Big splash FA signing D.Mitchell tucked away on the IR for game 1. And only a couple of mentions on the GDT? This is the biggest news of game 1!
When I opened the depth chart I was shocked to see Wheatie at WR instead of D.Mitchell. Then I scan the other RECs to see where we slotted him instead... but, Sterns got the other spot. No D.Mitchell!
Surely I'm not the only one a bit shocked? So what's going on with D.Mitchell?
His stock has been falling faster than a Brohm duck into the turf. MOS talking about him like he's a project (or worse: trouble). Him showing no effort and leaving no mark at TC/PS. He was as invisible as Jarious (who at least appears to have an excuse).
The last time this happened was with A.Bowman and C.Matthews. But at least those guys saw the field and we made attempts to make them appear useful. D.Mitchell might never dress in B&G. Remember, he's supposed to be our next Kenny!
Not a good look. Not a good situation. Taking bets on what week he gets cut...
Yeah not looking like a great signing, hopefully it works out. Not sold on Sterns or Wheatfall yet. Between him and J.Jones, that's some healthy money on the bench.
Quote from: kkc60 on June 11, 2025, 10:06:36 PMYeah not looking like a great signing, hopefully it works out. Not sold on Sterns or Wheatfall yet. Between him and J.Jones, that's some healthy money on the bench.
Injuries surely to come, probably around week 6 they'll decide to run with Mitchell or cut bait, they won't stick with a non-productive receiver for long with Reggie White on the PR. Not much chance of trading him away to a greater fool either.
Its early in the season, my guess is he goes on the 6 game IR after this game, and if there are no other injuries, he gets cut. He's too expense to be a 'depth' reciever, at his pay scale, he was supposed to be an impact reciever.
Wheatfall was just better then Mitchell and White Jr. in TC. Wheatfall came into camp in shape and a good understanding of our system.
Quote from: dd on June 11, 2025, 10:16:35 PMIts early in the season, my guess is he goes on the 6 game IR after this game, and if there are no other injuries, he gets cut. He's too expense to be a 'depth' reciever, at his pay scale, he was supposed to be an impact reciever.
The 1 game PR is for manoeuvring, don't think they can get away with abusing the 6 game IR, the player, CFL and the CFLPA would all be upset.
Mitchell signed for 148,000 and got a 63,000 signing bonus, which in retrospect looks like a big mistake. Now he's essentially making a minimum salary, so he's basically a sunk cost. He's not costing us anymore going forward than Wheatfall or Stearns. No way he accepts a PR spot, so you either pay him, or cut him.
He did his damage in Edmonton in 2023 with Kenny Walker and Derel Walker, who probably got alot of the attention. His numbers in 2024 were pretty mediocre. Not sure why they opened up the bank for him. I agree his days are numbered unless we suffer receiver injuries or he starts stepping up his play.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 11, 2025, 11:06:05 PMThe 1 game PR is for manoeuvring, don't think they can get away with abusing the 6 game IR, the player, CFL and the CFLPA would all be upset.
Not sure that is true. The player gets 100% of his salary. Hard to make an argument about using the 6 game IR when teams are using the 1 game IR for the same reason. Essentially an extended roster. At least on 1 game IR players can practice.
See above regarding salary and bonus info.
looking forward to being proven wrong but it doesn't matter who is playing receiver with Strev at QB
Run the ball
hope they put Terry in for some plays
wheatfall was better, made plays, honestly i thought reggie was better than Mitchell.
it will be good to have options
Quote from: The Zipp on June 11, 2025, 11:23:43 PMlooking forward to being proven wrong but it doesn't matter who is playing receiver with Strev at QB
Run the ball
hope they put Terry in for some plays
wheatfall was better, made plays, honestly i thought reggie was better than Mitchell.
it will be good to have options
Agree, he was.
He admittedly came into camp unprepared. So he was placed in the second team and forced to earn his way onto the roster. He is still in the position to fight that battle and work his way onto the roster, but obviously Wheatfall turned some heads last year and maybe is taking a step.
