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Title: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: gobombersgo on October 04, 2024, 09:10:43 PM
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Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: gobombersgo on October 04, 2024, 09:11:13 PM
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Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: gobombersgo on October 04, 2024, 09:14:24 PM
Riders lose REC Shawn Bane Jr., RB Ryquell Armstead for Elks game
By 3Down Staff -October 4, 2024

The Saskatchewan Roughriders will be short a couple of key offensive weapons when they take on the Edmonton Elks on Saturday.

Receiver Shawn Bane Jr. has been ruled out after suffering a significant knee injury on a low hit from Ottawa's Money Hunter last week, though the Riders have not officially ruled him out for the season. The 29-year-old receiver has had a down year after breaking out in 2023 with his first thousand-yard season but has still caught 49 passes for 581 yards and five touchdowns.

Also absent will be new running back Ryquell Armstead, who suffered a shoulder injury while trying to deliver a block on the aforementioned Hunter. Despite switching teams halfway through the season, the 27-year-old sits fourth in CFL rushing with 160 carries for 862 yards and three touchdowns. The Millville, N.J. native is just two weeks removed from the CFL's first 200-yard rushing game since 2021.

Both players have been placed on the one-game injured list as CFL rules prevent additions to the six-game after a team's 15th contest. Jerreth Sterns, who posted 25 catches for 324 yards through the first half of the season, will start in place of Bane. Frankie Hickson will get the nod at running back after going for 392 yards and a touchdown on 76 carries in seven previous appearances.

Defensively, the Riders are expected to receive a boost with the returns of strong-side linebacker C.J. Reavis and defensive end Bryan Cox Jr., who each missed last week's victory. Veteran special teamer Jordan Herdman-Reed will also dress, while Canadian linebacker Zach Philion and American defensive end Eric Black have been returned to the practice roster.

Boundary cornerback Deontai Williams will serve his one-game suspension for an illegal and dangerous tackle on Redblacks' receiver Kalil Pimpleton last week, with Amari Henderson slotting in as his replacement. American right guard Jacob Brammer (knee) will be replaced by Nick Jones.

The Saskatchewan Roughriders (7-7-1) will visit the Edmonton Elks (5-10) on Saturday, October 5 at 7:00 p.m. EDT.

https://3downnation.com/2024/10/04/riders-lose-rec-shawn-bane-jr-rb-ryquell-armstead-for-elks-game/
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: gobombersgo on October 04, 2024, 09:16:57 PM
Elks missing top pass rusher Noah Curtis for non-football-related reasons
By 3Down Staff -October 4, 2024

The Saskatchewan Roughriders won't have to worry about the Edmonton Elks' top pass rusher when they make the trip to Commonwealth Stadium on Saturday.

Defensive lineman Noah Curtis will not play in Week 15 due to an undisclosed non-football-related matter that caused him to miss all three practices. The second-year Canadian, who was drafted by the Elks in the fourth round of the 2023 CFL Draft, has had a breakout campaign to this point, notching 21 tackles and six sacks in 15 games.

Former first-round draft pick Daniel Joseph will get the start for ratio reasons, though veteran American defensive end AC Leonard is expected to see the bulk of the playing time. Boundary halfback Darius Bratton will return to the secondary after a one-week absence and send rookie Jalen Green back to the practice roster, with Canadian linebacker Olivier Muembi dressing for additional depth.

Running back and returner Javon Leake will also be back in action after recovering from a thigh injury but will back up rookie Justin Rankin. The CFL's reigning Most Outstanding Special Team Player has blossomed into a rushing threat since taking on an increased offensive role, carrying 80 times for 506 yards and five touchdowns while adding 26 receptions for 191 more yards through the air.

Veteran running back Kevin Brown will be a healthy scratch as a result of the move. In 12 games this season, the former thousand-yard rusher has carried 101 times for 522 yards while adding 22 receptions for 138 more.

