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Title: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 11, 2024, 10:18:31 PM
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers are signing quarterback Jake Dolegala and Bryan Scott, a source has confirmed to 3DownNation. TSN's Dave Naylor was the first to report the news.

Dolegala was released by the B.C. Lions in mid-August following the team's signing of Nathan Rourke. The six-foot-seven, 242-pound passer started one game for the team earlier this year and completed 14-of-23 pass attempts for 146 yards in a 33-16 loss to the Edmonton Elks.

Scott was released by the Toronto Argonauts in mid-August following the reinstatement of Chad Kelly. He dressed for nine games in a backup role, completing all five of his pass attempts for 79 yards and a touchdown during his team's loss to the Montreal Alouettes in Week 4.

https://3downnation.com/2024/09/11/winnipeg-blue-bombers-to-sign-qbs-jake-dolegala-bryan-scott/
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 11, 2024, 10:20:55 PM
Both good signings. My guess is Dolegala to the number 2 spot and Scott to the soon-to-be-expanded practice roster.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 12, 2024, 11:00:20 AM
Does Dolegala count as a "vet" for vet release deadlines?  Did we just sign a guy we cannot release until FA, even if a better QB comes along?  Or are there special release rules for super late pickups like this?
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 12, 2024, 01:27:50 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 12, 2024, 11:00:20 AMDoes Dolegala count as a "vet" for vet release deadlines?  Did we just sign a guy we cannot release until FA, even if a better QB comes along?  Or are there special release rules for super late pickups like this?


That's a really odd way to look at it. What are you trying to protect? The ability to release one or both a week before the playoffs and save a single game cheque? Why? Who cares?

The Bombers hold most of the cards. They either sign one or both to a one year deal and pay for five games + playoffs at which time they, and all the other players on expiring deals are on equal footing (unless Scott ends up on the PR in which case he's an FA a little earlier). Alternatively, if they like one of both enough, they do a two year deal and bring them to camp in 2025 and let the chips fall where they may.

In my opinion, with Dolegala and Scott, we've got the best QB room since Dru Brown left and it would certainly be in our interest to try and get both players to sign for two years. They still have to make the team in the spring but the learning starts now and over the off-season which is a huge advantage for us heading into a Grey Cup host year. If I was forced to bet, both Dolegala and Scott would beat out Wilson in camp in next year. I don't even think it would be close.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Pete on September 12, 2024, 02:25:17 PM
Makes sense to me, theres a lot of film on Dolegala, they pretty much know what he brings. Scott not so much, but he would appear to have a bigger upside. We'll see who is a better fit.
  I do know Scott outperformed Wilson in preseason in fact Wilson got the backup role basically by default as Barriere was awful
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 12, 2024, 04:36:33 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 12, 2024, 01:27:50 PMThat's a really odd way to look at it. What are you trying to protect? The ability to release one or both a week before the playoffs and save a single game cheque? Why? Who cares?

The Bombers hold most of the cards. They either sign one or both to a one year deal and pay for five games + playoffs at which time they, and all the other players on expiring deals are on equal footing (unless Scott ends up on the PR in which case he's an FA a little earlier). Alternatively, if they like one of both enough, they do a two year deal and bring them to camp in 2025 and let the chips fall where they may.

In my opinion, with Dolegala and Scott, we've got the best QB room since Dru Brown left and it would certainly be in our interest to try and get both players to sign for two years. They still have to make the team in the spring but the learning starts now and over the off-season which is a huge advantage for us heading into a Grey Cup host year. If I was forced to bet, both Dolegala and Scott would beat out Wilson in camp in next year. I don't even think it would be close.

Sounds good, and once Zach retires Dolegala will be ready to step into the starters role......AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH........EEEEEEEKKKKKKK!!!
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: dd on September 12, 2024, 10:19:11 PM
2 good signings...will give us a chance to evaluate, Strev stock slipped this year, will be interested who gets the #2 Qb contract offer in the off season,
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: J5V on September 12, 2024, 11:30:46 PM
 Like what I see here ...

Bryan Scott Highlites (https://youtu.be/k-6CGjY6v5U?feature=shared)
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: markf on September 13, 2024, 12:04:22 AM
Quote from: J5V on September 12, 2024, 11:30:46 PMLike what I see here ...

Bryan Scott Highlites (https://youtu.be/k-6CGjY6v5U?feature=shared)

Sure looks good...... Correct me if I'm wrong, footwork, throwing motion, polished, arm strength accuracy all good.

Latest very smart move by walters?

And thanks!
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: M.O.A.B. on September 13, 2024, 01:54:32 AM
How about this guy?