We'll certainly need other receivers to play over the course of the season and we don't want to be starting rookies again.
Quote from: The Zipp on June 11, 2025, 11:23:43 PMlooking forward to being proven wrong but it doesn't matter who is playing receiver with Strev at QB
Run the ball
hope they put Terry in for some plays
wheatfall was better, made plays, honestly i thought reggie was better than Mitchell.
it will be good to have options
You're right, BC is going to load the box and force Strev to throw it, much to our demise
It's not really that bad. We're on the hook for the signing bonus and first game cheque but at the time we obviously weren't sure what we had in some of the other receivers. I don't recall anyone -- not a single poster, not a member of the media, anyone, thinking Wheatfall was going to come beat him out. But he did. That's not really a bad thing.
And a lot can change in a week. Someone could get hurt. Wheatfall could struggle. Or something else could happen.
Quote from: kkc60 on June 11, 2025, 10:06:36 PMYeah not looking like a great signing, hopefully it works out. Not sold on Sterns or Wheatfall yet. Between him and J.Jones, that's some healthy money on the bench.
Wheatfall if healthy will be very good this year.
Don't know a lot about Sterns but optimistic
Yup lots of studs not dressed
Good problem to have
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 11, 2025, 11:16:44 PMNot sure that is true. The player gets 100% of his salary. Hard to make an argument about using the 6 game IR when teams are using the 1 game IR for the same reason. Essentially an extended roster. At least on 1 game IR players can practice.
See above regarding salary and bonus info.
I believe a player on the 6 game can not practice with the team, if healthy who is going to agree to that arrangement?
Quote from: Pigskin on June 11, 2025, 10:30:13 PMWheatfall was just better then Mitchell and White Jr. in TC. Wheatfall came into camp in shape and a good understanding of our system.
But Mitchell was paid lower-top-tier money to come in and be the main guy after Dalton. He wasn't paid to come and lose out in TC competition.
It shouldn't have mattered how good Wheatie showed -- Wheatie should be the one headed for the PR as depth.
I'm not saying what Mafia is doing is wrong, I'm just saying that's not how it was supposed to be. If things didn't go according to plan, then that's a fail.
They scouted Mitchell's talent: but did they scout his attitude?
Quote from: bunker on June 11, 2025, 11:16:37 PMMitchell signed for 148,000 and got a 63,000 signing bonus, which in retrospect looks like a big mistake.
Ouch... Pretty sure that's more than we ever paid Darvin Adams, even when he was one of our top RECs.
That $63k may be down the toilet with nothing to show for it.
Quote from: bunker on June 11, 2025, 11:16:37 PMHe did his damage in Edmonton in 2023 with Kenny Walker and Derel Walker, who probably got alot of the attention. His numbers in 2024 were pretty mediocre. Not sure why they opened up the bank for him. I agree his days are numbered unless we suffer receiver injuries or he starts stepping up his play.
That's a great point I never thought of. A lot of the Mitchell magic (and it did look like magic early on) may have been a mirage. He was a superb fantasy pick for most of that season, but in '24 was useless.
Well, we can all still hope Pokey comes back around labor day!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 12, 2025, 05:14:11 AMBut Mitchell was paid lower-top-tier money to come in and be the main guy after Dalton. He wasn't paid to come and lose out in TC competition.
It shouldn't have mattered how good Wheatie showed -- Wheatie should be the one headed for the PR as depth.
I'm not saying what Mafia is doing is wrong, I'm just saying that's not how it was supposed to be. If things didn't go according to plan, then that's a fail.
They scouted Mitchell's talent: but did they scout his attitude?
Team's lose games all the time because they're putting in the guy that "should be" better rather than who is better.
If Wheatfall came in and was straight better than Mitchell and we're putting him on the field rather than the guy who got a bonus, that's the best case scenario.
Now, we seem to know that Mitchell didn't come in as the version we thought we were getting. Which is disappointing, but I love that they're making him earn his way onto the roster rather than wedging him in over guys who deserve it more. It's likely we need everyone over the course of the season, so let him run some sprints and get in shape while Wheatfall takes a year 2 leap.
