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Title: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: ModAdmin on October 31, 2024, 02:39:19 PM
Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards

WINNIPEG, MB., October 31, 2024 – The Canadian Football League today announced the nominees for the Most Outstanding Player Awards, and Winnipeg's Brady Oliveira is once again a nominee in two categories: Most Outstanding Player and Most Outstanding Canadian.

The voting was conducted by members of The Football Reporters of Canada, the FRC's national chapter and head coaches.

Brady Oliveira earned a place on the Divisional All-CFL Team yesterday for a second straight season, and is now the West Division nominee for the league's Most Outstanding Player and Most Outstanding Canadian for a second straight season. Oliveira once again led the league in rushing and yards from scrimmage. He finished the season with 1,353 yards rushing and four touchdowns (three rushing, one receiving) and averaged 79.6 yards  rushing per game while posting six 100-yard games. Oliveira also had 476 receiving yards on a career-high 57 receptions to finish the year with 1,829 yards from scrimmage.

Oliveira won the league's Most Outstanding Canadian a year ago, and was a finalist for the Most Outstanding Player as well.

The winners will be announced at the CFL's Player Awards, presented by Securian Canada, during Grey Cup week in Vancouver.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Jesse on October 31, 2024, 02:44:46 PM
Go Brady!!
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 31, 2024, 03:03:33 PM
Oliveira continues to carve out a stellar career. Congrats, Brady!
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: peg_city on October 31, 2024, 03:08:12 PM
If you want a good read, go over to Riders forum.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: blue_gold_84 on October 31, 2024, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: peg_city on October 31, 2024, 03:08:12 PMIf you want a good read, go over to Riders forum.

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Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Jesse on October 31, 2024, 03:25:57 PM
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Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 31, 2024, 03:51:08 PM
Other finalists.

2024 CFL AWARDS FINALISTS
Category    West Division nominee    East Division nominee
Most Outstanding Player    Brady Oliveira (WPG)    Bo Levi Mitchell (HAM)
Most Outstanding Defensive Player    Rolan Milligan Jr. (SSK) Tyrice Beverette (MTL)
Most Outstanding Canadian    Brady Oliveira (WPG)    Isaac Adeyemi-Berglund (MTL)
Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman    Logan Ferland (SSK)    Ryan Hunter (TOR)
Most Outstanding Special Teams Player    Sean Whyte (BC)    Janarion Grant (TOR)
Most Outstanding Rookie    Nick Anderson (EDM)    Shemar Bridges (HAM)
Coach of the Year    Corey Mace (SSK)    Jason Maas (MTL)

It's playing out like nearly every team will win one award and unlikely any teams wins two or more.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: RebusRankin on October 31, 2024, 03:52:02 PM
Brady should win both
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 01, 2024, 01:21:08 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 31, 2024, 03:51:08 PMCoach of the Year    Corey Mace (SSK)    Jason Maas (MTL)


The previous 2 seasons Saskatchewan had 7 game losing skids in each year.
This year the Riders had a stretch where they went 0-6-1, a massive improvement.
Don't think that will be enough for Mace to beat out Maas though.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 02:22:21 AM
Quote from: RebusRankin on October 31, 2024, 03:52:02 PMBrady should win both

I think Brady is guaranteed to win MOC now, simply because he was up for MOP too and the other guy wasn't.

And what's a "Adeyemi-Berglund" anyhow?  Sounds like a new disease.  :D

That dude may have been ok, but in no way was he to their team what Brady is to ours!

MOP is a toss-up.  Now that we know the 2 finalists, I think they pick BLM for the "story".  Brady = no story this year.  Plus, BLM said he "wants it"!  Brad should say he "wants it" too!  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 02:24:21 AM
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on November 01, 2024, 01:21:08 PMDon't think that will be enough for Mace to beat out Maas though.

The fact Mace is in the running and MOS isn't is ridiculous.  MOS overcame a horrific season start.  He overcame horrifically debilitating injuries all-season.