The Edmonton Elks (5-10) will host the Saskatchewan Roughriders (7-7-1) on Saturday, October 5 at 7:00 p.m. EDT.

https://3downnation.com/2024/10/04/elks-missing-top-pass-rusher-noah-curtis-for-non-football-related-reasons/
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on October 04, 2024, 09:19:15 PM
GO ELKS GO!  8)  :D
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: bluebeard on October 04, 2024, 10:47:34 PM
Riders will lose to the Elks as Riders have to many injuries.  Elks by 10.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 06:06:02 AM
You guys got it!  EDM needs to do us a solid here.  Besides, they don't want to win yet another one, especially not at home when they're trying to boost ST sales for 2025...

bluebeard is right: Depth chart changes show SSK getting weaker and EDM getting stronger.  The only "better" change for SSK is Reavis coming back in.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on October 05, 2024, 06:48:24 PM
Almost looks like Riders are resting starters... but alas, they are injuries.

Poor Cryders, EDM might just win this one.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Blue In BC on October 05, 2024, 07:07:39 PM
Go Elks. Riders are without a bunch of injured starters and Elks are getting slightly healthier.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: bunker on October 05, 2024, 07:37:54 PM
If elks win, we will then clinch first, and go 5 weeks without a meaningful game until Western Final Nov 9. Is that a problem? Rest versus rust?
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Blueforlife on October 05, 2024, 09:29:49 PM
Quote from: bunker on October 05, 2024, 07:37:54 PMIf elks win, we will then clinch first, and go 5 weeks without a meaningful game until Western Final Nov 9. Is that a problem? Rest versus rust?
We are an old team that is hurt.  Rest is key.  Rust already came off once, we undercoated the stars with fluid film.  Preventive maintenance will allow us to be well oiled into the off season.  ;D
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 05, 2024, 09:43:20 PM
MBT to start for the Elks. I wonder how long it will take for the Riders to deliver a head shot or go after one of his knees.   :-\
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: ichabod_crane on October 05, 2024, 10:24:53 PM
Quote from: bunker on October 05, 2024, 07:37:54 PMIf elks win, we will then clinch first, and go 5 weeks without a meaningful game until Western Final Nov 9. Is that a problem? Rest versus rust?

I think unlike prior years, O'Shea will play his starters a fair amount (if fully healthy) the last two games even IF first place is clinched. Two Grey Cup losses in a row....need to alter the formula a little. Keep the guys at least warm into the playoffs. Rookies certainly need no time off unless quite injured.

Even that last game vs Montreal might want to send a message we are coming for you if we meet in the Grey Cup again! :) Could be a game where BOTH teams are in cruise control as could be a meaningless game outside of bragging rights.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: jdrattops on October 05, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
Fak the Riders.  Would love to see an extremely hard hitting game today and an Elk 20pt victory. 
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:09:52 PM
Quote from: bunker on October 05, 2024, 07:37:54 PMIf elks win, we will then clinch first, and go 5 weeks without a meaningful game until Western Final Nov 9. Is that a problem? Rest versus rust?

If SSK wins this, then we'll have nearly the same number of garbage-season games as MTL (just 1 less).

I'd watch what MTL is doing.  What's the point of playing your starters the whole game if you're just going to lose anyhow because you're not going all-out?

Do it like the PS and Zach/Brady?kenny/Demski start 1-2 Q's then leave the game.

I'm a big REST over RUST guy at this point in the season.  We've always done a bunch of rest when in this situation before.  I don't see why MOS would change.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:12:59 PM
SSK & Harris sure love that dink & dunk game.  Stopping that will be the key to beating them in the post-season.  I see EDM's D plan is the same as ours: give up all the 7Y wide outs they want.

Trevor's nose bleeding is not normal... very strange.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:15:22 PM
Crowd doesn't look too bad.  Then again, the upper level is closed.  Still, EDM was getting pretty empty for a while.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 05, 2024, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:12:59 PMTrevor's nose bleeding is not normal... very strange.
Nose bleeds are not uncommon, especially in dry weather and/or allergy season.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:29:22 PM
Boy, it would appear that Prukop was good because he was in WPG, not because he was good at SY!  Our OL and coaches and scheme are what made him near perfect.  He's been botching SY in EDM all season.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: dd on October 05, 2024, 11:31:23 PM
He tripped and fell on the last one, only a rider offside saved him from turning the ball over
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:32:55 PM
Am I the only one that has about a 0.75s delay between the on-screen action and the audio?  Proulx's announcement was way out of sync, and the hit sounds aren't synced to the video.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:36:39 PM
Trevor getting flustered.  Must be all the blood taste in his mouth.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:38:36 PM
Slow threads here and at Riderfans.  Everyone must be doing dinner... like I'm supposed to be, but am delaying as much as possible to see if we won a home WDF...
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 05, 2024, 11:39:53 PM
dd and I are here with you Tecno.  :-)
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:41:47 PM
Even stats so far.  Both teams lacking intensity.  Who will care more?

