Hopefully Collaros is fine and will play. Ditto for Bryant after having the LD game off.
Bighill is doubtful IMO even if the injury is not serious.
Riders appear to have lost 2 OL. I think it was fry that had his arm in a sling at the end of the game.
Godber hurt an ankle which usually means at least some time off. Not sure what their options are for this week.
Either team have additional injuries?
Hard to say for sure. Obviously some big injuries on both sides. Don't expect either coache to say much before Friday's depth charts come out. Another huge game on Saturday.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 02, 2024, 04:22:52 PMHard to say for sure. Obviously some big injuries on both sides. Don't expect either coache to say much before Friday's depth charts come out. Another huge game on Saturday.
Sure is. Riders have dropped from first to third in the West, one point back of us and BC. Lots to be determined yet. BC has Montreal next week and I don't see BC winning that one. We have the Banjo Bowl. Huge opportunity to potentially open a 3 point spread and put some distance between us and the Riders and Lions.
I hope Collaros is back because Strev is NOT the answer at QB. If he's not would like to see Wilson get some reps. He throws a nice ball. I know y'all like Strev but he does not. Admit it please.
I hope SB is back. We need him.
Brayan and Collaros will be back, bomber win bb, take over first place, things working out the way we had hoped after slow start
Quote from: dd on September 02, 2024, 05:42:53 PMBrayan and Collaros will be back, bomber win bb, take over first place, things working out the way we had hoped after slow start
I have good news for you... We have already done this! Go Blue!
Quote from: tlf on September 02, 2024, 05:46:08 PMI have good news for you... We have already done this! Go Blue!
We lose the BB, riders are in first place. We beat them and we have a 3 point lead hence the term 'take over' first place
Quote from: tlf on September 02, 2024, 05:12:22 PMI hope Collaros is back because Strev is NOT the answer at QB. If he's not would like to see Wilson get some reps. He throws a nice ball. I know y'all like Strev but he does not. Admit it please.
I hope SB is back. We need him.
I like Wilson but disagree all regarding our backup QBs.
Quote from: dd on September 02, 2024, 06:10:22 PMWe lose the BB, riders are in first place. We beat them and we have a 3 point lead hence the term 'take over' first place
It's a 4 point game. It would go a long way in promising a home play off game. Might even put a strong grip on 1st place.
We want a Bombers win and a Lions loss. That would require the Lions to win 2 more games in the last 5 to pass us in the standings due to series win by Bombers. Clearly that would be the same issue for the Riders if we win Banjo Bowl.
Things would look pretty good.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 02, 2024, 03:30:50 PMRiders appear to have lost 2 OL. I think it was fry that had his arm in a sling at the end of the game.
Riderfans said Godber (C) returned later in the game. His problem didn't look too bad. I haven't confirmed yet.
Fry is probably out 4-8 weeks IMHO.
I feel SSK's pain re OL injuries. Both of our teams have had horrible luck this season. However, it may be worse for SSK because they spent a lot more money in FA on OL trying to get better, only to see it evaporate.
Dustin and Suitor will be calling the Banjo Bowl.
Quote from: gobombersgo on September 03, 2024, 12:54:44 AMDustin and Suitor will be calling the Banjo Bowl.
Thanks for the heads-up! Will be listening to CJOB and watching TSN.
Quote from: J5V on September 03, 2024, 12:56:00 AMThanks for the heads-up! Will be listening to CJOB and watching TSN.
Not on TSN. Only CTV
Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 03, 2024, 01:00:32 AMNot on TSN. Only CTV
So, I had a look and there is no pregame shows on Saturday on either TSN or CTV.
As well, the Toronto vs Ottawa game starts at noon Wpg time on TSN so it will over lap the Bomber game.
The Edmonton vs Calgary game starts at 6pm Wpg time.
Quote from: gobombersgo on September 03, 2024, 01:19:16 AMAs well, the Toronto vs Ottawa game starts at noon Wpg time on TSN so it will over lap the Bomber game.
Argh. I really hate overlapped schedules. Complicates the PVR setups, and means I miss some on the far superior comp PVR.
And no pre-game for BB is really dumb marketing. That would probably be one of the most-watched pre-game shows of the reg season.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 03, 2024, 12:24:48 AMRiderfans said Godber (C) returned later in the game. His problem didn't look too bad. I haven't confirmed yet.
Fry is probably out 4-8 weeks IMHO.
I feel SSK's pain re OL injuries. Both of our teams have had horrible luck this season. However, it may be worse for SSK because they spent a lot more money in FA on OL trying to get better, only to see it evaporate.
Godber never returned. Shown on TV several times with the shoulder pads off.
I can not believe they are trying to wedge 3 games in on a Saturday. Especially one while I am going to be tailgating.
Quote from: jdrattops on September 03, 2024, 01:33:41 PMGodber never returned. Shown on TV several times with the shoulder pads off.
I wouldn't expect Godber to be able to play this week. Fry is definitely out based on his arm in a sling.
It's unfortunate when any player gets injured. We probably lost Bighill for this game or longer. Overall we gain the advantage with the Riders losing 2 OL.
As mentioned we know this is a 4 point game at home and we should be armed and ready to go to war.
I am hoping we make some adjustments to our defense for this game
- key to limiting Harris is pressure and making him uncomfortable 3 man pressure plays into his comfort zone. Adding Adams would help ( recievers had time to do double moves to get open too.
- safety was an issue, each time Hallet was in they went deep and with little dline pressure Harris exploited this
Disguising any blitzes is key as Harris has such a quick release and recognition that its tough to do regularly, need 4 man pressure to get to him
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2024, 02:55:22 PMI wouldn't expect Godber to be able to play this week. Fry is definitely out based on his arm in a sling.
It's unfortunate when any player gets injured. We probably lost Bighill for this game or longer. Overall we gain the advantage with the Riders losing 2 OL.
As mentioned we know this is a 4 point game at home and we should be armed and ready to go to war.
The Riders PR is pretty shaky for OL... If they are down 2 OL from the 6 they dress, one of these has to start, and at least one has to back up... Willie and Haba gonna feast on the stunts. Harris will be under seige, will be interesting to see how many clean hits he can take.
3 Man pressure may be all we need...
65 Johnson, Daniel N 6'5 307 25 Purdue
62 Jones, Nick A 6'3 300 23 Mississippi State
59 Noll, Braydon N 6'6 297 26 Wilfrid Laurier University
I think we all agree that if Bighill is out this week then Adams comes back on the roster. There are some variations already on the AR to replace Bighill in different defensive formations. However it is most likely Gauthier getting the bulk of the reps at MLB.
I haven't seen what Weitz is doing but I could potentially see a swap to bring back Karamoko as the 2nd global.
It's a short practice week so we won't see much change that isn't really necessary.
That said, I continue to wonder why we aren't throwing to Johnson. 2 attempts and 2 receptions in the last 3 games for 21 yards. Neither Johnson or Whitehead had any looks on the weekend.
Whitehead is not the Whitehead of the past but he's pretty reliable. Is he really a better option than Case or Smith as a returner?
If they don't plan to use Whitehead as a receiver, then that's where the question lies. I'd also throw in whether Wheatfall is a better option than Johnson?
Due to injuries on our OL, Johnson's primary role may be blocking. Woli is back and both he and Clercius block well so is he still the best option?
I like the idea of somebody like Wheatfall as a speed / deep ball choice. Johnson is only getting very short passes with little YAC. That brings up the LB's closer to LOS which is not a good thing.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2024, 05:21:29 PMI think we all agree that if Bighill is out this week then Adams comes back on the roster. There are some variations already on the AR to replace Bighill in different defensive formations. However it is most likely Gauthier getting the bulk of the reps at MLB.
I haven't seen what Weitz is doing but I could potentially see a swap to bring back Karamoko as the 2nd global.
It's a short practice week so we won't see much change that isn't really necessary.
That said, I continue to wonder why we aren't throwing to Johnson. 2 attempts and 2 receptions in the last 3 games for 21 yards. Neither Johnson or Whitehead had any looks on the weekend.
Whitehead is not the Whitehead of the past but he's pretty reliable. Is he really a better option than Case or Smith as a returner?
If they don't plan to use Whitehead as a receiver, then that's where the question lies. I'd also throw in whether Wheatfall is a better option than Johnson?