With Mitchell I wonder if it is his head more than his ability right now. That last article on him, judging by the way he was talking, he seems to be having a hard time fitting in. On a team that is known for FIFO that doesn't bode well.
We'll have to see if he handles this like a pro.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 12, 2025, 02:57:11 AMI believe a player on the 6 game can not practice with the team, if healthy who is going to agree to that arrangement?
We know that but someone suggested we put Mitchell on the 6 game IR. It didn't appear that those being placed on IR this week are actually injured except Lofton. Just the way to park extra players at the moment.
I don't know what the problem with Mitchell is but the team needs to resolve it quickly. Either he is getting up to speed or we'll have to eat the bonus I suppose. Not really a point to sit him on IR for an extended period.
Hopefully he gets his act together. All things suggest it's a " between the ears " issue which he can work his way back. OTOH how much time can we give him?
As far as I am concerned the bonus is gone and let's move on. If he is not going to play he should have been cut after camp. All I've heard from MOS is they like him because of what he showed on film, not what what he has shown here. We have enough talent here that we don't really need him anyway so not sure why they reward him with extra chances. At the end of the day you have to just play him until he does something, either way. Sitting him just feels like procrastination.
As far as playing with Kenny Walker and Derel Walker, we've got Schoen and Demski. Does that not roughly equal out?
Quote from: Waffler on June 12, 2025, 01:37:49 PMAs far as I am concerned the bonus is gone and let's move on. If he is not going to play he should have been cut after camp. All I've heard from MOS is they like him because of what he showed on film, not what what he has shown here. We have enough talent here that we don't really need him anyway so not sure why they reward him with extra chances. At the end of the day you have to just play him until he does something, either way. Sitting him just feels like procrastination.
As far as playing with Kenny Walker and Derel Walker, we've got Schoen and Demski. Does that not roughly equal out?
I wouldn't be surprised if a decision is made by next week. That will be based on our game today and his performance / attitude next week in practice.
Yah - we haven't even played a game yet..,wheatfall gets a case of the dropsies or runs bad routes resulting in INT's, misses some blocks.. everything changes..
Then of course there are injuries.
Quote from: The Zipp on June 12, 2025, 01:56:11 PMYah - we haven't even played a game yet..,wheatfall gets a case of the dropsies or runs bad routes resulting in INT's, misses some blocks.. everything changes..
Then of course there are injuries.
We do have White on the PR. Other options include re-calling one of the receivers we cut. That said we saw Lawler drop a few he should have caught against the Stamps. Not everything will be written in stone after game one.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 12, 2025, 01:59:57 PMWe do have White on the PR. Other options include re-calling one of the receivers we cut. That said we saw Lawler drop a few he should have caught against the Stamps. Not everything will be written in stone after game one.
not written in stone but at least there will be something beyond a pre-season game...week 1 byes stink. Wonder what the stats are on week 2 success after having the week 1 bye.
Quote from: The Zipp on June 12, 2025, 01:56:11 PMYah - we haven't even played a game yet..,wheatfall gets a case of the dropsies or runs bad routes resulting in INT's, misses some blocks.. everything changes..
Then of course there are injuries.
Or Wheatfall has a game, Schoen shows old form and Stern provides a good change of pace... Any given Sunday err Thursday.
Unfortunate we still don't have our real offense (no Zach). This is why I think that game 2 in BC is the one that matters for receiver decisions. Chemistry with Zach will go a long way. This one we just have to grind and hope it's a W.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 12, 2025, 01:41:57 PMI wouldn't be surprised if a decision is made by next week. That will be based on our game today and his performance / attitude next week in practice.
