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Title: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 22, 2024, 11:21:49 AM
This one likely to be a slobber knocker. Troops need to come out firing erasing any hope for the EEs.

More Brady ball is the order to me.

I'd like to see improved tackling on D.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 22, 2024, 01:14:44 PM
I think with the home crowd, this becomes an easier game for the Bombers. We seem to have found a great formula on defence, expect for the run game defence. That said, teams need to win in their passing game and we're shutting down all comers.

A 2nd week with Wheatfall added to the offence and a few tweaks we should improve our output. He had a pretty good game.

It did look like he may have run a wrong route when he was in the same area on Wilson's TD. I'm not sure whether that was an intended play but it didn't appear that way.

Anybody notice his work in blocking situations?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: bwiser on September 22, 2024, 03:32:16 PM
I think its important to lay a beating on the Elks at home because I think it may be the Elks who the Bombers will meet in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pigskin on September 22, 2024, 03:47:58 PM
We have to do a much better job at stopping the run. D gave up 195 yards rushing, far to much. DL will have to make a few more plays, 5 DTs is just not enough.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: ModAdmin on September 22, 2024, 04:21:00 PM
For whatever reason, we had trouble tackling in that game.  Something that needs correcting.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on September 22, 2024, 04:22:26 PM
We will smoke em

They will play QB switch up game

Limit the run

Brady bully ball in order
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: bomb squad on September 22, 2024, 04:51:23 PM
I believe we will clinch a playoff spot with a win Friday.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 22, 2024, 05:42:47 PM
Going to be another great game. Edmonton will be playing for their playoffs and the Bombers trying to lock up a home playoff game. Plenty to play for.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pete on September 22, 2024, 06:24:25 PM
Don't forget about Leake , elks turnaround coincided with adding him to the backfield. With Wilson coming out I wonder if Cole is ready?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 23, 2024, 01:47:18 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 22, 2024, 01:14:44 PMIt did look like he may have run a wrong route when he was in the same area on Wilson's TD. I'm not sure whether that was an intended play but it didn't appear that way.

Nope, it was designed.  I noted it at the time in GDT.  It was a very novel, and successful design.  Watch his demeanor when he sees Pokey get the ball... it's "initiate block mode!", not "what do I do now I'm not supposed to be here!".

It's the craziest play I've seen in forever from any team: 2 Rs basically wide open, close together, and one can lead-block.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 23, 2024, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: ModAdmin on September 22, 2024, 04:21:00 PMFor whatever reason, we had trouble tackling in that game.  Something that needs correcting.

Ya, but did you see that Rankin kid?  He's like a tiny wad of greased muscle, and he was in full Armstead mode.  Our guys were sure trying, and much of the time we had the holes covered, but he would squeeze through their arms.  And just bumping him didn't do anything.

I get what you're saying, but easier said than done!  In any event, the rematch will be vs MBT and EDM will use a less run-heavy gameplan.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: M.O.A.B. on September 23, 2024, 03:28:27 AM
Need to knock any remaining hopes of the Elks.
Then, maybe Walters can pry Simon to leave one of their Canadian OL in town. :D
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on September 23, 2024, 04:03:21 AM
Quote from: bomb squad on September 22, 2024, 04:51:23 PMI believe we will clinch a playoff spot with a win Friday.

Yup, a win will clinch a playoff spot. Edmonton and Calgary wouldn't be able to catch Winnipeg.

The best Hamilton can do is tie the Bombers however they would need to finish with more points to knock the Bombers out with the cross over.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 23, 2024, 03:18:17 PM
I think the defense has another monster game on Friday. Crowd noise should help, too.

Wouldn't shock me if Oliveira goes off for another 100+ yards and gets in the chicken box again.

Sad I'm going to miss it but I'll be looking forward to the highlights!
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: M.O.A.B. on September 23, 2024, 05:57:27 PM
I would think we see MBT starting this time and occassional dose of Tre.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 23, 2024, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: Pete on September 22, 2024, 06:24:25 PMDon't forget about Leake , elks turnaround coincided with adding him to the backfield. With Wilson coming out I wonder if Cole is ready?

