Good
Top notch crowd, amazing outfits abound.
Oliveira
Castillo
Lawler
Zach when it mattered no ints
Bad
Run D for most part
Strevy down and out
Secondary got picked apart again
Ugly
Nothin
Ugly
The Brown low hit on str cellar and then having to watch the moron be all upset they called a penalty on the play. Maybe the league will now do what they should have done in the first place, suspend the idiot to send a message, his play is reckless and won't be tolerated.
Good
Beat em twice in a row, very hard to do
All phases playing well
No turnovers
Bad
Explosion plays
Ugly
Injuries to Strev and Drew
Good
CHAAAAARRRRRLLLLIIIIEEEE ROBERTS!!!!!
Castillio, so good.
Brady in the receiving game.
No INTs
Ford is outstanding
Lawler in the 4th Q
The crowd. Love these kinds of games. Reminded me of going to the Grey Cup. So excited for next year.
Bad
Run game could not get anything going
Lots of shallow passes/screens not getting anywhere
Ugly
Injuries, especially Brown taking out another player
How did we feel about that hit from Brown? On the replay in the stadium it looked like one of our OL almost tackled Brown into Streveler.
Very Bad
Riderfans upset Brown received a penalty for wiping Strevs. knee out. Time to revoke the franchise from those morons.
Quote from: LXTSN on September 08, 2024, 02:46:09 AMHow did we feel about that hit from Brown? On the replay in the stadium it looked like one of our OL almost tackled Brown into Streveler.
He was being tackled and was going down. In that process he pushed forward to grab Strev's legs and pull him down. With how fired up Strev was I would not be surprised if he twisted his leg a bit. At the game, it didn't look as bad as when I watched the PVR replay several times. 100% penalty deserved.
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 08, 2024, 03:22:44 AMHe was being tackled and was going down. In that process he pushed forward to grab Strev's legs and pull him down. With how fired up Strev was I would not be surprised if he twisted his leg a bit. At the game, it didn't look as bad as when I watched the PVR replay several times. 100% penalty deserved.
Yup, the hit wasn't late, and even though it was low-ish, it wasn't "low" by rule (they should change this so you can't tackle right above or on the knees either).
What he did do that deserves a penalty, and probably a fine, is
he MARINO'd Strev's shins/legs by wrapping both arms around and applying his full weight and momentum to Strev's shins/knees. I say Marino because this is near-identical to the Marino hit on Masoli that took Masoli out for an entire year, and eventually cost Marino his job.
The only thing Brown did that might save him from suspension is he let go eventually. Marino held Masoli all the way into the turf.
Strev had his left leg/knee hyperextended and I bet he now has the same knee injury Masoli did, and thus will also be out a year. Strev was in severe pain and the only reason he walked off the field like that is he's a trooper and a bit insane.
As for Brown, watching him on the sidelines I now think he may not be so much dirty as just plain stupid. Watch him! After the refs sorted it out and announced the results, he was clapping like a trained seal like he didn't realize his RTP still stood and his HC just lost a fishing OPI.
But it doesn't matter
why he's taking out QBs: it only matters that he is. He's out of control and as such must be reined in.
GOOD
Zach/MOS/Buck having Zach slide at near the end 4Q1:28 when the pass wasn't open. I was perplexed @PAS, because you just don't see that by a QB. But I get it now, if he chucks it into the stands it's incomplete and they can't bleed clock.
By sliding it's like a run play and they bleed an extra 20s off the clock.
It's actually brilliant and I don't know why you don't see that more. Run the pass play, if it's wide open then take it and the R can stay inbounds to bleed more clock. If it's not a slam dunk, slide the QB and voila, you took 1/4 of the clock away from the opponent.
Wrong team, but
Ugly:
Trevor Harris at the end of this game and the Labour Day classic
Not clutch.
Minor good....... Ford, post game interview. Chuckling at Alford thinking he could outrun Ford. Saying "thanks" to T. Harris.
The good
Collaris/Buck realizing Sask relies on turnovers. Collaros went against his instincts to try to make a play when it isn't there. ( Go back to early games ty it lost us games)
Randolph wasnt noticable ( a good thing)
Ford looking like allstar
Bad
We continue to overuse 3 man fronts, we were much more succesful on 4 man, when your opponent has a makeshift oline you exploit it. It mystifying why we don't put in game plans to attack weaknesses choosing to stick with same d schemes
Johnson 1 target 0 catches Adams would have had more impact
(And can anyone point out a significant block he made)
Quote from: TrueBlue75 on September 08, 2024, 03:22:44 AMHe was being tackled and was going down. In that process he pushed forward to grab Strev's legs and pull him down. With how fired up Strev was I would not be surprised if he twisted his leg a bit. At the game, it didn't look as bad as when I watched the PVR replay several times. 100% penalty deserved.
This. Brown can say whatever, but his actions say he's a scumbag.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2024, 06:49:27 AMYup, the hit wasn't late, and even though it was low-ish, it wasn't "low" by rule (they should change this so you can't tackle right above or on the knees either).
