Definitely THE most important game of the year to this point.
The Bomber injury list looks like we have some choices to make on who plays and who doesn't...
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Coach O'Shea's thoughts on the WDF...
More on the game as information becomes available. In the meantime, let's go Bombers!!!
JTFC, it's here guys.
I can't think of a scenario where this isn't close if both teams are playing to capability, and there's no reason to think they won't. And if that's the case, I think our overall talent, post season experience and raucous home crowd will have the boys in blue prevailing.
I think the biggest thing the Riders have at the moment is momentum, which can be everything in pro sports. Good on them for finishing the back third of their season and semifinal so strong. They will be coming in completely fired up. The only thing that scares me is that when we are off, we are really off. That's completely unacceptable in the playoffs of course and I'm glad we got that dud out of our system recently with the Toronto game. When Zach and Brady and the D are balling, we are the best team in the CFL. I want to see us hungry and aggressive. Foot to the throat.
23-21 Bombers
I think this game is so close, it comes down to turnovers, and the kicking game.
Final Injury reports are in.
https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/05/cfl-injury-reports-division-finals/ (https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/05/cfl-injury-reports-division-finals/)
Trevor Reid LT (Out)
Nichols or Ford get a pic 6 in this game. Jefferson gets 3 knockdowns.
Injuries, curious why Wilson didn't practice but not a good sign
The game is ours to lose.
Players need to start quick.
Fans need to be loud often and early.
MOS needs to do the MOS vibe.
All will be fine.
I think we destroy them.
Deadly coming off the bye.
Except for Schoen, we're basically near 100% on O (Emperor will do ok for Woli!).
I really think Buck et al are upping their prep and brain levels after the iffy WDF last year and the disappointing GC. Zach let slip in a presser that the O was integrating wholly new and alien concepts for this game. I think we finally get back to unexpected and creative wizardry to have & keep SSK reeling.
I really hope they go read my "we must be bold" thread from early 2024... Be bold and we win. Have belief we can destroy them doing what we want, don't let them dictate squat.
SSK are posers and got gifted a WSF win by a BC team in complete disarray on and off-field. They have one game-plan: the McAdoo Ripoff dink & dunk. If they step outside their comfort zone, Ford will eat them alive with INTs.
They are scared (and injured) enough to waste a DA on 2 IMP RBs. One or both won't finish the game. Their overall injury situation is as bad or worse than ours.
They may be up & coming, but they ain't there yet. Send them back down to stew in the depths for another year to come try again. I want to see another Mace post-game presser where he can't make eye contact with the camera...
Bombers by 15.
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Jaxon Ford and Trevor Reid have both been ruled OUT for the #Riders in the #CFL West Final.
Taylor Shire @Taylor_Shire
Left tackle Trevor Reid (knee) has been ruled out for Saturday's West final. He has started every game for the #Riders at that position this year.
Trevon Tate expected to start at LT with Logan Ferland at RT.
DB Jaxon Ford (knee) also ruled out.
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All we can do is cheer me on and hope for the best result.
Coupled with yet another Jets win Saturday is gonna be a sporting extravaganza of epic proportions.
As noted Zach and Brady need to bring there A game.
Willie needs his name on the stat sheet this week!
Good Sergio is among us.
Secondary plays the way we know they can play.
MOS does his thing on the sidelines.
Here We Go....
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 07, 2024, 10:36:24 PMNichols or Ford get a pic 6 in this game. Jefferson gets 3 knockdowns.
I remember when we would predict his sacks :)
Quote from: Blueforlife on November 07, 2024, 10:51:31 PMInjuries, curious why Wilson didn't practice but not a good sign
Even more curious is that the weekly practice report shows there was no practice on Thursday. That probably means that practice string post had the walk through reversed from today?
Zach is due for a big performance, I have a feeling were going to see that Saturday.
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This looks like Bridges, Woods and Cole are out. Alexander and Haba are back in. N. Taylor is in. K. Wilson is a GTD so that means if he's in then that explains why Cole is not shown?
Taylor in for Bridges gives us some veteran experience and he can play multiple roles. At worst he's a rotation player than can aid our secondary.
Can't say I expected Cole to be bumped off the AR. Also the changes on the DL surprised me as well.
Quote from: jayrock on November 08, 2024, 01:10:45 PMIf we are going to talk about gifts, how about the gift from mother nature the bombers go to secure the WF, no wind, and we would be seeing this game in Sask tomorrow. Talk about back dooring in to first place.
"It's official. God is a Bombers fan."
-Duane Forde
Riders still would have lost to the Stamps in week 21 :-*
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 08, 2024, 02:19:50 PMCan't say I expected Cole to be bumped off the AR.
Very unexpected.
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 08, 2024, 02:19:50 PMThis looks like Bridges, Woods and Cole are out. Alexander and Haba are back in. N. Taylor is in. K. Wilson is a GTD so that means if he's in then that explains why Cole is not shown?
Taylor in for Bridges gives us some veteran experience and he can play multiple roles. At worst he's a rotation player than can aid our secondary.
Can't say I expected Cole to be bumped off the AR. Also the changes on the DL surprised me as well.
Woods went down twice in the game last week, Haba receives one more chance to prove his worth. Taylor will probably come in on the double Safety plays alongside BA, a role Cole should have been able to adapt to as he's primarily a DB.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 08, 2024, 03:24:23 PMWoods went down twice in the game last week, Haba receives one more chance to prove his worth. Taylor will probably come in on the double Safety plays alongside BA, a role Cole should have been able to adapt to as he's primarily a DB.
I like what Taylor could bring to the defence but I expected it would be him or Alexander. This is not a complaint but disappointed we couldn't keep Cole on the AR. That's just a factor of the ratio compliance.
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 08, 2024, 04:08:06 PMI like what Taylor could bring to the defence but I expected it would be him or Alexander. This is not a complaint but disappointed we couldn't keep Cole on the AR. That's just a factor of the ratio compliance.
Agree, I think Cole would be more handy than Taylor in this situation, it doesn't show much confidence in Kelly or the Hallet boys to fill in when needed.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 08, 2024, 04:13:25 PMAgree, I think Cole would be more handy than Taylor in this situation, it doesn't show much confidence in Kelly or the Hallet boys to fill in when needed.
Harris is going to throw a lot of passes if the defence doesn't get him off the field. Bomber success on offence could achieve the same result
In that sense I wouldn't say Cole would be more handy than Taylor. It's a ratio issue. If Woli was healthy we could have bumped Wheatfall for example. He could have a good game making space for other receivers or getting some looks in the passing game. The preference would have been to drop a Canadian, probably one of the Halletts since we added Taylor and Alexander.
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 08, 2024, 04:22:00 PMHarris is going to throw a lot of passes if the defence doesn't get him off the field. Bomber success on offence could achieve the same result
In that sense I wouldn't say Cole would be more handy than Taylor. It's a ratio issue. If Woli was healthy we could have bumped Wheatfall for example. He could have a good game making space for other receivers or getting some looks in the passing game. The preference would have been to drop a Canadian, probably one of the Halletts since we added Taylor and Alexander.
I don't see your ratio angle, both Cole and Taylor are Imports, when the extra DB comes on it will coincide with Jake or Schmeck being on the field. Also Harris won't be throwing deep very often, relies on short and mid-range passes with plenty of YAC to move the ball downfield.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 08, 2024, 04:34:41 PMI don't see your ratio angle, both Cole and Taylor are Imports, when the extra DB comes on it will coincide with Jake or Schmeck being on the field.
That's not quite what I meant. We took Bridges (-1) off but added Taylor and Alexander (+2). In effect that forced removing an import elsewhere. That appears to have been Cole at the moment. So ratio issue on the roster not about the mix on the field.
We'll see several different defensive sets which include that double safety idea.
Note that Alexander is 2" shorter than Cole and 15 lbs lighter. He's been playing a lot close to LOS so he may take on what we might consider as Cole's LB role in a 34 formation with Taylor as the actual safety.
Having gone to that 9 man secondary and 3 man DL makes " title " as little less accurate if you know what I mean.
Personally, when I saw the proposed depth chart I was disappointed. Once again we are putting in vets that are barely healed. We've seen it over and over again with Wilson and previously Jeffcoat who say they are ready to go so OShea automatically inserts them only to watch at half time that they are no longer able to go.
I hope that this isn't the case with Alexander and Wilson this time around. (I wonder if Cole is hurt?)
At least it looks like they aren't willing to chance Woods making it thru the game.
I get Adams being sat out as well rather than Fox, recent games he just hasn't performed (1 tackle against mtrl) Haba needs to return to the form he showed early in the season.
With Wilson, Taylor all having so few games played, and Alexander still recovering defensively it makes me nervous.
Sask on the other hand is following argo example and dressing 8 dline 6 of which are imports so easy to see what their game plan will be.
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Quote from: Pete on November 08, 2024, 05:16:29 PMPersonally, when I saw the proposed depth chart I was disappointed. Once again we are putting in vets that are barely healed. We've seen it over and over again with Wilson and previously Jeffcoat who say they are ready to go so OShea automatically inserts them only to watch at half time that they are no longer able to go.
I hope that this isn't the case with Alexander and Wilson this time around. (I wonder if Cole is hurt?)
At least it looks like they aren't willing to chance Woods making it thru the game.
I get Adams being sat out as well rather than Fox, recent games he just hasn't performed (1 tackle against mtrl) Haba needs to return to the form he showed early in the season.
With Wilson, Taylor all having so few games played, and Alexander still recovering defensively it makes me nervous.
I see your concern but I think it's unfair to suggest we are putting in vets that are barely healed. That's a TBD to see how they performed.
Alexander had a hand injury and might be wearing a cast. That's not that unusual depending on what exactly was hurt and to what extent.
Wilson has missed a couple of months with a calf injury. That's normally sufficient time to heal. In his case the bigger question is game speed and conditioning.
Taylor was healthy to finish 2023 IIRC. Having a year off and back to the Bombers is a reasonable concern about game readiness but he's a veteran guy.
I don't know if we would have blinked if Woli practised this week and was added.
Brandon Alexander returns for Winnipeg Blue Bombers in West Final
By John Hodge -November 8, 2024
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers will have Brandon Alexander back in the starting lineup when they host the Saskatchewan Roughriders in the West Final.
The 31-year-old native of Orlando, Fla. has missed the past month due to a hand injury he suffered in the team's win over the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. He made 57 tackles and one forced fumble over 16 games this season before being replaced in the starting lineup by Jake Kelly. Alexander is one of the team's longest-tenured players, having made 268 defensive tackles, 20 special teams tackles, eight interceptions, and seven forced fumbles over 89 career CFL games since joining the Blue Bombers in 2017.
