killing the clock as much as the teams are.
Vaval!
Good for him.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 02:11:10 AMI'm not the one who claimed their numbers were similar. I'm asking you to present your homework.
If you want to call out every single poster for every single claim, back it up.
Nah you were wrong the numbers for both low 90s
Not here to dig for you
You were wrong now you just on and on about a being incorrect statistically
Do your homework not hard
Air ball
Retract
Game.
Great road win!
Marching field
Aged like cheap wine lol
Record for that lol
BBB full effect
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 02:11:01 AMdo bring up Suitor. please.
Lawson sucks.
Sorry, was talking Suitor crossing the line?
It usually is for me - he sets the bar on the ground, hard to be worse.
Wow. Might have given Logan the ball here.
How many total yards does Brady have?
200+ BRADY BOY
Love it
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 02:15:21 AMHow many total yards does Brady have?
Over 200?
yup - there it is 206
Brady catching up in rushing race now boy
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 02:14:54 AMSorry, was talking Suitor crossing the line?
It usually is for me - he sets the bar on the ground, hard to be worse.
do not I meant. :)
There is the famous backpack
Maas has some pythons eh? :D
As expected a good Bomber club plays a complete game
Well done well done
The east division is a joke yet again.
East division isn't a joke
Mtl and TO needs their QBS
Hammy good to great
Vaval is a cool dude.
Glad to have him on the team.
Great win.
Needed this win big time. Not a masterpiece by any means. Brady and Demski carried this team to a win. The Bombers will be in very tough games the next 3. Would be great to get 2/3 but could easily be 0 or 1/3. Super nervous about this next stretch...
Quote from: markf on August 22, 2025, 02:21:20 AMVaval is a cool dude.
Glad to have him on the team.
Great win.
Future star!!!
Thanks to all for a great GDT
Techno will have a hay day with this one lol
Until next time, good fun everyone
Is Corcoran the best Canadian receiver that we could get again either poor scouting or poor coaching player choices
A harder win than it should have been but it's a win. Those 2 early 45 yard passes by the Als led to 10 points and kept them in the game longer than they should have been.
Bomber offence was doing well considering we were missing 2 receivers by half time. Not too many mistakes but a few killed drives.
We had 450 yards of offence and Brady had a little over 200 yards of that total. Impressive when they knew he'd be getting the ball that often.
I think Vaval won the " test " between our 2 CB's. D. Lawson seemed to improve after that first mistake. However we were playing against the # 4 QB making his 2nd start.
Demski shouldn't miss any games. Precautionary I think that they took him out. OTOH, Sterns probably misses some games with a shoulder injury.
Logan showed some speed but didn't see much daylight from our blockers. He got some game time and conditioning tonight and should improve next game.
Collaros had an 87% completion rate and a good night.
Quote from: Blue72 on August 22, 2025, 02:30:51 AMIs Corcoran the best Canadian receiver that we could get again either poor scouting or poor coaching player choices
Kinda caught in between guys. He's obviously depth that probably shouldn't be getting as many snaps as he is, it was injury replacement.
But we lost a couple of Canadian receivers in the off season, so he got prematurely promoted I guess.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 02:33:28 AMKinda caught in between guys. He's obviously depth that probably shouldn't be getting as many snaps as he is, it was injury replacement.
But we lost a couple of Canadian receivers in the off season, so he got prematurely promoted I guess.
Cobb is a much better option, but again Corcoran is a character guy according to Oshea too bad he is a liability
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 22, 2025, 02:18:11 AMMaas has some pythons eh? :D
If you mean his ears, yes, yes, he does.LOL
Quote from: Blue72 on August 22, 2025, 02:30:51 AMIs Corcoran the best Canadian receiver that we could get again either poor scouting or poor coaching player choices
Good question but he's a rookie and not had much playing time. Now that we appear to have lost Sterns, we're going to have a change in the receiving group. Whether that means Cobb gets added and we go 3 Canadian receivers or does the WR on the PR ( McLeod ) get added.
The only other option is using Logan more as a receiver and maybe throw in Streveler a bit. None of the options seem great but it's the only ones we have at the moment. That would give another ratio advantage if we wanted to add Houston without taking anyone out. Depth improve I suppose.
