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Title: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 04, 2025, 11:51:27 PM
According to sources, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers have agreed to terms on a one-year contract with American receiver Reggie White Jr.

The six-foot-one, 208-pound target played 12 games with the Montreal Alouettes this past season, recording 24 catches for 355 yards and four touchdowns.

The 28-year-old first joined the Alouettes in 2021 following a stint with the New York Giants. He has made 95 receptions for 1,254 yards and eight touchdowns over 32 career regular-season CFL games. White Jr. missed the entire 2023 season due to a knee injury he suffered in October 2022.

The native of Randallstown, Md. is the son of Reggie White, who played four seasons along the defensive line with the San Diego Chargers and New England Patriots. He is sometimes confused for Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee Reggie White, who played along the defensive line with the Philadelphia Eagles, Green Bay Packers, and Carolina Panthers from 1985 to 2000.

https://3downnation.com/2025/02/04/winnipeg-blue-bombers-agree-to-terms-with-reggie-white-jr-sources/
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: dd on February 05, 2025, 12:08:15 AM
That would be a decent addition.

Mitchell, Schoen, White and Demski are all decent targets, and our offense won't be as predictable with Lawler gone. We were definitely hoping and praying on some desperation throws to him. Just throw it to the guy who's open, no one open , check it down, it ain't hard
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 05, 2025, 07:41:11 AM
Meh.  Nice depth.  Hope we didn't pay tier-1 $ for him though!

He's never stood out in fantasy, so he's more of a 3/4/5th target.  And he's been injured and missed so many games the last 2 seasons that it's hard to get a bead on the guy.

This does allow us to get some inside dirt on MTL's O for a potential GC match, though.

I'll have to trust that this is a Mafia-style diamond-in-the-rough signing and not a "poop, we lost Kenny!" desperation move!

Does anyone know this guy's style?  Kenny-like?  Schoen-like?  Bruiser or circus?  Fast or thick-nick?

In any event, welcome to Winnipeg!  If any team can take a middling guy and make him shine, it's us!
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Blue In BC on February 05, 2025, 01:04:30 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 05, 2025, 07:41:11 AMMeh.  Nice depth.  Hope we didn't pay tier-1 $ for him though!

He's never stood out in fantasy, so he's more of a 3/4/5th target.  And he's been injured and missed so many games the last 2 seasons that it's hard to get a bead on the guy.

This does allow us to get some inside dirt on MTL's O for a potential GC match, though.

I'll have to trust that this is a Mafia-style diamond-in-the-rough signing and not a "poop, we lost Kenny!" desperation move!

Does anyone know this guy's style?  Kenny-like?  Schoen-like?  Bruiser or circus?  Fast or thick-nick?

In any event, welcome to Winnipeg!  If any team can take a middling guy and make him shine, it's us!

Well it's better to have someone with some CFL experience to start the season. I doubt he has a significant contract. Losing Lawler, O.Wilson and Woli is a lot of changes to start the season. So let him compete with the rookies at TC and even Wheatfall.

I support the addition but he's not guaranteed to make the roster if some of the rookies turn out to be the next Wilson.

He probably will arrive " hungry " to impress and will be pencilled in to be on the AR.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 05, 2025, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 05, 2025, 07:41:11 AMMeh.  Nice depth.  Hope we didn't pay tier-1 $ for him though!

He's never stood out in fantasy, so he's more of a 3/4/5th target.  And he's been injured and missed so many games the last 2 seasons that it's hard to get a bead on the guy.

This does allow us to get some inside dirt on MTL's O for a potential GC match, though.

I'll have to trust that this is a Mafia-style diamond-in-the-rough signing and not a "poop, we lost Kenny!" desperation move!

Does anyone know this guy's style?  Kenny-like?  Schoen-like?  Bruiser or circus?  Fast or thick-nick?

In any event, welcome to Winnipeg!  If any team can take a middling guy and make him shine, it's us!