What he did do that deserves a penalty, and probably a fine, is he MARINO'd Strev's shins/legs by wrapping both arms around and applying his full weight and momentum to Strev's shins/knees. I say Marino because this is near-identical to the Marino hit on Masoli that took Masoli out for an entire year, and eventually cost Marino his job.
The only thing Brown did that might save him from suspension is he let go eventually. Marino held Masoli all the way into the turf.
Strev had his left leg/knee hyperextended and I bet he now has the same knee injury Masoli did, and thus will also be out a year. Strev was in severe pain and the only reason he walked off the field like that is he's a trooper and a bit insane.
As for Brown, watching him on the sidelines I now think he may not be so much dirty as just plain stupid. Watch him! After the refs sorted it out and announced the results, he was clapping like a trained seal like he didn't realize his RTP still stood and his HC just lost a fishing OPI.
But it doesn't matter why he's taking out QBs: it only matters that he is. He's out of control and as such must be reined in.
Sometimes penalties are called because of the results (Strev got hurt) &/or reputation (Brown taking out Collaros last week), instead of by rule.
Our OL tackled Brown into Strev. Should have been an illegal block. Not called because of the results.
Wrapping your arms around a players legs to take them down happens all the time. Wrapping up is taught as one of the first things to defensive players. I don't see how they'd take it out of the game.
Quote from: TBURGESS on September 08, 2024, 02:58:59 PMWrapping your arms around a players legs to take them down happens all the time.
Wrapping/holding the plant foot below the knee and applying force to the knee while the leg is immobilized is an injury every time. It's a dirty play and always has been. Every defensive lineman knows about this and that's what it looked like to me. Another accidentally on purpose. Just like the "I can't stop my roll' garbage and helmet lean last week.
Quote from: TBURGESS on September 08, 2024, 02:58:59 PMSometimes penalties are called because of the results (Strev got hurt) &/or reputation (Brown taking out Collaros last week), instead of by rule.
Our OL tackled Brown into Strev. Should have been an illegal block. Not called because of the results.
Wrapping your arms around a players legs to take them down happens all the time. Wrapping up is taught as one of the first things to defensive players. I don't see how they'd take it out of the game.
The problem is when he wrapped his arms around Strev's thighs his falling weight of 200+ lbs. was applied directly to Strev's planted knee, if he did not lock on with his arms he may have knocked him back but the weight would not have been directly transferred. Physics aside this is the reason they don't allow tackling beneath the QB's knees, the point of contact isn't the issue it's the forces applied to vulnerable joints in dangerous situations.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 08, 2024, 03:29:31 PMThe problem is when he wrapped his arms around Strev's thighs his falling weight of 200+ lbs. was applied directly to Strev's planted knee, if he did not lock on with his arms he may have knocked him back but the weight would not have been directly transferred. Physics aside this is the reason they don't allow tackling beneath the QB's knees, the point of contact isn't the issue it's the forces applied to vulnerable joints in dangerous situations.
I understand the physics. I don't think that hitting a QB's thighs and wrapping up is a penalty by rule because the strike zone is between the QB's shoulders and their knees.
Quote from: Waffler on September 08, 2024, 03:18:44 PMWrapping/holding the plant foot below the knee and applying force to the knee while the leg is immobilized is an injury every time. It's a dirty play and always has been. Every defensive lineman knows about this and that's what it looked like to me. Another accidentally on purpose. Just like the "I can't stop my roll' garbage and helmet lean last week.
If the last two weeks have taught us anything, it's that Miles Brown no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt.
He could've let up last week and yesterday. He didn't.
Quote from: TBURGESS on September 08, 2024, 02:58:59 PMSometimes penalties are called because of the results (Strev got hurt) &/or reputation (Brown taking out Collaros last week), instead of by rule.
Our OL tackled Brown into Strev. Should have been an illegal block. Not called because of the results.
Wrapping your arms around a players legs to take them down happens all the time. Wrapping up is taught as one of the first things to defensive players. I don't see how they'd take it out of the game.
The BIG difference is the act of passing puts the player in a vulnerable position and that is why the special rule is in place that doesn't allow any forcible hitting in the knee area or below for any passer who has one or both feet planted on the ground, which Strevellers were. I don't buy that Brown was pushed into him, that s an iffy argument at best, it was clear he did nothing to avoid contact and actually purposely made contact, so that gets called everytime.
If he had made a effort to avoid contact, maybe they don't call it, but it was just like last week's BS play by Brown, he did nothing to avoid contact and actually went out of his way to initiate contact, that gets called everytime. As for his temper tantrum afterwards, I would have flagged that too. The league doesn't need garbage like him in it. Absolute garbage player.
Good
Kicking game
Kick coverage.
Woli: 3/4 29 yards.
ND10: 7/8 46 yards.
BO20: 6/7 60 Yards.
KL89: 6/7 64 Yards.
OL protection.
WJ5: 2 DTs, 1 PD, 1 BP.
Griffin: 8 DTs
Ford: 2 Int.
Bad
ZC8 deep throws. Only close on 1.
Bonds: Another coverage breakdown.