Leake was on the 1 game IR so it's not certain whether he can play this week. He was reported as not football related. That could mean anything from the flu or a non illness but family issue.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: blue_or_die on September 23, 2024, 06:25:47 PM
I was expecting us to lose the game in Edmonton and then have to absolutely win this week. Having won last weekend takes quite a bit of pressure off, And I think we can get it done with the home crowd behind them. That would complete the season series on all the western teams Which puts us in prime position as we go towards that first place finish and get that bye.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pigskin on September 23, 2024, 08:11:39 PM
Looking forward to practice tomorrow.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: bunker on September 23, 2024, 10:28:05 PM
Edmonton has a good O-line and like us likes to run heavy sets with 6-7 O-linemen, which resulted in some mismatches in the box since we were often only playing 3 linemen with 2 genuine linebackers and 7 db's. That accounted for some of their run success.

But on rewatching, a significant amount of their running success was due to Ford, who was able to freeze the DE's wide (Willy in particular) on the read option, creating space for Rankin. If they play MBT this week, we should find it easier to stop the run.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: dd on September 23, 2024, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: bunker on September 23, 2024, 10:28:05 PMEdmonton has a good O-line and like us likes to run heavy sets with 6-7 O-linemen, which resulted in some mismatches in the box since we were often only playing 3 linemen with 2 genuine linebackers and 7 db's. That accounted for some of their run success.

But on rewatching, a significant amount of their running success was due to Ford, who was able to freeze the DE's wide (Willy in particular) on the read option, creating space for Rankin. If they play MBT this week, we should find it easier to stop the run.
If they start MBT, we'll kill them. Ford gave them a chance as like you said, his run threat opened up space for others. MBT will be picked off repeatedly by our secondary. If I'm Edmonton, I start Ford...
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on September 23, 2024, 10:42:48 PM
The game should be announced as a sell-out at any time now.

Just single tickets remaining.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: peg_city on September 24, 2024, 12:22:51 AM
Get on your feet, bomber fans
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 24, 2024, 01:13:39 AM
Quote from: bunker on September 23, 2024, 10:28:05 PMEdmonton has a good O-line and like us likes to run heavy sets with 6-7 O-linemen, which resulted in some mismatches in the box since we were often only playing 3 linemen with 2 genuine linebackers and 7 db's. That accounted for some of their run success.

I rewatched to see what they were doing and it's just their 7 OL (or TE) bullying our guys around.  They were getting OL on DBs and creaming them.  They were holding like mad in the mayhem.  They were driving DBs down the field next to the carrier in a semi-illegal holding/pushing manner.

They were showing sets where the 7th OL was in the FB position, but then just became another OL after the snap.

Our game plan is not to stop runs at the line: we plan on the LBers and DBs coming up and filling the holes.  But when every hole has a hoggie road-grading, that plan fails.  EDM is getting more numbers in there than we are, and they are out-sizing us at every level.

I'm not sure what the solution is.  But I know brawn isn't the answer.  Need some high-brain answer.  Is it legal for team B to low-block in the box (one on one of course)?  Maybe we need to start cutting some hoggies down when they first start the run play.  Make them think a little.

It's funny, if EDM had stuck to the plan and just thrown a lot less, I think they could have won that game, or at least been closer.  They were destroying us with the run and we had no answer, even with a couple of good at-LoS tackles.

Quote from: bunker on September 23, 2024, 10:28:05 PMBut on rewatching, a significant amount of their running success was due to Ford, who was able to freeze the DE's wide (Willy in particular) on the read option, creating space for Rankin. If they play MBT this week, we should find it easier to stop the run.

Yes, but I don't think the RBs ever broke contain on Willie.  I think Ford did 1-2 times when Willie was being washed/held by OL, but it's impossible to win 100% of those battles.  Willie's job was to contain (and lane block / pass knockdown), and he did it.  If it meant the RB snuck through his gap, that was the plan.

Against MBT it will be a completely different plan.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 24, 2024, 01:14:44 PM
Quote from: peg_city on September 24, 2024, 12:22:51 AMGet on your feet, bomber fans

What about those of us who are already on their feet?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 24, 2024, 01:20:08 PM
Another sell out! Wow just wow.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 24, 2024, 01:22:12 PM
CFL Power Rankings ahead of week 17: https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/24/amsoil-power-rankings-a-land-of-opportunity/

1. WPG
2. MTL
3. EDM
4. HAM
5. OTT
6. TOR
7. BC
8. SSK
9. CGY
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 01:45:33 PM
Elks release O'Neal after his ejection last Saturday.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 24, 2024, 01:56:09 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 01:45:33 PMElks release O'Neal after his ejection last Saturday.