Quote from: Pete on August 22, 2025, 02:35:38 AMCobb is a much better option, but again Corcoran is a character guy according to Oshea too bad he is a liability
Much better? lol. I don't know how we can reasonably say that.
Come to think about it, we might get Schoen back next week. We'll have to see if he get 1st team reps in practice next week.
Why is the Mtl crowd allowed to use sirens when the Bombers are in the huddle and breaking up to the LOS. This is illegal and is a penalty against the home team, what gives CFL! They banned the air horns but are allowing the siren noise now.
Quote from: Horseman on August 22, 2025, 02:43:38 AMWhy is the Mtl crowd allowed to use sirens when the Bombers are in the huddle and breaking up to the LOS. This is illegal and is a penalty against the home team, what gives CFL! They banned the air horns but are allowing the siren noise now.
I wondered the same thing. Montreal seems to get special treatment in this area. That piped in noise/sounds usually went until about 8-10 seconds left on the play clock.
Corcoran shows promise and blocks well
He will come around, not a liability as Pete suggests
To think he would develop quickly and make an impact right away isn't fair
Cobb a good depth option, I like him but likely just a good backup / swiss army knife
Mitchell will have to step up if Sterns out
Quote from: bunker on August 22, 2025, 02:07:17 AMI think Wilson has surpassed Strev at short yardage.
Wilson has some quickness about him. He doesn't try and run people over. Finds the cracks and makes the most of it.
BO20 25 touches, 200 yards. Nice to see BO20 get going.
Jones: Another 9 DTs.
Lawson: 6 DTs
Ayers. 4 STs.
WJ5. So good at knocking down passes.
ZC8. 27/31 263 yards, 1TD, 8.5 Avg.
Ayers is not coming off imo
St beast
Jones a top LB
Willie just being himself nothing to see here lol
Quote from: Horseman on August 22, 2025, 02:43:38 AMWhy is the Mtl crowd allowed to use sirens when the Bombers are in the huddle and breaking up to the LOS. This is illegal and is a penalty against the home team, what gives CFL! They banned the air horns but are allowing the siren noise now.
Yep, sirens, vehicle backup beeping noise, definitely created electronically.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 22, 2025, 02:37:20 AMGood question but he's a rookie and not had much playing time. Now that we appear to have lost Sterns, we're going to have a change in the receiving group. Whether that means Cobb gets added and we go 3 Canadian receivers or does the WR on the PR ( McLeod ) get added.
The only other option is using Logan more as a receiver and maybe throw in Streveler a bit. None of the options seem great but it's the only ones we have at the moment. That would give another ratio advantage if we wanted to add Houston without taking anyone out. Depth improve I suppose.
Mcleod forgot about him good point!
Strev good in spot duty only imo
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2025, 03:21:08 AMYep, sirens, vehicle backup beeping noise, definitely created electronically.
Exactly - when you watch games in Wpg and SSK on TV it is ALL crowd noise - as in, yelling, clapping, etc. Nothing electronic. If your fans suck, you don't get to augment.
It used to be a penalty to pipe in sound over the loudspeaker. Now that it's 2025 the CFL needs to address this BS. I don't know what NFL does, but I'm pretty sure they would not put up with fans bringing in electronic horns, etc.
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 03:44:27 AMExactly - when you watch games in Wpg and SSK on TV it is ALL crowd noise - as in, yelling, clapping, etc. Nothing electronic. If your fans suck, you don't get to augment.
It used to be a penalty to pipe in sound over the loudspeaker. Now that it's 2025 the CFL needs to address this BS. I don't know what NFL does, but I'm pretty sure they would not put up with fans bringing in electronic horns, etc.
I feel like I remember a penalty for pipped in crowd noise in the past. Am I making that up?
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 03:50:23 AMI feel like I remember a penalty for pipped in crowd noise in the past. Am I making that up?
No you definitely are not making that up. It happened. Someone must have data?
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 22, 2025, 03:44:27 AMExactly - when you watch games in Wpg and SSK on TV it is ALL crowd noise - as in, yelling, clapping, etc. Nothing electronic. If your fans suck, you don't get to augment.
It used to be a penalty to pipe in sound over the loudspeaker. Now that it's 2025 the CFL needs to address this BS. I don't know what NFL does, but I'm pretty sure they would not put up with fans bringing in electronic horns, etc.
