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Title: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: The Zipp on August 19, 2024, 02:06:26 AM
If there ever was a trap game this is it.  New DC for Hamilton.  Short week and limited practice for the Bombers. 

This is a game that we should win if our defence plays like it has shown.

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:08:26 AM
Need to start fast and just put them away early.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 19, 2024, 02:11:05 AM
Not a trap game. Ti Cats are really a very bad team. They will be on the road and it will be loud in the stadium. BLM won't be starting so we'll see Powell. They also had some injuries this week and I doubt a couple will play.

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:12:32 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2024, 02:11:05 AMNot a trap game. Ti Cats are really a very bad team. They will be on the road and it will be loud in the stadium. BLM won't be starting so we'll see Powell. They also had some injuries this week and I doubt a couple will play.



Didn't Powell get carted off in an ambulance last game?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 19, 2024, 02:14:43 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:12:32 AMDidn't Powell get carted off in an ambulance last game?

But released today! Nothing that Bell high speed internet and a New York Fries cheesy poutine can't fix or maybe I'm just watching too many CFL games.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 19, 2024, 02:16:18 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:12:32 AMDidn't Powell get carted off in an ambulance last game?

Precautionary and he was released today. It's possible they may choose to sit him if he's experiencing any side effects.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 19, 2024, 02:19:42 AM
I don't see the Ticats scoring a point in this game
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:22:46 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2024, 02:16:18 AMPrecautionary and he was released today. It's possible they may choose to sit him if he's experiencing any side effects.

I just wouldn't say it's a given that he's starting until I see him practicing.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Big Daddy on August 19, 2024, 02:23:27 AM
Honestly I'd like to see BLM so we can crush him.  No chance Zach would say at the half time interview that "we are showing them who they really are" as we lay a beat down (those of you that know what I'm talking about, will know), but I would like nothing more than to see us humble BLM because I don't think he is humbled at all.

Howdy doody - love to see him taken down a notch this week.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:25:05 AM
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 19, 2024, 02:23:27 AMHonestly I'd like to see BLM so we can crush him.  No chance Zach would say at the half time interview that "we are showing them who they really are" as we lay a beat down (those of you that know what I'm talking about, will know), but I would like nothing more than to see us humble BLM because I don't think he is humbled at all.

Howdy doody - love to see him taken down a notch this week.

Love it if he did though.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 19, 2024, 02:28:03 AM
BLM plays and he not only won't score any points we will pick him 3 times and thoroughly embarrass that hillbilly!!
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 19, 2024, 02:31:13 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2024, 02:16:18 AMPrecautionary and he was released today. It's possible they may choose to sit him if he's experiencing any side effects.
mmmm not really he was clearly knocked out in that game. I concede he will likely start. If it is Bo Pop gun.

I agree not a trap game blue Bombers will come in hungry!
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:41:50 AM
I would agree it's a trap game, but it's not like we're rolling in at 10-0.

We shouldn't be taking anything for granted right now.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: ichabod_crane on August 19, 2024, 03:02:16 AM
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 19, 2024, 02:23:27 AMHonestly I'd like to see BLM so we can crush him.  No chance Zach would say at the half time interview that "we are showing them who they really are" as we lay a beat down (those of you that know what I'm talking about, will know), but I would like nothing more than to see us humble BLM because I don't think he is humbled at all.

Howdy doody - love to see him taken down a notch this week.

Give it up already "who we really are!" It's stale and old news already... It's also called gamesmanship and if a Bomber was a bit cocky on a great team nobody would have an issue with it. I never had an issue with that comment and Bo was great in the Calgary community always. Never heard a bad thing ever gossiped about him. Sour grapes if you ask me if you are still carrying a grudge this long already. 

What about Dieter Brock dissing Winnipeg back in the day....NOTHING BUT THE ZOO TO SEE! :D That is much more distasteful to me, but then again I could care less in the end as he was out the door by that time. HIS opinion, not mine.
 
It is only a GAME....no one hurt outside feeble feelings. Move on.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 19, 2024, 03:02:48 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 02:41:50 AMI would agree it's a trap game, but it's not like we're rolling in at 10-0.

We shouldn't be taking anything for granted right now.