He kind of got baited into that one but I suppose that sends a strong message. He was having a pretty decent rookie year, had a few starts at strong side linebacker and started at Texas A&M. Wonder if he ends up anywhere else. The Riders love guys that are hard to coach.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: kkc60 on September 24, 2024, 02:12:14 PM
Bombers need to bring in Adams for next week, especially if MBT plays. Gotta keep the DTs fresh and stop the run. Last week was inexcusable
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 24, 2024, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: kkc60 on September 24, 2024, 02:12:14 PMBombers need to bring in Adams for next week, especially if MBT plays. Gotta keep the DTs fresh and stop the run. Last week was inexcusable

If Bethal-Thompson is the quarterback it will make run defense a bit easier. Part -- but not all -- of the issue was how wide we lined up to contain Ford. It mostly worked but left us a bit exposed to some of those B and C gap runs. With a traditional quarterback in the game we'll go back to a more traditional defensive front.

Edmonton is in a tricky spot. Don't play Tre Ford down the stretch and he probably tests free agency very seriously. Commit to him now and you probably don't make the playoffs but you keep the player happy.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: theaardvark on September 24, 2024, 03:43:56 PM
How long until ONeal is in Green?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: barbk on September 24, 2024, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on September 24, 2024, 03:43:56 PMHow long until ONeal is in Green?
At the end of the week, Riders love dirty players LOL
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: The Zipp on September 24, 2024, 05:38:50 PM
MBT it is on Friday. 

I do think he is the better QB at the moment
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 06:36:01 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on September 24, 2024, 05:38:50 PMMBT it is on Friday. 

I do think he is the better QB at the moment

Yes but as has been pointed out many times is that the Elks continue to find ways to lose. They haven't found out how to win. Errors, turnovers and discipline issues haunt them

MBT is often a turnover machine.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 24, 2024, 07:11:44 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 06:36:01 PMYes but as has been pointed out many times is that the Elks continue to find ways to lose. They haven't found out how to win. Errors, turnovers and discipline issues haunt them

MBT is often a turnover machine.

Meh, MBT is their best option to win the game and the Elks are fighting for their playoff lives, Ford at this point looks to be a good change of pace QB.

After all the Ford Bros. attention and discussion this past weekend I get the sense they're super close and would love to play together again. I'm sure the Elks would love to retain Tre but don't see him as a #1 yet, so they might hang onto MBT for another year.  Maybe that's reason enough for him to jump ship but not a lot of places to land that would give him the #1 job opportunity, maybe zero.

Tyrell seems to be pretty happy in Wpg. but with the size of Zach's contract there's no room left over for a middling second string QB contract, so unlikely they can play together in Wpg.  Still think they will be the big story of the off-season as they seek to package themselves together to sign with the highest bidder.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: theaardvark on September 24, 2024, 07:17:26 PM
Quote from: The Zipp on September 24, 2024, 05:38:50 PMMBT it is on Friday. 

I do think he is the better QB at the moment

He is the "better" QB, by the stats, but look a BLM and his record.

He is better, but far easier to defend.  Ford bends a defence to his will.  Look at the 3 man front we ran against him, with DE's halfway to the sidelines.  And 2 spies.  If the Elks could have figured out how to take advantage of the D Younger threw at them.. well, last game would have been a different story.

Scheming for MBT will be easier, but will take some adjustment.  Now, should the Elks decide to rotate them, that's a lot of adjustments JY would need to make.

I prefer going against MBT.  He'll never beat you with his legs, or extend plays to the point the D is out of position.

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 24, 2024, 07:11:44 PMMeh, MBT is their best to win the game and the Elks are fighting for their playoff lives, Ford at this point looks to be a good change of pace QB.

After all the Ford Bros. attention and discussion this past weekend I get the sense they're super close and would love to play together again. I'm sure the Elks would love to retain Tre but don't see him as a #1 yet, so they might hang onto MBT for another year.  Maybe that's reason enough for him to jump ship but not a lot of places to land that would give him the #1 job opportunity, maybe zero.