Due to injuries on our OL, Johnson's primary role may be blocking. Woli is back and both he and Clercius block well so is he still the best option?
I like the idea of somebody like Wheatfall as a speed / deep ball choice. Johnson is only getting very short passes with little YAC. That brings up the LB's closer to LOS which is not a good thing.
Wilson and Demski are the best deep ball threats, if Zach could hit them in stride instead of holding them up with his passes they'd be deadly.
Quote from: jayrock on September 03, 2024, 01:36:52 PMI can not believe they are trying to wedge 3 games in on a Saturday. Especially one while I am going to be tailgating.
Not only wedge three games, but wedge ALL of them into the daytime window.
Looks like the boys will back on the field tomorrow. We will get an update on our injuries.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 03, 2024, 03:10:37 PMThe Riders PR is pretty shaky for OL... If they are down 2 OL from the 6 they dress, one of these has to start, and at least one has to back up... Willie and Haba gonna feast on the stunts. Harris will be under seige, will be interesting to see how many clean hits he can take.
3 Man pressure may be all we need...
65 Johnson, Daniel N 6'5 307 25 Purdue
62 Jones, Nick A 6'3 300 23 Mississippi State
59 Noll, Braydon N 6'6 297 26 Wilfrid Laurier University
They had a D lineman playing o line and we hardly feasted. We didn't even snack..barely but a wafer was eaten. Our own D line is kinda meh.
Please NOT Suitor......Heck I'd take Kate and a broken watermelon to call the game over Suitor.....
Quote from: The Zipp on September 03, 2024, 05:55:18 PMThey had a D lineman playing o line and we hardly feasted. We didn't even snack..barely but a wafer was eaten. Our own D line is kinda meh.
Not the same since losing Jeffcoat. I have high hopes for Garbutt, though.
Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on September 03, 2024, 06:51:26 PMPlease NOT Suitor......Heck I'd take Kate and a broken watermelon to call the game over Suitor.....
Suitor NOT calling a Rider game? Dream on.
Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on September 03, 2024, 06:51:26 PMPlease NOT Suitor......Heck I'd take Kate and a broken watermelon to call the game over Suitor.....
Yes Suitor is terrible. But, lucky it's in Winnipeg and everyone attending the game won't have to silence to him.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 03, 2024, 05:37:22 PMNot only wedge three games, but wedge ALL of them into the daytime window.
Yeah, woulda been nice if it was: eastern game at 12p (1p EST); our game at 3:30p (ensure no overlap + give us an extra half hour to pregame ;)); west coast game at 9p (gives us all time to get off campus, high five after the win, get some dinner, then chill in the evening).
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 03, 2024, 07:06:19 PMNot the same since losing Jeffcoat. I have high hopes for Garbutt, though.
I keep hoping Garbutt or Haba will step up and out right take this spot.
Garbutt: 6 games, 9 DTS, 1 Sack.
Haba: 5 games, 4 DTs.
Hubert: 10 games very limited playing time 8 DTs.
A guy who is quietly having a pretty good season. Adams. 10 games, 14 DTs, 4 Sacks.
The CTV thing aggravates me on a number of levels. I wouldn't have an issue with it if they broadcast on both CTV and TSN but to put in only on CTV is annoying because I subscribe to TSN solely during the CFL season because of the CFL. I guess I'll have to get a set of 2024 rabbit ears to watch the Banjo Bowl.
And yes, overlapping the games is dumb
Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 03, 2024, 07:34:47 PMThe CTV thing aggravates me on a number of levels. I wouldn't have an issue with it if they broadcast on both CTV and TSN but to put in only on CTV is annoying because I subscribe to TSN solely during the CFL season because of the CFL. I guess I'll have to get a set of 2024 rabbit ears to watch the Banjo Bowl.
And yes, overlapping the games is dumb
Same here. And Rabbit ears won't work for me....
Quote from: markf on September 03, 2024, 07:41:24 PMSame here. And Rabbit ears won't work for me....
I've got some kind of digital rabbit ears inbound from Amazon. If they work ill let you know
I thought Brown getting suspended would be a 50 / 50 call. No word yet, so it doesn't appear that will happen. It's already close to the end of business day back East. Teams will be back to practice tomorrow so they'd have to know by tomorrow am.
What does everyone think?
If collaros starts, we win.
If Streveler starts, we lose?
Bombers are favourited by 2 points at this point in time.
Quote from: peg_city on September 03, 2024, 09:36:46 PMWhat does everyone think?
If collaros starts, we win.
If Streveler starts, we lose?
Bombers are favourited by 2 points at this point in time.
I think we have the Riders number at this point. The are in a losing spiral and playing in Winnipeg is never easy.
We win big even if we play Wilson at QB.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2024, 10:00:46 PMI think we have the Riders number at this point. The are in a losing spiral and playing in Winnipeg is never easy.
We win big even if we play Wilson at QB.
Woah! Shots fired.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2024, 08:29:24 PMI thought Brown getting suspended would be a 50 / 50 call. No word yet, so it doesn't appear that will happen. It's already close to the end of business day back East. Teams will be back to practice tomorrow so they'd have to know by tomorrow am.
I hope you are wrong, but sadly nothing would surprise me at this point with reffing and inconsistencies with player safety, etc.
Makes me wonder - Wade Miller essentially calls out the commish, and nothing, if that contributed to them then not issuing supplemental to avoid further controversy, or worse, to not "reward" Wade, that is even worse bush league.
If nothing is said about the play AND Wade gets issued a fine (and some of our players for speaking out) - I wonder how that'll play out on Saturday.
I can't see our players doing clearly dirty intentional plays, but the fans could sure make it an unwelcome atmosphere for the visiting team and Ambrosie.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 03, 2024, 05:55:18 PMThey had a D lineman playing o line and we hardly feasted. We didn't even snack..barely but a wafer was eaten. Our own D line is kinda meh.
While Micah Johnson is not an Olineman, he his an elite athlete, and we didn't have a week of planning on how to take advantage of a depleted Oline, like we will for Sat.
The TV crew did focus on his play, and we rushed 3 and he managed to do well.
This week of practice will know that there is a chink in the line, and will be able to plan stunts to take advantage of what will have to be a limited oline playbook.
Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 03, 2024, 08:10:26 PMI've got some kind of digital rabbit ears inbound from Amazon. If they work ill let you know
Thanks very much
Most powered antennas will get you the game (if close enough to the CTV tower) but I also know the princess auto ones get varied reviews. They have some in stock online and they ship pretty quick. On sale or clearance. You can also check stock at stores. If you buy enough they do free shipping. Shop and support local (my favorite store lol). There was a previous thread with a lot of good info on the topic posted months ago when it was announced that CTV would carry the games. If anyone has luck with an antenna far outside the city I would be interested. You should be able to get global and cbc and maybe an American channel if you are closer to the border. Not sure if city TV is still on air. Been a long time since I watched FTA TV.
Johnson will remain in the lineup because of his blocking
The criticism of our DL isn't warranted imo. We have one the best defenses in the league, even with a lot of turnover and injuries. We have had some pleasant surprises and our vets are steady and playing well. Not as flashy or stat heavy as in past but they are doing very well and we are developing some new studs.
Not sure sacks matter that much when the Bombers are leading defence in some categories...
Aren't they allowing the least points per game?
Quote from: The Zipp on September 03, 2024, 05:55:18 PMThey had a D lineman playing o line and we hardly feasted. We didn't even snack..barely but a wafer was eaten. Our own D line is kinda meh.
We were also using a three man rush all game long...
Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2024, 12:53:24 AMWhile Micah Johnson is not an Olineman, he his an elite athlete, and we didn't have a week of planning on how to take advantage of a depleted Oline, like we will for Sat.
The TV crew did focus on his play, and we rushed 3 and he managed to do well.
This week of practice will know that there is a chink in the line, and will be able to plan stunts to take advantage of what will have to be a limited oline playbook.
You shouldn't need a week of practice to figure out how to isolate and take advantage of a new player and defensive convert.
My opinion of Younger went down after this game.
