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Jets open camp tomorrow, and still no contract for CP91.
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Ville Heinola has an infection in his ankle. "This isn't good," says #NHLJets coach Scott Arniel. Says it's far more than day to day.
Quote from: DCM on September 20, 2024, 11:08:44 PM@mikemcintyrewpg
Ville Heinola has an infection in his ankle. "This isn't good," says #NHLJets coach Scott Arniel. Says it's far more than day to day.
Ville just can't catch a break.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 20, 2024, 11:27:44 PMVille just can't catch a break.
Such lousy news. I was really hoping he'd crack the opening day roster this season.
Sounds like the team is pretty high on Lambert. Could be the 2C prospect the team needs.
What is Perfetti doing? Does his agent know how time off the ice affects his future? The above post illustrates that his potential to break camp as the #2 C is more in jeopardy every passing hour. I really, really like the kid, and think he's going to be a good player, but in the NHL, you have to pay your dues and earn your deal.
He is RFA, he hasn't had a full healthy season to date, his number have been m'eh, but his opportunity to prove himself is only going to come if he plays.
They gave him $1.65mil/year for 3 years, and got 145 games and 75 points for it. So while we all know there is potential there, he hasn't realized it.
If he's looking for a long term deal over $5mil, he's deluded. He deserves a one or two year $3mil deal and a chance to earn a big contract. The 24-25 Jets are going to be a feast day for young players, and he's got a chance to shine.
The only reason to hold out is if he thinks he can't compete or thinks he will get injured. Otherwise, take any deal, get on the ice, and make a name.
The reality of the NHL.
Perfetti hasn't shown he's capable of the 2C role. That said, he can still fill a vital role as a depth piece, IMO.
But him sitting out TC with these prolonged contract talks will not help his cause. I can't say I understand what he or his agent is thinking.
https://thehockeynews.com/news/rfa-lowdown-facts-stats-and-circumstances-facing-swayman-perfetti-and-alexandrov
QuoteThe 22-year-old generated 19 goals and 38 points in 71 games last season, and the Jets have $5.77 million in cap space to bring him on board for 2024-25. Perfetti struggled later in the season, so he doesn't have the kind of leverage Swayman has in Boston. But a deal similar to what New Jersey just gave youngster Dawson Mercer (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/winnipeg-jets/latest-news/an-end-in-sight-dawson-mercers-contract-a-solid-comparable-for-cole-perfetti) – $4-million per season, for the next three years – could be enough to get a deal done for Perfetti.
Seems reasonable.
Mercer played 82 games a season, every season. With 20+ goals in the last two.
$4mil is too much, sorry. That's what Neiderieter and Iaffalo make. More than Valardi and Lowry. Twice what Appleton makes.
2 years at $3.2 mil sure. Give both sides a chance to see what he's really worth.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 23, 2024, 04:24:14 PMMercer played 82 games a season, every season. With 20+ goals in the last two.
$4mil is too much, sorry. That's what Neiderieter and Iaffalo make. More than Valardi and Lowry. Twice what Appleton makes.
2 years at $3.2 mil sure. Give both sides a chance to see what he's really worth.
Perfetti's younger than all of them (some by a considerable margin) and is expected to have a higher ceiling, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with those comparisons. And consider the cap has gone up since those other contracts were tendered.
The comparison to Mercer's deal is likely a starting point; that doesn't mean he'll get $4M AAV.
Yes, he's younger. With a high ceiling, but as of yet unproven. And often injured.
Giving him $3.2 would be paying him a premium on what he delivers, for the opportunity of the future, which they already have the rights to.
He got paid over what most get on their ELC's for that potential already...
$1.65M was with performance bonus. I don't think Cole ever received those PBs. His total NHL earning to date, $2.775 M. Which ends up to be $925K per.
I would be okay at $3M x 2 years. Other wise move him.
I think the often unfortunate reality for this organization - and market - is that it has to pay a premium to retain talent.
It's just the business of the sport, as disagreeable as I find it at times.
CP91 signs a 2 years, $6.5 M. Now, he has to go out and prove he's worth $3.25 per.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 23, 2024, 05:20:35 PMYes, he's younger. With a high ceiling, but as of yet unproven. And often injured.
Giving him $3.2 would be paying him a premium on what he delivers, for the opportunity of the future, which they already have the rights to.
He got paid over what most get on their ELC's for that potential already...
Hmmm... I guess they gave him an extra $50k/yr just to make me wrong.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 24, 2024, 03:58:00 AMHmmm... I guess they gave him an extra $50k/yr just to make me wrong.
Eh, I'm sure you're used to it by now. ;)
Anyway, glad he's finally re-signed. Reasonable term and money. Now he has to earn it.
https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-make-first-cuts-of-2024-25-training-camp/
QuoteTraining camp began last week with 53 players on the roster. After less than a week of skating and two pre-season games that number will now be reduced as Winnipeg has announced the following moves:
To Manitoba:
F – Chaz Lucius
F – Henri Nikkanen
F – Danny Zhilkin
Back to junior teams:
F – Kevin He
F- Jacob Julien
F – Connor Levis
F – Markus Loponen
F – Kieron Walton
The following four players have been released from their professional try-outs:
D – Dylan Anhorn
D – Dawson Barteaux
D – Ashton Sautner
F – Ben King
All four have AHL deals with the Moose and will be at their training camp.
The Jets now have 23 forwards, 13 defencemen, and five goalies remaining at training camp.
Lucius has been disappointing so far. 35 games of hockey in the past 2 years. Injury after injury. Needs to stay healthy and have a very good year with the Moose.
Gotta like the style of win last night.
Jets dressed the more experienced lineup and worked better as a team. Our #1 line dominated, Ehlers and Lambert certainly were decent together with Names. Defensively solid and I thought Lundmark had a very serviceable game paired with a good vet in Miller.
Still cheering for Kupari to prove himself and make this team
Stanley out for 4 weeks, with knee surgery.
Little to retire as a Jet.
Quote from: Pigskin on September 27, 2024, 07:05:06 PMStanley out for 4 weeks, with knee surgery.
Little to retire as a Jet.
Stanley out too?
Oi vey.
Quote from: Jesse on September 28, 2024, 01:09:43 PMStanley out too?
Oi vey.
Man! He was playing well too.
https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-make-third-cut-of-2024-25-training-camp-reduce-roster-by-7/
QuoteThe Jets got down to 36 players last Sunday and today they have made a further reduction as follows:
G: Thomas Milic
D: Dmitry Kuzmin, Tyrel Bauer, Simon Lundmark
F: Dominic Toninato, AJF, Mason Shaw,
Four of which are on waivers for purposes of assignment to the Moose:
D – Simon Lundmark
F – Axel Jonsson-Fjallby
F – Mason Shaw
F – Dominic Toninato
And the other three are being assigned to Manitoba:
G – Thomas Milic
D – Tyrel Bauer
D – Dmitry Kuzmin
This leaves 29 players at Jets camp.
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Is Chevy watching the Waiver wire for a hidden gem ? Such as a puck moving D-man
Who is going to be traded or waived and then picked up before he clears waivers ?
What's the fate of Iafallo and his $4.M tag, Kupari, Barron, is Lambert pushing into the opening roster (hope so)
Is Comrie capable of being the backup or is his use as a goalie mentor on the Moose ?
Quote from: Jockitch on October 04, 2024, 05:40:40 PMIs Chevy watching the Waiver wire for a hidden gem ? Such as a puck moving D-man
Who is going to be traded or waived and then picked up before he clears waivers ?
What's the fate of Iafallo and his $4.M tag, Kupari, Barron, is Lambert pushing into the opening roster (hope so)
Is Comrie capable of being the backup or is his use as a goalie mentor on the Moose ?
Chevy's usually pretty good at picking up contributors off of the waiver wire. Not sure we have space for it this year as a guy like Lambert could be sent down for the sole purpose that he doesn't have to go through waivers.
I guess the caveat there is that we're suddenly low on defensive bodies.
Quote from: Jockitch on October 04, 2024, 05:40:40 PMIs Chevy watching the Waiver wire for a hidden gem ? Such as a puck moving D-man
Who is going to be traded or waived and then picked up before he clears waivers ?
What's the fate of Iafallo and his $4.M tag, Kupari, Barron, is Lambert pushing into the opening roster (hope so)
Is Comrie capable of being the backup or is his use as a goalie mentor on the Moose ?
Comrie is a down grade from LB. Iafallo is a swiss army knife type of player, but at $4M??? Kupari, needs to turn the corner quickly. I like Barron on our 4th line. I think Lambert has played well and needs the be on the roster.
Second line C is a big ? for me. VN7 is a 3rd or 4th line C at best.
D is also a big question mark.
1C - 55
3C - 17
1w - 81
2W - 27
1G - 37
Other than that, no idea
Very much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea
....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force
Iafallo at $4M is pretty reasonable considering how much versatility he brings.
I'm surprised about Lambert. It sounded like he was ready to take the next step.
2C remains a pretty big question mark in the meantime, IMO.
I am looking at our C position and we are right back to where we were before we trade for Monahan.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 05, 2024, 09:37:29 PMI am looking at our C position and we are right back to where we were before we trade for Monahan.
Keeping in mind how much success we had last year before the trade for Monahan.
Quote from: Jockitch on October 05, 2024, 07:36:22 PMVery much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea
....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force
Kupari is probably the 4th centre or the guy getting bumped off the roster for Lambert. Don't think we want to see him as 2C.
Quote from: Jockitch on October 05, 2024, 07:36:22 PMVery much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea
....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force
Quote from: Jockitch on October 05, 2024, 07:36:22 PMVery much agree on the need to some how upgrade our 2C position.
Personally believe that Kupari and Lambert have the wheels for it. Perfetti has the smarts but I'm guessing NO. ..... will Arniel take the chance on one of these and get rid of the Namestnikov idea
....... and for me a puck moving D-man who also uses his body with force
I think it will depend on who is better in the face offs. Last season before we brought in Monahan we were bottom of the league. But, I would like to see Lambert take that spot. He has excellent speed and vision.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 06, 2024, 03:54:32 AMI think it will depend on who is better in the face offs. Last season before we brought in Monahan we were bottom of the league. But, I would like to see Lambert take that spot. He has excellent speed and vision.
I don't know if I would expect Lambert to be good at face-offs. Seems like one of those things that's going to keep him out of the Jets line up more than one that'll get him on the 2nd line.
Quote from: Jesse on October 06, 2024, 04:01:30 PMI don't know if I would expect Lambert to be good at face-offs. Seems like one of those things that's going to keep him out of the Jets line up more than one that'll get him on the 2nd line.
Good point. The ability to win face-offs is such a critical skill.
This team will have to be better in the face off circle.
Manahan 54.7 on 547 FO.
AL17 49.0 on 1390
MS55 48.1 on 1253.
DG19 54.6 on 194
MB36 46.3 on 134
CP91 37.6 on 101
VN7 36.3 on 477
NN62 45.6 on 31.
PP 18.75 PK 77.13 Both have to be better.
Players we need to get more out of. CP91: 38 points in 71 games. GV13 36 points in 47, needs to stay healthy.
NN62 34 points in 72 games, MA22 36 points in 82 games.
Jets send Lambert and Chib, back to the Moose.
Shame about Lambert, but I'd rather he not get rushed. The Moose should be a solid team this season.
Not sure I'm feeling the same about the Jets, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 07, 2024, 05:41:08 PMShame about Lambert, but I'd rather he not get rushed. The Moose should be a solid team this season.
Not sure I'm feeling the same about the Jets, though.
We're essentially the exact same team as last year.
If they commit to the same defensive structure; we're a Wild Card team. If they're able to move their special teams out of the basement, there's potential to be even more.
I don't have any faith in our play-off results until I see otherwise, though.
Lambert on the ice getting top minutes with the moose is better than getting 4th line minutes or even press box with the big club. He can work on becoming the #2C we need...
We need a faceoff coach, a specialist. We need to be at least .500 in the circle.
Quote from: Jesse on October 07, 2024, 06:08:17 PMWe're essentially the exact same team as last year.
If they commit to the same defensive structure; we're a Wild Card team. If they're able to move their special teams out of the basement, there's potential to be even more.
I don't have any faith in our play-off results until I see otherwise, though.
As #37 goes, so will this team. Seems like that's been the case for too long now.
Count me among those who feel pretty meh about this upcoming season.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 07, 2024, 08:13:04 PMAs #37 goes, so will this team. Seems like that's been the case for too long now.
Count me among those who feel pretty meh about this upcoming season.
I think we took a step back from last season. No 2nd. line C, no LB, didn't upgrade the D.
I'm excited for tonight although I'm not expecting us to be world beaters this season. Hoping we are in the playoff conversation and it gives me reason to watch nightly. To be fair, I said this last year and we had an incredible regular season, so who knows.
All I can do right now is hope we hammer Edmonton at home tonight. Long shot that will happen, but wouldn't that be a way to generate excitement..
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/5-questions-winnipeg-jets-must-answer-as-new-season-arrives/
Here's hoping they find a way to formulate answers starting tonight.
I am hoping the Jets can stay out of the penalty box tonight. Not sure our PP has improved any this season. Helle will probably have to be in mid season form tonight to get the W.
Well, not a bad 1st. period. The Lowry line is playing well.
Apps. with 3 points.
PP 2/3
Kup first goal in 70 games.
6 zip, pretty solid game for the Jets.
A little bit of humble pie for the Oil courtesy the Jets. Congrats to Scott Arniel for his first win in his first regular season game as anointed coach of the Jets. Nice to get that out of the way immediately for him and the players.
Kyle Connor's seventh consecutive season-opening game with a goal, an NHL record.
Helle takes hold of the Vezina conversation in Game one, lol.
Quote from: Jesse on October 10, 2024, 11:05:15 AMHelle takes hold of the Vezina conversation in Game one, lol.
Put the league on notice!
What a game. Third line was unreal.
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 09, 2024, 05:08:55 PMAll I can do right now is hope we hammer Edmonton at home tonight. Long shot that will happen, but wouldn't that be a way to generate excitement..
WRONG AGAIN
classic
So, we really missed out on upgrading our D, what a mess they were last night.
Why did the announcers keep saying "this was a 52 win team" and "this was a 110 point team" over and over? We know, and we've been "contenders" and "first round exits" for a while.
We had 3 more wins, 6 more points, but the Oilers went to the 7th game of the SCF.
Yes, a statement start to the season. 97 more games like this and we hoist the cup.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 10, 2024, 05:03:34 PMSo, we really missed out on upgrading our D, what a mess they were last night.
Why did the announcers keep saying "this was a 52 win team" and "this was a 110 point team" over and over? We know, and we've been "contenders" and "first round exits" for a while.
We had 3 more wins, 6 more points, but the Oilers went to the 7th game of the SCF.
Yes, a statement start to the season. 97 more games like this and we hoist the cup.
It's game one. Both teams have a lot to work on. I had no problem with our D last night. D also blocked a lot of shots. Our 2nd. line took the night off. Need a 2nd.line C. 20 of 49 in the circle, we knew that was a problem coming in. However the PP moved the puck well, and shot the puck more often, not looking for the perfect play.
Jets place Kahkonen on waivers.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 10, 2024, 08:12:27 PMJets place Kahkonen on waivers.
Knew it was him or Comrie... both need to clear to go down. Can't carry 3 goalers.
Moose will be fine if we lose him, but better if we don't. Good depth, just in case.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 10, 2024, 08:12:27 PMJets place Kahkonen on waivers.
All the talking heads were predicting it'd be Comrie. Interesting.
Kah: 139 games, 2A, 4 SO, 3.33 GAA, 49/67/15, .899. 28 years old.
Com: 57 games, 2A, 2 SO, 3.38 GAA, 24/26/2, 29 years old.
I was surprised to see Comrie has only played in 57 NHL games.
Opening Night (https://twitter.com/i/status/1844409062823473238)
CB98 in Winnipeg tonight. To bad I will be at the Bomber game.
G Kahkonen claimed off waivers by the Avs: https://illegalcurve.com/former-winnipeg-jets-goalie-kaapo-kahkonen-claimed-off-waivers-by-colorado-avalanche/
Could be a tough go for the Moose in net this season.
Well just finished watching the highlights of this game. 2-1 win in OT. Excellent push near the end of the game. MS55 with goals 299, and 300.
Well, I'm glad one team managed the comeback win last night.
Hellebuyck is such a phenom. Scheifele having a strong start to this season.
What beautiful hip check NP4 caught CB98 with last night.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 12, 2024, 08:49:48 PMWhat beautiful hip check NP4 caught CB98 with last night.
When asked about it Pionk said if he misses the hip check he gets flagged so he can't miss. LOL!
5 pm start tonight. Should be a good game.
What an amazing goal by Scheif with 0.7 seconds left in the first period. Perfect shot! That faceoff win by Adam Lowry was incredible too!
Amazing Goal Off The Faceoff! (https://twitter.com/i/status/1845603044236444041)
Another nice win by the Jets. 3-0 to start the season for the first time. Keep 'er going, boys!
Game Winner in OT! (https://twitter.com/i/status/1845626600022278278)
Well, I am sure glad we didn't trade MS55 last summer. Lot's of empty seats. But, it was a bad time (5pm) for a game on Thanksgiving Sunday. Not a great 1st. period which was saved by a great faceoff win by AL17, and MS55 with a quick release. 1,3,and 4th lines all playing well.
OT, great pass by MS55 and an amazing shot by KC81.
The new assistant coaches, Dean Chynoweth and Davis Payne, have had success on other teams with the power play and penalty kill. Our PP is 3 for 7 or 42.86 and our PK is perfect through 3 games. Hope this trend continues !
Nice little start to the season.
Loved that set play off the face-off the other night - big win by Lowry and a beauty goal by Scheifele.
I know it's early on but the special teams seem considerably improved.
Good read on the reigning two-time Vezina winner: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5450275/2024/10/15/connor-hellebuyck-winnipeg-jets-stats-awards/
October 18th it's the Sharks, and then we get to see McGroaty on October 20th.
What's with the 5 day break in-between games here?
Am I supposed to just concentrate on my work and family?
Quote from: Pigskin on October 15, 2024, 06:35:02 PMOctober 18th it's the Sharks, and then we get to see McGroaty on October 20th.
See that McG was a healthy scratch the other day vs the Habs
Quote from: Jockitch on October 16, 2024, 01:06:59 AMSee that McG was a healthy scratch the other day vs the Habs
Wouldn't surprise me if he gets sent to Wilkes-Barre. He's been invisible (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/mcgroru01.html) so far despite pretty ample opportunity.
Good riddance to that headcase.
Canada Life Centre will welcome its 20 millionth guest tonight when the Jets play the Sharks.
That lucky guest is going to win some good stuff.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 18, 2024, 02:16:39 PMCanada Life Centre will welcome its 20 millionth guest tonight when the Jets play the Sharks.
That lucky guest is going to win some good stuff.
And, Vezina and Jennings will be in the house.
Is anyone missing Brad Lauer?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 16, 2024, 01:08:20 PMWouldn't surprise me if he gets sent to Wilkes-Barre. He's been invisible (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/mcgroru01.html) so far despite pretty ample opportunity.
Good riddance to that headcase.
Man, did you ever call that one! Nicely done.
Now I'm hearing that they only sent him down because they have a Jets game coming up and they didn't want a media circus. I'm not buying it.
Well, that's the way we should beat a team like the sharks. Nice to see the 2nd. line get going.
PP 4/7. PK 1/2. NP4- 4 points. NE27- 3 points, CP91- 4 points, and VN7- 4 points.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 19, 2024, 03:52:08 AMWell, that's the way we should beat a team like the sharks. Nice to see the 2nd. line get going.
PP 4/7. PK 1/2. NP4- 4 points. NE27- 3 points, CP91- 4 points, and VN7- 4 points.
Exactly. None of this playing down to your opponent garbage.
really a nice effort thru and thru ....... and a special HOORAY for Comrie's performance
When we went down 0-2 I thought, oh oh, this isn't going well, but then 6 of the next 7 goals for the Jets and we were chill. ;D
Comrie on How Many Games? (https://twitter.com/i/status/1848123618191933600)
Great game to be at yesterday, not only to see the Jets stay undefeated but also to celebrate Bryan Little.
The "Where is Rutger?" chant followed up by the "Yager's better" chant was priceless.
Missed about a period and half of this game. However, what I did watch, we looked very solid. Excellent 3rd. period. Scoring from different players each game, and the D picked up 7 or 8 points. SA has them playing well.
How did Chevy pull off this deal for Brayden Yager?
7 games in Moosejaw, 7 goals, 6 assists. Yeah, its Junior, but still. McGroarty has really pooped the bed so far.
As much as I don't respect Chevy in a lot of ways, going back to Chicago, he is an effective GM. Sure, its on him for drafting McGroarty and not realizing that he was going to be a problem child, but getting full value based on what he drafted, not what McGroarty has shown himself to be, well done.
Getting PLD for Liane, then getting such great return on PLD, these are moves that have made the Jets contenders.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 22, 2024, 04:08:49 PMHow did Chevy pull off this deal for Brayden Yager?
7 games in Moosejaw, 7 goals, 6 assists. Yeah, its Junior, but still. McGroarty has really pooped the bed so far.
As much as I don't respect Chevy in a lot of ways, going back to Chicago, he is an effective GM. Sure, its on him for drafting McGroarty and not realizing that he was going to be a problem child, but getting full value based on what he drafted, not what McGroarty has shown himself to be, well done.
Getting PLD for Liane, then getting such great return on PLD, these are moves that have made the Jets contenders.
I don't agree. How does a GM know what a 18 year old kid is going to think a couple of years down the road.
Quote from: theaardvark on October 22, 2024, 04:08:49 PMHow did Chevy pull off this deal for Brayden Yager?
It's a trade involving one unproven (and seemingly over-entitled) prospect for another. Low risk transaction for either team.
That's how he "pulled if off," I'd surmise.
Jets top first NHL Power Rankings of the season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-top-the-first-nhl-power-ranking-of-the-season-1.2192576
Quote...there has been no better team early this season than the Winnipeg Jets, who sit first in our rankings. The Jets are the only undefeated team in the league (5-0-0) and their fans will be encouraged to hear their strong play looks sustainable.
Winnipeg ranks first in goal differential, per game and fifth in expected goal differential. The Jets boast the only power play clicking above 40 per cent, and Connor Hellebuyck is in Vezina-calibre form.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 22, 2024, 08:10:25 PMJets top first NHL Power Rankings of the season: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-top-the-first-nhl-power-ranking-of-the-season-1.2192576
Awesome post! It's the end of the second period of the St. Louis game and after going down 0-1 in the first the Jets have come back with 3 in the second to lead 3-1. Kudos to this team, the players, and the coaches for coming out of the blocks ready to play NHL hockey at an elite level. I can't say enough about Adam Lowry and the leadership he is displaying and about Coach Arneil who is doing a masterful job behind the bench. Go Jets Go!
Jets win 3-2! The team is now 6-0 to start the season. Wow!
A really solid road win last night.
Perfetti is playing great!
Better result than I was anticipating. Well done Jets
Took us about 10 minutes to wake up. But, after that we looked very solid.
Not our best game of the year, but a good road win against a very quick Kraken team.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 25, 2024, 04:52:00 AMNot our best game of the year, but a good road win against a very quick Kraken team.
The Kraken were dangerous all night. I would have liked to see the Jets lock it down when they had a 3-1 lead in the third but the Kraken were full marks for forcing overtime. The OT was all Jets and with a delayed penalty call Nic Ehlers snipes the game winner.
Jets now 7-0. Franchise best start to the season.
Quote from: Pigskin on October 25, 2024, 04:52:00 AMNot our best game of the year, but a good road win against a very quick Kraken team.
Jets took over in middle frame but a couple of costly defensive zone errors in the third both ended up in the back of their net. But they never panicked and stuck to their game, which certainly speaks to character of this team this season.
Arniel and co. has them playing with a ton of resilience and it continues to result in wins. It also helps significantly having the best netminder in the game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 25, 2024, 01:08:18 PMJets took over in middle frame but a couple of costly defensive zone errors in the third both ended up in the back of their net. But they never panicked and stuck to their game, which certainly speaks to character of this team this season.
Yes and I love how they are supporting each other and are playing a heavy, puck support style of game. In the overtime once they got possession of the puck they drew a penalty by being aggressive in the Kraken end they pulled Hellebuyck, got an extra man out there (Ehlers) and they never gave up the puck until it was fished out of the back of the net.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on October 25, 2024, 01:08:18 PMArniel and co. has them playing with a ton of resilience and it continues to result in wins. It also helps significantly having the best netminder in the game.
Well said. Having Helley back there playing with quiet confidence is certainly contagious. He keeps the team on an even keel. The guy is a rock!
Winnipeg Jets 2024 Statistics
Based on the provided search results, here are the Winnipeg Jets statistics for the 2024 season:
Record: 7-0-0 (perfect start to the season)
Power Play: Boasts the only power play clicking above 40% (exact percentage not specified)
Goal Differential: Average goal differential of 3.2 (exact calculation not specified)
xGoal Diff: 1.06 (exact calculation not specified)
Points Percentage: 1.000 (perfect points percentage)
Recent Performance:
Won 4-3 on the road against the Seattle Kraken (October 24)
Won 6-3 at home against the Pittsburgh Penguins (October 20)
Moneyline Favorite: 6-0 record when favored, with a 59.2% chance of winning in their next game (Winnipeg vs. Calgary)
Over/Under: 5 goals or more in 5 of 7 games this season, averaging 4.4 goals per game (31 total) and allowing 1.9 goals per game (13 total) in those 10 matchups
Road Trip: Embarked on a three-game road trip with stops in St. Louis, Seattle, and Calgary (as of October 21)
Quote from: J5V on October 25, 2024, 05:54:40 PMYes and I love how they are supporting each other and are playing a heavy, puck support style of game. In the overtime once they got possession of the puck they drew a penalty by being aggressive in the Kraken end they pulled Hellebuyck, got an extra man out there (Ehlers) and they never gave up the puck until it was fished out of the back of the net.
Well said. Having Helley back there playing with quiet confidence is certainly contagious. He keeps the team on an even keel. The guy is a rock!
Power Play Unit:
Top Unit: Kyle Connor (LW), Mark Scheifele ©, Nikolaj Ehlers (RW)
Second Unit: Adam Lowry ©, Nino Niederreiter (LW), Cole Perfetti (RW)
Power Play Statistics:
Goals: 23 (ranked 7th in the NHL)
Assists: 64 (ranked 5th in the NHL)
Points: 87 (ranked 6th in the NHL)
Power Play Percentage: 24.5% (ranked 8th in the NHL)
Power Play Goals per 60 Minutes: 2.13 (ranked 10th in the NHL)
Key Players:
Kyle Connor: 7-14-21 (PP) in 2024-2025
Mark Scheifele: 6-12-18 (PP) in 2024-2025
Nikolaj Ehlers: 5-10-15 (PP) in 2024-2025
Neal Pionk: 3-14-17 (PP) in 2024-2025
Notes:
The Jets' power play has been consistent, with both units contributing to their overall success. Kyle Connor has been a key player on the top unit, with 21 points (7G, 14A) on the power play. Mark Scheifele and Nikolaj Ehlers have also been productive, with 18 and 15 points (6G, 12A and 5G, 10A), respectively. Neal Pionk has been a steady presence on the second unit, with 17 points (3G, 14A) on the power play.
Not sure why you're commenting on Stats that Are Not relevant to this short season of just 7 games so far
Quote from: Jockitch on October 25, 2024, 07:50:35 PMNot sure why you're commenting on Stats that Are Not relevant to this short season of just 7 games so far
Apologies. I didn't filter that query very well. I've updated it with more relevant stats to this season.
Well, that's another road win to go 8 straight Ws to start the season. Lot's of giveaways, and a few two many penalties. However our PP and PK, have been outstanding. D also blocking a lot of shots.
Odd or rather "he'd rather have that one back" kinda goals on Comrie who otherwise was really solid
Speaking of odd ——- how about the bank off the back Jet goal
That was a major Yahoo
The Flames really were competitive but YAY for our boys
The turnaround with special teams this season has been nothing short of spectacular.
Jets still top the power rankings: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-top-nhl-power-ranking-toronto-maple-leafs-take-big-stumble-1.2196647
QuoteThere doesn't seem to be an identifiable weakness with the Jets early in the season. Winnipeg ranks second in goals for and against. It's nearly as solid from a process standpoint when it comes to the chances the team creates and allows. No player on the team has more than 10 points, however, 10 have at least six. Depth and consistency have been key for Winnipeg early.
The Jets' third line, if you want to call it that, centred by Adam Lowry, has played more minutes together than any other Winnipeg line. It has outscored the opposition 7-1 at five-on-five while posting an expected goals percentage north of 70 per cent.
What a start.
What a start, indeed.
Jets D DeMelo: Jets 'really haven't done crap' despite 8-0 start (https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3111148)
Quote"We understand that we still have a lot of work to do. ... It's great that we've gotten a great start, but we really haven't done crap, to be honest with you," he told reporters Monday. "It's still so early, and that's kind of our message, is not to get complacent, and not to be relaxed. Keep the foot on the gas and see what we can do with this thing."
Far to many giveaway's tonight. Leaf's dominated us on faceoffs 38 to 19. NP4 and DS54 on the ice for 5 Leaf goals. KC81 2G,2A, and a -1.
Jets PP 2/4, PK 2/2.
Well, a stinky first period basically sunk 'em last night. That was a rough one.
Nothing worse than breaking the streak against the Leafs at home in front of the local Toronto fans (that shouldn't be a sentence - how shameful).
But, while I loved our Cinderella storylines, it was bound to end eventually and now we can fly under the radar and hopefully get back to consistent, winning hockey.
Quote from: blue_or_die on October 29, 2024, 12:46:14 PMNothing worse than breaking the streak against the Leafs at home in front of the local Toronto fans (that shouldn't be a sentence - how shameful).
Absolutely the worst part. Such an insufferable fanbase across this nation.
How long is Arneil's contract? Can we start looking for a new coach?
Just kidding.
Unfortunate the "come back to earth" game was at home against the Leaves.
Really missing a top faceoff man, for sure. When your 4th line centre is your top FO guy, you know there's a problem. Arneil found good PP and PK coaches, the team needs to hire the best FO coach in the league, or even the world. Anything less is a waste of time.
Fix that, and so much comes with it.
Is there such a thing as a face-off coach?
The Jets are currently ranked 16th in FOW%, so I don't think that's such a glaring issue at the moment. And certainly not one that's sunk this team through 9 GP.
D Heinola, F Anderson-Dolan resume skating: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-confirms-ville-heinola-jaret-anderson-dolan-have-resumed-skating/
Really good to hear, especially with Heinola.
Need to play a full 60 minutes tonight. Also, need to clear the front of the net.
Excellent bounce back game for the Jets. Much better on faceoffs, 33 - 21 in our favor. 3 goals by our D-men.
PK not so good to night. PP 1/2 and still very good.
I think Monday was an anomaly. And even then, all they had to was play a better first period.
Great bounceback win last night. Connor had a phenomenal game.
Projected lines/pairings for tonight's matchup vs. the Blue Jackets:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Perfetti-Namestnikov-Ehlers
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Stanley-Miller
Comrie
Hellebuyck
Puck drop at 6 pm on TSN.
Nice. Comrie gets the start, he's the last undefeated goalie on the roster...
Up against Monahan, but no Liane...
Kyle Connor named Second Star of the Month: https://www.nhl.com/news/makar-connor-kaprizov-named-3-stars-of-month-for-october-2024
QuoteSECOND STAR – KYLE CONNOR, LW, WINNIPEG JETS
Connor (9-8—17 in 10 GP) also collected points in each of his October appearances, setting a franchise record for the longest season-opening point streak while propelling the Jets to the top of the NHL standings via a 9-1-0 month (18 points) – highlighted by an eight-game winning streak to begin the campaign. He started 2024-25 by becoming the first player in League history to score in seven straight season-opening contests (Oct. 9 at EDM) and closed the month by becoming the fifth Jets/Thrashers player – and second-fastest (541 GP), after Ilya Kovalchuk (500 GP) – to reach the 500-point milestone. Connor additionally placed among the October leaders in game-winning goals (t-1st; 3), power-play goals (t-1st; 4), goals (t-3rd; 9) and shots on goal (t-12th; 40). The 2021-22 Lady Byng Memorial Trophy winner finished the month with four straight multi-point outings (a first in his career), including his seventh career four-point performance (Oct. 28 vs. TOR: 2-2—4) and a three-point effort – capped by the decisive goal – in his native Michigan (Oct. 30 at DET: 1-2—3).
KFC!
We were far to fast for the Jackets. A dominate road win.
Ehlers with a monstrous night.
This team is flyin'!
Really hard working victory and a nice shoutout to Comrie for quietly playing his position with great form
Hat off for the Fly who had a few rewards for his efforts
NE27 is flying, needed this out of him last year in the playoffs.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 02, 2024, 02:11:01 PMNE27 is flying, needed this out of him last year in the playoffs.
It's hard to imagine this team without Ehlers.
Hope we can re-sign him.
That was a good game. 7 different Jets scored. 4th. line had there best game of the season. 2 more goals by our D-men. PP has been excellent. Ref's missed a lot of calls. Hopefully KC81 is okay.
My oh my what a super victory
Nice to see Stanley and Iafallo score
With out a doubt an Ehlers signing is most important
Guess Connor got sent to the locker due to concussion protocol
Quote from: Pigskin on November 03, 2024, 10:35:43 PMThat was a good game. 7 different Jets scored. 4th. line had there best game of the season. 2 more goals by our D-men. PP has been excellent. Ref's missed a lot of calls. Hopefully KC81 is okay.
Sounds like he's fine. Kucherov is such a rancid turd.
Another wicked win to hit 11-1 on the season. How that first Bolts' goal was allowed to stand is bewildering but no matter... This team's resilience is next level.
Speaking of Connor, he extended his franchise-record 12-game point streak.
Quote from: Jesse on November 03, 2024, 12:22:07 AMIt's hard to imagine this team without Ehlers.
Hope we can re-sign him.
He's on a tear! And is now the highest scoring Danish player of all time: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-f-nikolaj-ehlers-forward-becomes-top-danish-player-in-nhl-history-1.2199809
Gotta re-sign him.
Signing Ehlers is definitely a priority.
The issue being, KC is ahead of him on the DC.
So, is he willing to be the best 2nd line LW in the league, or does he want top line somewhere?
Its not like Arneil has him getting way less than first line minutes, and he's on the top PP unit.
He is definitely a difference maker and an amazing talent, and could easily be on the top line of a different team.
The question is, can he be happy here just with $$$, and being second line / top PP?
Because if its just $$$, we should be able to be competitive in that forum.
I certainly hope so.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 04, 2024, 05:30:30 PMSigning Ehlers is definitely a priority.
The issue being, KC is ahead of him on the DC.
What does the former have to do with the latter? Ehlers is a pending UFA; Connor isn't.
(https://i.imgur.com/qUIP2U8.jpeg)
It seems like the league cares about goaltender interference as much as it does player safety.
Tough game. Jets blocked 18 shots, PK was good. Helle with his 39th shutout. NN62 off to a VG start with 7 goals and 12 points.
Another impressive victory. Big game for Niederreiter in the 900th of his career.
12-1! ;D
Solid game by all on the ice and a nice win.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/offence-from-d-corps-true-catalyst-for-jets-quick-start/
QuoteThe Jets' back end has combined for a league-high 45 points. Having Josh Morrissey (16 points) and Neal Pionk (13) in the top five among defencemen scoring is a big reason — their blue-line's collective five-on-five output goes far beyond just those two.
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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 04, 2024, 05:55:44 PMWhat does the former have to do with the latter? Ehlers is a pending UFA; Connor isn't.
KC will be the #1 line LW. Forever.
Does Ehlers want the opportunity to be a #1 LW on a team, or is he content with #2 LW?
That will decide heavily if he resigns here, because if it is the former, there is no chance he signs here..
Quote from: theaardvark on November 06, 2024, 03:23:26 PMKC will be the #1 line LW. Forever.
Does Ehlers want the opportunity to be a #1 LW on a team, or is he content with #2 LW?
That will decide heavily if he resigns here, because if it is the former, there is no chance he signs here..
Ehlers isn't competing with Connor; they're teammates with dedicated roles in the top 6. It's no different than when Scheifele wasn't competing with Dubois when you made the absurd claim the latter was the better player.
These narratives you spout when it comes to the Jets are hilariously off-base.
Ehlers was upset about his minutes last season.
He also clarified that he does not care if he's a 20 minute player, but gets upset when it sinks below 16 minutes.
He's having a great start and minutes have been trending up; so as long as the money is there, I don't think he'll be opposed to signing with us. But can we make the financial side work?
Quote from: Jesse on November 07, 2024, 10:50:26 AMEhlers was upset about his minutes last season.
He also clarified that he does not care if he's a 20 minute player, but gets upset when it sinks below 16 minutes.
He's having a great start and minutes have been trending up; so as long as the money is there, I don't think he'll be opposed to signing with us. But can we make the financial side work?
That's interesting because he's averaging less TOI this season compared to last. Granted, it's marginal but I'd have to think it's immaterial. Especially when you consider he's on pace for a record season by an incredible margin.
I think the Jets will find a way to give him the raise he's earned.
Sure hope so, he's a joy to watch. Salary cap continues to go up...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 06, 2024, 03:31:26 PMEhlers isn't competing with Connor; they're teammates with dedicated roles in the top 6. It's no different than when Scheifele wasn't competing with Dubois when you made the absurd claim the latter was the better player.
These narratives you spout when it comes to the Jets are hilariously off-base.
How can you not understand that 2 LW on the same team are competing for playing time. Or that the #1 LW on a team will get more minutes?
#1LW on the Jets, KC81, gets 19.26 min a nite so far this season
#2LW on the Jets, NE27, gets 15.45 minutes a nite.
#4LW on the Jets AI9 get 11.46.
20% more icetime means 20% more chance to shoot and score. And 20% higher chance to make incentives, records, etc.
Its the reality that what line you are one will dictate your time on ice. And as long as KC81 is on the team, he will get more ice time than NE27.
They are team mates with dedicated roles. Yes. Every player is a team player and makes his contribution to each game and win.
But does N@27 feel his role, subservient to KC81, is satisfactory, or would ha like to be in a position to get #1LW minutes.
Get it now?
Quote from: theaardvark on November 07, 2024, 04:17:27 PMHow can you not understand that 2 LW on the same team are competing for playing time. Or that the #1 LW on a team will get more minutes?
#1LW on the Jets, KC81, gets 19.26 min a nite so far this season
#2LW on the Jets, NE27, gets 15.45 minutes a nite.