Tyrell seems to be pretty happy in Wpg. but with the size of Zach's contract there's no room left over for a middling second string QB contract, so unlikely they can play together in Wpg.  Still think they will be the big story of the off-season as they seek to package themselves together to sign with the highest bidder.

Its the GC year, $SMS be damned.  If you can get Tre here on a one year deal, or one at $350k and the next with a bump, do it.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pigskin on September 24, 2024, 07:33:30 PM
Typical first day of practice for the week. Lucky, Nick Hallett, both sitting out practice.

94 Adams: Is just a ball of energy. He's so quick, and never stops having fun.
41 Cole: Limited.
19 Wilson: DNP. Wasn't showing any sign of injury. But, he did touch his calf a few times.
83 Schoen: Walking and moving well.  Not running yet.
82 Woli: Running sprints in the end zone.
90 Fox: Full practice.


Lawson: Moving much better this week. Spends a lot of the time working with the OL and DL.

Parker: Still not moving that well.
Wallace: On the field with two knee braces, but did not practice.

48 Wright: Not impressed. Knee braces does move that well.
81 Hart: Good speed, nice hands. Still learning the return game. 

A lot of players on the field. It's like a mini TC.

 
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: peg_city on September 24, 2024, 07:42:59 PM
Do we have anything offical from O'shea or the blue bombers stating the Schoen is done for the year?

I know Dave Naylor mentioned he was, but i haven't heard anything since.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 24, 2024, 08:08:03 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on September 24, 2024, 07:17:26 PMHe is the "better" QB, by the stats, but look a BLM and his record.

He is better, but far easier to defend.  Ford bends a defence to his will.  Look at the 3 man front we ran against him, with DE's halfway to the sidelines.  And 2 spies.  If the Elks could have figured out how to take advantage of the D Younger threw at them.. well, last game would have been a different story.

Scheming for MBT will be easier, but will take some adjustment.  Now, should the Elks decide to rotate them, that's a lot of adjustments JY would need to make.

I prefer going against MBT.  He'll never beat you with his legs, or extend plays to the point the D is out of position.

Its the GC year, $SMS be damned.  If you can get Tre here on a one year deal, or one at $350k and the next with a bump, do it.

Here is LaPo's breakdown of Younger's D against the Elks last weekend. Other than the flea-flicker they played it well.

Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 24, 2024, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: peg_city on September 24, 2024, 07:42:59 PMDo we have anything offical from O'shea or the blue bombers stating the Schoen is done for the year?

I know Dave Naylor mentioned he was, but i haven't heard anything since.

He will be signing autographs this Sunday from noon to 2 pm at the Bombers store. You can ask him yourself!
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: blue_gold_84 on September 24, 2024, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 24, 2024, 08:08:03 PMHere is LaPo's breakdown of Younger's D against the Elks last weekend. Other than the flea-flicker they played it well.



LaPolice is such a beauty.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Jesse on September 24, 2024, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: peg_city on September 24, 2024, 07:42:59 PMDo we have anything offical from O'shea or the blue bombers stating the Schoen is done for the year?

I know Dave Naylor mentioned he was, but i haven't heard anything since.

I wonder why we would hear an update about a player who has been announced as out for the year.

But yes, MOS admitted very early on that Schoen was not coming back (for the year).
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: peg_city on September 24, 2024, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: Jesse on September 24, 2024, 08:46:41 PMI wonder why we would hear an update about a player who has been announced as out for the year.

But yes, MOS admitted very early on that Schoen was not coming back (for the year).

It was Naylor who mentioned it. I didn't think we heard anything from the Bombers

If they are keeping him around, I wonder if they plan on re-signing him
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Jesse on September 24, 2024, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: peg_city on September 24, 2024, 08:48:59 PMIt was Naylor who mentioned it. I didn't think we heard anything from the Bombers

If they are keeping him around, I wonder if they plan on re-signing him

MOS said so himself as well.

I imagine Schoen is obligated to come around as he probably had marketing money in his contract so still has to meet his off field obligations.

I'm sure they want to re-sign him if he's going to recover from his injury.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: M.O.A.B. on September 24, 2024, 09:31:37 PM
Randolph moved to PR

Adams activated
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 09:38:42 PM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on September 24, 2024, 09:31:37 PMRandolph moved to PR

Adams activated

What? We had an extra spot for an import to replace Bighill. Why would we take Randolph off when that would only give us 1 extra OL?