The club may also have Kyrie Wilson back as their starting weak-side linebacker, though he's been listed as a game-time decision. The 32-year-old native of Fresno, Calif. played only eight regular season games this year and has dressed just once since the end of July. He recorded 28 tackles and one sack this season, making seven starts at weak-side linebacker and one start at middle linebacker. In total, Wilson has made 161 defensive tackles, 15 special teams tackles, six sacks, one interception, and one forced fumble over 51 career CFL games.
Winnipeg has also made a change along the defensive line, moving defensive tackles Jamal Woods and Devin Adams to the one-game injured list. Miles Fox will start alongside Jake Thomas despite dressing for only three games during the regular season due to injury, making three defensive tackles.
The Blue Bombers will dress only six defensive linemen, which seems fitting based on head coach Mike O'Shea's comments following the Banjo Bowl in September. When asked about his team's lack of pressure on Trevor Harris, he credited the quarterback for getting rid of the ball quickly, joking that he sometimes wants his team's defence to rush only one defender on obvious passing downs. As such, expect Winnipeg to often drop nine defenders back in coverage on second-and-long.
Nick Taylor, who signed with the team last month, will dress in a depth role at boundary halfback. The 36-year-old won a Grey Cup as a member of the Blue Bombers in 2021 but hasn't played a game all year. He made 25 defensive tackles, one special teams tackles, one interception, and one forced fumble over 11 games with the Calgary Stampeders last season. O'Shea credited Taylor's speed and communication skills this week, so it wouldn't be a surprise if he came in as an extra defender on passing downs.
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers (11-7) will host the Saskatchewan Roughriders (10-8-1) for the West Final on Saturday, Nov. 9. Kickoff is slated for 6:30 p.m. EST and the game has already sold out.
https://3downnation.com/2024/11/08/brandon-alexander-returns-for-winnipeg-blue-bombers-in-west-final/
Riders lose left tackle Trevor Reid for West Final
By 3Down Staff -November 8, 2024
The Saskatchewan Roughriders will be a little weaker on Trevor Harris' blindside for the West Final.
Rookie American left tackle Trevor Reid will be unable to play on Saturday after a knee injury while being rolled up on. The Louisville product has started all 18 regular season games plus one postseason contest in his first season in the CFL.
Veteran American Trevon Tate, who was acquired mid-season after being released by the Calgary Stampeders, will bump across the line from right tackle to serve as the blindside protector. The West Division finalist for Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman, Logan Ferland, will move out to right tackle after playing centre last week and will be replaced by Peter Godber, who served as the sixth man in his return from injury last week. Former all-star guard Ryan Sceviour will dress as insurance.
The Riders will get a boost on the other side of the line of scrimmage, as veteran defensive tackle Anthony Lanier II is set to dress in a rotational role after sitting out the past few games as a healthy scratch. The 31-year-old has had a down year, recording just 10 defensive tackles, two sacks, and one forced fumble. However, the former NFLer has recorded 16 sacks in 42 career CFL games.
Rookie Canadian linebacker Melique Straker will return from a hip injury and can be expected to contribute on special teams after recording nine tackles in 10 games. Canadian defensive back Jaxon Ford (knee) has been placed on the one-game injured list, while running back Thomas Bertrand-Hudon has been moved to the practice roster.
The Saskatchewan Roughriders (10-8-1) will visit the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (11-7) for the Western Final on Saturday, November 9. Kickoff is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. EST at Princess Auto Stadium.
https://3downnation.com/2024/11/08/riders-lose-left-tackle-trevor-reid-for-west-final/
Cole was a force,made a lot of plays last few games. He is on the one game injured list.
Taylor has not played this season.
seems strange to me. No doubt a full elaboration is in store for is lol.
O'Shea is the George Allen of the CFL as far as using veteran players goes.
there is no barely healed at this time of year. You can either play or you can not. There is no next week when I feel better. MOS put the best player in.
Quote from: jayrock on November 08, 2024, 06:02:56 PMthere is no barely healed at this time of year. You can either play or you can not. There is no next week when I feel better. MOS put the best player in.
In this one aspect, MOS hasn't exactly earned the benefit of the doubt.
We all remember a hobbled Bighill and Schoen in the Cup last year, but even during this season, we have multiple examples of players starting in games after an absence (without practicing) and getting immediately injured again. Or being GTD with no replacement and playing a man short.
It's a fair question at this point.
Got to shake Harris up with plenty of heat coming thru the gaps. More blitzes needed while conversely our Oline will be besieged as is the Roughies style
Hustle and muscle boys and good luck
Quote from: Jockitch on November 08, 2024, 07:07:02 PMGot to shake Harris up with plenty of heat coming thru the gaps. More blitzes needed while conversely our Oline will be besieged as is the Roughies style
Hustle and muscle boys and good luck
Ahh yes, do the hustle! still bad even today although a big hit in the 70's!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFzMs2SN--s
anyone know who the ref is for our game?
Quote from: The Zipp on November 08, 2024, 11:49:55 PManyone know who the ref is for our game?
Tim Kroeker - referee
Adam Paradowski - umpire
Andrew Wakefield - down judge
Chris Shapka - line judge
Ryan Stark - side judge
David Kendall - back judge
Jason Maggio - field judge
Justin McInnes - backup ref
Mike Ciona - spare official
Murray Clarke - spare official
Dave Foxcroft - replay official
Massive amount of roster transactions on CFL.CA. Many players deleted outright from PR. Others from 1 game IR or AR moved to PR including Cole, Bridges, Woods, Samson and Adams.
OTOH, a couple moved from PR to 1 game IR. Woli moved from 6 game IR to 1 game IR.
Very confusing but I'd guess those moved to 1 game IR they want in TC and those deleted or moved to PR are in a TBD status.
Defensively We are set up to stop the pass.... offensively they are setting up to run the ball.
Armstead ran for nearly 200 yds against stampeders.
"The Saskatchewan Roughriders' newly-acquired running back, Ryquell Armstead, ran all over the Calgary Stampeders this past week, recording 25 carries for 207 yards.
The frequency with which Calgary used three-man fronts early on seems to indicate they didn't expect Saskatchewan to come at them on the ground. The Roughriders routinely drove Calgary's defensive line off the ball with double-teams and effectively reached the next level. By my tracking, Armstead logged 100 yards before contact.
The frequency with which Calgary used three-man fronts early on seems to indicate they didn't expect Saskatchewan to come at them on the ground. The Roughriders routinely drove Calgary's defensive line off the ball with double-teams and effectively reached the next level"
3downnation https://3downnation.com/2024/09/25/one-and-done-why-ryquell-armstead-wont-have-another-200-yard-performance-with-the-saskatchewan-roughriders/
By Ben Grant - September 25, 2024
good article. "three man front"
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 08, 2024, 04:08:06 PMI like what Taylor could bring to the defence but I expected it would be him or Alexander. This is not a complaint but disappointed we couldn't keep Cole on the AR. That's just a factor of the ratio compliance.
But aren't we starting 8 Cdns and only need 7?
Quote from: Stats Junkie on November 09, 2024, 12:00:33 AMTim Kroeker - referee
Adam Paradowski - umpire
Andrew Wakefield - down judge
Chris Shapka - line judge
Ryan Stark - side judge
David Kendall - back judge
Jason Maggio - field judge
Justin McInnes - backup ref
Mike Ciona - spare official
Murray Clarke - spare official
Dave Foxcroft - replay official
thanks - pretty good crew, who is doing the east final?
Quote from: ichabod_crane on November 08, 2024, 10:41:25 PMAhh yes, do the hustle! still bad even today although a big hit in the 70's!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFzMs2SN--s
Ha ha ha ha ... had so much fun with the pretty girls during the 70's nightclub scene in the 'Peg. Great post! Good memories!
Quote from: ModAdmin on November 07, 2024, 07:48:02 PMMore on the game as information becomes available. In the meantime, let's go Bombers!!!
Look at O'Shea's eyes! Oh man, is he ever dialed in. I bet he wants to put on the pads and get out on that field and hit a few Riders himself.
Quote from: markf on November 09, 2024, 01:36:35 AMDefensively We are set up to stop the pass.... offensively they are setting up to run the ball.
Armstead ran for nearly 200 yds against stampeders.
You're the first person to really point this out. SSK is going to try to run for 200+ against us, mark my words. They are going to be run-mostly. Run on first, run on second. Run run run. Probably Armstead on 1st, Ouellette on short/mid.
When they don't run it'll be play action / RPO and the ol' 7Y curl and slant, or the wide out last-read.
They will do this until we stuff them enough. And by stuff I mean make sure they don't get in the EZ. We'll probably give up a lot of FGs.
I trust Younger/Hall to have a plan to contain the run, because they must know all of the above. They'll still rush 3 on 2nd down, but we need to have guys who keep those RBs to around 5Y, not 20.
SSK will get a lot of good runs. I expect 2 20Y+, 5 10Y, etc. But we'll also stuff them for 1-3 some times on 1st.
If we hold them to 125Y combined run yards from the RBs, I'd call that success and we'll probably win. Over 200Y and our O will have to produce similarly.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on November 09, 2024, 12:00:33 AMTim Kroeker - referee
As long as that #22 bleepitybleep isn't line-judging our game, I'm happy. Kroeker is one of the better ones.
Quote from: markf on November 08, 2024, 05:43:50 PMCole was a force,made a lot of plays last few games. He is on the one game injured list.
Is Cole dinged up?
This whole chart & GTD thing for Kyrie might be a ruse. If Cole was good, why do you roster Ayers instead of Cole? What does make sense is if you are 80% sure Kyrie won't play, you fool SSK by keeping Cole off the chart and then subbing him in at the last moment. That's my guess.
Quote from: Pete on November 08, 2024, 05:16:29 PMI hope that this isn't the case with Alexander and Wilson this time around. (I wonder if Cole is hurt?)
The good thing about "hand" is no matter how badly it gets beat up, you can just shoot him up with more pain killers and tape it up and throw him back out there. Besides "pain" it shouldn't impact his game much.
I'd be more worried about Kyrie re-aggravating his issue.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 08, 2024, 04:13:25 PMAgree, I think Cole would be more handy than Taylor in this situation, it doesn't show much confidence in Kelly or the Hallet boys to fill in when needed.
I think 1 or 2 of those guys will be on the outs in FA. Nick is the only definite keeper. Has Noah done anything at all since returning?
None of these guys is the next Dequoy.
