Rookie Camp observations and discussion can be handled here. If you attend any of the sessions, we encourage you to comment here.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/06/rookie-camp-25-primer/
There is a depth chart on 3rd down but I can't seem to copy and post it?
Quote from: ModAdmin on May 07, 2025, 04:18:18 PMRookie Camp observations and discussion can be handled here. If you attend any of the sessions, we encourage you to comment here.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/06/rookie-camp-25-primer/
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=f5d43987d4&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1831467538813496047&th=196aae05e4a32aef&view=att&zw&disp=safe
The google link doesn't work
Day 1 - Quick Hits
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/07/quick-hits-rookie-camp-day-1-4/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/07/quick-hits-rookie-camp-day-1-4/)
Lousy start to day 1 with news of the Collaros suspension for 1 game. Also see on CFL.CA that Lawson and Schoen both transferred to " Injured Veteran ". That may just be to allow a bit more time before any need for practice. I suppose in theory it creates 2 openings for rookies in the short term to be on the TC roster?
Rookie DB Vaval did not practice. Reason not given. Rookie DB Mosely left the field injured on a cart. That's not a good thing for either of them. Both were on the list of rookies to watch.
Elgersma expected to get an offer from the Packers. At best that's an additional delay as to when he'll be available. Good luck to him, but darn it anyway.
EDIT: I see that's part of the info in the link post above.
Mike O'Shea's observations on the Collaros suspension and Day 1 of Rookie Camp...
Crickets!!!
A rookie camp depth chart in the link. It seems to include all the veterans as well. Regardless it may hold some interest. Note that it also includes some players that were released earlier ( about 4 ).
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From Derek Taylor
Day 1
Bombers rookie camp is underway!! Early QB order appears: Collaros Streveler Wilson Artopoeus Patterson
Some veterans kicking around and some participating in rookie camp: WR Keric Wheatfall is not dressed, just helping out. WRs Myron Mitchell and Kody Case are participating. OL Micah Vanterpool working too.
The 300s are underway! The most-loathed of all camp running drills where you go 25 yards up and back six times.
Global defensive end Kemari Munier-Bailey lapped some players in his second heat. The way he moves you get a sense of why the Bombers moved up in the Global draft.
And then Rogers gets got by Myron Mitchell on the next rep. Gotta have a short memory in pro sports, they say.
Micah Vanterpool having some very good 1-on-1 reps at both guard and tackle. Bombers GM Kyle Walters brought up the possibility of going American at guard this season. Gotta believe Vanterpool is who he was thinking about.
I think it was Streveler who we heard lamenting "we gotta do (300s) again on Sunday"
Streveler ran real well and got love for his "robo-knee"
Day 2
Going to run some WR/DB 1 on 1s into the wind now. Myron Mitchell looked real shifty and made a nice over the top grab on a corner route.
Streveler with a nice throw on a post into the breeze. Laid it right on David Wallis
Chase Artopoeus throws a really nice football.
Speaking of nice footballs it's always fun to watch how accurate Zach Collaros is. It really stands out in a camp situation
To me Myron Mitchell stood out in that session. The year of experience last season certainly helps. Nice and smooth player.
And shoutout to DB Jordan Toles. Strong downhill interception on a comeback route.
3rd-round pick Ethan Vibert with a real nice 1 on 1 session at Center. Seemed to be giving exactly what the OL coach wanted.
Just a guess after 2 days of camp, but perhaps we should watch for Patrick Rogers as a guy to compete for the at field corner spot.
Nice updates, thanks all.
Rookie Camp Day 2
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/08/quick-hits-rookie-camp-day-2-4/
Coach O'Shea on Day 2
I really like how the media availability has ramped up again. It was getting old only having maybe 1 new presser every 2 months!!
This year I want more OC/DC pressers and field-level/post-practice ones. We barely heard anything from Younger last season. Maybe he's shy. This year we need both more him and more of the new (to OC) Hogan.
Today is the last time they get to show enough to be kept on the main TC roster. My count may be wrong but I think we have to cut 15 players by tomorrow. Moving Schoen and Lawson to " injured veteran " may reduce that to 13 but that's less clear.
There was something about Mosley getting injured on day 1 and taken off the field on a cart. I didn't hear anything further and wish him well. OTOH, regardless of the extent that puts him behind the 8 ball for the main TC. He may be released and brought back at a later date if they were high on high. Whether he's even going to be able play in 2025 is the 1st question.