#4LW on the Jets AI9 get 11.46.
20% more icetime means 20% more chance to shoot and score. And 20% higher chance to make incentives, records, etc.
Its the reality that what line you are one will dictate your time on ice. And as long as KC81 is on the team, he will get more ice time than NE27.
They are team mates with dedicated roles. Yes. Every player is a team player and makes his contribution to each game and win.
But does N@27 feel his role, subservient to KC81, is satisfactory, or would ha like to be in a position to get #1LW minutes.
Get it now?
The extra time is PP minutes, not because of what lines they're on.
There are times this season where Ehlers has been "game-scripted" out a bit. Based on the success of the #1 PP and because of some road games where Arniel doesn't have the last change and can't line match as well.
This early in the season, that's kept his average minutes lower, but has been trending around 17 when everything goes according to plan. I think that's closer to where he'll be at year end.
Quote from: Jesse on November 07, 2024, 04:53:51 PMThe extra time is PP minutes, not because of what lines they're on.
There are times this season where Ehlers has been "game-scripted" out a bit. Based on the success of the #1 PP and because of some road games where Arniel doesn't have the last change and can't line match as well.
This early in the season, that's kept his average minutes lower, but has been trending around 17 when everything goes according to plan. I think that's closer to where he'll be at year end.
You realize that Ehlers is on the top PP line with Connor this year, right? MS55. KC81, GV13, NE27 and JM44.
Now, if you said PK time, maybe I'd see that a little, but the top line RW who is not on the PK is Valardi at 18:36, and the to[ line C, MS55 is at 20:20
Quote from: theaardvark on November 07, 2024, 04:17:27 PMHow can you not understand that 2 LW on the same team are competing for playing time. Or that the #1 LW on a team will get more minutes?
#1LW on the Jets, KC81, gets 19.26 min a nite so far this season
#2LW on the Jets, NE27, gets 15.45 minutes a nite.
#4LW on the Jets AI9 get 11.46.
20% more icetime means 20% more chance to shoot and score. And 20% higher chance to make incentives, records, etc.
Its the reality that what line you are one will dictate your time on ice. And as long as KC81 is on the team, he will get more ice time than NE27.
They are team mates with dedicated roles. Yes. Every player is a team player and makes his contribution to each game and win.
But does N@27 feel his role, subservient to KC81, is satisfactory, or would ha like to be in a position to get #1LW minutes.
Ugh, not this again.
Ehlers isn't competing for TOI with Connor the same way Namestnikov isn't competing with Scheifele for TOI. They're different players with different roles on this team. Do
you not understand how lines work in professional hockey?
Let's dumb it down:
- Connor plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific opposing forward lines and defensive pairings during a game.
- Ehlers plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific ones as well, but they're different.
You can't just look at TOI and claim that 20% more ice-time absolutely automatically means 20% more shooting chances, much less the same percentage of incentives, records, etc. You're trivializing the complexities of roster/line management, which is impacted by numerous factors from one game to the next.
And Ehlers isn't subservient to Connor. What an incredibly weird thing to say.
Quote from: theaardvark on November 07, 2024, 04:17:27 PMGet it now?
Maybe ask yourself that question first before venturing into this thread and messily trying to dunk on others.
This will be a good test for the Jets tonight.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 07, 2024, 08:45:54 PMThis will be a good test for the Jets tonight.
Makar a GTD. Even if he doesn't suit up, this feels like a trap game.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2024, 08:52:45 PMMakar a GTD. Even if he doesn't suit up, this feels like a trap game.
How could it be a trap game?
These are the Avs. They dunked on us in the play-offs last year. If you can't bring your A game tonight, when will you?
Makar is in.
Fantastic entertainment with a truly terrific ending
Goaltending clinic. All fans got their $$'s worth
Jets had a very good 1st. period but after the 10 minute mark of the 2nd. period the Avalanche were the better team.
Helle with his 40th. shutout. 13-1.
Wow, that was a nail-biter.
Quote from: Jesse on November 07, 2024, 11:23:02 PMHow could it be a trap game?
These are the Avs. They dunked on us in the play-offs last year. If you can't bring your A game tonight, when will you?
I mean, I think the results speak for themselves. By and large the Jets are the better team, but the Avs ran the table for the latter half of last night's game. And if not for Hellebuyck playing out of his mind, I don't think the Jets win.
The offense struggled more often than not last night, to the point Arniel shuffled the top lines.
Trap game, IMO. But they won, which is really all that matters.
13-1 and making history.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/with-back-to-back-shutouts-winnipeg-jets-connor-hellebuyck-named-nhlpa-player-of-the-week-1.2201980
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb31BXQXsAA0plb?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 08, 2024, 01:09:56 PMI mean, I think the results speak for themselves. By and large the Jets are the better team, but the Avs ran the table for the latter half of last night's game. And if not for Hellebuyck playing out of his mind, I don't think the Jets win.
The offense struggled more often than not last night, to the point Arniel shuffled the top lines.
Trap game, IMO. But they won, which is really all that matters.
13-1 and making history.
We might just be getting out definitions messed up.
I consider a trap game a game against an inferior opponent who you play down to.
Colorado is a great team and it was going to be a tough game no matter how well we played.
Quote from: Jesse on November 08, 2024, 06:52:43 PMWe might just be getting out definitions messed up.
I consider a trap game a game against an inferior opponent who you play down to.
Colorado is a great team and it was going to be a tough game no matter how well we played.
Is that not what happened last night?
The Avs have a pretty formidable roster but they're currently dealing with a packed IR. From that standpoint alone, I would argue they're inferior when compared to the Jets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 08, 2024, 07:35:58 PMIs that not what happened last night?
The Avs have a pretty formidable roster but they're currently dealing with a packed IR. From that standpoint alone, I would argue they're inferior when compared to the Jets.
No, I certainly don't consider Colorado an inferior opponent.
Superb victory and so happy that Kupari got another
Shots were 12-2 at one point in favour of Jets but the Stars certainly kept getting better. The game was a HellB show in the third with a lot of careless play by our men
Great history making season so far
14-1 with an absolutely dominant showing over the Stars. 4th line was great and Hellebuyck was excellent yet again.
I can't even with this team right now. ;D
First episode of Runway is a beauty:
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 07, 2024, 07:01:04 PMUgh, not this again.
Ehlers isn't competing for TOI with Connor the same way Namestnikov isn't competing with Scheifele for TOI. They're different players with different roles on this team. Do you not understand how lines work in professional hockey?
Let's dumb it down:
- Connor plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific opposing forward lines and defensive pairings during a game.
- Ehlers plays on a line that is typically deployed against specific ones as well, but they're different.
You can't just look at TOI and claim that 20% more ice-time absolutely automatically means 20% more shooting chances, much less the same percentage of incentives, records, etc. You're trivializing the complexities of roster/line management, which is impacted by numerous factors from one game to the next.
And Ehlers isn't subservient to Connor. What an incredibly weird thing to say.
Maybe ask yourself that question first before venturing into this thread and messily trying to dunk on others.
You are describing the current dynamic. We know all that. That is not the answer to my question.
I am asking a simple question:
Is this role that you describe Ehlers goal to play long term. Is this CURRENT role one that Ehlers is happy with enough to sign here long term. OR, does Ehlers want a different role on a different team. A role with more minutes and more responsibility.
He IS the #2 LW on the Jets, responsibility wise, minutes wise...
Is he happy with that? Or does he want more opportunity without someone parked ahead of him.
We have the budget to sign him for $8mil for 7 years, and should not be shy in offering that. Will someone else covet him more?
Quote from: theaardvark on November 10, 2024, 04:44:27 PMYou are describing the current dynamic.
It's the only dynamic that matters here and now.
Look, if Ehlers and his agent think they can hit UFA at the end of this season to try and get a bigger, better, more lucrative deal elsewhere, that's his prerogative.
But that conversation - either in part or in its entirety - is absolutely, unequivocally irrelevant right now. This team is making history and I am confident saying Ehlers is happy to be part of it and couldn't care less about his hypothetical role or responsibility on another team.
The question you're asking is not one I can answer.
FWIW: I don't think the Jets let him get to UFA.
Another excellent win for the Jets. Now 9 of the next 10 on the road.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 10, 2024, 08:16:56 PMAnother excellent win for the Jets. Now 9 of the next 10 on the road.
omg, really?
Let's go boys. I need nothing to kill my positive sports momentum this week.
Hellebuyck shines at MSG, so I like their chances tomorrow.
This upcoming stretch of games through the rest of November should be good battle testing for this team.
Crazy schedule coming up for the Jets. 3 away and 1 at home. Then 6 away and 1 at home. And then 2 more away before coming home for a couple of games.
Stanley out again with an injury. Will miss at least the next three games.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 12, 2024, 04:31:15 PMStanley out again with an injury. Will miss at least the next three games.
To be re-evaluated after this road trip: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-injury-update-logan-stanley-dealing-with-mid-body-injury-and-isnt-on-the-road-trip/
Projected lines/pairings vs. NYRConnor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Perfetti-Namestnikov-Ehlers
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Miller
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Jets re-claim G Kahkonen off waivers: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-claim-goaltender-kaapo-kahkonen-off-waivers-from-colorado-avalanche-1.2203823
And he's been assigned to the Moose: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-claim-kaapo-kahkonen-off-waivers-can-immediately-assign-him-to-the-moose/
Pretty good road win over a good Rangers team. Only bad part of the game for the Jets was faceoffs.
This is just getting ridiculous.
Quote from: Jesse on November 13, 2024, 11:46:32 AMThis is just getting ridiculous.
In the best way. ;D
15-1! Some absolutely filthy goals last night.
(https://i.imgur.com/KiqFBcM.jpeg)
Not worried about Stanley, odd how confident I am in our D corps this year, after losing one of our best D in Dillion. Pionk fully healed seems to be on a tear, and the 3rd pairing is more than holding its own. be it Stanley (who was on the roster for every one of our loss) or Fleury (undefeated with him in the lineup).
The team doesn't quit, they are hard after the puck, they are working together seamlessly. No roster shakeups or line blendering, they have found their dynamic.
And CH37 has been outstanding, and EC30 undefeated in a backup role, yikes.
On pace for a 76 win season... not bad.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 11, 2024, 02:35:15 PMHellebuyck shines at MSG...
And last night was no exception once again.
I didn't realize how much another Jet shines at MSG: Scheifele.
In 19 games at the iconic venue, he has 15 goals, including four multi-goal games (one last night) and one hat trick, and 5 assists - good for 20 points. Elite through and through. To say nothing about his linemates who are also tearing it up the last couple of weeks.
This team is a juggernaut.
No doubt that yesterday the weakness was faceoffs
Jets lost 15 more than they won and that's terrible
Otherwise, simply a hustling, finish on the chances success
Felt Fleury stepped in and played very well
Tampa smartly brought it and Comrie was our best player
I have only seen the highlights of this game. But, I did hear that Tampa looked much faster then us and kepted us off balance all night. PP was also not VG.
Not the best game, against an opponent on 6 days rest playing at home.
Was hopeful, Comrie was undefeated this year...h well.
Panthers tonight. Big test.
Gotta flush those Florida road games. Pionk just might get a game for that decent but low hip check
Jets falling back to earth in a tailspin
Quote from: Jockitch on November 17, 2024, 02:39:44 AMGotta flush those Florida road games. Pionk just might get a game for that decent but low hip check
$5K for clipping.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 17, 2024, 07:37:56 PM$5K for clipping.
It was a clean hip check... a lost art shouldn't have been fined
Quote from: bluengold204 on November 17, 2024, 02:05:04 PMJets falling back to earth in a tailspin
You are insufferable.
So, from juggernaut to losing 100% of their last 2 games... time to go full rebuild.
Both goalies lost games, can we bring up KK? Will he have to clear waivers if we have to send him back down?
Just kidding, its back to Earth time, and no doubt there will be bumps in the road this season. 2 game losing streak needs to end, though...
I am expecting a physical 1st. period. Also have to be better in front of our net tonight. PP has to be better tonight.
I hope the extra day off helped. Tonight's going to be another good test against the defending champs who embarrassed them just a few nights ago. That loss should serve as motivation.
Projected lines/pairings vs. FLA
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Perfetti-Namestnikov-Ehlers
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Miller
Hellebuyck
Comrie
I'm officially scared.
That Florida team does not have a weakness anywhere in it's lineup and we could not match their intensity, focus, and determination. They manhandled us. I don't know how you overcome that. It reminded me of Colorado in last year's playoffs.
Excellent bounce back win. Building was rocking. 55 with a HT. Helle outstanding.
Not a masterpiece by any means, but a gritty, hard-fought win.
Scheifele with his 9th career hatty; he was on a mission last night. Hellebuyck had a fantastic game, too. Barron's first empty netter was awesome.
The refs could've swallowed their whistles a few times, especially late in the third.
Great team victory and wowee, great entertainment.
Three quality goals by 55 sent many home hatless.
Doesn't really matter how they go in which had everyone so very happy for Barron getting his first 2 of the year.
Road trip now will be another big test
Nov.22. Fri. Penguins. 6pm.
Nov.23. Sat. Predators. 6pm.
Nov.25. Mon. Wild. 7pm.
Nov.27. Wed. Kings. 9pm.
Nov.29. Fri. Knights. 7:30pm.
Dec.1. Sun. Stars. 3:30 pm.
Home for 1 game and back on the road for 2.
TSN Core-4 under 24: https://illegalcurve.com/tsn-core-4-u-24-winnipeg-jets-stocked-with-impressive-forward-depth/
Scheifele belongs on Team Canada at 4 Nations Cup: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-mark-scheifele-belongs-on-team-canada-at-4-nations-face-off/
Impossible to disagree. He's having another fantastic campaign.
Are the Winnipeg Jets really this good? (https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/42487524/nhl-2024-25-winnipeg-jets-surprise-standings-playoffs-stanley-cup-analytics)
Pretty good read and covers a lot.
The Jets totally dominated this game.
4 - 1 Jets over the Kid and the Penguins. Sweet!!
Personally didn't catch the reason why Vilardi was taking the faceoffs, ending with a terrific 12 wins in 16 tries, over the usual job that is #55, who was just 1 for 2.
Anyway, it was a real nice victory, full of hustle and good use of their sticks. Noticed that we had 30 shots recorded with only Appleton and Millar going without a credited shot. That, for me, says a lot on tonight's victory.
Now for Nashville and I would guess Comrie in our net
Quote from: Jockitch on November 23, 2024, 05:06:52 AMPersonally didn't catch the reason why Vilardi was taking the faceoffs, ending with a terrific 12 wins in 16 tries, over the usual job that is #55, who was just 1 for 2.
Anyway, it was a real nice victory, full of hustle and good use of their sticks. Noticed that we had 30 shots recorded with only Appleton and Millar going without a credited shot. That, for me, says a lot on tonight's victory.
Now for Nashville and I would guess Comrie in our net
I read some speculation that Scheif might be dealing with an injury. Missed a practice and then Vilardi was taking face-offs.
Jets looked like they were out of gas midway into the 2nd. period. Samberg with a broken foot is not good for the Jets.
Good timing for Stanley and Heinola coming back...
2-3 in our last five not a good look as we go up against the wild who are nipping at our heels.
Not sure Heinola or Stanley are ready to return yet. So, we might see Coghlan. Losing Samberg will be a big lose for our PK. Samberg blocks a lot of shots.
Hats off to Comrie for battling positionally as well as throwing in countless above average saves.
Definitely agree about how we seemed to not be leading the charge under 1/2 way into the second.
Real unfortunate for team loss in Samberg's foot and of course for him.
Beginning of week I heard that Heinola was likely meeting team this Wed., perhaps they will get him in for the Wild game. Though as said, we do have Coghlan, a young 26 yr. old, rt. shot with some NHL experience.
Pretty bummy loss in Nashville. Boys looked tired and losing Samberg really hurts the blue line. He's been having a strong season, too.
Heinola recalled: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-recall-ville-heinola-from-conditioning-loan-with-moose/
A big opportunity for him, IMO.
Jets' quarter-mark report: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-quarter-mark-report-grades-encouraging-developments-concerns/
Really good analysis of their season so far.
Projected lines/pairings vs. MIN
Connor – Scheifele – Vilardi
Perfetti – Namestnikov – Ehlers
Niederreiter – Lowry – Appleton
Barron – Kupari – Iafallo
Morrissey – DeMelo
Fleury – Pionk
Heinola – Miller
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Like Miller with Heinola, good idea.
Need to see more out of 2nd. line 5 on 5.
CP91: First 3 games TC for him 0 points.
Next 5 games, 9 points.
Last 13 games, 5 points.
VN7: First 3 games, 0 points.
Next 5 games, 6 points.
Last 13 games, 7 points.
No time on the PP.
NE27: First 3 games, 2 points.
Next 5 games, 8 points.
Last 13 games, 13 points.
Samberg out for 6-12 weeks. Every D-man should be wearing either the shoot blockers or even better the skate fender.
Helle with an outstanding night. Kept the Jets in the game until they woke up. Really like how our 4th. line is playing.
Love when the Jets beat the Wild. ;D
Hellebuyck was phenomenal, Iafallo* was excellent (the 4th line in general is playing so well), and I thought Heinola looked pretty comfortable despite it being his first NHL game in a while.
Nice bounceback after an ugly loss in Nashville.
* with his two goals last night, he's cracked 100 in his career
Love how this team responds after a loss. I don't expect to win every night but I do expect us to not tolerate going into a tailspin or get demoralized. We flush it and move on. So fun to watch.
And yes, beating Minnesota in Minnesota - especially in regulation - is one of my favourite outcomes in hockey.
Toninato named Moose Captain.
Was hoping to wake up to a Jets' comeback but no such luck.
Another tough test tomorrow to cap off a busy - but mostly successful - November.
With the 2nd. line not producing any offence, LA was able to focus on shutting down our top unit. Helle was good again only letting in 3 goals. The boy's look tired.
It certainly was a poor performance last night, cept HellB
Beat to the puck, beat up on the boards and on the score sheet
Think and absolutely suggest the Namestnikov experiment at center, on our supposed 2nd line, is over
He's played in all 23 games and truly hustles and offers great spirit and, guessing, leadership.
* However, of his 8 assists he only has recorded 2, that's right, just 2 at even strength
and he's very bad at taking faceoffs at a low 46.9%
Summary -- he's not able to gel with his wings and get them the puck smartly
He might get 19-20 goals this year but even strength assists - Ugh.
Meanwhile his winger Perfetti has a measly 1 goal at even strength in 23 games. Big, Big slump
Love that he is staying healthy and has very good skills
Suggest that Arniel gets Kupari with Ehlers and Perfetti. Presently he is our best at the dot at 55.4%
Also, has 1 less game but 2 more shots then Names without playing on the PP and in far less ice time.
He's a powerful skater who competes in all areas.
Please make the move coach or consider Vilardi on second line at C., and moving Appleton with Scheif and our Sniper, while Names can play with Lowry
Quote from: Pigskin on November 28, 2024, 04:33:32 PMWith the 2nd. line not producing any offence...
Struggling noticeably the last handful of games. That isn't a good sign, IMO.
Quote from: Jockitch on November 28, 2024, 04:50:59 PMSuggest that Arniel gets Kupari with Ehlers and Perfetti.
Breaking up the 4th line seems like a bad idea. I also doubt Kupari could handle the duties of getting bumped into the top 6.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 28, 2024, 05:05:15 PMStruggling noticeably the last handful of games. That isn't a good sign, IMO.
Breaking up the 4th line seems like a bad idea. I also doubt Kupari could handle the duties of getting bumped into the top 6.
So, what do we do to improve our 2nd. line.
Quote from: Pigskin on November 28, 2024, 09:28:29 PMSo, what do we do to improve our 2nd. line.
Probably a question I can't answer, though I think it's reasonable to assert that Kupari isn't the solution.
The second line was a concern heading into the season but that was forgotten with the production of Ehlers, Namestnikov, and Perfetti up until this recent cool-off. And with that said, it could simply be they're tired like the rest of the team after how heavy the last month has been.
CP91 has 6 points in the last 15 games, VN7 has 8 points. They haven't been productive for awhile. So, it was nice to see CP91 finally score.
NE27 injury, not good for this team.
A few breakdown in our D zone. and 15 out of 48 on faceoffs.
Well it was a reasonable game/effort by our guys but if Comrie hadn't kept it close, well it may have been uglier.
Felt Coghlan was decent and hooray for Fetts bulging the twine twice
Concern in the dot as our results have been poor these past series of games
Used past 10 games of which we won 4. SportsNet totals show we only outdrew our opponents in 2 of the 10 games
Long season but some things have changed, including Scheif now not taking any or bare minimum draws
A tough night - again. Every error the Jets made proved costly. Even a loser point would've been nice. It was great to see Perfetti pot a couple, though.
9-5 through their toughest month is impressive but losing Samberg and Ehlers is rough. And Scheifele seems to be playing through some kind of injury (shoulder?), which could explain his absence in the FO circle.
Should be interesting to see how Arniel and co. prepare for another good divisional test tomorrow.
Effort was maybe good enough but certainly gave up a lot of odd man rushes. Officiating really was questionable
Arniel had some juggling going on for a few consecutive games now we shall see whether he tries to start the next game with some new alignment
A 15000 KM road trip and now we are home for 1 game again. Crazy schedule.
Dec.3. Home to the Blues.
Dec.5. Away in Buffalo.
Dec.7. Away in Chicago.
Dec.8. Home to Blue Jackets.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 02, 2024, 01:21:08 AMEffort was maybe good enough but certainly gave up a lot of odd man rushes. Officiating really was questionable
Arniel had some juggling going on for a few consecutive games now we shall see whether he tries to start the next game with some new alignment
Yes, we had some D breakdowns.
PP not very good lately.
PK was excellent.
Not going to win many games scoring 1 goal.
Thinking Ville gets back in over Stanley next game... Stanley had some good plays, but thay long stick seems to get him in trouble...
Sure, he won't get better in the press box, and we need him in the top 6, maybe a "conditioning stint" with the Moose?
Once Samberg comes back, Stanley will back in the press box. Miller and Fleury both have out played him.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 02, 2024, 09:22:00 PMOnce Samberg comes back, Stanley will back in the press box. Miller and Fleury both have out played him.
Yes, but that's not the point. They want to develop Stanley. Yes, Miller and Fleury are better now, but Stanley has more upside and is more long term.
Ville and Stanley are the future. Miller and Fleury are placeholders. Doing a great job, but not permanent solutions.
Not yet.
44 2
4 54
64 14
Salomonsson coming up
52 24 6 are nice third pair fill in role playing guys that you need due to injuries, but they aren't the future.
Quote from: theaardvark on December 02, 2024, 10:42:54 PMYes, but that's not the point. They want to develop Stanley. Yes, Miller and Fleury are better now, but Stanley has more upside and is more long term.
Ville and Stanley are the future. Miller and Fleury are placeholders. Doing a great job, but not permanent solutions.
Not yet.
44 2
4 54
64 14
Salomonsson coming up
52 24 6 are nice third pair fill in role playing guys that you need due to injuries, but they aren't the future.
Miller is signed with the Jets for the next 2 years at $1.5 M per He's not going anywhere. 64 and 14 both have a lot to prove before they crack this line up on an everyday bases. Stanley is far to slow, makes a lot of mistakes in the D zone, and takes to many penalties. He has a long ways to go. Heinola, if he can stay healthy has some upside.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 02, 2024, 01:21:08 AMEffort was maybe good enough but certainly gave up a lot of odd man rushes. Officiating really was questionable
Some costly miscues in the last few games for sure. They gotta get back to playing strong in the defensive zone and not force offense.
The refs were brutal on Sunday.
Ehlers placed on IR, F Lambert called up from the Moose: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-place-nikolaj-ehlers-on-ir-recall-brad-lambert/
Good opportunity for Lambert, IMO.
Projected lines/pairings tonight vs. STL:
Connor-Namestnikov-Scheifele
Perfetti-Lambert-Vilardi
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Fleury-Pionk
Stanley-Heinola
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Quote from: theaardvark on December 02, 2024, 10:42:54 PMYes, but that's not the point. They want to develop Stanley. Yes, Miller and Fleury are better now, but Stanley has more upside and is more long term.
Ville and Stanley are the future. Miller and Fleury are placeholders. Doing a great job, but not permanent solutions.
Not yet.
44 2
4 54
64 14
Salomonsson coming up
52 24 6 are nice third pair fill in role playing guys that you need due to injuries, but they aren't the future.
Stanley is 26 and on his 7th year in the organization (2 with the Moose and 5 with the Jets).
This is him developed. He is what he is and it suuuuuuuuuucks.
Haven't heard much on NE27 injury. But, I do like bring up Lambert.
Need to get the PP back on track, and stay out of the penalty box.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 03, 2024, 05:13:17 PMHaven't heard much on NE27 injury. But, I do like bring up Lambert.
Need to get the PP back on track, and stay out of the penalty box.
Arniel said he's hoping for the 7-10 day range.
Well, something isn't right with this team lately.
I thought Lambert looked comfortable out there last night, but that rings pretty hollow with how the game went. 11 SOG through 40 mins. isn't going to cut it, and that's exacerbated by the poor defensive play.
From the wagon to the struggle bus. :-\
3-7 in our last 10. Our lucky start is long over and back to mediocrity at best.
"Lucky start." LOL
What a braindead comment.
On the road again. Not sure how this one will go tonight. First thing is to get back to playing smart in their own end, IMO.
Projected lines/pairings tonight vs. BUF:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Namestnikov-Lambert-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Iafallo
Gustafsson
Morrissey-Pionk
Fleury-DeMelo
Stanley-Heinola
Hellebuyck
Comrie
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Can't say that I am pleased to see Stan paired with Ville again
Really hoping that Lambert has another, IMO, very positive game.
Watching with eyes on Sabres, Dylan Cozens, who is not showing good numbers but he is a 2nd line center candidate, who for me has terrific upside.
Good energy by the Jets tonight. 81/55/13 all had a very good game. Helle was great when he needed to be.
Nice that they found some offense last night, but the defensive zone play still concerns me.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 06, 2024, 01:09:01 PMNice that they found some offense last night, but the defensive zone play still concerns me.
All I want now is for them to tread water until the winter break. Try not to completely fall flat on their faces.
Felt it really was a terrific effort from all 4 lines and what's not to like about Fleury's game
Excellent game for the Jets. Pressure all night long. Nice road win. Now jump on a plane and get home for a 5 pm game tomorrow. Crazy schedule.
I thought Lambert looked much better in his game. Jets first team to 20 wins.
I figured the Jets would run out of gas in the third. I was hoping we were up by one or two goals by then. 1st. unit PP doesn't work as well with CP91. Need to get NE27 back. 2nd. line has to be more productive. Still to many give away in our D zone.
Geez that was an unfortunate loss to the Jackets
Some decent offensive chances by our #1 line but in turn they were offensive and on for all even strength against
Felt Perfetti and Comrie played well and oh how Lambert will remember that close chance he missed
Another meh effort winds up in the loss column. Shame as I thought Comrie played well enough but the offense couldn't get going.
Our 2nd. line hasn't played well 5 on5 all season. Might be time to upgrade our 2nd. line.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 09, 2024, 06:37:56 PMOur 2nd. line hasn't played well 5 on5 all season. Might be time to upgrade our 2nd. line.
This team hasn't had a consistent 2C in some time. That weakness has been getting exposed as the workload's increased over the last month or so.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 09, 2024, 06:37:56 PMOur 2nd. line hasn't played well 5 on5 all season. Might be time to upgrade our 2nd. line.
Lat's see if we can trade for Ehlers... oh wait...
It would be interesting to see Lambert, Pefetti and Ehlers on a line...
Quote from: theaardvark on December 09, 2024, 09:10:40 PMLat's see if we can trade for Ehlers... oh wait...
It would be interesting to see Lambert, Pefetti and Ehlers on a line...
Lambert headed back to the Moose. He will be replace by Chibrikov.
Projected lines/pairings tonight vs. BOS:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Perfetti-Namestnikov-Chibrikov
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Gustafsson-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Fleury-Pionk
Stanley-Heinola
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Chibrikov on the second line... Right into the fire. Should be a good test for him.
Interested to see how he fares. He's a goal a game player in his NHL career so far...
Dominant win. MS55 lines was outstanding. Jets 4-2 in December. I am sure Mr. Frederic will have to answer to AL17 next time these two meet.
Chib. with two points.
The definition of a dominant performance last night - and something this team needed after a bumpy couple of weeks.
But man, the Bruins are a dirty team. I hope Gus is okay.
With his two goal performance last night, Scheifele has tied the franchise record for most multi-goal games (46).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 11, 2024, 01:28:05 PMThe definition of a dominant performance last night - and something this team needed after a bumpy couple of weeks.
But man, the Bruins are a dirty team. I hope Gus is okay.
With his two goal performance last night, Scheifele has tied the franchise record for most multi-goal games (46).
Yes, Frederic will have to answer for his action next time these teams meet. Kind of an unwritten rules in hockey. Guy's that fight, don't attack non fighters like Gus. Gutless.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 11, 2024, 07:02:47 PMYes, Frederic will have to answer for his action next time these teams meet. Kind of an unwritten rules in hockey. Guy's that fight, don't attack non fighters like Gus. Gutless.
Garbage organization through and through.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 11, 2024, 07:02:47 PMYes, Frederic will have to answer for his action next time these teams meet. Kind of an unwritten rules in hockey. Guy's that fight, don't attack non fighters like Gus. Gutless.
Even more gutless was punching Gus 2 times while he was on the ice.
Big game tonight. Looking forward to this one. Jets need to stay out of the box, and play a complete 60 minute game.
Ugh, sadly the best team won but thankfully our boys salvaged the single point
Cheering always for the Jets but geez where's the improvement needed, other than our top line and HellB, to be going forward
Stupid Vegas.
Vegas was just out played us for most of the game. Far to many giveaways in our D zone again. Helle was great. Our top line was shut down all night long. Bad penalty call for the 5 on 3. NE27 and Samberg will help once they get back.
Questionable call late, but we didn't deserve the single point even...
The one bright spot, Chibrikov... goal a game player so far in his NHL career, Should we get Fetts the babble "Learn Russian" language program, and change his name to Perfetrikov?
Love Chibby's hustle. He should be a mainstay on the big club, IMO.
Hooray our PP came threw twice, our PK shut the door and HellB was the big difference.
However, our boys, other then the 1st line and a couple shifts here and there, were really lame.
Not sure but the 11 hits we handed out, might have been a season low.
Happy for the victory but not really impressed with the overall effort vs the Habs
I felt Montreal was quicker then us, and really pushed the play in the third period.
We took far to many stupid penalties.
To many giveaway's in our D zone.
Stanley: He's big, but he's also slow, clumsy, and makes a lot of mistakes.
I am hearing PL92 made some comment about Helle having the Paddyflu in previous meetings. Well, tonight PL92 had 7 good looks and Helle shut him down.
Laine's chirps are always entertaining, but Hellebuyck got the final chirp by shutting the door and helping get the win.
Boys still look tired from the heavy schedule, IMO.
Chibby making his case to stay with the big club: https://illegalcurve.com/nikita-chibrikov-making-a-strong-case-to-remain-with-the-winnipeg-jets-however/
Question as to where he fits remains the caveat, though.
In any event, it's not a bad problem to have.
NE27 skating in a regular jersey today. Sounds like he's getting close.
Didn't stay up to watch the end of this one but it was nice to wake up to the end result. ;D
Top line was dynamite.
Not amazing to need a late game comeback against a team like the Sharks, but a win's a win.
Some trivia: Pionk played his 500th NHL game last night. That's pretty impressive considering he was undrafted.
Our stars were definitely our ⭐️⭐️⭐️ tonight
Was not enamoured with Fetts play earlier in season as I thought his 7 points in 2 games was masking his lack of grit. However for me,
he has had a terrific December playing tough, hustling hockey. Really showing off his skilled determination in 5 on 5 play
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 18, 2024, 01:12:48 PMDidn't stay up to watch the end of this one but it was nice to wake up to the end result. ;D
Top line was dynamite.
62/17/22, also had a very good game.
Wasn't a terribly exciting game up until we scored the GWG, but I'm glad I was rewarded for staying up way past my bedtime with a dub.
D Coghlan placed on waivers: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-place-dylan-coghlan-on-waivers/
For the purpose of sending him down to the Moose, which likely means Ehlers or Gustafsson is getting activated off IR.
Comrie deserved better
The boys played badly till 3rd. Then a non urgent PP came up with nothing and voila, a bad Pionk giveaway and crap end
Geez we lack depth scoring
Jets haven't managed to win back-to-back games yet this season.
Comrie has definitely deserved better over his last five starts (all losses).
The defensive zone play continues to be streaky, IMO.
Ehlers not happy with last night: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/nikolaj-ehlers-says-winnipeg-jets-players-need-to-hold-each-other-accountable-1.2222609
Quote"We've got to hold each other accountable for what we're doing out there, and we're not doing that," said Ehlers, who returned to the lineup after missing nine games with a lower-body injury. "We've got some work to do."
Winnipeg didn't record a shot on goal until the 11:28 mark of the first period and were outshot 31-23 in the game.
"We didn't do anything in the first period," Gabriel Vilardi said. "It was just Eric [Comrie], he was the only one playing in the first period."
Quote from: Jockitch on December 19, 2024, 04:55:15 AMComrie deserved better
The boys played badly till 3rd. Then a non urgent PP came up with nothing and voila, a bad Pionk giveaway and crap end
Geez we lack depth scoring
I think you nailed it.
Yager, will be the Captain of Team Canada.
First line: 51 goals
Second Line: 23 goals.
Third line: 25 goals.
Fourth line: 9 goals.
CP91: 6 goals in 34 games. Chib: 2 goals in 4 games.
Defense: 13 goals total.
The fact that third line is outscoring the second line should be cause for concern.
Not having a bonafide 2C helps nothing in that regard.
Chib. back to the Moose.
Quote from: Jesse on December 19, 2024, 11:48:20 PMThat's crazy.
Ehlers' return ostensibly made him the odd man out. Tough position for him considering how comfortable he looked with the big club.
Coghlan cleared waivers, returns to the Moose: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-loan-dylan-coghlan-and-nikita-chibrikov-to-the-moose/
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 20, 2024, 01:10:02 PMEhlers' return ostensibly made him the odd man out. Tough position for him considering how comfortable he looked with the big club.
Coghlan cleared waivers, returns to the Moose: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-loan-dylan-coghlan-and-nikita-chibrikov-to-the-moose/
I get that he might not be ready and getting sent down was the inevitable conclusion.
But just from a player development standpoint; sending a kid down when he's experiencing this much success seems like a buzzkill. Ride the hot hand for a bit. Give him a reward.
We already have a reputation for keeping our young talent down for too long.
Quote from: Jesse on December 20, 2024, 01:40:04 PMI get that he might not be ready and getting sent down was the inevitable conclusion.
But just from a player development standpoint; sending a kid down when he's experiencing this much success seems like a buzzkill. Ride the hot hand for a bit. Give him a reward.
We already have a reputation for keeping our young talent down for too long.
I don't agree with the move, either. But I think the organization's hands were tied here with Ehlers' return and it became a numbers game. I sincerely don't think it had anything to do with him not being ready. He's looked the part in every game he's played in the NHL.
Chibby sitting in the press box doesn't make sense, nor does breaking up the 4th line and putting him there. At least with the Moose he'll get a ton of ice time and can continue developing.
It's not exactly a bad reputation, IMO. Letting prospects develop longer is better than the alternative, especially for a team that needs the draft and develop model in order to succeed.
Chiby develops better on top line minutes with the Moose than 4th line / press box with the Jets. Very, very simple.
But now the jets know if they have a long term injury to a top 6, he's available.
Yager looked good for Canada last night.
Quote from: Pigskin on December 20, 2024, 04:31:52 PMYager looked good for Canada last night.
So excited to watch the WJC this year.
Stanley out again until after Christmas. Samberg getting ready to start skating.
Taking a beating with some blocks that really smarted
Unfortunate as I thought his game had really been improving
HOORAY ..... nice team victory
Arniel really spread the time on ice which was refreshing to see
Connor and Vilardi didn't even register a shot - WOW
Phenomenal win last night. A complete team effort.
Yes, it was a much better effort then the Ducks game. Nice to see the second line finally get a 5 on 5 goal, and NE27 and CP91, both score after a long dry spell. Helle excellent again. I thought Ville looked solid last night.
Monday matinee in the Big Stink (puck drop at 1 pm CST). Not sure how this tilt is going to go later today.
Jets projected lines & D pairings vs. TOR:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Gustafsson-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Fleury-Pionk
Heinola-Miller
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Give it your all boys and create the gift of a Xmas victory
Top line steals the show today. Great win!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on December 23, 2024, 08:38:46 PMTop line steals the show today. Great win!
Agree, to bad we lost Fleury. Did not look good.
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#NHLJets HC Scott Arniel says D Haydn Fleury is day-to-day after suffering what appeared to be a knee injury in the final minute of the second period.
Yeah, where was the supplemental scoring last game. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines were invisible... top line had to carry them.
This team continues to impress with the balance they bring. Any given day, any line can be hot. No doubt, however, they are a middling team without CH37 between the pipes, 20+ goals saved above expected. So glad he's here long term.
Scheifele playing with a vengeance after 4 Nations snub (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-scheifele-playing-with-a-vengeance-after-4-nations-snub/)
QuoteSince Dec. 4 (when the 4 Nations rosters were announced), Scheifele is tied for the second most goals (eight), ranks seventh in points (15) and only Auston Matthews and William Nylander have recorded more five-on-five high-danger shot attempts than him (17).
He's pretty good.
Great beat down, woweee what a 1st line we have, in Stinktown.
No doubt that our checkers on the 3 lines came to play and our Stars did the rest
Do hope Fleury is not out long
Dec. 28 Sens. @ Jets.
Dec. 30 Preds. @ Jets.
Dec. 31. Jets @ Ava. Back to back, with travel.
Then we start off January with 8 home games in a row.
Just took a quick scan and saw that Colby Barlow might be heating up after a slow start to his Oshawa season
Potted 9 goals in the past 10 games with 4 assists
Meanwhile Lambert with the Moose has Zero points in
the past 10 games while being a poor. -9.
Quote from: Jockitch on December 26, 2024, 06:36:45 PMJust took a quick scan and saw that Colby Barlow might be heating up after a slow start to his Oshawa season
Potted 9 goals in the past 10 games with 4 assists
Meanwhile Lambert with the Moose has Zero points in
the past 10 games while being a poor. -9.
The Moose in general are having a terrible season.