Closest in skills to Mitchell I think, he's not an elite receiver like Lawler because he lacks the ability to make circus catches twisting in space as most receivers do, but he runs smooth routes and has decent if not great hands. They removed another great blocker from the lineup when they cut Woli, receiving corps. has been losing some of it's grit in the last few years.

Looking over remaining FA WR's Hergy Mayala caught my eye, isn't he the super fast Natl. that used to play for the Stamps? Noticed a big improvement in his hands and receiving abilities last season catching balls in traffic, his biggest drawback is that he struggles to stay healthy.

Found these highlights from last season.

Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Pigskin on February 05, 2025, 10:47:03 PM
Mayala could be a very good receiver, but he can stay healthy.  A guy like Bailey was hardly ever injured.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 06, 2025, 06:48:51 AM
Quote from: Pigskin on February 05, 2025, 10:47:03 PMMayala could be a very good receiver, but he can stay healthy.  A guy like Bailey was hardly ever injured.

Ya, Mayala really had a breakout year in terms of looking more elite (for a NAT).  Making surprising catches he normally doesn't.

As a depth guy with no up-front bonus, thus no SMS risk when he gets 6G'd, he might be a good fit.  However, if we shed basically the same thing in Woli, why would we get an even more tub-bound player?  Looks like we're aiming to be healthier/younger.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: BLUEBOMBER on February 06, 2025, 06:53:55 AM
All that matters if if Collaros stays healthy and is still top notch otherwise, it won't matter what receivers we have.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 06, 2025, 07:02:49 AM
Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on February 06, 2025, 06:53:55 AMAll that matters if if Collaros stays healthy and is still top notch otherwise, it won't matter what receivers we have.

Healthy, yes.  But top OL and top RECs are just as critical.  Many here think Matty Ice wasn't very good, but when he had his top OL and great RECs he looked just as good as Zach.  Heck, many of Matt Nichols' best games were better than Zach's worst last season.

So you can get by on either, or a mix.  If you get the perfect storm of all 3, you're unstoppable, like WPG in '21.

It would be nice to see Zach up his game to '21-'22 levels... but that ship may have sailed(?).  We can compensate with better OL & REC.  However, so far in this FA we've improved neither.  Maybe there's still moves to make... Kenny leaving and Schoen taking less $ gives us a massive hole in the SMS.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 06, 2025, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 06, 2025, 07:02:49 AMHealthy, yes.  But top OL and top RECs are just as critical.  Many here think Matty Ice wasn't very good, but when he had his top OL and great RECs he looked just as good as Zach.  Heck, many of Matt Nichols' best games were better than Zach's worst last season.

So you can get by on either, or a mix.  If you get the perfect storm of all 3, you're unstoppable, like WPG in '21.

It would be nice to see Zach up his game to '21-'22 levels... but that ship may have sailed(?).  We can compensate with better OL & REC.  However, so far in this FA we've improved neither.  Maybe there's still moves to make... Kenny leaving and Schoen taking less $ gives us a massive hole in the SMS.


Matt Nichols never looked as good as Zach Collaros.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: theaardvark on February 06, 2025, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 06, 2025, 07:02:49 AMHealthy, yes.  But top OL and top RECs are just as critical.  Many here think Matty Ice wasn't very good, but when he had his top OL and great RECs he looked just as good as Zach.  Heck, many of Matt Nichols' best games were better than Zach's worst last season.

So you can get by on either, or a mix.  If you get the perfect storm of all 3, you're unstoppable, like WPG in '21.

It would be nice to see Zach up his game to '21-'22 levels... but that ship may have sailed(?).  We can compensate with better OL & REC.  However, so far in this FA we've improved neither.  Maybe there's still moves to make... Kenny leaving and Schoen taking less $ gives us a massive hole in the SMS.