Really no reason to rush the decision that quickly, Mitchell is not playing so he's not keeping anyone more deserving off the field and the money is spent either way. Injuries or losses could change the lineup or they could decide they're still in the audition phase and give every receiver another look to see how they perform in a real game, see what happens. As long as they sort it out within the first 6 games it's all good,they were quick and efficient getting rid of Adarius Bowman and Chris Matthews when they didn't work out, FIFO may be the deciding factor.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 12, 2025, 04:03:21 PMReally no reason to rush the decision that quickly, Mitchell is not playing so he's not keeping anyone more deserving off the field and the money is spent either way. Injuries or losses could change the lineup or they could decide they're still in the audition phase and give every receiver another look to see how they perform in a real game, see what happens. As long as they sort it out within the first 6 games it's all good,they were quick and efficient getting rid of Adarius Bowman and Chris Matthews when they didn't work out, FIFO may be the deciding factor.
I disagree with the 6 game premise. I say 3 weeks tops but still wouldn't be surprised to see a change by game 2 or game 3.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 12, 2025, 05:14:11 AMBut Mitchell was paid lower-top-tier money to come in and be the main guy after Dalton. He wasn't paid to come and lose out in TC competition.
It shouldn't have mattered how good Wheatie showed -- Wheatie should be the one headed for the PR as depth.
I'm not saying what Mafia is doing is wrong, I'm just saying that's not how it was supposed to be. If things didn't go according to plan, then that's a fail.
They scouted Mitchell's talent: but did they scout his attitude?
It may have been that the signing bonus went to his head.
AH33 famously came to camp out of shape, and BO20 eventually took his job. Its not uncommon for players to coast in on thier laurels.
I agree, the team needed to make sure of a players attitude, and should have checked in before committing a large signing bonus. There was no debating his talent, and the total cost was actually not a bad deal for us, I can see why they signed the bonus.
Keeping him isn't costing a lot, the bonus is sunk money. The potential payoff for the cost now is worth him hanging around on the IR while he gets in shape, and learns the scheme.
If he's just an injury reserve, because REC's get injured, he may be the best one in the league right now.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 12, 2025, 04:54:30 PMI disagree with the 6 game premise. I say 3 weeks tops but still wouldn't be surprised to see a change by game 2 or game 3.
4 receivers fighting for 2 spots may take time to sort out. One good game is not enough, could disappear the game after, have to find the most consistent target.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 12, 2025, 05:36:14 PM4 receivers fighting for 2 spots may take time to sort out. One good game is not enough, could disappear the the game after.
It's more about him then the success or failure of the other receivers. It's his ability to fit in and whether he can do it.
Two words though: Alexander Hollins.
Has Hollins not been picked up by anyone??!! If he was holding out for more money, maybe his position has softened if he's sitting out.
Quote from: dd on June 12, 2025, 10:44:56 PMHas Hollins not been picked up by anyone??!! If he was holding out for more money, maybe his position has softened if he's sitting out.
No, he was at the heart of the QB controversy last season in BC, not smart enough to keep his big mouth shut.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 12, 2025, 11:32:21 PMNo, he was at the heart of the QB controversy last season in BC, not smart enough to keep his big mouth shut.
No doubt he might not be a good fit. OTOH, it's worth a conversation with his agent and / or him. Since he also got a big early money bonus from the Lions, his SMS ask could be reasonable. IE: It could be the same as the balance we owe Mitchell ( $83K ) more or less.
Wheatfall 127 yards tonight.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 13, 2025, 04:03:06 AMWheatfall 127 yards tonight.
he is not coming out of the lineup
Definitely not.
Quote from: The Zipp on June 13, 2025, 04:20:17 AMhe is not coming out of the lineup
Have to agree, he's turned himself into Pokey. Mitchell is going to have to wait for an injury to get into the lineup.
Even if Brady can't go next week, don't see how they get Cooley in the lineup, ratio change on the O-line would not be worth it, they were dominant.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 13, 2025, 04:51:50 AMHave to agree, he's turned himself into Pokey. Mitchell is going to have to wait for an injury to get into the lineup.
Even if Brady can't go next week, don't see how they get Cooley in the lineup, ratio change on the O-line would not be worth it, they were dominant.
Same with Vaval on returns. Can't touch it.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 13, 2025, 04:51:50 AMHave to agree, he's turned himself into Pokey. Mitchell is going to have to wait for an injury to get into the lineup.