Samberg, back skating with the Jets this morning.
Quick pop up stated that Fleury is now week to week
Quote from: Jockitch on December 27, 2024, 09:08:39 PMQuick pop up stated that Fleury is now week to week
Yes, that injury didn't like a day to day injury. Coghlan back with the Jets.
Terrific victory and of course led by our main stars
It'd sure be nice to avenge that ugly loss back in late November and really take the boots to the Preds tonight.
Scheifele named 1st star of the week: https://www.nhl.com/news/scheifele-dahlin-werenski-named-nhl-3-stars-of-week-december-30
QuoteFIRST STAR – MARK SCHEIFELE, C, WINNIPEG JETS
Scheifele registered 4-2—6 in two games to lift the Jets (26-10-1, 53 points) to a perfect week and an 8-2-1 record in their past 11 contests dating to Dec. 5. He posted 3-1—4, including his 10th career hat trick (all w/ WPG) and sixth game-winning goal of the season, in a 5-2 victory against the Toronto Maple Leafs Dec. 23. Scheifele became the second player in franchise history to accumulate at least 10 career hat tricks, following Ilya Kovalchuk (11), as well as the fifth different Jets/Thrashers player to score three goals in a single period (doing so in the final frame). He followed that with 1-1—2, his 13th multi-point performance of 2024-25 through 37 total appearances, in a 4-2 triumph over the Ottawa Senators Dec. 28. The 31-year-old Scheifele has compiled 22-22—44 overall this season, placing among the League leaders in game-winning goals (t-2nd; 6), shooting percentage (minimum: 1 SOG/GP – 5th; 25.9%), goals (t-5th; 22) and points (14th; 44). He and the Jets will face the Nashville Predators tonight on "Prime Monday Night Hockey" (7:30 p.m. ET, Prime, FDSNSO).
OB Live came thru as did our wonder boys HOORAY !!!
What a great win tonight. Total team win.
Man, they can start writing Helle's name on the Vezina.
I'd start saying Hall of Fame if we had any play-off success.
A complete team victory with Hellebuyck leading the charge.
9-0-1 in his last 10 GP, with a .937 SV%, 1.70 GAA, and 2 shutouts. Strong case to be player of the month for December with such a sparkling stat line. Not to mention he's now one win away from 300 in his career. Another Vezina seems inevitable at this point.
Vilardi's having a great season and his role on PP1 can't be overstated.
This is a really good team.
I'm not sure I prefer playing 0-0 hockey for most of 2 periods, 1-0 hockey for some more before finally pulling away.
Maybe just salting it away early with 3 goals in the first 5 minutes makes for less stress. Less excitement, sure, but less stress. Especially against the Preds, who regardless current standings, have Soros and some high powered talent, and have been a nemesis in the past.
Saros always plays well against the Jets. Lauzon took 3 penalties, I thought MS55 did a great job getting under his skin. Coughlan play well. Nothing fancy, but he also does give the puck away.
About what I expected. 3 games in 4 nights, 3 hours flight. Wasn't much left in the tank in the 3rd.
MA22 week to week with lower body injury. Sucks, Mason was having a good year.
Really hope that Ehlers plays with Lowry and Niño next game.
Things just weren't that positive with Fetti and Names
Don't recall if #2 came back after he left the ice hurt
Comrie was terrific
The Jets sure struggle in back-to-backs this season. I feel bad for Comrie.
Quote from: Jockitch on January 01, 2025, 04:33:22 PMReally hope that Ehlers plays with Lowry and Niño next game.
Things just weren't that positive with Fetti and Names
Don't recall if #2 came back after he left the ice hurt
Comrie was terrific
So, in a contract year when you are trying to sign a guy who wants minutes, demoting him to the 3rd line is the answer?
Maybe flipping Namestikov for Lowry, or even Gustafson might be a better option. Fetts needs to get the minutes, so does Ehlers.
Ehlers has 12.79 TOI in the last 10 games. I know he gets no PK time, and they've had some time in the box, but still. That's less than anyone on the third line.
Or, maybe its time to put Fetts in the middle and put Nino on his other wing. Or even Kupari, put speed together.
If you're going to blender the lines, make it so that Ehlers gets minute.
Let's avoid the witless narratives, shall we?
Since returning to the lineup on Dec. 18th, Ehlers is averaging 15:00 TOI in those six games, which is roughly in line with the rest of his season (15:06). Arniel opting for the blender was clearly in response to how poorly the top 6 was playing on NYE, and Arniel doing so was clearly isolated to that one game.
Because the lines are more or less back to normal as of this morning.
Projected lines/pairings vs. ANA:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Iafallo
Barron-Gustafsson-Kupari
Toninato
Morrissey-DeMelo
Stanley-Pionk
Heinola-Miller
Samberg-Coghlan
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Good to see DeMelo is no worse for wear after that blocked shot on NYE.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 02, 2025, 04:57:55 PMLet's avoid the witless narratives, shall we?
Since returning to the lineup on Dec. 18th, Ehlers is averaging 15:00 TOI in those six games, which is roughly in line with the rest of his season (15:06). Arniel opting for the blender was clearly in response to how poorly the top 6 was playing on NYE, and Arniel doing so was clearly isolated to that one game.
Because the lines are more or less back to normal as of this morning.
Projected lines/pairings vs. ANA:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Iafallo
Barron-Gustafsson-Kupari
Toninato
Morrissey-DeMelo
Stanley-Pionk
Heinola-Miller
Samberg-Coghlan
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Good to see DeMelo is no worse for wear after that blocked shot on NYE.
My response was the the blender changes Jockitch referred t. I was giving my alternate idea for stimulating the second line rather than demoting Ehlers to the third line...
But, the third line has been more productive then the so called 2nd. all season. So, I was okay with NE27 playing with 17, 62 for a couple of periods.
Suggestion of Ehlers with Lowry was because he would get better ice time
Incidentally Arniel did put the blender in use
Again the Jets let the Ducks hang around to long and it cost them. CP91 was a -3. need to do something with are so called 2nd. line.
Jets can't find an answer against the lowly Ducks yet again, but I guess a loser point is better than nothing.
They gotta figure out what to do about the second line.
How do we start 2-0 against the Ducks and lose?
That last goal we allowed to force OT was brutal.
Jonathon Toews working out and skating. Could this be a fix for our 2nd. line C position???? Life time 57.3% faceoff win percentage. Plus 148. JT is a true 200 foot player.
According to Moneypuck.com, the Jets second line of Ehlers, Vladislav Namestnikov and Cole Perfetti has generated 2.14 expected goals per 60 minutes — that ranks 50th out of the 54 forward lines that have played at least 150 minutes together this season.
Read this today
Quote from: Pigskin on January 03, 2025, 07:26:56 PMJonathon Toews working out and skating. Could this be a fix for our 2nd. line C position???? Life time 57.3% faceoff win percentage. Plus 148. JT is a true 200 foot player.
He was a 200 foot player. He is now 36 hasn't played since the 2022-2023 season and was dealing with health issues prior to that. Guess it wouldn't hurt to take a look (if we even can, not sure his contract status), but I wouldn't expect much.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 03, 2025, 07:26:56 PMJonathon Toews working out and skating. Could this be a fix for our 2nd. line C position???? Life time 57.3% faceoff win percentage. Plus 148. JT is a true 200 foot player.
I don't expect him to ever skate again.
Even if he does get a try out somewhere, if he represents an upgrade to our 2nd line at this point in his life, we are much worse off than I thought.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 02, 2025, 04:11:18 PMSo, in a contract year when you are trying to sign a guy who wants minutes, demoting him to the 3rd line is the answer?
Maybe flipping Namestikov for Lowry, or even Gustafson might be a better option. Fetts needs to get the minutes, so does Ehlers.
Ehlers has 12.79 TOI in the last 10 games. I know he gets no PK time, and they've had some time in the box, but still. That's less than anyone on the third line.
Or, maybe its time to put Fetts in the middle and put Nino on his other wing. Or even Kupari, put speed together.
If you're going to blender the lines, make it so that Ehlers gets minute.
Just sayin...
The Wings shut down our top line and the rest was _______ .
Another slow start. PK not looking good without Apps, Fleury, and Samberg. PP had a number of good looks, need to finish. 4 goal post. CP91 needs a little puck luck.
Quote from: DM83 on January 06, 2025, 11:30:13 PMSame old, same old.
Cheveldayoff and the loser scouts.
Since 2019 the team has needed a second line. Center and a tough defenseman.
Chevy can not do it. Team is really awful. Fluke start. Now we are below 500 since the. Steak ended.
Zebinejad in New York, the kid in Utah, Kadrei in Calgary.
The fourth line is awful. Who's the guy with two empty net goals? Who's the guy from ? Sweden or Finland? What's that kids name that never comes off the boards, perfetti? And what about that giant defenseman who does nothing. Plus the human turnover Boink.
The team is a few moves away, but Cheveldayoff doesn't bring any character guys in, and if he does, he can't sign them.
I gave up my 10 pack a couple years ago. Now my friends and I don't even watch the I goal team
Outshot 20-8 every first period is rediculous. If those thieves on the. Fourth line don't want to drive the net, body check, forcjeck and take their. Man in the defensive zone, why are they here. And it's been like that for six years.
This management , scouts and Chevy can't tell a character guy from a beer league guy.
Yeah, the team SUCKS this year.
Oh, wait...
NP4 is 6th on the team in scoring. He's not our problem on D. However if we could move him for a bigger shutdown D-man with some term left, like Ristolainen, I would.
CP91 has been disappointing. 23 points 7th on the team in scoring. 12 of those points have come on the PP. Time for him to step up or I would also be looking to move him for for a big RW or C.
Love VN7, but he's no 2nd. line C. Jets need to improve that position. VN7 would look good at 4th line C.
Getting back Samberg, and Fleury will help our D play, and PK.
Bad news for Miller. Out a couple weeks with fractured larynx
I am definitely in Pigskin camp to bring in Ristolainen and if Pionk goes the other way, so be it.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 07, 2025, 03:50:16 AMYeah, the team SUCKS this year.
Oh, wait...
Not really the burn you think it is unless they can do something in the play-offs.
Jets got their 2 minutes in the spotlight with their wicked start to the sesason, now fading to black....
Peds, playing well lately, this will be a battle tonight.
Quote from: Jockitch on January 07, 2025, 05:27:23 PMBad news for Miller. Out a couple weeks with fractured larynx
I am definitely in Pigskin camp to bring in Ristolainen and if Pionk goes the other way, so be it.
Risto 6'4" 215, Cap $5.1M, has 2 more years left on his currently contract. NP4 $5.875 cap, UFA this summer.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 07, 2025, 04:45:36 PMNP4 is 6th on the team in scoring. He's not our problem on D. However if we could move him for a bigger shutdown D-man with some term left, like Ristolainen, I would.
CP91 has been disappointing. 23 points 7th on the team in scoring. 12 of those points have come on the PP. Time for him to step up or I would also be looking to move him for for a big RW or C.
Love VN7, but he's no 2nd. line C. Jets need to improve that position. VN7 would look good at 4th line C.
Getting back Samberg, and Fleury will help our D play, and PK.
Perfetti is about as soft and over rated as they come. A change of scenery would be good for him and us
Good 1st. period, then there was some very undisciplined play. Far to many penalties.
Stanley was terrible all night and then he takes a double minor.
With the help of CH37 the PK was much better tonight.
Helle 3rd. fastest to 300 wins.
PP 1 for 1.
Moe's injury didn't look good.
Great win last night after an ugly little slide to start the new year.
Hellebuyck is a legend.
(https://i.imgur.com/DCTYmXs.jpeg)
Impressive company. What a phenomenal netminder.
Hooray, the PK was efficient in 7 of 8 killings
HellB was our best Jet with congrats to Heinola on his first point in seemingly forever.
Thank you Chicago for handing the Avs a surprise loss ...... which certainly helps the Jets
Sounds like Morrissey is okay; listed day-to-day. I don't think the Jets could afford to lose him for any period of time.
On the plus side, Samberg sounds all but ready to return.
And on the AHL side, Salomonsson made the all-star team. He's a good prospect.
Practice Report for Jan. 9th (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-practice-report-489/)
QuoteGood news that Josh Morrissey is skating. So is Dylan Samberg for a third straight day and looks like a player. Haydn Fleury out there in a yellow, non-contact.
Ya love to see it.
Jets prospect 6'6" 212, 18 year old, Kieron Walton is having a very good year in Sudbury. 37 Games. 24G, 42A, 66 points.
This kid has all the tools. Size, speed, and a good shot. He also handles the puck very well.
Projected lines/pairings vs. LAK:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Iafallo
Barron-Gustafsson-Kupari
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Stanley-Coghlan
Comrie
Hellebuyck
Hellebuyck will play tomorrow in another key division tilt vs. the Avalanche.
Nice night for Helleb and family. 500 games, 300 wins, and over 40 shutouts.
Comrie played well again but no win.
2nd. line missing in action again tonight. Time to make some changes.
Will be another tough battle tonight Ava's 8-1-1 in the there last 10.
Other hot teams, Red Wings 6W, Stars 6w, Kings 5W, Montreal 3W.
What a great win for the jets tonight. Shut down a very good team. Nice to see NE27 final score a 5 on 5 goal. CP91 really needs to get that monkey off his back. What a set up by NN62.
Many positives from the victory. We most definitely had team defence asserting itself and thus a nice shutout
Yes, it was great to see the Fly open the scoring
Was pleased with #15's effort and Lowry had a solid game
Hellebuyck in the Hart discussion...? I'd say so.
The Vezina's his to lose at this point (https://www.nhl.com/news/vezina-trophy-tracker-jets-connor-hellebuyck-favorite).
With as many shutouts as losses, yeah, Hart/Vezina looks like a lock if he can keep it up. Its sad that Comrie is getting saddled with so many losses with zero run support. I wonder how bad the guys feel for him...
Hellebuyck named First Star of The Week: https://www.nhl.com/news/hellebuyck-staal-kane-named-nhl-3-stars-of-week-january-13
QuoteFIRST STAR – CONNOR HELLEBUYCK, G, WINNIPEG JETS
Hellebuyck became the third-fastest goaltender in NHL history to reach the 300-win milestone, going 2-0-0 with a 1.00 goals-against average, .960 save percentage and one shutout to help the Jets (29-12-3, 61 points) pad their lead atop the Central Division. He made 26 saves, including 11 in the third period, to record his 300th career victory in a 5-2 triumph versus the Nashville Predators Jan. 7. At 538 games, Hellebuyck became the third-fastest goaltender to achieve the milestone, behind only Andrei Vasilevskiy (490 GP) and Jacques Plante (521 GP). The reigning Vezina Trophy winner then stopped all 22 shots he faced in a 3-0 win against the Colorado Avalanche to earn his League-leading sixth shutout of 2024-25, tying a franchise record he established in 2017-18 (67 GP) and matched in 2019-20 (58 GP). The 31-year-old Hellebuyck has appeared in 34 total games this season, topping the NHL (minimum: 14 GP) in wins (26), goals-against average (2.02), save percentage (.928) and shutouts (6). He is seeking to become the fifth goaltender in League history to finish a campaign as the leader in all four categories, a distinction previously achieved by Plante (1958-59 w/ MTL), Ken Dryden (1972-73 w/ MTL), Bernie Parent (1973-74 w/ PHI) and Bob Froese (1985-86 w/ PHI).
HellB is certainly well down the road similar to our much loved Milt Stegall
Should we look forward to Portage Ave being changed ;D
Projected lines/pairings vs. VAN:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Lowry-Iafallo
Niederreiter-Kupari-Perfetti
Toninato-Gustafsson-Barron
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Stanley-Heinola
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Namestnikov listed as day-to-day
Miller skating (non-contact)
CP91 falling down the lineup. 4 points in the last 20 games. It's wake up call.
Torinato had a VG game against the Ava's.
VN7 could be out longer then expected.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/how-an-historical-season-could-earn-connor-hellebuyck-the-vezina-and-hart/
QuoteHellebuyck leads all qualified goaltenders (minimum 10 games played) in wins (26), shutouts (six), goals-against average (2.02) and save percentage (.928). The last goaltender who finished a season atop the league in all four categories was Philadelphia's Bob Froese in 1985-86.
Hellebuyck has saved 25.2 goals above expected this season — five more than the next-closest goaltender, Washington's Logan Thompson (20.2). His most outstanding performance came on Nov. 25, when he prevented 4.61 goals above expected in the Jets' 4-1 win against the Minnesota Wild.
He rarely allows soft goals; opponents have scored seven goals on 305 point shots against him (.977 save percentage). Only two of the seven were not screened. (Fourteen of the 69 total goals allowed by Hellebuyck have come from outside the slot.)
Teams have had some success when forcing Hellebuyck to move from his right to his left. Nine of the 15 seam goals Hellebuyck has allowed this season have come on west-to-east passes (from the shooter's perspective). His .763 save percentage on those shots is not far above the league average of .755 and ranks 33rd out of 62 qualified goaltenders. But it requires that level of nitpicking to find flaws.
Pretty amazing.
Dominate win.
They dismantled the Canucks last night. What a win.
Nice to see Perfetti get on the scoresheet. He needs to do more of that.
I think Vilardi is going to get a handsome raise in the off-season.
Wowee, what a relaxing game to watch. Seemed like there was no reason to be nervous after the first period
Our top 3 were exciting everyone each time they were on the ice
Points for Fetts, Kupari and Niño in a victory, that's gold
Thought Heinola was somewhat more engaged but still can't get over how tentative he has played.
Quote from: Jockitch on January 15, 2025, 04:32:02 PMThought Heinola was somewhat more engaged but still can't get over how tentative he has played.
Stanley playing too confident and Heinola playing to tentative, both will rectify with time. I like the pairing, they both still have upside. They'll never be Buff/Toby, but still...
Quote from: theaardvark on January 15, 2025, 05:07:41 PMStanley playing too confident and Heinola playing to tentative, both will rectify with time. I like the pairing, they both still have upside. They'll never be Buff/Toby, but still...
Stanley gives away the puck far to often, and he's very slow. He should have received an assist on there goal.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 15, 2025, 06:08:26 PMStanley gives away the puck far to often, and he's very slow. He should have received an assist on there goal.
His giveaway last night that led to Hoglander's goal was brutal.
Dominant win. Love to give a good sh!# kicking.
Only downside was Stanley practically single-handedly killing the shutout hope.
Great games for KFC, Helle, Scheif, Vilardi, Fetts...
I wanted that short handed breakaway goal from Lowry though!
Miller close to returning, skated in regular jersey yesterday at practice (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-practice-report-491/).
Quote from: Pigskin on January 15, 2025, 06:08:26 PMStanley gives away the puck far to often, and he's very slow. He should have received an assist on there goal.
Totally agree. He's a turnover machine, costs us goal after goal and is a sloth out there. Not sure why he's in our lineup. Sure he's got size, but he's brutal.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 14, 2025, 06:20:38 PMCP91 falling down the lineup. 4 points in the last 20 games. It's wake up call.
Torinato had a VG game against the Ava's.
VN7 could be out longer then expected.
Never been a Perfetti fan, plays too soft and is invisible out there. 4 points in 20 games, yikes, we can't do better than this??
Quote from: dd on January 16, 2025, 10:19:30 PMNever been a Perfetti fan, plays too soft and is invisible out there. 4 points in 20 games, yikes, we can't do better than this??
Every player can't be an allstar. Every one is going to have his pluses and minuses.
Perfetti has the vision, the awareness. Things that can't be taught. He's growing into his frame, and learning the skills at NHL game speed that will take him to the next level if he can conquer them.
There's no doubt he has the potential to be very, very good. He just needs the time and coaching to get there.
I'm not worried about his future.
2-1 win over the Kraken was a bit of a sleeper. 3-1 loss to the Flames, Wolf was outstanding. Jets have to make a move for a 2nd. line (C). Love AL17, but he is not a a 2nd. line C.
Yes it was unfortunate to lose due to a sensational performance by the Flames tender.
The 2nd line center issue is definitely, IMHO, still there.
We all appreciate Lowry but his skills won't elevate that line
What's Monahan's mindset right now? He went to Columbus before the tragedy, might he want to come back? Can we make a trade for him? Is Columbus looking to retool a bit now?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 20, 2025, 06:08:52 PMWhat's Monahan's mindset right now? He went to Columbus before the tragedy, might he want to come back? Can we make a trade for him? Is Columbus looking to retool a bit now?
Hard pass. That contract is too long and he has a NMC in place right now.
This team does need to bolster its second line, though. Perfetti clearly isn't the answer at 2C.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2025, 06:15:25 PMHard pass. That contract is too long.
This team does need to bolster its second line, though. Perfetti clearly isn't the answer at 2C.
I think CP91 is something like 6 points in the last 22 games. I move him in a heartbeat. Throw in Stanley, and Ville.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 20, 2025, 06:23:37 PMI think CP91 is something like 6 points in the last 22 games. I move him in a heartbeat. Throw in Stanley, and Villa.
Heinola? Disagree. He's worth keeping.
Samberg had a tough night. To many giveaways. Hope AL17 is okay.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 21, 2025, 04:16:57 AMSamberg had a tough night. To many giveaways. Hope AL17 is okay.
Whole team had a rough night looking at the stats sheet. Glad I missed it. Arniel sure wasn't pleased by the embarrassing effort.
Still no update on Lowry, which is a bit concerning. I hope Chevy's got some irons in the fire as we near the mid-winter lull.
Another tough match tomorrow in Denver.
Samberg, Conner, Pionk, Morrissey, etc., etc., etc.. Pew
Connor hasn't played well since he scored the hat trick. $th. line was our best line all night. CP91 looks like he is cruising around just putting in time.
Didn't see AL17 get injured. Could it be a illness?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2025, 06:24:26 PMHeinola? Disagree. He's worth keeping.
Agree. Heinola is only going to get better with more playing time. I really like his game.
Chibrikov out long term with lower body injury.
Poor Chibby. :-[
And Lowry's out, listed week-to-week: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-coach-scott-arniel-says-captain-adam-lowry-out-week-to-week-with-upper-body-injury/
Ugh.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 22, 2025, 07:19:59 PMAnd Lowry's out, listed week-to-week: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-coach-scott-arniel-says-captain-adam-lowry-out-week-to-week-with-upper-body-injury/
Ugh.
Ouch.
Chevy has spoken with Jonathan Toews and would be interested in signing him.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 22, 2025, 07:19:59 PMAnd Lowry's out, listed week-to-week: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-coach-scott-arniel-says-captain-adam-lowry-out-week-to-week-with-upper-body-injury/
Ugh.
Terrible news. Big shoes to fill.
That was a beauty. Really nice bounce back game. Nice to have Apps. back. NP4 with a bomb for the win.
Goalies aren't used to slap shots on a rush circumstance and
Yahoo it was a wonderful result
Great game and super team effort
Jets interested in Toews (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/report-winnipeg-jets-interested-in-bringing-in-former-blackhawks-legend-jonathan-toews-1.2240209)
Mixed feelings about this, to be honest.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 23, 2025, 02:45:31 PMJets interested in Toews (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/report-winnipeg-jets-interested-in-bringing-in-former-blackhawks-legend-jonathan-toews-1.2240209)
Mixed feelings about this, to be honest.
I have no problem bring JT in for try out. He either has it or he doesn't. One of the best FO guys in the NHL. I am also pretty sure JT will not come back unless he is super fit and can play at a high level.
However with that said. I thought VN7, Kupari, and Gus, did a very good job in the FO department last night. I really liked the line of Barron/Gus/Apps. Casper (CP91) might find himself on the bench soon. What's that 6 points in the last 24 games??? CP91 might need a new address to get him going again.
If JT is close to fully healthy, and Lowry has any lingering issues, this is a no brainer.
If JT has no issue with not being an every game 20 min/game player, and will come into the lineup when needed (which might be every game), then we don't need to trade for a 2C, do we?
Utah does us a solid and beats the Wild. Utah is playing well right now.
The JT news is way overblown, imo. Chevy said there was "interest" out of respect. He also said that he needs to prove he can skate first.
Does a soon to be 38 year old who needs to prove he can skate really sound like an option for a team that's first in the central? Or is the the comment of a man who had JT on his team for 3 Stanley Cups and doesn't want to slag him in public?
Quote from: Pigskin on January 24, 2025, 03:24:01 AMUtah does us a solid and beats the Wild. Utah is playing well right now.
Should be a tough test tonight, and I imagine the Jets are wanting some revenge.
Quote from: Jesse on January 24, 2025, 11:01:35 AM...is the the comment of a man who had JT on his team for 3 Stanley Cups and doesn't want to slag him in public?
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/how-adam-lowry-may-have-altered-jets-trade-deadline-plans/
Good read with some in-depth statistical analysis, which really emphasizes Lowry's versatility.
I'd still pursue a 2C prior to the deadline, though.
Quote from: Jesse on January 24, 2025, 11:01:35 AMThe JT news is way overblown, imo. Chevy said there was "interest" out of respect. He also said that he needs to prove he can skate first.
Does a soon to be 38 year old who needs to prove he can skate really sound like an option for a team that's first in the central? Or is the the comment of a man who had JT on his team for 3 Stanley Cups and doesn't want to slag him in public?
We need a FO guy, a Monahan, a Stasny. We have like, 17 centres on this team, and have yet to find a guy who can consistantly win 51% of faceoff...
If JT can "skate" 7-8 minutes a night, be the 4th line C who comes out for big faceoffs, I can't see us not taking him on.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 24, 2025, 02:53:49 PMWe need a FO guy, a Monahan, a Stasny. We have like, 17 centres on this team, and have yet to find a guy who can consistantly win 51% of faceoff...
If JT can "skate" 7-8 minutes a night, be the 4th line C who comes out for big faceoffs, I can't see us not taking him on.
You're really overvaluing Toews. He hasn't played in nearly two years, so to assume he'll just magically become the team's best FO centre is ridiculously presumptuous.
And the team doesn't need a late 30s centre to bolster the 4th line. The bottom 6 is pretty solid already.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2025, 01:25:56 PM(https://media.tenor.com/O25GPsGJ79sAAAAM/deerseason-engaged.gif)
I guess Chevy was just there for Chicago's 1st Stanley Cup, but my point is that he has a lot of respect for Toews' career and wouldn't publically say that he's done as a player and couldn't help us.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2025, 01:25:56 PMShould be a tough test tonight, and I imagine the Jets are wanting some revenge.
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Get on them early, this is a back to back for them.
Quote from: Jesse on January 24, 2025, 03:12:25 PMI guess Chevy was just there for Chicago's 1st Stanley Cup, but my point is that he has a lot of respect for Toews' career and wouldn't publically say that he's done as a player and couldn't help us.
Toews is a first ballot HOFer already, so the respect is certainly warranted. Cheveldayoff would have nothing to gain by saying Toews is done, in public or otherwise.
NE27 camp floating it out there again that he would like to play with his buddy in Montreal.
1- Can Montreal afford adding a couple of $8M contracts to there roster.
2- What is NE27 worth?
3- Is NE27s camp just using Montreal to drive up his signing price.
4- Should we move him now if he's not signing here in the summer.
Lambert back with the Jets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 24, 2025, 02:58:38 PMYou're really overvaluing Toews. He hasn't played in nearly two years, so to assume he'll just magically become the team's best FO centre is ridiculously presumptuous.
And the team doesn't need a late 30s centre to bolster the 4th line. The bottom 6 is pretty solid already.
Not talking about bolstering the bottom 6, but rather bolstering the FO's and maybe the 2nd unit PP, and having him placehold in the bottom six, as he probably can't handle 2C minutes.
Chevy has a responsibility for the roster, but can you imagine the attendance bump Toews would make? We'd be back to sellouts pretty quick, even if its just his family and friends coming ;) .
And how many Toews jerseys would they sell?
Pretty sure Gus gives up his number in a heartbeat...
Quote from: Pigskin on January 24, 2025, 04:35:09 PMNE27 camp floating it out there again that he would like to play with his buddy in Montreal.
1- Can Montreal afford adding a couple of $8M contracts to there roster.
2- What is NE27 worth?
3- Is NE27s camp just using Montreal to drive up his signing price.
4- Should we move him now if he's not signing here in the summer.
He's not goin anywhere unless a boatload comes back. Not saying he is our playoff champion, he seems to disappear then, but he's a part you cannot trade, unless you get something really good back, including something you cna then trade to replace him with.
If he has no interest in re-signing here, he becomes an "Own Rental". He's the kind of player teams would give up a first rounder for to complete the season. So, basically, we're getting a first rounder by not trading him.
That said, only Chevy knows what Ehlers' status is, and his chances of signing him. If chances of him staying are slim, and we get a chance to swap him to a team that can re-sign him in exchange for a 2nd line rental player that excels in the playoffs and a draft pick/prospect as a sweetener, pull the trigger.
I want Ehlers to be a long term fixture in Winnipeg. I love his play, he's fun to watch. But I used to like Burmistrov too, they're just that kind of unexpected wheee. But if he's not re-signing and wants to test FA, and you can get a better playoff performer back for him, he's better as a trade than an own rental, IMHO.
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KFC-Scheif-Vilardi
Ehlers-Barzal-Perfetti
Neidereiter-Lowry-Appleton
Namestnikov-Toews-Iaffalo
Quote from: blue_or_die on January 24, 2025, 08:44:24 PMKFC-Scheif-Vilardi
Ehlers-Barzal-Perfetti
Neidereiter-Lowry-Appleton
Namestnikov-Toews-Iaffalo
Are we talking Matthew Barzal with a $9.1M cap hit. 2025: 6 G, 12 A.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 24, 2025, 09:06:00 PMAre we talking Matthew Barzal with a $9.1M cap hit. 2025: 6 G, 12 A.
Is there some extenuating circumstances around those numbers or just a down year?
Quote from: Pigskin on January 24, 2025, 09:06:00 PMAre we talking Matthew Barzal with a $9.1M cap hit. 2025: 6 G, 12 A.
9.1 mil cap hit, until 2031...
The Good: PP: 1/1, PK: 2/3. 2nd. line with 7 points. CP91 finally gets the monkey off his back after 14 games with a hat trick. NE27 hits 500 points.
The Bad: A few to many giveaways and few bad break downs in the D-zone.
The Ugly: A number of players are not feeling well.
Happy for #91 cuz those results are much better than goalposts
Ehlers and DeMelo definitely deserved stars with Fetts but
certainly want to send kudos for Kupari
Hoping Ehlers won't get moved like Raantanen did tonight
This is a sad stat. Parker Ford leads the Manitoba Moose with 8 goals.
If you are PVRing the game, check it quick, the channel I was recording was blacked out.. missed the first 8 min...
Good solid win for the Jets. GV13 had a big night. Nice to see Comrie get the win. Love the play of our 4th. line.
Perfetti with a hatty (Friday) and Comrie gets a much-deserved win (yesterday). Top line had 9 points yesterday and it was good to see the offense show up for a change with Comrie between the pipes.
Nice weekend for the Jets!
On to Montreal to play a much improved Montreal team.
Jets recall F Lambert from the Moose (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-recall-brad-lambert-from-the-moose-2/)
NE27: UFA 2025/26. $6M
AI9: UFA 2025/26. $4M
MA22: UFA 2025/26. $2.166M
VN7: UFA 2025/26. $2M
NP4: UFA 2025/26. $5.87M
HF24: UFA 2025/26. $750K
GV13: RFA 2025/26. $3.437M
DS54: RFA 2025/26. $1.4M
MB36: RFA 2025/26. $1.350M
RK15: RFA 2025/26. $1M
KC81: UFA 2026/27. $7.142M
My Guesses
NE27: UFA 2025/26. $6M $8mil/4 years
AI9: UFA 2025/26. $4M -
MA22: UFA 2025/26. $2.166M $2.5/3 years
VN7: UFA 2025/26. $2M -
NP4: UFA 2025/26. $5.87M $6.0 4 years
HF24: UFA 2025/26. $750K -
GV13: RFA 2025/26. $3.437M $4.5 2 yr bridge or $6.75 5 years
DS54: RFA 2025/26. $1.4M $3.0 2 year bridge or $4.5 5 years
MB36: RFA 2025/26. $1.350M $2.0 whatever term he wants
RK15: RFA 2025/26. $1M $2.0 2yr
KC81: UFA 2026/27. $7.142M $9.5 7 years
There's a case to be made for signing Samberg long-term: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-should-ink-impressive-samberg-to-long-term-deal/
QuoteNot only does he rank seventh in takeaways per 60 minutes (1.83) among defencemen, but according to data tracked by AllThreeZones.com, Samberg ranks seventh in zone denials per 60 (4.20). Oh, and he's recorded the 20th-most penalty kill blocks per 60 minutes (10.48) among defencemen (minimum 50 minutes).
$5M or so for 7-8 years...?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 27, 2025, 09:50:18 PMMy Guesses
NE27: UFA 2025/26. $6M $8mil/4 years
AI9: UFA 2025/26. $4M -
MA22: UFA 2025/26. $2.166M $2.5/3 years
VN7: UFA 2025/26. $2M -
NP4: UFA 2025/26. $5.87M $6.0 4 years
HF24: UFA 2025/26. $750K -
GV13: RFA 2025/26. $3.437M $4.5 2 yr bridge or $6.75 5 years
DS54: RFA 2025/26. $1.4M $3.0 2 year bridge or $4.5 5 years
MB36: RFA 2025/26. $1.350M $2.0 whatever term he wants
RK15: RFA 2025/26. $1M $2.0 2yr
KC81: UFA 2026/27. $7.142M $9.5 7 years
Can't give DS54 a 2 year bridge deal as he only has 1 year left on RFA. Time to sign this kid long term.
Slow start, but another good road win.
Leading the league - 2 points up on Washington. Not bad at all.
My gosh, how after a turtle like start (course HellB was other World), the boys put in a solid team effort.
So very much enjoyed this victory
Quote from: Pigskin on January 29, 2025, 03:21:02 AMSlow start, but another good road win.
The Jets dominated the second period and never looked back.
A five-point night for the top line, Hellebuyck was marvelous again, and team discipline was sound virtually all game.
Great road win.
Illegal Curve Next Day Takeaways (https://illegalcurve.com/next-day-takeaways-3-thoughts-as-the-winnipeg-jets-top-line-stays-hot-in-4-1-win-over-montreal/)
QuoteSince December 4th, they are 17-6-3, which is tied with the Washington Capitals for the second-best record in the NHL over that time, trailing only the Edmonton Oilers.
Compared to the rest of the NHL during that stretch, they are second in goals for per game (3.42), third in goals against per game (2.23), first in power play percentage (36.5%), first in five-on-five goal share (63.33%), and eighth in five-on-five expected goals percentage (54.18%).
The narrative that this team has been mediocre since their elite start can officially be put to bed, as they have proven over the past month and a half that they can beat elite teams and play consistently, and the results have shown just that.
The Jets are also 24-6-1 with Dylan Samberg in the lineup this season...
Looking at those stats like:
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Just like they did with Morrissey back in 2019, they gotta lock up Samberg long-term post-haste.
Morning Papers Jan 30th (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-morning-papers-4438/)
Barron placed on IR, Ford likely to take his place. More to come after today's morning skate (10:30AM CST).
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/in-an-era-of-inconsistent-goaltending-winnipeg-jets-connor-hellebuyck-stands-alone
Some absolutely mind-boggling stats.
Hellebuyck's pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 30, 2025, 01:21:19 PMMorning Papers Jan 30th (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-morning-papers-4438/)
Barron placed on IR, Ford likely to take his place. More to come after today's morning skate (10:30AM CST).
C'mon.
Feels like everytime a player has a good game or starts to put it together, they hit the IR.
Quote from: Jesse on January 30, 2025, 02:33:29 PMC'mon.
Feels like everytime a player has a good game or starts to put it together, they hit the IR.
I didn't even know he got hurt in Montreal. The team's been really quiet in that regard, which is somewhat concerning.
Sounds like he will be out for a week. I did see him block a couple of shots. Could be related to that???
Quote from: Pigskin on January 30, 2025, 04:39:13 PMSounds like he will be out for a week. I did see him block a couple of shots. Could be related to that???
Confirmed by Arniel this morning (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-update-on-morgan-barron-is-that-he-is-out-week-to-week/), listed as week-to-week.
Seems like a safe bet he got hurt blocking shots.
Another road win for the Jets. Nice total team effort. Now on to Washington, this should be a good game.
Were the Jets that tenacious ....... probably yes and the Bruins just sloppy
However, a great Victory it was
Congrats to young Ford
That early SHG in the third could've been a turning point, but this team said no and imposed their will. Scheifele had monster game and watching Ford get his first NHL goal with family and friends in attendance was pretty special.
Since Arniel called them out after that loss in Utah, this team has been playing some excellent hockey.
And they're back atop the league standings, which makes tomorrow's tilt in DC all the more interesting.
Ehlers is a playmaker just from his ability to change the flow of the play in a heartbeat. I just love watching him take it end to end, or around the O zone and then make the no look pass tape to tape for an open chance...
I don't know how we re going to keep him with KC ahead of him on the DC. Someone is going to give him first line time and money. Lets enjoy him while we can.
The Jets have won 9 games in every calendar month of the 2024-25 season so far.
Model of consistency.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 04:13:14 PMI don't know how we re going to keep him with KC ahead of him on the DC. Someone is going to give him first line time and money.
That's pure speculation at this moment in time. If some random GM wants to pay Ehlers a fortune to try and plug him in to a dedicated top line role, the Jets lose him. But it remains to be seen if Ehlers is a bonified top line winger; Connor has established himself as such. It's difficult to know if a GM out there is willing to take that gamble.
Is it reasonable to compare the two apples to apples? They're both top 6 wingers, but their respective playing style and skill sets do set them apart in unique ways.
4. Hellebuyck
10. Connor
17. Scheifele
25. Morrissey
No other team has four players in the top 25.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 31, 2025, 04:47:31 PMThe Jets have won 9 games in every calendar month of the 2024-25 season so far.
Model of consistency.
That's pure speculation at this moment in time. If some random GM wants to pay Ehlers a fortune to try and plug him in to a dedicated top line role, the Jets lose him. But it remains to be seen if Ehlers is a bonified top line winger; Connor has established himself as such. It's difficult to know if a GM out there is willing to take that gamble.
Is it reasonable to compare the two apples to apples? They're both top 6 wingers, but their respective playing style and skill sets do set them apart in unique ways.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get Ehlers for 8 years, $8mil here. But there are 31 GM's out there trying to upgrade, and he's an upgrade on at least some of the 1RW out there.
Does he fit better at #2RW? It probably lets him play his style a lot more.