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 08, 2024, 02:19:50 PMCan't say I expected Cole to be bumped off the AR. Also the changes on the DL surprised me as well.
Nah, we're going all in on the sacks-be-darned concept. We're not even going to try. If we get lucky against their patchwork OL, great. If not, doesn't matter.
Unless of course we have some tricks up our sleeve and we go mega-blitz in a mega way... but I won't hold my breath on that one.
SSK's chart clearly shows they are copying the TOR 8 DL (6 IMP) approach to beating the Bombers. I guarantee you Buck/MOS have been working on concepts to counter it. We can't just do nothing and eat sacks like we did vs TOR. Zach is likely to not survive vs "I can't control my body!" Brown.
Sweeps & edge runs can help here. Draw screens, quick passes, FB dumps, and thrown-to-spot mid/deep routes in 1-on-1s can too. We could and should and will use a ton of jumbo, with lots of 6 and 7 (and 8!) OL/TE/FB sets.
We can't let them dictate the pace of our throws.
I'm not sure we even try with our up-the-gut Brady game. If SSK wants to take it away, then let them waste the resources and use the openings elsewhere to get our yards.
If SSK starts to back away from protecting the run, then we can change our tune. But why start the game running into a brick wall and waste downs?
I would rather see draw runs on 2nd down, and some creative screens or dump passes.
Remember that one CGY GC year when Cornish said post-game that the plan the whole time was to use him solely as a decoy? Ya, let's copy that. CGY won it all that year. Brady makes a very good decoy because the entire SSK D will be keying on him.
The key to beating SSK is a good mix in the mid & deep games. Attack Fields and Henderson. Get Sayles to IC you. Look off Milligan so he doesn't cheat on routes. They will give up many explosions in the air.
Re watched Banjo Bowl. On O we had a lot of check down Charlie tosses to Brady because that's what they gave us in the first half. I kept thinking what if someone like Whitehead was our safety valve. With his speed a 2-5 yard pass could turn into a lot of YAC?
Hoping Buck is creative and has an answer for Sasks D...
Quote from: Zach Schnitzer on November 09, 2024, 01:57:25 AMBut aren't we starting 8 Cdns and only need 7?
3 OL, 2 receivers, 1 RB, 1 SAM, 1 DT and 1 CB = 9 at the moment
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 09, 2024, 07:24:00 AMIs Cole dinged up?
This whole chart & GTD thing for Kyrie might be a ruse. If Cole was good, why do you roster Ayers instead of Cole? What does make sense is if you are 80% sure Kyrie won't play, you fool SSK by keeping Cole off the chart and then subbing him in at the last moment. That's my guess.
The transactions show him moved to the PR and not the IR. However, the roster doesn't match all the transaction activity yesterday.
I don't believe a ruse has any place / credibility in what the Bombers are doing. Cole has played well but he's not the key player the Riders will game plan against. They finished their practice before we even showed him off the roster and Wilson back on. To that end, they planned for him playing already whether that happens or not.
I'm going to suggest a couple things we might see today in an attempt to look smart later:
One - Brady under 7 carries on the ground (under 60 rushing on the day).
Two - Oliveria/Chris-Ike split backfield at a way higher percentage than we're used to. Chris-Ike doesn't have a reception this year but I think he gets THREE today. He's ready.
Three - three man rush all day with a spy linebacker on the running back. If the backer reads pass he blitzes immediately through A or B gap.
Four - all pressure comes up the middle today when we do run it.
Five - Collaros is going to air it out today completely reversing past playoff trends. The weather is nice and the match up screams deep balls. 300 yards for Collaros through the air is likely if we win. Zach need to earn his money today. He can throw one pick if he throws three TDs.
Six - Were going (to try) to unleash our defensive ends. If they read pass, get to the spot. Harris can't run outside and he's probably even slower than Zach. Screw contain make the play and get off the field.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 09, 2024, 07:25:29 AMThe good thing about "hand" is no matter how badly it gets beat up, you can just shoot him up with more pain killers and tape it up and throw him back out there. Besides "pain" it shouldn't impact his game much.
I'd be more worried about Kyrie re-aggravating his issue.
It's not just about the pain level. It may impact his ability to tackle, knockdown a pass or make an int. We didn't get details on whether it was a deep bruise, large cut or something broken.
Alexander may be wearing a cast or just extra tapping. I don't know so that's something to watch.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 09, 2024, 01:11:02 PMI'm going to suggest a couple things we might see today in an attempt to look smart later:
One - Brady under 7 carries on the ground (under 60 rushing on the day).
Two - Oliveria/Chris-Ike split backfield at a way higher percentage than we're used to. Chris-Ike doesn't have a reception this year but I think he gets THREE today. He's ready.
Three - three man rush all day with a spy linebacker on the running back. If the backer reads pass he blitzes immediately through A or B gap.
Four - all pressure comes up the middle today when we do run it.
Five - Collaros is going to air it out today completely reversing past playoff trends. The weather is nice and the match up screams deep balls. 300 yards for Collaros through the air is likely if we win. Zach need to earn his money today. He can throw one pick if he throws three TDs.
I am concerned that if we can't have some sort of balance in our attack it could be a long day. Oliveria needs to be a force and the Riders are going to try and take that away. That's how teams have beaten us in the past.
I agree we'll see more mid and deep balls to stretch their defence with speed. It might force them off the LOS. It's complimentary football, if the run succeeds it will open up the pass and vice versa.
The key either way is for our OL to play well and keep Collaros upright with some time.
Taking out Woods, Adams and Cole won't make stopping their run game easier. Maybe Ayers has a bigger role on defence this week.
I think I already mentioned that Alexander is about the same size as Cole and we may see him in the box more with Taylor back at safety.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 09, 2024, 07:33:10 AMSSK's chart clearly shows they are copying the TOR 8 DL (6 IMP) approach to beating the Bombers. I guarantee you Buck/MOS have been working on concepts to counter it. We can't just do nothing and eat sacks like we did vs TOR. Zach is likely to not survive vs "I can't control my body!" Brown.
Sweeps & edge runs can help here. Draw screens, quick passes, FB dumps, and thrown-to-spot mid/deep routes in 1-on-1s can too. We could and should and will use a ton of jumbo, with lots of 6 and 7 (and 8!) OL/TE/FB sets.
We can't let them dictate the pace of our throws.
We've been eating sacks from that Toronto line for the past 3 years. I don't have any expectations that we'll "solve" it, but hopefully we can gut out way through it and not make the egregious mistakes that are sometimes our undoing.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 09, 2024, 01:11:02 PMI'm going to suggest a couple things we might see today in an attempt to look smart later:
One - Brady under 7 carries on the ground (under 60 rushing on the day).
Two - Oliveria/Chris-Ike split backfield at a way higher percentage than we're used to. Chris-Ike doesn't have a reception this year but I think he gets THREE today. He's ready.
Three - three man rush all day with a spy linebacker on the running back. If the backer reads pass he blitzes immediately through A or B gap.
Four - all pressure comes up the middle today when we do run it.
Five - Collaros is going to air it out today completely reversing past playoff trends. The weather is nice and the match up screams deep balls. 300 yards for Collaros through the air is likely if we win. Zach need to earn his money today. He can throw one pick if he throws three TDs.
Six - Were going (to try) to unleash our defensive ends. If they read pass, get to the spot. Harris can't run outside and he's probably even slower than Zach. Screw contain make the play and get off the field.
A couple comments:
Nothing bugs me more than when we use a 3-man front and then blitz a LB. Not sure if I've ever seen that work. Anecdotally, it feels like your just intentionally matching a guy half the size of the OL. Just run a 4 man front.
The 3 man you suggested seems to go against your other comment of unleashing our ends.
Quote from: Jesse on November 09, 2024, 02:20:10 PMA couple comments:
Nothing bugs me more than when we use a 3-man front and then blitz a LB. Not sure if I've ever seen that work. Anecdotally, it feels like your just intentionally matching a guy half the size of the OL. Just run a 4 man front.
The 3 man you suggested seems to go against your other comment of unleashing our ends.
It will likely work today when Ouelette is in there because he's not very scary as a pass catcher and doesn't have top end speed. If we're playing a zone behind it we'll be fine. Obviously it's problematic in man schemes and we won't do it there.
You're right that the ends are more aggressive in four man but realistically who is going to scare us if we lose contain? Not Harris. Not Ouelette.
We need A and B gap pressure to beat Harris. We haven't had any luck getting pressure against with our lineman for most of the year. A linebacker on Harris is game over. He's making no one miss.
Who knows what we'll see but that's my prediction.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 09, 2024, 07:38:33 AMI'm not sure we even try with our up-the-gut Brady game. If SSK wants to take it away, then let them waste the resources and use the openings elsewhere to get our yards.
If SSK starts to back away from protecting the run, then we can change our tune. But why start the game running into a brick wall and waste downs?
I would rather see draw runs on 2nd down, and some creative screens or dump passes.
Remember that one CGY GC year when Cornish said post-game that the plan the whole time was to use him solely as a decoy? Ya, let's copy that. CGY won it all that year. Brady makes a very good decoy because the entire SSK D will be keying on him.
The key to beating SSK is a good mix in the mid & deep games. Attack Fields and Henderson. Get Sayles to IC you. Look off Milligan so he doesn't cheat on routes. They will give up many explosions in the air.
Great analysis. I completely agree. Short to medium range passes to open up the Sask run-stopping box, then run Brady to ice the game. I'm worried about their run game though against our paltry D-line
I hope we do what mtrl does, have 3 lbs look like they are blitzing and drop 2 back at the snap. Keep harris guessing and unable to change play due to crowd noise
any scripts for Bombers first drive on O?
1.Brady up the gut
2.40 yd pass to well covered Lawler amazing catch.
3. touchdown pass Demski across the middle !!!