I would think noises that loud are powered by a car battery if not plugged into an electrical outlet, AA batteries don't put out that much power.
There is a penalty for illegal use of electronic equipment. The home stadium can produce noise (music, sirens, ads etc) through the speakers until the offence breaks its huddle.
Hamilton and BC have employed a half huddle this season which seems to prevent the stadium noise. The lineman assume a position on the LOS while the rest of the offence does a loose huddle in the backfield.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 22, 2025, 05:25:27 AMThere is a penalty for illegal use of electronic equipment. The home stadium can produce noise (music, sirens, ads etc) through the speakers until the offence breaks its huddle.
I thought it was until the whistle blows in? AFAIAC as soon as the 20s clock starts all speaker noise should cease. That's the way they do it @ PAS.
If the real rule is "until they break the huddle", then PAS needs to do what MTL is doing. Put in real annoying noise
until that huddle dissipates. Add in an extra 1 sec for good measure.
P.S. At Mosaic Gainer's car has many a time run its sirens well into the WPG *snap* when we've played them. Totally illegal and it drives me bonkers.
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 22, 2025, 02:30:35 AMThanks to all for a great GDT
Techno will have a hay day with this one lol
Until next time, good fun everyone
Yup, over 500 messages means we beat the Riderforum GDT. Winning! Thanks all!
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 02:08:16 AMI bet Wilson has more yards on his 2 attempts today than Strev has on all of his attempts this season.
Don't care. SY is only and all about failure rate. You need it to be max 1 a season. It should be so automatic from 1.3Y out that you ALWAYS sneak ANYWHERE on the field.
As such Wilson's 20Y romps are fun, but just gravy.
I was disappointed we didn't go for it on 3rd & 1 to 1.5 a couple of times tonight. I would have. Either SY QB.
Who's better? I think we are in a great situation where both are basically money.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 12:47:19 AMcorcoran come on !!
Ya, worst O execution of the game, IMHO. Had heat, but easy catch. I think Corcoran had some jitters and butterflies. He made a far better stab in PS.
Looks like he was trying to catch against his chest rather than trusting his hands. Always trust your hands. Never use the pads for a heater.
I think he'll learn. I hope that's the last bad drop of the season.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 22, 2025, 12:07:20 AMref left his coffin for this game.
Funny you say that, my wife, who basically never watches more than 5 mins of football at a time, said precisely that at the viewing party. "What's wrong with that ref? Is he dead?"
I told her that's Commander Data. For some reason tonight he looked like Data on fast-forward. Or meth.
I still like him better than First Down Valesi...
Quote from: theaardvark on August 21, 2025, 04:37:18 PMThis is the classic trap game, where we tend to play down to the level of our opponents.
We
couldn't play down to MTL. We're firmly at their level! For a trap game to occur, you have to be a great team. We're mediocre at best right now... but RISING!
3Q10:55 When Theis wriggles out of a sure tackle by Kyrie.
Why isn't this blown dead?
Kyrie has both arms around and hands fully hugging Theis starting at the 52.5. Kyrie pushes him like this all the way back to the 55. This takes a full 1.5 secs (I checked).
Then Theis eventually wriggles free. and goes 10Y for a 1st D.
Rule 1 - Section 4 - Dead Ball:
ball is dead when ... ball carrier is tackled and the forward progress has been halted (tackling is defined as the act of grasping or encircling a ball carrier with hands and arms)
Both conditions occurred. Refs have blown plays dead for less. AND this exact play usually gets correctly blown dead. It's like the ref right there is a homer and saw Kyrie has zero help and so gave Theis the time to try to escape for big free yards.
This really irritates me. It kept MTL's 3rd Q starting drive alive on 2nd & 7 with what should have been a tackle at LoS.
So we have no RECs. So Brady is eating them alive. So MTL leaves Brady wide open for dump passes for half the game? They really couldn't put a spy on him (like we usually do the RB!)? Was Thorpe having a stroke? Or is he really that stuck in his "system"?
It was bizarre.
Ayers was getting reps on defence. I'm not sure who he replaced in those defensive sets. He had a very good game on ST's.