Schoen is an $SMS savings if his bonuses are small or he doesn't make them, neither of which is a certainty.  White/Mitchell vs Wilson/Lawler is not much of a $SMS savings if any.  So, not really a "massive" $SMS hole.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 06, 2025, 04:36:49 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 06, 2025, 07:02:49 AMHealthy, yes.  But top OL and top RECs are just as critical.  Many here think Matty Ice wasn't very good, but when he had his top OL and great RECs he looked just as good as Zach.  Heck, many of Matt Nichols' best games were better than Zach's worst last season.

So you can get by on either, or a mix.  If you get the perfect storm of all 3, you're unstoppable, like WPG in '21.

It would be nice to see Zach up his game to '21-'22 levels... but that ship may have sailed(?).  We can compensate with better OL & REC.  However, so far in this FA we've improved neither.  Maybe there's still moves to make... Kenny leaving and Schoen taking less $ gives us a massive hole in the SMS.


As an older QB I hope Zach trained cardio with Trevor Harris this off-season and didn't neglect road-work, he's lost noticeable foot speed over the last few years maybe due to muscle gain.  As he discovered last season, being able to take off a few times per game can be very useful, if presented an open lane with an safe slide.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: dd on February 06, 2025, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 06, 2025, 03:51:41 PMMatt Nichols never looked as good as Zach Collaros.
No he didn't, but there were times last year when Zach Collaros looked like Matt Nichols!!
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: theaardvark on February 06, 2025, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: dd on February 06, 2025, 05:42:54 PMNo he didn't, but there were times last year when Zach Collaros looked like Matt Nichols!!

No, there were times when we WISHED Zach looked like Matt Nichols...
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 06, 2025, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: dd on February 06, 2025, 05:42:54 PMNo he didn't, but there were times last year when Zach Collaros looked like Matt Nichols!!

Garbage comment. Grow up.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: DM83 on February 06, 2025, 11:46:12 PM
Zac is four times as good as Matt.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: dd on February 06, 2025, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 06, 2025, 06:48:34 PMGarbage comment. Grow up.
Just being honest bro, take off your blue shades when you watch the game. I honestly thought Matt Nichols played as good as Collaros did last season, very inconsistent and throwing a ton of picks is what I remember.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 07, 2025, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 06, 2025, 03:51:41 PMMatt Nichols never looked as good as Zach Collaros.

I have a ton of games on PVR from '18 and '19 that say otherwise!!  You're being blinded by bias.  Zach had a ton of stinky clinkers in '23 and '24.  Including the GC(s).
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on February 07, 2025, 11:43:34 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 07, 2025, 08:56:06 AMI have a ton of games on PVR from '18 and '19 that say otherwise!!  You're being blinded by bias.  Zach had a ton of stinky clinkers in '23 and '24.  Including the GC(s).

I can't speak to what's on your PVR and Collaros as he's got older and as defenses have had time to scheme him has been less effective (while still winning boat loads of games) but if you think that the two were equally talented I wholeheartedly disagree. They are two different tiers of players.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2025, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: dd on February 06, 2025, 11:50:53 PMJust being honest bro, take off your blue shades when you watch the game. I honestly thought Matt Nichols played as good as Collaros did last season, very inconsistent and throwing a ton of picks is what I remember.

The irony of you accusing anyone else of being biased is comical. And you're not being honest at all.

Go look at the stats yourself. 2017 (103.8 QBR) and 2019 (107.2 QBR) are two examples where Nichols played very well. The latter was unfortunately short-lived due to injury.

Also: Nichols never threw more picks than TDs during his time with the Bombers. I'm no mathematician but 89 TDs to 42 INTs flies in the face of your dishonest claim.

Like I said: grow up and try being objective. Nobody likes liars, bro.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: DM83 on February 07, 2025, 02:40:19 PM
Both guys need an offensive line. Tough making any throws from the seat of your pants.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 07, 2025, 05:21:06 PM
Quote from: dd on February 06, 2025, 11:50:53 PMJust being honest bro, take off your blue shades when you watch the game. I honestly thought Matt Nichols played as good as Collaros did last season, very inconsistent and throwing a ton of picks is what I remember.