Don't laugh it has happened before..😀
Bombers made a lot of interesting moves yesterday, could indicate the direction they're moving on specific players. Hope to heck they're not moving on from Woods and Adams as they made a positive impact in their first year. It would also be quite strange for them to give up so quickly on 3 Natl. rookies they drafted recently in Samson, Charbonneau and Hubert, must be some smoke and mirrors in effect.
https://www.cfl.ca/transactions
Jamal Wood PR
Myron Mitchell 1 Game
Brian Cole PR
Vanterpol 1 game
Owen Hubert FA
Max Charbonneau FA
Devin Adams PR
Kyle Samson PR
Jamal Parker 6 game
Adam Bighill 6 game
Tyrique Mcghee FA
Jason Person 1 game
Cam lawson 6 game
Bryce Notree FA
Drew Wolitarsky 6 game
I think both teams come out doing what got them to this game--the BB will use the run game to setup the play action passing game, and the Riders will use the dink and dunk passing game to setup the run. Decent day weather wise, team that makes fewest mistakes/turnovers wins
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 09, 2024, 04:33:00 PMBombers made a lot of interesting moves yesterday, could indicate the direction they're moving on specific players. Hope to heck they're not moving on from Woods and Adams as they made a positive impact in their first year. It would also be quite strange for them to give up so quickly on 3 Natl. rookies they drafted last year in Samson, Charbonneau and Hubert, must be some smoke and mirrors in effect.
https://www.cfl.ca/transactions
Jamal Wood PR
Myron Mitchell 1 Game
Brian Cole PR
Vanterpol 1 game
Owen Hubert FA
Max Charbonneau FA
Devin Adams PR
Kyle Samson PR
Jamal Parker 6 game
Adam Bighill 6 game
Tyrique Mcghee FA
Jason Person 1 game
Cam lawson 6 game
Bryce Notree FA
Drew Wolitarsky 6 game
A few others:
Woli was moved to 1 game IR not 6 game. I'm not sure if that means he can practice and might be available for GC if we win?
Randolph was moved to PR after being moved to 1 game IR last week. I thought they did that to retain him.
Adams was also moved to PR
It's possible PR players can be re-signed later but the fact the team put them on the PR instead of 1 game IR is interesting: Woods, Cole and Adams
OTOH we move Mitchell to 1 game IR and leave Smith on the PR??
I'm under the impression that everybody on the IR is now SMS exempt. Operational cost but not SMS cost. So why move players off IR unless it's curtains for them when the season is done next week?
Good point on releasing recent draft choices.
MOS likes his Canadians but what you gonna do with a guy Ford.
They'll go after Bonds and maybe Holm and see what will happen. If I were there OC this is what I focus on.
I hope Younger has a few surprises up his sleeve.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 09, 2024, 04:50:48 PMMOS likes his Canadians but what you gonna do with a guy Ford.
They'll go after Bonds and maybe Holm and see what will happen. If I were there OC this is what I focus on.
I hope Younger has a few surprises up his sleeve.
Ford's ELC deal is done, no idea what he's going to do but wouldn't be surprised if he tested free agency to see what kind of pay day he could generate.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 09, 2024, 03:23:33 AMthanks - pretty good crew, who is doing the east final?
Reply in Toronto - Montreal thread
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 09, 2024, 01:19:59 PMI am concerned that if we can't have some sort of balance in our attack it could be a long day. Oliveria needs to be a force and the Riders are going to try and take that away. That's how teams have beaten us in the past.
I agree we'll see more mid and deep balls to stretch their defence with speed. It might force them off the LOS. It's complimentary football, if the run succeeds it will open up the pass and vice versa.
The key either way is for our OL to play well and keep Collaros upright with some time.
Taking out Woods, Adams and Cole won't make stopping their run game easier. Maybe Ayers has a bigger role on defence this week.
I think I already mentioned that Alexander is about the same size as Cole and we may see him in the box more with Taylor back at safety.
I agree...Taylor and Kelly in two deep safety look with BA in the box.
The Bombers will need to up their game a few notches from their last two (which were quasi-playoff games) if they want to win. I think they have it in them. We shall see.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on November 09, 2024, 05:23:01 PMReply in Toronto - Montreal thread
thanks. does that mean Proulx gets the grey cup?
Quote from: Zach Schnitzer on November 09, 2024, 02:41:25 PMGreat analysis. I completely agree. Short to medium range passes to open up the Sask run-stopping box, then run Brady to ice the game. I'm worried about their run game though against our paltry D-line
that D line is troublesome. prove me wrong guys but it looks pretty paltry on paper
Quote from: The Zipp on November 09, 2024, 06:03:12 PMthanks. does that mean Proulx gets the grey cup?
Interesting that he's not involved in either of today's games.
As always the Bombers will try to control the clock. Hopefully they get up to 35 minutes in TOP.
Quote from: The Zipp on November 09, 2024, 06:06:59 PMthat D line is troublesome. prove me wrong guys but it looks pretty paltry on paper
Been weak all year and hence the 3 man rush much to many's dismay. Personally I think it's a good strategy against the T-Hare dink dunk. If we had majorly talented DTs and someone opposite Willie it would be different but it's the reality. Our talent is loaded towards the back and that's fine.
ALL WEEK I HAVE BEEN APPREHENSIVE, BUT, TODAY I WOKE UP FEELING AT EASE AND VERY CONFIDENT THE BOMBERS WILL WIN BABY!!!
happy for you Horesman - my tummy is still nervous.
disappointing uniform choice by the Bombers - not fan of the blue w/ blue
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 09, 2024, 04:48:37 PMA few others:
Woli was moved to 1 game IR not 6 game. I'm not sure if that means he can practice and might be available for GC if we win?
Randolph was moved to PR after being moved to 1 game IR last week. I thought they did that to retain him.
Adams was also moved to PR
It's possible PR players can be re-signed later but the fact the team put them on the PR instead of 1 game IR is interesting: Woods, Cole and Adams
OTOH we move Mitchell to 1 game IR and leave Smith on the PR??
I'm under the impression that everybody on the IR is now SMS exempt. Operational cost but not SMS cost. So why move players off IR unless it's curtains for them when the season is done next week?
Good point on releasing recent draft choices.
Didn't some of you have this big whole discussion where there is no 6 game at this point of the season?
Regardless, I hope we don't see Woli again. He is another example of a guy who's already been forced back too soon and was immediately injured again. No interest in seeing that happen in the Grey Cup.
This is going to be the game of the year!! Can't wait
settled into a table and niccolinos - jets game on, eastern final on...caesar's arrived. it's a great saturday in winnipeg
if it wasnt for mother nature, the bombers would have been playing in sask today...they have to play play a lot better to beats sask
Quote from: Jesse on November 09, 2024, 07:12:38 PMDidn't some of you have this big whole discussion where there is no 6 game at this point of the season?
Regardless, I hope we don't see Woli again. He is another example of a guy who's already been forced back too soon and was immediately injured again. No interest in seeing that happen in the Grey Cup.
You can't add a player to 6 game IR now but he was already on the 6 game IR. Streveler was just extended on 6 game IR while Woli was moved to 1 game IR from 6 game IR.
You can't really say he might be forced back too soon. He hasn't played since 09/07 and has missed 8 games + the WDF. His injury was hip related so can't really determine whether that was season ending or what.
Quote from: bomb squad on November 09, 2024, 05:41:52 PMThe Bombers will need to up their game a few notches from their last two (which were quasi-playoff games) if they want to win. I think they have it in them. We shall see.
I agree - Unfortunately I will not be able to watch the game here in Calgary but taping the game (both games). At the airport now just waiting for my flight to Houston then off to South America for work. Back in time for the Grey Cup.
I will try and catch the score on my layover in Houston. Hope for the best but to win this one will take an effort that I am not sure the Bomber have in them. I just think we are short on talent in too many critical areas- but just my humble opinion.
Quote from: BBRT on November 09, 2024, 08:38:15 PMI agree - Unfortunately I will not be able to watch the game here in Calgary but taping the game (both games). At the airport now just waiting for my flight to Houston then off to South America for work. Back in time for the Grey Cup.
I will try and catch the score on my layover in Houston. Hope for the best but to win this one will take an effort that I am not sure the Bomber have in them. I just think we are short on talent in too many critical areas- but just my humble opinion.
have a safe trip - hopefully the Bombers can pull off a win despite a shortage of talent in some areas.
Man grant gives them instant field position!
In Maui streaming ball. Surfed this AM. Life is as good as it gets. O wait it would be better if Oilers didn't suck and it would snow so I can sled when I return lol.
Scared. Riders run the ball down our throat. Three man front is suicidal against. Riders power run attack. Hope we got some surprises. And you are right. That would relegate Harris to dink and. Dunk.
Here we go.
Quote from: DM83 on November 09, 2024, 10:20:16 PMScared. Riders run the ball down our throat. Three man front is suicidal against. Riders power run attack. Hope we got some surprises. And you are right. That would relegate Harris to dink and. Dunk.
Here we go.
Three man front won us 2 out 3. It works.
Run d critical.
BA on the sidelines - nick taylor at safety
3 man front will shut down the dink and dunk. Oulette isn't going to hurt us running the ball as much as Harris will passing it. You have to give up something and I'd rather watch a slow Oulette get beat up by Jones and company than Harris throwing 8 yard out patterns all game
Lawler not the same they cried
Lawler too much money they claimed
One of the best players on the field and worth every penny
Great start. Everyone dialed in. Looking good!
radio said Miles Brown hit Zach late on td pass.
It did look late.
Lawler worth 2x, edit 3x
MO money no problem
Lock this guy for life
TD #2 for Lawler! Wow!
Kenny is single handedly breaking the riders backs!! A man amongst boys
Quote from: dd on November 09, 2024, 11:05:07 PMKenny is single handedly breaking the riders backs!! A man amongst boys
Best receiver in the land
😀
amongst other things....
O line came to play.
That's the difference, Collaros has time to make the plays and is making them
special teams not looking good.
big returns and now a blocked punt
Quote from: The Zipp on November 09, 2024, 11:16:12 PMspecial teams not looking good.
big returns and now a blocked punt
Our ST are great, none issue handled internally
But yes bad start, punting will be strong, time to clean things up
That intentional grounding call hurt us there.
TERRY WILSON!!!
Quote from: markf on November 09, 2024, 10:56:54 PMradio said Miles Brown hit Zach late on td pass.
Ed Tait mentioned it live. Both Ed and DT commented after watching the replay that it didn't look that bad.
Haba tackled no call
Riders aren't going to complete many passes vs holm, excellent knockdown!!
come on buck - up the middle is stopped
great first half
not over though
gamble on 3rd and 1 was kinda pointless
Quote from: The Zipp on November 09, 2024, 11:52:21 PMgamble on 3rd and 1 was kinda pointless
I left the half so disappointed because of that, lol. I thought going for it in third meant they would take a shot to the end zone.
All it did was risk losing the 3 points.
Quote from: Jesse on November 09, 2024, 11:59:06 PMI left the half so disappointed because of that, lol. I thought going for it in third meant they would take a shot to the end zone.
