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Title: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Pigskin on September 28, 2024, 07:04:54 PM
This game will be no walk in the park. Hamilton is playing well right and are looking for a playoff spot. 
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 28, 2024, 08:44:52 PM
Agreed BLM is suddenly good again. DBs will be tested. Willie and DL need to get in Howdie Doodie's face early.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: ichabod_crane on September 28, 2024, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 28, 2024, 08:44:52 PMAgreed BLM is suddenly good again. DBs will be tested. Willie and DL need to get in Howdie Doodie's face early.

Howdy Doody? Did former Eskimos WR Brian Kelly come out of retirement at 65 years old?! He's the only CFL player I recall being called Howdy Doody! :D Bo Levi is not even close in resemblance.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on September 28, 2024, 10:27:24 PM
Good Bo and it's a barn burner of a game (high scoring), bad Bo and we burn their barn down
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: dd on September 28, 2024, 11:23:45 PM
This game shouldn't even be close but stranger things have happened before
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 29, 2024, 06:58:21 AM
HAM @ Tim Hortons used to be a tougher environment... those usually reliable fans have really been staying at home for most of this season of bad early suckage.

HAM is a very strange beast this season and it's hard to figure them out.  I'll leave it to Buck/Younger to figure them out in the next few days.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: bwiser on September 29, 2024, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on September 28, 2024, 07:04:54 PMThis game will be no walk in the park. Hamilton is playing well right and are looking for a playoff spot. 
Thats what we were saying about the Elks before the Bombers brought them back to earth.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Jesse on September 29, 2024, 01:56:36 PM
In a way, we're tailor made for BLM these days as we're not getting too much pressure and he needs that time to pick apart a D.

But he's also a bit of a chucker and our DBs might have a hey day if he's not allowed to sit back for too long.

All comes down to the Offence and if they can have half the performance they just did against the Elks.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: John T. on September 29, 2024, 02:00:03 PM
It pains me to say that if all of their remaining games, this is the "trap" game, the one the Bombers are most likely to lose, and when we say it shouldn't be close, we're right, but not in the way we think.

For several years in a row now, when the Bombers have been dominating, they have consistently lost in Hamilton, every year, and looked bad doing it. I was at the game in Hamilton two years ago, and although it was a great time, it was as bad as the Bombers got that season. I don't know what it is, but Hamilton brings out their worst.

I hope I'm wrong this year.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 29, 2024, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Jesse on September 29, 2024, 01:56:36 PMIn a way, we're tailor made for BLM these days as we're not getting too much pressure and he needs that time to pick apart a D.

But he's also a bit of a chucker and our DBs might have a hey day if he's not allowed to sit back for too long.

All comes down to the Offence and if they can have half the performance they just did against the Elks.

Playing Bo is a bit like playing Collaros. Not super mobile. Likes the deeper passing game. The key will be to bring some creative pressures to move him off the spot and otherwise drop 9, try to win with three to get off the field sometimes, and get a few good shots on him. Oh yeah, and don't let Tim White go crazy.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 29, 2024, 03:48:03 PM
Quote from: John T. on September 29, 2024, 02:00:03 PMIt pains me to say that if all of their remaining games, this is the "trap" game, the one the Bombers are most likely to lose, and when we say it shouldn't be close, we're right, but not in the way we think.

For several years in a row now, when the Bombers have been dominating, they have consistently lost in Hamilton, every year, and looked bad doing it. I was at the game in Hamilton two years ago, and although it was a great time, it was as bad as the Bombers got that season. I don't know what it is, but Hamilton brings out their worst.

I hope I'm wrong this year.

My exact worry, recent seasons trips to Hamilton have produced inexplicable results for the Bombers even when dominating the league standings.  Easy to see them coming out flat and laying an egg coming off their best performance of the season.