QB Casey Bauman (N)
CFL rights holder: None

The native of Sumas, Wash. qualified for Canadian citizenship through his B.C.-born mother ahead of the 2024 CFL Draft but got scooped up by an NFL team following a solid showing at the CFL Combine. The six-foot-six, 229-pound passer spent the past two seasons at Augustana University, completing 61.0 percent of his passes for 4,160 yards, 43 touchdowns, and 19 interceptions and rushing for 572 yards and six touchdowns.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: J5V on September 13, 2024, 02:27:02 AM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on September 13, 2024, 01:54:32 AMHow about this guy?

QB Casey Bauman (N)
CFL rights holder: None

The native of Sumas, Wash. qualified for Canadian citizenship through his B.C.-born mother ahead of the 2024 CFL Draft but got scooped up by an NFL team following a solid showing at the CFL Combine. The six-foot-six, 229-pound passer spent the past two seasons at Augustana University, completing 61.0 percent of his passes for 4,160 yards, 43 touchdowns, and 19 interceptions and rushing for 572 yards and six touchdowns.
Sure, why not? Big boy! Throws a nice ball, runs well. But does he have that certain something to qualify him as a bomber? At least he looks good in Blue and Gold! :)
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: J5V on September 13, 2024, 03:30:13 AM
Casey Bauman Hilites (https://youtu.be/03ihnw45YKE?feature=shared)
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2024, 05:47:18 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 12, 2024, 01:27:50 PMThat's a really odd way to look at it. What are you trying to protect? The ability to release one or both a week before the playoffs and save a single game cheque? Why? Who cares?

A PR spot.  If we can't release him he'll rot on the PR wasting a spot we could use for someone else.  Let's say HAM/OTT calls us up tomorrow and offers a trade for Powell/Masoli and only wants like a 2nd RDP for him.  Ya, I'm all over that, but if we can't cut Jake then we're down a PR guy rolling into the post-season.

(Yes, you're right, the $$ doesn't matter at all, not even SMS-$$.)

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 12, 2024, 01:27:50 PMIn my opinion, with Dolegala and Scott, we've got the best QB room since Dru Brown left and it would certainly be in our interest to try and get both players to sign for two years.

I'll take whatever you're smoking!  Dolegala was basically (trying to be PC here) lackluster in SSK and BC and absolutely no one in either fanbase was sad to see him leave.  The only game I remember him winning in SSK was the LDC, though I'm sure he had a couple more.

Now that he's our only hope if Zach goes down, I'll root for the guy and hope for the best.  I really will.  But we have to be realistic.  If Zach goes down and Dolegala starts we're going .250 real fast, and the post-season will be 1'n'done.

And I see no way in heck he's our #2 in 2025 once we get to pick from every FA QB in the league!

Maybe he can keep improving and be a legit #1 in the future (don't bet the farm on it), but that future isn't right now, and all we care about is right now ('24 and '25).

Maybe the secret best thing about this deal is he can give us some debriefs on the BC O, which will probably help come WDF.  The other teams did that to us the last few seasons: it's nice to return the favor.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2024, 05:47:56 AM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on September 13, 2024, 01:54:32 AMQB Casey Bauman (N)

He went undrafted in the CFL??
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 13, 2024, 12:37:33 PM
Great insurance policies now and going forward.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: BlueInCgy on September 13, 2024, 01:17:40 PM
Reading Techno say "we have to be realistic " is pure comedy gold.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 13, 2024, 01:38:35 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2024, 05:47:18 AMI'll take whatever you're smoking!  Dolegala was basically (trying to be PC here) lackluster in SSK and BC and absolutely no one in either fanbase was sad to see him leave.  The only game I remember him winning in SSK was the LDC, though I'm sure he had a couple more.

It's fine to be on record that you don't like a player for whatever reason. Just say you don't like him. No one will fault you for that. But facts are facts:

2023 Jake Dolegala - second year in CFL - 216 of 333 (64.8%), 2641 yards, 11 TDs, 9 INTs
2024 Dru Brown - fourth year in CFL - 230 of 340 (67.6%), 2881 yards, 11 TDs, 5 INTs

I think what Jake Dolegala did in his first chance to start was pretty good all things considered. Not saying he's the second coming of Danny Mac but certainly his numbers are in line with someone who could be good one day.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2024, 04:04:25 PM
Quote from: J5V on September 12, 2024, 11:30:46 PMLike what I see here ...