I've noticed that over his entire tenure MOS has gotten the royal shaft in the coach awards.  Maybe he's not enough of a "story".
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 03, 2024, 03:33:15 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 02:24:21 AMThe fact Mace is in the running and MOS isn't is ridiculous.  MOS overcame a horrific season start.  He overcame horrifically debilitating injuries all-season.

I've noticed that over his entire tenure MOS has gotten the royal shaft in the coach awards.  Maybe he's not enough of a "story".

That's a legitimate portion of his record this season, it wasn't all bad luck,  O'Shea made numerous decision that caused the team to stumble out of the gate, and he's admitted as much.

Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 06:54:53 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 03, 2024, 03:33:15 AMThat's a legitimate portion of his record this season, it wasn't all bad luck,  O'Shea made numerous decision that caused the team to stumble out of the gate, and he's admitted as much.

Granted... but then why does Mace get the nod when MOS ended the season with a better record??

The awards never seem to favor coaches that are consistently good for long periods: unless they are 16-2 good and can't be ignored.  Aggravating.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Jesse on November 03, 2024, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 02:24:21 AMThe fact Mace is in the running and MOS isn't is ridiculous.  MOS overcame a horrific season start.  He overcame horrifically debilitating injuries all-season.

I've noticed that over his entire tenure MOS has gotten the royal shaft in the coach awards.  Maybe he's not enough of a "story".

The coach award is almost always given to the team that went from bad to good. The Hufnagel's who finish in 1st every year only win it when there's no cinderella story.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TBURGESS on November 03, 2024, 02:31:21 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 06:54:53 AMGranted... but then why does Mace get the nod when MOS ended the season with a better record??

The awards never seem to favor coaches that are consistently good for long periods: unless they are 16-2 good and can't be ignored.  Aggravating.
Are you suggesting that a giant wind giving us a better record means that MOS is a better coach?
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2024, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on November 03, 2024, 02:31:21 PMAre you suggesting that a giant wind giving us a better record means that MOS is a better coach?
Oh fudge here you go again with your BS annual MOS debate. You are insufferable.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TBURGESS on November 03, 2024, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2024, 02:42:53 PMOh fudge here you go again with your BS annual MOS debate. You are insufferable.
Here you go with your weekly insufferable miss-take.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 10:34:13 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on November 03, 2024, 02:31:21 PMAre you suggesting that a giant wind giving us a better record means that MOS is a better coach?

Yes.

MOS gave up the ball to start both halves, giving up much momentum and points.  We got that wind because MOS chose it.

And all the stupid fake things that went SSK's way this season that shouldn't have?  Like the 2 completely fake and made up ref #22 DPIs in our first game vs them?  Ya, there's your "real" win to still put us above SSK irrespective of any wind.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TBURGESS on November 04, 2024, 02:55:40 PM
One coach took a 6 win team that didn't win a game after September last year to within 1 point of first place in the west. 

The other coach took a 14 win team to 11 wins, won first in the west on the last week of the season & he needed a timely huge gust of wind at exactly the right time to do it. 

MOS can't give up the ball twice. He won the toss, deferred to the second half like most coaches do. He took the wind in the 4th like most coaches do. (Note this doesn't include the domed stadiums) Standard run of the mill high school level coaching decisions. 
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 04, 2024, 03:00:18 PM
Oh, yay... Some Monday Morning Mental Gymnastics.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TBURGESS on November 04, 2024, 03:02:54 PM
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 04, 2024, 03:00:18 PMOh, yay... Some Monday Morning Mental Gymnastics.
Look at that... yet another snarky comment that adds nothing to the convo. 
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Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 04, 2024, 03:05:02 PM
And the usual cranky rebuttal from Terry. ;D

O'Shea is the better (and classier) HC. That's not up for debate.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: DM83 on November 04, 2024, 03:25:20 PM
Slow week!
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 04, 2024, 11:30:18 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on November 04, 2024, 02:55:40 PMOne coach took a 6 win team that didn't win a game after September last year to within 1 point of first place in the west.

