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Title: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on June 20, 2025, 02:48:19 PM
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Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on June 20, 2025, 02:48:29 PM
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Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on June 20, 2025, 02:48:50 PM
Calgary Stampeders place LB Marquel Lee on six-game injured list ahead of clash with Ottawa
By 3Down Staff -June 20, 2025

The Calgary Stampeders have lost another key piece to the six-game injured list ahead of their meeting with the Ottawa Redblacks on Saturday.

American middle linebacker Marquel Lee will be out long-term with a bicep injury, joining all-star receiver Reggie Begelton (knee) and veteran long-snapper Aaron Crawford (knee) as starters lost this week. In a pair of starts this season, the 29-year-old NFL veteran has made 15 defensive tackles.

Canadian Micah Teitz will bump over to start in the middle for Calgary this week, while American Jacob Roberts gets the nod at weakside linebacker. Canadian linebacker Nicky Farinaccio will draw into the lineup for the first time as depth.

Defensively, the team will receive a boost from the return of defensive tackle Miles Brown after a one-week absence. Cedric Wilcots II also draws back into the defensive end rotation, while Canadian George Idoko and American Shaun Peterson Jr. will both be healthy scratches.

On the other side of the ball, returner Erik Brooks will get the start at receiver in place of Begelton, allowing the team to dress American Eno Benjamin as a third running back. Rookie first-round pick Christopher Fortin will get the start at centre with Bryce Bell (shoulder) on the one-game injured list, while Tomas Jack-Kurdyla becomes a healthy scratch in favour of Rodeem Brown as the sixth man.

Veteran fullback William Langlais also returns to the lineup, while rookie Jason MacGougan makes his debut at long snapper.

The Calgary Stampeders (2-0) will host the Ottawa Redblacks (0-2) at McMahon Stadium on Saturday, June 21 with kickoff slated for 2:00 p.m. EDT.

https://3downnation.com/2025/06/20/calgary-stampeders-place-lb-marquel-lee-on-six-game-injured-list-ahead-of-clash-with-ottawa/
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on June 20, 2025, 02:49:00 PM
Ottawa Redblacks to start QB Dustin Crum against Calgary Stampeders
By 3Down Staff -June 20, 2025

The Ottawa Redblacks have officially declared Dustin Crum as their starting quarterback for Saturday's game against the Calgary Stampeders.

The six-foot, 210-pound native of Grafton, Ohio made 14 starts for the Redblacks as a CFL rookie in 2023, throwing for 3,109 yards, 10 touchdowns, and 12 interceptions. He also rushed for 741 yards and nine scores, posting a 3-11 record.

The 26-year-old performed mostly short-yardage duty in 2024, rushing for 206 yards and seven touchdowns. He attempted only 45 passes, throwing for 320 yards and two interceptions.

Matthew Shiltz started at quarterback for Ottawa in Week 2 and struggled, throwing for 205 yards, one touchdown, and three interceptions in a 39-18 loss to the Montreal Alouettes. Franchise quarterback Dru Brown, who was limited all week in practice according to the team's official report, remains on the one-game injured list due to a hip injury.

The Redblacks have made only two changes to their game-day roster from last week, adding Canadian defensive lineman Muftah Ageli and American linebacker Frankie Griffin. Lucas Cormier and Davion Taylor, both linebackers, have been moved to the one-game injured list.

Ageli was a fourth-round pick in the 2025 CFL Draft out of Northwestern Oklahoma State, though he spent most of his collegiate career at the University of Windsor. Griffin, who is in his fifth season with the Redblacks, spent the first two games of the year on the one-game injured list. Over 43 career CFL regular-season games, he has recorded 180 defensive tackles, 10 special teams tackles, and one interception.

The Ottawa Redblacks (0-2) will visit the Calgary Stampeders (2-0) at McMahon Stadium on Saturday, June 21 with kickoff slated for 2:00 p.m. EDT.

https://3downnation.com/2025/06/20/ottawa-redblacks-to-start-qb-dustin-crum-against-calgary-stampeders/
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: 55 Stick Car on June 21, 2025, 05:59:26 PM
Gonna be a miserable game today in Calgary. Has poured rain for hours and it is cold. Snow in Canmore this morning. First day of summer too.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on June 21, 2025, 06:20:43 PM
Quote from: 55 Stick Car on June 21, 2025, 05:59:26 PMGonna be a miserable game today in Calgary. Has poured rain for hours and it is cold. Snow in Canmore this morning. First day of summer too.

Yup, just came here to post about the rain. Calgary is supposed to get 40-50mm of rain this afternoon?