Maybe Vanterpool will be activated for the game.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: theaardvark on September 24, 2024, 09:46:10 PM
Maybe Wallace coming off the IR?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pigskin on September 24, 2024, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on September 24, 2024, 09:46:10 PMMaybe Wallace coming off the IR?

Can't see it. Wallace not even doing drills yet, never mind contact.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pigskin on September 24, 2024, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on September 24, 2024, 09:31:37 PMRandolph moved to PR

Adams activated

I like that Adams has been activated. Adds some speed to our DL.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on September 24, 2024, 09:49:01 PMCan't see it. Wallace not even doing drills yet, never mind contact.

Maybe they're thinking of using Schmekel/Fatboi on short yardage/emergency replacement.  I don't recall seeing Randoplh on many snaps last game other than his procedure penalty.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 10:36:00 PM
Quote from: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 10:05:44 PMMaybe they're thinking of using Schmekel/Fatboi on short yardage/emergency replacement.  I don't recall seeing Randoplh on many snaps last game other than his procedure penalty.

But he went from a starting RG to starting LT to back to the PR. The seems like a good reason to keep him on the AR instead of a Canadian DL is an emergency back up. Randolph must have also been used in a 6 OL set or did Eli get that role last week?

Either way, it still leaves us with an open spot for another import on the AR. If Whitehead is still not 100% they could add Case for more depth. That would ask why not just replace that role to Case if Whitehead is iffy. I know he hasn't practised much for a couple of weeks.

Cole was limited today so he probably doesn't get added. That's what I was expecting but Adams make sense as well.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on September 24, 2024, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 09:38:42 PMWhat? We had an extra spot for an import to replace Bighill. Why would we take Randolph off when that would only give us 1 extra OL?

Maybe Vanterpool will be activated for the game.

Cole was practicing. So that means he will be moving from the 6 game to either the 1 game or onto the game roster.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 10:47:47 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 10:36:00 PMBut he went from a starting RG to starting LT to back to the PR. The seems like a good reason to keep him on the AR instead of a Canadian DL is an emergency back up. Randolph must have also been used in a 6 OL set or did Eli get that role last week?

Either way, it still leaves us with an open spot for another import on the AR. If Whitehead is still not 100% they could add Case for more depth. That would ask why not just replace that role to Case if Whitehead is iffy. I know he hasn't practised much for a couple of weeks.

Cole was limited today so he probably doesn't get added. That's what I was expecting but Adams make sense as well.

Eli got a lot of snaps last game.  I noticed they had him in jumbo and lined up as a full back
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on September 24, 2024, 10:36:55 PMCole was practicing. So that means he will be moving from the 6 game to either the 1 game or onto the game roster.

He was for the last 2 weeks but earlier info in the string said he was " limited " today. I'm not sure what happened or whether that will exclude him.

Then we got the news that Adams was added to the AR. So Cole could be extended, moved to 1 game or still added to AR this week.

Seems like a pending issue until Friday.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 10:47:47 PMEli got a lot of snaps last game.  I noticed they had him in jumbo and lined up as a full back

Either was, Randolph played well when he started and for most of the season we rostered 7 OL.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 10:55:43 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 10:51:50 PMHe was for the last 2 weeks but earlier info in the string said he was " limited " today. I'm not sure what happened or whether that will exclude him.

Then we got the news that Adams was added to the AR. So Cole could be extended, moved to 1 game or still added to AR this week.

Seems like a pending issue until Friday.

I was at practice for a bit.  Didn't see Cole get any snaps with the 1st team D...I think Pigskin also reported that Cole was limited...that's what I observed as well...
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on September 24, 2024, 11:20:16 PM
Cole might have had a "limited" role with the starters but that doesn't mean he isn't fit to play if needed.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYRQWwUW8AAJk2i?format=jpg&name=small)

Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pigskin on September 24, 2024, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 10:55:43 PMI was at practice for a bit.  Didn't see Cole get any snaps with the 1st team D...I think Pigskin also reported that Cole was limited...that's what I observed as well...