The other coach took a 14 win team to 11 wins, won first in the west on the last week of the season & he needed a timely huge gust of wind at exactly the right time to do it.

MOS can't give up the ball twice. He won the toss, deferred to the second half like most coaches do. He took the wind in the 4th like most coaches do. (Note this doesn't include the domed stadiums) Standard run of the mill high school level coaching decisions.


One coach won the West after starting 0-4 and 2-6 and the other coach blew the division after starting 5-1.

One coach is 107-69 and the other coach is 9-8-1.

One coach has won the division four straight years and been to five straight west finals and one coach has never won the division and will head coach his first ever divisional playoff game.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on November 05, 2024, 12:38:20 AM
Quote from: TBURGESS on November 04, 2024, 03:02:54 PMLook at that... yet another snarky comment that adds nothing to the convo.
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Yah well some posts just deserve snarky. See a pattern yet? :D
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 05, 2024, 12:40:25 AM
Quote from: TBURGESS on November 04, 2024, 02:55:40 PMOne coach took a 6 win team that didn't win a game after September last year to within 1 point of first place in the west.

Before anyone thinks SSK is "hot" right now or their coach is God for winning so much after labor day, look at:

SSK's last few opponents:
CGY
BC (Rourke)
EDM
OTT (Masoli)
CGY

SSK had 5 gimmee games, with the hardest being EDM after they found their oats.

Who did WPG have in the same timeframe:
MTL
TOR
HAM (resurgent 500Y/game BLM)
EDM
EDM

So our "easiest" games were probably against the team that was the hardest for SSK.

We had the strange bad luck of often playing now-known-bad teams when they were still good, or thought they might be good.  For instance: Dru-led strong-start OTT in week 2, VAJ-led league-best BC in week 3, CGY in week 4 before their major suckage set in.

SSK often got teams at their weakest: early season EDM, HAM (twice), WPG (week 7, injury devastated).  Then late-season off-a-cliff teams CGY, BC (Rourke), OTT (Masoli)

SSK beat the league best WPG/TOR/MTL 2 times. (I exclude BC as Rourke-led BC was crap and Masoli-led OTT was crap, and even Dru was hot/cold.)

WPG beat the league best SSK/TOR/MTL 3 times.  WPG won the SSK season series.

SSK got EDM for their 3-game divisional matchup (other than WPG/SSK), and they got 2 of them pre-Jones firing (free bingo spots).

WPG got BC for their 3-game divisional matchup, and all of them were pre-Rourke, meaning back when BC/VAJ/McInnis were unstoppable and running away with the West.

If I look at the sum total of the path WPG had vs SSK, I think we were/are the strong and stout team and SSK are the lucky posers.  We fought through a hellish last 5 games, a tough LDC/BB home & home, and tough back to back VAJ BC wins.

I'm starting to talk myself into thinking this WDF will be an epic disaster for SSK!
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: blue_gold_84 on November 05, 2024, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 04, 2024, 11:30:18 PMOne coach won the West after starting 0-4 and 2-6 and the other coach blew the division after starting 5-1.

One coach is 107-69 and the other coach is 9-8-1.

One coach has won the division four straight years and been to five straight west finals and one coach has never won the division and will head coach his first ever divisional playoff game.

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Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TBURGESS on November 05, 2024, 02:21:01 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 04, 2024, 11:30:18 PMOne coach won the West after starting 0-4 and 2-6 and the other coach blew the division after starting 5-1.

One coach is 107-69 and the other coach is 9-8-1.

One coach has won the division four straight years and been to five straight west finals and one coach has never won the division and will head coach his first ever divisional playoff game.

Winning the division for 4 straight years and having a long term winning record doesn't mean squat to this years MOC. 

One coach came back from a bad start of the season, the other came back from a bad middle of the season when their QB was hurt. 
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on November 05, 2024, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on November 05, 2024, 02:21:01 PMWinning the division for 4 straight years and having a long term winning record doesn't mean squat to this years MOC.