I thought Johnson looked better than Eli, and as good as Dobson. But by rushing only 3, we allowed Sask to just let Johnson focus on helping out with double teams most of the time. I don't know why we wouldn't rush 4 or 5, to put pressure on him. Jake is part of the problem. When he's one of the three rushing, the middle of the pocket stays intact for 3-5 seconds at least. And if Willy is just hanging back looking to bat down a pass, the QB has all day to wait for a receiver to get open. Hopefully they come up with something different on Saturday. Would love to see Adams back in at DT.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 04, 2024, 01:30:50 AMYou shouldn't need a week of practice to figure out how to isolate and take advantage of a new player and defensive convert.
My opinion of Younger went down after this game.
Maybe he'll learn from that but on the other hand I think it was more that we had a plan and liked it. Personally I think we'll see a more traditional four man front return in the noise of the Banjo Bowl.
Quote from: jayrock on September 03, 2024, 01:36:52 PMI can not believe they are trying to wedge 3 games in on a Saturday. Especially one while I am going to be tailgating.
I guess with games on Monday you can't have a Thursday game - plus it's nfl Thursday AND NFL opening Sunday, can't go against that either.
Saturday it is...
Quote from: Big Daddy on September 04, 2024, 12:52:28 AMI hope you are wrong, but sadly nothing would surprise me at this point with reffing and inconsistencies with player safety, etc.
Makes me wonder - Wade Miller essentially calls out the commish, and nothing, if that contributed to them then not issuing supplemental to avoid further controversy, or worse, to not "reward" Wade, that is even worse bush league.
If nothing is said about the play AND Wade gets issued a fine (and some of our players for speaking out) - I wonder how that'll play out on Saturday.
I can't see our players doing clearly dirty intentional plays, but the fans could sure make it an unwelcome atmosphere for the visiting team and Ambrosie.
I don't think the league will impose any extra punishment beyond what's currently written in the rulebook, I mean how can they? They acknowledged the foul and penalized Brown on the spot with the appropriate penalty, maybe they'll throw a supplementary fine at him as well, but they can't invoke a suspension that goes beyond the prescribed punishment for the infraction committed. In the future they may be able to do this if they so choose, but only after it's first written down in the rule book.
Bluegogglers, please remember that Redha Kramdi did not receive a suspension for knocking Dru Brown out of the game with an elbow to the head in their early season matchup.
As for the rabbit ear discussion, the game will be streamed on CFL+ which can be viewed within Canada using a VPN to disguise your location. It ain't rocket sience peeples!
Quote from: BlueInCgy on September 03, 2024, 08:10:26 PMI've got some kind of digital rabbit ears inbound from Amazon. If they work ill let you know
Pretty sure the place that holds the naming right to the stadium previously known as IGF has digital rabbit ears cheap.
https://www.princessauto.com/en/120-mile-indoor-outdoor-digital-tv-antenna-with-amplifier/product/PA0009172305
Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2024, 06:09:21 AMPretty sure the place that holds the naming right to the stadium previously known as IGF has digital rabbit ears cheap.
Ya, it just dawned on me this is the best conspiracy theory ever!
PA takes over naming rights to the stadium... same year: CFL airs around a dozen games on a non-streaming channel that non-cable people can only get with new rabbit ears. And if you think rabbit ears in Winnipeg, where are you gonna go? Only PA. Who else would have them in-store?
COINCIDENCE?! I THINK NOT!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2024, 02:54:35 AMI don't think the league will impose any extra punishment beyond what's currently written in the rulebook, I mean how can they? They acknowledged the foul and penalized Brown on the spot with the appropriate penalty, maybe they'll throw a supplementary fine at him as well, but they can't invoke a suspension that goes beyond the prescribed punishment for the infraction committed. In the future they may be able to do this if they so choose, but only after it's first written down in the rule book.
The punishment they doled out to Kelly wasn't written in any rule book...
Ambrosise is King and can do whatever he wants!
Quote from: bunker on September 04, 2024, 02:00:16 AMAnd if Willy is just hanging back looking to bat down a pass, the QB has all day to wait for a receiver to get open. Hopefully they come up with something different on Saturday. Would love to see Adams back in at DT.
Except Trevor doesn't take or use "all day". The Trevor & SSK plan is clearly the "free" 10Y play the D gives up every down.
Only every 7-10 snaps did we insert a fly into the ointment to try to actually stop this. And I must say it worked beautifully on the final SSK TD attempt! Goad them into thinking all those 10Y curls and outs are wide open and boom, have some unexpected LBer or DL in the lane. Batdown or INT!
But man, it sure is hard on the ol' Blue heart.
If I'm SSK, I'm going to a mid/deep-mostly game plan in BB to try to catch us unprepared. We'll be cheating the line just like we did in LDC when we got burned on the odd deep corner.
Quote from: Jesse on September 04, 2024, 01:16:02 AMWe were also using a three man rush all game long...
Ya, don't blame the DL. Not much a 3 man rush can do against 5-6 blockers every snap. If you want to yell at the lack of pressure, blame the DC's plan.
Quote from: peg_city on September 03, 2024, 09:36:46 PMWhat does everyone think?
If collaros starts, we win.
If Streveler starts, we lose?
I wouldn't bet money on that. In fact, I'd easily still take WPG to win.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2024, 08:29:24 PMI thought Brown getting suspended would be a 50 / 50 call. No word yet, so it doesn't appear that will happen. It's already close to the end of business day back East. Teams will be back to practice tomorrow so they'd have to know by tomorrow am.
Fines usually announced EOD Wednesday. No idea if the LD holiday pushes this back to Thurs (I think not?).
Quote from: jdrattops on September 03, 2024, 01:33:41 PMGodber never returned. Shown on TV several times with the shoulder pads off.
Darn Riderfans forum letting me down again! Proves I need to vet everything I read there.
Rewatching the LDC: we can't just play that dumb zone on D all night like we did. Man we ran that zone the whole first half (probably more, but haven't rewatched that far yet).
Where was man coverage? I think we finally have the talent and comfort level with the players to try some man. I get that zone may work better against Trevor's 1-2s quick-release short-pass game... but you focus on zone if you want to get QB pressure and/or the QB isn't accurate so you can generate picks.
But we can't get pressure with rushing 3, and Trevor is probably the most accurate QB in the league... so WHY?
I watched the two Hallett screwups in that crap soft zone for TDs and just get so aggravated. But surely showing zone and playing man every 5 snaps or something could yield some confusion for Trevor and possible sacks or batdowns? In the exact same place in the GC we played man and Houston had a better shot at stopping the Philpot TD than Hallett ever did of stopping his 2 TDs.
In the end it worked, but I wouldn't count on Trevor failing dinking & dunking the whole way for enough TDs to win in BB.
I hope we really mix things up and throw a lot of unexpected curve balls in BB.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 03, 2024, 10:00:46 PMI think we have the Riders number at this point. The are in a losing spiral and playing in Winnipeg is never easy.
We win big even if we play Wilson at QB.
I will prepare for the blue cool aid replies, but being 1 point ahead in the standings and have a 1 - 1 record against them does not mean you have the riders number. This will be another close game and either team could win it.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 04, 2024, 02:53:38 AMI guess with games on Monday you can't have a Thursday game - plus it's nfl Thursday AND NFL opening Sunday, can't go against that either.
Saturday it is...
You nailed it Zipp. I am sure this is a reasoning.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 04, 2024, 06:27:51 AMI wouldn't bet money on that. In fact, I'd easily still take WPG to win.
See 2019 Banjo Bowl when Streveler started:
Quote from: jayrock on September 04, 2024, 01:35:46 PMI will prepare for the blue cool aid replies, but being 1 point ahead in the standings and have a 1 - 1 record against them does not mean you have the riders number. This will be another close game and either team could win it.
Riders have lost how many in a row now? Bombers have won how many games in a row now?
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 04, 2024, 02:32:02 PMRiders have lost how many in a row now? Bombers have won how many games in a row now?
Remember when we were 7-1 and SSK was 1-7?
Previous games do not matter. Its what you bring today that counts.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 04, 2024, 01:48:06 PMSee 2019 Banjo Bowl when Streveler started:
These highlights show what Strev. can do if given the chance to play more than a 3rd down specialist. Not going to win a GC with him, but if he gets back to this level no concerns with him as the second string QB.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2024, 03:38:20 PMThese highlights show what Strev. can do if given the chance to play more than a 3rd down specialist. Not going to win a GC with him, but if he gets back to this level no concerns with him as the second string QB.
