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Title: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Pigskin on May 21, 2025, 08:46:51 PM
It will be nice to get back into PAS for some football. Like to see Wilson get at least a full half of playing time. I have a lot of interest in our 2025 draft class. For a lot players this might be there only shot at making the team.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 22, 2025, 01:52:39 AM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2025, 08:46:51 PMIt will be nice to get back into PAS for some football. Like to see Wilson get at least a full half of playing time. I have a lot of interest in our 2025 draft class. For a lot players this might be there only shot at making the team.
what does PAS mean? Pre *** Season football?  :D
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: dd on May 22, 2025, 01:59:00 AM
Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2025, 08:46:51 PMIt will be nice to get back into PAS for some football. Like to see Wilson get at least a full half of playing time. I have a lot of interest in our 2025 draft class. For a lot players this might be there only shot at making the team.
I think Wilson gets a half only if Strevy is unable to go, if healthy gets he'll get the majority of snaps as he's been out for a while and is our #2 Qb and he needs to get ready for Game #1
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 22, 2025, 06:03:33 AM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 22, 2025, 01:52:39 AMwhat does PAS mean? Pre *** Season football?  :D

Yes, that's exactly what it means!   :P
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 22, 2025, 06:08:30 AM
After watching the 1st half of the BC game, huge hits on sacks; I really don't want Zach playing much.  And if he is playing, I want the desired-starters OL protecting him.  Heck, I may want to protect Strev a bit too.  Let's mostly play the "expendables" -- we need to decide who to keep, anyhow.

The PS OLs are often stinky, have no cohesion, and so the DLs can just be mavericks trying to score stats.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Waffler on May 22, 2025, 11:39:08 AM
I don't see the point of playing Zach at all since he can't participate until game two, almost a month away. The only worry is the rust he showed early last year. Not sure how to address that since it will be a big gap in time between games even if he plays in either preseason. Likely MOS says he doesn't need the work and we have the familiar and reliable Schoen back so that can only help.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Blueforlife on May 22, 2025, 01:28:59 PM
Yes no Zach please
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 22, 2025, 11:20:26 PM
Saturday will be back up QB central. Need to see some nice execution!
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Waffler on May 23, 2025, 12:24:51 AM
Corey Mace lighting a fire in Sask. He must want revenge.

https://3downnation.com/2025/05/22/theres-zero-tolerance-for-that-corey-mace-makes-riders-run-calls-practice-early-after-undisciplined-penalties/
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 02:26:29 AM
Quote from: Waffler on May 22, 2025, 11:39:08 AMI don't see the point of playing Zach at all since he can't participate until game two, almost a month away. The only worry is the rust he showed early last year. Not sure how to address that since it will be a big gap in time between games even if he plays in either preseason. Likely MOS says he doesn't need the work and we have the familiar and reliable Schoen back so that can only help.

I still think our starters, including Zach, should get decent preseason time. MOS doesn't really buy into that though.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Blueforlife on May 23, 2025, 02:28:48 AM
Quote from: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 02:26:29 AMI still think our starters, including Zach, should get decent preseason time. MOS doesn't really buy into that though.
Disagree, check out the next gen, allow minimal reps for vets simple to warm up a bit before it actually counts is how I would do it.

Chance of injury too great to give starters decent preseason time.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: TecnoGenius on May 23, 2025, 07:26:42 AM
Quote from: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 02:26:29 AMI still think our starters, including Zach, should get decent preseason time. MOS doesn't really buy into that though.

MOS explicitly said last season that having the stars ignore PS was a mistake and (partically) cost us all those early games.  As such I think all healthy stars/starters will get series in the PS games.  Even Zach.

I think we give Zach 1-2 series on Sat.  Many of the starters and for-sure-cuts probably won't even be brought to the @SSK game, so this may be the only chance.

We just have to keep Zach clean, and pull him if the OL is majorly bad (i.e. 2-4 desired starters not playing).  Can do run-mostly and quick pass to help out.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 23, 2025, 07:26:42 AMMOS explicitly said last season that having the stars ignore PS was a mistake and (partically) cost us all those early games.  As such I think all healthy stars/starters will get series in the PS games.  Even Zach.

I think we give Zach 1-2 series on Sat.  Many of the starters and for-sure-cuts probably won't even be brought to the @SSK game, so this may be the only chance.