Can we put Collaros "on suspension" as well for roster space? Or veteran IR?
Is Paterson working his way off the roster? Would he get a shot elsewhere?
Good to hear positive notes on Oline.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 09, 2025, 03:40:09 PMCan we put Collaros "on suspension" as well for roster space? Or veteran IR?
Is Paterson working his way off the roster? Would he get a shot elsewhere?
Good to hear positive notes on Oline.
You can't practice while suspended and I believe he intends to be at the main TC. That's just another " flaw " in the process. If a player is appealing a suspension then he can practice. My impression is that he was subject to a 2 game suspension if he choose to appeal and he choose the 1 game without appeal.
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 09, 2025, 04:18:25 PMYou can't practice while suspended and I believe he intends to be at the main TC. That's just another " flaw " in the process. If a player is appealing a suspension then he can practice. My impression is that he was subject to a 2 game suspension if he choose to appeal and he choose the 1 game without appeal.
The CFL loves their carrot and stick solutions as with the on-field coach's challenge, "you may be right, but you'll pay double if we don't agree with you".
More from Derek Taylor
Day 3
Bombers rookie camp day 3 is underway. THE PADS ARE ON!!
Guest appearance from Willie Jefferson today. He's in doing some solo prep work ahead of Sunday's opening of camp.
A nice breeze at camp today so they had kicker Andrew Mevis kicking from 58. Made it with plenty to spare.
Once again there's been a lot of love for Micah Vanterpool's work in 1-on-1 drills. OL coach Marty Costello effusive with his praise.
No Chase Artopoeus among the QBs today. Means Bisons QB Cole Anseeuw gets some extra action.
Should amend this. Artopoeus is working on a different part of the field and not throwing the receiver-DB 1-on-1s with the other QBs. My mistake.
Keilahn Harris makes fantastic leaping catch on sideline before Ethan Ball smacks him and forces him out of bounds. It's the DBs sideline so, of course, they ruled it incomplete
Tons of QB reps for Artopoeus in the final team period. All three days coaches have been giving him a real good look.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on May 09, 2025, 06:40:25 PMMore from Derek Taylor
Day 3
Bombers rookie camp day 3 is underway. THE PADS ARE ON!!
Guest appearance from Willie Jefferson today. He's in doing some solo prep work ahead of Sunday's opening of camp.
A nice breeze at camp today so they had kicker Andrew Mevis kicking from 58. Made it with plenty to spare.
Once again there's been a lot of love for Micah Vanterpool's work in 1-on-1 drills. OL coach Marty Costello effusive with his praise.
No Chase Artopoeus among the QBs today. Means Bisons QB Cole Anseeuw gets some extra action.
Should amend this. Artopoeus is working on a different part of the field and not throwing the receiver-DB 1-on-1s with the other QBs. My mistake.
Keilahn Harris makes fantastic leaping catch on sideline before Ethan Ball smacks him and forces him out of bounds. It's the DBs sideline so, of course, they ruled it incomplete
Tons of QB reps for Artopoeus in the final team period. All three days coaches have been giving him a real good look.
See, we've been so focused on Randolph, but DT keeps bringing up Vanterpool (Walters has mentioned him too).
Quote from: Jesse on May 09, 2025, 11:00:17 PMSee, we've been so focused on Randolph, but DT keeps bringing up Vanterpool (Walters has mentioned him too).
Another key TC battle / competition
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 09, 2025, 11:24:34 PMAnother key TC battle / competition
Note the distinction though. There is not an existing starter at LG. It's an open spot.
Quote from: Jesse on May 09, 2025, 11:27:05 PMNote the distinction though. There is not an existing starter at LG. It's an open spot.
Yup and a good example of how the Bombers do TC competitions.
You had said "This team doesn't really do TC competitions", which I disagreed with. Were you refering to TC comps for positions already mostly locked down or in general?
Quote from: theaardvark on May 09, 2025, 03:40:09 PMIs Paterson working his way off the roster? Would he get a shot elsewhere?
Patterson probably will get at least 1 more shot. He's like many in that mid-range tier. Like Crum, Powell, and a while back Franklin. Like maybe there's something there.
However, since he's never going to be a SY specialist, he has to start showing things soon or he will stop getting shots. If he's cheap, I'd keep him just for trade-bait. When the injuries hit other teams, try to get a 3RDP for him.
Quote from: Blueforlife on May 10, 2025, 12:16:26 AMYup and a good example of how the Bombers do TC competitions.