Glad to see Gittens learned how to catch again for this game.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:44:31 PM
I really like Rankin.  He seems special, and he's really got the right attitude in pressers.

If SSK is going to press the box to stop the run, EDM needs to take advantage over the top.  If they are guarding that with their good DBs, then try the 15Y pass.  Something has got to be open with SSK concentrating with the run threat.

That was an amazing Lewis catch.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:47:09 PM
Nice play call.  But costs me some fantasy points since it's not Rankin  :'(
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: bomb squad on October 05, 2024, 11:47:24 PM
Is Suitor actually going back what 8 years and implying a receiver can't be pushed out of bounds to make an incompletion? Did I hear that correctly?
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 05, 2024, 11:48:30 PM
Quote from: bomb squad on October 05, 2024, 11:47:24 PMIs Suitor actually going back what 8 years and implying a receiver can't be pushed out of bounds to make an incompletion? Did I hear that correctly?
Yes you did. The man is insufferable.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:48:40 PM
Crap, just had power blink on and off and PVR lost power.  Luckily computer has a UPS
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 05, 2024, 11:50:17 PM
If the Riders drop any further behind the shenanigans will begin. I'd be surprised if MBT survives this game intact.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:51:37 PM
Can someone fill me in on the post-TD penalties?  My Shaw box is still rebooting

Need to know which team is doing the melting down
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: bomb squad on October 05, 2024, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: J5V on October 05, 2024, 11:50:17 PMIf the Riders drop any further behind the shenanigans will begin. I'd be surprised if MBT survives this game intact.

Oh come on. What shenanigans? It's the league that's against them. Everyone's against them you know.  ::)
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:55:34 PM
Well that was quick.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: blue_or_die on October 05, 2024, 11:57:08 PM
Got a game now. Hate that it happened, but nice response from the Riders.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 05, 2024, 11:57:08 PMGot a game now. Hate that it happened, but nice response from the Riders.

Sucked 'em in with all the dink & dunk, get the 1-on-1 DB cheating up on the double move and bingo off to the races.

Edit: haha, wasn't even a double move, just a straight go when the DBs were expecting outs or digs.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 05, 2024, 11:59:28 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 05, 2024, 11:55:34 PMWell that was quick.
Yup. Elks can't be giving those up like they did to us. I'd imagine the Riders did lots of film work on just how we attacked the Elk D.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:03:38 AM
Nice 2 sacks.  That's kind of odd for SSK OL vs EDM DL.  Good for EDM
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:05:50 AM
That Mathis guy is tall!  Having trouble differentiating him from Gino based on appearance alone.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:07:33 AM
Weak spot.  I think he had it
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: markf on October 06, 2024, 12:08:36 AM
In suitor world

Milligan has replaced Schaffer baker.

Sound off as usual when he's involved.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: markf on October 06, 2024, 12:10:09 AM
I Do not miss sayles.

these ads with the spoiled kids are not funny and are annoying.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:11:20 AM
Quote from: markf on October 06, 2024, 12:10:09 AMI Do not miss sayles

He was a good character here.  Let him go merely because he was getting max payday that year after the GC.

He wasn't too great in BC, but he's been much better in SSK.  Goes to show: it's all about the scheme.

He gets chummy post-game with our guys when we face SSK.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: blue_or_die on October 06, 2024, 12:11:57 AM
Great catch my Mitchell. Made it look easy but he was well covered.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 12:12:10 AM
Nice response by the Elks. Queue the Rider meltdown.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Jesse on October 06, 2024, 12:12:56 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:11:20 AMHe was a good character here.  Let him go merely because he was getting max payday that year after the GC.