Weitz was on K/O returns but I didn't notice him on PR? I can't say he was bad but he was invisible on TV. Anyone see more than I did?
Take the win but maaaaaaan, that was rough to watch at times last night. Seeing Morgan connect with Hollins virtually at will was brutal.
Demski seems okay, which is a huge relief. Sterns can't catch a break on the injury front; that catch he made was pretty sick.
Not gonna lie: I am super nervous about the LDC/BB.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 22, 2025, 01:53:59 PMTake the win but maaaaaaan, that was rough to watch at times last night. Seeing Morgan connect with Hollins virtually at will was brutal.
Demski seems okay, which is a huge relief. Sterns can't catch a break on the injury front; that catch he made was pretty sick.
Not gonna lie: I am super nervous about the LDC/BB.
I m not nervous at all about LDC, we're going to get pumped in Riderville!! We don't have the horses right now to keep up to Sask's offense.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 22, 2025, 07:28:26 AMDon't care. SY is only and all about failure rate. You need it to be max 1 a season. It should be so automatic from 1.3Y out that you ALWAYS sneak ANYWHERE on the field.
As such Wilson's 20Y romps are fun, but just gravy.
I was disappointed we didn't go for it on 3rd & 1 to 1.5 a couple of times tonight. I would have. Either SY QB.
Who's better? I think we are in a great situation where both are basically money.
The main difference is Wilson is quicker off the snap so even on plunges hes more effective. The threat of him going outside also lessens teams stacking up.
He should handle 3rd down short going forward
Strev unfortunately isn't pushing the line forward anymore, and he hesitates slightly giving the dline a chance to establish themselves
It does irk me when I see mtrl continually picking up players that can help with a proven history
While we struggle with recycled players
( Hollins the latest, Evans, Sankey, Lemon, to name some)
Anyone think Mitchell is better than Hollins?)
Hopefully Houston helps but what is it with Walters only bringing in players that have played wuth us before?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 22, 2025, 08:48:27 AMSo we have no RECs. So Brady is eating them alive. So MTL leaves Brady wide open for dump passes for half the game? They really couldn't put a spy on him (like we usually do the RB!)? Was Thorpe having a stroke? Or is he really that stuck in his "system"?
It was bizarre.
Neither.
...Montreal's defense was just tired. They've played a ton in the last few weeks. It was a short week. They have had a bye less than us and combined with good execution from the Bombers and those factors we had success. Thorpe's a good DC.
A few people jumping on Corcoran. The kid is a 5th round pick. Probably wasn't expected to make the AR. He's 8/9 on the season. And, has mostly been used for blocking.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 22, 2025, 07:28:26 AMDon't care. SY is only and all about failure rate. You need it to be max 1 a season. It should be so automatic from 1.3Y out that you ALWAYS sneak ANYWHERE on the field.
As such Wilson's 20Y romps are fun, but just gravy.
I was disappointed we didn't go for it on 3rd & 1 to 1.5 a couple of times tonight. I would have. Either SY QB.
Who's better? I think we are in a great situation where both are basically money.
But Wilson's rate is better AND he's getting better yardage.
Even some of Strev's successes were within a hair of failure. I don't get why we're forcing this anymore.
Quote from: Jesse on August 22, 2025, 03:38:42 PMBut Wilson's rate is better AND he's getting better yardage.
Even some of Strev's successes were within a hair of failure. I don't get why we're forcing this anymore.
Yes, Wilson has been very good at SY. He's just a little quicker after receiving the snap, and can find the small crack to get the yardage needed. And, you are right, Wilson's success rate has been better.
Tony Jones has 68 DT's on the season. He's all over the field!!.
Vaughters 1 DT in the last 2 games. We will need him to play much better in Regina.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 22, 2025, 04:43:10 PMTony Jones has 68 DT's on the season. He's all over the field!!.
He's a stud.
Quote from: Pigskin on August 22, 2025, 05:03:03 PMVaughters 1 DT in the last 2 games. We will need him to play much better in Regina.
He was subdued but still disruptive vs MTL. If the 1 DT is what I was thinking of, it was a brilliant OL-shed to catch (and secure) the carrier in the hole. Our whole DL has bad problems with shedding blockers (hold city in the gut mass), but Vaughters often pulls it off!