You had said "This team doesn't really do TC competitions", which I disagreed with. Were you refering to TC comps for positions already mostly locked down or in general?
I was 100% referring to spots where there is already an existing player written in.
This started with talking about QBs. Streveler is the guy, there's not a competition for his spot. He's already got it.
Quote from: Jesse on May 09, 2025, 11:00:17 PMSee, we've been so focused on Randolph, but DT keeps bringing up Vanterpool (Walters has mentioned him too).
The funny thing is, it really doesn't matter whether it's Vanterpool or Randolph! They are basically the same guy from a ratio and dev standpoint.
Maybe the bigger headline is the 2 favorites are both IMPs and Wallace isn't getting any love. All roads lead to 3 IMP OL... at least for now.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 10, 2025, 02:56:48 AMThe funny thing is, it really doesn't matter whether it's Vanterpool or Randolph! They are basically the same guy from a ratio and dev standpoint.
Maybe the bigger headline is the 2 favorites are both IMPs and Wallace isn't getting any love. All roads lead to 3 IMP OL... at least for now.
I just want to know who lines up first when TC opens. That will more than likely be the guy.
Are both Vanterpool and Randolph practicing?
Quote from: theaardvark on May 10, 2025, 04:55:48 AMAre both Vanterpool and Randolph practicing?
Good question. I don't think DT has mentioned Randolph's name even once in his daily summaries!
Isn't there any of us fans at TC? Or is it not open to public?
This is still rookie mini-camp. Still gonna have to wait until Monday probably.
Quote from: Jesse on May 10, 2025, 02:36:09 AMI was 100% referring to spots where there is already an existing player written in.
This started with talking about QBs. Streveler is the guy, there's not a competition for his spot. He's already got it.
A misunderstanding and thanks for clearing it up.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 10, 2025, 06:11:46 AMGood question. I don't think DT has mentioned Randolph's name even once in his daily summaries!
Isn't there any of us fans at TC? Or is it not open to public?
MOS mentioned in one of his press conferences something about 7 games on the AR determining if a player had to attend rookie camp or not, don't know where that ruling comes from or if a returning player has the choice. Myron Mitchell played 4, Wheatfall 7, Vanterpool 2, Randolph 6, and Kody Case 3, so good chance they're all there.
former Bomber Jonathan Rosery didn't make it out of Edm rookie camp. Cut today.
Son of former Bomber, Harold Nash III released also.
https://www.cfl.ca/2025/05/09/cutdown-tracker-teams-make-their-first-round-of-cuts-2/
Bombers:
Released: Wide receiver D'Marcus Adams*, wide receiver Geordon Porter*, offensive lineman Michael Todd*, defensive back Jordan Toles*, defensive back Quandre Mosely*, defensive lineman Dreydon Hall*, defensive lineman Camron Peterson*, linebacker Kobe Wilson*, defensive back Duron Lowe*
Photos from rookie camp
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/09/rookie-camp-photo-gallery/ (https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/05/09/rookie-camp-photo-gallery/)
Quote from: Jesse on May 10, 2025, 12:07:07 PMThis is still rookie mini-camp. Still gonna have to wait until Monday probably.
Call me confused then, "7 games on AR" or whatever, the players in the slideshow make no sense whatsoever. Clearly it's not a camp just for rookies. Why Vanterpool (definitely not in his first year!) would qualify but not Randolph (probably close but not over 7 GP on AR) is beyond me!
Strev certainly ain't no rookie!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 11, 2025, 06:39:09 AMCall me confused then, "7 games on AR" or whatever, the players in the slideshow make no sense whatsoever. Clearly it's not a camp just for rookies. Why Vanterpool (definitely not in his first year!) would qualify but not Randolph (probably close but not over 7 GP on AR) is beyond me!
Strev certainly ain't no rookie!
From what I remember in the past it was up to the player if they were a "semi-rookie".
If you've had some games on the AR, personal choice.
Some players would take the extra few days rest over getting a head start. I think we value the players commitment though, all things equal.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 11, 2025, 06:39:09 AMCall me confused then, "7 games on AR" or whatever, the players in the slideshow make no sense whatsoever. Clearly it's not a camp just for rookies. Why Vanterpool (definitely not in his first year!) would qualify but not Randolph (probably close but not over 7 GP on AR) is beyond me!
Strev certainly ain't no rookie!
Quarterbacks are exempt. Obviously you can't run training camp sessions (or evaluate half the position groups) without quarterbacks.