All it did was risk losing the 3 points.
yah. i think if there were two more seconds on the clock they may have taken a shot
puzzling why they risked it
Quote from: The Zipp on November 09, 2024, 11:16:12 PMspecial teams not looking good.
big returns and now a blocked punt
They have been our weakness all year, our punter takes too long to get the punt off
augh, a fake punt against our ST unit...
again - special teams not great - gauthier bit
soft d with a 3 man rush and they convert
come on guys don't let them back in
kramdi down for a bit
wake up guys
worst start possible coming out of the half
and now a 2 and out
curious play call by sask on 2 and 2
i will take it
Here comes the Rider dirt as they try to mess with Brady on the ground after the play. Officials have to be aware of these shenanigans and put a stop to it.
kenny legacy game
WOOO HOOO! Lawler #3!
How do the riders let Lawler get so wide open, thank you !!
clipping on sask.
kramdi ok good to see
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 12:35:31 AMHow do the riders let Lawler get so wide open, thank you !!
I wonder if that was an audible by Collaros. They pointed out on tv that there were only 2 d backs deep.
Kenny worth 4x
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 12:35:31 AMHow do the riders let Lawler get so wide open, thank you !!
Because he is the best in the land and all our receivers are good
Buck is gold
Nice time to be a Bomber fan
We are killing it
brady in punishment mode
Brady in BEAST mode.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on November 03, 2024, 06:27:19 PMOuelette IF FULLY HEALTHY is my one worry as our DL is not great this season. By the time a LB comes up to face him he is already a raging bull in a China shop. Now supposedly knicked in the WSF, but how badly I do not know.
Anyway the Bombers should go bombs away early and get a 2 td lead mixing in some bully ball. Then Sask has to forget the dink and dunk game and then THEY ARE THE ONES desperate and not playing their usual O game.
Just call me Kreskin!! :D
Oulette has their td, but mostly quiet otherwise.
even a FG goes a long way on this drive
This team ... just love them.
Riders are still doing the dink and dunk just not completing the short passes. We have double the offensive yardage
Ball control and security paramount.
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Jump on the Cryders early and get a 2 td lead. The longer the Bombers keep that lead, the more the stubble jumpers will be forced to exit the dink and dunk game...then we have them in our rifle scope where we want them! Try a few blitzes UP THE MIDDLE on D when they are in second and long just to rattle Harris's cage. Is that not his Achille's heel? Get pressure on him and he has caved for many years already. MANY players have made this comment over the years about him. He can't run so he either tosses it away or tries a risky longer pass which out ball hawks can either knock down or pick.
Bombers shut them down all regular season, so don't need to change much yet need a few wrinkles as Sask O will certainly come up with a few wrinkles themselves. Their bowling pin RB scares me a bit, but if knicked that makes him less a thread. I HAVE SAID all year the Blue needed a BIG BULL DL to plug the hole Stove once covered.
As colour man Jack Gotta said after the 1984 Western Final in BC....IT WAS A HAMMER JOB BY THE BOMBERS!!! Lay the lumber down lads....no holding back now! ;)
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I know it's not over yet, but my KRESKIN impersonation is looking spookily correct right now! ;) :D Oulette has their td, but not doing much otherwise. Riders receivers hearing footsteps too...dropping several balls in traffic.
Keep it up lads. You got an Argos team with one arm tied behind them now with Kelly out.....so it's all ripe for the picking BLUE!! Pedal to the metal rest of the way.
Good job by all securing the ball.
sask holding on punt return
I have been saying it for 5 to 7 years plus and many have challenged me
Never more true than now
#1d plus Hall is boss Younger has the hunger
Patience paid off
Sign Ford now blank cheque
Kramdi continues to serve wings lol
wierd decision by Mace.going for it.. cfl ...lots of time left. now they are screwed.
surprised sask gambled there
oh well
that should do it!!!
Brady on his way to an all time great
Can you say dddddynasy ladies and gents
Best in the land
We will eat the Argos alive
Oulette goes nowhere on his run up the middle
Quote from: The Zipp on November 10, 2024, 12:56:49 AMsurprised sask gambled there
oh well
It was stupid, there was 12 minutes left, punt the ball away and hope you get a stop or a turnover. Not converting on 3rd down on your own 24, you're automatically given up 3 points and as it turned out a TD, game over. Dumb dumb call
Wow. Bombers are playing their best football at the perfect time!! ;D
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 01:01:10 AMOulette goes nowhere on his run up the middle
Our DL is great and our LBs are deep
So many ragging on the DL early and all they do is eat
Ayers eats on ST
Quote from: Blitzer on November 10, 2024, 01:02:51 AMWow. Bombers are playing their best football at the perfect time!! ;D
Peak of the market lol
Where is Jayrock, I thought the green guys were going to take us down :P
Holm mmmmmoney
Don't know why they're throwing vs holm, all game he's done nothing but knock down passes. Here's a hint riders, go after Bonds!!
special teams - baaaaad today
calling it as i see it
Lucky! Buddy!
Kramdi #1d
Will be a top LB next year
Quote from: The Zipp on November 10, 2024, 01:09:24 AMspecial teams - baaaaad today
calling it as i see it
Couple bad plays many good ones
Over stated on negative
no reason to not have augustine in there
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 01:06:44 AMDon't know why they're throwing vs holm, all game he's done nothing but knock down passes. Here's a hint riders, go after Bonds!!
Can't touch him!
This team. LMAO!
Quote from: The Zipp on November 10, 2024, 01:13:54 AMno reason to not have augustine in there
I would pull Zach too but will never happen
No more throws please
Riders suck
Wow special teams gives up the fumble and the defense makes the stop!!! Evan Holmes is on fire!!
Quote from: Tehedra on November 10, 2024, 01:16:14 AMWow special teams gives up the fumble and the defense makes the stop!!! Evan Holmes is on fire!!
Can't touch us
Jayrock are we still not ad dominant as in the past
I would say as good as ever and we missing two weapons
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 01:06:44 AMDon't know why they're throwing vs holm, all game he's done nothing but knock down passes. Here's a hint riders, go after Bonds!!
bonds made some good plays.
but yes strange to pick on Holm. heard kramdi name a lot too.
What a game by Kramdi!
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 01:23:53 AMbonds made some good plays.
but yes strange to pick on Holm. heard kramdi name a lot too.
No weak pt in our backfield
Kramdi has improved so much in coverage
hey Jayrock - we won the west !!
0-4.
2-6.
10-1.
11-7 and a Grey Cup berth.
they say its not how u start but how u finish....bombers were 0 and 4 to start and now on the way to the cup final
Quote from: DCM on November 10, 2024, 01:31:51 AM0-4.
2-6.
10-1.
11-7 and a Grey Cup berth.
I can't say I'm surprised. It's a long season. The playoffs is the only thing that matters.
Collaros improves to 33-5 at home.
onside kick with 22 seconds left is not great.
Personally was hoping for a revenge match against Montreal but a GC berth is a GC berth. Handle your own in a week and that's three in five years.
And yes, I fully believe if they win, Collaros rides off into the sunset.
Best game I've seen in a long time. Let's keep up that intensity next week
Quote from: Blitzer on November 10, 2024, 01:35:55 AMI can't say I'm surprised. It's a long season. The playoffs is the only thing that matters.
I'm surprised. I thought Riders would be a very tough opponent.
Quote from: DCM on November 10, 2024, 01:37:30 AMPersonally was hoping for a revenge match against Montreal but a GC berth is a GC berth. Handle your own in a week and that's three in five years.
And yes, I fully believe if they win, Collaros rides off into the sunset.
Doesn't he have a quarter mill in guaranteed cash next year
Dominant game on all facets of the team.
K. Wilson and B. Alexander seemed invisible. I say that in a good way. Wilson recorded no stats and Alexander had 1 DT. Realistically the defence only gave up 16 points before garbage time.
Great game by Collaros, Lawler and Oliveria in particular. Kramdi and Holm on defence were spectacular!!!!
Quote from: Blueforlife on November 09, 2024, 10:55:15 PMLawler not the same they cried
Lawler too much money they claimed
One of the best players on the field and worth every penny
He owned the Riders tonight.
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 01:37:59 AMI'm surprised. I thought Riders would be a very tough opponent.
I'm surprised by today's score, for sure, but not surprised that they're in the Grey Cup again. They have a great great team. They're the favorite now to win it all again. Wow. Amazing. With all the injuries. Wow.
Finally a game that didn't stop my heart. Led from start to finish and it was never in doubt.
Smart football. Few penalties or mistakes and our OL kept our offence moving winning score, field position and TOP.
Noah Hallett got nicked but he was the only one that didn't return as far as I noticed. That's a bonus.
The difference in the game was our secondary, specifically Ford and Holm on the short side of the field....the dink and dunk was totally shut down by knock downs and our secondary making a play on the ball vs watch Harris play pitch and catch vs a weak secondary. Our secondary is by far the best in the league, by far.
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 01:52:55 AMThe difference in the game was our secondary, specifically Ford and Holm on the short side of the field....the dink and dunk was totally shut down by knock downs and our secondary making a play on the ball vs watch Harris play pitch and catch vs a weak secondary. Our secondary is by far the best in the league, by far.
I'll have to re-watch the game. I didn't get the impression they tried to beat Ford very often. He's solid and we need to re-sign him.
Lotsa love to Jordan Younger, Buck Pierce, Mike Miller, and Mike O'Shea. You guys did a phenomenal job getting this team ready for this game. Outstanding!
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 10, 2024, 01:51:48 AMFinally a game that didn't stop my heart. Led from start to finish and it was never in doubt.
Yes!! I agree! I wasn't shaking at all during this game.
Quote from: DCM on November 10, 2024, 01:37:30 AMPersonally was hoping for a revenge match against Montreal but a GC berth is a GC berth. Handle your own in a week and that's three in five years.
And yes, I fully believe if they win, Collaros rides off into the sunset.
Bombers also have revenge factor for Argos as well from two years ago. PLUS as a franchise they HAVE NEVER BEATEN TORONTO in the Grey Cup if I recall correctly! Time to break all those maddening streaks next weekend! :)
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 10, 2024, 01:55:15 AMI'll have to re-watch the game. I didn't get the impression they tried to beat Ford very often. He's solid and we need to re-sign him.
That's just it, they didn't even try to throw to fords guy. They were always throwing to Holmes guy and he just outplayed them. Harris lives by the short pass, especially to the short side of the field. Bombers have ford and holm playing there, that ain't gonna happen, and that was the difference tonight.
Quote from: J5V on November 10, 2024, 01:57:27 AMLotsa love to Jordan Younger, Buck Pierce, Mike Miller, and Mike O'Shea. You guys did a phenomenal job getting this team ready for this game. Outstanding!
agree.
They completely outcoached the other side. demolition. sometimes I wonder what they are doing. lol.
the shifting Bomber defence was a complete puzzle to the Riders.
and the players were ready for this game.