Agreed. It would be a trap game if we were 8-2. We're 2 wins better and we've scored about 50 less points than them and O'Shea should remind the offense of that every day all week.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2024, 03:04:39 AM
Quote from: The Zipp on August 19, 2024, 02:06:26 AMIf there ever was a trap game this is it.  New DC for Hamilton.  Short week and limited practice for the Bombers. 

This is a game that we should win if our defence plays like it has shown.


No trap, a great team playing a terrible one.  We are at home, we can only loose by beating ourselves.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 19, 2024, 03:05:24 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 19, 2024, 03:04:39 AMNo trap, a great team playing a terrible one.  We are at home, we can only loose by beating ourselves.

That is the definition of a trap game, no?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 03:05:45 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 19, 2024, 03:02:16 AMGive it up already "who we really are!" It's stale and old news already... It's also called gamesmanship and if a Bomber was a bit cocky on a great team nobody would have an issue with it. I never had an issue with that comment and Bo was great in the Calgary community always. Never heard a bad thing ever gossiped about him. Sour grapes if you ask me if you are still carrying a grudge this long already. 

What about Dieter Brock dissing Winnipeg back in the day....NOTHING BUT THE ZOO TO SEE! :D That is much more distasteful to me, but then again I could care less in the end as he was out the door by that time. HIS opinion, not mine.
 
It is only a GAME....no one hurt outside feeble feelings. Move on.

Exactly. It's a game. It's entertainment. We're allowed to hate the villains.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2024, 03:08:19 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 19, 2024, 03:05:24 AMThat is the definition of a trap game, no?
Trap game is where the underdog beats the king.  We are not the king yet.

What I meant ones only way we loose is if we give them points on turnovers or make a bunch of major blunders
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: The Zipp on August 19, 2024, 03:08:42 AM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 19, 2024, 03:05:24 AMThat is the definition of a trap game, no?

Thought so and while the records aren't miles apart the current trajectories are going in opposite directions.  We are on a small winning streak and they are firing coaches in desperation and have no qb. 

This is a game based on records and recent games we should for sure win - nobody will be picking the Ticats to win.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 19, 2024, 03:10:37 AM
Quote from: The Zipp on August 19, 2024, 03:08:42 AMThought so and while the records aren't miles apart the current trajectories are going in opposite directions.  We are on a small winning streak and they are firing coaches in desperation and have no qb. 

This is a game based on records and recent games we should for sure win - nobody will be picking the Ticats to win.

Oh for sure! It can and will be billed as a trap game probably. I don't think the Bombers will fall into that mindset this year but last year's team might have.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2024, 03:10:47 AM
Quote from: The Zipp on August 19, 2024, 03:08:42 AMThought so and while the records aren't miles apart the current trajectories are going in opposite directions.  We are on a small winning streak and they are firing coaches in desperation and have no qb. 

This is a game based on records and recent games we should for sure win - nobody will be picking the Ticats to win.
Trap games are usually when the bottom beats the top

The is bottom against middle (records)

1-0 each week, hard to trap a MOS LOL
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 03:11:15 AM
At this point of the CFL season, The Ti-cats are the only "bad" team.

Everyone else has an equal opportunity moving forward (though I have my bets on certain teams to spiral).
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 19, 2024, 03:10:47 AMTrap games are usually when the bottom beats the top

The is bottom against middle (records)

1-0 each week, hard to trap a MOS LOL

Oh, we've been trapped.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 19, 2024, 03:15:08 AM
Calgary will be passed by both us and Edmonton in the standings, Sask will be tough with Harris and their D, BC is mid pack with Edmonton . East Montreal finishes on top with Ottawa and Toronto battling for home field advantage, Hamilton goes to zero with a bullet
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on August 19, 2024, 03:15:34 AM
Quote from: Jesse on August 19, 2024, 03:11:49 AMOh, we've been trapped.
Everyone has that is good.  One of problems for any dominant club.  I said it's hard to trap MOS and believe the trapping isn't in seasons lol.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 19, 2024, 03:21:50 AM
Bombers too hungry to be trapped. Offense still looking to get on track. Bombers at home with fans are very tough to beat. Hamilton is still Hamilton, they couldn't beat the sisters of the poor
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: bwiser on August 19, 2024, 03:53:37 AM
I don't see the Bombers looking ahead to the home and home against the Riders. O'Shea has this team believing that you go 1-0 each week. I don't see the Bombers approaching this game any different.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2024, 05:03:21 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 19, 2024, 02:16:18 AMPrecautionary and he was released today. It's possible they may choose to sit him if he's experiencing any side effects.