Two things Matt Nichols was allergic to, throwing picks and being sacked. He rarely threw 50/50 balls because LaPo programmed him to look for the safest route to the opposition 40, which was Medlock territory. Everything beyond 3 points was considered gravy.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 08, 2025, 01:35:23 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 07, 2025, 11:43:34 AMI can't speak to what's on your PVR and Collaros as he's got older and as defenses have had time to scheme him has been less effective (while still winning boat loads of games) but if you think that the two were equally talented I wholeheartedly disagree. They are two different tiers of players.

I never said they were equally talented.  Zach always had that something "extra".  But Matty was a very good QB when his team was good and gelled around him.  We had long stretches of superb winning at home with Matty at the helm, with bucket tons of O.

I agree with everything you say here, what bugs me is some thinking Bad Zach is always better than Best Day Nichols.  It's not true.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 08, 2025, 01:37:14 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 07, 2025, 05:21:06 PMTwo things Matt Nichols was allergic to, throwing picks and being sacked. He rarely threw 50/50 balls because LaPo programmed him to look for the safest route to the opposition 40, which was Medlock territory. Everything beyond 3 points was considered gravy.

And that ideology lasted well into the Zach years.  It was when Meddie quit that we stopped that paradigm.  And that's too bad, as the "just get to the 40" was a superb game plan that won us a ton of games.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: dd on February 08, 2025, 02:39:17 AM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2025, 01:20:30 PMGo look at the stats yourself. 2017 (103.8 QBR) and 2019 (107.2 QBR) are two examples where Nichols played very well. The latter was unfortunately short-lived due to injury.

Also: Nichols never threw more picks than TDs during his time with the Bombers. I'm no mathematician but 89 TDs to 42 INTs flies in the face of your dishonest claim.

In 2024, Collaros was ranked 9th out of 9 starting Qb's in the league, so last, threw 17 TD's and 15 picks, and don't include the Grey Cup stats as it would be 17 TD's, 19 picks...those are backup stats. Everyone likes to kick around Nichols, I was just pointing out our beloved Zachary looked bad at times this year, real bad. He started off like wild fire for us, but the last 2 years has struggled with playing consistent, clean football.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 08, 2025, 02:43:54 AM
Quote from: dd on February 08, 2025, 02:39:17 AMHe started off like wild fire for us, but the last 2 years has struggled with playing consistent, clean football.

Yup, he's has great games ('24 WDF was good for example), and a whole lot more clinkers lately.  The D helped out drastically in '24 to get us those W's.

I think Zach can still do it, but we really need to get better on OL, and Zach really needs to up his game.  I want him to work on a faster wind-up.  He may be the slowest in the league and it gives DBs a chance to jump routes.

We need near-league-top OL to have a great Zach, and we need to start treating Zach more like a late-stage Ricky Ray -- just stay in the pocket and deliver the ball.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Jesse on February 08, 2025, 04:11:16 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 08, 2025, 01:35:23 AMI agree with everything you say here, what bugs me is some thinking Bad Zach is always better than Best Day Nichols.  It's not true.

It's just an odd point to make.

Every bad QB has had good games that are better than a good QBs bad games. What's the point?

And I'm not saying Marty was a bad QB. He was great for us, just not sure what point you're trying to make with that one.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 08, 2025, 04:38:17 AM
Quote from: Jesse on February 08, 2025, 04:11:16 AMIt's just an odd point to make.

Every bad QB has had good games that are better than a good QBs bad games. What's the point?

And I'm not saying Marty was a bad QB. He was great for us, just not sure what point you're trying to make with that one.