I Think Zach was sacked once.
Our special teams gave up a blocked punt as well as got had on a fake punt. Hopefully this motivates them to step it up as Torontos ST is a threat to keep them in the game by scoring and we're going to have our hands full stopping Grant
Kudos to the protection throughout the game
Definitely kudos to the coaching staff
Grey Cup bound vs the Kellyless (tough luck) Argos
Quote from: The Zipp on November 10, 2024, 01:13:54 AMno reason to not have augustine in there
And every other sub that they have. Not sure why we left guys in with a couple minutes left.
It's official: we own the Riders. We own them here. We own them there. We own them everywhere.
Corey Mace looked like a 12 year old boy.
What a butt kicking. Where's Jayrock? I hope that was a legit enough sellout for him. My ears are still ringing.
Bring on Arrrrrebuckle in the 2007 backup QB revenge cup.
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 02:17:11 AMI Think Zach was sacked once.
Hey Mark! Is that right? Just one sack? Wow! Even they (Riders) must be surprised by that statistic with their D-line. That's truly remarkable. Kudos to the Bomber O-line and the blocking scheme's the Bombers drew up.
Speaking of the O-line, some of the Rider fans over at Riderfans.com were complaining that our O-line, and specifically Stanley Bryant, were holding on every play. Obviously a bit of frustration at the lack of pressure on Zach.
I didn't see much indecision from Zach in this game. He did a good job of getting the ball out quickly and when he did chuck it deep he did a great job hooking up with his receivers, like Lawler and Demski. Good job by the supporting cast too. Wheatfall made a clutch catch to get us vital first down at one point. Same with Pokey Wilson. Both were money when counted on. Really nice to see.
Let's hope Buck Pierce and the boys can come up with a great game plan for the Argos.
Just got home. WOOT WOOT
Good job Bombers. You did exactly what I predicted you would. Even the OL stepped up (mega!). Even Wheatfall stepped up. D went into smother mode. SSK was doomed from the 1st Q.
Will have more to say, but this is good enough for now. I still need to book a few last minute details of my BC trip... hopefully there were more SSK fans pre-booked than WPG fans so that things are still open.
So proud of the team, they did what I wanted and won the W, and that's good enough. However, I think nothing stops them from winning this cup in a week.
The boys just dominated
A thing of beauty!
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 10, 2024, 03:11:13 AMIt's official: we own the Riders. We own them here. We own them there. We own them everywhere.
Corey Mace looked like a 12 year old boy.
What a butt kicking. Where's Jayrock? I hope that was a legit enough sellout for him. My ears are still ringing.
Bring on Arrrrrebuckle in the 2007 backup QB revenge cup.
hallelujah
Quote from: Jockitch on November 10, 2024, 03:07:18 AMKudos to the protection throughout the game
Definitely kudos to the coaching staff
Grey Cup bound vs the Kellyless (tough luck) Argos
Yeah, tough break for Chad Kelly and the Argos with Chad's injury. That didn't look good at all. Strange that Kelly didn't appear to be in any pain at all. Just looked confused at his predicament as he tried to straighten out his leg. You could tell something wasn't right anatomically with that shin/ankle, and I've since heard it was his tibia (shin) bone that was broken/fractured.
Toronto is going to have Arbuckle ready and they are a very good team with a great defence and we're going to have to play our best game of the season to come out of BC with the win.
I want to add that when they introduced the refs I saw #22 in the group! I almost had an aneurysm. He's the bleepitybleep that cost us the first SSK game with 2 completely fake DPIs.
I spent the whole game searching for him on the field with binocs, and I couldn't. So I'm nearly positive he must have been either a backup official or a help-the-HC/communication official.
I was so thankful! 2 fake DPIs might have been murder for us if they happen early to stop our momo.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 10, 2024, 03:11:13 AMIt's official: we own the Riders. We own them here. We own them there. We own them everywhere.
Corey Mace looked like a 12 year old boy.
What a butt kicking. Where's Jayrock? I hope that was a legit enough sellout for him. My ears are still ringing.
Bring on Arrrrrebuckle in the 2007 backup QB revenge cup.
LMAO! Awesome name for the game. Kevin Glenn's arm loves it too! What a great team that was. I'm sure we win that Grey Cup if Kevin Glenn doesn't go down.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 10, 2024, 03:24:24 AMI want to add that when they introduced the refs I saw #22 in the group! I almost had an aneurysm. He's the bleepitybleep that cost us the first SSK game with 2 completely fake DPIs.
I spent the whole game searching for him on the field with binocs, and I couldn't. So I'm nearly positive he must have been either a backup official or a help-the-HC/communication official.
I was so thankful! 2 fake DPIs might have been murder for us if they happen early to stop our momo.
Thanks for the update from Princess Auto Stadium. Oh yes, I remember #22 throwing phantom DPI flags in Regina very well.
I didn't see #22 at all today and I would have been terrified if he was out there working the game.
I think the officials actually did a good job today of letting the teams play and the Riders kept it relatively clean although there were a few sleazy things going on out there especially when the game was getting away from them. Overall I thought they did a good job so kudos to them.
Been reading the posts on the Roughrider forum and laughing my *** off. So far the Rider fans have blamed the loss on their head coach, their offensive and defensive coordinators, the referees for not calling penalties on the Bombers, the command center fro not overturning calls against the Riders, the noisy ccrowd, the panel who are absolutely "crowing" about the Bombers, Glen Suter for showing and raving about Bomber highlights, and even the ghost of Craig Dickenson..
One "fan" claimed that the Bombers were playing with 14 players on defence. At least one person got it right. He claimed that one team was just glad to be in the game and the other was there to win it!
Some Final Comments (after the game_:
"They're just better than we are. They're arrogant pricks but they're better."
"Fifth year in a row I won't be watching the Grey Cup "
"Nobody showed up to play tonight. Nobody."
"It's like the Riders gave their playbook to Winnipeg before the game started."
"Our last four playoff defeats have been at the hands of the Blue Bombers. They own us, no other way to put it."
IT MUST SUCK TO BE A RIDER FAN!"
I don't blame their fans for blaming their coach. Going for it on 3rd down on their own 24 waits 12 minutes to go was the most ridiculous call I've ever seen in my 60 years watching the game. 12 minutes is an absolute eternity, punt the ball away, get a turnover+which they did, score, which they did, and it's a one score hpgsme. Turn the ball over on downs and now the game is over. Boneheaded call.
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 09, 2024, 01:08:51 PM[Cole]
The transactions show him moved to the PR and not the IR. However, the roster doesn't match all the transaction activity yesterday.
Wow, that's rough! Don't IR people get their name on the cup, or no? PR people certainly don't. I think everyone gets a ring?
Is there a thing where IR people get playoff money but PR people don't? Why not just IR Cole if we don't need him at the moment? I think Cole is a keeper as a backup.
Pretty good day. Jets win another game to go 14-1 to start the season. Then the Bombers dominate the Riders to get to there 5 straight GC.
Kramdi 9 DTs and 1 sack. and Schmekel 3 DTs, both had a very strong game.
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 04:05:57 AMI don't blame their fans for blaming their coach. Going for it on 3rd down on their own 24 waits 12 minutes to go was the most ridiculous call I've ever seen in my 60 years watching the game. 12 minutes is an absolute eternity, punt the ball away, get a turnover+which they did, score, which they did, and it's a one score hpgsme. Turn the ball over on downs and now the game is over. Boneheaded call.
Exactly. May get him fired.
Quote from: Tiger on November 10, 2024, 04:50:50 AMExactly. May get him fired.
who? mace? He ain't going anywhere.
Game Summary - WDF
https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/11/09/game-recap-western-final-ssk-wpg/?lid=u2srjevnl4f5
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 04:05:57 AMI don't blame their fans for blaming their coach. Going for it on 3rd down on their own 24 waits 12 minutes to go was the most ridiculous call I've ever seen in my 60 years watching the game. 12 minutes is an absolute eternity, punt the ball away, get a turnover+which they did, score, which they did, and it's a one score hpgsme. Turn the ball over on downs and now the game is over. Boneheaded call.
Before the play happened, my buddy and I were talking about how they might have to go for it at that point in the game.
No point in playing passively at that point. Have no issue with him going for it.
Quote from: Jesse on November 10, 2024, 12:35:07 PMBefore the play happened, my buddy and I were talking about how they might have to go for it at that point in the game.
No point in playing passively at that point. Have no issue with him going for it.
You can score 2 TDs in three minutes in the CFL. There's 12 minutes left. They go for it and miss. Then they're down three TDs with better field position a little later and punt. Admittedly that one worked out as Lucky dropped the ball but still. Made no sense.
Wouldn't have made a difference but Corey went full Happy Meal in the fourth quarter.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 10, 2024, 12:51:30 PMYou can score 2 TDs in three minutes in the CFL. There's 12 minutes left. They go for it and miss. Then they're down three TDs with better field position a little later and punt. Admittedly that one worked out as Lucky dropped the ball but still. Made no sense.
Wouldn't have made a difference but Corey went full Happy Meal in the fourth quarter.
I get that, but I also saw how our offence was playing.
Mace figured if you punt the ball back and we score, it's pretty much game over. So you put all your marbles in on keeping the ball and scoring.
It didn't work. But he was already in a very low percentage situation.
YA Baby!!!!
Great win, and always nice to stomp the Riders, but THE GOAL IS STILL THE GOAL! ;D
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 10, 2024, 04:06:14 AMWow, that's rough! Don't IR people get their name on the cup, or no? PR people certainly don't. I think everyone gets a ring?
Is there a thing where IR people get playoff money but PR people don't? Why not just IR Cole if we don't need him at the moment? I think Cole is a keeper as a backup.
Now the transactions show those same players moved to 1 game IR. It must be some sort of process thing the CFL or Bomber do. At least those players will get paid and remain under contract.
The roster page is still not totally correct butt it's closer than yesterday.
As usual it's difficult to see the rotation on defence. I saw everybody getting in on the action and there weren't many errors. My impression was that Alexander didn't play much but Taylor did. However Ford was invisible as well and we know he was on the field.
So being invisible on defence is often a very good thing when the opponent won't attack your area.
I'd be curious to know what posters in the stands saw in the rotation. Only allowing 16 points when it mattered was impressive.
Quote from: J5V on November 10, 2024, 03:22:43 AMYeah, tough break for Chad Kelly and the Argos with Chad's injury. That didn't look good at all. Strange that Kelly didn't appear to be in any pain at all. Just looked confused at his predicament as he tried to straighten out his leg. You could tell something wasn't right anatomically with that shin/ankle, and I've since heard it was his tibia (shin) bone that was broken/fractured.