Even if Brady can't go next week, don't see how they get Cooley in the lineup, ratio change on the O-line would not be worth it, they were dominant.
I know O'Shea doesn't like to use the roster rules but we should absolutely use them for Cooley next week. Would cost us only an American import - so Ayers or something - and he could play 25 snaps. It's absolutely something we should (finally) do and doesn't require a rejigging of the ratio.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 13, 2025, 05:17:11 AMI know O'Shea doesn't like to use the roster rules but we should absolutely use them for Cooley next week. Would cost us only an American import - so Ayers or something and he could play 49% of snaps. It's absolutely something we should (finally) do.
I'd rather keep Ayers than some random RB who's never taken a snap.
Quote from: The Zipp on June 11, 2025, 11:23:43 PMlooking forward to being proven wrong but it doesn't matter who is playing receiver with Strev at QB
Run the ball
hope they put Terry in for some plays
wheatfall was better, made plays, honestly i thought reggie was better than Mitchell.
it will be good to have options
I don't mean to be a jerk, but this did not age well. dd agreeing to this as well, just sayin'.
I honestly thought Strev looked great in pre-season. I said to my buddy beside me that he learned to throw - i was being a smart-***, but only a bit - like Happy Gilmore learning how to putt and becoming dangerous.
Seriously - he looks so much better throwing - both in the pocket and on the run (often with his side-arm rolling to the right). I don't think Buck gave him a chance last year, really restricted him. Maybe he's extra motivated for this game with Buck as the opposing HC. I doubt he needs that to get motivated though. I sit right behind the Bombers bench - Strev is completely jacked after getting a first and short at the best of times. Today he was as well, but to another level. And well deserved.
Quote from: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 05:17:55 AMI'd rather keep Ayers than some random RB who's never taken a snap.
And who is going to back up Peterson? Chris-Ike and Demski? Doesn't seem practical.
I'd get Cooley on the roster and use the rules to get him 10-15 touches. Ayers or Griffin would have to go for it to work. We don't have the luxury of not using the rules when we only have 7 Canadians.
Would like to see Cooley in the game, but Ayers or Griffin, our two best STs players. Not sure I like that.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 13, 2025, 05:32:40 AMAnd who is going to back up Peterson? Chris-Ike and Demski? Doesn't seem practical.
I'd get Cooley on the roster and use the rules to get him 10-15 touches.
Never gonna happen. To Mafia that 25-snap rule doesn't even exist. It's literally not a thing to them. They'll get their free 2RDP in '25.
Peterson was astounding. I'm not even sure Brady would have done better! As for who backs him up... Ike was a RB, right? However, then we are getting really thin on O... do we have any other NAT that can step in at REC, RB or hybrid, besides already-AR'd Corcoran?
Hopefully Brady is ok and we don't have to find a solution. Otherwise I don't see how you don't bring in Cooley, even if he's just a normal DI. Corcoran can step in for Sterns (he didn't do much tonight).
Getting Cooley on the roster is one thing about the ratio. Getting him on the field means taking an import off ( receiver ) when he steps on the field and using Corcoran as a receiver replacement.
I don't think anyone wants to lose Ayers or Griffin on the ST / defensive side of the ball. Someone suggested using a Canadian as our returner instead of Vaval. That's not happening either.
IMO we'll see Oliveria play game 2. On TV it appeared he might have been kept out for concussion protocol. If he can't play, then the conversation will continue.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 11, 2025, 10:14:12 PMInjuries surely to come, probably around week 6 they'll decide to run with Mitchell or cut bait, they won't stick with a non-productive receiver for long with Reggie White on the PR. Not much chance of trading him away to a greater fool either.
I think if Mitchell does get in the lineup at some point he will be highly motivated. Competition for starting jobs is never a bad thing as it gets everyone involved working harder in practice to get in or stay in the lineup
After last nights game, Mitchell may have a hard time cracking the lineup other than through injury.
Every REC got some love, and all took advantage of their targets. Looks like Wheatfall has claimed the spot Mitchell was brought in to fill. Too early to say he's Pokey #2, but he looked good with our #2 QB throwing at him.