Bryan Scott Highlites (https://youtu.be/k-6CGjY6v5U?feature=shared)

Maybe this was filmed during Covid but there is literally nobody in the stand in what looks to be a very large stadium. With the struggles the CFL endures making money I don't see how professional football can be sustainable with zero attendance.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: theaardvark on September 13, 2024, 06:25:50 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2024, 04:04:25 PMThere are zero fans watching whatever league this is, seems to be a large stadium with literally nobody in attendance.  Maybe
Maybe this was filmed during Covid but there is literally nobody in the stand in what looks to be a very large stadium. With the struggles the CFL endures making money I don't see how professional football can be sustainable with zero attendance.

In some of these leagues, the QB makes less than our ELC rooks.  And the TV deals would probably be as good on a game by game basis as the CFL...
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2024, 10:13:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 13, 2024, 01:38:35 PMIt's fine to be on record that you don't like a player for whatever reason. Just say you don't like him. No one will fault you for that. But facts are facts:

2023 Jake Dolegala - second year in CFL - 216 of 333 (64.8%), 2641 yards, 11 TDs, 9 INTs
2024 Dru Brown - fourth year in CFL - 230 of 340 (67.6%), 2881 yards, 11 TDs, 5 INTs

Now do wins.  SSK went into heavy downtrend after Trevor got injured and they were forced into Dolegala.  And did he win a single game in BC?  (Maybe 1?)

Yes, he got "Bonner'd": thrust into #1 role prematurely.  Yes, he may get better with time.  Yes, in another 2 years he could be as good as Dru.

None of that matters: what we are trying to do right now is have .500 insurance in place if Zach gets hurt.  My only point is I don't think he'll achieve that.  And right now we don't care about anything more than wins, and a great playoff run.

And that's ok.  As a quick & easy stopgap measure, you could say he's perfect.  But we can't realistically expect him to win the cup for us should that need arise.  I fully expect that if Zach goes down we'll trade for a "real" QB before the deadline.  The key being the underlined part... If Zach goes down after that, we're kind of up the creek.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2024, 11:50:17 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2024, 10:13:52 PMNow do wins.  SSK went into heavy downtrend after Trevor got injured and they were forced into Dolegala.  And did he win a single game in BC?  (Maybe 1?)

Yes, he got "Bonner'd": thrust into #1 role prematurely.  Yes, he may get better with time.  Yes, in another 2 years he could be as good as Dru.

None of that matters: what we are trying to do right now is have .500 insurance in place if Zach gets hurt.  My only point is I don't think he'll achieve that.  And right now we don't care about anything more than wins, and a great playoff run.

And that's ok.  As a quick & easy stopgap measure, you could say he's perfect.  But we can't realistically expect him to win the cup for us should that need arise.  I fully expect that if Zach goes down we'll trade for a "real" QB before the deadline.  The key being the underlined part... If Zach goes down after that, we're kind of up the creek.


One miracle trade in a life-time is all we get! No matter who the second string is, if Zach goes down it's on to next year.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on September 14, 2024, 01:54:01 AM
To get both I am impressed by!
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on September 14, 2024, 02:15:15 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 13, 2024, 10:13:52 PMNow do wins.  SSK went into heavy downtrend after Trevor got injured and they were forced into Dolegala.  And did he win a single game in BC?  (Maybe 1?)

Yes, he got "Bonner'd": thrust into #1 role prematurely.  Yes, he may get better with time.  Yes, in another 2 years he could be as good as Dru.

None of that matters: what we are trying to do right now is have .500 insurance in place if Zach gets hurt.  My only point is I don't think he'll achieve that.  And right now we don't care about anything more than wins, and a great playoff run.

And that's ok.  As a quick & easy stopgap measure, you could say he's perfect.  But we can't realistically expect him to win the cup for us should that need arise.  I fully expect that if Zach goes down we'll trade for a "real" QB before the deadline.  The key being the underlined part... If Zach goes down after that, we're kind of up the creek.


Do the wins? Your knock on him is he didn't win a lot of games?

Obviously he didn't. He would be the starting QB in Regina if he won a ton of games. Does that need to be pointed out?

Virtually every QB we could reasonably acquire right now is going to be either in their back 9 or young with potential that's hopefully unrealized. He has good enough numbers when compared to other young quarterbacks that he's got a shot. That's about as much proof as you're ever going to get.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: TBURGESS on September 14, 2024, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 13, 2024, 11:50:17 PMOne miracle trade in a life-time is all we get! No matter who the second string is, if Zach goes down it's on to next year.
Actually two in my lifetime. We traded Brock for Clements and went on to win the cup back in 83/84.
Title: Re: Report: Bombers to sign QBs Jake Dolegala & Bryan Scott
Post by: Jesse on September 14, 2024, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: TBURGESS on September 14, 2024, 03:12:10 PMActually two in my lifetime. We traded Brock for Clements and went on to win the cup back in 83/84.

I wasn't born yet so it doesn't count, sorry.