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Title: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 25, 2025, 01:41:48 PM
If anyone hears of any Canadians being drafted or signed post draft as UDFA's, this might be a spot to comment. The NFL draft takes forever. As far as I could tell only 2 QB's were drafted in the 1st round. I did find that a bit unusual.

Only 5 QB's taken by the end of round 3.  Rourke not drafted yet.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: DCM on April 26, 2025, 06:00:20 PM
Tennessee Titans have drafted WR Elic Ayomanor at 136 (R4-P34). Went to Stanford, from Medicine Hat.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 26, 2025, 10:30:27 PM
Kurtis Rourke to the San Fran 49ers. Pick 227 I thought he'd be going higher. Not sure what this says for his chances to make the roster.

DL, Harris and Shand sign UDFA contracts. QB Elsgerma invited to rookie camps but waiting for an UDFA contract.

Probably hear about a few more Canadians getting a chance to sign UDFA deals. Does anyone have any idea on what the success rate of making a roster for UDFA's?  It can't be great but I understand why any player would be interested to compete.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: TecnoGenius on April 27, 2025, 01:47:15 AM
How many of our most promising hoggies got stolen drafted by the NFL this year?  I think that's one of the areas that hurts the CFL the most.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 27, 2025, 03:14:35 PM
Damien Alford and Devin Veresuk sign rookie mini camp deals.

Comment on 3rd down that very few Canadian prospects signed UDFA deals and only a few got mini camp invites. That may raise the interest in the CFL draft for those players.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 26, 2025, 10:30:27 PMKurtis Rourke to the San Fran 49ers. Pick 227 I thought he'd be going higher. Not sure what this says for his chances to make the roster.

DL, Harris and Shand sign UDFA contracts. QB Elsgerma invited to rookie camps but waiting for an UDFA contract.

Probably hear about a few more Canadians getting a chance to sign UDFA deals. Does anyone have any idea on what the success rate of making a roster for UDFA's?  It can't be great but I understand why any player would be interested to compete.

Considering the 49ers current starting QB is also a 7th round draft pick probably not much.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 27, 2025, 07:59:35 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 07:50:06 PMConsidering the 49ers current starting QB is also a 7th round draft pick probably not much.

That was more fluke than knowledge in his pick.  I think during the draft the broadcasters mentioned QB's selected after the 4th round have had nearly zero success in the NFL.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 27, 2025, 07:59:35 PMThat was more fluke than knowledge in his pick.  I think during the draft the broadcasters mentioned QB's selected after the 4th round have had nearly zero success in the NFL.

Lol okay. Google a guy named Tom Brady. Fluke too, probably.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: DCM on April 27, 2025, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 10:15:47 PMLol okay. Google a guy named Tom Brady. Fluke too, probably.
They literally said there was nearly zero, not zero, which is factually true.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 10:29:56 PM
Quote from: DCM on April 27, 2025, 10:23:31 PMThey literally said there was nearly zero, not zero, which is factually true.

There aren't many, but if you're going to make the statement, I mean, probably best quarterback to ever play was a 6th round pick.

And consider, Rourke was drafted by an NFL team currently paying a 7th round pick $5.3M  to start this season.

Sooooo... two pretty big cavets to "don't worry he's going nowhere in the NFL cause he's after round 4"

Finally,  he very likely would have been drafted higher had he not been so hurt last year and doing pretty serious rehab right now.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 27, 2025, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 10:15:47 PMLol okay. Google a guy named Tom Brady. Fluke too, probably.

There are probably 100's in the last 30 years that tanked for every one that didn't. That's the point.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 27, 2025, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 10:29:56 PMThere aren't many, but if you're going to make the statement, I mean, probably best quarterback to ever play was a 6th round pick.

And consider, Rourke was drafted by an NFL team currently paying a 7th round pick $5.3M  to start this season.

Sooooo... two pretty big cavets to "don't worry he's going nowhere in the NFL cause he's after round 4"

Finally,  he very likely would have been drafted higher had he not been so hurt last year and doing pretty serious rehab right now.

$5.3M is almost chump change in the NFL. Didn't Russell Wilson just get $21M guaranteed this week?
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on April 27, 2025, 11:06:13 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 27, 2025, 10:54:25 PM$5.3M is almost chump change in the NFL. Didn't Russell Wilson just get $21M guaranteed this week?