Some mention of him wanting to play with Liane... might be a mistake going to Montreal long term for that, who knows how long Liane will be playing.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 31, 2025, 05:39:32 PM
4. Hellebuyck
10. Connor
17. Scheifele
25. Morrissey
No other team has four players in the top 25.
32 teams, 25 players. How many have more than 2?
Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 05:41:52 PMDon't get me wrong, I'd love to get Ehlers for 8 years, $8mil here. But there are 31 GM's out there trying to upgrade, and he's an upgrade on at least some of the 1RW out there.
Does he fit better at #2RW? It probably lets him play his style a lot more.
Some mention of him wanting to play with Liane... might be a mistake going to Montreal long term for that, who knows how long Liane will be playing.
He's a LW.
Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 05:41:52 PMDon't get me wrong, I'd love to get Ehlers for 8 years, $8mil here. But there are 31 GM's out there trying to upgrade, and he's an upgrade on at least some of the 1RW out there.
If you're allotting that money and term for Ehlers, what happens to Connor at the end of 2026? He'll need a raise. There's also Vilardi to consider this off-season.
Re-signing a player doesn't happen in a vacuum. Or it shouldn't, anyway.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 31, 2025, 05:58:45 PMIf you're allotting that money and term for Ehlers, what happens to Connor at the end of 2026? He'll need a raise. There's also Vilardi to consider this off-season.
Re-signing a player doesn't happen in a vacuum. Or it shouldn't, anyway.
I don't want to see an 8 year deal. Nic will be 29 on Feb. 14th, 6 years at most. To many players drop off after 35. Glad we're finished paying for Wheeler after this season.
Quote from: Pigskin on January 31, 2025, 05:50:27 PMHe's a LW.
Lol... you're right, left.
I don't think Ehlers has a style of play that's going to break down easily. As long as he keeps in shape, I think he will have a long career. If we can get him on a 6 or 7 year deal, great. But if we have to go the max to beat someone by a year of term, I have no issues. Cap will be $200million by then, and we can weather a buyout of his last year or two if need be.
Big game tonight. Boys have to play 60 minutes tonight and stay out of the penalty box.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 01, 2025, 09:12:18 PMBig game tonight. Boys have to play 60 minutes tonight and stay out of the penalty box.
Agreed, but really, it's just another game. Still, I can't wait for this one.
Nice win tonight. JM44 with a beauty to end the game. Let's go home, and he's gone. Back home against a good Carolina team on Tuesday.
Geez that was a great ending with JMo finishing a fine pass from
MS55 in O.T.
The Caps are indeed a strong opponent and I understand more of why they're successful this season
Quote from: Pigskin on February 02, 2025, 03:29:24 AMNice win tonight. JM44 with a beauty to end the game. Let's go home, and he's gone. Back home against a good Carolina team on Tuesday.
The only thing I didn't like was giving up leads of 3-1 and 4-2.
Quote from: J5V on February 02, 2025, 11:46:35 PMThe only thing I didn't like was giving up leads of 3-1 and 4-2.
Gotta give credit to the Caps; they battled hard.
What a wild game. That OT winner was just nasty.
3-0 on the road and winners of six straight. Love it.
Morgan Barron now week to week. Upper body. Apparently happen on the big hit on Dach late in the 3rd. period.
A good Carolina team coming in tonight, this should be a good game.
Hot teams right now.
Jets 6 wins.
Wings 6 wins
Stars 5 wins
Sens 5 wins.
Update per Arniel: Lowry, Barron both listed week-to-week, neither is skating.
Jets shut down a pretty team tonight. Comrie was very good, nice to see him get the shutout. And, that's 7 in a row.
Gotta love another team effort with a positive result
Definitely it was big kudos to Comrie
Comrie was great, team played great (second line was buzzing), powerplay continues to dominate. Seven game heater!
Friday night's gonna be fun. ;D
https://illegalcurve.com/next-day-takeaways-3-thoughts-as-the-winnipeg-jets-winning-streak-reaches-seven-games/
QuoteThere was a major behind-the-scenes element to Tuesday night's game, as the Winnipeg Jets challenged, and won two separate video reviews.
Matt Prefontaine, video and analytics coach with the Winnipeg Jets, got plenty of credit from Comrie in the post-game, as Comrie went as far as to say that he is the "Connor McDavid of video coaches" in what was a hilarious soundbite.
"Matty's the best in the business," Comrie said with a wide grin. "When I was in Buffalo, our video coach there, we're talking about Matty like he's the greatest thing ever. He's the Connor McDavid of video coaches. This is an actual conversation with video coach Justin White. He goes, 'You know Matty Prefontaine? What's he like as a guy, how good is he?' I was like, OK, now I understand how good he is. When they had their analytics meeting, he's the one leading the charge. He's the best in the business. We're lucky to have him."
The biggest challenge was late in the game, as Rasmus Kupari had a goal waived off that would have made it 3-0 at the time. Leading 2-0, with 3:43 remaining in the third period, the Jets would have been on the penalty kill had that challenge been unsuccessful. They decided to challenge, and it paid off, as Kupari got his fifth goal of the season and the Jets held on to a 3-0 win.
Three games in a row that PP2 opens the scoring.
Defence played well, saw one bouncing puck that Stanley gave away, but other than that, he had a great game. Morrisey is going to turn heads in the 4 Nations.
2nd line is playing like a 2nd line, 4th line showed some real gumption.
Comrie finally got run support on a night he didn't need any.
I missed the post game handshakes, does Helly come out with a huge hug for Comrie?
I didn't like the two calls on the disallowed Jet's goals.
The first one they claimed was kicked in by Vladie Namestnikov but I certainly didn't see any kicking motion. A Carolina player kept complaining to the ref and was making a kicking motion and sure enough, that was the ruling. We didn't challenge that one and I accept Arnie's explanation for not challenging it but I thought it was a good goal.
The second disallowed goal, for goaltender interference, was, IMHO, a decent, hard-working, journeyman effort by Kupari who has been working his *** off. I'm glad we challenged that one as the call was reversed.
It's bizarre to hear Carolina fans complaining about the refs in that game. I thought the refs did everything they could to help Carolina get back into the game but the Jets smothered them defensively. Full marks to Comrie and the rest of the team for a stellar defensive effort against a potent Carolina team.
We still win if both goals are tossed.
There was a definite kicking motion, his skate was not just following through on his motion, he was kicking at it.
The reason the Kupari goal was allowed was because it was a goal, and while there was contact that the ref on the ice called, it was not player initiated and did not negate the goal.
There was a pretty distinct kicking motion even though it appears unintentional on Namestnikov's part.
I think the right call was made.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 05, 2025, 05:26:46 PMThere was a pretty distinct kicking motion even though it appears unintentional on Namestnikov's part.
I think the right call was made.
I agree. When i got home and watched the reply, it was a kicking motion.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 05, 2025, 04:11:31 PMThree games in a row that PP2 opens the scoring.
Defence played well, saw one bouncing puck that Stanley gave away, but other than that, he had a great game. Morrisey is going to turn heads in the 4 Nations.
2nd line is playing like a 2nd line, 4th line showed some real gumption.
Comrie finally got run support on a night he didn't need any.
I missed the post game handshakes, does Helly come out with a huge hug for Comrie?
Of course that's there deal.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 05, 2025, 06:21:28 PMI agree. When i got home and watched the reply, it was a kicking motion.
There were two angles during the game that showed definitively it was a kicking motion. The overhead angle was particularly convincing and it was hardly a surprise the officials waved it off immediately after review.
Well, Friday night we need to put away the Islanders before going on a big break. Then back to the NHLs crazy schedule.
FEB.22, @ Blues, Feb.24, @ Home. Feb.26, @ Sens. FEB.27 @ Nashville.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 05, 2025, 04:11:31 PMI missed the post game handshakes, does Helly come out with a huge hug for Comrie?
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As is tradition.
This team is a tightly knit group.
Gotta love it. I remember the Mom's trip where the Mom's mentioned they liked Comrie for his big hugs, and I've watched for them ever since.
This is a very close team, and I bet the boys really hated not giving Comrie the run support he needed during that string of losses. Now that he's back to winning, and a SO to boot, this team is going to be tough to catch up to.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 05, 2025, 05:18:31 PMThere was a definite kicking motion, his skate was not just following through on his motion, he was kicking at it.
The reason the Kupari goal was allowed was because it was a goal, and while there was contact that the ref on the ice called, it was not player initiated and did not negate the goal.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 05, 2025, 05:26:46 PMThere was a pretty distinct kicking motion even though it appears unintentional on Namestnikov's part.
I think the right call was made.
It looked good to me at the time but upon further review I have to agree. We're all in agreement on Kupari's goal. Nice to see him courageously stand in there and capitalise. Those are the kinds of goals we're going to be needing as things tighten up going forward in the regular season and then the playoffs.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/time-for-jets-to-wave-white-flag-on-ville-heinola/
Good read. A bit of a weird situation, to be sure. I wonder what happens with Heinola.
Well, the boys need to go out get this Win before the break. Just hope we don't cool off on this break.
A good chance to rest and heal up for the final stretch of the regular season.
Just gotta get the win tonight first.
Pprojected lines & D pairs vs. NYI:
Connor – Scheifele – Vilardi
Ehlers – Namestnikov – Perfetti
Niederreiter – Kupari – Appleton
Iafallo – Gustafsson – Lambert
Morrissey – DeMelo
Samberg – Pionk
Stanley – Miller
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Hellebuycks starts, Lambert in for Ford.
Am I the only one that would like to see Lambert centering the second line?
If we are leading in the third period, bump him up, give him a shot...
Quote from: theaardvark on February 07, 2025, 07:41:23 PMAm I the only one that would like to see Lambert centering the second line?
If we are leading in the third period, bump him up, give him a shot...
I think the plan is to develop him into the 2C this team needs. But with how well the top 6 has played recently, why mess with that.
I'm just happy to see him get another shot. He's gotta make it count, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 07, 2025, 07:45:04 PMI think the plan is to develop him into the 2C this team needs. But with how well the top 6 has played recently, why mess with that.
I'm just happy to see him get another shot. He's gotta make it count, though.
Yeah I'm hoping Lambert can go on a heater. I wasn't unhappy with the job Adam Lowry did as the 2C and I'm not sure how much longer he's going to be out. Yes that top six is performing beautifully. I'm sure Lambert and when he returns, Lowry, will find roles to fill. I've been pleasantly surprised with how well Namestnikov, Iafalo and Perfetti have performed also. Arneil has this team playing like a well-oiled machine!
Leave the second line the way it is. The return of a healthy VN7 has really helped CP91 get going.
Lambert is hopefully the future, but if we are messing with the top 6, it needs to be for someone proven right now.
Quote from: Jesse on February 08, 2025, 01:05:22 AMLambert is hopefully the future, but if we are messing with the top 6, it needs to be for someone proven right now.
Lambert is playing well tonight but has made a couple of mistakes that he won't get away with in the NHL. All part of the learning curve.
Two many breakdowns in the first period. Excellent second. Jets were flying and the building crazy loud. Third period was all Helle.
Take the win and thank HellB
Too much inconsistency but some beautiful goals
MS55 will be the replacement for Sid, if Sid can't play due to his injury.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 08, 2025, 03:35:11 AMTwo many breakdowns in the first period. Excellent second. Jets were flying and the building crazy loud. Third period was all Helle.
He was on a mission to get that win.
Top line had a great night and made their chances count.
Time to rest up and get ready for that final push.
Yost breaks down Hellebuyck's case for the Hart: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/connor-hellebuyck-has-a-strong-argument-for-the-hart-trophy-1.2249893
Hellebuyck is an amazing player who absolutely deserves to be in the Hart conversation. He has the talent and he comes prepared to play every game.
Lowry skating in regular jersey, Barron remains on IR but is skating: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-practice-report-497/
The Moose are certainly bad this year but I see that D-man Coghlan, has 5 G's and 3 ***'s in the past 4 games
That's very good news about Lowry
Coghlan and Salomonsson are two solid blue line prospects on the Moose right now. That bodes well for the Jets going forward, IMO.
Makes me wonder what happens with Heinola, though.
JM44 with the Flu.
Such a sad occurrence for JMo. Hope he takes Saturday off, along with HellB, and gets better.
Meanwhile our great Sniper, got stuck in the press box and hasn't played for many days, so should be anxious to compete vs the Blues.
Barron skating, non-contact: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-practice-report-499/
Connor expected to play tomorrow in St. Louis, Hellebuyck and Morrissey will not and return to Winnipeg.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2025, 06:27:33 PMBarron skating, non-contact: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-practice-report-499/
Connor expected to play tomorrow in St. Louis, Hellebuyck and Morrissey will not and return to Winnipeg.
Guess Morrisey is still sick with the flu, Helly played alot so he deserves a break.
Jets extend VN7 for two more years at $3M per season. Nice bump of $1M per season.
Nice come back win for the Jets. However some sloppy play, and terrible in the FOC. Comrie was very good again, and excellent in OT and the Shootout.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 22, 2025, 07:14:42 PMJets extend VN7 for two more years at $3M per season. Nice bump of $1M per season.
The guy works his tail off for this team. I've never seen him take a shift off. Good for him. He's earned it.
Team certainly needs to be happy with the win and congrats to a solid performance from Comrie
Extremely glad that Connor, after being blanked on 10 shots, ripped in the SO winner
Indeed, the team was a shambles in the FO dot
Great news re: Namestnikov. That's a good contract all-around.
Can the Jets make it 10 in a row tonight?
Projected lines & D pairs vs. SJ:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Iafallo-Gustafsson-Kupari
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Stanley-Miller
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Getting JMo back will help the PP. Faceoffs have to be better tonight.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 24, 2025, 04:10:30 PMGetting JMo back will help the PP. Faceoffs have to be better tonight.
JMo hit a post there in the second. We are so much better with him out there.
Great to see and hear the interview with Eldon "Pokey" Reddick.
Eldon "Pokey" Reddick (https://x.com/i/status/1894020157820829700)
Nice game by the Jets tonight with a franchise record 10th win in a row. The Jets needed a late JMo goal to force overtime and then Scheiffele ended it when he banged in a rebound. Jets are the top team in the league. #1 baby!
WOW !!!! Another nail biter with an awesome 2 pts collected in the standings
I thought we played a pretty solid game. Lots of scoring chances. A few to many penalties. That's 10 in a row, and MS55 passes Kovalchuk. JMo was outstanding.
Morrissey's so good. Scheifele gets the winner and his franchise leading 329th goal, and the Jets push their franchise win streak to 10 games.
Not a masterpiece but they made it count when it mattered most. This team is so resilient.
Tied for a few minutes to start the game, and 25 seconds to end the game, and had the lead for exactly zero seconds with the OT Winner.
Talk about gutting out a win. Only 5 teams in NHL history have had 3 7+game winning streaks.
This has been a crazy ride this year, deep in the 3rd period I just about turned it off the annoying Amazon coverage to return to binging Lost (never watched it, at Season 4 and its getting a little too weird), but I sure am glad I didn't.
Perfetti and Ehlers seem to be getting better in tune, and Namastikov on a new deal was feeling it.
Vilardi is getting to be a must sign now, I know its easy to get stats when you have MS55 and KFC81 as linemates, but he's holding his own on that line.
Stanley made a few nice plays on the breaks, I think he's going to settle in, maybe not as a Chara, but as a solid Myers type.
Miller has a howitzer, for sure, not sure if he actually dented the crossbar with that shot.
Vilardi's already a must re-sign; been so for a while now, IMO.
So is the Trade Deadline going to find for our Jets active ?
Is Chevy going to surprise the hockey fans or be mute ?
Will he be moving off Heinola, an often injured Chaz Lucius ?
Perhaps Appleton, Barron moved or will Ehlers, who hasn't signed an extension, be a huge trade component, certainly hope not.
Though I truly enjoy our team presently, no doubt I am wanting to see a more quality centerman for Ehlers and Perfetti.
Any thoughts fans
Just saw on tv scroll that the Jets have called up Dolan from the Moose.
Do we have a forward injury
Seeing huge break for our boys as the Sens have ruled out
Tkachuk, Norris and Pinto for tonight's game
Quote from: Jockitch on February 26, 2025, 04:34:33 PMJust saw on tv scroll that the Jets have called up Dolan from the Moose. Does that mean Heinola is on waivers shortly.
Or might it mean there is an injury on the defence
I think he was called up as the extra forward: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-recall-jaret-anderson-dolan-from-the-moose/
Quote from: theaardvark on February 25, 2025, 04:44:30 PMTied for a few minutes to start the game, and 25 seconds to end the game, and had the lead for exactly zero seconds with the OT Winner.
Talk about gutting out a win. Only 5 teams in NHL history have had 3 7+game winning streaks.
This has been a crazy ride this year, deep in the 3rd period I just about turned it off the annoying Amazon coverage to return to binging Lost (never watched it, at Season 4 and its getting a little too weird), but I sure am glad I didn't.
Perfetti and Ehlers seem to be getting better in tune, and Namastikov on a new deal was feeling it.
Vilardi is getting to be a must sign now, I know its easy to get stats when you have MS55 and KFC81 as linemates, but he's holding his own on that line.
Stanley made a few nice plays on the breaks, I think he's going to settle in, maybe not as a Chara, but as a solid Myers type.
Miller has a howitzer, for sure, not sure if he actually dented the crossbar with that shot.
Stanley is still very slow, and gives up the puck in the D zone a lot.
I would like to see Fleury back into the line up soon.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 26, 2025, 06:32:10 PMStanley is still very slow, and gives up the puck in the D zone a lot.
He's been markedly better over this recent winning streak. I don't know if swapping him out for another fringe blue liner (like Fleury) would make any difference.
Quote from: Jockitch on February 26, 2025, 04:28:56 PMSo is the Trade Deadline going to find for our Jets active ?
Is Chevy going to surprise the hockey fans or be mute ?
Will he be moving off Heinola, an often injured Chaz Lucius ?
Perhaps Appleton, Barron moved or will Ehlers, who hasn't signed an extension, be a huge trade component, certainly hope not.
Though I truly enjoy our team presently, no doubt I am wanting to see a more quality centerman for Ehlers and Perfetti.
Any thoughts fans
After extending Namestikov, it seems to me his play has improved dramatically.
The season long lament was that we need a true 2nd line C. Namestikov has stepped up. I don't think he's the best 2C in the league by any stretch, but he's been OK.
If we picked up a rental true top faceoff guy to play 2C and moved Namestikov to the 4th line, I'd be surprised. Unless VN7 was part of the deal. And his new contract makes him a little more attractive in a trade. So, maybe.
I can't see us trading for a top 4 Dman, unless something ridiculous comes on the market, and we don't need a third pairing guy, we have like 8 of those.
Ehlers will not be traded, he will be an "own rental" unless something amazing comes back in return.
Our bottom 6 and bottom pair are all solid, tweaking them might cause more harm than good after the season they have put up so far.
Do you need to improve on the best team in the league? I guess you can always get better, but why mess with it?
I would like to see the PP get going tonight.
The Sens battled but HOORAY the Jets win again
Scoring 2 within the first 4 or 5 shots was huge and of course HellB was almost perfect ...... otherwise our work in the dot was terrible in the first 2 periods and we just never seemed to use the body much.
However, a win is truly great to have
The PP could have put this game away in the second period. The PK on the other hand was very good tonight. I also thought that the 3rd. line had a very strong game tonight.
Now off to Nashville.
Another great win last night. Pulling away from the rest of the west.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 26, 2025, 08:42:43 PMAfter extending Namestikov, it seems to me his play has improved dramatically.
How do you figure?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 27, 2025, 01:20:42 PMAnother great win last night. Pulling away from the rest of the west.
How do you figure?
I don't have stats to quote, it just feels like he's playing with more confidence knowing he has a deal in place. That line seems to be clicking more... just a feeling I get from watching.
Quote from: theaardvark on February 27, 2025, 03:52:49 PMI don't have stats to quote, it just feels like he's playing with more confidence knowing he has a deal in place. That line seems to be clicking more... just a feeling I get from watching.
He's only played three games since re-signing - and has just a single assist.
He looks like the same old reliable Vlad to me, though. He fits in so well on this team.
VN7 has played much better since coming back from his injury. Last 12 games he has put up 11 points. And, he's a big part in getting CP91 jump started. I don't believe it has any thing to do with his new contract.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 27, 2025, 04:49:39 PMVN7 has played much better since coming back from his injury. Last 12 games he has put up 11 points. And, he's a big part in getting CP91 jump started. I don't believe it has any thing to do with his new contract.
Second line as a whole has found new life on this current win streak. Perfetti's been great over his last 10.
Second Line in the last 12 games: VN7 11 points, CP91 12 points, NE27 13 points. VN7 1 goal, CP91 5 goals, and NE27 4 goals.
Need to get the PP going. Back to back nights with a 5 on 3 and nothing.
Well Comrie certainly did his part in the Jet attempt to win
Unfortunately, Saros really brought his A+ game
After a home game this Saturday, the team travels east for
a Tues. game, then Thurs. and Friday (Trade Deadline day).
Wonder if Chevy will try to wrap up business before road trip
Team sucks, time for a wholesale change at the trade deadline...
Well, if you looked at only the Nash game, that might be the sentiment. No idea why the PP has sucked so bad. 5 on 3 you should always score.
0 for 12, but still the best in the league this year, is this a thermostat problem?
I remember a success seminar (You were born rich, Bob Proctor), where he explained many of us have an internal thermostat. As long as we are succeeding in our comfort zone, we hum merrily along. When we start to perform outside that zone, either up or down, our internal "thermostat" causes a correction back into the comfort zone.
Were they doing to well, and the pressure of maintaining that success is too much?
Or, have other teams figured out how to defend our PP, and we need to adapt?
I am still hoping we are looking for a second line C with some term left on his contract. VN7 is just not good enough in the COF, and we need a little size and toughness with CP91 and NE27.
Have to get our PP on track. NN62 not playing well right now. 6 points in his last 15 games. Zero in his last 6 games.
Really a tough, extremely competitive, loss
Chances were there, for both teams, but alas, our boys
lost the extra point
Agree that NN62 has been not as powerful as in the first 1/2 of season. However, our captain, who should be leading his wings,
has definitely struggled in this new year.
Just 2 goals and 5 pts total in 14 games
Actually that line has no points in the last 5 games. I thought Barron had a strong game.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 02, 2025, 04:05:26 PMActually that line has no points in the last 5 games. I thought Barron had a strong game.
Barron had a very good game. Too bad we couldn't have got him a goal late after he drew those PPs. It would have likely won the game for us. If they keep playing like that they'll be just fine.
Quote from: Pigskin on February 28, 2025, 08:03:35 PMI am still hoping we are looking for a second line C with some term left on his contract. VN7 is just not good enough in the COF, and we need a little size and toughness with CP91 and NE27.
Some size/sandpaper to the top 6 couldn't hurt, IMO.
Hopefully an extra day of rest helps the team; they've looked pretty tired the last two games.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 03, 2025, 01:16:52 PMSome size/sandpaper to the top 6 couldn't hurt, IMO.
Hopefully an extra day of rest helps the team; they've looked pretty tired the last two games.
What have they played, five games in ten days? Yeah, that's a grind. Getting Lowry back has helped and Barron is playing well. They just have to bury their chances, especially on the PP, and the secondary scoring needs to pick it up. It's a long season but that's no excuse. Teams are bearing down as they struggle to secure playoff positions. If we can keep playing our game over the next twenty or so the results will come. I'm hoping we can catch a bit of a heater down the stretch and build off that going into the playoffs!
Samberg out tonight vs. Islanders (personal): https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ice-chips-winnipeg-jets-d-dylan-samberg-personal-out-tuesday-against-new-york-islanders-1.2264933
Hustling start, no results , then Iles took over for quite some time
that helped them get something like the next 17 shots, sadly with a couple goals and the rest was competitive but no points in the standings for our boys.
Kupari just might, certainly hope not, have a concussion happening
Hooray, the PP got 2 on 3 chances.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 05, 2025, 04:32:25 AMHustling start, no results , then Iles took over for quite some time
that helped them get something like the next 17 shots, sadly with a couple goals and the rest was competitive but no points in the standings for our boys.
Kupari just might, certainly hope not, have a concussion happening
Hooray, the PP got 2 on 3 chances.
I, too, was happy to see the PP produce tonight but, my goodness, the Isles were taking Jets down all night with a lot of trips that weren't called. I get that the game was in NY but a penalty is a penalty. The Jets earned the right to be on the PP half the night! Call the game, ref.
Powerplay finally clicks, but that's about it. Unimpressive showing last night.
Yes, the PP was back to normal last night. Now just need to find some 5 on 5 scoring. CP91, NE27, KC81, and JM44 all had excellent looks and couldn't find the back of the net.
Our offense has really dried up as of late. Not gonna win many games when you score 1 or 2. Silver lining is that we haven't fallen off and looked bad in any of these games, just not our dominant selves.
We were inevitably going to go through some low point because an 11 game streak doesn't last forever, and I can live with some adversity here and there. Really want to get back in the win column again tomorrow night, though.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 05, 2025, 06:34:52 PMOur offense has really dried up as of late. Not gonna win many games when you score 1 or 2. Silver lining is that we haven't fallen off and looked bad in any of these games, just not our dominant selves.
We were inevitably going to go through some low point because an 11 game streak doesn't last forever, and I can live with some adversity here and there. Really want to get back in the win column again tomorrow night, though.
Agree. You never want losing to become a habit (so ditch this losing streak ASAP). You want winning to become a habit. :)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 03, 2025, 01:16:52 PMSome size/sandpaper to the top 6 couldn't hurt, IMO.
Hopefully an extra day of rest helps the team; they've looked pretty tired the last two games.
The Jets have done really good this season, far exceeding what I thought they'd do. But size and sandpaper is going to be needed when the dirt starts flying in the playoffs. The Jets aren't a heavy team and when the games turn physical in the playoffs, look out. Although we're in first place overall, that will mean as much as it did for the Bruins when they finished first, one and done.
Kupari out approx. a week (concussion protocol): https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-indicates-rasmus-kupari-in-concussion-protocol-re-evaluated-in-a-week/
62 games in: 81/55/13 (91G) 27/7/91 (41G), 62/17/22 (33G), 19/9/36/15 (19G), 4/44 (18G), The rest of the D 10 goals.
Jets, Panthers swapping goalies: https://illegalcurve.com/seravalli-report-winnipeg-jets-and-florida-panthers-make-a-goalie-swap-dealing-kaapo-kahkonen-for-chris-driedger/
QuoteAs per Frank Seravalli of Daily Faceoff the Jets and Panthers made a goalie swap today with Winnipeg sending minor league goalie Kaapo Kahkonen to the defending champs for Winnipegger Chris Driedger.
Kahkonen was signed as a free agent with the potential to be the backup to Connor Hellebuyck but he was beat out by Eric Comrie. He's been with the Moose for the majority of the season. He is 6-14-0 with a 2.57 GAA and a .855 save%.
Chris Driedger has spent the entirety of this season in the AHL with the Charlotte Checkers. He is 10-6-4 with a 2.97 GAA and a .878 save%. Last season he was in the Seattle organization which went all the way to the AHL Final. In total he's played 67 NHL games for Ottawa (who drafted him in the 3rd round of the 2012 Draft), Florida and Seattle.
Update: Jets have now confirmed the deal.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 06, 2025, 07:59:40 PMJets, Panthers swapping goalies: https://illegalcurve.com/seravalli-report-winnipeg-jets-and-florida-panthers-make-a-goalie-swap-dealing-kaapo-kahkonen-for-chris-driedger/
Okay, so Chevy just stuck his toe in the water. lol.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 06, 2025, 08:52:06 PMOkay, so Chevy just stuck his toe in the water. lol.
Lol...
That's not a trade...
Impressive first couple periods and then mostly protecting lead in the 3rd. Another steady performance from Comrie
Two more PP goals. Nice to get a couple of 5 on 5 goals. CP91 having trouble scoring again. Hope he can turn this around soon.
Geez —- the strong Avs just got stronger by getting
Brock Nelson
Meanwhile as I caught some chatter past 12:30 a.m., that
Dallas is huddled up with the Hurricane organization and now likely will be getting Rantanen
Chevy has to strike big or we won't be competitive
A minor league trade is still a trade. LOL
Good win last night in Philly. Top line played great and Comrie was a stud between the pipes.
First team to 90 points! Now to see what Cheveldayoff has planned for today.
Jets acquire D Schenn from Penguins, F Tanev from Kraken: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-acquire-d-luke-schenn-from-pittsburgh-penguins-1.2266763
Tanev is energy - great
D-man Schenn for me is just meh, unless it means there's a
great chance that bros. Brayden is heading our way to bolster our
2nd line center need.
Glad Chevy has only used draft capital so far
Tanev is a great addition. He's tenacious, he's versatile, and he's played nearly 200 games as a Jet.
Lowry must be stoked.
Schenn/Stanley 3rd pairing?
Tanev/Lowry/Appleton?
Still need that face off / 2nd line C... but we don't have any picks left to give...
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 07, 2025, 04:42:49 PMJets acquire D Schenn from Penguins, F Tanev from Kraken: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-acquire-d-luke-schenn-from-pittsburgh-penguins-1.2266763
Oooooh ... I like this. A heavy, experienced, veteran D-man that has won a cup, to bolster our D for the playoffs. Very nice! Connor Hellebuyck and Eric Comrie must be feeling good about this also. Good job, Chevy!
If you can't get Schenn for center get Geekie from Bruins
He has size, reasonable at faceoffs, only 26. However is Fa next year
I'm pretty pleased with the acquisitions! Nothing earth-shattering, but bolster both O and D and not at the cost of team chemistry (we do have the best record in the league, as a reminder..).
Great to get back in the win column last night. Would be awesome to start a new streak tonight in New Jersey, and that would be a little bit of a statement being a b2b.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 07, 2025, 06:04:12 PMIf you can't get Schenn for center get Geekie from Bruins
He has size, reasonable at faceoffs, only 26. However is Fa next year
2nd. line still needs an upgrade. Geekie would be an outstanding pickup. Tuch is another player I would be interested in. Both big player that shoot right that can score.
If that's it, I am disappointed
Tanev can zip around but who does he replace, as he certainly doesn't take faceoffs.
Guess Schenn is responsible but will he really be better than Miller.
Good luck Jets and hope we don't get any center hurt
Also, our light 2nd line has to elevate their offence
Well, no one can debate they added more grit. Stopping teams from running them over was a concern. These moves will help, and just 2nd and 4th round picks.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 07, 2025, 08:13:02 PMIf that's it, I am disappointed
Tanev can zip around but who does he replace, as he certainly doesn't take faceoffs.
Guess Schenn is responsible but will he really be better than Miller.
Good luck Jets and hope we don't get any center hurt
Also, our light 2nd line has to elevate their offence
Yes, Dallas and Colorado, have added some big talent.
Jets at +1300 to +1500 to win the cup, 7 teams ahead of them in the odds, same odds as Toronto... quite the insult for the team leading the league right now.
Florida +500, Dallas +600, Edm +750... what the literal F.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 07, 2025, 08:49:20 PMYes, Dallas and Colorado, have added some big talent.
They sure did. It's an easy sell convincing a player to go to Dallas and/or Colorado. Winnipeg not so much.
I would have thought having the league's best team and goaltender might have attracted some high-end talent looking to win a cup but that didn't manifest. Still, I think we did okay with Schenn and Tanev. Might be enough. Sometimes the best trade is the one you don't make.
I don't think we've seen the best out of this Jets team yet this season. I believe we have that to look forward to.
Terrific team victory. Really overwhelmed the Devils
Tanev was flying and Barron did well at center
Nice to see AL17 score in back to back games. 4th. line was outstanding tonight. Tenev's energy really added a spark. Excellent win.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 08, 2025, 03:38:01 AMNice to see AL17 score in back to back games. 4th. line was outstanding tonight. Tenev's energy really added a spark. Excellent win.
Agree 100% What a great captain he is. Sets the example, defends the boys, and as you say, chips in with some timely offense. What a beauty!
Love the addition of Tanev; he was noticeable on the ice last night. Such a buzzsaw. Jets sure took it to the Devils last night, too. Great back-to-back victories.
Schenn in a nice depth add on the blue line.
The Jets were apparently in on Nelson but couldn't work out a deal. Makes me wonder if a NTC factored into things. The salt in the wound is that now he's with the Avs.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed with how yesterday went. I was hoping for a big splash.
There is no doubt the NTC factored into the try for Nelson. Still can't figure out why a player wouldn't come to the best team in the league, with the best goalie, with the best fans.
Guess the general consensus is that since Winnipeg doesn't have a KMart... well...
Maybe if we win a cup this year, that all changes.
We will need CH37 to have a great playoffs, and for our best players to play their best, but it could change the future of the club.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 09, 2025, 06:19:53 PMThere is no doubt the NTC factored into the try for Nelson. Still can't figure out why a player wouldn't come to the best team in the league, with the best goalie, with the best fans.
Guess the general consensus is that since Winnipeg doesn't have a KMart... well...
Maybe if we win a cup this year, that all changes.
We will need CH37 to have a great playoffs, and for our best players to play their best, but it could change the future of the club.
Yes, the Jets currently lead the league in points, but strong teams are loading up for the playoff run, we haven't followed suit with the big splash announcement. Tanev and Schen are decent, but they're middle of the road talents. We need someone who can give us some dominant play and take the play to the other team like Connor-Schieffle do.
There are a good 5-6 teams that could go all the way this year, but I don't think the Jets play a heavy enough game to withstand the long grind the playoffs bring. Florida, Tampa Bay, Toronto , Washington, Colorado all beefed up their lineups, its going to be intense.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 09, 2025, 06:19:53 PMThere is no doubt the NTC factored into the try for Nelson. Still can't figure out why a player wouldn't come to the best team in the league, with the best goalie, with the best fans.
Guess the general consensus is that since Winnipeg doesn't have a KMart... well...
Maybe if we win a cup this year, that all changes.
We will need CH37 to have a great playoffs, and for our best players to play their best, but it could change the future of the club.
We may be in first, but we are not seen as legitimate Cup contenders. We can't just make a regular season run every few years and be bounced immediately out of the play offs if we want outside FAs to overlook their aversions for coming north.
If we consistently win multiple rounds, like the Avs and Stars, then we will see these deals go through at the deadline.
Big boys never got on the scoreboard and that's tough to
try and win without that happening —- gee what a surprise
DeMelo, Pionk and Stanley not at their best
To many penalties. To many giveaways. Someone should have responded to the hit on VN7 by Stall. Anderson robbed us a number of times. Lowry 3 goals in 3 game.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 10, 2025, 02:13:43 AMBig boys never got on the scoreboard and that's tough to
try and win without that happening —- gee what a surprise
DeMelo, Pionk and Stanley not at their best
Carolina made it look easy tonight. Stanley is not an NHL defenseman and is a liability out there. Hopefully with Schenn coming in, that solves that issue, but we sure didn't look like the 'best team in the league' as others like to throw out, not even close.
Count me in amongst those who wants to see Schenn (or anyone else) in for Stanley. When the latter makes mistakes, they really stick out.
He's a fringe player at best.
Quote from: Jesse on March 09, 2025, 11:24:32 PMIf we consistently win multiple rounds, like the Avs and Stars, then we will see these deals go through at the deadline.
Not sure I agree entirely. The Jets had no problem getting two top rentals a year ago in Monahan and Toffoli.
I don't know how hard Cheveldayoff pushed to target anyone outside of Nelson; he didn't really mention anyone else they were targeting this year.
A 2C upgrade seemed like a no-brainer and I'm quite surprised nothing materialized in that regard.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2025, 12:25:42 PMCount me in amongst those who wants to see Schenn (or anyone else) in for Stanley. When the latter makes mistakes, they really stick out.
He's a fringe player at best.
Not sure I agree entirely. The Jets had no problem getting two top rentals a year ago in Monahan and Toffoli.
I don't know how hard Cheveldayoff pushed to target anyone outside of Nelson; he didn't really mention anyone else they were targeting this year.
A 2C upgrade seemed like a no-brainer and I'm quite surprised nothing materialized in that regard.
Was there a 2C available other than Nelson who is better than Namestikov?
Quote from: theaardvark on March 10, 2025, 02:14:22 PMWas there a 2C available other than Nelson who is better than Namestikov?
There were more than a few (https://www.nhl.com/news/top-candidates-to-be-moved-before-2025-nhl-trade-deadline).
Laughton (acquired by the Leafs), O'Reilly, or Schenn would've all been immediate upgrades on the 2nd line. I'm sure NTC variables factored in, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 10, 2025, 02:35:55 PMThere were more than a few (https://www.nhl.com/news/top-candidates-to-be-moved-before-2025-nhl-trade-deadline).
Laughton (acquired by the Leafs), O'Reilly, or Schenn would've all been immediate upgrades on the 2nd line. I'm sure NTC variables factored in, though.
Laughton,I'm not sure would have been an uprade, Schenn wasn't available with ST Louis still in the hunt, and it sounds like O'Reilly wasn't interested in moving (Preds were giving him the ability to choose a potential destination, and he turned down Toronto), and his $4.5mil until 2027 pricetag might not have fit here.
It would have been nice to find a rental like Monanhan or Stasny were.
Stan has played some good hockey for us and can be a physical presence which is valuable during the playoffs. I'm not going to dump on him because he had a rough game or two. He has been slowly but steadily improving, IMO. If it was easy the league would be full of quality 6'7" Makars. It isn't.
Schenn is a great depth pickup. https://x.com/i/status/1899191413428154847
https://x.com/i/status/1899177762927292612
Sounding like Schenn will slide in tonight vs. the Rangers.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 11, 2025, 02:15:39 PMSounding like Schenn will slide in tonight vs. the Rangers.
Is he taking Stanley's spot??
Quote from: Pigskin on March 11, 2025, 02:58:23 PMIs he taking Stanley's spot??
Looks like Fleury and Schenn on the bottom pairing: https://illegalcurve.com/game-66-winnipeg-jets-vs-new-york-rangers-pre-game-report/
Projected lines & D pairings vs. NYR:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Sambergy-Pionk
Fleury – SchennHellebuyck
Comrie
Am a Fleury fan so happy to see he's paired with
the Schenn debut
Quote from: Jockitch on March 11, 2025, 03:49:54 PMAm a Fleury fan so happy to see he's paired with
the Schenn debut
I like this also.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 11, 2025, 07:16:16 PMI like this also.
Ditto. Makes the most sense, IMO. Schenn can probably help Fleury with his game.
I like the pickup of Schenn and dropping Stanley off the roster. Mistakes in the playoffs will kill us. In Schenn we get a good defenseman with a well known mean streak and respected fighter
Excellent team win tonight. Felt like a playoff game at the arena tonight.