We just have to keep Zach clean, and pull him if the OL is majorly bad (i.e. 2-4 desired starters not playing).  Can do run-mostly and quick pass to help out.


I've also heard MOS laugh off the idea that we have slow starts or that our players are "rusty".

You never know with MOS.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 23, 2025, 12:37:31 PM
Quote from: Waffler on May 23, 2025, 12:24:51 AMCorey Mace lighting a fire in Sask. He must want revenge.

https://3downnation.com/2025/05/22/theres-zero-tolerance-for-that-corey-mace-makes-riders-run-calls-practice-early-after-undisciplined-penalties/
Well as long as they like to beat up each other that is fine with me.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 23, 2025, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: Waffler on May 23, 2025, 12:24:51 AMCorey Mace lighting a fire in Sask. He must want revenge.

https://3downnation.com/2025/05/22/theres-zero-tolerance-for-that-corey-mace-makes-riders-run-calls-practice-early-after-undisciplined-penalties/

Seems like a stunt to make by Mace to make headlines about Mace but we'll see how many WWE penalties the Riders get this year and if it will remain number one. Ultimately that's the proof point that matters.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: TBURGESS on May 23, 2025, 02:19:35 PM
I'd like to see the vets play a quarter this game and a half the next game, but I know that isn't going to happen. It's likely that we see Zach as much as we saw Adams in the BC/CGY. IE on the bench. 
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2025, 04:20:13 PM
Could care less who wins the pre-season games, the less we see of Zach and Brady the better.  More interested in seeing the new players and hope they all receive a fair opportunity to perform.  Seen it before when a 4th string QB is limited to a few dead snaps at the very end of a pre-season game and is cut the next day. 

It's important to establish continuity on the o-line and determine who among the candidates wins the few jobs available, hopefully the vets. all dress for the home-game and they can plug the competitors in one at a time so they're not badly influenced by rookie mistakes on their left or right.

It doesn't matter too much in any other position, although hard to judge the D-line playing against a raw O-line with no cohesion, pass rushers tend to look much better than they actually are in pre-season contests.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 23, 2025, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on May 23, 2025, 02:19:35 PMI'd like to see the vets play a quarter this game and a half the next game, but I know that isn't going to happen. It's likely that we see Zach as much as we saw Adams in the BC/CGY. IE on the bench.

If it were me, I'd start the starters tomorrow at home and give them a quarter or perhaps a half - no travel costs which is nice - everyone can be dressed. Then I'd bring a young group to Regina for the second pre-season game and see how much stress we can apply. 
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: blue_or_die on May 23, 2025, 06:49:12 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on May 23, 2025, 02:19:35 PMI'd like to see the vets play a quarter this game and a half the next game, but I know that isn't going to happen. It's likely that we see Zach as much as we saw Adams in the BC/CGY. IE on the bench.

Just wanted to say I like your new avatar very much.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 07:23:49 PM
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 23, 2025, 06:49:12 PMJust wanted to say I like your new avatar very much.

I want to see him change it back and forth from pleased Dwight to shocked Dwight based on what's going on with the Bombers at that particular moment.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 23, 2025, 04:20:13 PMCould care less who wins the pre-season games, the less we see of Zach and Brady the better.  More interested in seeing the new players and hope they all receive a fair opportunity to perform.  Seen it before when a 4th string QB is limited to a few dead snaps at the very end of a pre-season game and is cut the next day. 

It's important to establish continuity on the o-line and determine who among the candidates wins the few jobs available, hopefully the vets. all dress for the home-game and they can plug the competitors in one at a time so they're not badly influenced by rookie mistakes on their left or right.

It doesn't matter too much in any other position, although hard to judge the D-line playing against a raw O-line with no cohesion, pass rushers tend to look much better than they actually are in pre-season contests.

If we're not playing our starters in the preseason, why do it at all?

The OL needs to gel, and that means playing together as well as playing in front of Zach and Brady. Zach needs to develop timing with the receivers against competition. We have multiple new bodies as well as Dalton who hasn't played in a year.