Taking headshots and coming out for a series or a game is normal.  Having after effects 1 hour later and getting ambulanced to the hospital is not.  That almost certainly means a real concussion and for that you usually keep the player out the next week.

My hunch is it'll be BLM or whoever their 3rd guy is.  With how BLM has been playing I would not be surprised if they chose the no-name.  I'd actually rather face the known quantity than a no-film risk.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2024, 05:05:18 AM
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 19, 2024, 02:23:27 AMHonestly I'd like to see BLM so we can crush him.  No chance Zach would say at the half time interview that "we are showing them who they really are" as we lay a beat down (those of you that know what I'm talking about, will know), but I would like nothing more than to see us humble BLM because I don't think he is humbled at all.

While that would be epic and lead to great roars of laughter across the league, it's unlikely... especially since someone would have to show and explain it to Zach because he wasn't here at the time!

Maybe better if some fans bring some signs...
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2024, 05:08:19 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 19, 2024, 03:02:16 AMGive it up already "who we really are!" It's stale and old news already... It's also called gamesmanship and if a Bomber was a bit cocky on a great team nobody would have an issue with it.

No.  No forgiveness for Bo for that comment IN OUR BARN ever.  None.

It's not normal gamesmanship, and in the entire 12 years since I became a rabid fan (again) I've never seen any other QB say anything close to that in an in-game interview.  Bo stands alone at that level of douchiness.

Even you had to go all the way back to Dieter to find a similar example.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: ichabod_crane on August 19, 2024, 05:23:07 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2024, 05:08:19 AMNo.  No forgiveness for Bo for that comment IN OUR BARN ever.  None.

It's not normal gamesmanship, and in the entire 12 years since I became a rabid fan (again) I've never seen any other QB say anything close to that in an in-game interview.  Bo stands alone at that level of douchiness.

Even you had to go all the way back to Dieter to find a similar example.

OK you laid down a challenge bud! :D I will comb my memory banks another day and come up with several in the CFL I'm sure. Probably many I don't know as usually these are local stories and not published in the sports news.

12 years?! :D I go back to 1980 intently following the Bombers and Hockey/CFL since 1976. Maybe even hockey back to 1972 summit series when I was only 6 years old, but I recall a few remembrances on that classic series. NFL since 1980. Baseball I have sort of given up on. NBA....maybe playoffs only or international competitions. BIRD/MAGIC/JORDAN/Detroit Bad Boys over 80's-90's the best NBA era. So you have a LOT of catching up to do man!! :) :D


IN the NHL, maybe only 10-15 years ago.....SEAN AVERY of the New York Rangers....IN A CALGARY dressing room interview after a loss to Flames....DION CAN HAVE MY SLOPPY SECONDS! THAT was truly insulting and disgraceful if you know the incident I am talking about. Total A-Hole! Been many a douche bag in various sports over the decades. Sean Avery ranks up near the top. 

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 19, 2024, 05:57:11 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 19, 2024, 05:23:07 AMOK you laid down a challenge bud! :D I will comb my memory banks another day and come up with several in the CFL I'm sure. Probably many I don't know as usually these are local stories and not published in the sports news.

To equal what BLM did to our team/fans you must find an example that was aired during or right after a game.  The equivalent to being on a TSN game broadcast or the SportsCenter pressers right after.

BLM said his infamous quote live during a halftime interview on the sidelines in our barn to the whole country on TSN.

Some obscure thing in the Regina Leader Post wouldn't count because it wasn't meant to be heard by all fans across the country.  However, hearing them too might be funny!

So maybe the "banjo picking inbreds" line might count?  Was that during a game or some other time?  However, that was by a lowly kicker, no?  Not the leader of a team QB who is held to a higher standard.

Riderfans bring that banjo quote up till this very day, and never call the game the BB in their forum (it's called "The Game After The LDC".)  So ya, that kind of outright disdain will (and should!) make that player the hated bane of the fans for all time.