Toronto is going to have Arbuckle ready and they are a very good team with a great defence and we're going to have to play our best game of the season to come out of BC with the win.
I thought the same thing.... what kind pain tolerance does he have? or in shock? that was nuts.
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 01:08:53 PMI thought the same thing.... what kind pain tolerance does he have? or in shock? that was nuts.
Somethin' not right with that boy.
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 10, 2024, 01:07:25 PMAs usual it's difficult to see the rotation on defence. I saw everybody getting in on the action and there weren't many errors. My impression was that Alexander didn't play much but Taylor did. However Ford was invisible as well and we know he was on the field.
So being invisible on defence is often a very good thing when the opponent won't attack your area.
I'd be curious to know what posters in the stands saw in the rotation. Only allowing 16 points when it mattered was impressive.
Yes Ford was invisible which is good.
Defense also held Riders to approximately 100 yards in the first half.
Other than opening drive the BB offence ramped up early which was good.
Quote from: Tiger on November 08, 2024, 01:24:09 AMThe game is ours to lose.
Players need to start quick.
Fans need to be loud often and early.
MOS needs to do the MOS vibe.
All will be fine.
Mission accomplished.
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 01:08:53 PMI thought the same thing.... what kind pain tolerance does he have? or in shock? that was nuts.
Two bones in the lower leg, he still had one good one. When the bad one went sideways though that was something to cringe at for sure. It's possible that he made it worse by standing on it too.
Didn't see what happened as I was tailgating at the time and could only see the eastern final on the screen at an angle.
Tibia is majority of weight-bearing for lower leg, so that would be painful to stand on.
We're going to need to get to work getting Ford, Holm, Griffin and Jones re-signed. Those guys are playing lights out. I think these players will be motivated to re-sign in Winnipeg.
Happy Sunday everyone!
How we feeling today?! Was that not one of the most fun games in a while?! I couldn't wipe this grin off my face if I tried.
What. A. Win!
Ford and holm especially. They virtually lock down the short side of the field and nothing gets completed over there. They contest every throw and look how many knockdowns holm has yesterday, he was the difference on defense. They didn't even bother trying fords guy. When you force the offense to work on the wide side of the field only, that makes it tough on them
Quote from: Tiger on November 10, 2024, 02:13:07 PMMission accomplished.
Note quite.....ONE MORE MISSION TO COMPLETE LADS! :)
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 10, 2024, 02:33:39 PMWe're going to need to get to work getting Ford, Holm, Griffin and Jones re-signed. Those guys are playing lights out. I think these players will be motivated to re-sign in Winnipeg.
Ford may want to try the NFL again if Bombers don't give him a good offer. At least a 2 year deal with guaranteed money is my assumption.
Are not Griffin and Jones on ELC's?
Holm was lights out yesterday, but I know during the season some people were questioning him.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on November 10, 2024, 03:29:58 PMFord may want to try the NFL again if Bombers don't give him a good offer. At least a 2 year deal with guaranteed money is my assumption.
Are not Griffin and Jones on ELC's?
Holm was lights out yesterday, but I know during the season some people were questioning him.
I don't think Ford will be trying the NFL again but a good CFL contract is nothing compared to NFL money. Giving him a 2 or 3 year deal with guaranteed money would be great. I think Kramdi is around $140K but it may cost more for Ford?
Griffin and Jones must be close to ELC deals.
Over under on Streveler wearing a fur coat on the sidelines at the GC? Appears to have lost his shirt yesterday lol.
Rewatching the game this morning. Holm was a beast.
Quote from: J5V on November 10, 2024, 03:12:42 AMHey Mark! Is that right? Just one sack? Wow! Even they (Riders) must be surprised by that statistic with their D-line. That's truly remarkable. Kudos to the Bomber O-line and the blocking scheme's the Bombers drew up.
according to John Hodge there were no sacks ... 3downnation:
"Winnipeg's offensive line of Stanley Bryant, Liam Dobson, Chris Kolankowski, Patrick Neufeld, and Eric Lofton was sensational on Saturday night, allowing zero sacks. Zach Collaros was pulled to the ground on his first touchdown pass to Kenny Lawler but went virtually untouched for the rest of the game as he consistently had time to make throws deep down the field."
I guess "pulled to the ground " is what I thought was a sack.
Those guys had a few bad games, but as usual got it together. I Think our O line coach (Marty costello?)
is top level.
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 04:01:46 PMaccording to John Hodge there were no sacks "Winnipeg's offensive line of Stanley Bryant, Liam Dobson, Chris Kolankowski, Patrick Neufeld, and Eric Lofton was sensational on Saturday night, allowing zero sacks. Zach Collaros was pulled to the ground on his first touchdown pass to Kenny Lawler but went virtually untouched for the rest of the game as he consistently had time to make throws deep down the field."
I guess "pulled to the ground " is what I thought was a sack.
Zack was called for intentional grounding and that is like a sack.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on November 10, 2024, 03:44:20 PMOver under on Streveler wearing a fur coat on the sidelines at the GC? Appears to have lost his shirt yesterday lol.
Rewatching the game this morning. Holm was a beast.
Is there a replay online somewhere? I am not at home right now so did not record it.
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 04:01:46 PMaccording to John Hodge there were no sacks ... 3downnation:
"Winnipeg's offensive line of Stanley Bryant, Liam Dobson, Chris Kolankowski, Patrick Neufeld, and Eric Lofton was sensational on Saturday night, allowing zero sacks. Zach Collaros was pulled to the ground on his first touchdown pass to Kenny Lawler but went virtually untouched for the rest of the game as he consistently had time to make throws deep down the field."
I guess "pulled to the ground " is what I thought was a sack.
Those guys had a few bad games, but as usual got it together. I Think our O line coach (Marty costello?)
is top level.
From reviewing the game stats yesterday, Bombers gave up ZERO sacks. Collaros threw one into the dirt which they called him for intentional grounding and another one or two he just tossed away to avoid a sack. No lofting up crazy balls to be potentially picked.
Where was the CRYDERS MODP nominee? If he was covering Lawler or even to some degree Demski, he had his lunch eaten left right and centre yesterday! Ford is just as good if not better.
Quote from: J5V on November 10, 2024, 03:12:42 AMHey Mark! Is that right? Just one sack? Wow! Even they (Riders) must be surprised by that statistic with their D-line. That's truly remarkable. Kudos to the Bomber O-line and the blocking scheme's the Bombers drew up.
Speaking of the O-line, some of the Rider fans over at Riderfans.com were complaining that our O-line, and specifically Stanley Bryant, were holding on every play. Obviously a bit of frustration at the lack of pressure on Zach.
I didn't see much indecision from Zach in this game. He did a good job of getting the ball out quickly and when he did chuck it deep he did a great job hooking up with his receivers, like Lawler and Demski. Good job by the supporting cast too. Wheatfall made a clutch catch to get us vital first down at one point. Same with Pokey Wilson. Both were money when counted on. Really nice to see.
Let's hope Buck Pierce and the boys can come up with a great game plan for the Argos.
I noticed alot of 6 man line formations today, which obviously helped with protection and giving ZC time to make plays, which he did. Hats off to the recieving corps. Yes, Lawler had a monster day, but the rest did a great job of not dropping any passes. Look how many passes the Riders recievers dropped, big difference there, especially Johnson dropping the one in the end zone. The game could have been alot closer, just glad we have the better recieving corps!!
Quote from: BlueInCgy on November 10, 2024, 03:44:20 PMOver under on Streveler wearing a fur coat on the sidelines at the GC? Appears to have lost his shirt yesterday lol.
Rewatching the game this morning. Holm was a beast.
Could be Streve's swan song. Wilson claimed his spot for next season rolling off that 48 yard scamper off short yardage! :) Would love to see what his passing game is like beyond pre-season games. Seems he has a strong arm.
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 05:53:56 PMI noticed alot of 6 man line formations today, which obviously helped with protection and giving ZC time to make plays, which he did. Hats off to the recieving corps. Yes, Lawler had a monster day, but the rest did a great job of not dropping any passes. Look how many passes the Riders recievers dropped, big difference there, especially Johnson dropping the one in the end zone. The game could have been alot closer, just glad we have the better receiving corps!!
Some drops due to goof ups, others were in traffic and they were hearing footsteps behind them. Lots of rock 'em, sock 'em going on with both defences yesterday. Remember one minor shot of some clown who had Olivera down and pushed him down again as he was getting up. Slight, but I noticed it as they had a close up on the tube. Brady just ignored the idiot.
Quote from: markf on November 10, 2024, 04:01:46 PMaccording to John Hodge there were no sacks ... 3downnation:
"Winnipeg's offensive line of Stanley Bryant, Liam Dobson, Chris Kolankowski, Patrick Neufeld, and Eric Lofton was sensational on Saturday night, allowing zero sacks. Zach Collaros was pulled to the ground on his first touchdown pass to Kenny Lawler but went virtually untouched for the rest of the game as he consistently had time to make throws deep down the field."
I guess "pulled to the ground " is what I thought was a sack.
Those guys had a few bad games, but as usual got it together. I Think our O line coach (Marty costello?)
is top level.
It's a sack if he still has the ball. Otherwise it's just a hit after the fact.
Quote from: dd on November 10, 2024, 04:05:57 AMI don't blame their fans for blaming their coach. Going for it on 3rd down on their own 24 waits 12 minutes to go was the most ridiculous call I've ever seen in my 60 years watching the game. 12 minutes is an absolute eternity, punt the ball away, get a turnover+which they did, score, which they did, and it's a one score hpgsme. Turn the ball over on downs and now the game is over. Boneheaded call.
Wasn't there a big game south of the border where they had a beast with 4th and goal on the one, and they passed?
But, sure, other than that one, that was pretty stupid.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 10, 2024, 07:57:09 PMWasn't there a big game south of the border where they had a beast with 4th and goal on the one, and they passed?
But, sure, other than that one, that was pretty stupid.
You mean the Super Bowl. When Butler picked off Wilson to win the game.
Where's John Lu? Haven't seen him for many weeks? Sick? Quit? Fired? I was warming up to him.
Instead, we get Henoc on the sidelines. He did a good job this time. Nice coat, too. Saw him with Hannah at the entrance to Pinnacle pre-game. My son's like "that dude is huge!".
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 10, 2024, 09:40:49 PMWhere's John Lu? Haven't seen him for many weeks?
Haven't seen him since the Jets game vs. the Penguins for Little's retirement on Oct. 20th.
Weird how he's just gone.