Injuries to Strev and Woli.
Good-special teams coverage outstanding again
-Castillo perfect
-Lawler best game this season
-Olivera
-no turnovers
Bad-undisciplined play of the Riders
-settling for field goals
Ugly-Brown cheap shot
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 08, 2024, 03:38:34 PMIf the last two weeks have taught us anything, it's that Miles Brown no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt.
He could've let up last week and yesterday. He didn't.
Earlier in the game Collaros was beaking at Brown and trying to get in his face, was there another incident or was it just a holdover from the previous game? TSN did not show a replay of why Zach may have been upset.
Quote from: bwiser on September 08, 2024, 04:33:08 PMGood-special teams coverage outstanding again
-Castillo perfect
-Lawler best game this season
-Olivera
-no turnovers
Bad-undisciplined play of the Riders
-settling for field goals
Ugly-Brown cheap shot
Yes, more 7s would be nice.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 08, 2024, 08:19:59 AMGOOD
Zach/MOS/Buck having Zach slide at near the end 4Q1:28 when the pass wasn't open. I was perplexed @PAS, because you just don't see that by a QB. But I get it now, if he chucks it into the stands it's incomplete and they can't bleed clock.
By sliding it's like a run play and they bleed an extra 20s off the clock.
It's actually brilliant and I don't know why you don't see that more. Run the pass play, if it's wide open then take it and the R can stay inbounds to bleed more clock. If it's not a slam dunk, slide the QB and voila, you took 1/4 of the clock away from the opponent.
Exactamundly! :) Zach knows time management and milked the clock down farther by doing that. Why toss it up and risk a pick or stopping the clock. His initial called play was not there so just eat it and keep the clock moving. What I do question though is why they did not have a secondary receiver further out to the sideline maybe or a little further up though to be a nitpicker! ;) Maybe there was, but Zach did not have much time to decide so just ate the burger! :D
Quote from: ichabod_crane on September 09, 2024, 07:16:16 AMWhat I do question though is why they did not have a secondary receiver further out to the sideline maybe or a little further up though to be a nitpicker! ;) Maybe there was, but Zach did not have much time to decide to just ate the burger! :D
Because for it to work in this situation the pass has to be a 100% shot. There can be no one around, no chance of INT, no chance of tip, no chance of anything except completion. The R must be one of your best hands guys.
It's basically the same clock-chewing as a Brady run up the gut when you know for a fact the D will be run blitzing and stuff him after 1-2Y: 100% safe. The difference is, this play will 100% get you a 1st down
if the D doesn't follow the sneaking-out player.
I really like this play and glad they added it in. I guess the one downside is a dirty player (ehem) could take Zach out with a late hit (and Brown almost did here!).
TechnoGenius....don't you ever sleep man?! You are ALWAYS on this forum! ;) I'm a night owl by nature, so I'm almost always poking away at various things in the midnight hours! :D Mornings I'm half asleep at work....don't bug me until lunch! ;) :D
Quote from: ichabod_crane on September 09, 2024, 08:31:24 AMTechnoGenius....don't you ever sleep man?! You are ALWAYS on this forum! ;) I'm a night owl by nature, so I'm almost always poking away at various things in the midnight hours! :D Mornings I'm half asleep at work....don't bug me until lunch! ;) :D
No he does not sleep! It is AI gone Rogue! :D
Quote from: ichabod_crane on September 09, 2024, 08:31:24 AMTechnoGenius....don't you ever sleep man?! You are ALWAYS on this forum! ;) I'm a night owl by nature, so I'm almost always poking away at various things in the midnight hours! :D Mornings I'm half asleep at work....don't bug me until lunch! ;) :D
No sleep! Sleep is for the off-season ;D ;D ;D ;D
It helps that my entire job and most of my hobbies are in front of the computer... I do keep weird hours, however, that is true. Always have.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 09, 2024, 09:23:25 PMNo sleep! Sleep is for the off-season ;D ;D ;D ;D
It helps that my entire job and most of my hobbies are in front of the computer... I do keep weird hours, however, that is true. Always have.
STOP DAVE/TECHNO! I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE A STRESS PILL! :D
Looks like the insecure greenies are exerting too much influence on CFL.ca, they've labeled the game the "Labour Day rematch" in the following article with no mention at all of the words "Banjo Bowl". They wouldn't recognize a good marketing ploy if it hit them square in the face.
https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/07/bombers-get-best-of-riders-again-in-labour-day-rematch/ (https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/07/bombers-get-best-of-riders-again-in-labour-day-rematch/)
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 10, 2024, 04:39:33 PMLooks like the insecure greenies are exerting too much influence on CFL.ca, they've labeled the game the "Labour Day rematch" in the following article with no mention at all of the words "Banjo Bowl". They wouldn't recognize a good marketing ploy if it hit them square in the face.
https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/07/bombers-get-best-of-riders-again-in-labour-day-rematch/ (https://www.cfl.ca/2024/09/07/bombers-get-best-of-riders-again-in-labour-day-rematch/)
Good. Those losers can cry into their Pilsners as they watch their team tumble down the standings.