Our whole pass-rush was pretty useless against that MTL OL. Need better schemes or more effort or better horses...
Quote from: Pigskin on August 22, 2025, 04:16:34 PMYes, Wilson has been very good at SY. He's just a little quicker after receiving the snap, and can find the small crack to get the yardage needed. And, you are right, Wilson's success rate has been better.
Over what time frame? My criteria for failure is "TOD on 3rd & 1.3 or less". Under that criteria Strev has failed once this season. Maybe he failed 1-3 times in previous season before his knee explosion?
Wilson had 0 or 1 failure in '24 and none this year? But he's had only like 3 sneaks in '25...
So in 2025, 3/3 vs 14/15 or whatever. To me it's basically equivalent. However, everyone noting technique and total push and speed and everything else: you're not wrong! But as long as the failure rate is low, I'm a status quo kind of guy.
(I guess failing to get at least 1 on 2nd & 2 or 3 is also failure, but Strev did get the 1.25 on that 2nd & 3 the other game, so that's a success.)
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 22, 2025, 02:26:43 PMNeither.
...Montreal's defense was just tired. They've played a ton in the last few weeks. It was a short week. They have had a bye less than us and combined with good execution from the Bombers and those factors we had success. Thorpe's a good DC.
Both can be true. Clearly they were tired, especially as our TOP in 1st H was very dominant (but evened up a fair bit by the end).
But they 100% didn't assign a spy to the RB/QB. Watch what
we do on many/most downs on D. Someone (usually WILL or MLB) is matched with the RB and if he stays in blocking our guy will run up to the box as an extra rusher. If the RB or QB tries to run our "spy" will stay out and match his every move.
Most teams will do the same, especially against Brady! Or they'll have a DB tasked with keeping a VERY close eye on him and closing the gap quickly before he can take a dump pass.
MTL left Brady without anyone within 15Y and no DB facing him to keep him honest. So many teams played the opposite and would destroy Brady by the time dump passes made it to him (or have someone follow him out of the box taking him away as a read completely).
It just struck me as odd. And Brady's game stats showed it. I guess they thought Brady was washed up based on his before-this-game crap stats?
Quote from: Pete on August 22, 2025, 02:23:35 PMIt does irk me when I see mtrl continually picking up players that can help with a proven history
Hopefully Houston helps but what is it with Walters only bringing in players that have played wuth us before?
Mafia gonna mafia. That's for sure. As pathetic as it seems to us, though, it has gotten us to 5 straight cups... so something has to be working!
Maybe we will make some trade/couch noise in this home GC year. Maybe. (Please?)
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 22, 2025, 01:46:09 PMWeitz was on K/O returns but I didn't notice him on PR? I can't say he was bad but he was invisible on TV. Anyone see more than I did?
You may have already pointed it out, but Weitz was in on a great blow-up tackle on ST (we all thought of BinBC!). Not sure if he got the credit for it, and of course TSN never mentions anything about STers... (just cut to commercial!)
They used to mention the tacklers a bit more back in the Arakgi & Mike Miller days... Maybe they only care when records are getting broken.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 23, 2025, 10:25:24 AMYou may have already pointed it out, but Weitz was in on a great blow-up tackle on ST (we all thought of BinBC!). Not sure if he got the credit for it, and of course TSN never mentions anything about STers... (just cut to commercial!)
They used to mention the tacklers a bit more back in the Arakgi & Mike Miller days... Maybe they only care when records are getting broken.
I didn't notice that when I re-watched the game although I may have sped through all of the return action. Nothing shows in the stats but Ayers had 4 ST's and I saw him making some big hits.
Weitz must be doing something right. The ST's get shuffled when there are injuries. I mentioned we lost Novak and more recently Hallett. The roles of replacement are probably different as they adjust. In that sense I've noticed Weitz more likely a player taking on blockers to make paths for those making the tackles.
Our ST's have been playing well with the exception of the missed FG return TD by Ottawa.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 23, 2025, 01:40:44 PMOur ST's have been playing well with the exception of the missed FG return TD by Ottawa.
And the ill-advised fake punt. Otherwise it's a strength of this team, no doubt.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 23, 2025, 10:15:19 AMOver what time frame? My criteria for failure is "TOD on 3rd & 1.3 or less". Under that criteria Strev has failed once this season. Maybe he failed 1-3 times in previous season before his knee explosion?