With all due respect to John, I prefer Sara, its good to have her back on the Jets feed.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 10, 2024, 08:30:25 PMYou mean the Super Bowl. When Butler picked off Wilson to win the game.
Seattle had the best power back in the NFL too at the time. I believe there was enough time for two tries...One on the top nominations for the anti-Darwin awards of all time!! :D
I found the missing ref #22. He was indeed the sideline "helper/comms" official for MOS. Spotted him standing right next to him with a jacket on.
I guess he's been demoted or being retired. Good.
Quote from: gobombersgo on November 10, 2024, 08:25:43 AM
I know Lawler and Holm and Kramdi arguably had their best games of the year, but I just wanna give some props to Gabe Wallace on the Oliviera TD. I was sitting in the 6th row and he absolutely annihilated his guy and drove him straight back like 3 yards deep into the endzone, and Brady followed right behind him. It's at 9:33 in this video:
https://youtu.be/djRz2ZEo_nI?si=blLfxnYSg3GAMdMV&t=573
Also, I thought Tony Jones had a great game. Not gonna lie, if Biggie calls it a career, I'd be OK going into camp rolling with Jones at MLB.
Gabe Wallace is going to be pretty good. 17th overall pick and was rostered from week one on (barring injury).
You almost can't do better than that as a first year Canadian offensive lineman especially on a team like the Bombers who have solid starters across the board there.
Hard to judge a career on year one but the early returns and signals are very, very good.
yikes Wallace is huge.
at 1:47 Bombers have 7 O linemen.
seems like Brady , when carrying the ball gets hit, slows down, then just surges forward again knocking somebody down. great blocker on pass protection too.
thanks Victor
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 11, 2024, 01:49:02 PMGabe Wallace is going to be pretty good. 17th overall pick and was rostered from week one on (barring injury).
You almost can't do better than that as a first year Canadian offensive lineman especially on a team like the Bombers who have solid starters across the board there.
Hard to judge a career on year one but the early returns and signals are very, very good.
Exactly what our OL needed.
Wallace + Randolph look like good young pieces.
Before I leave on my trip, I want to drop my brief analysis. It took me until now to get both playoff games watched properly.
- SSK lost because they didn't do what "got them there". They tried to be a deep pass team, which they are not. All but 1 deep pass failed.
- Nick Taylor is the only guy that didn't bite on the fake punt. No one listened to him.
- D schemes were wacky as all heck: players all over the place out of their natural spots trying to confuse Trevor. There were times Kramdi was FS and BA was SAM!! It was mental. It'll need a full study later. I'm not sure we've ever done this before under Younger.
- Bonds wasn't a free bingo spot. He made a couple of big plays and almost had an INT, and forced a TOD stop with a great open-field tackle.
- Zach on mic saying to Biggie "as the future PA president" before V formation. LOL. I'd vote for him! Could be a hint as to Biggie's prognosis...
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 12, 2024, 04:25:40 PMBefore I leave on my trip, I want to drop my brief analysis. It took me until now to get both playoff games watched properly.
- SSK lost because they didn't do what "got them there". They tried to be a deep pass team, which they are not. All but 1 deep pass failed.
- Nick Taylor is the only guy that didn't bite on the fake punt. No one listened to him.
- D schemes were wacky as all heck: players all over the place out of their natural spots trying to confuse Trevor. There were times Kramdi was FS and BA was SAM!! It was mental. It'll need a full study later. I'm not sure we've ever done this before under Younger.
- Bonds wasn't a free bingo spot. He made a couple of big plays and almost had an INT, and forced a TOD stop with a great open-field tackle.
- Zach on mic saying to Biggie "as the future PA president" before V formation. LOL. I'd vote for him! Could be a hint as to Biggie's prognosis...
Yeah that's the thing. Players are being rotated in and out of various spots on different schemes. Different players are rotated on and off the filed in different formations.
On TV it's nearly impossible to tell who is where or why. All you can tell is the result and the result on a play by play analysis were very good. Only a few Rider plays had better than average success.
Realistically we only gave up 16 points and 1 TD when it mattered. That will you most games if you aren't turning over the ball.
Photo Gallery - Western Final (https://www.bluebombers.com/photo-gallery-western-final/)
Some gooders in there. Enjoy!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 12, 2024, 08:08:19 PMPhoto Gallery - Western Final (https://www.bluebombers.com/photo-gallery-western-final/)
Some gooders in there. Enjoy!
Pic 71 - man, you can really see how huge Wallace is. Brady looks like a little kid hiding behind his dad, and Brady isn't a little guy.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 12, 2024, 04:25:40 PMBefore I leave on my trip, I want to drop my brief analysis. It took me until now to get both playoff games watched properly.
- SSK lost because they didn't do what "got them there". They tried to be a deep pass team, which they are not. All but 1 deep pass failed.
- Nick Taylor is the only guy that didn't bite on the fake punt. No one listened to him.
- D schemes were wacky as all heck: players all over the place out of their natural spots trying to confuse Trevor. There were times Kramdi was FS and BA was SAM!! It was mental. It'll need a full study later. I'm not sure we've ever done this before under Younger.
Coach LaPo breaks down the Bomber D-Fence, at times they had 9 DB's on the field.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 12, 2024, 08:08:19 PMPhoto Gallery - Western Final (https://www.bluebombers.com/photo-gallery-western-final/)
Some gooders in there. Enjoy!
I've never been on a sports team, those photos sure give an idea of what it's like...
they appreciate the fans I know, but the looks between guys...... I think mostly they do it for each other.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 12, 2024, 04:25:40 PMBefore I leave on my trip, I want to drop my brief analysis. It took me until now to get both playoff games watched properly.
- SSK lost because they didn't do what "got them there". They tried to be a deep pass team, which they are not. All but 1 deep pass failed.
Sask got behind big early and the dink and dunk game went out the window. It's what I called prior to the game on how to shut their offence down as they don't have any deep pass receivers really and hard to do against the Bombers secondary anyway.
Arbuckle a bit of a wildcard. Argos have some deep threats as shown in East semi and final games. The thing is can Arbuckle get it out to them consistently? I think this is a game to mix in some blitzes more than they did against Sask. Also similarly, GET UP ON THEM EARLY...Make them play catch up. That almost always benefits the team that is ahead.
Haha Riders.
Not a dirty team but can't make it a single game without getting fined.
My prediction? The shine is going to come off Mace next year and it's not going to be pretty. The team won a few more games than with Dickenson but they're still rotten.
https://3downnation.com/2024/11/13/saskatchewan-roughriders-defensive-lineman-bryan-cox-jr-fined-for-flipping-off-bombers-fans/
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 13, 2024, 11:22:13 PMHaha Riders.
Not a dirty team but can't make it a single game without getting fined.
My prediction? The shine is going to come off Mace next year and it's not going to be pretty. The team won a few more games than with Dickenson but they're still rotten.
https://3downnation.com/2024/11/13/saskatchewan-roughriders-defensive-lineman-bryan-cox-jr-fined-for-flipping-off-bombers-fans/
I think that entirely depends on their QB situation.
Quote from: Jesse on November 13, 2024, 11:33:16 PMI think that entirely depends on their QB situation.
I don't think it does. Too many players acting like selfish idiots this year. Ultimately, you're not going to be very successful with that stuff going on. The main reason they were as good as they were was because their defense turned the ball over at a super high clip. That's not usually sustainable, at least not at such a high margin. If they're not .500 it's not pretty in Regina. I wouldn't bet on them.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 13, 2024, 11:22:13 PMHaha Riders.
Not a dirty team but can't make it a single game without getting fined.
My prediction? The shine is going to come off Mace next year and it's not going to be pretty. The team won a few more games than with Dickenson but they're still rotten.
https://3downnation.com/2024/11/13/saskatchewan-roughriders-defensive-lineman-bryan-cox-jr-fined-for-flipping-off-bombers-fans/
Ha ha I saw that. Cox was getting upset at us in 107. What's incredible is, that's not the first time a rider has flashed the fans the middle finger. Farjardo did it a few years ago. I know, shocked right ? He actually did. I saw it with my own eyes.
Zero class in that organization these days.
15th fine of 2024: https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/13/one-player-fined-following-division-finals-games/
Makes the win on Saturday that much better. ;D
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 14, 2024, 02:14:51 PMZero class in that organization these days.
15th fine of 2024: https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/13/one-player-fined-following-division-finals-games/
Makes the win on Saturday that much better. ;D
Fined nearly once per game. Just ridiculous.
It's because the Command Centre is against them and otherwise they would have won the Cup already this year, guys.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 14, 2024, 02:14:51 PMZero class in that organization these days.
15th fine of 2024: https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/13/one-player-fined-following-division-finals-games/
Makes the win on Saturday that much better. ;D
And the rider fans think what he did was a great thing. No class at all.
Quote from: wpg#1 on November 14, 2024, 02:31:33 PMAnd the rider fans think what he did was a great thing. No class at all.
Cult-like behaviour.
Quote from: blue_or_die on November 14, 2024, 02:28:57 PMIt's because the Command Centre is against them and otherwise they would have won the Cup already this year, guys.
Save the game with all those phantom calls earlier this season. Worst reffed game I think ever saw in my life! Brutal. 🤨
Quote from: wpg#1 on November 14, 2024, 01:56:57 PMFarjardo did it a few years ago. I know, shocked right ? He actually did. I saw it with my own eyes.
That's why you have to keep the cam/phone at the ready!
Cody did it? Hahah no wonder his Jesus Sprinkles abandoned him in the week 21 game and the EDF!
Quote from: VictorRomano on November 11, 2024, 12:59:45 PMI know Lawler and Holm and Kramdi arguably had their best games of the year, but I just wanna give some props to Gabe Wallace on the Oliviera TD.
Ya, I noticed Wallace on some road-grading duties too. Monster. I knew out of TC he was best used as a grader. How do you stop that guy?
I think every D guys upped his game. It was insane. If they keep that up in the GC, Arbuckle is doomed to 4+ INTs.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on November 13, 2024, 10:21:34 PMSask got behind big early and the dink and dunk game went out the window.
Pretty sure SSK tried the mid/deep ball a couple of times before they were down 14. And even if you're down 14 in the 1st, why do you abandon your game plan? 14 pts in a CFL game is nothing.
I think they specifically went in thinking the trick up their sleeve was the deep game. So funny: we were scared of the effective dink & dunk, no one was scared of the SSK deep ball!
Quote from: wpg#1 on November 14, 2024, 02:31:33 PMAnd the rider fans think what he did was a great thing. No class at all.
No class by player or fans supporting his poor behaviour. Par for the course though for that outfit.