Yes, he did a few drills and then not much after that. Usually, he's on the punts coverage team. Not today.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 11:59:21 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on September 24, 2024, 11:20:16 PMCole might have had a "limited" role with the starters but that doesn't mean he isn't fit to play if needed.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYRQWwUW8AAJk2i?format=jpg&name=small)



Fair...it's also the first practise day of the week...so still a chance he draws in...
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 25, 2024, 12:40:44 AM
Quote from: Slingin Sammy on September 24, 2024, 10:47:47 PMEli got a lot of snaps last game.  I noticed they had him in jumbo and lined up as a full back

I noticed a huge man in the backfield a couple of times, strange to use Eli as FB when MCI was dressed. Wonder if MCI is going to become one of these FB's that never touch the ball, I was hoping for more.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on September 25, 2024, 12:48:52 AM
Check your mail before the Bomber game THERE ARE COUPONS!!!!
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 25, 2024, 02:26:27 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 25, 2024, 12:40:44 AMI noticed a huge man in the backfield a couple of times, strange to use Eli as FB when MCI was dressed. Wonder if MCI is going to become one of these FB's that never touch the ball, I was hoping for more.

Early days for Ike.  I wouldn't read too much into how we're playing him at the moment.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 25, 2024, 02:30:02 AM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on September 24, 2024, 09:31:37 PMRandolph moved to PR

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 24, 2024, 10:52:34 PMEither was, Randolph played well when he started and for most of the season we rostered 7 OL.

I guess Mafia is satisfied that Neufeld is back to full form.  He must have been dinged up for many games earlier this season, because he was becoming the weak link.  Our OL & O instantly improved when we put Randolph in at RG.

But Neufeld played very well last game, so maybe we can finally stop worrying about his spot.

I too would find it odd if we only dress 6 OL, because our normal AR is 7.  All our OL injuries this season would tend to make one more cautious.  And we often play sets with all 7.  Ike can help if we only dress 6, but it's not the same.

That said, if we are lucky and there are no OL injuries, the extra DT will really help against pocket-man MBT.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pete on September 25, 2024, 07:29:36 PM
Getting Adams back pretty much gives us the defence most of us wanted other than Wilson who hasn't been available most of the year.
 Offensively other than Clercius in for Wolitarski its pretty positive too
One thing I'd like to see is the offence be less predictable
Other teams have scouted us extensively. Lawlers effectiveness is hampered because defences know his routes and where Zach utilizes him.
On a side note Zach needs to change up his cadence more. Last game when he got sacked on a 3rd and 2 Moncrief just teed off and was in backfield before play could get started.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Tiger on September 25, 2024, 07:37:48 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 25, 2024, 12:48:52 AMCheck your mail before the Bomber game THERE ARE COUPONS!!!!

Nothing yet.  What are they?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 25, 2024, 08:48:49 PM
I see the the Elks daily IR report shows Leakes, Bratton and Cobbs out along with a few others of less importance. They had already release O'Neal so their defence has taken a bit of a hit.

Not having Leakes as either the returner or on offence is good news for the Bombers.

Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: LXTSN on September 25, 2024, 08:54:18 PM
Randolph was great in replacement of both Bryant and Neufeld. He is absolutely a keeper!
If Bryant retires next season we can rest a little easier having Randolph around. It's hard to replace the best to ever do it!
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Tiger on September 26, 2024, 03:20:13 AM
Quote from: LXTSN on September 25, 2024, 08:54:18 PMRandolph was great in replacement of both Bryant and Neufeld. He is absolutely a keeper!
If Bryant retires next season we can rest a little easier having Randolph around. It's hard to replace the best to ever do it!

Randolph is great at either tackle. I have been very impressed and one of our best newcomers, even if he did play at Alabama.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 26, 2024, 05:12:21 AM
Quote from: Tiger on September 26, 2024, 03:20:13 AMRandolph is great at either tackle. I have been very impressed and one of our best newcomers, even if he did play at Alabama.

Randolph is a keeper.  He's the first IMP OL we've had around since Bonds that looked like they could actually be a great OL (ex our 2 longtime starters, of course).  Oh ya, Lofton is doing great, too, but he was always part of the #1 starter plan, unlike Randolph.

But he was best at RG, not LT.  Maybe he can dev into a legit OT, but he's not there yet.  I bet if we lose an OT, it'll be Neuf moving out and Randolph coming into RG.