Solid win last night. Hellebuyck continues to dazzle; no wonder he's the front runner for the Hart. Perfetti had a great game, too.
Schenn stuck out for all the right reasons and that bodes well going forward. He and Fleury looked good together.
In other developments, it sounds like Iafallo wants to stay in Winnipeg. I'd love to see him re-sign here.
Well done Jets and indeed HellB had a real nice game
Do hope we see the Fleury and Schenn pairing next game
Great to see Names and Gabby end small scoring droughts
Perfetti looked great, and watching him and Ehlers click with the drop passes and cross ice backhanders its just magical. Hopefully they have years together to build what MS55 and KC81 have. Jumping up on teh #1PP when Ehlers was in the box was special too. Fans seem to be quick to criticize 91, but I think he's going to be a gooder.
Schenn leading the teams in blocks and hits is why he's here, great addition. If he doesn't have to clear waivers, I hope they send Stanley down to the Moose to keep him playing. Not sure he'd clear if they have to. Someone will grab him.
And to the surprise of nobody, Hellebuyck set to win his third and second consecutive Vezina trophy: https://www.nhl.com/news/trophy-tracker-jets-connor-hellebuyck-vezina-favorite-nhl-season-three-quarter-mark
QuoteConnor Hellebuyck is well on his way toward becoming the first goalie since 2008 to win the Vezina Trophy in consecutive seasons.
Hellebuyck is a major reason the Jets have been at or near the top of the NHL standings for much of the season. He leads the NHL with 38 wins and six shutouts and has the best goals-against average (1.99) and save percentage (.927) among goalies to play at least 20 games. Those numbers make him the unanimous favorite to win the Vezina Trophy for the third time (2020, 2023), receiving all 16 first-place votes (80 points) from a 16-person NHL.com voting panel. He also was the unanimous pick for the first quarter and halfway point of the season.
Hellebuyck would be the fourth goalie to win the Vezina in consecutive seasons, joining Patrick Roy (1989-90), Dominik Hasek (1994-95, 1997-99) and Martin Brodeur (2003-04, 2007-08) since NHL general managers began voting on the award in 1982.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 13, 2025, 11:30:03 AMAnd to the surprise of nobody, Hellebuyck set to win his third and second consecutive Vezina trophy: https://www.nhl.com/news/trophy-tracker-jets-connor-hellebuyck-vezina-favorite-nhl-season-three-quarter-mark
QuoteHellebuyck would be the fourth goalie to win the Vezina in consecutive seasons, joining Patrick Roy (1989-90), Dominik Hasek (1994-95, 1997-99) and Martin Brodeur (2003-04, 2007-08) since NHL general managers began voting on the award in 1982.
Pretty impressive company to be in.
Massive game tonight!
Jets win ahead by 10 points.
Lets do this!
Heard on OB that if the Jets win in regulation tonite, they are a 90% chance to win the division. That drops to 70% if Dallas wins in reg.
Not a "must win", but that's a big swing. Want to avoid the 2 vs. 3 matchup...
Pionk on IR, listed week-to-week (LBI): https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-coach-scott-arniel-says-neal-pionk-out-week-to-week/
Tough news. Looks like Schenn gets moved up to play with Samberg, and Miller slides back in with Fleury on the bottom pairing.
Projected lines & D pairs vs. DAL
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Schenn
Fleury – Miller
Hellebuyck
Comrie
The pathetic HFBoards site continues to be plagued with issues. Really disappointing there.
Any other Jets Forums one could recommend? Unfortunately it is a little slow on here for me on the Jets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 14, 2025, 05:22:51 PMTough news. Looks like Schenn gets moved up to play with Samberg, and Miller slides back in with Fleury on the bottom pairing.
Samberg, for me, has been the most pleasant surprise this season. His play has been rock solid. I just love his game, size, physicality, and smarts.
Wow! It's 4-0 Jets with 11:40 left in the game and the Jets are coming after the Stars in waves! So far this has been one of their best performances this season. Very impressive.
Game over now. 4-1, against a very good Dallas Stars team. The Jets are the best team in the league, no doubt.
What a dominate win. All 4 lines were good, but the 1st. line was outstanding. Love Schenn's physical game. Helle made it look easy again tonight. Fans amazing. The area was very loud tonight.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 14, 2025, 08:43:12 PMThe pathetic HFBoards site continues to be plagued with issues. Really disappointing there.
Any other Jets Forums one could recommend? Unfortunately it is a little slow on here for me on the Jets.
Do you have Reddit?
Quote from: Jesse on March 15, 2025, 01:23:48 PMDo you have Reddit?
HFB is up and running well now. I heard Reddit is the alternative. Thanks.
Not much seemed to break down last night
Minimal great opportunities for the Stars with HellB rising
to fend off most
D pairings, shuffled at times, really were terrific
Quote from: Jockitch on March 15, 2025, 04:50:11 PMNot much seemed to break down last night
Minimal great opportunities for the Stars with HellB rising
to fend off most
D pairings, shuffled at times, really were terrific
Really like the way our 4th. line is playing right now. Tanev has taken that line to a different level.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on March 15, 2025, 04:12:29 PMHFB is up and running well now. I heard Reddit is the alternative. Thanks.
I didn't know about HFB. Thanks for the heads up. They're still having some issues. Couldn't register. But still a good looking site. I hope they can get sorted out.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 15, 2025, 04:50:11 PMNot much seemed to break down last night
Minimal great opportunities for the Stars with HellB rising
to fend off most
D pairings, shuffled at times, really were terrific
What I liked best was the teamwork and how they picked each other up time after time. They are playing their structure very well with minimal breakdowns. 1st line was terrific! Helle rock solid. Demelo could have done a better job on Marchment but it was a good bang-bang play by Dallas. Tough to take everything away from a team as good as the Stars.
Did Rantennen play last game?
Very nice game by Cole Perfetti.
Not our best game. Slow start, some sloppy D. Comrie was very solid again. Take the 2 points and head to Vancouver.
A pretty bad start last night, but the finish is all that matters. Gotta give credit to the Kraken; they're tenacious. The better team won in the end, though.
Perfetti has been marvelous lately and that second line finds a way to pick up the slack when needed.
And this coming off the heels of an absolutely dominant win on Friday over the Stars, who looked markedly pedestrian for the bulk of that game.
This team continues to impress.
Kinda boring, methodical game early but our boys picked
it up and thankfully didn't end being goalied
Real fine play by Fetts, who was a star, and good finish
by Samberg for a deserved 2 points
Disappointed in low minutes for Fleury, Miller and Barron
Our 2nd. line has become more consistent lately. CP91 is playing more physical, and is going to front of the net more often. If they can stay consistent, this will really help in the playoffs. Now if we can get NN62 going.
So, Fetts has arrived as a winger, and is meshing great with Ehlers. VM7 is a serviceable C for them, but Fetts was supposed to be 2C, right?
*IF* we moved CP91 to C, who would you put in at RW, either on the roster of pending FA?
Quote from: theaardvark on March 17, 2025, 05:38:36 PMSo, Fetts has arrived as a winger, and is meshing great with Ehlers. VM7 is a serviceable C for them, but Fetts was supposed to be 2C, right?
*IF* we moved CP91 to C, who would you put in at RW, either on the roster of pending FA?
I think we need to sign NE27 first.
The beauty of the second line at present is its versatility, IMO. Perfetti and Namestnikov can both play C or W, Ehlers is a bonafide winger, and the three function well as a unit. They're generating consistent offense while also defending well without the puck.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this line going into the final stretch and playoffs. I think its success (or failure) will determine its collective future beyond this season and post-season.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 17, 2025, 06:11:05 PMI think we need to sign NE27 first.
Not saying it's an either or but I hope the top priority is locking up Samberg long-term. He's been unreal this season and only seems to get better with each game he plays.
I genuinely wonder what happens with Ehlers.
Vilardi is a RFA this summer, I would like to lock him up long term. Samberg is also an RFA, and I agree we need to get him signed long term. NE27 might be pricing himself out of Winnipeg.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 17, 2025, 07:25:17 PMVilardi is a RFA this summer, I would like to lock him up long term. Samberg is also an RFA, and I agree we need to get him signed long term. NE27 might be pricing himself out of Winnipeg.
With no one on the team being paid close to $10 mil, and getting back almost $4 mil in buyouts, I don't know how we cannot afford Ehlers, and giving Vilardi and Samberg good RFA offers...
Quote from: theaardvark on March 17, 2025, 10:34:17 PMWith no one on the team being paid close to $10 mil, and getting back almost $4 mil in buyouts, I don't know how we cannot afford Ehlers, and giving Vilardi and Samberg good RFA offers...
.
You will see your $10M Jet in 2026 when KC81 signs his new contract. Jets will not fool around with Vilardi and Samberg because they only have one year left in RFA. NE27 will be here if he signs in the 7 to 7.5 range. If not he's gone.
We have $8 mil space now, cap goes up $7 mil, We get back $4mil from buyouts, $4mil from Iafallo (love to see him back, but with all the young guys, I can't see him back, and if he is, not at $4mil. Pionk is a decison at close to $6mil.
That's a lot of clear space to get Ehlers in at $7-8, Samberg in at $5-6, Vilardi at $6.5-7, and still have $10 for Conner next year (getting back 1.65 from Schmidt buyout as well, and more cap hikes too).
The Caps beat Detroit tonight to pull even with the Jets for 1st overall. It would be nice if the Jets could open up some space on Washington and win the President's Cup. I believe it's harder for a Western team to win the President's Trophy because they play tougher opponents than the Eastern teams and have a tougher travel schedule than the Eastern teams. It would be a remarkable accomplishment for the Jets if they could do it.
Another slow start, add in some terrible D zone play. Helle 5 goals in 14 shots. PP sucked.
What an embarrassing performance last night.
(https://media.tenor.com/kr2X02MchIwAAAAM/what-the-hell-was-that-smoking.gif)
Flushing that one quickly, especially HellB.
There's nothing that upsets me more than staying up late to watch trash like that.
I'm going to the game in a couple weeks against Van, so the cope I am using is that we needed to have that stinker so they win one bigly with me in attendance.
Tomorrow is the hated oilers. Hoping for a repeat of Game 1 in Edmonton.
My hope is that last night's game was just one of those where everything went wrong and things will return to normal next game.
https://illegalcurve.com/the-winnipeg-jets-have-found-their-next-elite-defenceman-in-dylan-samberg/
Give this man a contract!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 20, 2025, 12:16:43 PMhttps://illegalcurve.com/the-winnipeg-jets-have-found-their-next-elite-defenceman-in-dylan-samberg/
Give this man a contract!
I was actually coming here to talk about Samberg.
We have the next Morrissey in the making. Excellent example of proper development through the ranks to get to the big club, find a way to stick, and eventually become elite.
Need a big bounce back game tonight. Need to be much better in the D-zone tonight.
Nice road win for the Jets tonight. PP really sucks. Helle with a couple of weak goals. But, a lot better defensively tonight.
This team hasn't really looked the same since their massive statement win over the Stars last Friday.
Nice enough win last night but the Jets have been giving up a lot of ice and high danger chances against over the last three games. Their transition game hasn't been sound, IMO. Hellebuyck has given up his share of softies over this stretch, and I'd imagine there's a correlation there. The powerplay has really struggled as well (last night was brutal), but I'm hoping this is just a blip. It seems like minor issues they gotta clean up.
100 points on the season through 70 games is an impressive feat. They gotta keep the pedal to the floor over the next dozen games, though.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 21, 2025, 12:33:31 PM100 points on the season through 70 games is an impressive feat. They gotta keep the pedal to the floor over the next dozen games, though.
Agree 100%. My biggest concern is injuries. I was quite concerned for Vladdy Namestnikov last night. That was a cheap shot at a vulnerable player by Skinner IMO.
Quote from: J5V on March 21, 2025, 03:37:19 PMAgree 100%. My biggest concern is injuries. I was quite concerned for Vladdy Namestnikov last night. That was a cheap shot at a vulnerable player by Skinner IMO.
I didn't think Skinner was the type to take cheap shots but here we are. Fortunately, it sounds like Namestnikov is no worse for wear.
Eff the Coilers.
My biggest concern is the PP.
Quote from: Pigskin on March 21, 2025, 03:51:10 PMMy biggest concern is the PP.
Which it shouldn't be given how top notch it's been all year. Last night was a cluster eff though. They spent most of the time in the neutral zone with an extra man, INCLUDING that horrific 2 man adv where we could have put our foot to their throat but just couldn't muster it.
For a portion of time, no Drai, McD or Stu-Skin (he sucks but he's still their starter) and yet we were forced into OT. Shouldn't have happened when we are this good.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 21, 2025, 05:48:40 PMWhich it shouldn't be given how top notch it's been all year. Last night was a cluster eff though. They spent most of the time in the neutral zone with an extra man, INCLUDING that horrific 2 man adv where we could have put our foot to their throat but just couldn't muster it.
For a portion of time, no Drai, McD or Stu-Skin (he sucks but he's still their starter) and yet we were forced into OT. Shouldn't have happened when we are this good.
The PP just hasn't been that good the last 15 games. 6/39, had a nice little three game run from earlier this month going 5/7. Last 6 games 1/16.
Jets send Schenn home to see his wife and kids. Classy move by the Jets.
2 pm game start tomorrow against the Sabers. Looking for the PP to get back on track.
Well, that sucked. Jets got Reimered.
How do you lose to the Sabres, who just played the night previous, on home ice with a few days off?
Ugh. This team has not looked the same since beating the Stars on the 14th.
Not any real good finish happening yesterday and that was a very poor goal, short handed, to give up.
Depth scoring is certainly front and center. It was an issue never addressed at the deadline.
Arniel has a chance to dabble, and not just for a period, during this home stand.
Would Pionk have made a difference of late ??
I don't think Pionk would've changed much.
The team seems to have shied away from its strong two-way game recently.
NP4 is 7th in scoring on this team with 35 point. So, we probably missing his offence.
MS55 took a couple of lazy penalties yesterday.
Reimer was outstanding.
But I have to agree, the shorthanded goal was the back breaker. Sloppy.
Bad news —- Vilardi is now on the week to week IL.
Actually surprised that Niño returned to the game, cuz he
certainly looked wobbly
Dabbling time for our coaches
Does Ehlers move up or does Apple move up or how bout Kupari
getting back in. He's a powerful built player that I think can handle the speed and skill of Connor and Scheif
Ugh. Really lousy news re: Vilardi.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 24, 2025, 05:30:33 PMBad news —- Vilardi is now on the week to week IL.
Actually surprised that Niño returned to the game, cuz he
certainly looked wobbly
Dabbling time for our coaches
Does Ehlers move up or does Apple move up or how bout Kupari
getting back in. He's a powerful built player that I think can handle the speed and skill of Connor and Scheif
Is this is from the puck in the ear?
Quote from: Pigskin on March 24, 2025, 07:09:09 PMIf this is from the puck in the ear?
Nope (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-coach-scott-arniel-indicates-gabriel-vilardi-out-week-to-week-with-ubi/).
Probably something worse.
Quote from: Jockitch on March 24, 2025, 05:30:33 PMBad news —- Vilardi is now on the week to week IL.
Actually surprised that Niño returned to the game, cuz he
certainly looked wobbly
Dabbling time for our coaches
Does Ehlers move up or does Apple move up or how bout Kupari
getting back in. He's a powerful built player that I think can handle the speed and skill of Connor and Scheif
I would hate to breakup the 2nd line right. I think it will be Iafallo, at least to start the game. I would like to the Jets bring up Ben King from the Moose. Ben is 6'3" 205, plays a physical game, and can score.
Looks like a slew foot right at the end of the game in front of the Buffalo net.. GV13 lands on his left shoulder.
Looks like Iafallo moves up to the top line in Vilardi's absence, other lines shuffled.
Projected lines/D pairings vs. WAS:
Connor-Scheifele-Iafallo
Ehlers-Lowry-Appleton
Niederreiter-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Tanev-Barron-Kupari
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Schenn
Stanley-Miller
Hellebuyck
Hate the Vilardi situation so much, but now is as good a time as ever to fire up the line blender and try stuff out in this final 3 week stretch. Hopefully we learn some things and are better for it come mid April. And no better first test than the Caps.
Sure would be nice to fight through adversity and rise to the occasion like we did against Dallas a few weeks ago and part from how we've been the last week or so.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on March 25, 2025, 03:14:45 PMLooks like Iafallo moves up to the top line in Vilardi's absence, other lines shuffled.
Projected lines/D pairings vs. WAS:
Connor-Scheifele-Iafallo
Ehlers-Lowry-Appleton
Niederreiter-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Tanev-Barron-Kupari
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Schenn
Stanley-Miller
Hellebuyck
I figured Iaffalo would get the start with our top line. Don't like breaking up the 2nd unit.
Outstanding team win for the Jets.
Playoff vibes last night. Ehlers' GWG was ridiculous. What a way to clinch!
(https://i.imgur.com/fag1J3k.jpeg)
The boys get a nice break after a very physical game.
That was a very intense, playoff style game. Nice win by Jets
Now we get to play for the first round bye...
Oh wait...
Hitting the playoffs in first with home rink throughout the playoffs is huge. And avoiding the 2 vs. 3 first round too...
My only concern was the wins over Dal and Was vs. the losses to Van and Buf. Weaker teams seem to get the better of us. Hopefully that just in one off games, and not in a series.
Quote from: theaardvark on March 26, 2025, 05:28:06 PMNow we get to play for the first round bye...
Oh wait...
Hitting the playoffs in first with home rink throughout the playoffs is huge. And avoiding the 2 vs. 3 first round too...
My only concern was the wins over Dal and Was vs. the losses to Van and Buf. Weaker teams seem to get the better of us. Hopefully that just in one off games, and not in a series.
I totally get where you're coming from, but my response would be: that's why we play a series. We can have a bad game against a bad team, but I have a hard time imagining losing a 7 game series to e.g. Vancouver. And if we do, we have serious problems after a regular season like this one. Last year was inexcusable, but playing MacKinnon-lead Colorado is different than a WC2 opponent.
All that said, I'm irritated that St. Louis is hitting quite the stride right now and we might very well play them now at their best vs e.g. a floundering Vancouver. That's 2019 all over again, when they were in last place in the league at Christmas and then went on to win the cup - through us.
Quote from: blue_or_die on March 26, 2025, 06:26:53 PM...I'm irritated that St. Louis is hitting quite the stride right now and we might very well play them now at their best vs e.g. a floundering Vancouver. That's 2019 all over again, when they were in last place in the league at Christmas and then went on to win the cup - through us.
Eh. The Blues have been middling for the bulk of the season, and while they are on a nice little heater at present, let's take a look at their opponents during that streak (bold denotes team currently in playoff position):
MTL, NSH X2, CHI, VAN, ANA,
MIN.
Don't get me wrong: winning seven games is no small feat but context matters here.
I don't think there's much of a parallel with this current Blues team and the eventual championship team from six years ago.
Kupari out (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-indicated-rasmus-kupari-had-a-minor-setback-listed-as-day-to-day/), Gustaffson in
Projected lines/D pairings vs. NJD:
Connor-Scheifele-Iafallo
Ehlers-Lowry-Appleton
Niederreiter-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Gustafsson-Barron-Tanev
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Schenn
Stanley-Miller
Hellebuyck
Huge win last night. Iafallo doing a great job on the top line, Hellebuyck gets another shutout, and Gustafsson has an immediate impact in his return.
Nice little compilation vid by the NHL:
Very good start for the Jets last night. Really good team effort in shutting down the Devils. Both the PP and PK were good. Really like the toughness and solid play Schenn has brought to the team.
Great, quick start certainly amped up the building and
the night ended with a feeling of high expectations for the balance of the season
Schenn, solid and smart, has really been a fantastic addition. Some of his body blows sure can put a smile on my face
Does anyone agree that Dallas has a ridiculously easy schedule remaining? That truly alarms me. I can honestly see them running the table.
Sat, Mar 29 @ Seattle
Mon, Mar 31 @ Seattle
Thu, Apr 3 vs Nashville
Sat, Apr 5 vs Pittsburgh
Sun, Apr 6 @ Minnesota
Tue, Apr 8 vs Vancouver
Thu, Apr 10 vs Winnipeg
Sat, Apr 12 vs Utah
Mon, Apr 14 @ Detroit
Wed, Apr 16 @ Nashville
Our schedule looks much tougher
Sun, Mar 30 vs Vancouver
Tue, Apr 1 @ Los Angeles
Thu, Apr 3 @ Vegas
Sat, Apr 5 @ Utah
Mon, Apr 7 vs St. Louis
Thu, Apr 10 @ Dallas
Sat, Apr 12 @ Chicago
Sun, Apr 13 vs Edmonton
Wed, Apr 16 vs Anaheim
Quote from: J5V on March 30, 2025, 03:43:18 AMDoes anyone agree that Dallas has a ridiculously easy schedule remaining? That truly alarms me. I can honestly see them running the table.
Sat, Mar 29 @ Seattle
Mon, Mar 31 @ Seattle
Thu, Apr 3 vs Nashville
Sat, Apr 5 vs Pittsburgh
Sun, Apr 6 @ Minnesota
Tue, Apr 8 vs Vancouver
Thu, Apr 10 vs Winnipeg
Sat, Apr 12 vs Utah
Mon, Apr 14 @ Detroit
Wed, Apr 16 @ Nashville
Our schedule looks much tougher
Sun, Mar 30 vs Vancouver
Tue, Apr 1 @ Los Angeles
Thu, Apr 3 @ Vegas
Sat, Apr 5 @ Utah
Mon, Apr 7 vs St. Louis
Thu, Apr 10 @ Dallas
Sat, Apr 12 @ Chicago
Sun, Apr 13 vs Edmonton
Wed, Apr 16 vs Anaheim
According to a buddy of mine, the Stars have the easiest strength of schedule among top 10 teams, whereas we have the 2nd hardest.
With us losing to bad teams, and beating good teams, and needing to ramp up into the playoffs... is this a bad thing?
Really smart effort after some sloppy play early
Fetts had a beauty and HellB was on top of his game
PP certainly didn't work well
Nice to get the win. But, another 2 man advantage, and another terrible result. PK very good again tonight.
I'm sorry, but if the Perfetti goal isn't the winner in every "One on One" highlight competition for the next month, I don't know what they are thinking.
That goal was unbelieveable, he undressed the defender, danced around and a Perfet shot. Just a treat to watch over and over again. Keeps popping up in my FB reels, and I have to let it repeat 3 or 4 times every time I see it.
There is no doubt that he has learned from Ehlers, and has grown three sizes as a player. He was easily toppled before, and now seems stronger on his skates, and willing to mix it up when needed. Again, this could be an effect of playing with Ehlers, who too often is the first guy in when a team mate gets hit.
Not sure why they split up Ehlers/Perfecti, they work so well together, unless this is a trial balloon in case of a playoff injury or if Ehlers disappears again in a 7 game series...
The first period was a dicey one, but they seemed to get it together midway through the second and then owned the bulk of the third. Perfetti's goal was incredible in both the goal itself but also how he made it happen. Such an impressive individual effort!
The last stretch is gonna be tough, but hopefully it battle hardens this team for their post-season. That game on April 10th looms large.
Some NHL trivia: with his 43rd win on Friday over the Devils, Hellebuyck joins only two other netminders to record multiple 43+ win seasons in the expansion era: Martin Brodeur (4) and Evgeni Nabokov (2). That's pretty elite company.
Projected lines/D pairings vs. LAK:
Connor-Scheifele-Iafallo
Ehlers-Lowry-Appleton
Niederreiter-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Gustafsson-Barron-Tanev
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Schenn
Stanley-Miller
Hellebuyck
Driedger
Comrie out as he and his wife are expecting their first child.
I guess I'll stay up late tonight and Thursday. They owe me wins, though *shakes fist*
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 01, 2025, 06:25:26 PMI guess I'll stay up late tonight and Thursday. They owe me wins, though *shakes fist*
Condolences if you stayed up for that one. Blegh.
Tight checking by both teams and opportunities were at a minimal
PP was certainly not and seemingly isn't clicking
Jets played a very sloppy first 15 minutes of the game. Looked good and had most of the play in the 2nd. until Stanley decided to channel his inner Bobby Orr and gave up the 2 on 1 which ended up the TSN turning point. LA with a lead are very hard to score on.
Jets with only 3 goals in three games against the Kings this season. Agree, on the PP.
Turnovers prove costly.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 02, 2025, 01:13:47 PMCondolences if you stayed up for that one. Blegh.
Thank you. I woke up tired and angry.
LA really feels to have our number. They give new meaning to "neutral zone", they way they use the middle of the ice to neutralize and shut down our zone entry and create turnovers, mistakes, etc. Kudos to them on mastering that type of game and makes us look boring.
If we only get to win one of these two late games though, I'll take an L last night if it means we whip the hated Knights
The Jets should take a page out the Kings' playbook, IMO. They're crazy good in the neutral zone.
The Kings are not > than the Jets and I'd take the Jets in a seven game series. The Jets are deeper, more dynamic, faster, and have the better goaltender.
The Kings style of play is difficult to play against if you're only going to play them once in a blue moon. A seven game series is much different. It would give the Jets the opportunity to make the necessary adjustments that could be applied over a series. It's part of the reason that the playoffs are a different animal.
Big game tonight. Need the W. Dallas has been outstanding since the trade deadline. Like to see the PP get going tonight.
Looks like Comrie in net and Schenn is a gametime decision.
Excellent bounce back road victory. EC1 was outstanding.
Great performance by the Jets in a 4-0 win over Vegas. Good for Comrie, he was outstanding. Fly got beat up by the puck tonight. I hope he's okay.
Awesome road win! Comrie was a brick wall and the boys played a complete game.
Always a good night when Vegas loses.
Was grinning a lot after such an outstanding team win
Quick to cover his angles, finding the puck and fierce in regaining position, Comrie was what our boys needed
For just under 8 minutes of playing time Dolan certainly competed and led the team with 6 hits
The Fly got beat up from the puck numerous times and truly hope the ice tub can get the swellings down
No news is good news re: Ehlers, IMO. Probably just a bit tenderized from those pucks.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 02, 2025, 07:12:01 PMIf we only get to win one of these two late games though, I'll take an L last night if it means we whip the hated Knights
Huzzah!
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 04, 2025, 05:57:16 PMNo news is good news re: Ehlers, IMO. Probably just a bit tenderized from those pucks.
Cap friendly reporting NE27 is day to day. For what it's worth.
EC1, $825K. and signed for next season. Love to extend him.
Miller, $1.5M , also sign for next season. Has been pretty solid.
With NP4 close to returning. 44/2, 54/4, 5/6 ??
Quote from: Pigskin on April 04, 2025, 08:28:30 PMCap friendly reporting NE27 is day to day. For what it's worth.
EC1, $825K. and signed for next season. Love to extend him.
Miller, $1.5M , also sign for next season. Has been pretty solid.
With NP4 close to returning. 44/2, 54/4, 5/6 ??
Arniel said the same thing about Ehlers. Might miss a game but probably fine.
Is Comrie signed for next season? That's already awesome. I love Miller too. Would love to see him and Fleury in the mix instead of Stanley once everyone is healthy.
Sid scores a hat trick in a 5-3 victory over the Stars.
No Ehlers and Utah all over us like a fat kid on a smartie. 2-0 Utah and would be 4 or 5-0 if not for Hellebuyck.
I don't know where the Jets game is but they didn't bring it to Utah so far tonight.
Jets didn't show up for the first 30 minutes. Helle made some great saves, and he let in a couple he normally stops. This team seems to take a game off after a big win. Really blew a big chance to go 6 points up on Dallas.
Blues coming in on a 12 winning streak. Jets will need to be running on all cylinders.
See that Lethbridge beat Brandon in 5 games in Rd1
Brayden Yager got 4 goals and 8 points
Does anyone have an update on Gabriel Vilardi other than week-to-week and he is not skating?
I heard a rumour that he has a broken collarbone and if true, that's a devastating season ending injury. The jets haven't been flying as high as usual lately and I wonder if this is why. If he is lost to us for the season that's going to be depressing. His hands, especially on the PP, have sure been missed. :-(
Wild beat the Stars in OT.
Can't stand when this team fails to show up, especially after the Penguins did them a pretty huge favour earlier on Saturday.
Tonight's going to be a very tough test.
Injury Update (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-with-health-updates-on-ehlers-pionk-kupari-miller-vilardi/)
QuoteOn Ehlers: "Game-time. Game-time. Got out there and got to skate which was great. We'll just see how he is this afternoon and take it from there."
On Pionk: "He's real close. It's all about conditioning for him."
On Miller: "He's sick. We'll see. We'll go game-time."
On Kupari: "He skated today. He was full condition skate before we went out on the ice. First one."
On Vilardi: "Gabe's around. We're getting close to see about him going out on the ice. He's up and running here a little but more. We'll just follow along with him, kinda see where he's at."
Seems like mostly good news.
Incredible how both teams have not gotten called for so much
Quote from: Jockitch on April 08, 2025, 01:44:26 AMIncredible how both teams have not gotten called for so much
Yes but some of the calls they have made have been weak.
Excellent win for the Jets. All four lines played well, with a few D zone breakdowns. The build was very loud again tonight. We are ready for the playoffs.
Really a nice, at times smothering, effort and terrific win
Great win* last night. Dominant and stifling throughout. I thought the officiating was suspect; seemed like the Blues got away with a lot of greasy stuff.
Now to rest up for a huge game in Dallas on Thursday.
*franchise record (53)
Yes, the Dallas game will be a big game. Hope, Miller, Ehlers, and Pionk are back. Little concerned about NV7. Only 3 points in his last 10 games.
Chaz Lucius retires from hockey for medical reasons.
How in the world did Dallas lose to Vancouver with leads of 3-0 and then 5-2 with 1:06 left? I don't recall such a collapse in recent history. This by a team that many pundits claim are the Stanley Cup favourites. Just wow! They are going to be a surly bunch on Thursday night.
Vancouver scores 5 goals in the third period to take Dallas to OT and then scores in OT for the win. Jets now 4 points up on Dallas.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 09, 2025, 03:33:30 AMVancouver scores 5 goals in the third period to take Dallas to OT and then scores in OT for the win. Jets now 4 points up on Dallas.
Brilliant. I was obviously counting the Canucks out of that one. To find out they stole a point from Dallas makes it so sweet.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 08, 2025, 10:47:54 PMChaz Lucius retires from hockey for medical reasons.
Quite a sad story.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-2021-first-round-pick-chaz-lucius-retires-from-hockey-for-medical-reasons/
All the best, Chaz.
I don't watch a lot of Jets games so grain of salt here, but
Against the Blues.....The Jets were playing high level defence.
No giveaways in their own end, mostly pretty smooth getting the puck out of their own end, not leaving the goalie to fend for himself....forwards that previous seasons seemed uninterested in backchecking now seen in their own end fighting for the puck.
That is a welcome change.
That was an exciting game. Barron's goal was outstanding.
Edit... I should be a hockey analyst... the athletic " Hellebuyck is facing fewer shots (41 unblocked per 60 minutes of play, the lowest since his rookie season) and scoring chances (2.77 expected goals against, the lowest rate since 2017-18) thanks to improved team defense. They are super stingy in shots and chances against and do a great job breaking out of their own zone."
Need a Pat self on back emoji
Pionk voted as Jets' nominee for Masterton Trophy: https://illegalcurve.com/neal-pionk-voted-as-winnipeg-jets-bill-masterton-memorial-trophy-nominee/
Sounds like NP4 and NE27 could be back tonight. Big game for both teams.
Dominating, impressive performance by the Jets tonight for the 4-0 win. Wow!
The Jets need just 1 more point to clinch the division and that could come as early as Saturday night against Chicago.
There are three games left -- Chicago, Edmonton, and Anaheim.
Wonderful to see Pionk and Ehlers back.
I can't wait for game 83.
Go Jets Go!
Impressive win. Jets had the Stars off balance all night. Happy to see 3rd. and 4th. line chipping in. Love the why 6'4" 220, MB36 is playing.
A basically perfect road game and a dominating statement win. Everyone was dialed in from the opening face-off.
Hellebuyck* with another shutout (and sets a franchise record in wins at 45), Connor cracks 40 goals, Barron scores another beauty. Niederreiter's tip-in was a thing of beauty, too.
Iafallo on the top line has been impressive to say the least. Makes me wonder what happens when Vilardi's ready to return. What a nice problem to have.
Time to lock up the division and the conference.
* just give him the Vezina and Hart now
Such a satisfying victory with really a consisten, defensive effort from all.
Young Dolan is a hitting machine and a nice compliment to play with Barron and Tanev
With their production last night, Connor and Scheifele are the first duo in Jets 2.0 history to crack 85 points each in a season.
Oh, and more one thing: major kudos to Ehlers for not taking any guff from Steel last night.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 11, 2025, 08:25:45 PMWith their production last night, Connor and Scheifele are the first duo in Jets 2.0 history to crack 85 points each in a season.
Oh, and more one thing: major kudos to Ehlers for not taking any guff from Steel last night.
I thought the ref missed the tackle by Steel, and then the sucker punch. As much as I don't like NE27 fighting, I agree he had to defend himself.
The game against the Hawks on Saturday is one of those trap games that we can't fall into. We just played three very good games, got to jump on them early and put the away.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 11, 2025, 09:31:00 PMThe game against the Hawks on Saturday is one of those trap games that we can't fall into. We just played three very good games, got to jump on them early and put the away.
I can't see them laying an egg in this one, they know what's at stake. I expect they'll bring their A-game.
Some very sloppy play early. Also, some D-zone breakdowns late. However, the SO win gets us the point we needed. NE27 injury didn't look good. I hope we rest all our big guns for the next two games. At the end of the day Dallas lost to Utah.
Well, Perfetti does that dirty goal the other night, and then the SO winner tonite, I am very, very happy that they showed patience with him and he's going to be around a while.
Leave it to Ehlers to get injured by a lineman.. hopefully its not bad
Magic number of 2 for the President's trophy...
First 3 shots had things going the Hawks way but fortunately
the gang started getting big saves and drove the play
Hoping that the Fly recovers.
Next couple games may see some "key" boys in the presser to avoid injuries prior to playoffs.
Well, Washington lost so give us the Presidents Trophy. Tough to see DS54 get injured.
There was no penalty there. Why did the ref call hooking on Scheiffele when there was no hooking? I don't understand and now one of our best defensemen is hurt. That's a lot to swallow. Isn't the home team supposed to get the benefit of the doubt from the refs? Why are the Oilers being given free power plays? What is going on out there?
Congrats Jets!
Central Division
Western Conference
Presidents Trophy.
My goal for this season was to just enjoy the ride and not worry about play-offs until they got here. That went as well as it possibly could have.
Now the nail-biting begins.
Pretty crazy weekend! Lock up the division and conference in pretty wild fashion in Chi Town, and then win The President's Trophy by default yesterday.
Sounds like Samberg is okay (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-post-game-said-i-think-hell-be-ok-regarding-dylan-samberg/), which is a relief.
On to the playoffs!
Hate winning the President's trophy because another team lost. Kinda lame, much better to do it with a win. But hey, its a first. Playnow still has them 11-1 with 6 teams (DAL, FLA, CAR, COL, LV EDM) favoured higher and Tampa the same. Bulletin board material.
One game left, how many do we rest? Are we going to call the entire Moose lineup up for the game? Kinda makes sense, nothing to play for and everything to lose. I know, every hockey player wants to play every game, and injuries are part of the game, but really? And the other idea that you need to keep playing and not let rust come up, one game off?
You know anyone that is nicked, or even was nicked should sit. Ehlers, Samberg, Pionk for sure, give Helly another night off, I'd sit the top line (55 and 81), 44, 17... but you know some of those guys will not let themselves be taken out of the lineup.
Round one, here's hoping 91 helps 27 get going early. The second line is going to be key...
I really like the play of NN62 and MB36 the last couple of weeks. Both have turned it up another gear.
To be successful in the playoffs, believe we have to get the 2nd line going. A total of 3 points from NE27, CP91, VN7, in there last 5 games. PP also has to be better.
D is also going to be a key. 2/44, 4/54, 5/6. Now of course this is if 54 is healthy. Stanley is the 7th D-man. Just to slow, and gives away the puck to often.
Getting GV13 back sooner then later. The PP hasn't been good since GV13 went down.
Hellebuyck the favourite to win the Hart: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/jets-connor-hellebuyck-favoured-for-hart-as-season-winds-down-habs-lane-hutson-a-lock-for-calder-1.2288641
QuoteIf Hellebuyck were to win both the Vezina and the Hart this season, he would join an elite group comprised of Jacques Plante, Dominik Hasek, Jose Theordore, and Carey Price as the only players to do so in NHL history, while also becoming the first Jet to be named as the league's most valuable player.
Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin ahead of Hellebuyck as best goalie in NHLPA poll (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/andrei-vasilevskiy-igor-shesterkin-ahead-of-connor-hellebuyck-as-best-goalie-in-nhlpa-poll-1.2289167)
This is comical.
Looks like GV13 and NE27 are both listed as day to day.
Jets head coach Arniel making most of second chance in NHL spotlight (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-making-most-of-second-chance-in-nhl-spotlight-1.2289202)
A really great read. Arniel's an excellent coach.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 15, 2025, 04:42:40 PMLooks like GV13 and NE27 are both listed as day to day.
Now hearing after practice NE27 week to week.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 15, 2025, 09:48:49 PMNow hearing after practice NE27 week to week.
Yeah, that sucks.
Jets sign Alex Iafallo to a three year, $11M extension.
Are people in a bit of a state of disbelief?
Maybe fans are concerned about a playoff disappointment.
Reactions seem pretty low key for such a significant, unexpected accomplishment
Quote from: markf on April 16, 2025, 03:52:18 PMAre people in a bit of a state of disbelief?
Maybe fans are concerned about a playoff disappointment.
Reactions seem pretty low key for such a significant, unexpected accomplishment
I think that's probably it. Fans are jazzed about the President's Trophy win (although other teams fans have put out so much cope that it feels like it's supposed to be a bad thing to finish first in the regular season) and are for sure excited about playoffs, but there's an element of "show me". It's not enough to make the playoffs anymore, now it's about getting past that first round. If we handle St. Louis like we should and know we can, everyone will be completely lit for round 2.
Everyone is also waiting for the end of the long, arduous NHL regular season tomorrow so the discourse can officially shift over to playoff mode. I think you'll notice a big transformation in attitude by then.
Quote from: markf on April 16, 2025, 03:52:18 PMAre people in a bit of a state of disbelief?
Maybe fans are concerned about a playoff disappointment.
Reactions seem pretty low key for such a significant, unexpected accomplishment
Like I said earlier, my goal was to enjoy the regular season while it lasted.