As for BLM's recent return to past form, after listening to Joe Rogan preach the other night, no evidence but I have to believe he may have undergone stem cell therapy to repair damaged tissue, with remarkable results.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 29, 2024, 04:01:57 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 29, 2024, 03:48:03 PMMy exact worry, recent seasons trips to Hamilton have produced inexplicable results for the Bombers even when dominating the league standings.  Easy to see them coming out flat and laying an egg coming off their best performance of the season.

As for BLM's recent return to past form, after listening to Joe Rogan preach the other night, no evidence but I have to believe he may have undergone stem cell therapy to repair damaged tissue, with remarkable results.

Not this time. Bombers know how important their last 3 games are in securing 1st place. Tight race. We'll bring our own " hammer " to the hammer to pound in several nails. :)
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: dd on September 29, 2024, 05:16:40 PM
Glad BLM has found his mojo again and regained his respect and dignity and cooled talks of Powell starting over him.

I hear what other posters are saying--we've laid our share of eggs in Hamilton in the past seasons, but I don't see it happening here, Bombers are trending in the right direction, whereas Montreal and BC are struggling. BC is a mess, they are struggling paying a high priced Qb to sit there and watch another high priced Qb lose games for them
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: The Zipp on September 30, 2024, 04:20:51 PM
I am glad Hamilton won this week...more prooof that the Bombers can't go in there are sleepwalk to victory...they played terrible when Hamilton was here last. 
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 30, 2024, 05:22:45 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on September 30, 2024, 04:20:51 PMI am glad Hamilton won this week...more prooof that the Bombers can't go in there are sleepwalk to victory...they played terrible when Hamilton was here last. 

They seem to play terrible in hamilton on a yearly basis as well.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: theaardvark on September 30, 2024, 06:32:28 PM
So, we get EDM who had won 5 of 6, now we get HAM, who have won their last 4... 

I've heard of teams being slump busters, but can we be the rush busters?  Keep throwing the hottest teams at us, and we mow them down?

Yes, a little cocky, but the team is clicking on all cylinders, and we still have 10 on the 6 game, half of them starters.


Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: 55StickCar on October 01, 2024, 03:01:44 AM
Win this and a Sask loss and I believe we end up first in the West.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 01, 2024, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: 55StickCar on October 01, 2024, 03:01:44 AMWin this and a Sask loss and I believe we end of first in the West.

Win 1 and BC can't touch us.
Win 2 and no one can touch us.

If we lose vs HAM and SSK/BC win, then the math changes slightly.

So let's all root for CGY (vomit!) and EDM!!  Go Treestumps and Quadrupeds!

If we win vs HAM it will also give CGY/EDM hope in their games, which come after ours, because keeping HAM down keeps alive the W->E crossover!

1 & 0!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 01, 2024, 09:02:05 AM
Hey, have we played in HAM since the GC loss?  I don't think so?

One would think our guys who were there for that will want to take out some anger on that field.  Bag some catharsis!  (Or maybe that's just my feelings/desire?? LOL)
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Jesse on October 01, 2024, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 01, 2024, 09:02:05 AMHey, have we played in HAM since the GC loss?  I don't think so?

One would think our guys who were there for that will want to take out some anger on that field.  Bag some catharsis!  (Or maybe that's just my feelings/desire?? LOL)

I don't understand this comment, techno. Have we played Ham since losing in the GC to Montreal?

Where's the catharsis?
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 01, 2024, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Jesse on October 01, 2024, 10:44:15 AMI don't understand this comment, techno. Have we played Ham since losing in the GC to Montreal?

Where's the catharsis?

Yes.  Even though it's not vs MTL, you can still have emotions stepping back on that particular field.  I remember some of the guys talking about that in pressers last year when going back to Mosaic for the first time after losing to TOR in GC @SSK.

I was at the '23 GC, and I would feel a bit weird going into that stadium if I followed them there for this game.  Going in there and dominating on that field would be cathartic for me, even though it's the wrong team.... probably more so than clobbering (the "real team") MTL in the final game of the reg season!