You can forgive BLM all you want.  I hope they pound him into the turf next week.  I may forgive him when he hangs them up and joins TSN.  Maybe.

Riderfans have never forgiven that kicker, and he retired like 15 years ago?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 19, 2024, 07:19:48 AM
Practice week:

Monday, August 19 – Tuesday, August 20
No practice/media availability

Wednesday, August 21
Closed practice

Thursday, August 22

Walkthrough: 11:00 a.m.
Filming not permitted.

Friday, August 23
Hamilton Tiger-Cats at  Blue Bombers, 7:30 p.m. CT, Princess Auto Stadium, Winnipeg, MB
TV: TSN, CBSSN
Radio: 680 CJOB
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Pigskin on August 19, 2024, 03:45:50 PM
Would really like to see Adams back in for this game. With that said, Coach Younger has take a bunch of 1st year Bombers and turned them into a very good D unit.   

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 19, 2024, 09:49:43 PM
TiCats practiced today after one day off:

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/08/18/cfl-injury-reports-week-12/
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: BlueInCgy on August 19, 2024, 11:10:44 PM
The amount of people that are butthurt about a single comment Bo made, what, nearly a decade ago, is humorous.  All of you would have killed to have Bo as our QB at that point when Nichols was stinking out the joint.  Get over it.  Life is too short, and far worse things have been said in this league.

As far as Friday goes, the offence needs to show up fast and early.  We need to hang a 50 burger on them.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: The Zipp on August 19, 2024, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: BlueInCgy on August 19, 2024, 11:10:44 PMThe amount of people that are butthurt about a single comment Bo made, what, nearly a decade ago, is humorous.  All of you would have killed to have Bo as our QB at that point when Nichols was stinking out the joint.  Get over it.  Life is too short, and far worse things have been said in this league.

As far as Friday goes, the offence needs to show up fast and early.  We need to hang a 50 burger on them.

Would be nice to see the offence wide open with points...TD after TD...and some on defence too.  Felt bad our pick 6 got taken away
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 19, 2024, 11:53:47 PM
It was an arrogant, insulting classless statement made years ago about a franchise struggling to turn the corner from being brutal to being respectable. I for one, and it looks like I'm not alone, won't let it go. I hope fans bring signs saying ' 'C mon Bo, show us who you really are!!'

Let's see if he thinks it's funny when he's the one struggling. Classless inbred hillbilly, oh wait, that's a different player rant!! Fitting though...
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Waffler on August 20, 2024, 12:04:55 AM
I say let him sleep. Why give him the gift of motivation?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on August 20, 2024, 12:39:55 AM
The name calling above is a a little much.  Bo was very arrogant and doesn't deserve much respect but don't go do his level and be disrespectful.

Let him hear it on Friday.  I like to razz him from the upper deck.

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 01:03:14 AM
Quote from: BlueInCgy on August 19, 2024, 11:10:44 PMThe amount of people that are butthurt about a single comment Bo made, what, nearly a decade ago, is humorous.  All of you would have killed to have Bo as our QB at that point when Nichols was stinking out the joint.  Get over it.  Life is too short, and far worse things have been said in this league.

I would have liked Bo in B&G before his comment.  After that comment I would never want anything to do with him.  It's the same reason I would never want VAJ after trying to kill Biggie with a helmet: they have no honor, integrity or class.

I'll never get over it.  Get over it.

If any players are still here from that game (Fatboi, Big Stan, and ?) I hope they find a way to disrespect him in every (legal) way possible.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 01:04:15 AM
Quote from: Waffler on August 20, 2024, 12:04:55 AMI say let him sleep. Why give him the gift of motivation?

I bet he wouldn't even remember.  It would probably take some reporter bringing it up and quoting him.  Doubt it happens... TSN is grooming BLM for a panel spot and wouldn't want to rile up any fan base (or Bo).
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Big Daddy on August 20, 2024, 02:22:14 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 19, 2024, 03:02:16 AMGive it up already "who we really are!" It's stale and old news already... It's also called gamesmanship and if a Bomber was a bit cocky on a great team nobody would have an issue with it. I never had an issue with that comment and Bo was great in the Calgary community always. Never heard a bad thing ever gossiped about him. Sour grapes if you ask me if you are still carrying a grudge this long already. 