He wasn't too great in BC, but he's been much better in SSK.  Goes to show: it's all about the scheme.

He gets chummy post-game with our guys when we face SSK.

He's definitely made some questionable comments in the media since he's been gone that don't vibe with FIFO.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:13:20 AM
Quote from: J5V on October 06, 2024, 12:12:10 AMNice response by the Elks. Queue the Rider meltdown.

I don't know, they may start trading haymakers.  Might be a high-yardage game.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:17:35 AM
Offside on sneaks really really bothers me.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: markf on October 06, 2024, 12:19:23 AM
Did the ball cross the goal?
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:19:32 AM
Well, now we get to see EDM's 1 min drill.  We know they aren't as good as WFC at it, but maybe they can sneak out a FG.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:19:53 AM
Quote from: markf on October 06, 2024, 12:19:23 AMDid the ball cross the goal?

Hmm, doesn't look like it!  Command just going to let it stand?

Well, they did give us that AH33 TD in the MTL Miracle game, so it's all good.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:21:40 AM
EDM *must* get the run game going.  Not now, of course, but in the 2nd H.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:23:31 AM
That tall Mathis guy is handy in zones where you have to elevate over a LBer.

What are you doing Gino!!!  Worst case scenario.  That might cost them the game.

C'mon EDM, get it back!  Kill the clock!
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:24:56 AM
Lauther will miss it!  I sense Milo vibes

Nice going Gino.  $300k and that's the best you can do?
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:13:20 AMI don't know, they may start trading haymakers.  Might be a high-yardage game.
Looks like it!
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 12:30:42 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 12:24:56 AMLauther will miss it!  I sense Milo vibes

Nice going Gino.  $300k and that's the best you can do?
Just bad luck for Gino. His best response will be to come out in the second half in beast mode.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 12:42:19 AM
Kate Beirness and Jim Barker are awful together but Barker is the worst by far. The man needs to find a different line of work.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 12:59:24 AM
Nice response by Gino Lewis and the Elks.

MBT needs to keep throwing the ball until Sask backs off the line of scrimmage while they play to stop the run. Then the running game will open up for them again.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:08:35 AM
Elks D need to come up with a stop. Riders are scoring at will. The winner of this game might be whoever has the ball last.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: markf on October 06, 2024, 01:09:12 AM
That's sask td pass to no. 3 would have been a pick v. Bombers secondary.

Something odd about Sask team,

Been jerks for years players change, coaches change, but they continue to have attitude, and be jerks
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:18:44 AM
Quote from: markf on October 06, 2024, 01:09:12 AMThat's sask td pass to no. 3 would have been a pick v. Bombers secondary.

Something odd about Sask team,

Been jerks for years players change, coaches change, but they continue to have attitude, and be jerks
Absolutely true. Lots of jerks on that team.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: markf on October 06, 2024, 01:26:25 AM
Pelley got some girth
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:29:52 AM
This Elks team is just too undisciplined and poorly coached. JJ has to be better than to waste his challenge flag on something that can't be challenged. They then follow that up with mass confusion and too many men on the field. Hard to win like that.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 06, 2024, 01:33:32 AM
Quote from: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:29:52 AMThis Elks team is just too undisciplined and poorly coached. JJ has to be better than to waste his challenge flag on something that can't be challenged. They then follow that up with mass confusion and too many men on the field. Hard to win like that.

That was an ugly stretch for the Elks but they're still giving the Riders everything they can handle. Far from over.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:37:29 AM
Well, his hand is under that ball. Should be a TD. Riders will cry if it's not overturned.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:42:14 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 06, 2024, 01:33:32 AMThat was an ugly stretch for the Elks but they're still giving the Riders everything they can handle. Far from over.
You make a good point. Riders haven't been able to put away a team we easily defeated twice. With that FG all they need is a TD to potentially win this game IF their D can make a stop or better yet, create a turnover.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 01:45:07 AM
Had to make dinner... just catching up now.  Gino TD: convert no good.  That might come back to bite them.