Highlight films are just that. Players need to be consistent. IMO his throwing mechanics have gotten worse and he's no longer the running threat he used to be.
I'm counting on Collaros to play this week.
Good. Two practises + a walk through this week.
Zach is practicing as is Stanley B and Patty N - as per ed tait
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 04, 2024, 02:32:02 PMRiders have lost how many in a row now? Bombers have won how many games in a row now?
I am someone optimistic regarding the upcoming Banjo Bowl but do have some concerns around a number of injuries and related. I doubt Biggy will play but prepared for that. It is Zack that I worry about more than anything. I believe that Bryant will be back but anyway you cut it I think it will be a hard-fought close game.
I know the Riders will have their share of injuries too but still think this one will be close.
Quote from: The Zipp on September 04, 2024, 04:39:06 PMZach is practicing as is Stanley B and Patty N - as per ed tait
Good to know. I expect Collaros and Bryant to play but I've been surprised before. Neufeld practising is more of a surprise. He's only missed 4 games but it's not entirely impossible they don't take him off IR early. It does come with an SMS hit though.
Bryant returning bumps Eli to 6 OL so there might not be a need for a roster spot used for Vanterpool. OTOH, having a 7th OL is useful even if it's used rostering an import on an ELC.
no bighill and no Whitehead at practice.
It was great that Whitehead came back into the game - he might have won it for us with that return that got us a FG
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2024, 03:38:20 PMThese highlights show what Strev. can do if given the chance to play more than a 3rd down specialist. Not going to win a GC with him, but if he gets back to this level no concerns with him as the second string QB.
Considering Streveler went in cold, I think the decision was to play it safe and try and hold the lead going into the second half. I'm sure it didn't exactly go as planned considering the nailbiter ending, but that's part of a broader discussion, IMO.
He's rarely, if ever, going to beat an opponent with his arm. However, with the right gameplan, I think he can be effective enough to help get a win (such as the Banjo Bowl in 2019).
Quote from: The Zipp on September 04, 2024, 04:39:06 PMZach is practicing as is Stanley B and Patty N - as per ed tait
This is all great news!
Quote from: The Zipp on September 04, 2024, 05:03:58 PMno bighill and no Whitehead at practice.
It was great that Whitehead came back into the game - he might have won it for us with that return that got us a FG
Whitehead is either hurt or they didn't like him trying to buy beer for people bare knuckle boxing in the stands... or both?
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 04, 2024, 05:20:57 PMConsidering Streveler went in cold, I think the decision was to play it safe and try and hold the lead going into the second half. I'm sure it didn't exactly go as planned considering the nailbiter ending, but that's part of a broader discussion, IMO.
He's rarely, if ever, going to beat an opponent with his arm. However, with the right gameplan, I think he can be effective enough to help get a win (such as the Banjo Bowl in 2019).
This is all great news!
The game plan all season has been to play safe when Streveler is on the field. He hasn't been allowed to throw very often. When he is allowed it's short and safe.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 04, 2024, 05:54:51 PMWhitehead is either hurt or they didn't like him trying to buy beer for people bare knuckle boxing in the stands... or both?
He was nicked earlier in the game and wasn't very active as a receiver either. I don't think they'd hold him out of practise for that beer issue. Benching him is a different issue though.
Sounds like Zach is will be playing which is GREAT news. Although, I'm not overly worried about Streveler either as we would have had a week to plan a game around his abilities and he wouldn't be purely a game manager or short yardage specialist. That said, he wouldn't exactly transform into Ricky Ray over a few practices, either.
I like the Bombers' chances due to momentum and the fact that PAS is turned up to 11 on Banjo Bowl. Fully expect T-Hare to nickel and dime us across the field and give Lauther plenty of FGs, but I think we get 7s and our D can force some turnovers which will be the difference maker. I don't think it will be 55-0 but pray every night before bed that I'm wrong.
Apparently neither their starting centre Godber or LG Fry are practicing for the riders, assuming due to injuries from Sunday.
Some good news on Wallace:
@DTonOBAnd this is good: no crutches for guard Gabe Wallace. He injured a knee in that Hamilton game. Moving slow as he tests things out. Great news for him. #Bombers
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 04, 2024, 04:45:21 PMGood to know. I expect Collaros and Bryant to play but I've been surprised before. Neufeld practising is more of a surprise. He's only missed 4 games but it's not entirely impossible they don't take him off IR early. It does come with an SMS hit though.
Bryant returning bumps Eli to 6 OL so there might not be a need for a roster spot used for Vanterpool. OTOH, having a 7th OL is useful even if it's used rostering an import on an ELC.
Depending on what you consider practicing. Last week he took part in a few drills. This week he looked a little more mobile then last week but doesn't look ready to play yet. With next week a bye week, I can't see him playing this week.
SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS AT WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS
Saturday, Sept. 7 | 3:00 p.m. | Princess Auto Stadium
WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS Practice Day
Player Name Position Injury WED THU Game Status
Michael Chris-Ike FB Foot Full
Zach Collaros QB Neck Full
Adam Bighill LB Knee DNP
Brian Cole LB Foot Full
Pat Neufeld OL Knee Full
Stanley Bryant OL Illness Limited
SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS Practice Day
Player Name Position Injury WED THU FRI Game Status
Jayden Dalke DB Healthy scratch Full
Peter Godber OL Ankle DNP
Jaxon Ford DB Wrist Full
Zack Fry OL Elbow DNP
Amari Henderson DB Shoulder Full
Bruno Labelle FB Healthy scratch Full
Dohnte Meyers WR Shoulder DNP
Kian Schaffer-Baker WR Hip/Hand Full
Melique Straker LB Hip DNP
Nick Wiebe LB Knee Full
Quote from: Pigskin on September 04, 2024, 06:53:05 PMDepending on what you consider practicing. Last week he took part in a few drills. This week he looked a little more mobile then last week but doesn't look ready to play yet. With next week a bye week, I can't see him playing this week.
That would make sense both from a recovery time frame and an SMS issue. It really depends on how well we're doing with the changes on the OL.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 04, 2024, 08:12:07 PMThat would make sense both from a recovery time frame and an SMS issue. It really depends on how well we're doing with the changes on the OL.
I'd say we're fine enough with the OL to give him the extra time to get to full strength. Really hoping we can pull out another win this week with this patchwork and go into the bye and then out of it significantly more healthy than when we went in.
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 04, 2024, 09:15:53 PMI'd say we're fine enough with the OL to give him the extra time to get to full strength. Really hoping we can pull out another win this week with this patchwork and go into the bye and then out of it significantly more healthy than when we went in.
So much on the line this week. Since we might expect Adams to be added if Bighill comes off, there aren't really any obvious other imports to add elsewhere to take Vanderpool off IMO.
I agree he seems to be the best option for this week.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 04, 2024, 01:48:06 PMSee 2019 Banjo Bowl when Streveler started:
Very enjoyable. Thank you Blue_Gold_84 for that!
Good to see Cole back practicing. Its good timing with an injury to Bighill and Cole could play a part in replacing Bighill.
I predict Lawler is going to have a big game. I can't say what he's thinking, but this season is probably bothering him a fair bit.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 04, 2024, 01:48:06 PMSee 2019 Banjo Bowl when Streveler started:
I love how not only did I watch this game, but was at it and still barely remember anything about it.
Once we got Collaros behind centre, that was the best bomber team of this era.
Quote from: peg_city on September 05, 2024, 01:08:07 AMI love how not only did I watch this game, but was at it and still barely remember anything about it.
Once we got Collaros behind centre, that was the best bomber team of this era.
Zach is great but, no love for Streveler? Did you see how well he played in this game? What a beast of a warrior!
https://leaderpost.com/sports/football/cfl/saskatchewan-roughriders/sports-riders-update-new-offensive-line-for-banjo-bowl
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 04, 2024, 03:44:35 PMHighlight films are just that. Players need to be consistent. IMO his throwing mechanics have gotten worse and he's no longer the running threat he used to be.
Uh, I call "no way" on that one! His mechanics can't get any more unique and wacky than they already were.
But hey, it often seems to work for him!
On my rewatch of LDC I noticed that a couple of "bad throws" into the turf by Strev were actually throw-aways on busts in his protection. They were actually good throws to ditch the ball safely (guess he prefers the turf rather than the stands). I'm willing to bet huge money he was told to chuck it away on the first sign of trouble rather than force something. He was operating under strict instructions.