What about Dieter Brock dissing Winnipeg back in the day....NOTHING BUT THE ZOO TO SEE! :D That is much more distasteful to me, but then again I could care less in the end as he was out the door by that time. HIS opinion, not mine.
 
It is only a GAME....no one hurt outside feeble feelings. Move on.

Wow, seems I may have hit a nerve. 

Feel better now?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: J5V on August 20, 2024, 02:28:22 AM
Quote from: Big Daddy on August 20, 2024, 02:22:14 AMWow, seems I may have hit a nerve. 

Feel better now?
I'll feel better after beating him. Just win baby!
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: DM83 on August 20, 2024, 12:17:14 PM
I don't think Bo even starts. The concussed guy was deemed OK by the hospital wasn't he?

Bo's career seemed over by last year's Grey Cup, when he was in the booth. I was shocked to see him even on the field this year. As someone, here mentioned a score of a lot of points by the Bombers and few by the worst team in the CFL would seem appropriate.

Biggie seemed to get significantly hurt last game.( calf muscle again?)
Brady also got hammered, and was pulled in the end of the third? ( he seemed OK, though shaking hands after the game)

But as another poster said, Coach Younger, has got the defense flying around.i think we are just better than the Ticats personnel.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Pete on August 20, 2024, 02:22:53 PM
A lot of talk about ticats qbs, I have some concerns with our qbs specifically Streveler, isnt that 3 games in a row hes been stopped on short yardage? Twice it appears yo be footwork issues and maybe timing.
 He should be as consistant as Stevens but something's off. Even when hes in on 2nd and 3 hes not running as effectively as in the past
 Teams have no respect for his arm and unless buck has him establish that threat it will be tough.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2024, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 20, 2024, 02:22:53 PMA lot of talk about ticats qbs, I have some concerns with our qbs specifically Streveler, isnt that 3 games in a row hes been stopped on short yardage? Twice it appears yo be footwork issues and maybe timing.
 He should be as consistant as Stevens but something's off. Even when hes in on 2nd and 3 hes not running as effectively as in the past
 Teams have no respect for his arm and unless buck has him establish that threat it will be tough.

Pretty disappointed with what they've got out of Strev. this year, thought he would be busting free at least a couple of times a game for big gains, and we're half way through the season and I don't think he's had a single run over 10 yds. It also seems like he hasn't been given permission to throw the ball, if Buck wasn't going to explore his capability as the next starter, wonder why they moved away from Prukop?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 20, 2024, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2024, 03:20:34 PMPretty disappointed with what they've got out of Strev. this year, thought he would be busting free at least a couple of times a game for big gains, and we're half way through the season and I don't think he's had a single run over 10 yds. It also seems like he hasn't been given permission to throw the ball, if Buck wasn't going to explore his capability as the next starter, wonder why they moved away from Prukop?


Yup. Not only are we not getting the big trick plays, we're not even getting basic short yardage production.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2024, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 20, 2024, 03:31:41 PMYup. Not only are we not getting the big trick plays, we're not even getting basic short yardage production.

I'm guessing Strev. isn't too happy with the situation so far, if the Bombers had any cushion at all I'd be happy to see him start 2 or 3 games but that opportunity evaporated with the poor start.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2024, 03:37:11 PMI'm guessing Strev. isn't too happy with the situation so far, if the Bombers had any cushion at all I'd be happy to see him start 2 or 3 games but that opportunity evaporated with the poor start.

I never had any interest in him starting games. I just thought he'd have a cool 3rd down package and would take advantage of a hurry up offence in specific situations.

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: DM83 on August 20, 2024, 04:55:10 PM
Strev ain't a great QB.  But he is a darn good football player.

I too would love to see him run the RPO, or a form of wishbone, and lastly even as a blocking back or tight end..  just get him in space, and let him bowl people over. I mean if I can develop a package of  plays, I am sure Buck can. Lol!

Letting the road graders, with a couple extra linemen, and a Strev is heavenly.  However, that can be. Brought out in the division semi final, or Cup.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 20, 2024, 05:10:21 PM
Quote from: Jesse on August 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMI never had any interest in him starting games. I just thought he'd have a cool 3rd down package and would take advantage of a hurry up offence in specific situations.