Yes but they're not going to let him play out his contract I don't think.

5.3M is just the final year of his rookie deal - most sources expect him to land a pretty significant extension.

If he doesn't though for some reason, that only makes it more likely Rourke has a bit of a shot, no?
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: dd on April 27, 2025, 11:29:53 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 26, 2025, 10:30:27 PMKurtis Rourke to the San Fran 49ers. Pick 227 I thought he'd be going higher. Not sure what this says for his chances to make the roster.

DL, Harris and Shand sign UDFA contracts. QB Elsgerma invited to rookie camps but waiting for an UDFA contract.

Probably hear about a few more Canadians getting a chance to sign UDFA deals. Does anyone have any idea on what the success rate of making a roster for UDFA's?  It can't be great but I understand why any player would be interested to compete.
Zero chance he makes their roster. Zero.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 28, 2025, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: dd on April 27, 2025, 11:29:53 PMZero chance he makes their roster. Zero.

Not sure but he might stick out 2025 waiting for other offers even if they are for being on a PR. His brother earned some cash doing that but he had CFL experience that Kurtis doesn't.

He probably gets drafted tomorrow but by which team and which round?
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Jesse on April 28, 2025, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: dd on April 27, 2025, 11:29:53 PMZero chance he makes their roster. Zero.

I think they're going to put him on some kind of IR for the year. I could see him spend at least a couple of years  on the PR.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 28, 2025, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: Jesse on April 28, 2025, 06:31:55 PMI think they're going to put him on some kind of IR for the year. I could see him spend at least a couple of years  on the PR.

IR would be an expensive choice. PR more likely and less expensive. Even the NFL makes business decisions.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Jesse on April 28, 2025, 07:36:45 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 28, 2025, 06:56:51 PMIR would be an expensive choice. PR more likely and less expensive. Even the NFL makes business decisions.

However they designate it - I don't know all the codes NFL has available to them. I think they are going to let him heal, because he's not expected to be medically cleared for training camp, and then let him develop for a bit. I don't expect a quick decision on him.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: theaardvark on April 28, 2025, 09:01:07 PM
Can you PR an injured player?  It sounds like he's going to miss most if not all the season with an ACL repair, having played the whole season with it torn.

He sounds like a good fit for the 49ers, so I don't think they will give up on him quickly.  Just where they will put him until he can play is the question.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 28, 2025, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on April 28, 2025, 09:01:07 PMCan you PR an injured player?  It sounds like he's going to miss most if not all the season with an ACL repair, having played the whole season with it torn.

He sounds like a good fit for the 49ers, so I don't think they will give up on him quickly.  Just where they will put him until he can play is the question.

Hmmmm. Well it's an injury sustained in college so there must be some provision to cover that. I can't see him being paid a full salary paid on IR. Technically they could cut him tomorrow since he was just drafted.

I wasn't aware he was likely to miss all or most of this season. That explains the low draft pick I suppose and makes drafting him in the CFL a higher risk. He might not be available until 2027 or beyond.
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: theaardvark on April 29, 2025, 06:09:38 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on April 28, 2025, 09:55:35 PMHmmmm. Well it's an injury sustained in college so there must be some provision to cover that. I can't see him being paid a full salary paid on IR. Technically they could cut him tomorrow since he was just drafted.

I wasn't aware he was likely to miss all or most of this season. That explains the low draft pick I suppose and makes drafting him in the CFL a higher risk. He might not be available until 2027 or beyond.

ACL isn't a career ender anymore, as long as they can rehab from it.  He also had hand surgery.  Is this a symptom or a co-incedence?   

He is still going to be drafted in the CFL draft, but I can't see it being early... 3rd round maybe...
Title: Re: NFL Draft ( Canadians )
Post by: Blue In BC on April 29, 2025, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on April 29, 2025, 06:09:38 AMACL isn't a career ender anymore, as long as they can rehab from it.  He also had hand surgery.  Is this a symptom or a co-incedence?   

He is still going to be drafted in the CFL draft, but I can't see it being early... 3rd round maybe...

He'll recover. It's just a matter of when and where they park him in the meantime.