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 04, 2024, 09:15:53 PMI'd say we're fine enough with the OL to give him the extra time to get to full strength. Really hoping we can pull out another win this week with this patchwork and go into the bye and then out of it significantly more healthy than when we went in.
I wouldn't. I'd start Bryant if it's even remotely possible. I'm positive the SSK D will study and rip apart our patchwork LDC OL now that they have film. They didn't take as much advantage of our abnormal OL as much as they could have.
And if Neufeld starts, I'd put him on a super short leash! If the OL starts going back to sucksville, I'd sub Randolph back in. If it's better, stick with him. Everything finally worked vs BC when we went 3 IMP OL...
Quote from: markf on September 04, 2024, 11:26:11 PMI predict Lawler is going to have a big game. I can't say what he's thinking, but this season is probably bothering him a fair bit.
I've been predicting that for a zillion games this season by starting him in fantasy. Every single time he disappoints. In fact, all of our Rs have been horrible fantasy picks this season... except Pokey in that 200Y game (when no one picked him anyhow!).
We spread the ball too much, get too few yards, and basically no throwing TDs for any of our Rs to be worthwhile in fantasy. Brady, OTOH, is usually a great fantasy pick (though not vs SSK it seems) though the dude still doesn't have a TD!
AH33 used to get 1/3 of our TDs in the red zone... I have no idea why we can't get Brady to duplicate that.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 05, 2024, 02:34:50 AMI wouldn't. I'd start Bryant if it's even remotely possible. I'm positive the SSK D will study and rip apart our patchwork LDC OL now that they have film. They didn't take as much advantage of our abnormal OL as much as they could have.
And if Neufeld starts, I'd put him on a super short leash! If the OL starts going back to sucksville, I'd sub Randolph back in. If it's better, stick with him. Everything finally worked vs BC when we went 3 IMP OL...
Disagree they will rip us apart. Disagree on short leash.
I also think it works both ways: we'll study their patchwork OL and rip them apart this time. We had almost no pressure on Trevor... I think we might change that up for the BB. I really don't expect to see the same D game plan this time. I think we throw them some big curve balls.
Need To Know -- Week 14 -- Banjo Bowl (https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/09/04/need-to-know-week-14-banjo-bowl/)
Corey Mace (https://twitter.com/i/status/1831515936714838367)
Some early discussion about the Banjo Bowl and an update on injured players...
https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/09/04/need-to-know-week-14-banjo-bowl/
It sounds like the Bombers O line will have Neufeld back this week. Bryant seems less likely although not out yet and could still play. Todays practice is closed so we won't learn anything new. We should have a better idea on Friday what the roster looks like for the Banjo Bowl.
Quote from: J5V on September 05, 2024, 03:27:06 AMCorey Mace (https://twitter.com/i/status/1831515936714838367)
Cory Mace looks sleepy ( long blinks ) on the sidelines. Every time the camera was on him, he looked like he wanted to just close his eyes and go to sleep. :D
Quote from: wpg#1 on September 05, 2024, 01:55:55 PMCory Mace looks sleepy ( long blinks ) on the sidelines. Every time the camera was on him, he looked like he wanted to just close his eyes and go to sleep. :D
A lot of coaches spend so much time preparing for the big game that they don't get any sleep all week and come game time they are too exhausted to think straight.
Quote from: bwiser on September 05, 2024, 02:00:11 PMA lot of coaches spend so much time preparing for the big game that they don't get any sleep all week and come game time they are too exhausted to think straight.
So, is that why Osh does the smelling salts before each game?
Perfect timing for this article. Let's rip this scab off one more time. ;D
I have ZERO problem with him retiring, even if it was a late decision. You have to be committed to play pro sports, and perhaps it takes a while to admit to yourself that you don't have it any more. However, the bonus still rankles me.
https://3downnation.com/2024/09/05/my-family-wasnt-being-put-first-darian-durant-says-conversation-with-unnamed-coach-led-him-renege-on-blue-bombers/ (https://3downnation.com/2024/09/05/my-family-wasnt-being-put-first-darian-durant-says-conversation-with-unnamed-coach-led-him-renege-on-blue-bombers/)
'My family wasn't being put first': Darian Durant says conversation with unnamed coach led him renege on Blue Bombers
Darian Durant recently shed new light on his decision to retire from the CFL in May 2018, only four months after signing with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
"I definitely was interested and had every intention to go to Winnipeg and play (that year). I can remember a conversation I had with a coach — I won't say his name because I don't want to throw anyone under the bus — but I just had my first child and I was contemplating retiring because I just had a baby and I wanted to be there and going to Winnipeg would have took away from that," he told 620 CKRM.
"I was speaking with one of the coaches and he said, 'You know what? I didn't spend much time with my kids when they were young either, so you're not gonna miss much' and that kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't really like that, so at that point, I said, 'You know what? I don't want to be a part of a situation where a coach doesn't put family first.' I've always been in that environment starting with Kent Austin and then moving on to Ken Miller and even [Corey] Chamblin, they all preached family and when I felt like my family wasn't being put first, I got a little bitter about that and decided to just hang it up."
Durant made it clear that family was his primary reason for retiring back in 2018 when he originally made his announcement. At that time, he claimed his wife wouldn't be able to join him in Winnipeg as much as they were originally anticipating and that being away for an out-of-town off-season training session was harder than he'd expected, illustrating how difficult it would be to leave for an entire season.
The new piece of information from this latest interview was the phone call he shared with an unnamed coach in Winnipeg. The club's coaching staff has remained mostly intact since Durant retired, including Mike O'Shea, Buck Pierce, Kevin Bourgoin, Marty Costello, Richie Hall, and Jordan Younger, though some of those individuals now hold different roles than they did back in 2018. Coaches who were with Winnipeg that season but have since departed include Paul LaPolice, Glen Young, and Paul Boudreau.
The Blue Bombers have made a point of allowing players to miss games for the birth of children in recent years, including Canadian starters Nic Demski and Patrick Neufeld as recently as 2023. The team also allowed then-backup quarterback Dru Brown to miss a game that year following the death of his father.
Durant's retirement was considered controversial at the time because he'd received a $70,000 signing bonus from the Blue Bombers, who felt they weren't properly informed of his decision to retire. Reports at the time indicated that the team asked for the money back and Durant declined. The veteran passer only addressed the signing bonus in one interview and said he believed he deserved the money despite rendering no services to the team.
The native of Florence, S.C. received calls about returning to the field after his retirement announcement but ultimately decided not to play again.
"(Then-starting quarterback) Matt Nichols was injured during training camp (with the Blue Bombers) when I initially retired and so I fielded a few phone calls from my agent asking if I wanted to double back and go back and play but at that point, I had made up my mind that I'm pretty much done," said Durant.
"It's never easy to hang up the cleats. This is a sport and something that I've been doing pretty much my entire life, so it's very hard to hang it up. But playing in one place like Saskatchewan for so long and then having a bad experience in Montreal, I didn't want to repeat that in Winnipeg, so I realized that it was time for me to hang it up."
Durant remained mostly out of the spotlight following his retirement until last year when he returned to Regina to be inducted into the Plaza of Honour as part of Saskatchewan's 2013 Grey Cup team.
The 42-year-old is now a regular on 620 CKRM and recently hosted 'Dinner with Doubles,' an inaugural charity event that was held the night before the Labour Day Classic. A fan from North Battleford, Sask. paid $5,600 for four tickets to sit at Durant's table, a testament to how beloved he remains in Rider Nation. He will return to the city later this year to be inducted into the team's Plaza of Honour as an individual.
Durrant better get up to the CKRM booth early, and not walk around the concourse. he might get a hotdog thrown at him.