Now that we're entering play-offs, I'm in a "believe it when I see it" frame of mind. This team has always been a "bubble" team in the sense that they are always in contention to make the play-offs, but also occasionally miss. Once they're in, they have the potential to win a round, but that has been the absolute ceiling outside of one year.
Hopefully, this year is different, but we have not seen it yet.
It was a weird season in that we had 110 points last year and this year we had 114, 4 points more, and that was enough to win the Presidents Trophy?? That's a big 4 points. It's a great accomplishment, one I never thought we'd do, but I'll take it, but don't get too heady about it. There are at least 5 teams that on any given night, can win the Stanley Cup.
My concern going into the playoffs, is we rely heavily on Kyle Connor and Mark Sheifelle to do the bulk of our goal scoring. Teams are really going to clamp down on those 2 and force others to step up and score in the playoffs. We have 4 - 20+ goal scorers on the team. Others have 6 and 7. . Teams with depth will win
Well that was certainly quite the regular season with an unbelievable start and some really decent winning streaks
Our boys now need to become playoff warriors.
Ehlers out week to week sucks... this was was going to be his year to shine in the playoffs...
Lots of good things to look back upon this season, lets hope that the boys can bring it home.
This team appears to be different than previous iterations in that it is much more connected and doesn't appear to have the holes in it's game that other teams can exploit. The emergence of players like Dylan Samburg and Al Iafalo and the maturing of players like Cole Perfetti have me hopeful.
Neal Pionk signed to a 6 year, $42M extension.
Quote from: J5V on April 17, 2025, 11:09:59 AMThis team appears to be different than previous iterations in that it is much more connected and doesn't appear to have the holes in it's game that other teams can exploit. The emergence of players like Dylan Samburg and Al Iafalo and the maturing of players like Cole Perfetti have me hopeful.
They have a well organized defence. They are Much less prone to own end giveaways. They seem to be able to get the puck and quickly move it out. They seem to have a system, where the puck carrier can count on someone being in a certain spot, ready for a quick pass.
The forwards are backchecking. I wonder if some of the players are in better condition, sometimes last season Connor seemed gassed. They are first on the puck more often.
Also I checked..last season they did not have a good second half. This season they did.
Looking good to me.
Ready for game one on Saturday. Picked up some new whites, and even scored an extra two tickets for game one and two.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 17, 2025, 05:38:08 PMNeal Pionk signed to a 6 year, $42M extension.
Holy Eff, Chevy doing some work.
Planning to play a lot of golf in the off season?
Quote from: dd on April 16, 2025, 10:46:33 PMIt was a weird season in that we had 110 points last year and this year we had 114, 4 points more, and that was enough to win the Presidents Trophy?? That's a big 4 points.
With last night's win to close off the regular season, we actually finish with 116 points. Last year the Rangers won the President's Trophy with 114 points. We were right there then, and so yes, it makes sense that the extra few wins over last year (and an extra one over our previous record set in 2017-18) got us over the hump to get that banner.
Now that the playoffs are finally here, I'm super jacked and having a hard time concentrating on anything else.
$7 mil for Pionk? Might be a value deal at year 6... if he's still playing as well.
55 and 37 are looking like value deals today.
$3.75mil for 9 is not a huge price, and he is a valuable "swiss army knife"
What will 27 want now? I was thinking that he wanted to prove he could perform in the playoffs to increase his value, reverse his disappearing act of the previous years. Now, this injury might put the kibosh on that idea. He's still going to get paid, bit with these other deals, what's his ask going to be? $10 mil?
And then there is Connors, he's going to be $11mil+ now, I guess.
Valardi, 1 year RFA left... does he get term? At what cost?
And Pionk making more than Morrisey is a travesty, but what is Samberg's ask going to be? 1 yr RFA, does he get term adn a slight discount for the RFA year? Does he get 6yrs at $7 like his D partner? Can you pay your second pairing $3 mil more a year than your top?
And Tanev. After what he's done since coming back, and depending on how he does in the playoffs, how can you not bring him back?
Is there space for Appleton?
Every deal is supposed to be made in a vacuum, other deals shouldn't really influence them, but they do.
Chevy is going to pay a premium for some players in the next few years, but by the time the clock runs out on 55 and 37, they will be in full rebuild...
With our current line-up and, I would say 6 games. If we get a healthy GV13 back, he will help our PP and our 5 on 5 scoring 5 games.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 17, 2025, 05:38:08 PMNeal Pionk signed to a 6 year, $42M extension.
Yikes!!! If that's the going rate, what the heck is it going to take to re-sign Morrissey??
Crazy GREAT !!!
So impressive how our lads took over the 3rd
The hitting was extreme and the ice bags will be popular
Great Win by the Winnipeg Jets tonight and the white-out from the fans was tremendous!
1 down, 15 to go.
Go Jets Go!
Jets started off nervous and for the first 2 periods the blues were taking it to us-3 goals on 10 shots yikes!!
Completely dominated the 3rd period and pulled away, need to pick up where we left off for next game
Well, Winnipeg fans love there Jets and a good white out. The Arena was very loud tonight.
The Jets came out a little slow and took to many penalties. PK had a rough night. FO circle we got dominated. 2nd. line forgot to show up tonight.
On the bright side, we only played 30 minutes of good hockey and still won. 81/55/9, had a very good game.
Need a better start in game #2.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 20, 2025, 07:51:23 AMWell, Winnipeg fans love there Jets and a good white out. The Arena was very loud tonight.
The Jets came out a little slow and took to many penalties. PK had a rough night. FO circle we got dominated. 2nd. line forgot to show up tonight.
On the bright side, we only played 30 minutes of good hockey and still won. 81/55/9, had a very good game.
Need a better start in game #2.
Ya, the line of 81-55-9 was dominating every time they were on the ice, the game goes into another gear when they're on the ice.
Lots of concerning issues, but they managed the win. Must be deflating for the Blues to start that good and then have the Jets just take over.
We are definitely missing 13 and 27, but the next men up did well. 28 and 19 stepped into the lineup and 62 and 9 move up without issue.
Hope they come out and dominate from the get go on Monday, we will need a dominating win going to St. Louis...
St. Louis did a good job of screening 37, and we did a very poor job of clearing in front of the net, the guy can't stop what he can't see. That said he's got to get out to cut the angle down sitting back in the net makes it easier for them to score. .824 ain't exactly mvp stats !!
No doubt that aggressive play, forechecking crucial, has to be uppermost when Jets compete tonight.
With 2 important skilled finishers in Vilardi and Ehlers still sidelined, lucky bounces would be most helpful
Have to be better in the FO circle tonight. 2nd. has to get some offence going. PK also has to be better.
I think you can attribute the lacklustre start to nerves. STL scored all their goals in the first 21 minutes and we completely took over after that.
Another start like that would have me a tad nervous, but if we pick up where we left off, look out man.
Jets game is speed, they can't be drawn into a bar room brawl/slugfest, that just takes us off our game. Look at Stuzzle from Ottawa the other night, he was more pre-occupied with hitting the Leafs that he forgot his game was finesse and offense. Dance with the one that got you there!!
That was such a physical game and the Blues threw everything they had at us. We weathered the storm and gutted out a couple goals and that proved to be enough. I don't know if the Blues can play any better than that. They're going to be in a very foul mood on Thursday night. Jets can really put a stranglehold on this series with a win. Jets are playing real playoff style hockey and I give the whole team credit for that.
2 down, 14 to go.
Absolutely a great battle for the complete game
Our usual stars had just enough at the right moments while
our other terrific hustlers were such battlers.
The Blues are indeed, real decent opponents
The Blues were one of the hottest teams down the stretch.
We are missing 2 top 6 forwards.
We still took all they could dish, and gave it back as well.
I would have liked easier wins art home, but they are wins. As long as we win every home game, we never need to win a road game.
One road win on this trip would be nice, though.
We were much better in the FO circle. The PK was much better. Stanley and Schenn are slow but they dished out a lot of punishment. Helle very solid. But, man I hate him playing the puck. MS55/KC81 with 9 points and a plus 8.
St Louis played well, they are going to be very tough to beat at home
Awesome news re: Iafallo and Pionk. Two really good contracts, IMO.
As for the playoffs, great start to the series. Game 1 looked like nerves early on but they dominated the latter half the game and never looked back.
Yesterday's win looked more structured (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-check-every-box-in-game-2-masterclass-against-blues/) from the start and what will help this team go on a run. They really defended well, transitioned well through the neutral zone, and generated consistent chances. Can't say enough about Scheifele and Connor; they've been lethal. Blue line's been solid across the board (Samberg needs a long-term deal), even Stanley (what a hit on Kyrou last night). Hellebuyck was phenomenal last night, too.
My only concern thus far: special teams. The PK needs to be better but I think the PP will improve once Vilardi's back in the line-up. I trust adjustments will be made in the meantime, especially on the PK.
Can't wait for game 3!
Just a friendly reminder that in the history of the Stanley Cup no team has ever gone 16-0 -- not even the great Oiler teams of the eighties.
Mark Scheifele played like a man possessed in game 2. He literally willed-in the first goal with brazen, fearless determination and was in beast-mode all night.
Helle's playing with a swagger I haven't seen since Patrick Roy and I like it.
Stanley was doing his impression of Zedano Chara and his hit on Kyrou was the kind of stuff that will make the Blue's players take the long-way-around.
I have minor concerns. These games have been so close and St. Louis is not the Avs or Knights. I was hoping for some more clear cut wins.
Our PP needs to get back to where it was earlier in the year. If we complete this series against St. Louis, we need to PP to get us through the following round(s).
Quote from: Jesse on April 22, 2025, 11:01:45 PMI have minor concerns. These games have been so close and St. Louis is not the Avs or Knights. I was hoping for some more clear cut wins.
Our PP needs to get back to where it was earlier in the year. If we complete this series against St. Louis, we need to PP to get us through the following round(s).
This part I kinda disagree with. In our other group chat you put STL in the same group as MIN and CGY but I always thought that of those three we could have played, Blues were on the next level. It was hard to sus out if the Blues were a legit team or just riding a streak so we were all just guessing, but I think we are finding out that St Louis is pretty dam legit.
If we make it past this round, I expect Colorado and Dallas to be only marginally better.
I do agree/hope though we can have 1 or more dominant games against this lowest seed, though. Not sure if it will happen based on the tightness of the first two + now having to play games in their barn. We shall see...
Quote from: Pigskin on April 22, 2025, 06:00:25 PMWe were much better in the FO circle. The PK was much better. Stanley and Schenn are slow but they dished out a lot of punishment. Helle very solid. But, man I hate him playing the puck. MS55/KC81 with 9 points and a plus 8.
I cringe every time. He looks like he used to when he had the bad habit of passing the puck to an opponent with an open net. He's gotta be careful and trust in our guys to race back for it rather than try to make a cute play that partially clears the zone.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 22, 2025, 11:13:12 PMThis part I kinda disagree with. In our other group chat you put STL in the same group as MIN and CGY but I always thought that of those three we could have played, Blues were on the next level. It was hard to sus out if the Blues were a legit team or just riding a streak so we were all just guessing, but I think we are finding out that St Louis is pretty dam legit.
If we make it past this round, I expect Colorado and Dallas to be only marginally better.
I do agree/hope though we can have 1 or more dominant games against this lowest seed, though. Not sure if it will happen based on the tightness of the first two + now having to play games in their barn. We shall see...
I am treating each round like I did the regular season. Just enjoying the good times. This has been exciting hockey to watch and am loving it.
Looking forward, I still have to operate under the simply truth that the Jets need to prove themselves in the playoffs and I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe the Blues are legit, but maybe we're just at our ceiling like we've hit every other year.
Quote from: blue_or_die on April 22, 2025, 11:14:35 PMI cringe every time. He looks like he used to when he had the bad habit of passing the puck to an opponent with an open net. He's gotta be careful and trust in our guys to race back for it rather than try to make a cute play that partially clears the zone.
I too cringe, and it's not only for Helle, but every goalie out there turns the puck over 50% of the time they play it, I just don't know why they don't leave it for the D man to clear it using the systems they use. When the goalie plays it, its like its a wild card, nobody, including the goalie, knows where he's going to play the puck to. I can see when your D man is beat to the puck, come out and rim it around the boards and clear the zone. These up the middle heart attack passes have got to stop. Know your role. Stop the puck, let the D clear the puck
Quote from: Jesse on April 22, 2025, 11:01:45 PMI have minor concerns. These games have been so close and St. Louis is not the Avs or Knights. I was hoping for some more clear cut wins.
Our PP needs to get back to where it was earlier in the year. If we complete this series against St. Louis, we need to PP to get us through the following round(s).
The Blues were the best team in the league since the 4 Nations Cup:
(https://i.imgur.com/BosRE6d.jpeg)
This first round was never going to be easy irrespective of their opponent; the Blues are a strong team.
The Jets have so far shown they're the better team, even if only by a small margin through two games. Taking a 2-0 series lead without two of their top forwards is noteworthy, IMO.
I agree on the PP needing to be better, but that unit is also missing its top PP scorer in Vilardi.
Quote from: Jesse on April 22, 2025, 11:01:45 PMI have minor concerns. These games have been so close and St. Louis is not the Avs or Knights. I was hoping for some more clear cut wins.
Our PP needs to get back to where it was earlier in the year. If we complete this series against St. Louis, we need to PP to get us through the following round(s).
St. Louis was one of the hotter teams down the stretch and is built for playoffs.
We are the only western team off to a 2-0 start. Edm/LA is 1-0.
If we get some bodies back and don't have any more injuries, our PP will improve dramatically Valardi and Ehlers are a huge part of that.
I can see this being a shorter series, and against COL or DAL, I think we can match up well, having home ice throughout the playoffs.
Round 3, if EDM or LAK make it through, would be the toughest division series.
Last 10 games of the season:
WPG - 7-3
STL - 7-2-1
COL - 5-4-1
DAL - 3-5-2
LVK - 6-2-2
MIN - 5-3-2
EDM - 7-3
LA - 8-2
Playoff Practice Report Apr. 23 (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-playoff-practice-report-50/)
Vilardi in non-contact jersey, Ehlers absent (won't travel with team), DeMelo absent (maintenance).
Team is off to St. Louis this afternoon.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2025, 06:19:17 PMPlayoff Practice Report Apr. 23 (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-playoff-practice-report-50/)
Vilardi in non-contact jersey, Ehlers absent (won't travel with team), DeMelo absent (maintenance).
Team is off to St. Louis this afternoon.
No DeMelo, I hear he's sick. That's more bad luck. Blues are flying tonight up 3-0 in the first and Binnington looks sharp! As you say, this was never going to be easy. Blues are a very good team and for these next 2 games they'll get last change. Hellebuyck needs to slam the door but I'm not sure he has it tonight. This game looking like us against the Avs in last year's playoffs.
Hellebuyck has looked ho hum, we need better goaltending than that, especially missing Vilardi, eihlers, and DeMello. We're in trouble. The series is going back to Winnipeg Tied and I'm hoping we can get the momentum back but that isn't a given
Quote from: dd on April 25, 2025, 02:52:07 AMHellebuyck has looked ho hum, we need better goaltending than that, especially missing Vilardi, eihlers, and DeMello. We're in trouble. The series is going back to Winnipeg Tied and I'm hoping we can get the momentum back but that isn't a given
In all 3 games of this series we haven't been able to match the Blue's intensity in the first period. Arneil needs to come up with something to reverse that trend.
I thought Perfetti had clearly scored and so did many of the talking heads. I haven't been pleased with the officiating in this series. Blues have been getting away with a lot of cross checks, hooks, and trips but we sure haven't, especially in this game. Horrible phantom trip penalty called against us after letting the Blues away with several questionable non-calls. I fear that if that trend doesn't even out it's going to be too much to overcome.
Wow! I've never seen Scott Arneil that mad. He was absolutely livid! As soon as we closed the gap to 3-1 (which would have been 3-2 if Perfetti's goal had counted) with lots of time left in the 3rd we got absolutely screwed to go down 4-1 and then the refs put us down 3-5 to go down 5-1! Then still on the PP the Blues got another one to go up 6-1. That was the end of Hellebuyck and Eric Comrie came in.
Do we have an answer for that sasquatch, Buchnevich? He is destroying us out there and we suddenly look small.
Well, it's big boy hockey now. The Blues ran us all over the ice with relative impunity tonight while we got flagged for a mountain of tacky penalties. Game 4 is going to be something.
This was one of the worst officiated playoff games I have ever seen. After a brawl and a bunch of misconducts they finally gave the Jets a PP and we scored. Scott Arneil is just standing there tight-lipped staring at the Blues bench (I assume staring at Montgomery but it seems he won't make eye contact). He is PISSED! Like they did every time we scored the officials put the Blues back on a PP for the final 4 minutes of the game after Stanley sent a message by roughing up one of the Blues. That's when Lowry retrieved the puck at the Jets blue line and got a shorthanded breakaway and a Blues player latched on to him and Lowry basically carried the Blues player in tow all the way down the ice while the player tugged, hooked, and held. I fully expected a holding or hooking call on the Blues octopus but ... nope, no call. Had that been reversed I know a Jet would be in the box. Just a terribly biased game by the officials tonight. Officiating is never kind to us in the playoffs for some reason. It's difficult to beat your opponent and the officials.
This one has a distinctive odour to it, guys. I assume it's going to be even worse for game 4. Queue the nastiness, she's getting real ugly.
Playoff hellebuck is the worst
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2025, 04:10:47 AMPlayoff hellebuck is the worst
Do you know the last time the Jets lost two in a row? March 4th.
Do you know the last time they lost two in a row in regulation? January 20
I'm not worried
Yeah, that was a pathetic showing last night by the road team. I was expecting a pushback from the Blues but the Jets had no answer for the bulk of that game. They were handily beaten and that should serve as a wake-up call. This team has shown it can respond to ugly losses; now is the most crucial time to show that resolve.
It's an interesting coincidence that in round 1 of the 2018 playoffs, the Jets took a 2-0 series lead into Minnesota, and the Wild hammered them 6-2.
Just gotta flush game 3, regroup (coaches and players alike), and get ready for what should be a raucous game 4 on Sunday.
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2025, 04:10:47 AMPlayoff hellebuck is the worst
Two things become clear when you chime in here: you're ignorant to the complex nature of the game of hockey and you obviously didn't watch the game last night.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 25, 2025, 01:18:43 PMYeah, that was a pathetic showing last night by the road team. I was expecting a pushback from the Blues but the Jets had no answer for the bulk of that game. They were handily beaten and that should serve as a wake-up call. This team has shown it can respond to ugly losses; now is the most crucial time to show that resolve.
It's an interesting coincidence that in round 1 of the 2018 playoffs, the Jets took a 2-0 series lead into Minnesota, and the Wild hammered them 6-2.
Just gotta flush game 3, regroup (coaches and players alike), and get ready for what should be a raucous game 4 on Sunday.
Two things become clear when you chime in here: you're ignorant to the complex nature of the game of hockey and you obviously didn't watch the game last night.
I usually don't give the trolls the time of day.
To many D-zone breakdowns. Far to many penalties. And, far to many giveaways. Agree with J5V on the CP91 goal. However the back breaker was the Helle giveaway. The sun came up this morning, so all is good.
Score was humbling
Our stars were on the ice for a lotta goals against
The total hits were remarkable.
Refs were to busy flinching from avoiding the action that they were unable to call a good game
Only one loss and Sunday may be quite different, in a Jets positive manner
Well that game sucked!! Blues are very tough to beat at home, but really, that was brutal. Agree the Perfetti goal was in, John Garrett did a good job on showing it was clearly in, but heck, in this stinker it didn't really matter.
Helleybuyck is trying to do too much, for the love of god, please quit playing the puck and focus on stopping it!! He is struggling big time man, and he goes, so do we.
First period of these games the Blues players energy levels does not look like anything I've seen in a hockey game.
They have definitely raised their game to another level at home, and the 7-2 score reflected that.
They'll come out just as hard next game and beat us again at home. I 'm just hoping our guys can raise their level of play up when they play at home or else face the same result
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 25, 2025, 01:18:43 PMTwo things become clear when you chime in here: you're ignorant to the complex nature of the game of hockey and you obviously didn't watch the game last night.
Or just about any other game that the World's best goalie, Connor Hellebuyck, has played in.
I saw this post on another forum today and wondered if it was accurate. If it is, do we have a major issue brewing here?
> I never realized the Jets were a dirty team .... Blues so far 15 PPs in 3 games.
> Jets had a stretch of 6 straight penalties ... one was so bad the refs got caught
> so they gave the Blues a penalty for a makeup call.
> Instead of everyone wearing white for the whiteout everyone in Winnipeg should go to the game dressed as
> refs.
> It's time to start calling out this BS officiating.
Quote from: J5V on April 26, 2025, 04:11:34 AMI saw this post on another forum today and wondered if it was accurate. If it is, do we have a major issue brewing here?
> I never realized the Jets were a dirty team .... Blues so far 15 PPs in 3 games.
> Jets had a stretch of 6 straight penalties ... one was so bad the refs got caught
> so they gave the Blues a penalty for a makeup call.
> Instead of everyone wearing white for the whiteout everyone in Winnipeg should go to the game dressed as
> refs.
> It's time to start calling out this BS officiating.
Jets have 11 PPs in three games. It hasn't been unfair reffing. It's just been really ticky-tacky on both sides.
Quote from: J5V on April 26, 2025, 12:42:00 AMOr just about any other game that the World's best goalie, Connor Hellebuyck, has played in.
I see a lot of excuses made for Helle during play-offs every year. And it's totally fair to want to defend the guy, he is the best goalie in the world.
But it's fair to say that the Jets play-off performances over the past 6ish years has not matched their regular season success - especially the past 2 seasons. And Helle is part of that. He's letting in goals we do not typically see him let in. He's making puck handling mistakes that are leading to chances against him.
Helle is great. He's not immune to criticism.
Quote from: Jesse on April 26, 2025, 12:14:55 PMJets have 11 PPs in three games. It hasn't been unfair reffing. It's just been really ticky-tacky on both sides.
I see a lot of excuses made for Helle during play-offs every year. And it's totally fair to want to defend the guy, he is the best goalie in the world.
But it's fair to say that the Jets play-off performances over the past 6ish years has not matched their regular season success - especially the past 2 seasons. And Helle is part of that. He's letting in goals we do not typically see him let in. He's making puck handling mistakes that are leading to chances against him.
Helle is great. He's not immune to criticism.
I also don't buy the unfair reffing, Jets took a lot of stupid/lazy penalties last game. As far as Helle goes, he's always been terrible at handling the puck. Definitely something he needs to work on.
Quote from: Pigskin on April 26, 2025, 04:36:16 PMI also don't buy the unfair reffing, Jets took a lot of stupid/lazy penalties last game. As far as Helle goes, he's always been terrible at handling the puck. Definitely something he needs to work on.
Agree on his poor puck handling. He's got to focus on stopping the puck and leave playing the puck behind his net for others. The give away for a goal last game was super deflating, that's a beer league mistake. He needs to be much much better moving forward or we're done. Also, not convinced he's the best goalie in the world after 3 games vs the Blues, he has looked very average in net.
We need a much better start today. CP91s line needs to put up some points. Also need to stay out of the penalty box.
Another stinker by Hellebuck
Quote from: bluengold204 on April 27, 2025, 07:23:32 PMAnother stinker by Hellebuck
Agree. He has looked very average in the playoffs, jinxed even. All this talk he's the best goalie in the world, heck ,he isn't even the best goalie in the rink!!!
The real series begins next game, and we have to erase these last 2 games. A truly must win game coming up as we aren't winning any games in St Louis
Montgomery is absolutely right in that he has a playoff tested goaltender and we do not. Binnington is slamming the door shut on the Jets.
Best of 3 coming up and truly wish for a series win
Vilardi would be a great addition and of course Ehlers is terribly needed
HellB has to star Wednesday with his better form
The Blues are really feeling it now and are rolling! They're about to knock off the President's Trophy winners featuring the Vezina Trophy winning goaltender!
I don't know what Arneil had to say in the dressing room but as soon as I saw his face when he came out for the media scrum I knew we were in trouble.
The Jets can say they are a different team but if they are, wouldn't they have shown it at some point in the last two games? Instead, they've been outscored 12-3, physically dominated, and show no sign of being able to turn this series around. They look devoid of hope. TBH, their body language, from Hellebuyck out, is saying they have no fight left in them. Schiefele is so embarrassed he couldn't even look up from the floor when he answered questions post game.
This looks very much like the Avs series from last year.
Everyone, fans, players, everyone, has been caught up in the Jets finishing first and calling themselves the 'best team in the league' and everyone is saying CH37 is the best goalie in the world bs, they forgot they have to go out and prove it every night.
Jets were outright pitiful in St Louis, ran out of the rink both games and embarrassed on the score board. Yes, we are missing 3 decent players, but tough, find a way to at least compete. We were just blown out 2 games in a row and look lifeless.
Gotta dig deep and find some answers or the 'best team in the league' will be booking tee times soon!!!
After a strong start yesterday, they completely fell apart in the second period. What a pathetic response to an equally pathetic performance on Thursday night.
This team has zero resilience come playoff time.
Scoring has dried up - yet again. Bottom 9 hasn't done anything outside of game 1.
Namestnikov has been invisible, which is a lousy look for a 2C at any point, but especially the playoffs.
Lowry letting the Blues get the best of him yesterday is a bad look for a captain.
Team D went down the toilet the last two games. Can't play like that and expect to win.
Hellebuyck is not making saves he'd been making with regularity during the season. Sure, he's not getting the help in front but he's let in some real softies in this series outside of game 2. All the Vezina and Hart trophies in the world don't matter if you can't show up in the post-season (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/by-the-numbers-connor-hellebuyck-s-playoff-struggles-continue-1.2296903).
Special teams have been whatever. The powerplay is so one dimensional without Vilardi, it's crazy.
I'm not holding out much hope for this team despite their monumental success during the regular season. This is the third time in as many years they can't compete when it matters most, and that's starting to look like a potential shortcoming with the current core of this team.
Game 5 is a must-win, IMO. If they lose, they're cooked in 6.
No one has lost a home game in the West. If that continues, we are in the cup final.
Yes, Helle is squeezing the stick. The entire fanbase is counting on him to do his magic. I'm surprised he is doing as well as he did at home.
But its not just on him. You have to score, and you have to stop high danger chances, and this teams has been doing neither.
Home game, with the whiteout, a "must win" for sure.
Should they start Comrie? Yikes, that shouldn't even cross one's mind. Vezina favourite vs. guy on league min contract. But Broissoit did it for Vegas... so it is not unprecedented.
ZERO chance they start Comrie, ZERO. They're going all the way with helleybuyck. He isn't MVP and Vezina nominee for nothing. He's had terrible puck luck, but that can only last for so long. He'll step up this next game---he has to!!
We need more offense other than Kyle Connor and Mark Scheifele. Every team in the playoffs has a good #1 line. The teams that have success get scoring from their #2 line consistently and sometimes their #3 line. Where's our #2 line?? They have been largely invisible this series. If it isn't KC or MS, nobody is generating any offense.
Depth scoring has dried right up. If that doesn't change, we all know how it ends for the Jets. This was the same issue that brought them down in last year's opening round.
It's so perplexing to me that what makes this team such a force during the season is yet to be consistently translated to the playoffs - despite personnel and coaching changes. I really hope Arniel has it what it takes to break away from that.
On the plus side, it sounds like Vilardi will play tomorrow.
Great to get Valardi back, maybe the PP can get rolling.
Still missing Ehlers, I think he really changes the game for us. I see many people complaining that we are too small, but speed kills. And Ehlers is speed, and magic with Perfetti and Namestikov.
Is he even skating?
Playoff Practice Report Apr. 29 (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-playoff-practice-report-53/)
Ehlers skating (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-winger-nikolaj-ehlers-skating/) with strength & conditioning coach.
Lines/D pairings:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Iafallo-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron- Anderson-Dolan
Toninato-Gustafsson-Kupari
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Stanley-Schenn
Fleury-Miller
Heinola
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Driedger
Iafallo on the second line is good, IMO. Hopefully, he can help spark some offense.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 29, 2025, 04:51:16 PMPlayoff Practice Report Apr. 29 (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-playoff-practice-report-53/)
Ehlers skating (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-winger-nikolaj-ehlers-skating/) with strength & conditioning coach.
Lines/D pairings:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Iafallo-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron- Anderson-Dolan
Toninato-Gustafsson-Kupari
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Stanley-Schenn
Fleury-Miller
Heinola
Hellebuyck
Comrie
Driedger
Iafallo on the second line is good, IMO. Hopefully, he can help spark some offense.
Great news about GV13. I am would think NE27 will be back soon. I think I would throw in a fresh Kupari. Love his speed.
8:30 start tonight, the arena will be crazy again tonight.
Absolute must win home game
Schefiele not on the bench, man we are dead without him!!
WOW !!!! Just a hustling, smart victory
If Ekland can get 2 games for a forearm to Hagel's neck, then my hopes are that Schenn gets 2 games for leaving his feet and nailing a defenceless Scheif
Huge win. They gotta close out the series tomorrow and show those dirtbags why they finished atop the league.
I can't believe how much greasy stuff the Blues have been getting away with in this series. Schenn's "hit" on Scheifele was disgusting; he should get a game for that garbage.
Hellebuyck probably wants that second goal back last night, but he was otherwise solid. That stick save was something else. Also nice to see depth scoring. Vilardi back in helped, IMO.
Jim Montgomery is a goof.
All of these fantastic players in the NHL, the training, the speed, endurance, the skill level, the coaching....
And the league lets the game revert to the Broad Street Bully style.
just when the most people are watching.
Very Stupid stuff.
I am loving what MS55 has turned into as a player, his 200ft game is so much different than when I was calling for him to be traded. You'd think a long term deal wuld allow him to take his foot off the gas, but it seems the opposite. That said:
MS55 committed the cardinal sin in hockey, he watched the puck and had his head down when Schenn barrelled into him.
Totally a suspendable hit, left his feet, defenseless opponent. Did Schenn think MS55 would not see him and take precautions? I think that split second decision process wasn't "premeditated", you would expect a player of MS55's experience not to leave himself open like that.
Had MS55 braced for impact, or dodged the check, its a nothingburger. Might actually have had Schenn hurt himself. But MS55 left himself open and vulnerable in a rookie mistake.
The league should give him a game. It would be appropriate as well if MS55 does miss a game, equitable punishment. Although with MS55 already missing 2/3's of a game, maybe 2 game suspension is better? They need in person for more than that, right?
*IF* they come back for game 7, if 55 and 27 end up back on the ice, I really like our chances.
Per Elliotte Friedman, no supplemental discipline from last night's game.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2025, 03:38:44 PMI am loving what MS55 has turned into as a player, his 200ft game is so much different than when I was calling for him to be traded.
Not this nonsense again.
(https://media.tenor.com/JUIwCVh8lHEAAAAM/lets-just-lets-move-on-president-orlean.gif)
The hit was late, dirty, and stupid. No room for that is the game.
The team played a 59 minute game. Last minute clearing problem by Schenn and a couple of D zone break downs lead to there 3rd. goal.
VN7 stepped up big time, when 5s went down.
GV13 looked VG for his first game back. A little winded at times but that was to be expected.
3rd. and 4th. line where outstanding all night. 62, needed to get back with 17/22. and 73 plays much better with 36/28.
CP91 is struggling. Needs to get the monkey off his back. Or get NE27 back ASAP.
Helle with one weak goal, but other wise very solid.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 01, 2025, 04:58:54 PMCP91 is struggling. Needs to get the monkey off his back. Or get NE27 back ASAP.
The whole second line has really fallen off since Ehlers' injury. I thought Iafallo provided some more energy last night, but they still struggled. I'm wondering if it's a size/physicality issue; the Blues have unfortunately matched up well in this series.
Scheifele out for Game 6 (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-indicated-mark-scheifele-wont-travel-to-st-louis-for-game-6/)
Ugh, that's no good.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 01, 2025, 05:19:05 PMScheifele out for Game 6 (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-indicated-mark-scheifele-wont-travel-to-st-louis-for-game-6/)
Ugh, that's no good.
So is it Concussion or a rib injury. My granddaughter was watching him on the bench after the second hit, and he was in a lot of pain.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2025, 03:38:44 PMI am loving what MS55 has turned into as a player, his 200ft game is so much different than when I was calling for him to be traded. You'd think a long term deal wuld allow him to take his foot off the gas, but it seems the opposite. That said:
MS55 committed the cardinal sin in hockey, he watched the puck and had his head down when Schenn barrelled into him.
Totally a suspendable hit, left his feet, defenseless opponent. Did Schenn think MS55 would not see him and take precautions? I think that split second decision process wasn't "premeditated", you would expect a player of MS55's experience not to leave himself open like that.
Had MS55 braced for impact, or dodged the check, its a nothingburger. Might actually have had Schenn hurt himself. But MS55 left himself open and vulnerable in a rookie mistake.
The league should give him a game. It would be appropriate as well if MS55 does miss a game, equitable punishment. Although with MS55 already missing 2/3's of a game, maybe 2 game suspension is better? They need in person for more than that, right?
*IF* they come back for game 7, if 55 and 27 end up back on the ice, I really like our chances.
Schenn should absolutely be suspended for a game. If that hit had happened on McDavid, he would've been suspended on the spot! Ridiculous
NE27 making the trip to St. Louis.
Quote from: dd on May 01, 2025, 11:44:43 PMSchenn should absolutely be suspended for a game. If that hit had happened on McDavid in any other series, he would've been suspended on the spot! Ridiculous
The officials in this series have let things devolve in pretty ugly fashion. Tonight's game could be a nasty one and that'll likely depend on what they allow early on.
Whatever it takes - get the road win and send those dirty clowns to the links.
Jets recall F Yager: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-recall-prospect-brayden-yager-from-lethbridge/
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 02, 2025, 01:22:37 PMThe officials in this series have let things devolve in pretty ugly fashion. Tonight's game could be a nasty one and that'll likely depend on what they allow early on.
Whatever it takes - get the road win and send those dirty clowns to the links.
I do not get the refs at all.
They have been so whistle happy with the most ticky-tackey stuff all series, but these launching hits that take out Scheifele aren't even reviewed for the possibility of a major?
Absolute horse-cr@p
This is going on in every series. One of the Kings players took and cross check to the throat last night. No call, apparently no one saw it. That also should be reviewed.
NE27 sheds his yellow jersey this morning. So, will it be 27/7/91. And if you do that, who plays (C) between 81 and 13, Gus, Toninato, or Yager.
Just hope they leave the 3rd. and 4th lines as they were last game. 62 plays better with 17 and 22. Tanev is a very good fit Barron.
Can Iafalo play the C spot? It would be a huge stretch to put in Yager, but it could also be lightning in a bottle. Probably Lowry or Gus.
One group reporting 81/7/13, 27?/17/91, 62/36/22, 73/21/9. D will stay the same.
Toninato is in for tonight 6'2" 201, good in the FO circle.
Hellebuck is helle sucking again
7 straight road games giving up 4+ goals.
Quote from: bluengold204 on May 03, 2025, 01:38:05 AMHellebuck is helle sucking again
True enough and going to be yanked for the third time in 6 games, yet he's the front runner for the Vezina trophy?? can't see how that can be, he's looked very bad in these playoffs. 5-1 after 2 periods!!! If MS55 doesn't play in game 7, we're dead before it even begins
Fart noise.
I do not understand why the Defence falls apart so quickly.
Regular season, They had a system, they followed it, it worked, they moved the puck out of their own end quickly smoothly, effectively, against the same team.
Suddenly..... can't do that, system abandoned.
These players have already shown, that they are capable of much better play.
Very odd.
Very good first 30 minutes. Far to many giveaways after that. Stanley and Demelo were terrible. Apps. with a lazy play along the blueline on the Barron goal. Noticed in third period 54/5 and 64/4 were paired a lot. 64/5 are to slow together. Might to time to get Miller or Fleury back in the lineup.
PP was better, PK was excellent.
Jets also VG in the FO circle.
MS55 was skating today and feels much better.
My lineup for game 7. 81/55/13, 27/36/91, 62/17/22, 73/7/9. Barron has been VG in this series. D. 44/2, 54/4, 5/6.
MS55 skating is great news, we miss his offense and leadership terribly.
He is going to be back for Game 7 and is going to be a force to be reckoned with!!
Quote from: dd on May 03, 2025, 08:04:17 PMMS55 skating is great news, we miss his offense and leadership terribly.
He is going to be back for Game 7 and is going to be a force to be reckoned with!!
I don't know. Hard to imagine an injury so severe that it kept him out of a playoff game, but so mild he can play 2 days later.
I wouldn't expect much of a force if he does return.
Quote from: Jesse on May 03, 2025, 11:46:42 PMI don't know. Hard to imagine an injury so severe that it kept him out of a playoff game, but so mild he can play 2 days later.
I wouldn't expect much of a force if he does return.
No doubt he will be gutting it out and won't be 100% , but he will give us a huge emotional lift by being in the lineup and
Quote from: Jesse on May 03, 2025, 11:46:42 PMI don't know. Hard to imagine an injury so severe that it kept him out of a playoff game, but so mild he can play 2 days later.
I wouldn't expect much of a force if he does return.
Emotion and adrenaline will carry him through this
Quote from: dd on May 03, 2025, 08:04:17 PMMS55 skating is great news, we miss his offense and leadership terribly.
He is going to be back for Game 7 and is going to be a force to be reckoned with!!
No he isn't. He's out.
Quote from: DCM on May 04, 2025, 07:01:17 PMNo he isn't. He's out.
Well, this is bad news. But, we won game 5 with him missing for 2 periods. Helle is going to have to be lights out.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 04, 2025, 07:58:10 PMWell, this is bad news. But, we won game 5 with him missing for 2 periods. Helle is going to have to be lights out.
I'm not sure we can count on Helle to be lights out. Blues are playing to his weaknesses.
Our successful games this series have come when we've limited the Blues' SOG.
Quote from: Jesse on May 04, 2025, 10:11:07 PMI'm not sure we can count on Helle to be lights out. Blues are playing to his weaknesses.
Our successful games this series have come when we've limited the Blues' SOG.
Helleybuyck looking like a flopping fish out of water on the 1st goal by the Blues a minute into game 7. Absolutely embarassing. Vezina trophy goalie my ***!!!!
Blues score their 2nd goal on 4 shots, man are we ever lucky we have the best goalie in the league in our nets!!! Its both embarassing and deflating.
Quote from: dd on May 04, 2025, 11:23:29 PMBlues score their 2nd goal on 4 shots, man are we ever lucky we have the best goalie in the league in our nets!!! Its both embarassing and deflating.