Not going to displace Schoen, and Sterns showed a little of what we thought he could be, trusting him on the fly sweep. Could Mitchell take Sterns' spot? He'd have to really outplay him in practice, or Sterns have a meltdown in game. Other than that, I can't see Sterns losing his spot.
Great place to be, having a Mitchell trying to break into the roster. And with the bonus being sunk money, he's not costing alot on the IR, just in case.
The question is, will being a "healthy" scratch motivate him or demotivate him? If he takes it as a challenge, nothing but good things happen.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 13, 2025, 03:59:25 PMAfter last nights game, Mitchell may have a hard time cracking the lineup other than through injury.
Every REC got some love, and all took advantage of their targets. Looks like Wheatfall has claimed the spot Mitchell was brought in to fill. Too early to say he's Pokey #2, but he looked good with our #2 QB throwing at him.
Not going to displace Schoen, and Sterns showed a little of what we thought he could be, trusting him on the fly sweep. Could Mitchell take Sterns' spot? He'd have to really outplay him in practice, or Sterns have a meltdown in game. Other than that, I can't see Sterns losing his spot.
Great place to be, having a Mitchell trying to break into the roster. And with the bonus being sunk money, he's not costing alot on the IR, just in case.
The question is, will being a "healthy" scratch motivate him or demotivate him? If he takes it as a challenge, nothing but good things happen.
Zach will determine a lot, expect him to rely heavily on Schoen and Demski, everyone else takes a back seat including Wheatfall. Could see him looking for Stern as an inside target but he doesn't have the build of Bailey or Woli so I don't know how long he'll last in that role. Mitchell isn't really a quick shifty route runner so he probably isn't well suited for the inside routes either. Clercius may be the best option for that job.
Anyone at the stadium have an impression on Sterns. He wasn't targeted much but how was his route running and blocking?
It's too early to pull him for Mitchell and Collaros will have a lot to say about that.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 13, 2025, 05:47:20 PMAnyone at the stadium have an impression on Sterns. He wasn't targeted much but how was his route running and blocking?
Sterns was pretty invisible. There was one guy who attempted a block who got literally thrown aside like a rag doll, and I couldn't tell if it was Peterson or Sterns (or someone else) -- it was a smaller guy.
I don't like the fact that Sterns wasn't getting open enough for Strev to consider him. As the new waterbug, he should be twisting all over the place and getting open, possibly way downfield.
That said, I think he was off the field a ton whenever jumbo was in. And he is arguably the 5th read (maybe 4th) in the normal scheme.
We may need to grow him into the role. He should go watch some old Dressler film.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 14, 2025, 07:52:26 AMSterns was pretty invisible. There was one guy who attempted a block who got literally thrown aside like a rag doll, and I couldn't tell if it was Peterson or Sterns (or someone else) -- it was a smaller guy.
I don't like the fact that Sterns wasn't getting open enough for Strev to consider him. As the new waterbug, he should be twisting all over the place and getting open, possibly way downfield.
That said, I think he was off the field a ton whenever jumbo was in. And he is arguably the 5th read (maybe 4th) in the normal scheme.
We may need to grow him into the role. He should go watch some old Dressler film.
It was noted that Peterson was doing very well blocking. Not sure which one was involved in the play you mentioned.
We'll see how involved Sterns is when Collaros plays. He spreads the ball around more because of his experience.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 14, 2025, 07:52:26 AMSterns was pretty invisible. There was one guy who attempted a block who got literally thrown aside like a rag doll, and I couldn't tell if it was Peterson or Sterns (or someone else) -- it was a smaller guy.
I don't like the fact that Sterns wasn't getting open enough for Strev to consider him. As the new waterbug, he should be twisting all over the place and getting open, possibly way downfield.
That said, I think he was off the field a ton whenever jumbo was in. And he is arguably the 5th read (maybe 4th) in the normal scheme.
We may need to grow him into the role. He should go watch some old Dressler film.