(And I just have this strange feeling it'll be WPGvTOR in the GC this year...)
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: 55StickCar on October 01, 2024, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 01, 2024, 09:00:33 AMWin 1 and BC can't touch us.
Win 2 and no one can touch us.

If we lose vs HAM and SSK/BC win, then the math changes slightly.

So let's all root for CGY (vomit!) and EDM!!  Go Treestumps and Quadrupeds!

If we win vs HAM it will also give CGY/EDM hope in their games, which come after ours, because keeping HAM down keeps alive the W->E crossover!

1 & 0!
Is it not true that if we win we go to 10-6. Saskatchewan loses they go to 7-8-1. With 2 games left they would only be able to get 19 points.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Jesse on October 01, 2024, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 01, 2024, 10:59:54 AMYes.  Even though it's not vs MTL, you can still have emotions stepping back on that particular field.  I remember some of the guys talking about that in pressers last year when going back to Mosaic for the first time after losing to TOR in GC @SSK.

I was at the '23 GC, and I would feel a bit weird going into that stadium if I followed them there for this game.  Going in there and dominating on that field would be cathartic for me, even though it's the wrong team.... probably more so than clobbering (the "real team") MTL in the final game of the reg season!

(And I just have this strange feeling it'll be WPGvTOR in the GC this year...)

Because the game is IN Hamilton.

Now I get it. Went right over my head.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 01, 2024, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Jesse on October 01, 2024, 02:26:35 PMBecause the game is IN Hamilton.

Now I get it. Went right over my head.

Still though. The connection is a bit of a stretch. Maybe they'll stomp extra hard on the turf to really show that field who's boss?
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Jesse on October 01, 2024, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 01, 2024, 04:17:19 PMStill though. The connection is a bit of a stretch. Maybe they'll stomp extra hard on the turf to really show that field who's boss?

Yeah, I don't agree with it. But I just didn't realize the connection he was trying to make.

I had forgotten the GC was in Hammy.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: J5V on October 01, 2024, 08:07:52 PM
Quote from: 55StickCar on October 01, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIs it not true that if we win we go to 10-6. Saskatchewan loses they go to 7-8-1. With 2 games left they would only be able to get 19 points.
That is correct.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on October 01, 2024, 08:48:37 PM
Couple guys nicked up :(
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on October 01, 2024, 09:27:48 PM
Wallace back is good news. Lucky has been on the report for the last three or four weeks. Adams and Haba are new but with three games to go we've got three guys not practicing that's pretty darn good. It's not like the 6-game is overflowing.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on October 01, 2024, 10:11:33 PM
Party on garth, Selkirk style
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on October 02, 2024, 12:16:06 AM
Some of those not practising might just be slight nicks and rest. We'll see how that goes. Whitehead hasn't practised for a few weeks and still plays.

Not sure what the status of Haba and Adams will turn out to be? Have to see if they get any reps tomorrow. It's a short practice week.

Wallace and Feltmate at " full " so we might see them return. I like the idea of a 7th OL.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: ichabod_crane on October 02, 2024, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: John T. on September 29, 2024, 02:00:03 PMIt pains me to say that if all of their remaining games, this is the "trap" game, the one the Bombers are most likely to lose, and when we say it shouldn't be close, we're right, but not in the way we think.

For several years in a row now, when the Bombers have been dominating, they have consistently lost in Hamilton, every year, and looked bad doing it. I was at the game in Hamilton two years ago, and although it was a great time, it was as bad as the Bombers got that season. I don't know what it is, but Hamilton brings out their worst.

I hope I'm wrong this year.


Have you ever been to Hamilton? For the most part it's a dump! Lots of derelict areas of old steel plants. Not exactly a tourist spot unless you use it to go to Niagara Falls or the Big Smoke/Hogtown! ;) They may have cleaned up the waterfront now though so that might be worthwhile to see.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: ichabod_crane on October 02, 2024, 12:39:08 AM
Quote from: dd on September 29, 2024, 05:16:40 PMGlad BLM has found his mojo again and regained his respect and dignity and cooled talks of Powell starting over him.