I wonder if injuries and the ensuing struggles on offense early in the season factored into things. It seems like Pierce has kept the offense pretty simplistic to this point.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 20, 2024, 05:12:20 PM
Quote from: DM83 on August 20, 2024, 04:55:10 PMStrev ain't a great QB.  But he is a darn good football player.

I too would love to see him run the RPO, or a form of wishbone, and lastly even as a blocking back or tight end..  just get him in space, and let him bowl people over. I mean if I can develop a package of  plays, I am sure Buck can. Lol!

Letting the road graders, with a couple extra linemen, and a Strev is heavenly.  However, that can be. Brought out in the division semi final, or Cup.

Not something I want to bring out in a play off game. Do it during the regular season so opponents will have to plan for it.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: theaardvark on August 20, 2024, 05:48:51 PM
We saw Streveler trip over Bryants legs, and have troubles getting through the line.

I think its time for the "step forward, drop back" play that worked so well before.

We need Lawler of Demski on the wide out, one on one, for the jump ball on 2nd and 1.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 20, 2024, 05:54:21 PM
I like the notion of Lawler at wide out on 2nd and 1, and throw the post pattern and let him go get it.

Its unfortunate that he tripped over the O lineman's feet on the short yardage play. He needs to pick it up and he will.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: J5V on August 20, 2024, 06:20:00 PM
Strev nearly brought us all the way back in that first Calgary game and he did get us to overtime with his arm when he found Woli in the end zone. Unfortunately he threw a pick in the end zone in overtime when Demski slipped and fell down.  Point is he played very well and will do so again. His arm is underrated.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 20, 2024, 06:47:04 PM
also, the one time he didn't make it on 3rd and short, he/we got robbed due to an atrocious spot by the official.

Strevy will redeem himself, bank on it.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 20, 2024, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: J5V on August 20, 2024, 06:20:00 PMStrev nearly brought us all the way back in that first Calgary game and he did get us to overtime with his arm when he found Woli in the end zone. Unfortunately he threw a pick in the end zone in overtime when Demski slipped and fell down.  Point is he played very well and will do so again. His arm is underrated.

Nothing about Strev is underrated.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2024, 08:39:24 PM
Well, if Zach surprised all and announced he was retiring this off-season, I don't believe they would be comfortable that they have his replacement in house. Within 2 years they need to be very confident they have the next QB covered or they'll fall like a rock. The fact they've developed a QB from scratch only once in 50 odd years is unnerving for their future prospects.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 20, 2024, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2024, 08:39:24 PMWell, if Zach surprised all and announced he was retiring this off-season, I don't believe they would be comfortable that they have his replacement in house. Within 2 years they need to be very confident they have the next QB covered or they'll fall like a rock. The fact they've developed a QB from scratch only once in 50 odd years is unnerving for their future prospects.
But on the other hand, we ve developed 1 talented and upcoming Qb in the last 3 years here, and he's better than anything else any other teams have developed in that time frame. I look to see Dru brown sign with the bombers as a free agent when Collaros retires as he'd like to win a championship and he isn't going to do it in Ottawa.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 20, 2024, 09:24:01 PM
Hakunavanhu and Powell were transferred to the 6 game list today.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Pete on August 20, 2024, 10:19:44 PM
Its hard to fully evaluate Strev. I just think its been too predictable when hes on the field. Not just that you know its a running play, but its mostly him faking and running up the middle
 Every play hes in he ends up taking a lot of punishment
 Its not a recipe for success.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: J5V on August 20, 2024, 10:25:43 PM
Quote from: Pete on August 20, 2024, 10:19:44 PMIts hard to fully evaluate Strev. I just think its been too predictable when hes on the field. Not just that you know its a running play, but its mostly him faking and running up the middle
 Every play hes in he ends up taking a lot of punishment
 Its not a recipe for success.
Agree. He's already demonstrated what a tough SOB he is. Now we need to see more of Streveler the Gunslinger and don't think he can't do it. But that's up to Buck and MOS, neither of which are stupid, so I'll bet Strev has been been getting homework assignment, just in case.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 10:33:03 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 20, 2024, 09:24:01 PMHakunavanhu and Powell were transferred to the 6 game list today.