Wilson had 0 or 1 failure in '24 and none this year? But he's had only like 3 sneaks in '25...
So in 2025, 3/3 vs 14/15 or whatever. To me it's basically equivalent. However, everyone noting technique and total push and speed and everything else: you're not wrong! But as long as the failure rate is low, I'm a status quo kind of guy.
(I guess failing to get at least 1 on 2nd & 2 or 3 is also failure, but Strev did get the 1.25 on that 2nd & 3 the other game, so that's a success.)
Wilson this year is 13/14 with an average of 3.7 yards per attempt. He is not making it close.
Strev's numbers are harder to figure out because he's started some games and has other rushes mixed in, but on games where he was purely used as SY, he has 10 attempts with a 1.2 yard average. He's only missed twice, but it's so close it feels like we're dependent on a good spot. He is simply not as effective in this role at this point.
Quote from: Jesse on August 23, 2025, 03:10:55 PMWilson this year is 13/14 with an average of 3.7 yards per attempt. He is not making it close.
Strev's numbers are harder to figure out because he's started some games and has other rushes mixed in, but on games where he was purely used as SY, he has 10 attempts with a 1.2 yard average. He's only missed twice, but it's so close it feels like we're dependent on a good spot. He is simply not as effective in this role at this point.
Quote from: Jesse on August 23, 2025, 03:10:55 PMWilson this year is 13/14 with an average of 3.7 yards per attempt. He is not making it close.
Strev's numbers are harder to figure out because he's started some games and has other rushes mixed in, but on games where he was purely used as SY, he has 10 attempts with a 1.2 yard average. He's only missed twice, but it's so close it feels like we're dependent on a good spot. He is simply not as effective in this role at this point.
Also, Wilson May break one for a long gain. Streveller can't anymore. That dirty hit really affected him it seems.
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 23, 2025, 01:40:44 PMI didn't notice that when I re-watched the game although I may have sped through all of the return action. Nothing shows in the stats
Found it. 1Q0:00 last play was a MTL KO return. Weitz does a great form tackle stop on the returner. Ayers and Weitz got their mitts on the guy at the same time. Maybe Weitz a hair sooner. Weitz is in front stopping him, Ayers from behind.
Ayers finally brings him down and Weitz lets go. But I think it's the hit/stop Weitz did that did it. Ayers may have let him slip out if Weitz isn't stopping momentum.
I'm surprised there isn't a half-tackle credit or something for this.
I don't think anyone really cares outside of you & I, Mike Miller, and maybe Junkie!
Quote from: Jesse on August 23, 2025, 03:10:55 PMWilson this year is 13/14 with an average of 3.7 yards per attempt. He is not making it close.
Oh ya, I forgot the 2 games where Strev started and the quarters when he came in for relief... Those did have Wilson sneaking.
Quote from: Jesse on August 23, 2025, 03:10:55 PMStrev's ... He's only missed twice, but it's so close it feels like we're dependent on a good spot.
When was the other time Strev failed? I remember only 1, and TSN did say he was perfect right before he whiffed the other day.
Again, if you don't get 1st on 2nd & 3, but still get a yard, that's not a failure in my books.
I should keep better written track of this stuff... every season these "how many whiffs" argument comes up! The problem is "define whiffs".
https://www.cfl.ca/2025/08/25/5-pff-stats-that-stand-out-from-week-12/
Vaval allowed only a 20% (1/5) completion percentage and a QB efficiency of 24.2 last week, according to PFF. Too small a sample size to make much of by itself (especially against a 4th string QB), but interesting.
Quote from: bunker on August 25, 2025, 08:58:08 PMhttps://www.cfl.ca/2025/08/25/5-pff-stats-that-stand-out-from-week-12/
Vaval allowed only a 20% (1/5) completion percentage and a QB efficiency of 24.2 last week, according to PFF. Too small a sample size to make much of by itself (especially against a 4th string QB), but interesting.
Vaval has been good on the boundary which makes sense because it's the most similar to corner play down south. Speed also makes the biggest there. From game one you could tell it just kind of clicked.
I wonder if Houston could play the field. I don't think he's done it but if he could excel there that's the best case scenario.