One coach came back from a bad start of the season, the other came back from a bad middle of the season when their QB was hurt.

Fair. I don't really care who wins the award. I will tell you this though: there are very few coaches north or south of the border who find success year in and year out. Short term success? Yes. Long term? Incredibly rare.

In fact, there's about 40 coaches in the NFL north of 105 wins. That's a lot of teams and a lot of sample size. In the CFL? 8 coaches ALL TIME have more wins than O'Shea.

So sure, Mace at 9-8-1. Cool. Good story and maybe wins an award. But we're talking about legacies and coaching pedigrees in different stratospheres in the big picture. Should very much be acknowledged.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TBURGESS on November 05, 2024, 04:16:28 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 05, 2024, 03:40:29 PMFair. I don't really care who wins the award. I will tell you this though: there are very few coaches north or south of the border who find success year in and year out. Short term success? Yes. Long term? Incredibly rare.

In fact, there's about 40 coaches in the NFL north of 105 wins. That's a lot of teams and a lot of sample size. In the CFL? 8 coaches ALL TIME have more wins than O'Shea.

So sure, Mace at 9-8-1. Cool. Good story and maybe wins an award. But we're talking about legacies and coaching pedigrees in different stratospheres in the big picture. Should very much be acknowledged.
I'm talking about this year's MOC, not legacies etc. If you're talking about that, then MOS is the obvious choice. 
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 07, 2024, 07:11:26 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 05, 2024, 03:40:29 PMSo sure, Mace at 9-8-1. Cool. Good story and maybe wins an award. But we're talking about legacies and coaching pedigrees in different stratospheres in the big picture. Should very much be acknowledged.

Mace rubs me the wrong way.  At least Dickenson The Lesser was affable.  Mace always has that stank face on.  He's always trying to look cool and disinterested.  He has a strange affect in pressers like he's got some actual mental problem.  He just always seems "off" to me.

Maybe he's like a savant genius, though.  I'm not really sure how he got to where he is and is seeing decent success.  But clearly there has to be something there.  But from a PR standpoint he's a horrific HC.  We all joke how MOS doesn't like to answer many questions and will just deflect or trot out the old tropes.  MOS is miles away a better PR HC than Mace.  And at least MOS has shown he can turn on the charm & wit when he needs to at an awards dinner, etc.  If Mace wins I predict a mumbling disaster when he accepts.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: Jesse on November 07, 2024, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 07, 2024, 07:11:26 AMMace rubs me the wrong way.  At least Dickenson The Lesser was affable.  Mace always has that stank face on.  He's always trying to look cool and disinterested.  He has a strange affect in pressers like he's got some actual mental problem.  He just always seems "off" to me.

Maybe he's like a savant genius, though.  I'm not really sure how he got to where he is and is seeing decent success.  But clearly there has to be something there.  But from a PR standpoint he's a horrific HC.  We all joke how MOS doesn't like to answer many questions and will just deflect or trot out the old tropes.  MOS is miles away a better PR HC than Mace.  And at least MOS has shown he can turn on the charm & wit when he needs to at an awards dinner, etc.  If Mace wins I predict a mumbling disaster when he accepts.


I'm the complete opposite. I couldn't stand Craig Dickenson.

Mace doesn't have the Rider stink on him yet for me.
Title: Re: Brady Oliveira nominated for two league awards
Post by: TecnoGenius on November 08, 2024, 05:26:36 AM
Quote from: Jesse on November 07, 2024, 10:46:31 AMI'm the complete opposite. I couldn't stand Craig Dickenson.

Mace doesn't have the Rider stink on him yet for me.

Oh, I couldn't stand Dickenson The Lesser either!  But you could at least feel for the guy, like Riderfans would always say: "awww shucks the guys tried hard, let's go bowling".

Mace spitting in disgust on national TSN when our team won the MTL game... ya, that type of stuff starts putting him in the BLM-level dislike tier IMHO.  I so much prefer the even-keel pragmatic MOS demeanor to the DC Super Villian motif Mace is exuding.