Quote from: pdirks67 on September 05, 2024, 05:12:35 PMPerfect timing for this article. Let's rip this scab off one more time. ;D
I have ZERO problem with him retiring, even if it was a late decision. You have to be committed to play pro sports, and perhaps it takes a while to admit to yourself that you don't have it any more. However, the bonus still rankles me.
https://3downnation.com/2024/09/05/my-family-wasnt-being-put-first-darian-durant-says-conversation-with-unnamed-coach-led-him-renege-on-blue-bombers/ (https://3downnation.com/2024/09/05/my-family-wasnt-being-put-first-darian-durant-says-conversation-with-unnamed-coach-led-him-renege-on-blue-bombers/)
'My family wasn't being put first': Darian Durant says conversation with unnamed coach led him renege on Blue Bombers
Darian Durant recently shed new light on his decision to retire from the CFL in May 2018, only four months after signing with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
"I definitely was interested and had every intention to go to Winnipeg and play (that year). I can remember a conversation I had with a coach — I won't say his name because I don't want to throw anyone under the bus — but I just had my first child and I was contemplating retiring because I just had a baby and I wanted to be there and going to Winnipeg would have took away from that," he told 620 CKRM.
"I was speaking with one of the coaches and he said, 'You know what? I didn't spend much time with my kids when they were young either, so you're not gonna miss much' and that kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't really like that, so at that point, I said, 'You know what? I don't want to be a part of a situation where a coach doesn't put family first.' I've always been in that environment starting with Kent Austin and then moving on to Ken Miller and even [Corey] Chamblin, they all preached family and when I felt like my family wasn't being put first, I got a little bitter about that and decided to just hang it up."
Durant made it clear that family was his primary reason for retiring back in 2018 when he originally made his announcement. At that time, he claimed his wife wouldn't be able to join him in Winnipeg as much as they were originally anticipating and that being away for an out-of-town off-season training session was harder than he'd expected, illustrating how difficult it would be to leave for an entire season.
The new piece of information from this latest interview was the phone call he shared with an unnamed coach in Winnipeg. The club's coaching staff has remained mostly intact since Durant retired, including Mike O'Shea, Buck Pierce, Kevin Bourgoin, Marty Costello, Richie Hall, and Jordan Younger, though some of those individuals now hold different roles than they did back in 2018. Coaches who were with Winnipeg that season but have since departed include Paul LaPolice, Glen Young, and Paul Boudreau.
The Blue Bombers have made a point of allowing players to miss games for the birth of children in recent years, including Canadian starters Nic Demski and Patrick Neufeld as recently as 2023. The team also allowed then-backup quarterback Dru Brown to miss a game that year following the death of his father.
Durant's retirement was considered controversial at the time because he'd received a $70,000 signing bonus from the Blue Bombers, who felt they weren't properly informed of his decision to retire. Reports at the time indicated that the team asked for the money back and Durant declined. The veteran passer only addressed the signing bonus in one interview and said he believed he deserved the money despite rendering no services to the team.
The native of Florence, S.C. received calls about returning to the field after his retirement announcement but ultimately decided not to play again.
"(Then-starting quarterback) Matt Nichols was injured during training camp (with the Blue Bombers) when I initially retired and so I fielded a few phone calls from my agent asking if I wanted to double back and go back and play but at that point, I had made up my mind that I'm pretty much done," said Durant.
"It's never easy to hang up the cleats. This is a sport and something that I've been doing pretty much my entire life, so it's very hard to hang it up. But playing in one place like Saskatchewan for so long and then having a bad experience in Montreal, I didn't want to repeat that in Winnipeg, so I realized that it was time for me to hang it up."
Durant remained mostly out of the spotlight following his retirement until last year when he returned to Regina to be inducted into the Plaza of Honour as part of Saskatchewan's 2013 Grey Cup team.
The 42-year-old is now a regular on 620 CKRM and recently hosted 'Dinner with Doubles,' an inaugural charity event that was held the night before the Labour Day Classic. A fan from North Battleford, Sask. paid $5,600 for four tickets to sit at Durant's table, a testament to how beloved he remains in Rider Nation. He will return to the city later this year to be inducted into the team's Plaza of Honour as an individual.
I smell BS. He collected his $70,000 bonus and f'ed off. He is a terrible at lying.
Of course Durant blames some unnamed coach; it's always someone else's fault. And just one more instance of him taking absolutely no responsibility for his own questionable decisions, like taking money he didn't earn.
What an irredeemable loser.
I think we should begin Saturday's game before O Canada with a special ceremony unveiling Darian on the Ring of Honour. Like a completely ironic but serious ceremony, with the jumbotron showing highlights of the time of him announcing his retirement thru the 2019 season leading up to our Grey Cup victory. Just a complete troll move, right in front of his face, the Rider team and coaches, travelling fans, and everyone watching on TV.
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 05, 2024, 07:00:26 PMI think we should begin Saturday's game before O Canada with a special ceremony unveiling Darian on the Ring of Honour. Like a completely ironic but serious ceremony, with the jumbotron showing highlights of the time of him announcing his retirement thru the 2019 season leading up to our Grey Cup victory. Just a complete troll move, right in front of his face, the Rider team and coaches, travelling fans, and everyone watching on TV.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS Practice Day
Player Name Position Injury WED THU Game Status
Michael Chris-Ike FB Foot Full Full Questionable
Zach Collaros QB Neck Full Full Available
Adam Bighill LB Knee DNP DNP Out
Brian Cole LB Foot Full Full Questionable
Pat Neufeld OL Knee Full Full Questionable
Stanley Bryant OL Illness Limited DNP Doubtful
Lucky Whitehead WR Ankle DNP DNP Doubtful
SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS Practice Day
Player Name Position Injury WED THU Game Status
Jayden Dalke DB Healthy scratch Full Full Available
Peter Godber OL Ankle DNP DNP Out
Jaxon Ford DB Wrist Full Full Available
Zack Fry OL Elbow DNP DNP Out
Amari Henderson DB Shoulder Full Full Available
Bruno Labelle FB Healthy scratch Full Full Available
Dohnte Meyers WR Shoulder DNP DNP Out
Kian Schaffer-Baker WR Hip/Hand Full Full Available
Melique Straker LB Hip DNP DNP Out
Nick Wiebe LB Knee Full Full Available
no Meyers will hurt Sask, he is deadly, their OL will be rough
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 05, 2024, 07:48:19 PMWINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS Practice Day
Player Name Position Injury WED THU Game Status
Michael Chris-Ike FB Foot Full Full Questionable
Zach Collaros QB Neck Full Full Available
Adam Bighill LB Knee DNP DNP Out
Brian Cole LB Foot Full Full Questionable
Pat Neufeld OL Knee Full Full Questionable
Stanley Bryant OL Illness Limited DNP Doubtful
Lucky Whitehead WR Ankle DNP DNP Doubtful
SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS Practice Day
Player Name Position Injury WED THU Game Status
Jayden Dalke DB Healthy scratch Full Full Available
Peter Godber OL Ankle DNP DNP Out
Jaxon Ford DB Wrist Full Full Available
Zack Fry OL Elbow DNP DNP Out
Amari Henderson DB Shoulder Full Full Available
Bruno Labelle FB Healthy scratch Full Full Available
Dohnte Meyers WR Shoulder DNP DNP Out
Kian Schaffer-Baker WR Hip/Hand Full Full Available
Melique Straker LB Hip DNP DNP Out
Nick Wiebe LB Knee Full Full Available
no Meyers will hurt Sask, he is deadly, their OL will be rough
No worse then the O line they had pieced together on Sunday. At least this one will have a few practices under their belts.
If $Durant show up here, I fear he's going to be greeted with more than a thrown hot dog.
His story does not track. If he had a new baby, then he knew it was on the way when he signed. To suggest that any coach under MOS would suggest that family does not come first is an outright lie. This is obfuscation to justify his ripping off the Bombers. It makes me much more angry at him than I was before when he was just a welcher.
How does he justify "being owed" the $70k? He prevented us from pursuing other avenues at QB and left us in the lurch, while having done nothing at all for the $70k. More than the $SMS cap hit he stung us for, he left us less prepared for the season.
Family does come first, and I might suggest that he is the Ahole in signing a contract KNOWING he had a baby on the way and that he'd be leaving his wife behind to play. Using an excuse like blaming an unnamed coach, well. it doubles the disdain for Durian Durant. (ever smelt a Durian fruit?)
I think its pretty clear to all but the most biased rider fans that Durant demonstrated no integrity or honesty in his dealings with the bombers. Either he knew he wasn't going to show up when he signed his contract (which essentially makes him a thief), or he changed his mind, in which case the ethical thing to do is to return the money. By keeping it, he's demonstrating that he'll sell out his name and any principles he has for $70,000. There's no way O'Shea, Richy Hall or Buck would ever pull something like this. Karma is that people notice things like this, and I think any chance Durant has for a future position in the CFL other than with the Riders will be an uphill climb.