Because it's not just one game here and one game there.  Matty's best season in WPG (2019?) probably had more "good QB" games than Zach's worst season in WPG (2024).
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: DM83 on February 08, 2025, 11:08:48 PM
Zac has suffered by a **** offensive line. Get some blocking and he will shine. Simple.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: dd on February 09, 2025, 02:15:11 AM
Quote from: DM83 on February 08, 2025, 11:08:48 PMZac has suffered by a **** offensive line. Get some blocking and he will shine. Simple.
Agree, as much as we think our OL is good, last years OL was not that good, and ZC play suffered. He was not confortable or confident back there, and his passing stats took a beating. We need to replace all star Dobson and get an upgrade at centre to upgrade our OL
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: DM83 on February 09, 2025, 03:35:28 AM
I can not believe Dobson was an all-star. Well Ottawa will see as Drew gets killed.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: dd on February 09, 2025, 03:47:23 AM
Ya, I here ya, I thought he was slow and got beat with speed routinely. But he was a load and hard to move so could win the 1 on 1 strength battles, but any whips or stunts by the D line, he was beat easily.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 09, 2025, 05:53:25 AM
Dobson was middling for a NAT guard.  Good enough, certainly.  But not 2021 WPG OL quality.  I think he may have been pushed in too soon.

Plus, we seem to try to turn mid / late level DPs into starting OL.  It doesn't and can't always work out.  Heck, even some of our early DPs don't turn out great (Gray).

I really think that our best option in terms of what we have here right now is starting Randolph at LG.

Stan - Randolph - Ko-man - Neuf - Lofton  (6th/7th: Eli, Wallace)

The only other thing I can see is luring some top LG away in FA.  Dunno who that might be.  But I'd sure be excited if it was announced tomorrow!!

I guess Ko-man is the next weakest link, but I think we can have a great OL even if it's him at C.  He improves every year and he seems to have a lot of heart and FIFO.

I don't want to even think about Stan/Neuf retiring... that's for '26+ hopefully.  Worry about this season right now.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: DM83 on February 09, 2025, 09:34:37 PM
What's a FIFO?
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Blue In BC on February 09, 2025, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: DM83 on February 09, 2025, 09:34:37 PMWhat's a FIFO?

First in first out.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: theaardvark on February 09, 2025, 09:41:03 PM
I think we are more of a LIFO or a FILO team...  all things being equal, which they seldom are. 
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: DM83 on February 10, 2025, 05:45:55 PM
*** are you people talking about? fIFO is that your own creation? SNAFU. Speak in sentences. FIFO!!!! ******!
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: theaardvark on February 11, 2025, 03:11:45 AM
Quote from: DM83 on February 10, 2025, 05:45:55 PM*** are you people talking about? fIFO is that your own creation? SNAFU. Speak in sentences. FIFO!!!! ******!

FIFO is used in many different applications, mainly in inventory control.  First in, first out means you are rotating stock.

In the case of employment, FILO (First in, Last out) is usually the key, seniority...
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: TecnoGenius on February 11, 2025, 10:43:32 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on February 09, 2025, 09:37:44 PMFirst in first out.

I assume you guys are kidding?  Anyone who follows the WFC knows what FIFO means in the locker room.  They've only been talking about it near non-stop (even MOS, once!) for how many years now?

Fit In or Fffffff Off

Ko-man definitely seems to fit in.  So I wouldn't expect he gets the FO treatment anytime soon.
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: DM83 on February 11, 2025, 01:55:18 PM
So much for a family atmosphere! Lol!
Title: Re: Winnipeg Blue Bombers agree to terms with Reggie White Jr.: sources
Post by: Blue In BC on February 11, 2025, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 11, 2025, 10:43:32 AMI assume you guys are kidding?  Anyone who follows the WFC knows what FIFO means in the locker room.  They've only been talking about it near non-stop (even MOS, once!) for how many years now?

Fit In or Fffffff Off

Ko-man definitely seems to fit in.  So I wouldn't expect he gets the FO treatment anytime soon.


Yes. Partially kidding. I did expect some deletions at the top and that did happen.  Teams look to replace long standing veterans as age, injuries and SMS creep up. Teams adjust from both the top and the bottom when making changes.