Wow, you were quick to change that post. No Moe, no MS55, and we still found away.
Nice to see the captain get the game winner. Helle was rock solid after the third goal. Hope he can continue that play in the next series. I also thought Fleury step in and had a very good game. CP91 back with NE27, had his best game of the playoffs.
INCREDIBLE, just simply FANTASTIC
Jets and Stars, Wednesday at 8:30. It would be nice to have MS55 back.
A game for the ages. Well done Jets!
Unbelievable stuff. What a comeback!
I don't think I've ever seen a player grow in a series more than Perfetti has. He was a phenom last night. And kudos to Pionk, Fleury, and Samberg for logging some heavy minutes in Morrissey's absence. And of course, El Capitan who never quit.
What. A. Win!
Quote from: dd on May 03, 2025, 02:08:50 AMTrue enough and going to be yanked for the third time in 6 games, yet he's the front runner for the Vezina trophy?? can't see how that can be, he's looked very bad in these playoffs. 5-1 after 2 periods!!! If MS55 doesn't play in game 7, we're dead before it even begins
The Vezina is a regular season award and has exactly nothing to do with the playoffs.
CH37 was left out to dry too much this game, one goal, Demelo had stepped up at teh line, and KC81 totally whiffed on covering for him. KC81 has some serious lapses in his game, I think losing MS55 was tough on his game, an then JM44 left him with a lot more responsibility.
Glad that CP91 really stepped up, he was not just noticeable last night, he shone. He was deft around the net, and was laying hits,
NE27 had flashes, but the puck seems to be bouncing off his stick alot, his hands aren't quite in game shape. Yet.
We will need 55 and 44 back for the next series for sure. And 37 to start looking like regular season CH37.
Saw people calling for a holiday for today, or a half day off... people, it was a great game (should have been 4-1 Jets with people leaving early to beat traffic, should have been a boring win) with an historic ending, but its round 1. I know that feels like a Stanly CUp already for this franchise, but there are 12 more wins for that. This has been 4.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 05, 2025, 01:34:43 PMSaw people calling for a holiday for today, or a half day off... people, it was a great game (should have been 4-1 Jets with people leaving early to beat traffic, should have been a boring win) with an historic ending, but its round 1. I know that feels like a Stanly CUp already for this franchise, but there are 12 more wins for that. This has been 4.
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Fans are elated by the Jets finally winning a round in the playoffs.
Let them celebrate - even if the team's only 1/4 of the way there.
I didn't see to many people leaving early last night, unless it was from the upper part of the arena. Our section full right till the end.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 05, 2025, 01:52:53 PMFans are elated by the Jets finally winning a round in the playoffs.
Let them celebrate - even if the team's only 1/4 of the way there.
I agree. This was a Very tough, "gutsy" win.. Ehlers almost won it in overtime.
Think he is back to full stride. Kenny and renny were Raving about team composure.
I am really happy for the team, and for the fans.
Amazing win. (I couldn't watch live... I get too nervous 😬)
In a close game... difference between a win and a loss is measured in millimetres.
Quote from: markf on May 05, 2025, 02:13:14 PMI agree. This was a Very tough, "gutsy" win.. Ehlers almost won it in overtime.
Think he is back to full stride. Kenny and renny were Raving about team composure.
I am really happy for the team, and for the fans.
Amazing win. (I couldn't watch live... I get too nervous 😬)
In a close game... difference between a win and a loss is measured in millimetres.
I don't think NE27 is at full stride yet. His timing is off, and he needs another game or two to get back into game shape.
Round 2 Schedule (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-and-dallas-stars-second-round-schedule/)
QuoteGame 1- Wednesday, May 7th in Winnipeg at 8:30 PM CDT
Game 2 -Friday, May 9th in Winnipeg at 8:30 PM CDT
Game 3 – Sunday, May 11th in Dallas at 3:30 PM CDT
Game 4 – Tuesday, May 13th in Dallas at 7 PM CDT
Game 5 – Thursday, May 15th in Winnipeg*
Game 6 – Saturday, May 17th in Dallas*
Game 7 – Monday, May 19th in Winnipeg*
*if needed.
Fun fact: former HC Bowness called the comeback last night on TNT during the second intermission.
Like nothing I've ever seen before. These are the moments you spend your whole fandom waiting for. We will never forget this.
At the end......Lowery was clutch, wow.
Team of Destiny?
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 05, 2025, 07:34:04 PMLike nothing I've ever seen before. These are the moments you spend your whole fandom waiting for. We will never forget this.
This.
It was a historic comeback victory.
Scheifele, Morrissey, and Stanley skating in non-contact jerseys today.
I would put Fleury in before Stanley. Fleury is a much before skater and doesn't turnover the puck like Stanley does.
Playoff Practice Report May 6 (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-playoff-practice-report-54/)
Of note: once skate got underway both Stanley and Morrissey left the ice.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 06, 2025, 05:08:55 PMI would put Fleury in before Stanley. Fleury is a much before skater and doesn't turnover the puck like Stanley does.
I'd have to think Stanley's the odd man out at this point. Granted it's only a game but Fleury was solid on Sunday night, so I think he's earned some trust.
As an aside, I just hope whatever demons hounded the team in the opening round - on the road, especially - have been vanquished, and they can play within their system and control this next series.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 06, 2025, 04:54:32 PMScheifele, Morrissey, and Stanley skating in non-contact jerseys today.
All three players listed as game-time decisions (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-head-coach-scott-arniel-with-latest-on-mark-scheifele-josh-morrissey-logan-stanley/)
Optional skate today. MS55 took some reps with the PP unit. Sounds like Fleury was paired with Demelo.
Here we go everyone!
Game 1!!
Scheifele, Morrissey, Stanley all skating in regular jerseys. Only Scheifele is skating with the rest of the team, which would suggest neither Morrissey nor Stanley will play tonight.
Lines/D pairings:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederrieter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Fleury-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Miller-Schenn
Hellebuyck
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 07, 2025, 04:18:18 PMScheifele, Morrissey, Stanley all skating in regular jerseys. Only Scheifele is skating with the rest of the team, which would suggest neither Morrissey nor Stanley will play tonight.
Lines/D pairings:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederrieter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Fleury-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Miller-Schenn
Hellebuyck
Like the forwards, to bad MOE can't go tonight. But, this group of D-men should do well. Dallas is a very stacked team. A lot of big skilled players. Going to be another tough series. Lot's of friends looking for tickets. It's myself and the grandkids tonight. GO JETS.
Strategy going forward: contain Rantanen, start faster, improve the powerplay.
Bettman speaks glowingly of Jets franchise, says Winnipeg fans won't soon forget playoff heroics (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/bettman-winnipeg-visit-1.7529544)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2025, 01:02:47 PMStrategy going forward: contain Rantanen, start faster, improve the powerplay.
Yes, this about sums it up. Jets had lots of scoring chances. More net front traffic.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 08, 2025, 02:15:04 PMBettman speaks glowingly of Jets franchise, says Winnipeg fans won't soon forget playoff heroics (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/bettman-winnipeg-visit-1.7529544)
Oh, so that explains it! Bettman jinxed us by coming to Winnipeg for game 1 :-(
Here's to hoping Bettman's long gone for game 2.
Morrissey skating with DeMelo on the top pairing, back on PP1.
Lines/D pairings:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederrieter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Miller
Hellebuyck
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 09, 2025, 04:48:03 PMMorrissey skating with DeMelo on the top pairing, back on PP1.
Lines/D pairings:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederrieter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Miller
Hellebuyck
No Schenn??
Complete game. NE27 looks like he is finally up to speed. Helle was excellent. AL17 a true leader.
Best game of the play-offs so far.
Great to see all of our players back in the line-up. Hopefully we're just getting started now.
When this team can ice its full lineup and its lines are back together, it is a juggernaut.
First game this post season they've done that, and BOOM.
Can't stop grinning when I reflect on the excitement that occurs with a Jet victory
We got a few bounces, hustled to the puck, broke up many a Star effort and created some terrific offensive chances
No doubt that HellB was on top of his game and that our Dmen were playing smart and bravely
Sloppy D-zone play, and our bread and butter all season the PP was terrible.
Yes sloppy many times, compounded with our lack of any control in the middle of the ice and voila —- no cigars today
Might be time to bring back a little muscle on D. A couple of Stars players taking some liberties.
Agree. We picked up Schenn for a reason, play him!!
Little disappointed in a couple of delays in the game yesterday. Refs took to long to figure a decision on the Duchene puck over the glass call. And then the marathon to figure the kicked puck goal. These two calls added up to about 15 minutes in delays. Really not a good look for the NHL.
The rules don't seem matter come the playoffs. According the rulebook (49.2), that third Stars goal should've been called back. Pretty bad look to not only review it for 10 minutes but then to get it wrong... Comical.
Jets gotta win tonight. They gotta crack that goose egg and win a road game.
I hate the kicked goal.
Its not illegal to kick the puck to yourself, or another player.
Helly literally pushed the puck into his own net. A "self goal".
Last offensive player to touch the puck gets the goal.
Last action of that player was a distinct kicking motion towards the net.
Kick the puck at the net and get credit for the goal.
In this case, I see the point, and I hate it.
If it had bounced off Helly and in, no goal, I'm sure that's the call.
Helly put the puck in the net. Good goal.
Sad, but true.
But it shouldn't take 10 minutes to get there.
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Seems like 49.2(ii) covers it but was not considered/applied. I can't figure it out but it doesn't matter now, anyway.
Looks like the same lines/D pairings for tonight as last game:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederrieter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Miller
Hellebuyck
I hope they've been working on the powerplay, which has been pretty craptacular this post-season.
If Stanley/Schenn are healthy, I'd rather that 3rd pairing.
This is a must win to even the series and take home ice back. Fast start, big hits and shell Ottinger often, zing it at his head.
Back check is going to factor in a lot, no doubt we are going to take offensive chances and activate the D, but the F have to get ready to cover. There's a speed guy on every line, they need heads on a swivel to make sure there are no odd man rushes.
I have a good feeling for this game, time for Helly to steal us one. No softies.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 13, 2025, 04:45:46 PMLooks like the same lines/D pairings for tonight as last game:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederrieter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Miller
Hellebuyck
I hope they've been working on the powerplay, which has been pretty craptacular this post-season.
Yes, the PP has to be much better. Can't be taking penalties early in the game. 27/7/91 have to show up tonight. This line has been missing in action all series.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 13, 2025, 07:15:28 PM27/7/91 have to show up tonight. This line has been missing in action all series.
They've been too quiet since their game 7 performance.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 13, 2025, 07:22:54 PMThey've been too quiet since their game 7 performance.
Consistency, this line is up and down like a roller coaster.
Heiskanen is back tonight. Heavy on the dump and chase, hammer him every chance we get.
that is what happens when you don't shoot at the goalies chest...you watching ehlers???
Played good enough to win. Oettinger was outstanding all night. Backs to the wall now. 3 wins in a row is a tall order.
Something about the number 11.
The Jets have won 0 of the last 11 elimination games on home ice.
Hellebuyck has let in 11 goals in these playoffs from over 30 feet.
Combine that with no wins on the road this playoffs and the odds of coming back in this series are beyond bleak.
It's a good thing I don't believe the past defines the present. The Jets just have to flush the results of this series so far and find a way to win this next game in Winnipeg. If the Jets can do that, then the pressure would actually shift to the Stars who would have to beat us 3 times in Dallas to avoid a game 7 in Winnipeg.
We've got them right where we want them.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 14, 2025, 03:16:41 AMPlayed good enough to win. Oettinger was outstanding all night. Backs to the wall now. 3 wins in a row is a tall order.
Did they? One goal isn't going to cut it. Special teams are a mess. Team structure isn't being adhered to, especially when they're trailing. Hellebuyck just can't find his game.
Full marks to Oettinger but the Jets haven't done much in terms of net front presence. He's had it easy in this series outside of game 2, IMO.
I can't see this series going past 6.
Seems like the other playoff teams have higher ability to increase the intensity in the post season. Why are the jets so efficient at moving the puck out of their own end, regular season, then they have problems with that post season?
Beats me.
I watched the Hurricanes game the other day. I predict that team will win the Stanley Cup.
Just a guess, but they don't seem to drop off much top to bottom of their lineup, and they stick to their system.
Tanev, Appleton, Schenn, and DeMelo cannot be Jets next season.
0 goals from Scheifele, Connor, and Valardi in a game we had to have is unacceptable.
Hellebuyck is obviously rattled and has lost the right to automatically play game 5. He cannot be letting in that (11th) +30 foot wrist shot for the first goal. Unacceptable. Sit him and play Comrie.
There is a bad smell coming off this team and if they go out with a wimper in game 5 at home in front of their fans they deserve whatever vitriol comes their way.
Wow, we went from the team of destiny on May 6th, to a team with a bad smell quickly.
The Jets have scored eight goals in five road games this post-season. That's a measly 1.6 G/60 on the road. That is pathetic.
If you can own home ice, fine. But they lost that after game 1.
Now they gotta try and win three in a row just to stay alive...
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Quote from: J5V on May 14, 2025, 01:43:59 PMTanev, Appleton, Schenn, and DeMelo cannot be Jets next season.
0 goals from Scheifele, Connor, and Valardi in a game we had to have is unacceptable.
No goals.... Sometimes this team just has bad puck luck it seems.
Connor is a very skilled player, but for the most part he seems to avoid contact, and is hit and miss on back checking as far as I can tell.
Too bad cause his skating,passing, puck handling, shooting skills are top notch. Really fun to watch.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 14, 2025, 02:37:14 PMThe Jets have scored eight goals in five road games this post-season. That's a measly 1.6 G/60 on the road. That is pathetic.
Agree. Can't keep the puck out of their net and can't put it in the opponent's net. That's a recipe for disaster. I'm generally a glass-half-full type of fan but even I am very down on this team right now. If I was Arneil I'd start benching the underperformers and start double-shifting the ones that have shown some heart and grit. Tanev with the fly-bys and DeMelo with the lazy bone-headed penalty really irks me.
Need to start game 6 with line 3, then line 4, and get some hits and energy into the game.
Need to crash the net *effectively*, just being there is not enough. Need to cause havoc in the crease, and make Dallas start taking whacks at Jets.
Need to bring the heavy game. When you see a big hit and go, "Great", and then you see it is 27, you know something is not right.
Tanev, no debating his heart or his hustle, but he needs to be effective.
PP has to get a lot better. Is 13 fully healthy? Can he play netfront and get those garbage knock ins? He seems to be getting blown out.
Lastly, Helly HAS to steal one road game. ONE. He gave up a home game, needs to get that back. Two real softies last night is not Vezina/Hart play.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 14, 2025, 03:50:44 PMNeed to start game 6 with line 3, then line 4, and get some hits and energy into the game.
Need to crash the net *effectively*, just being there is not enough. Need to cause havoc in the crease, and make Dallas start taking whacks at Jets.
Need to bring the heavy game. When you see a big hit and go, "Great", and then you see it is 27, you know something is not right.
Tanev, no debating his heart or his hustle, but he needs to be effective.
PP has to get a lot better. Is 13 fully healthy? Can he play netfront and get those garbage knock ins? He seems to be getting blown out.
Lastly, Helly HAS to steal one road game. ONE. He gave up a home game, needs to get that back. Two real softies last night is not Vezina/Hart play.
I disagree on the the two softies. The first Stars goal was a puck he should had. But, the other two goals where excellent shots.
I never thought this team would win the cup. Just not big enough and didn't do enough at the trade deadline. Our second line C probably doesn't even make the Dallas roster. Our D is small and can not clear big forwards from in front of the net. I also don't think 13,44,27, or 55 are 100%.
Watched the KC81 break away again. Heiskanen should have received a penalty for that big slash to KC81 hands.
Namestnikov is not a 2C. And that's only exacerbated when the top line struggles.
What's made this team successful in the regular season the last two years is not translating come playoff time. Or if it does, it's a flash in the pan and can't be maintained over a seven-game series.
It's as baffling as it is disappointing and frustrating.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 14, 2025, 04:23:56 PMI disagree on the the two softies. The first Stars goal was a puck he should had. But, the other two goals where excellent shots.
Glove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies. Sorry.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 14, 2025, 05:23:25 PMGlove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies. Sorry.
I find it hard to believe Helleybuyck is even in the discussion for the Vezina trophy, he has been a total disappointment AGAIN in the playoffs. Was totally outplayed by Oettenger last night, AGAIN. So tired of all the ballyhoo and excuses.
Quote from: dd on May 14, 2025, 05:46:46 PMI find it hard to believe Helleybuyck is even in the discussion for the Vezina trophy, he has been a total disappointment AGAIN in the playoffs. Was totally outplayed by Oettenger last night, AGAIN. So tired of all the ballyhoo and excuses, as it doesn't really matter.
Because the Vezina has nothing to do with the play-offs and is voted on before they start.
I wanted to believe otherwise, but we've shown again that the first round is this team's ceiling.
Based on match-up, we can sometimes get through to round 2, but as soon as the competition takes a step forward, we take a step back.
Oh well, it was a fun season and now we're 10 days away from watching the Bombers.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 14, 2025, 05:23:25 PMGlove side high is not a spot a Vezina/Hart trophy nominee should be giving up softies. Sorry.
Says the goaltending expert.
Quote from: Jesse on May 14, 2025, 06:08:51 PMBecause the Vezina has nothing to do with the play-offs and is voted on before they start.
Just ignore him and his bad faith posting. That was already pointed out right after the first round. (https://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=55990.msg1653692#msg1653692)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 14, 2025, 06:22:36 PMSays the goaltending expert.
Just ignore him and his bad faith posting. That was already pointed out right after the first round. (https://forums.bluebombers.com/index.php?topic=55990.msg1653692#msg1653692)
I know, just gonna keep telling him though.
And don't get me wrong, Helle deserves his criticism. For as much as he's the reason we make it to the play-offs, he is a big part of these play-off failures.
It's all between the ears with Hellebuyck and I suspect he had been reading the media gushing all over him before the playoffs began. When he got destroyed by the Avs last year and he said he thought he was on his game and playing great I knew something wasn't right with this guy. We need a goalie whisperer or a hypnotist to work their magic and say something to Hellebuyck to help get his head right.
Quote from: J5V on May 14, 2025, 10:28:37 PMIt's all between the ears with Hellebuyck and I suspect he had been reading the media gushing all over him before the playoffs began. When he got destroyed by the Avs last year and he said he thought he was on his game and playing great I knew something wasn't right with this guy. We need a goalie whisperer or a hypnotist to work their magic and say something to Hellebuyck to help get his head right.
You're right, its all between the ears for sure. And as much as he wanted to prove to everyone that he could perform better and be the goalie we need in the playoffs this year, all he did was dig the hole deeper. And next year, do we really expect anything different??
This isn't all just on Hellebuyck.
I think the entire team could use a sports psychologist. Maybe there's a group discount.
Do or die tonight. I expect the Jets to come out with a lot of energy. There's been a few players missing in action offensively. Time to step up. PP has to get going. Can't have any D-zone break downs.
Literally a must win game tonite.
Literally.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 15, 2025, 01:14:43 PMThis isn't all just on Hellebuyck.
I think the entire team could use a sports psychologist. Maybe there's a group discount.
It is not.
But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.
And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.
Quote from: Jesse on May 15, 2025, 03:58:23 PMIt is not.
But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.
And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.
Totally agree with you.
He was the best goalie in the regular season. But that hasn't translated into the post-season - yet again.
The Jets were the best team in the regular season. But that hasn't translated into the post-season, which isn't all that different from a year ago.
And for me, the similarities are staggering:
- top end talent not showing up (Hellebuyck, Scheifele, Connor, etc.)
- special teams are terrible
- adherence to system/structure falls apart (especially when they're down a goal or two)
- depth not pulling its weight (Namestnikov, Perfetti, Appleton, Tanev, etc.)
- discipline issues and bad penalties
No tenacity. No sense of urgency. No compete level when it matters most.
As an aside, it's crazy how the Jets couldn't adjust to the Stars 11/7 line-up the other night. It looks the same for tonight, so I expect better.
Who knows, though. I'm getting tired of watching this team fail in the playoffs.
Quote from: Jesse on May 15, 2025, 03:58:23 PMIt is not.
But just like he gets an inordinate amount of praise when we're rolling, he's going to get a large amount of criticism when we're falling flat on our faces.
And justifiably so. He and Scheif are the highest paid players on our team and need to be winning these games for us. He has been one of the worst goaltenders in the play-offs.
They actually pointed out last night on HNIC that he has the worst save % amongst current playoff goalies. So while it might not be totally his fault, a good amount of blame is justified. If we had Bob in net, I am thinking our record would be much much better than it is.
Lines/D pairings for game 5:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Tanev-Barron-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk
Fleury-Schenn
Hellebuyck
Time to dig deep, fellas.
I'll chime in with an "LFG" here right now and a belief that it's not over until it's over. Crazier things have happened than winning 3 games in a row for this group. I owe them some real genuine faith here tonight and I'm going to give it to them.
"WE BELIEVE"...or at least I do.
LFG. GO JETS GO.
Get Ehlers with Scheif and KFC, move Vilardi with Names and Fetts
Let Names race around like a center but have Vil take faceoffs
Sadly it won't happen but geez I wish Kupari, our best at
faceoffs and a terrific hard hitting hustler could replace
Tanev, who just isn't effective
Soar Jets and Strike often
Quote from: blue_or_die on May 15, 2025, 07:06:38 PMI'll chime in with an "LFG" here right now and a belief that it's not over until it's over. Crazier things have happened than winning 3 games in a row for this group. I owe them some real genuine faith here tonight and I'm going to give it to them.
"WE BELIEVE"...or at least I do.
LFG. GO JETS GO.
I don't believe but will happily be proven wrong.
I have faith in the Jets winning 3 straight games, it's that one road game that is really a sticking point.
Ya, the win over St Louis was our miracle of the season, we won't get another one.
Jets needs to upgrade 2nd line centre to get/generate more offense, as the Jets are about as snake bit as the Leafs right now in terms of scoring goals
Dominant win tonight. Helle was outstanding. PP and PK were both excellent. Excellent team win. Now win one in Dallas.
Took one of the Bombers to the game tonight. He said he thought PAS was loud, but this place is crazy, Wow, Winnipeg has some great sports fans.
Another dominant win. Solid defensive effort, special teams were good, Hellebuyck was dialed in, and everyone stepped up. That's what it takes to win in the playoffs.
Now they gotta get that monkey off their backs, employ the same strategy as last night, and get a win on the road.
Quote from: dd on May 15, 2025, 10:38:00 PMYa, the win over St Louis was our miracle of the season, we won't get another one.
That's not how it works.
And one more thing: Jamie Benn is garbage.
Such a fabulous showing by the lads from start to finish
Great "fluke" goal by 55 to begin and everyone was glowing with the excitement generated the rest of the nite
Refs were such a head scratching duo
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2025, 01:01:49 PMAnother dominant win. Solid defensive effort, special teams were good, Hellebuyck was dialed in, and everyone stepped up. That's what it takes to win in the playoffs.
Now they gotta get that monkey off their backs, employ the same strategy as last night, and get a win on the road.
That's not how it works.
And one more thing: Jamie Benn is garbage.
Agree, JB14 is a dirty cheap player.
Great game in all facets, shots, hits, dominating everything.
CH37 had a game, and I hope that's the start of a bunch of them.
Had a great laugh when the TV coverage showed the white out party, lookin like drowned rats with big smiles and wet white tshirts... 4k is really crisp and clear...
JB14 gets a $5K fine for his cowardly punch to MS55 head while being held by the ref.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 16, 2025, 04:54:47 PMGreat game in all facets, shots, hits, dominating everything.
CH37 had a game, and I hope that's the start of a bunch of them.
Had a great laugh when the TV coverage showed the white out party, lookin like drowned rats with big smiles and wet white tshirts... 4k is really crisp and clear...
The last part of this sound a little creepy.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 16, 2025, 03:05:53 PMAgree, JB14 is a dirty cheap player.
A scumbag and a coward - totally undeserving of that C.
I hope the Jets use that petulant garbage as motivation for tomorrow.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2025, 05:48:47 PMA scumbag and a coward - totally undeserving of that C.
I hope the Jets use that petulant garbage as motivation for tomorrow.
Their coach was all for the move too.
Just called it play off hockey like a sucker punch just a natural part of the game.
A sucker punch is not what MS55 needed just returning from a concussion.
Quote from: Jesse on May 16, 2025, 06:57:16 PMTheir coach was all for the move too.
Just called it play off hockey like a sucker punch just a natural part of the game.
DeBoer's a bozo and a hypocrite, so it tracks.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2025, 01:01:49 PMAnother dominant win. Solid defensive effort, special teams were good, Hellebuyck was dialed in, and everyone stepped up. That's what it takes to win in the playoffs.
Now they gotta get that monkey off their backs, employ the same strategy as last night, and get a win on the road.
That's not how it works.
And one more thing: Jamie Benn is garbage.
Winning one game is not a miracle, winning 3 in a row would be!!
And yes, Jamie Benn is a total douche.
Time to win one on the road. Helle will have to be outstanding. Team will be a key. Go Jets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 16, 2025, 01:01:49 PMAnd one more thing: Jamie Benn is garbage.
Cuz sucker-punching a defenseless player who's being held by a ref is about as low as it gets. DeBoers needs a tune-up for putting Benn on the ice in that situation. Total dick move.
NHL refs need a tune-up for gifting Dallas a power play due to the altercation and disgraceful performance by the Dallas captain.
George Parros needs a tune-up for giving Benn a fine of $5,000 and no suspension for cowardly sucker-punching a defenseless player. Scheifele could have been seriously injured after being attacked Todd Bertuzzi style.
Gary Bettman needs a tune-up for allowing this once-great league to descend into depravity before our very eyes.
Sad news about the passing of MS55 father this morning.
Very entertaining year of hockey. Boy's battled till the end. Tough ending.
Team hustled, hit and gave it their all.
Quite the season, full of great highlights but unfortunately without the happy ending we wanted
Condolences to Scheifle, his family and friends
Well, unfortunately, that's all she wrote. Great intense game, should have won the game on Appleton's open net chance, but thats the way it goes.
Very happy with Coach Arniel this season. Lots of ?? around him and the team to start the season. But, he really pulled this team together. Now, hopefully over the summer we fine a true 2nd. line (C).
The only word that comes to mind for what I'm feeling towards Mark Scheifele and the Jets is, cruel. My heart goes out to Mark for the loss of his father.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2025, 05:50:16 PMVery happy with Coach Arniel this season. Lots of ?? around him and the team to start the season. But, he really pulled this team together. Now, hopefully over the summer we fine a true 2nd. line (C).
To get to the next level, this is the obvious need. We need a dominant centre man, period. MS55 was ok, but others were far far less than 50%, also need steady goal production from Line #2. Eihlers and Perfetti had their moments, can't recall even who the 3rd member of that line is, as he didn't get any G's for us.
Definite upgrades needed and still can't understand why we didn't do more at the trade deadline all things considered. Schenn and Tanev were disappointing under-performers.
Appleton a classic under-performer too. He couldn't have been set up any better by an absolutely perfect pass and could have buried one when we needed it most but shot it at the goalie rather that put it into a wide open 4x6. Good grief! A beer league player could have potted that one. He better not be a Jet next season or if he is it better be as a 5th liner.
Quote from: J5V on May 19, 2025, 10:28:56 PMDefinite upgrades needed and still can't understand why we didn't do more at the trade deadline all things considered. Schenn and Tanev were disappointing under-performers.
Appleton a classic under-performer too. He couldn't have been set up any better by an absolutely perfect pass and could have buried one when we needed it most but shot it at the goalie rather that put it into a wide open 4x6. Good grief! A beer league player could have potted that one. He better not be a Jet next season or if he is it better be as a 5th liner.
I thought Schenn and Tanev brought a much needed physical presence on the ice.
In the off season, I'd be going for an upgrade at #2 centre, and bring in a youth, fast, mobile and PHYSICAL defenseman. We miss the Buff-Meyers-Trouba-Charot days when we had big mean defensemen out there. We have more finesse D now with Morrissey and Pionk, but we need a stud back there who can keep teams honest and pound them/make life difficult in front of our net when they have the puck.
Quote from: dd on May 19, 2025, 10:42:05 PMI thought Schenn and Tanev brought a much needed physical presence on the ice.
In the off season, I'd be going for an upgrade at #2 centre, and bring in a youth, fast, mobile and PHYSICAL defenseman. We miss the Buff-Meyers-Trouba-Charot days when we had big mean defensemen out there. We have more finesse D now with Morrissey and Pionk, but we need a stud back there who can keep teams honest and pound them/make life difficult in front of our net when they have the puck.
I agree, Chevy could have done more at the trade deadline. Should have given up a our late 1st. round pick and one these prospects still playing for the Moose, for a second line (c) or big RW that can score. But, as far as Tanev and Schenn they booth played as advertised. Tanev is the Tasmanian devil and Schenn is a D-man that will pound players all night.
I've had a couple of days to digest this. This was a team good enough to win the regular season. That's it. I sincerely expected them to force another game beyond Saturday but they couldn't find a way.
Not really sure what else there is to it other than this team simply lacked the horses up front. On the road, they got exposed handily with the exception of Saturday's night loss - one which I thought was by far their best road game of the playoffs. There's no consolation in that, though.
This team needs a bonafide 2C to round out the top 6. Namestnikov is versatile and plays a strong two-way game, but lacks the offensive prowess and speed to drive the second line on a consistent basis. This gets further exposed when the bottom 6 struggles to find offense.
Appleton was lousy all playoffs, IMO. He never seemed to find his way and when he did get an opportunity to make an impact, it was squandered. Missing that gaping net the other night will probably haunt him forever.
Special teams were mostly a disaster when it really mattered; it's fitting that they got bounced by a PPG against. There's nothing that can be said about how much the powerplay cratered; it's baffling. The PK was streaky and struggled mightily on the road. This was exacerbated by a lack of discipline at times.
Hellebuyck needs to figure out how to translate his regular season game to the playoffs, particularly on the road. He was better in the second round, so I'm hopeful he shook whatever demons had been haunting him.
Is this second round loss more scar tissue for this team? Time will tell.
It is imperative they add a proven 2C, IMO.
Rest In Peace, Brad Scheifele. Sorry for your loss, Mark.
Did anyone see that the Dallas owner gave MS55 his jet to go home after the game? Nice move.
A great season for the Jets overall.
For those suggesting Appleton missed winning the game with his open net miss, anyone relying on Appleton to win you a game is hopeful at best.
Yes, every player has to make hay while the sun shines, and you need to pot those easy ones. And you can bet, Appleton is replaying that in his mind over, and over, and over. But he's not on the team to score.
We lost that game because no one scored. MS55 got one, but he should not have been alone on the scoresheet. CH37 did a great job of keeping them in, and I was really hoping MS55 would have drawn a penalty shot on old crappy ice, rather than a minor going over to fresh ice. I think CH37 comes up with a penalty shot save that powers the team into an overtime win.
Losing JM44 was huge, especially on that final PK. Hope it isn't as bad as some people are suggesting, and that he's back in great shape to start the season.
Agree with most.
Need that 2C but Chevy seems to do all he can at trade deadline. Simple fact is that we're on no trade clause that guys won't waive.
This seems to be our ceiling, so you just kind of have to enjoy it for it is. There will be many years where to don't get this far.
Ehlers to join Team Denmark at IIHF WHC (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-nikolaj-ehlers-to-play-for-team-denmark-at-world-championship/)
Quote from: Jesse on May 20, 2025, 04:36:05 PMAgree with most.
Need that 2C but Chevy seems to do all he can at trade deadline. Simple fact is that we're on no trade clause that guys won't waive.
This seems to be our ceiling, so you just kind of have to enjoy it for it is. There will be many years where to don't get this far.
Agreed. I think expectations were high with the Jets winning the Presidents trophy, but as we have seen in the past, it is almost the kiss of death winning that.
Jets did well. Need a more diversified offense. When MS55 and KC81 are on the ice, they are dominant. When the remaining 3 lines are on the ice, they are not. We are still 1-2 players away--a physical, proven goal scorer, and a big, tough, mobile D man, but I bet alot of teams are saying the same thing!!
Quote from: theaardvark on May 20, 2025, 04:25:06 PMDid anyone see that the Dallas owner gave MS55 his jet to go home after the game? Nice move.
A great season for the Jets overall.
For those suggesting Appleton missed winning the game with his open net miss, anyone relying on Appleton to win you a game is hopeful at best.
Yes, every player has to make hay while the sun shines, and you need to pot those easy ones. And you can bet, Appleton is replaying that in his mind over, and over, and over. But he's not on the team to score.
We lost that game because no one scored. MS55 got one, but he should not have been alone on the scoresheet. CH37 did a great job of keeping them in, and I was really hoping MS55 would have drawn a penalty shot on old crappy ice, rather than a minor going over to fresh ice. I think CH37 comes up with a penalty shot save that powers the team into an overtime win.
Losing JM44 was huge, especially on that final PK. Hope it isn't as bad as some people are suggesting, and that he's back in great shape to start the season.
I didn't hear that, and super classy move by the Stars owner!!
Giving Namestikov 2 yrs at $6mil says we are not looking for a 2C. MS55 is here forever, and AL17 is our 3C, so I think that part of the lineup is set.
Lambert will eventually be the 2C, maybe by the time Namestikov's deal is up. I think the ship has sailed on CP91 moving to C, he's just been working too well on the wing, I think he has "found his game".
Re-signing Ehlers, even with the cap going up, is going to be a struggle. MS55 and CH37 are barely into their deals, which are now team friendly value deals. But Conner is going to be $11mil+, Samberg is getting a substantial raise. Vilardi needs a deal. The last two might get bridged, but that puts us inline with Morissey's new deal.
There are a lot of moving parts here, and while I absolutely love Ehlers and watching him play, I think a long term deal at $8 mil is going to be tough both to fit and even to get him to sign. I don't think he can command $10mil, but $8.5 might get multiple offers.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 20, 2025, 04:25:06 PMDid anyone see that the Dallas owner gave MS55 his jet to go home after the game? Nice move.
A great season for the Jets overall.
For those suggesting Appleton missed winning the game with his open net miss, anyone relying on Appleton to win you a game is hopeful at best.
Yes, every player has to make hay while the sun shines, and you need to pot those easy ones. And you can bet, Appleton is replaying that in his mind over, and over, and over. But he's not on the team to score.
We lost that game because no one scored. MS55 got one, but he should not have been alone on the scoresheet. CH37 did a great job of keeping them in, and I was really hoping MS55 would have drawn a penalty shot on old crappy ice, rather than a minor going over to fresh ice. I think CH37 comes up with a penalty shot save that powers the team into an overtime win.
Losing JM44 was huge, especially on that final PK. Hope it isn't as bad as some people are suggesting, and that he's back in great shape to start the season.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 20, 2025, 06:58:37 PMGiving Namestikov 2 yrs at $6mil says we are not looking for a 2C. MS55 is here forever, and AL17 is our 3C, so I think that part of the lineup is set.
Lambert will eventually be the 2C, maybe by the time Namestikov's deal is up. I think the ship has sailed on CP91 moving to C, he's just been working too well on the wing, I think he has "found his game".
Re-signing Ehlers, even with the cap going up, is going to be a struggle. MS55 and CH37 are barely into their deals, which are now team friendly value deals. But Conner is going to be $11mil+, Samberg is getting a substantial raise. Vilardi needs a deal. The last two might get bridged, but that puts us inline with Morissey's new deal.
There are a lot of moving parts here, and while I absolutely love Ehlers and watching him play, I think a long term deal at $8 mil is going to be tough both to fit and even to get him to sign. I don't think he can command $10mil, but $8.5 might get multiple offers.
Your dreaming if you think VN7 is a second line C. Just doesn't have the finish. He not that good in the FO circle, he averages 10 goals a season.
Playoff Scoring:
81/55/13. 33 games, 32 points. GV13 4 points in 9 games.
62/17/22. 39 games, 17 points. MA22 lead this group with 7A.
27/7/91. 34 games, 19 points. VN7 and CP91 played 13 games and both had 6 points.
73/36/9/28. 44 games, 6 points. BT73 zero point. IA9 1G, 1A. JAD28, 5 games, 1G,1A.
D-men.
DD2. 12 games. 1G, 3A.
NP4. 13 games. 1G, 6A
CM6. 4 games. 2A
JM44. 11 games. 6A.
DS54. 13 games. 3A.
So MA22 finished tied for 3rd. in playoff scoring for the Jets.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 20, 2025, 05:11:21 PMEhlers to join Team Denmark at IIHF WHC (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-nikolaj-ehlers-to-play-for-team-denmark-at-world-championship/)
Yes, this is a BS tournament. A guy can be added the last game of the round robin. Also not a thing I would be doing with his injury history and looking for a new FA contract. NN62 also joined Switzerland.
Sounds like Moe would have been out for the rest of the playoff's.
Schenn had cracked ribs since early in the St. Louis series. Explains a few things.
Here's a guy I would take a run at. Manitoban, Morgan Geekie, 26, right shot, who can play RW or C. 6'3" 208, 33G 24A.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 20, 2025, 11:03:07 PMHere's a guy I would take a run at. Manitoban, Morgan Geekie, 26, right shot, who can play RW or C. 6'3" 208, 33G 24A.
I like the idea. Decent size and adding 33 G to our lineup is what we really need!! He wouldn't be a huge cap hit...is he a FA??
Can Valardi stay healthy enough to be worth his contract? I'm having my doubts. 1G, 3A, in 9 games.
It wasn't just the playoffs with Appleton. Many times this season he ticked me off. 0G, 7A, in 13 games.
Same with Nino Niederreiter. 4G, 2A in 13 games ain't much and is actually less points than Appleton!
Morgan Barron, 2G, 2A in 13 games. Disappointing.
Iafallo, 1G, 1A, -4 in 13 games. Disappointing.
Chevy's pickups: (Got us a total of 1 Assists and -10 in 24 games total)
Brandon Tanev, 0G, 0A, 0P, -2 in 13 games. Good friggin bye.
Like Schenn, 0G, 1A, -8 in 11 games. Ribs or not, thanks for nothing.
Quote from: J5V on May 21, 2025, 12:29:21 AMCan Valardi stay healthy enough to be worth his contract? I'm having my doubts. 1G, 3A, in 9 games.
It wasn't just the playoffs with Appleton. Many times this season he ticked me off. 0G, 7A, in 13 games.
Same with Nino Niederreiter. 4G, 2A in 13 games ain't much and is actually less points than Appleton!
Morgan Barron, 2G, 2A in 13 games. Disappointing.