Bede trying to another coaching staff fired??  Jeez, Jarius should slip him a G-note before every kick to keep him on-side.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:49:24 AM
Well, they got the turnover on an INT but couldn't do anything with it and had to punt it back to Sask. Need to make a stop now.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 02:02:20 AM
Quote from: markf on October 06, 2024, 01:26:25 AMPelley got some girth

Noticed that when we played them.  Dude is a natural OL, lol; could easily step in if they lose too many OL.  I've been watching him to see how effective he is.  He can get good push but he sucks at speed and redirection.  I bet he's good at washing off blocks though.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 06, 2024, 02:02:30 AM
Could have easily went the other way but the Riders get it done! Going to be an exciting final two weeks.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 02:06:31 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 06, 2024, 02:02:30 AMCould have easily went the other way but the Riders get it done! Going to be an exciting final two weeks.
The Bombers still have four chances to clinch first place. A win against the Argos or a Rider loss to the Lions next week will do it for us. I like our chances either way.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 02:18:12 AM
Quote from: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:37:29 AMWell, his hand is under that ball. Should be a TD. Riders will cry if it's not overturned.

I call that a catch.  You can't see exactly where his hand is underneath it, so I don't see how they overturn the call on the field.  It looked good enough to me and his hand stayed in the same place relative to the ball the whole time.

Maybe that little finger waggle he did was the deciding factor.

P.S. The officials said it wasn't a TD on the field, so there is no "review every scoring play" -- there was no score.  The "potential scoring play" thing only applies in the last 3 mins.  Refs screwed up again: SSK should have been forced to challenge.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: dd on October 06, 2024, 02:24:29 AM
Quote from: J5V on October 06, 2024, 01:29:52 AMThis Elks team is just too undisciplined and poorly coached. JJ has to be better than to waste his challenge flag on something that can't be challenged. They then follow that up with mass confusion and too many men on the field. Hard to win like that.
Face it, the Elks are a gong show. Confusion is their middle name, too many men penalties indicate teams that are really in bad shape organization wise. They really need to get their crap together and Jackson isn't the one to lead them next season, he's clueless.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 02:26:16 AM
Bombers are at home next game to face the Argos and the game is meaningful for both clubs as there are playoff implications at stake. Our last loss came from the Argos in overtime at BMO field. Time for some payback.

BC has to go to Regina to play the Riders next week and the Riders hold a one point lead over the Lions so it's an important game for both clubs. A BC win would put BC into second place and hosting the WSF. A Rider win would lock up second place for the Riders and they'd host the WSF.

Lots at stake.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 02:33:54 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 02:18:12 AMI call that a catch.  You can't see exactly where his hand is underneath it, so I don't see how they overturn the call on the field.  It looked good enough to me and his hand stayed in the same place relative to the ball the whole time.

Maybe that little finger waggle he did was the deciding factor.

P.S. The officials said it wasn't a TD on the field, so there is no "review every scoring play" -- there was no score.  The "potential scoring play" thing only applies in the last 3 mins.  Refs screwed up again: SSK should have been forced to challenge.
Right. Then the Elks got screwed on the Corey Mace challenge for PI where the Sask receivers ran what looked like a pick on the Elk defender. JJ had wasted his challenge flag earlier and it may have cost his team the game.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 06, 2024, 02:44:08 AM
Well, that's a sucky outcome, but pretty much expected.  EDM already demoralized knowing playoffs were just a dream.  Even Gino screwing up... not a good look.  Gittens had a chance to allow them to win the game just by securing the ball.  Give Demski a call, he'll set you straight.

We must now keep the gas fully on.  It is critical we lock up 1st.  SSK has an easier schedule.  BC has been sucking, and they play in hostile SSK, so can't count on them to help us.

It would be nice to get more weeks off and more rest, so I don't want to be forced to count on us beating MTL in MTL.  SSK is still fully in the hunt for 1st and we don't want them getting a glimmer of hope.  All of their fans have resigned themselves to being 2nd or 3rd, so let's keep it that way.