I rarely see that much forecasted for Winnipeg for one day.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 21, 2025, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: DM83 on June 21, 2025, 06:25:58 PMIs this game cancelled or just delayed. Replacment programs currently on.

Niether -- kickoff is 3:00 cdt
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on June 21, 2025, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: DM83 on June 21, 2025, 06:25:58 PMIs this game cancelled or just delayed. Replacment programs currently on.
I noticed TSN has the incorrect start time on a couple of their channels.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: markf on June 21, 2025, 08:14:03 PM
I hope Crum does not get murdered in this game.

Ottawa O line has not been very good at all.

Calgary people are pretty soft..... staying away cause of a bit of rain.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: The Zipp on June 21, 2025, 08:33:24 PM
should have given up the single on the missed FG
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 21, 2025, 08:55:54 PM
Can we give both these teams a loss and give the two points to the weather?
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: pdirks67 on June 21, 2025, 09:04:45 PM
I get that the weather is going to have a negative impact on offensive performance. But this is embarassing so far. Pro football teams shouldn't look like this, even when the weather is wet and windy.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 21, 2025, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on June 21, 2025, 09:04:45 PMI get that the weather is going to have a negative impact on offensive performance. But this is embarassing so far. Pro football teams shouldn't look like this, even when the weather is wet and windy.

Not a good for the league's highlight reel. The weather is executing at a very high level though.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Blue In BC on June 21, 2025, 09:22:22 PM
Funny game to watch so far. Comedy of errors and wind influenced problems. You name it, it's happened. It's also the kind of game where player tend to get injured with sloppy field conditions. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: bwiser on June 21, 2025, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: markf on June 21, 2025, 08:14:03 PMI hope Crum does not get murdered in this game.

Ottawa O line has not been very good at all.

Calgary people are pretty soft..... staying away cause of a bit of rain.
Most of Winnipegs stadium is covered so I think most Bomber fans would be there in bad weather.I know I have been at a few bad weather games especially at the old stadium where it was not covered.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: 55 Stick Car on June 21, 2025, 09:56:42 PM
Between the rain and the gusting winds the weather is wicked here. I would guess it would be better and easier if it was -30 out. Not a fun game to watch.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: markf on June 21, 2025, 10:08:57 PM
Called Offensive pass interference on Ottawa

End of the first half a Calgary receiver rhymes bulldozed a db turned and caught a pass

No call.

I don't like this ref crew.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: The Zipp on June 21, 2025, 10:33:08 PM
quick six is chilly

is VA a fair weather QB?
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 21, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Crum might win the monsoon bowl.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: The Zipp on June 21, 2025, 10:35:39 PM
gotta knock that one down Ringland...

need a running game on a day like today
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Blue In BC on June 21, 2025, 10:48:34 PM
Int cost the Redblacks about 25 -30 yards. Dumb. Why try to kick a FG when a single makes it a two score game for Calgary?

Not impressed by many of the coaching decisions on both sides.

Regardless, great win for the Redblacks and it doesn't hurt Winnipeg.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: gobombersgo on June 21, 2025, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 21, 2025, 10:48:34 PMInt cost the Redblacks about 25 -30 yards. Dumb. Why try to kick a FG when a single makes it a two score game for Calgary?

Not impressed by many of the coaching decisions on both sides.

Regardless, great win for the Redblacks and it doesn't hurt Winnipeg.

It still would have been a long punt even with the wind.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Blue In BC on June 21, 2025, 10:57:29 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on June 21, 2025, 10:54:09 PMIt still would have been a long punt even with the wind.

Yes but probably easier to get more distance than with a FG effort. Also better directional control. At worst the Stamps try to run it out and that could be an interesting result either way.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Blueforlife on June 21, 2025, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 21, 2025, 10:57:29 PMYes but probably easier to get more distance than with a FG effort. Also better directional control. At worst the Stamps try to run it out and that could be an interesting result either way.
3 wins the game (2 score)

Kick was close

Disagree
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 05:38:51 AM
Quote from: markf on June 21, 2025, 08:14:03 PMCalgary people are pretty soft..... staying away cause of a bit of rain.

Maybe, but it is also 8C.  In the rain.  That's not fun.  That's winter in Vancouver weather.  It's also the same temp it was in the 2019 GC! (Though that had no rain, and dead calm wind, was a wonderful night.)
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 06:45:04 AM
Quote from: pdirks67 on June 21, 2025, 09:04:45 PMI get that the weather is going to have a negative impact on offensive performance. But this is embarassing so far. Pro football teams shouldn't look like this, even when the weather is wet and windy.