Iafallo, 1G, 1A, -4 in 13 games. Disappointing.
Chevy's pickups: (Got us a total of 1 Assists and -10 in 24 games total)
Brandon Tanev, 0G, 0A, 0P, -2 in 13 games. Good friggin bye.
Like Schenn, 0G, 1A, -8 in 11 games. Ribs or not, thanks for nothing.
True, NN62 had fewer points then Apps. But, so did VN7, CP91, and AL17.
The point is, with that severe a lack of production, this team needs some major upgrades if we're going to be serious about winning a cup and building anything close to a dynasty like what it appears Florida has done. Even if Hellebuyck played at Bobrovski's level in the playoffs Florida's level of production far exceeds anything we are capable of, presently constructed. Chevy, and Arneil, have to know this, therefore, let's get it done while this window is open and take advantage of the opportunity. We didn't make a serious move at the trade deadline and we now know what we have. It shouldn't be difficult to see what is required if we're serious about winning the West and giving it a serious, successful attempt at winning a cup or two.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 20, 2025, 07:07:43 PMYour dreaming if you think VN7 is a second line C. Just doesn't have the finish. He not that good in the FO circle, he averages 10 goals a season.
I don't think aards is saying that Vladdy is a 2C, but rather the team clearly thinks he is, at least for the time being. I don't hate the deal we signed him for but given we're already loaded with bottom 6 guys, it seemed strange to prioritize his re-signing and I agree with aards that this kinda signals that he's the plan at 2C until Lambert or someone else steps up/is signed. I think we all hope the latter is what transpires and Vladdy can be a swiss army knife like Perreault whom we can plug and play anywhere in the lineup depending on the need of the day.
Personally I don't think we saw our ceiling. I'm probably seeing things from behind my blue tinted sunglasses (which I literally own btw) but I saw a team face a ton of adversity - overcame lots of it but left lots on the table to work on next year. Playoff goaltending started to come together and we saw the team bounce back and find some ways to win when our backs were against the wall. The biggest disappointment was that we couldn't quite find that extra gear that a team like the Oilers can go to when needed in the playoffs, but they also took years to get the postseason experience to get to that point.
This can be looked at as glass half full or half empty, but we were in no way blown out of the water by Dallas. Looked like that would happen with St. Louis and it didn't, and every one of our games against DAL were very competitive which is either encouraging that we are indeed a big dawg, or disappointing that we couldn't have turned an L into a W here or there. That's what it came down to.
The glaring and most obvious shortcoming is playing a road game = L. We need a psychologist to shake that out of them if we want to go deep next year.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 20, 2025, 06:58:37 PMGiving Namestikov 2 yrs at $6mil says we are not looking for a 2C.
No, it doesn't. Since when is paying a forward $3M AAV a sign that he's locked in at 2C?
What an absurd claim to make.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 20, 2025, 11:03:07 PMHere's a guy I would take a run at. Manitoban, Morgan Geekie, 26, right shot, who can play RW or C. 6'3" 208, 33G 24A.
He has the wrong passport. If he was Danish, or a Finn, or Swede, sure. Even an American. But a Canadian? Local kid? Really?
OK, for your hypothetical, what price, term and where in the lineup?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 21, 2025, 01:16:13 PMNo, it doesn't. Since when is paying a forward $3M AAV a sign that he's locked in at 2C?
What an absurd claim to make.
Yikes. My bad.
I had thought he had signed for 2 years at $6mil per, not $6 total.
Yes. Lets find a 2C...
Tanev is not getting $3.5mil ever again. I'd like him at $1.5, he's a sparkplug and a great 3rd line agitator, 4th line energy guy that can occasionally pot one.
Appleton, the guy has upside, and while $2.16mil isn't a lot, it might be a little too much, again, at $1 - $1.5 he's a good Moose player that can handle a call up. The missed series winner will haunt him here, I'm sure he'll find $2mil elsewhere.
Quote from: theaardvark on May 21, 2025, 03:26:04 PMOK, for your hypothetical, what price, term and where in the lineup?
This is exactly it. What's his ask - money and term - as a pending UFA? He's coming off a career season and I fully expect a bidding war, which would put the Jets at a disadvantage. Not to mention the Bruins are probably keen on keeping him.
He's got 2C potential but I'm not sure if he's a realistic target. The fact he's a Manitoban is immaterial, IMO.
First thing on Cheveldayoff's list should be to re-sign Samberg.
No reason to think Samberg or Vilardi will be tough to extend, its just whether to bridge of long term.
I think they both bridge, betting on themselves and the rising cap. $4.5-$5mil each for 1 or 2.
The Jets exceeded my expectations for this year--Arniel rookie season I thought if we make the playoffs and win the 1st round that would be great. We won the President's trophy and the first round albeit in overtime, and then lost in 2nd round.
Aside from MS55 and KC81, we lack a consistent offensive threat from any of the other lines. When you're on the road, its easy to shut down the other teams #1 line and they have to rely on their depth to score, we have no depth. Our #1 line can run up against anyones line and compete hard if not dominate the play, then we hold our breath for 3-4 minutes until they get out there again. This has got to change.
Just listening to the Leafs media whine about their woes, their second line has Taveres and Neilander, and they score 60 goals between the 2 of them, that's in addition to their #1 line. Our lines 2-4 would be lucky to produce 60 goals in total!! The Leafs are complaining about too many passengers, how many passengers do we have in our lineup 6-8 players?!?!?
We need an impactful physical forward, who can score as well as a dominant centre man who can win draws and score. I'd also be picking up a big, strong reliable defenseman to compliment our offensive gems in JM and NP
Top 3 to sign.
NE27 UFA $6M
GV13 RFA $3.4M
DS54 RFA $1.4M
MB36 RFA $1.3M.
MA22 UFA $2.1M
HF24 UFA $7.75
RK15 RFA $1M
LS5 Signed for 2025/26 @ $2.75M
LS64 Signed for 2025/26 @ $1.25M
Where would Geekie fit in. Well that would all depend on what happens with NE27 and GV13. He's a right shot that can score. Something we are need of. He also the size we need. He's a natural C that can also play RW. Price tag probably $25-30M over 5 years.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2025, 08:34:50 PMWhere would Geekie fit in. Well that would all depend on what happens with NE27 and GV13. He's a right shot that can score. Something we are need of. He also the size we need. He's a natural C that can also play RW. Price tag probably $25-30M over 5 years.
He's a big bodied right handed shot who can score 33 goals a year, we'll find a spot for him!!
Kyle Connor scored 41 this year, Sheif 39, Eihlers 24, Valardi 27, perfetti 18, nameistikov 11, Barron 8, Kupari 5....I think we can easily fit him into our lineup and he'd be a SOLID 2nd liner for sure at wing or centre.
Hearing Chevy had a two hour conversation with NE27 agent, and is working on the KFC extension.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 22, 2025, 04:33:12 PMHearing Chevy had a two hour conversation with NE27 agent, and is working on the KFC extension.
Sounds like Cheveldayoff really wants him to stay: https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-gm-kevin-cheveldayoff-met-with-nikolaj-ehlers-agent-prepared-to-pitch-for-him-to-be-a-jet-for-life/
I just hope the price and term are right for the team should he re-sign here.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 21, 2025, 08:07:44 PMTop 3 to sign.
My thoughts:
NE27 UFA $6M (6yrs - $8.5mil)
GV13 RFA $3.4M (2yrs - $6.5mil)
DS54 RFA $1.4M (2yrs - $6.5mil)
MB36 RFA $1.3M. (2yrs - $1.75mil)
MA22 UFA $2.1M (Pass,replace with a Moose)
HF24 UFA $7.75 (Pass,replace with a Moose)
RK15 RFA $1M (2yrs - $1.5mil)
LS5 Signed for 2025/26 @ $2.75M
LS64 Signed for 2025/26 @ $1.25M
I'd keep Fleury around for $775K or so. That's peanuts for a solid depth piece on the blue line.
An Autopsy of the 2024-25 Winnipeg Jets (https://thefivehohl.substack.com/p/an-autopsy-of-the-2024-25-winnipeg)
Some great info for the rest of you analytics fans out there.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 22, 2025, 05:25:20 PMAn Autopsy of the 2024-25 Winnipeg Jets (https://thefivehohl.substack.com/p/an-autopsy-of-the-2024-25-winnipeg)
Some great info for the rest of you analytics fans out there.
Very interesting and telling info, pretty much quantifies what we've been saying...we need a 2nd line that can score!! Also points out who the weak links are in the lineup, very interesting indeed.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on May 22, 2025, 05:08:52 PMI'd keep Fleury around for $775K or so. That's peanuts for a solid depth piece on the blue line.
If Fleury wants to stay as depth and play on a 2 way, no problem with a min contract. But we have so many prospects that need NHL ice time, even in the pressbox, that the roster is going to be tight, and we've seen the max Fleury is going to provide, IMHO. Not horrible, but not consistant 3rd pairing
Hearing Chevy had a two hour conversation with NE27 agent, and is working on an extension with KFCs team.
Quote from: Pigskin on May 22, 2025, 06:46:25 PMHearing Chevy had a two hour conversation NE27 agent, and is working on an extension with KFCs team.
All good news. We still need to find a way to upgrade the roster if we want different results.
Quote from: Jesse on May 23, 2025, 11:41:49 AMAll good news. We still need to find a way to upgrade the roster if we want different results.
A proven 2C is a must. That's the biggest weakness, IMO.
Lots of FA C this year...
Tavares, Toews, Granlund, Gorde, Dvork, Bennett... any favourites to chase?
Quote from: theaardvark on May 23, 2025, 08:41:17 PMLots of FA C this year...
Tavares, Toews, Granlund, Gorde, Dvork, Bennett... any favourites to chase?
I'd check into John Tavares and see where he's at in terms of contract expectations.
Can you imagine his experience, leadership, goal scoring and faceoff abilities in our lineup?!? I can!!
Not sure he'll leave his hometown Leafs, but you never know if you never ask
Quote from: dd on May 22, 2025, 05:49:18 PMVery interesting and telling info, pretty much quantifies what we've been saying...we need a 2nd line that can score!! Also points out who the weak links are in the lineup, very interesting indeed.
Thanks for posting that very interesting piece of analytics. It supports what my eyes were telling me, especially regarding Schenn, Tanev, and even Stanley. Chevy really dropped the ball at the trade deadline and Arneil supporting Chevy's choices actually hurt the team. I'd love to know what Arneil thinks of these analytics. Here's to hoping he knew what we seem to have confirmed and will make better decisions going forward.
What occurs to me now is that the general consensus seemed to be that we were standing pat for the sake of not upsetting team chemistry when that wasn't true and we actually did hurt the team's chemistry by playing Schenn and Tanev. Interesting and again, my gut tells me that Scott knew that. Here's to hoping that never happens again.
The issues with our goaltending in the playoffs were horrifying to all of us and remains a perplexing anomoly from the game's best player. Here's to hoping that also never happens again.
Quote from: dd on May 23, 2025, 10:58:47 PMI'd check into John Tavares and see where he's at in terms of contract expectations.
Can you imagine his experience, leadership, goal scoring and faceoff abilities in our lineup?!? I can!!
Not sure he'll leave his hometown Leafs, but you never know if you never ask
He would not come to Winnipeg and we wouldn't meet the salary demands.
0% chance.
Quote from: Jesse on May 24, 2025, 05:24:41 PMHe would not come to Winnipeg and we wouldn't meet the salary demands.
0% chance.
You're probably right. Taveres has made his money in the league, over $100 million i've heard said, at this stage in his career, I am thinking he goes out a Leaf, IF the Leafs want to re-sign him, which they'd be fools not to, he's the best 2nd line centre out there on the market, and the actual salary 'demand' will take a backseat to playing at home in front of friends and family where he can spend more quality time with them during the season vs off in LA or Winnipeg, etc
AL17 had successful hip surgery today, and will miss 5-6 months.
Another example, Lowry's hip, of how the NHL warriors can somehow play with and thru terrible discomfort.
Hopefully he and JMo heal well
Winnipeg Jets exclusive signing rights to former prospect Connor Levis have expired (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-exclusive-signing-rights-to-former-prospect-connor-levis-have-expired/)
Disappointing.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 02, 2025, 02:17:22 PMWinnipeg Jets exclusive signing rights to former prospect Connor Levis have expired (https://illegalcurve.com/winnipeg-jets-exclusive-signing-rights-to-former-prospect-connor-levis-have-expired/)
Disappointing.
Losing a 7th rounder disappointing?
I would think spending an ELC amount on one who was heading to college would be more disappointing...
Quote from: theaardvark on June 02, 2025, 04:59:37 PMLosing a 7th rounder disappointing?
This essentially amounts to a wasted pick; it's unfortunate this played out the way it did.
It's disappointing but nobody's going to lose sleep over this - myself included.
F Kupari signs in Switzerland: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-pending-rfa-rasmus-kupari-signs-two-yea-deal-with-switzerland-s-hc-lugano-1.2316085
I fully expected he'd re-sign here. Blah.
OK, do we retain any of his RFA status? If he comes back to the NHL, do we still have rights? Or is this the end of things? Is there a suspended list or something that retains any rights? (EDIT: The Jets are expected to extend a qualifying offer Kupari's way, retaining his rights as an NHL player should he consider coming back to North America.)
Not saying this is a huge loss, but he was a great depth piece and good in the circle and has upside.
Guessing the Swiss league is a little more lucrative that a RFA deal. And a lot closer to home.
Geez, was hoping Kupari could have a great camp and get back onto the roster. Powerful skater and really good on the dot
Really unexpected move, IMO. It is nice the Jets retain his NHL rights, though.
Looks like he's going to get a lot of chance to play in the Swiss league, the coach seems very hyped on him.
Getting a 25 year old first rounder with NHL time is probably a big get over there.
Two free years of development will be a nice bonus if he takes his level up some.
Quote from: Jockitch on June 03, 2025, 05:48:06 PMGeez, was hoping Kupari could have a great camp and get back onto the roster. Powerful skater and really good on the dot
I think he felt a little disrespected in the playoffs.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 03, 2025, 01:13:48 PMF Kupari signs in Switzerland: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-pending-rfa-rasmus-kupari-signs-two-yea-deal-with-switzerland-s-hc-lugano-1.2316085
I fully expected he'd re-sign here. Blah.
Yeah, sucks man. :-(
Quote from: Pigskin on June 03, 2025, 07:39:29 PMI think he felt a little disrespected in the playoffs.
I wonder if he was ever 100% healthy after that concussion. It's odd he didn't play a single playoff game.
When the trade happened, I hoped he'd find his game here, but he never even earned his way as a regular 4th liner.
We have prospects we need to make room for, this is really meh for me.
Kupari has the size and the speed, he needs to find his offence. 8 points in 59 games last season, just not good enough.
Offseason and has Chevy and Arniel pinpointed the potential 2nd line center within the organization ???
Yager, Lambert might not be ready. Vilardi could be an answer at the dot over Namestnikov (who surely isn't the answer).
Anyone else see the image circulating online of Hellebuyck posing with the Vezina and the Hart Trophies? Big if true.
It also sounds like Arniel finished second in Jack Adams Trophy voting.
Toews, wonder if he has a cabin on his Mb lake, would look fine in our TC. If he signed the seats at TC would be full
Nostalgia aside, he could certainly mentor on how to approach and win the better portion of faceoffs.
Watched a variety of CHL playoffs and though he didn't have jump up and dance offensive numbers this season, me thinks Jacob Julien, played with Memorial Cup champs London Knights, would be a solid power forward in the near future in our colours
Hellebuyck wins the Vezina and the Hart Trophies (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-connor-hellebuyck-wins-vezina-and-hart-trophies-1.2320714)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 13, 2025, 01:33:55 PMHellebuyck wins the Vezina and the Hart Trophies (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/winnipeg-jets-connor-hellebuyck-wins-vezina-and-hart-trophies-1.2320714)
It's a nice day. Well deserved.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 13, 2025, 03:49:31 PMIt's a nice day. Well deserved.
He ran away with the voting points, which is really surprising. I expected a tighter race with Draisaitl.
Now it's time to go get that championship.
I'm really hoping to see Jonathan Toews in a Jets uniform. Please get this done, Chevy.
If you haven't watched this already, watch it. And if you have, watch it again.
We should sign this Hellbuyck guy long term. Vezina and Hart? Amazing.
Wow! Imagine that! Good for you, Helle! Fantastic accomplishment.
Surprised to see these stats. NE27 has never had a 30 goal or a 40 assist season.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 16, 2025, 06:26:20 AMSurprised to see these stats. NE27 has never had a 30 goal or a 40 assist season.
Not that surprising he's always injured
Does someone give Ehlers more than $8mil a year? If they do, then I can see him going elsewhere.
I'd be very happy with 6 at $7.5. He's exciting to watch, and finally had some post season stats, but staying healthy and consistently scoring does not seem to be a forte. Or expectation.
Love to have him hear, but we have too many other guys to sign, and you can't pay him the same or more than Helle or Scheif, can you.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 16, 2025, 05:50:17 PMDoes someone give Ehlers more than $8mil a year? If they do, then I can see him going elsewhere.
I'd be very happy with 6 at $7.5. He's exciting to watch, and finally had some post season stats, but staying healthy and consistently scoring does not seem to be a forte. Or expectation.
Love to have him hear, but we have too many other guys to sign, and you can't pay him the same or more than Helle or Scheif, can you.
I think he believes he's worth more then $8M. Someone will probably throw some big money at him.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ehlers get $8-9M on July 1. There will probably be a few teams vying for him.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 18, 2025, 01:16:18 PMI wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ehlers get $8-9M on July 1. There will probably be a few teams vying for him.
Is he a top line winger? On a bunch of teams he would be. I can see one of those offering more than we can.
Conner is getting $10+, maybe $11 for 8 years, for sure. Giving Ehlers more than $8 means having too much of your cap in one position.
And he's had one complete season in the last seven. He is averaging 62 games a season over that span. So $7.5 would actually be more like $10 based on games played.
He's had a 29 goal season and a 39 assist season, and this was the first year he did anything in the playoffs.
Pragmatic Chevy will make an offer, but there is no doubt there is a team that wants him more.
I really, really want him on the team, I just can't see a way we make it happen, unless he wants to be here. And much as the team is family, I've never seen Ehlers ice fishing with the boys, or being involved other than Fortnite with Laine. So that card doesn't seem to play.
Sadly, we will miss him. But its part of hockey.
Now, lets get Toews signed.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 18, 2025, 03:06:44 PMIs he a top line winger?
Not necessarily. He is undoubtedly a top 6 winger, though.
And with that in mind - and the upcoming free agent market (https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/_/year/2025/position/lw/type/ufa) and increasing cap - I fully expect offers in $8-9M AAV range even with his injury troubles.
I'm sure the Jets will make him an offer. I just don't see him taking it.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 18, 2025, 04:10:53 PMNot necessarily. He is undoubtedly a top 6 winger, though.
And with that in mind - and the upcoming free agent market (https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/_/year/2025/position/lw/type/ufa) and increasing cap - I fully expect offers in $8-9M AAV range even with his injury troubles.
I'm sure the Jets will make him an offer. I just don't see him taking it.
If you pay a top 4 Dman 7 mil, is a top 6 winger worth more? Again, do you lose a player of his calibre for $1mil?
If $7.5 makes sense, can you make $8.5 work? Can you pay him the same as Helle and Scheiff?
I know each contract should be signed in a vacuum, regardless what other players on the team signed for, but can you?
I'd hate to lose him for $1 mil ($6-7 mil over the contract), but I guess it comes down to how does the money saved not signing him get spent, and does the organization have someone that can step in, either right away, or soon.
Or is there a FA we can land for a year or two at $5 or $6 mil to play 2LW while we develop the next guy?
With Valardi, Samburg and Barron also needing deals this year, I can see signing those three coming ahead of signing one Ehlers, and his cap hit would make extensions rather than bridges possibly happen.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 18, 2025, 05:58:33 PMIf you pay a top 4 Dman 7 mil, is a top 6 winger worth more? Again, do you lose a player of his calibre for $1mil?
If $7.5 makes sense, can you make $8.5 work? Can you pay him the same as Helle and Scheiff?
I know each contract should be signed in a vacuum, regardless what other players on the team signed for, but can you?
I'm not a GM in the NHL, so those questions will probably go unanswered on here.
I also don't agree with the contract signed in a vacuum part. I think any GM worth his salt takes into considering the totality of things when it comes to contract management vis a vis the salary cap, roster implications, and player retention.
We all know how Cheveldayoff operates; this situation won't be any different, IMO. I'm sure he has already crunched the numbers, anyway, so we're stuck waiting to see how it plays out on July 1.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 18, 2025, 06:34:54 PMI'm not a GM in the NHL, so those questions will probably go unanswered on here.
I also don't agree with the contract signed in a vacuum part. I think any GM worth his salt takes into considering the totality of things when it comes to contract management vis a vis the salary cap, roster implications, and player retention.
We all know how Cheveldayoff operates; this situation won't be any different, IMO. I'm sure he has already crunched the numbers, anyway, so we're stuck waiting to see how it plays out on July 1.
By signed in a vacuum, I mean that just because player A got $8.5 million doesn't mean Player B can't gt $9 million.
We've seen you can't "set the payscale standard" in a vacuum. There's always going to be a team that overvalues someone, and a player that gives a "hometown" or "love my bros" team discount. And the numbers don't always add up or make sense.
With 31 teams looking at your players, you have to spend and defend the ones you really need. I think extending our RFA's takes precedent over everything right now. And leaving enough in the cap to tie up Conner long term. Maybe all at the same time.
Could you imagine signing all four of Connor, Samburg, Vilardi and Barron to 6-7 or even 8 year deals before FA starts?
Run Iafallo with Namestikov and Perfetti as your #2 line?
Quote from: theaardvark on June 18, 2025, 07:56:06 PMRun Iafallo with Namestikov and Perfetti as your #2 line?
I sure hope not. We saw a similar plan play out pretty badly just recently.
Namestnikov isn't the answer at 2C. That position has to be upgraded.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 18, 2025, 08:00:59 PMI sure hope not. We saw a similar plan play out pretty badly just recently.
Namestnikov isn't the answer at 2C. That position has to be upgraded.
I agree.
Where would Toews slot in? Could Lowry move up to 2nd line C?
Do we have any other prospect to come up to there? Does Perfetti become our 2C?
Could Marco Rossi be an option ?
https://thehockeywriters.com/jets-should-target-marco-rossi-trade/
Just read a short piece that Freedman stated
Johnathon Toews has agreed to sign with our Jets.
Apparently nothing gets disclosed till July 1st but
the club announced he has agreed to a contract
TC crowds will be big and excited
Toews to join Jets on bonus-heavy deal worth up to $7M (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/jonathan-toews-to-sign-with-winnipeg-jets-on-july-1-resuming-nhl-career-after-two-years-away-1.2324435)
Love this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gt5QFBHbUAAVgq-?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 20, 2025, 04:40:36 PMToews to join Jets on bonus-heavy deal worth up to $7M (https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/jonathan-toews-to-sign-with-winnipeg-jets-on-july-1-resuming-nhl-career-after-two-years-away-1.2324435)
Love this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gt5QFBHbUAAVgq-?format=jpg&name=small)
Like it, and it's only a one year deal.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 20, 2025, 05:16:40 PMLike it, and it's only a one year deal.
Reasonable base with heavy incentives. Makes the most sense, IMO.
How many Toews jerseys get sold this summer? That's the real question.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 18, 2025, 09:33:35 PMWhere would Toews slot in? Could Lowry move up to 2nd line C?
Do we have any other prospect to come up to there? Does Perfetti become our 2C?
Who knows? Could be #3, or #2. Or maybe goodbye, thanks for trying. It all depends on what he can get out of his body, and how much he can play. Even he doesn't know. I'm really glad he chose Winnipeg though to give it a try. This is going to be an exciting off-season and training camp. Great move by the Jets.
It is possible to revive your career and produce at an advanced age. We need look no further than the old WHA Winnipeg Jets with Bobby Hull.
Lowry also isn't a 2nd. line C. Love AL17, but he doesn't have enough finish to his game.
Well, at up to $7 mil a year, with a chunk guaranteed, I don't think there's a "cut after camp" option. Worst case he's 4th line C, PK and FO guy. Best case he jumps between Perfetti and Namestikov and makes a solid 2nd line.
Assuming that this deal means Ehlers is all but gone.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 20, 2025, 07:05:53 PMWell, at up to $7 mil a year, with a chunk guaranteed, I don't think there's a "cut after camp" option. Worst case he's 4th line C, PK and FO guy. Best case he jumps between Perfetti and Namestikov and makes a solid 2nd line.
Assuming that this deal means Ehlers is all but gone.
He's guaranteed $2M. Not really worried about that. But, again if Namestikov is on on our 2nd. it will be rinse and repeat last season. VN7 is not a top 6 forward.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 20, 2025, 07:37:16 PMHe's guaranteed $2M. Not really worried about that. But, again if Namestikov is on on our 2nd. it will be rinse and repeat last season. VN7 is not a top 6 forward.
Probably Perfetti/Toews/Iafalo...
Namestikov might be C# to start the year depending on Lowry's rehab.
Barron needs to be resigned and remain the C4
Is Chevy on holidays. Jets need to make some signings.
Sounds like Cody Glass will not get a qualifier, was he really a talent worthy of a 6th overall pick? DO we want someone else because they are local? Does he have any ceiling left?
Ehlers has informed the Jets he will test market on July 1st (https://illegalcurve.com/elliotte-friedman-nikolaj-ehlers-has-informed-the-winnipeg-jets-he-will-test-market-on-july-1st/)
Hardly surprising news. He's as good as gone, IMO.
E. Friedman is linking our team to Boeser
Wouldn't mind as we really need a rt shot pro for 2nd line
So will Chevy realize that a couple of his first round picks
in Stanley and Heinola have not worked out.
Can he move one or both today for a mid rd spot or two
Jets sign Fleury to a two year extension for just under $1M per season.
I feel like this team is close but to be better than a team like the Florida Panthers are going to need a couple of major signings. Toews *may* be one of those signings and the Jets must have seen enough from him to want to take the chance. I still feel like we need something more, something big, just not sure what that is yet. Maybe prying a stud defenseman from somewhere as Luke Schenn wasn't that signing last season. Retaining Ehlers would be nice but not at a ridiculous price and still wouldn't be enough, IMO.
More work to do Chevy. Make it happen!
Yes to above
With Friedman, at the Draft, reporting that Leafs and Vegas are talking of a trade and sign/rights involving Marner
This would mean Vegas needs to move out contract(s)
Maybe Chevy helps by trying for Hertl at under $7.M aav.
On the UFA front, like to see Dvorak in a Jet uni
Quote from: Jockitch on June 28, 2025, 08:44:24 PMOn the UFA front, like to see Dvorak in a Jet uni
Not me. Good FO man, but does put up much offence. He also has a long history of injuries.
Interesting draft, got some value with the third pick, 2D, 1C, 2RW... all "skilled and can skate", which is important, I guess...
To date our roster has 8 Dmen signed which doesn't include an expected contract for Samberg. Nor does it account for
the young E. Salomonsson who has terrific upside.
Looks shaky for Heinola and Stanley again plus does Chevy bother to sign 27 yr old, UFA, Cohglan who I thought was a good pro
Also does Chevy let Schenn go to waivers once the TC gets started
If Ehlers is gone, does that possibly, if he is back from his injury, clear the way for Chibrikov on the 2nd line
Quote from: Jockitch on June 30, 2025, 06:42:16 PMTo date our roster has 8 Dmen signed which doesn't include an expected contract for Samberg. Nor does it account for
the young E. Salomonsson who has terrific upside.
Looks shaky for Heinola and Stanley again plus does Chevy bother to sign 27 yr old, UFA, Cohglan who I thought was a good pro
Also does Chevy let Schenn go to waivers once the TC gets started
If Ehlers is gone, does that possibly, if he is back from his injury, clear the way for Chibrikov on the 2nd line
Signing Fleury was a headscratcher for me, he's definitely a great part to have on a min contract just in case, but that does leave Schenn, Heinola and Stanley in limbo... not sure if they get scooped on waivers or not, or whether they can be traded for picks or future considerations, but we do have a log jam at bottom 7 D. Coughlan does not get an offer, thank you for your service.
I think it is time for Sal and Chib to get onto the NHL ice.
So Jets have $23.5 M. in Cap Space but need 4-5 more signed to get to 22 or 23 on their roster.
Presently 8 are Dmen signed. So if they get contracts done for Samberg, Vilardi and Ehlers, or a good replacement they may use
up 20-21 M of that towards the $95.5 Cap ceiling
So I believe Chevy has to hope and plan for a Barlow, Lambert
or Chibrikov to make the team at minimum.
Does Barron get signed or even Appleton ?
Chevy signs 2 head scratcher forwards in T. Pearson and
C. Koepke for $1.M each
Heard on TSN Frenzy show that Ehlers started the day by saying he would not sign anywhere today and just bout 10 minutes ago that he, personally, not his agent, is on the phone with teams trying to sign him ...... now that is sounding odd
Still crossing fingers that he stays
So, we have a quorum on min wage players that can slot in bottom 3 and bottom pair for 5 min a night...
How much did Boeser take as a discount not to come here? Similar numbers to Ehlers, 8 years at $7.25 mil.
Does this change the market for Ehlers?
Of course I don't know what has been offered to Samberg,
Barron nor to Vilardi. With $19.M left according to PuckPedia my guess, if the 3 sign, it uses $16.M.
That would give us 14 forwards listed, including injured Lowry, on our roster. Teams usually carry 13.
On defence, Sam's signing would give us 8 dmen, which does not
Include Heinola.
Obviously no room for Ehlers, sob sob, and I don't expect any rookie to be in our lineup.
Oddity: if above forwards number 14 including Lowry, only 2 are
right handed shots. Defence will be an equal split
Can't say what Chevy has done so far has impressed me.
Plenty of low risk moves but nothing that really jumps off the page. Another pretty standard free agency day for the Jets, IMO.
Toews is clearly the most significant move, even if we knew before July 1. I do like the additions of Pearson and Nyquist; I'm just wondering where they slot in on this roster.
More importantly, what's the progress on contracts for Barron, Samberg, and Vilardi?
Some reports indicating NE27 has narrowed to Carolina or Washington??
Quote from: Pigskin on July 03, 2025, 07:06:23 PMSome reports indicating NE27 has narrowed to Carolina or Washington??
Canes. Bye, Fly.
Ciao NE27, Fly, truly will miss you but very pleased that
it was the Canes who met your "wants"
Well crap. Oh well. Best of luck Nikolaj!
At $8.5M per a little to rich for the Jets. Now, he will be much closer to his sister.
At $8.5M per a little to rich for the Jets. Now, he will be much closer to his sister.
Sounds like it wasn't that the Canes offered more than us $ wise, but assured him he'd get more ice time...
Whatever, would have been nice to retain him, but now we have cap space for others.
How does a team guarantee ice time? Is it written in the contract or trust me bro?
Pretty sure McGroarty was "assured" he would get ice time with the Pens and I guess he did...down the highway in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. Probably hung out with Dwight.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 03, 2025, 08:11:08 PMAt $8.5M per a little to rich for the Jets. Now, he will be much closer to his sister.
I'd love to know what the Jets did offer, considering the whole "Jet for life (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-hopes-to-make-nikolaj-ehlers-jet-for-life)" narrative that surfaced shortly after their second round loss to the Stars.
I think $8.5M AAV is an overpay based on his age, production, injuries, etc., but I'm not surprised he got that amount.
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 04, 2025, 01:19:02 PMHow does a team guarantee ice time? Is it written in the contract or trust me bro?
There's no guarantees like that written into contracts. And it isn't like Ehlers was ever supplanting Connor on the top line wing, anyway.
It'd be kinda funny if Ehlers ends up playing similar minutes on the Canes.
Sites have him on the top line over Svechnikov...
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/carolina-hurricanes/line-combinations
https://puckpedia.com/lineups/carolina-hurricanes
So that's one way of getting more ice time.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 04, 2025, 06:12:39 PMSites have him on the top line over Svechnikov...
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/carolina-hurricanes/line-combinations
https://puckpedia.com/lineups/carolina-hurricanes
So that's one way of getting more ice time.
Is that really saying much? Svechnikov hasn't established himself as a legitimate 1W - not yet.
Ehlers > Svechnikov (not a tall task for Ehlers to supplant him)
But remember:
Connor > Ehlers (Connor is a bonafide 1W)
Loved Ehlers when he was here but he's the enemy now.
Word is that it wasn't money at all, Chevy was willing to offer more than Ehlers got, either $ or term, but he just needed a change of scenery and wanted more playing time.
Looks like he will get that... especially if he outperforms Svetch
Quote from: blue_or_die on July 04, 2025, 01:19:02 PMHow does a team guarantee ice time? Is it written in the contract or trust me bro?
Pretty sure McGroarty was "assured" he would get ice time with the Pens and I guess he did...down the highway in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. Probably hung out with Dwight.
In the 3 day window when everyone was waiting for Ehlers to make a decision, he was talking to the teams' coaches and hearing their plans for him.
Nothing is guaranteed once you hit the ice, he obviously has to succeed in the role to keep it. But when he's talking to Arniel, the plan will be to keep on keeping on, while other coaches may have bigger roles in mind.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 04, 2025, 02:33:59 PMI'd love to know what the Jets did offer, considering the whole "Jet for life (https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-hopes-to-make-nikolaj-ehlers-jet-for-life)" narrative that surfaced shortly after their second round loss to the Stars.
I think $8.5M AAV is an overpay based on his age, production, injuries, etc., but I'm not surprised he got that amount.
When we signed him in 2018, his contract represented 7.5% of the cap.
His new contract represents 9.6% of the cap.
It seems like a reasonable raise but, that said, Ehlers never became more than the player we signed in 2018. If anything, he regressed at times.
It sounds like Ehlers was looking for a fresh start and an opportunity to challenge himself (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/hurricanes-nikolaj-ehlers-makes-emotional-choice-by-leaving-jets/).
I think there's no doubt he gets a better opportunity with the Canes to try and establish himself as a top winger in this league.
One thing's for sure: I'll be circling both Jets games vs. the Canes on my calendar this upcoming season - and hope to make it to the game here in Winnipeg.
3 Jets going to arbitration. DS54, GV13, and MB36.
I wouldn't mind trying to land Roslovic at the right price. RW who has speed and can score.
Winnipeg, I Love You (https://www.nhl.com/jets/news/to-winnipeg-from-fly)
A nice little write-up from Fly.
I have always been a fan of Ehlers ability, but always wondered about why he did not produce more, especially in the playoffs.
My buddy has always contended it was because he couldn't gel with anyone. Whether they put him on the top or second line, there was never a "fit".
Ehlers has complained at his minutes, and some have suggested that with more minutes, he would produce more, but both sides of that argument have been made.
One observation, though.
One of the biggest complaints about Chevy over the years has been the inability to get a true 2nd line C. That's not a debate, other than a few months where we rented one, its been a sore spot.
Ehlers has mostly been used as our 2nd line LW (behind KC81). Its tough to gel with a line when there is no C. He had some good chemistry with Perfetti in the limited time they were together, but I can see why he wanted a new start elsewhere.
He will get a chance at the minutes he wants and the linemates at his level.
I wish him luck, except when he plays us, of course. I can see him turning into a top player, well worth the contract they rewarded him with.
Over the past 3 seasons, Ehlers was 16th amongst all forwards in point production per 60 minutes 5 v 5.
He was 199th in ice time.
In the Dallas series, he was the 9th leading forward in ice time, using him as a third line player.
Coaches always claimed he was better with reduced minutes. He clearly feels differently. That's all.
Ehlers was given ample opportunity during his decade with this team - on both the first and second lines, as well as the top PP unit.
Bryan Little was a true 2C during his career. Paul Stastny was a true 2C when he was here - both times. Pierre-Luc Dubois was a true 2C. It is absolutely open for debate and it was absolutely more than a few months of rentals.
Let's avoid revisionist history.
Will Chevy reach agreements, before they get to the arbitration table, with Barron, Vilardi and Samberg
All 3 offer special skills for our Jets
My hope is Barron gets no more than $2.5M for 3 years
Vilardi gets a nice vote of confidence with $7.5M
Banking on Samberg for no more than $5.25M
The terms for Samberg and Vilardi might be difficult but
no doubt Chevy will press for time into their UFA years
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/5-teams-looking-to-make-trades-after-quiet-nhl-free-agency/ (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/5-teams-looking-to-make-trades-after-quiet-nhl-free-agency/)
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Winnipeg had less of a say in the shake-up that came this off-season, the Jets losing star winger Nikolaj Ehlers, who simply wanted a fresh start elsewhere. The great Dane benefitted most from the thin free-agency market, taking time to weigh his options before inking a $51-million deal with the Carolina Hurricanes.
The Jets find themselves in an interesting spot. They head into 2025-26 coming off a dominant regular season that saw them lead wire to wire and win the Presidents' Trophy by the year's end. Then came a disappointing post-season, and a Round 2 exit. In each of the past three years, Winnipeg has been bounced from the playoffs in early rounds by a Western Conference behemoth: Vegas in 2023, Colorado in 2024, Dallas in 2025.
Now, they're tasked with finding progress while navigating the loss of one of their most prolific scorers, Ehlers having finished third among all Jets forwards with 24 goals and 63 points last season.
The club lost two other wingers as well, as Mason Appleton signed in Detroit and Brandon Tanev signed in Utah. Making matters worse, Winnipeg will start the season without Adam Lowry, the captain still recovering from a hip surgery that will likely keep him out of the lineup through the early months of the campaign.
As pointed out by the 32 Thoughts duo, the issue in Winnipeg is just how crucial a strong start was to the team's sterling 2024-25 season — progress aside, the Jets no doubt don't want to start on the wrong foot and wind up taking a step back next year. But it seems they'll open 2025-26 as a notably different group up front.
GM Kevin Cheveldayoff has added some new names to the forward corps already — Jonathan Toews will make a run at an NHL return in his hometown, while the Jets also added Gustav Nyquist, Tanner Pearson and a number of other free-agent depth forwards.
The collection of additions could mean they're less likely to wade into the trade market. But the Jets have cap space to work with, given they'd planned to pay Ehlers — if they want to find a meaningful step forward next season, and a path to finally getting by their conference's best, more help may still be needed up front to replace the star winger's contributions.
One potential option who might just be available via trade, according to the 32 Thoughts crew, and could help shore up Winnipeg's centre depth: 20-goal, 60-point pivot Nick Schmaltz, who has a year left at $5.85 million.
As always, we will leave this thread up until the new training camp and retire it at that point.