On the bright side, SSK was looking really bad and EDM could have easily won had they not been a badly coached team.  We're clearly the far better team when compared to the playoff rivals SSK & BC.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: towelie on October 06, 2024, 04:43:41 AM
There's a good chance Mtl rests some guys the last game IMO. Also a good chance we can win this week too. We have the tiebreaker with BC. We definitely shouldn't let up but I'm feeling pretty good about us hosting the West final right now *knocks on wood*

Hopefully the Riders have an off game this week and just put it to rest
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 06, 2024, 05:25:02 AM
Quote from: dd on October 06, 2024, 02:24:29 AMFace it, the Elks are a gong show. Confusion is their middle name, too many men penalties indicate teams that are really in bad shape organization wise. They really need to get their crap together and Jackson isn't the one to lead them next season,he's clueless.

True enough, imagine having a talented QB like Tre Ford at your disposal and finding no way to make use of his talent in a do or die situation like tonight.  Using the combo of Ford and MBT in the same game could have confused the Riders enough to make a difference in the outcome. Jackson is too old school, they need some new blood to bring in new ideas to work with the talent they have in house. Sincerely hope the Elks get back on track next season and make the playoffs, for the good of the franchise and the league.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: bunker on October 06, 2024, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: J5V on October 06, 2024, 02:33:54 AMRight. Then the Elks got screwed on the Corey Mace challenge for PI where the Sask receivers ran what looked like a pick on the Elk defender. JJ had wasted his challenge flag earlier and it may have cost his team the game.
I also wondered about a pick on that play. Stearns seems to hold up and let Emilus go by, then "accidentally" runs right into Jackson.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 06, 2024, 10:13:51 PM
Quote from: bunker on October 06, 2024, 09:47:32 PMI also wondered about a pick on that play. Stearns seems to hold up and let Emilus go by, then "accidentally" runs right into Jackson.
It's a set play and the Riders have gotten away with this crap before. They did it against us too in Regina and the officials bought it hook, line, and sinker.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 07, 2024, 02:35:54 AM
Quote from: J5V on October 06, 2024, 10:13:51 PMIt's a set play and the Riders have gotten away with this crap before. They did it against us too in Regina and the officials bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Ya, just like the mugging play.  This was a mugging too, but an elaborate mugging-pick that the D had zero chance of avoiding.

Need to watch for that if we face them in the playoffs.  The solution if they're crossing is maybe the D's trade guys instead of getting picked.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: J5V on October 07, 2024, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 07, 2024, 02:35:54 AMYa, just like the mugging play.  This was a mugging too, but an elaborate mugging-pick that the D had zero chance of avoiding.

Need to watch for that if we face them in the playoffs.  The solution if they're crossing is maybe the D's trade guys instead of getting picked.
What annoys me is that the Command Centre looked at it and called PI instead of a pick when the Sask receiver clearly runs into the DB, not the other way around. What makes it so obvious is the way Trevor Harris throws the ball into the area. He is obviously not throwing to a receiver. Just throws to the ground in the area and immediately starts ******** at the officials. So friggin obvious.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: ichabod_crane on October 07, 2024, 01:09:17 PM
Riders have pulled that stunt of running into the db to get a call late in games MANY TIMES this year. Some greasy stuff that the officials ALWAYS get sucked into calling!  Believe we had a thread on this a few games ago. Would be a called a PICK play or similar in prior days. 
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 07, 2024, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on October 07, 2024, 01:09:17 PMRiders have pulled that stunt of running into the db to get a call late in games MANY TIMES this year. Some greasy stuff that the officials ALWAYS get sucked into calling!  Believe we had a thread on this a few games ago. Would be a called a PICK play or similar in prior days. 

We reached the same conclusion previously, it's a play Mace learned from Dickenson when he coached in Cgy.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 08, 2024, 04:55:21 AM
They really need to better define the "stand your ground" rule regarding DBs and these muggings.  DBs are supposed to be entitled to their "space".  The problem is standing in their space can still impede a R intent on crashing into him for flags.
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: theaardvark on October 08, 2024, 03:56:39 PM
So, a DB can't "take a charge" in the way a basketball defender would?
Title: Re: Riders at Elks GDT Sat 600PM CT
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 08, 2024, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 08, 2024, 04:55:21 AMThey really need to better define the "stand your ground" rule regarding DBs and these muggings.  DBs are supposed to be entitled to their "space".  The problem is standing in their space can still impede a R intent on crashing into him for flags.

The tell is these plays always happen late in games in critical situations for some reason.