And cold.  8C and driving rain ain't fun.  Ya, should probably be better, but when you can't throw or catch or run without everything slipping...

I'm more miffed at the ineffective camera hoods!  Holy smokes just get some extended lens hoods!!
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 06:45:33 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 21, 2025, 09:11:33 PMNot a good for the league's highlight reel. The weather is executing at a very high level though.

Weather went pro.  Big FA acquisition.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 07:40:57 AM
Hey, why is OTT allowed to wear all-black uniforms?  Isn't the visiting team required to wear their white away jerseys?
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 07:51:58 AM
Don't think I've ever seen a FG hit padding around the goal post before!  That was a squeaker.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 07:55:33 AM
Every time I hear the name "Orimolade" I can't help think of toast and fruit spread.  "Honey, get me some more of that orimolade."
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: The Zipp on June 21, 2025, 10:33:08 PMis VA a fair weather QB?

He kinda always has been.  He seems to have zero touch on a wet ball.  And he seems incapable of adjusting.

There's a reason we'd always beat him when he came to WPG in Oct/Nov.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 08:48:05 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 21, 2025, 10:35:28 PMCrum might win the monsoon bowl.

I have no idea why Dickenson The Greater keeps up his going for it on 3rd & medium/long.  Literally no other HC will do that.  4 min left, 8 points down, in your own end, kick it away.  He's been doing this for years now, and it's a big part of why they lose.

And why are they chucking it 30Y downfield when they only need 6?  In the wet, when they haven't been able to pass all night.  Like huh??
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 08:57:06 AM
4Q1:27 CGY Jones gets a wicked reaching/leaping catch on the rail.  Look familiar?  This is Kenny's first big catch in the '24 GC... except they took Kenny's away.  Toe dragging, but heel then comes down on the line.

What's the difference?  Smith taps his 2nd foot's toe down before his other heel hits the line.  That's insane concentration, BTW.

I think this illustrates how stupid the Kenny rule is.  You can literally do every thing in the world other than touch your heel on that rail and it's a completion.  But heaven forbid your heel touches first, boom you're OOB and it's incomplete.

I think every catch you make where you tap a toe in-bounds should be a completion.  No exceptions.  The Kenny GC catch should have been good.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: Stats Junkie on June 22, 2025, 09:22:55 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 07:40:57 AMHey, why is OTT allowed to wear all-black uniforms?  Isn't the visiting team required to wear their white away jerseys?
Teams are required to wear contrasting jerseys (and different colour pants).

BC Lions do not have a white jersey
Winnipeg Blue Bombers (2012-2015) did not have a white jersey.

Some teams, including the Bombers, have worn white jerseys at home.
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: dd on June 23, 2025, 02:06:03 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 08:57:06 AM4Q1:27 CGY Jones gets a wicked reaching/leaping catch on the rail.  Look familiar?  This is Kenny's first big catch in the '24 GC... except they took Kenny's away.  Toe dragging, but heel then comes down on the line.

What's the difference?  Smith taps his 2nd foot's toe down before his other heel hits the line.  That's insane concentration, BTW.

I think this illustrates how stupid the Kenny rule is.  You can literally do every thing in the world other than touch your heel on that rail and it's a completion.  But heaven forbid your heel touches first, boom you're OOB and it's incomplete.

I think every catch you make where you tap a toe in-bounds should be a completion.  No exceptions.  The Kenny GC catch should have been good.

The rule is clear- you have to have possession and land in bounds with at least one foot inside the boundary. You land with part of that one foot over the line incomplete pass. Pretty straight forward
Title: Re: GDT Ott at Cgy, Sat June 21, 3:00PM
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 23, 2025, 05:58:27 AM
Quote from: dd on June 23, 2025, 02:06:03 AMThe rule is clear- you have to have possession and land in bounds with at least one foot inside the boundary. You land with part of that one foot over the line incomplete pass. Pretty straight forward

You're not understanding.  In both cases the player lands with a toe in-bounds (the "toe drag").  And the heel of the same foot is not yet down on anything.

In Kenny's case the same-foot heel then, a second later, comes down on the line.  Ruling: OOB, no catch.

In Jones' catch the 2nd foot toe-taps down on the line and then the original-inbound-foot heel comes down on the line.  Ruling: in-bounds, completion.

The only difference between the 2 is the CGY guy got another body part on the line paint before the original foot does.  And the rules as written differentiate between these two cases.

It's an insane difference that doesn't make any sense at all.  I submit that both should be a completion and the rules should be rewritten as such.  Any toe-tap within bounds without anything touching the line at the same moment (or earlier) should be complete.

I guess I could provide stills if what I'm saying isn't clear.