Don't need to go down to your 4th option when the top 3 are running open. I don't think KC got any catches either, but it's only been one game.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 12, 2025, 05:14:11 AMBut Mitchell was paid lower-top-tier money to come in and be the main guy after Dalton. He wasn't paid to come and lose out in TC competition.
It shouldn't have mattered how good Wheatie showed -- Wheatie should be the one headed for the PR as depth.
I'm not saying what Mafia is doing is wrong, I'm just saying that's not how it was supposed to be. If things didn't go according to plan, then that's a fail.
They scouted Mitchell's talent: but did they scout his attitude?
It's a fail? Finding a younger talent (Wheatfall) is a fail? It's a fail for Mitchell right now, but not for Walters and O'Shea. I think they have this right, Wheatfall is a stud hopefully he stays healthy this year. He has also bought into the O'Shea/Bomber way.
Onto Sterns, I really think he is going to be a go to guy for Collaros. The guy is a great route runner and has good hands. When Collaros can't find a deep threat he will go to Sterns. There's going to be some 10 catch/2 TD games in the near future for him.
Mitchell is the odd man out right now, hopefully he sticks around and gets a chance at some point. But it's going to take an injury for him to get in.
Quote from: jdrattops on June 14, 2025, 02:12:19 PMIt's a fail? Finding a younger talent (Wheatfall) is a fail? It's a fail for Mitchell right now, but not for Walters and O'Shea. I think they have this right, Wheatfall is a stud hopefully he stays healthy this year. He has also bought into the O'Shea/Bomber way.
Onto Sterns, I really think he is going to be a go to guy for Collaros. The guy is a great route runner and has good hands. When Collaros can't find a deep threat he will go to Sterns. There's going to be some 10 catch/2 TD games in the near future for him.
Mitchell is the odd man out right now, hopefully he sticks around and gets a chance at some point. But it's going to take an injury for him to get in.
Putting in the best player is the way to win. Regardless of contract, reputation, management or scouting error.
Sometimes O'Shea is criticized for not doing that.
Quote from: markf on June 14, 2025, 03:56:16 PMPutting in the best player is the way to win. Regardless of contract, reputation, management or scouting error.
Sometimes O'Shea is criticized for not doing that.
Agreed and I think we are doing that by putting Wheattie in, he has responded marvelously to the challenge and is a stud reciever. Not sure what's up with Mitchell, but no way do I pull Wheattie out of the lineup for him, I think Mitchell is proving to be a bust and needs to change his attitude or changes in the roster will be made
Quote from: DM83 on June 15, 2025, 04:58:09 AMWell either BC has a bunch of no talent guys, or our receivers looked awesome.
BC's REC corps is extremely weak this season. Maybe worse than SSK. Losing the 2nd H was a dumb idea. Remember, this is a team that had the 2 H's, plus McInnis PLUS Burnham at one time. Now
that was a corps!
The 2 NATs BC has look fine on paper, but Cottoy is limited to the Thick Nick routes and plowing. McInnis has been figured out, as seen by us shutting him down last season (minus the 1st game) and in the game on Thurs.
WPG REC group is surprisingly strong: and even stronger because our depth has at least 2 massively legit threats on the PR... AND Pokey may come back. Yikes!
Quote from: jdrattops on June 14, 2025, 02:12:19 PMIt's a fail? Finding a younger talent (Wheatfall) is a fail? It's a fail for Mitchell right now, but not for Walters and O'Shea.
Not a fail in that Wheatie beat him out, a fail in that we hired a potential non-starter for huge coin and 50% in signing bonus (flushed down the toilet if we cut him).
Good to have the depth, but we may need the $... might we try to market him for a trade? Some decent (2R?) DP, or... what do we still need, hmmm...
Quote from: Jesse on June 14, 2025, 01:55:17 PMDon't need to go down to your 4th option when the top 3 are running open. I don't think KC got any catches either, but it's only been one game.
Clercius had a very good clutch 2nd down conversion (or within 1 of it) early on. He was probably stuffed for a punt situation but freed himself enough to get forward enough.
In fact, our RECs were all doing that all night: stretching to get within 1 to save the punt. Love to see it! Big part of why we won.