I like having a guy around that lets us go 3 IMP OL if/when we need to, and our great ratio situation makes it all possible.

P.S. Dobson gets a shoutout too, as he's been very solid in his 1st starting year.  At least as good as expected, maybe better.  Eli has been amazing as 6th / run-block, I love watching him (throw him the ball!!), but I'm not sure he'll be a legit starting guard any time soon.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 26, 2024, 05:14:29 AM
Quote from: Tiger on September 25, 2024, 07:37:48 PMNothing yet.  What are they?

I got my coupons on Tue.  Deals on combos & burgers mostly.  Looks pretty good.  Must kill Shawarma sales the last 2 games though.  Myself, I'll find a way to pack in both over the course of the game (with some help from junior of course).

Does anyone know if this will be the jersey discount game?  They usually have one of those a season, usually the last or second last game.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 26, 2024, 05:15:57 AM
Quote from: Pete on September 25, 2024, 07:29:36 PMZach needs to change up his cadence more. Last game when he got sacked on a 3rd and 2 Moncrief just teed off and was in backfield before play could get started.

They were playing in a modest noise situation in the opponent's stadium.  Ya, it's only EDM, but they were making some noise.  If we did any sort of silent count / OL arm jerk thing, it's easy for the blitzers to time it.

Won't have that problem @PAS!
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 26, 2024, 01:13:22 PM
SOLD OUT. Wow, very impressive.

Is that 5, 6 games sold out this year?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: theaardvark on September 26, 2024, 01:46:31 PM
Randolph to the PR?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: M.O.A.B. on September 26, 2024, 02:06:48 PM
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Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on September 26, 2024, 02:26:37 PM
Ok. As somewhat expected Cole has been added back to the AR along with Adams.

I am a little curious why Samson was moved to the 1 game IR last week instead of keeping him on the PR. Aside from opening 1 more spot on the PR I don't see a benefit. On the 1 game IR, it adds to SMS by $4K per game. This is game 2. It all adds up.

Now Fox added to 1 game IR as well?
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Pete on September 26, 2024, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 26, 2024, 05:15:57 AMThey were playing in a modest noise situation in the opponent's stadium.  Ya, it's only EDM, but they were making some noise.  If we did any sort of silent count / OL arm jerk thing, it's easy for the blitzers to time it.

Won't have that problem @PAS!
Some qbs are good at it ie cadence changeups, Zach doesn't seem to be
Crowd noise wasnt a factor in Edm.
Utilized effectively it may make it at least a little harder to time those blitzes in key situations.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 26, 2024, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 26, 2024, 02:26:37 PMOk. As somewhat expected Cole has been added back to the AR along with Adams.

I am a little curious why Samson was moved to the 1 game IR last week instead of keeping him on the PR. Aside from opening 1 more spot on the PR I don't see a benefit. On the 1 game IR, it adds to SMS by $4K per game. This is game 2. It all adds up.

Now Fox added to 1 game IR as well?

Wow, almost forgot about Miles Fox, plays 2 games and is injured for 6, hopefully he gets the chance to prove his value in the remaining games left, otherwise he won't have a job next season.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 27, 2024, 05:13:52 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 26, 2024, 02:26:37 PMAside from opening 1 more spot on the PR I don't see a benefit. On the 1 game IR, it adds to SMS by $4K per game. This is game 2. It all adds up.

Looking at our 6GIR now, and remembering what it's been like all season, I'm pretty sure we have tons of SMS space right now.  The only real decent-$ add we did was Lucky.

I still want some splash acquisition (maybe WILL or MLB or DL, or Taylor Powell) before the trade deadline!  Though I know it's not the WFC way, sigh.  I guess it will be 2024-bonus money for 2025-contracts with the leftover space come December then.
Title: Re: Elks at Blue Bombers rematch discussion
Post by: LXTSN on September 27, 2024, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 26, 2024, 06:43:32 PMWow, almost forgot about Miles Fox, plays 2 games and is injured for 6, hopefully he gets the chance to prove his value in the remaining games left, otherwise he won't have a job next season.
I honestly don't really see room for Fox in our AR. Woods and Adams have been solid, and Fox hasn't really proven anything to us yet that would make us give him one of those positions.