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 05, 2024, 07:00:26 PMI think we should begin Saturday's game before O Canada with a special ceremony unveiling Darian on the Ring of Honour. Like a completely ironic but serious ceremony, with the jumbotron showing highlights of the time of him announcing his retirement thru the 2019 season leading up to our Grey Cup victory. Just a complete troll move, right in front of his face, the Rider team and coaches, travelling fans, and everyone watching on TV.
This would be the greatest thing ever. And then cap it off with this aged like milk moment: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/durant-hoist-that-trophy-again-1.3817060
Quote"We will hoist that trophy again before I walk out of town. You can mark that down and that will be my next one." said Durant
Loser.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWvVhUqWEAAnvGh?format=jpg&name=small)
Brown should have been suspended. It was a dirty play and worthy of a suspension. Its the second time in a month he's had such a play. CFL discipline is a joke.
Quote from: RebusRankin on September 05, 2024, 09:47:00 PMBrown should have been suspended. It was a dirty play and worthy of a suspension. Its the second time in a month he's had such a play. CFL discipline is a joke.
Hopefully, he'll get some informal discipline from the bombers on the field.
I like that he's playing. Will make it more fun and I think it will result in the Bombers defense playing without the safety on, so to speak. Bring on Saturday!
Quote from: blue_or_die on September 05, 2024, 07:00:26 PMI think we should begin Saturday's game before O Canada with a special ceremony unveiling Darian on the Ring of Honour. Like a completely ironic but serious ceremony, with the jumbotron showing highlights of the time of him announcing his retirement thru the 2019 season leading up to our Grey Cup victory. Just a complete troll move, right in front of his face, the Rider team and coaches, travelling fans, and everyone watching on TV.
As long as they include his cart ride off the field in that celebration.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 05, 2024, 02:34:50 AMI wouldn't. I'd start Bryant if it's even remotely possible. I'm positive the SSK D will study and rip apart our patchwork LDC OL now that they have film. They didn't take as much advantage of our abnormal OL as much as they could have.
And if Neufeld starts, I'd put him on a super short leash! If the OL starts going back to sucksville, I'd sub Randolph back in. If it's better, stick with him. Everything finally worked vs BC when we went 3 IMP OL...
I'm curious on your response... Would you ever think about moving Randolph to RT for Lofton? The kid has been pretty solid other than those couple quarters when SB went down.
Quote from: RebusRankin on September 05, 2024, 09:47:00 PMBrown should have been suspended. It was a dirty play and worthy of a suspension. Its the second time in a month he's had such a play. CFL discipline is a joke.
Was he fined for his dirtbaggery the last time or just this time?
Quote from: RebusRankin on September 05, 2024, 09:47:00 PMBrown should have been suspended. It was a dirty play and worthy of a suspension. Its the second time in a month he's had such a play. CFL discipline is a joke.
Couldn't agree more. In the good ole days, players handled this by cut blocking the guy in an attempt to take out his knees, one guy engages with the guy, the other guy cut blocks him....but that was back in the eye for an eye days....man how i miss those days!!
Reading the rider forum on Durant, if its green they defend them like family, but the thats part of where the banjo boel name originated
Quote from: jdrattops on September 05, 2024, 10:04:44 PMI'm curious on your response... Would you ever think about moving Randolph to RT for Lofton? The kid has been pretty solid other than those couple quarters when SB went down.
Hmmmm...you might have something here...
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Quote from: jdrattops on September 05, 2024, 10:04:44 PMI'm curious on your response... Would you ever think about moving Randolph to RT for Lofton? The kid has been pretty solid other than those couple quarters when SB went down.
Lofton has been more than decent at RT I wouldn't mess with him. If Randolph is sent back to the PR he can go to LT school and if he does well he can become the future replacement for Stanley.
Quote from: theaardvark on September 05, 2024, 03:40:48 PMSo, is that why Osh does the smelling salts before each game?
It's all of them. Remember how many packets I found littering the BC bench the other week. And it's not just pre-game, everyone is going all game long. It's to the CFL what chawing-tabaccy is/was to baseball.
Quote from: jdrattops on September 05, 2024, 10:04:44 PMI'm curious on your response... Would you ever think about moving Randolph to RT for Lofton? The kid has been pretty solid other than those couple quarters when SB went down.
If Big Stan is healthy, I'm keeping Randolph in Neuf's spot, and everyone else the same. We directly saw massive improvement with only 1 OL change: Neuf->Randolph. And over 3 games, not just some rando single game luck.
Only if things start going back to week 1-5 bad do you then change the OL. Then you consider is Neuf better than Dobson or Randolph or Lofton? Assuming Neuf can play on the left side...
Lofton at RT has been stout lately. I don't think his run block is nearly as good as Yoshi's, but his pass-pro is starting to get close! I think Mafia sees this and that's why he's stayed static at that spot. He'll probably only get better, and we use our jumbo to get the run block we used to get from Yosh.
At our worst Lofton was rarely the weak link.
Randolph with only 1.5 games under his belt at LT hasn't been too bad, and seems to be improving. If he has past LT experience, he may be the better choice for grooming when Stan leaves. We'll always still need a RT, so leave Lofton where he's been doing well if you have guys who you can experiment with at LT. (However, Stan ain't going nowhere until after 2025, unless his heart is blowing up.)
Quote from: dd on September 05, 2024, 10:43:41 PMCouldn't agree more. In the good ole days, players handled this by cut blocking the guy in an attempt to take out his knees, one guy engages with the guy, the other guy cut blocks him....but that was back in the eye for an eye days....man how i miss those days!!
Completely illegal nowadays, of course! But you knew that. Not only do you have to slip it past the refs, but the EITS will throw those flags if it spots them, it's part of their allowed auto-reviews. And they've actually done this in the past!
And hurting Brown doesn't really "get them back", hurting Trevor does!! Not saying you should do that, and I know Mafia-led players never plan that, but in theory that's what would even the score.
I don't think you need to play to hurt Trevor anyhow, the dude is glass. Just get some legit sacks on him and he'll probably be benched.
So I'd say do what MOS will almost certainly be saying: just concentrate on and do your normal job. Karma often evens these things out for you.
We should win this one to spite Durant. What a stupid interview, and stupid answers. 3down is even complicit as they didn't really say (at least not in the top 5 paragraphs where it mattered) that Durant never took a live snap for WFC. If you read just the first few paras, you get the impression he dressed for some real games because he was "signed for 4 months".
They should just come out and say in the first paragraph that the DB took our big bonus money in Jan and then buggered off 4 months later before the season ever started.
And "nameless" (probably non-existent) "coach" isn't the one who would grant him leave or not... if he really wanted it he goes to the top. The whole story doesn't make sense. He's fishing for excuses to placate his internal guilt. Never thought I'd hate a QB more than BLM, but here we are! Thanks Durant!
Who takes $70k from a team and fails to show up and earn that money? I'll answer the question - a mercenary! No excuse or reason would ever support such a decision. Is is legal? Yes, according to the rules. Is is fair and acceptable? Clearly no. You don't show up for work. You shouldn't get paid - bonus or otherwise.
Brown and Mace make excuses. I say "liars!", but whatever... you be the judge.
As others have pointed out, Brown was the guy who also got flagged for taking Dru out of an OTT game by doing the ol' "I'm still rolling!" routine.
I look at Brown's record and compare with 12 year vet Fatboi's nearly spotless record...
https://3downnation.com/2024/09/05/miles-brown-not-a-dirty-player-as-saskatchewan-roughriders-dl-explains-intent-during-high-hit-on-zach-collaros/
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 06, 2024, 04:51:56 AMLofton has been more than decent at RT I wouldn't mess with him. If Randolph is sent back to the PR he can go to LT school and if he does well he can become the future replacement for Stanley.
My big hope was that Randolph comes in and kills it at RG (which I think he did) and then he takes the RT spot next season. There's no way we mess around with the OL like that in this part of the season without injury though.
Randolph's success as big Stan's back-up indicates he'll be a great option wherever we can get him in next year, though. Hopefully Stan comes back for one more year.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 06, 2024, 06:51:36 AMBrown and Mace make excuses. I say "liars!", but whatever... you be the judge.