We have so many positions that are set. Playing back-ups who are about to get cut is wasting our time. Give position groups a chance to work together before the season starts. It's what these games are meant for.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 23, 2025, 08:20:00 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 23, 2025, 02:01:43 PMSeems like a stunt to make by Mace to make headlines about Mace but we'll see how many WWE penalties the Riders get this year and if it will remain number one. Ultimately that's the proof point that matters.
indeed LOL
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: theaardvark on May 23, 2025, 08:52:17 PM
Will be nice to get out in the sun.  Wiating on news if there is a pre-game meal in the Pinnacle I should come early for...
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 23, 2025, 11:36:54 PM
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 23, 2025, 06:49:12 PMJust wanted to say I like your new avatar very much.
Fitting for ol' TBurg ain't it!  :D
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on May 23, 2025, 11:38:55 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on May 23, 2025, 08:52:17 PMWill be nice to get out in the sun.  Wiating on news if there is a pre-game meal in the Pinnacle I should come early for...
I heard it was spaghetti and very little meat in the sauce. ;)  :D
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: theaardvark on May 24, 2025, 03:52:00 PM
Got the email from Wade this morning at 7:49am...

Good afternoon,

Welcome back to Princess Auto Stadium and the Pinnacle Club!

We're excited to kick off the 2025 Blue Bomber season with you.

Tomorrow's Home Opener starts at 3:00 PM – Pinnacle opens early at 1:30 PM.

Pre-Game Culinary Station: BBQ Smokehouse – $33 (tax included)
Available before kick-off:

Cheddar Biscuits with Whipped Butter
Heritage Green Salad with Balsamic Dressing
Southern Coleslaw with Creamy Dressing
Crispy Fried Chicken
Applewood Smoked Brisket
Creamy Mashed Potatoes
Sweet Corn Nibletts
Bourbon BBQ Sauce
Hot Honey
 

New for 2025 – Half-Time Slider & Poutine Bar
Available at halftime only:

Two Sliders + Fries – $18 (tax included)
Two Sliders + Poutine – $21 (tax included)
Poutine Only – $18 (tax included)
 

Feature Sliders:

Beef Slider with Cheddar & Pickle
Smoked Brisket Slider with Provolone


I'll probably go early now...
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Jesse on May 24, 2025, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on May 24, 2025, 03:52:00 PMI'll probably go early now...

Yup. That's what I would do.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: theaardvark on May 25, 2025, 04:04:26 PM
The meals was m'eh.  I know, I make food critics blush, and I am rarely ever satisfied with anything, but when you pay top dollar for something, you expect to get some value and enjoyment.  And hopefully they take constructive criticism and get better.  Nothing harder in food service than bulk servicing dining for an unknown size of crowd with food that has to be prepared ahead and held for service, so the choices you make have to make sense.

I was disappointed they couldn't do more with it, the biscuits were rock hard, the coleslaw was weak. definitely not creamy and very raw cabbage tasting, the brisket was OK (surprisingly, I was able to talk them into 2 slices as well as 2 pieces of chicken), Chicken was very basic like a food service fried chicken you'd get at superstore in the big bag and while the skin was crunchy, it wasn't the good kind of crunchy.  But I ate most of it.

My buddy passed on the meal, and opted to eat at halftime.

Sliders and poutine.  They put the gravy on the fries, and the curds on top.  Who does that?  But a nice chunk of brisket on top of that, they failed to mention it was "Brisket Poutine", not sure if that was an accident, or they realized $18 for a poutine wasn't reasonable.  The sliders were apparently very good, overall, he said it was probably the best meal he's had in our years going to Pinnacle.

First meal of the year, room for improvement, lets hope they take up the challenge.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 25, 2025, 05:46:58 PM
Yes, but was the size of the cheese ladle to your satisfaction this time?
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: theaardvark on May 26, 2025, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 25, 2025, 05:46:58 PMYes, but was the size of the cheese ladle to your satisfaction this time?

Why waste your time and mine with inane comments?
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on May 26, 2025, 07:21:11 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on May 26, 2025, 05:04:57 PMWhy waste your time and mine with inane comments?

Oh sorry - that's not an important part of the annual buffet review this season? Okay, I was confused, however, please let me know next game if they continue to layer your stadium poutine in the wrong order or not.
Title: Re: Pre-season Riders @ Bombers.
Post by: Blueforlife on May 26, 2025, 07:25:58 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on May 26, 2025, 05:04:57 PMWhy waste your time and mine with inane comments?
Just ignore him, he is doing the same style of posts regarding the streaming issues.  Really disappointed here, a senior member of this forum not contributing or playing nice imo.  Too bad.  I enjoyed your take and it's good to hear the feedback, I'm sure it's helpful for others, don't let it discourage you!  Keep your content flowing! 😀