Hate to bring this quote up.... "They know who we are!"! :D Some people on here like sour grapes. Get over it! ;)  Still don't see this being denigrating to the Bombers....maybe it jacked them up to finally beat the Stamps in that 2019 playoff game....just a player confident in his team....Maybe a bit cocky, but whatever. Anyone remember early 1980 Edmonton Oilers with Messier and Anderson.....EXTREMELY COCKY! I actually HATED them as it was over the top. Way beyond what Bo was. Kings and Islanders gave them a few shakedowns in early playoff rungs before they learnt what being real professionals was about. Even Gretzky was a bit cocky in those years and always crying for a penalty! ;) After they got their clocks cleaned in a few playoff series in the early 1980's did I pull for them as a Canadian team. Also the years when Jets had futile success against them!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 02, 2024, 06:22:56 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 01, 2024, 04:17:19 PMStill though. The connection is a bit of a stretch. Maybe they'll stomp extra hard on the turf to really show that field who's boss?

Stomp that turf!  Darn hammy turf!

Were you at the 2 GC losses?  I was.  It hurts man.  And you don't like the place you were in when it happened.  Again, it's not just me, BB pressers had players talking about this feeling going back to Mosaic last year.  I bet some players feel that way this week... maybe they'll talk about it in pressers or on TSN.

Going back and kickin' butt might help finally shed that feeling so they can be a tabula rasa for this year's GC.  And if you think the Bombers don't still sting from the last loss, MOS just mentioned it again in (I think) last week's post-game.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on October 02, 2024, 06:26:00 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on October 02, 2024, 12:31:29 AMHave you ever been to Hamilton? For the most part it's a dump! Lots of derelict areas of old steel plants.

I did a LOT of walking around downtown HAM where all the GC festival stuff was last year and it was pretty nice and clean and quaint.  Reminded me of EDM with tons of blocks of low-rise or single story shops & restaurants.

I had a great time in HAM and would happily return there for another game should the need arise.
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on October 02, 2024, 09:53:24 PM
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Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: dd on October 02, 2024, 10:03:55 PM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on October 02, 2024, 12:39:08 AMHate to bring this quote up.... "They know who we are!"! :D Some people on here like sour grapes. Get over it! ;)  Still don't see this being denigrating to the Bombers....maybe it jacked them up to finally beat the Stamps in that 2019 playoff game....just a player confident in his team....Maybe a bit cocky, but whatever. Anyone remember early 1980 Edmonton Oilers with Messier and Anderson.....EXTREMELY COCKY! I actually HATED them as it was over the top. Way beyond what Bo was. Kings and Islanders gave them a few shakedowns in early playoff rungs before they learnt what being real professionals was about. Even Gretzky was a bit cocky in those years and always crying for a penalty! ;) After they got their clocks cleaned in a few playoff series in the early 1980's did I pull for them as a Canadian team. Also the years when Jets had futile success against them!
Ya, that was a young and very cocky BLM....injuries and age have given him maturity to be more humble now. I too massively hated the young BLM, but like the more mature and respectful version. That said, we'd better hammer them in the Hammer this weekend!!
Title: Re: Winnipeg @ Hamilton Pregame Discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on October 03, 2024, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on October 02, 2024, 12:16:06 AMSome of those not practising might just be slight nicks and rest. We'll see how that goes. Whitehead hasn't practised for a few weeks and still plays.

Not sure what the status of Haba and Adams will turn out to be? Have to see if they get any reps tomorrow. It's a short practice week.

Wallace and Feltmate at " full " so we might see them return. I like the idea of a 7th OL.
Haba and Adams hopefully are ok, don't need them nicked late.  Agree on 7th OL.  Will be nice to health on OL and FB.