As others have pointed out, Brown was the guy who also got flagged for taking Dru out of an OTT game by doing the ol' "I'm still rolling!" routine.
I look at Brown's record and compare with 12 year vet Fatboi's nearly spotless record...
https://3downnation.com/2024/09/05/miles-brown-not-a-dirty-player-as-saskatchewan-roughriders-dl-explains-intent-during-high-hit-on-zach-collaros/
My two sense, some bomber fans are starting to come off sounding like spoiled children when things do not go their way. 4 years of success and great football, and now the team is just good enough and not everything is going their way they start to complain and whine on and on about it, it comes off badly. Was it a high hit, you bet. Penalty given fine handed out. Brown is not a dirty player and he does not have a history of things like this.
You sound just like all the Rider fans in July when Biggy tackled Patterson. And to top it off, to hint at bomber players have the right to hurt another player, just does not help your cause.
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 03:05:07 PMMy two sense, some bomber fans are starting to come off sounding like spoiled children when things do not go their way. 4 years of success and great football, and now the team is just good enough and not everything is going their way they start to complain and whine on and on about it, it comes off badly. Was it a high hit, you bet. Penalty given fine handed out. Brown is not a dirty player and he does not have a history of things like this.
You sound just like all the Rider fans in July when Biggy tackled Patterson. And to top it off, to hint at bomber players have the right to hurt another player, just does not help your cause.
Oh please. You're spending too much time in the Rider Forum echo chamber.
The Riders continue to be the most fined organization this year in the CFL for dangerous play. This year is not an anomaly. Over the last several years, the Riders organization was caught breaking rules related to practice roster and rules and subsequently fined (after getting into a public spat with the old commissioner). They defended Garrett Marino for weeks (even following one of the dirtiest plays and then completely reprehensible celebration afterwards that I have ever seen on a football field at ANY level of play) before they were forced into doing the right thing. Duke Williams was suspended for throwing his helmet at an opponents face in WARMUPS in 2022 (and in a later incident banned from the sidelines for causing a major disturbance in while in street clothes). They caught hot water for "girl math" this off-season after offending woman across the country. We've had one ourselves, but there's been SEVERAL DUI situations over there in recent years.
The Riders are not well run, they aren't an example to follow and they have been pretty bad on the field, which is not surprising. I get why Riders fans are frustrated but you are barking up the wrong tree by calling Bombers fans "spoiled", when really, they seem to be clearly saying they'd prefer not to see concussions on very avoidable headshots, which is exactly what the Bombers organization has had to say
two years in a row after Labour Day.
Cool?
Here's my 2 cents. Rider fans keep claiming conspiracies'( completely ridiculous ), the CFL is against them, everyone hates us .. blah blah blah, but don't want to look at WHY they are getting the penalties and fines.
That riderfans forum is completely ridiculous. They say Wade Miller should be fined for being upset that Zach got hit high, and refuse to look at why Brown got fined.
The complaining includes my friends and family in Saskatchewan !! I hear it all the time.
NUTS !!
Quote from: wpg#1 on September 06, 2024, 03:37:25 PMHere's my 2 cents. Rider fans keep claiming conspiracies'( completely ridiculous ), the CFL is against them, everyone hates us .. blah blah blah, but don't want to look at WHY they are getting the penalties and fines.
That riderfans forum is completely ridiculous. They say Wade Miller should be fined for being upset that Zach got hit high, and refuse to look at why Brown got fined.
NUTS !!
well your first mistake is do not ever go to the rider form. Those people are crazy. And it is always easier to look in from the outside then it is to see from the inside out.
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 03:43:22 PMwell your first mistake is do not ever go to the rider form. Those people are crazy. And it is always easier to look in from the outside then it is to see from the inside out.
:D That's true. After I go in there and read a little, I ask myself WHY I did that. But, I do get it from family and friends in Sask also.
Oh well, lets just hope for a great day of football !!
Quote from: wpg#1 on September 06, 2024, 03:47:52 PM:D That's true. After I go in there and read a little, I ask myself WHY I did that. But, I do get it from family and friends in Sask also.
Oh well, lets just hope for a great day of football !!
I feel the same way some days when I come on here and read, and then I can not help myself, I have to say something and stir the pot a bit. At least you only get it virtually from family, its live and in person for me....haha.
Tomorrow is going to be a fun day regardless. Hope the folks in 212 are ready for me. Especially since apparently I have to be at the tailgate for 1130
Quote from: ModAdmin on September 06, 2024, 06:42:09 AMWho takes $70k from a team and fails to show up and earn that money? I'll answer the question - a mercenary! No excuse or reason would every support such a decision. Is is legal? Yes, according to the rules. Is is fair and acceptable? Clearly no. You don't show up for work. You shouldn't get paid - bonus or otherwise.
I believe the timeline on this was he took the signing bonus in mid Jan. and did tell the Bombers until TC was about to begin, putting them in a spot. In fact he did not have the stones to tell them at all, as Walters said, they learned of his retirement through social media.
for those who tailgate, what time are you all aiming to arrive?
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 05:29:29 PMfor those who tailgate, what time are you all aiming to arrive?
all times? Want a good spot I've seen multiple groups be there for 9AM for Banjo Bowl game day.
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 05:29:29 PMfor those who tailgate, what time are you all aiming to arrive?
Come there for 6:30 AM, if we aren't there start without us!
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 03:05:07 PMMy two sense, some bomber fans are starting to come off sounding like spoiled children
Spoiled? Yes, WPG fans have been spoiled since 2019. Children? Well, that's ad hominem, so I won't even address it. Personally, I try to put a lot of meat into my posts, not just throw out petulant one-liners like 90% of the Riderfans forum.
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 03:05:07 PMand now the team is just good enough and not everything is going their way they start to complain and whine on and on about it
Are you sure about that? #1 in the W after sucking in the first 6-7 games? When has that ever happened in the West? I know which fan base feels more confident right now, and which one is sweating bullets!
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 03:05:07 PMBrown is not a dirty player and he does not have a history of things like this.
He literally does have a history of doing "things like this"! He took out Dru, now he takes out Zach. Most DL will go all season never taking out anyone. So when one player is responsible for 2 separate QB injuries, that's an exceptional outlier. It's literally the definition of "history" (referencing things that occurred in the past).
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 03:05:07 PMYou sound just like all the Rider fans in July when Biggy tackled Patterson.
Except Patterson jumped up and was laughing with his mates how he was trying to draw a flag, and all after doing ridiculous run arounds without throwing the ball away like every other QB would do. Zach was standing there after releasing the ball expecting protection and he gets a late concussion-attempt head shot. Hardly the same.
You'd have more of an argument bringing up the '18 Bridges incident like Rider fans love to do. But that was before the CFL brought in all the new QB protections...
Quote from: jayrock on September 06, 2024, 03:05:07 PMAnd to top it off, to hint at bomber players have the right to hurt another player, just does not help your cause.
No, just pointing out how many teams will target for revenge. It's between the players and has nothing to do with us. Who's to say Brown's hit wasn't revenge for the Patterson thing? And I explicitly said MOS/WPG never bother with revenge, because it detracts from their game plan and concentration.
Advocating for legal hard hits in a game is what fans do. Pointing out how fragile a particular QB is just stating reality. I never once said WPG should do anything dirty, I'll leave that to Brown.
One thing we should both agree on is the need to protect QBs, because both WPG and SSK have exceptionally fragile QBs: Zach with his noggin, and Trevor with everything below the neck. (Patterson is a young'n and can take falling on his butt, just like Strev takes running-back-mode headshots from every SSK DB/LB.) We have literally the oldest and most fragile (to hits) QBs in the whole league, by a wide margin. (Masoli doesn't count as his thing is non-contact injuries.)
Wanting to protect our #1 QB and really only shot at a post-season is not "spoiled" or whining: it is a critical matter of survival. Yes, we will complain about every little head bump because Zach is at the stage that any bump can force him out of a game (or several). You would too if he was still your QB. And why shouldn't QBs be afforded an expectation of staying safe from getting concussed on non-legal hits?
Everyone claims they want to see QBs protected and healthy, and having Patterson vs Strevie doesn't get the TV ratings or butts in seats like having the marquee guys does. So ya, let's have more discussions when Zach gets concussed out of a game, not less.