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The Extra Point => Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 04:50:28 AM

Title: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 04:50:28 AM
Can't remember who brought it up, but here it is:

1. The back-ups: Streveler and Patterson stepping in for the MOPs and absolutely killed it. Strev did everything you could hope for and Patterson brought some juice that we haven't seen since Fred Reid.

2. Wheatfall: The second year leap is real. He looks like he could be a problem for the rest of the league.

3. Bridges: Not in Hogan's offence, but another guy coming in to man a spot that has been consistently filled with all stars, Ford and Houston before him, and comes in with 2 INTs in his first start.

We really suffered through parts of last years with all the rookies we had to play, but they all clearly learned some lessons from all those lumps.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: blue_or_die on June 13, 2025, 05:09:16 AM
(Was my idea! Thanks for starting this)

Agree on all but will add the patchwork-ish OL performed very well. Never noticed Strev crazy pressured. I understand that's by design as he's a running Qb so not sure what kind of D BC brought, but the eye test tells me they were #hogansheroes tonight too
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 13, 2025, 05:11:12 AM
Great choices, Jesse. Gotta say Streveler played a great game. Not much more you could ask of your backup QB. He used his mobility to his advantage but played a passing first game and succeeded. He made a ton of good decisions and took basically what was there and deserves credit. His game is never going to look flashy but be played the kind of quarterback that you need to win games consistently.

Probably the best pro game he's played so far.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 05:15:39 AM
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 13, 2025, 05:09:16 AM(Was my idea! Thanks for starting this)

Agree on all but will add the patchwork-ish OL performed very well. Never noticed Strev crazy pressured. I understand that's by design as he's a running Qb so not sure what kind of D BC brought, but the eye test tells me they were #hogansheroes tonight too

Originally had "The Americans" as my #3, referring to the 3 imp OL, but thought it sounded bad so gave it to Bridges. But the OL was absolutely stellar. Neufeld ended up playing so I'm not sure we want to make any changes there moving forward.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: blue_or_die on June 13, 2025, 05:17:30 AM
Quote from: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 05:15:39 AMOriginally had "The Americans" as my #3, referring to the 3 imp OL, but thought it sounded bad so gave it to Bridges. But the OL was absolutely stellar. Neufeld ended up playing so I'm not sure we want to make any changes there moving forward.

I was going to ask if Neuf ended up playing but was too embarrassed that I didn't notice myself.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 05:18:32 AM
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 13, 2025, 05:17:30 AMI was going to ask if Neuf ended up playing but was too embarrassed that I didn't notice myself.

You weren't in your seat yet when the players were announced  :P
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 13, 2025, 07:21:40 AM
Best play calling we've seen in a while.  Real creative and "do what's least expected".  The 2nd Demski TD everyone and their dog KNEW we were going to run it (2 extra OL) as we ALWAYS run it from there.  And we bootleg it to Demski that no one tracked properly.

A perfect delayed draw earlier in the game.

An even mix of every play you can imagine to keep the D loose and guessing.

This is the type of OCing that could have won us the cup last year.

Hogan is the hero.

And we did all of this without Zach or Brady.  Yikes!  Rest of league pooping their pants right about now.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 13, 2025, 08:38:02 AM
Just watching the PVR now: good to see Hogan is a booth guy.  I never really understood OCing from the sideline.  I think Buck only did it last year because he knew he was bailing to be an HC.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: markf on June 13, 2025, 01:09:42 PM
The touchdown pass to Demski...

TSN had a good camera view looking towards the bombers... you could clearly see the two inside linebackers staring towards the middle of the line, and standing close to it, fully expecting run up

Maybe the Plays that were called early helped Strev. He needs to relax a little bit ...


Rourke is a good player but his demeanour causes me to enjoy him doing badly.

Micah Awe with a dirty hit. He's Not in the top group of linebackers in the CFL.

I was surprised...other than a few plays, the Bombers D really handled the Lions.

Great game to watch.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 13, 2025, 01:13:37 PM
Let's make this Hogan's Heroes thing a weekly occurrence. :D
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: LXTSN on June 13, 2025, 01:35:46 PM
Gotta give it up to Vaval!
We've had a few band-aid solutions since Grant, but it's been an area that we've struggled with. This guy had ZERO expectations, and absolutely killed it!

Very impressed with how fearless he is. He attacks the holes full speed. Very exciting to watch!
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: LXTSN on June 13, 2025, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: LXTSN on June 13, 2025, 01:35:46 PMGotta give it up to Vaval!
We've had a few band-aid solutions since Grant, but it's been an area that we've struggled with. This guy had ZERO expectations, and absolutely killed it!

Very impressed with how fearless he is. He attacks the holes full speed. Very exciting to watch!
Forgot to mention, but he was included in kick offs, punts, punt returns and kick returns. Recovered a fumble today too!
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: markf on June 13, 2025, 01:43:16 PM
Yeah vaval is fearless. Really decisive too. And makes good decisions .... Interviewed post game.... Seemed to have the "it was no big deal " attitude that they want.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: bwiser on June 13, 2025, 04:33:51 PM
Quote from: markf on June 13, 2025, 01:43:16 PMYeah vaval is fearless. Really decisive too. And makes good decisions .... Interviewed post game.... Seemed to have the "it was no big deal " attitude that they want.
I really liked how he caught punts on the fly instead of letting them bounce.It seemed when ever he received a punt he was catching it running forward.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: theaardvark on June 13, 2025, 05:02:21 PM
Hogan's Heros thread should be limited to Offensive comments...

Just sayin...
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 13, 2025, 05:06:07 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 13, 2025, 05:02:21 PMHogan's Heros thread should be limited to Offensive comments...

Just sayin...

I'd imagine the Lions found Vaval's return game pretty offensive. ;D
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 13, 2025, 05:02:21 PMHogan's Heros thread should be limited to Offensive comments...

Just sayin...

Then we'd need todo a separate thing for the rest of the team. I'd rather just make it the title for "best performers"
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: theaardvark on June 13, 2025, 05:40:35 PM
Quote from: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 05:33:56 PMThen we'd need todo a separate thing for the rest of the team. I'd rather just make it the title for "best performers"

I have no issue with having separate threads for D and ST's as well, if you can come up with catchy titles for them, all the better.

But Hogan's Heroes specifically references the OC, and thereby the players under his purview.  To include ST's like Vaval or other D players does not make any sense.  They are not coached by Hogan, and hence cannot be a Hogan's Hero.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 13, 2025, 05:42:47 PM
I thought Vaval looked good returning in camp and I seem to have been right again on what I am seeing in my limited TC visits.

Hogans hero's weekly is a nice fit. Good picks Jesse.

Peterson could be a real special player. We shall see.

Hogan had an amazing OC debut.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: blue_gold_84 on June 13, 2025, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 13, 2025, 05:40:35 PMI have no issue with having separate threads for D and ST's as well, if you can come up with catchy titles for them, all the better.

But Hogan's Heroes specifically references the OC, and thereby the players under his purview.  To include ST's like Vaval or other D players does not make any sense.  They are not coached by Hogan, and hence cannot be a Hogan's Hero.

(https://y.yarn.co/05e6a208-9a0c-4e93-a0fc-f5c1aad3ecf9_text.gif)

It's just for fun.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: Blueforlife on June 13, 2025, 08:02:11 PM
 Wheatie / Peterson / Vaval are my heros

O wait and Strev! :)

To be honest Hogan is the true hero, what a debut!! But can he be his own hero?  He sure silenced the few that said he wouldn't be able to do it, he showed a OC can be successful with no past experience but leaning on being in the organization so long proved to be a great fit thus far, we will see growing pains along the way but I am very impressed!!!

The OL gets a nod as well, very good game, I was worried, I'll eat bird, they look just fine ;)

I think HH's should include ST returners, not defensive players

Agree Bridges Jesse, a great start.  He might be star in the making.

I have proposed ultimate warriors for our players on D or just all around BEASTS :)

Here are my picks: Wilson and Willie, both not slowing down :) Love these solid vets baby!

Mention to Gauthier to doing the long snapping when Benson got hurt and Griffin for taking a lot of reps and not looking out of place.

Each week we could have this thread with a HH's and UW's combo

Maybe we should have poll on how we do HH's so that the massed can decide ;)

This is great fun don't care how you slice it
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 14, 2025, 07:41:32 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on June 13, 2025, 08:02:11 PMThe OL gets a nod as well, very good game, I was worried, I'll eat bird, they look just fine ;)

Hoggies were astounding, all things considered.  Massive holes and runs for Peterson.  Great protection for Strev.

Remember, our OL was going up against probably one of the best DL in the league.  That DL eviscerated EDM in week 1.

I'm pretty sure this isn't our "desired" OL unit, but man I'd be in no rush to get Lofton back in just yet and/or our "real" LG in place (whoever the heck that will be).
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 14, 2025, 07:42:41 AM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 13, 2025, 05:02:21 PMHogan's Heros thread should be limited to Offensive comments...

Just sayin...

OK.  You stink!

(Get it, get it?  Mods: chill, chill! joke!)
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 14, 2025, 07:44:47 AM
Quote from: LXTSN on June 13, 2025, 01:35:46 PMGotta give it up to Vaval!

Vaval is the man.  Holy smokes does he have a lot of tats.

However, Vaval did whiff once (got lucky on the recovery: thanks to the punter for over-kicking!), and came oh so close to fumbling.  Holds the ball a bit loose when he gets going.

He'll have to watch that ball security!  Or we'll have a repeat of the early Grant fumblitis.  Now that teams have film they'll be scheming for the punch-out instead of the tackle.
Title: Re: Hogan's Heroes
Post by: Jesse on June 14, 2025, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 14, 2025, 07:41:32 AMHoggies were astounding, all things considered.  Massive holes and runs for Peterson.  Great protection for Strev.

Remember, our OL was going up against probably one of the best DL in the league.  That DL eviscerated EDM in week 1.

I'm pretty sure this isn't our "desired" OL unit, but man I'd be in no rush to get Lofton back in just yet and/or our "real" LG in place (whoever the heck that will be).

I think it's become our desired unit. I certainly don't want to make any changes to it right now.