Ya, I knew that was going to happen.  You don't go to hospital in ambulance in-game if you don't have a real concussion.  Dude probably started seeing stars and throwing up 30 mins after the hit.

Weird, because it didn't look too big... not much worse than that one that knocked Zach out cold the other week.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: J5V on August 20, 2024, 10:36:16 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 10:33:03 PMYa, I knew that was going to happen.  You don't go to hospital in ambulance in-game if you don't have a real concussion.  Dude probably started seeing stars and throwing up 30 mins after the hit.

Weird, because it didn't look too big... not much worse than that one that knocked Zach out cold the other week.
When I slowed it down to 1/4 speed I thought it looked really bad. It was such a bang bang play.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 20, 2024, 03:20:34 PMPretty disappointed with what they've got out of Strev. this year, thought he would be busting free at least a couple of times a game for big gains, and we're half way through the season and I don't think he's had a single run over 10 yds. It also seems like he hasn't been given permission to throw the ball, if Buck wasn't going to explore his capability as the next starter, wonder why they moved away from Prukop?

I look at it similarly, but minus the starter stuff.

If you just wanted sneak-every-time SY then you keep Prukop.  He's better, always has been.

What you buy Strev for is to throw 25% of the time on 2nd & 1-2.  And also to do the C-gap or edge around 10% of the time on 3rd & 1.  We haven't been using him like that yet, and it's puzzling.

BUT... maybe we went Strev instead of Prukop because we knew Dru was walking.  Whatever rookie #3 (#1 backup) we were looking at was gonna suck in year 1 if Zach went down.  So Strev is a great compromise as he can be a legit (and cheap) #1 to get you .500... AND do the SY.  So for the value for the money can't be beat, and #3 gets to be an ELC.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 10:37:47 PM
So the question for HAM now is... BLM or ??.  Would they really risk starting their nobody #3 against us when they have threw-for-500Y Bo sitting there?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 20, 2024, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 20, 2024, 09:24:01 PMHakunavanhu and Powell were transferred to the 6 game list today.

Bring on Bo!
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: J5V on August 20, 2024, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 10:37:47 PMSo the question for HAM now is... BLM or ??.  Would they really risk starting their nobody #3 against us when they have threw-for-500Y Bo sitting there?
I believe we get BLM. The D will be smacking their chops in anticipation of him throwing those ducks.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 20, 2024, 11:07:28 PM
BLM won't score a point on us. Back to back shutouts at home coming up!!
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 20, 2024, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 20, 2024, 09:24:01 PMHakunavanhu and Powell were transferred to the 6 game list today.

Yikes!!! That's a surprise that both of those players are going to 6 game IR.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on August 21, 2024, 12:34:37 AM
https://3downnation.com/2024/08/20/hamilton-tiger-cats-release-american-db-kenneth-george-jr/
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 21, 2024, 12:55:53 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 20, 2024, 10:33:03 PMYa, I knew that was going to happen.  You don't go to hospital in ambulance in-game if you don't have a real concussion.  Dude probably started seeing stars and throwing up 30 mins after the hit.

Weird, because it didn't look too big... not much worse than that one that knocked Zach out cold the other week.

Powell looked fully cognisant when he was trying to get himself back into the game, but he obviously failed the concussion test if they placed him on the 6-game IR.  It must have been noted in the game day thread but it was extremely dumb of him not to slide once targeted by 3 vicious defenders.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Jesse on August 21, 2024, 01:04:19 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 20, 2024, 11:20:04 PMYikes!!! That's a surprise that both of those players are going to 6 game IR.

I mean, when you're carted off the field, I feel like it's more likely than not.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2024, 05:28:46 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 21, 2024, 12:55:53 AMPowell looked fully cognisant when he was trying to get himself back into the game, but he obviously failed the concussion test if they placed him on the 6-game IR.  It must have been noted in the game day thread but it was extremely dumb of him not to slide once targeted by 3 vicious defenders.

Ya, that's often normal too.  They take the hit, see stars for 5-20s, get up and feel like a million bucks.  So he went into the tent after they yanked him, and came out 10 mins later and looked angry he was being held out.

THEN... 30-90 minutes later your start feeling the real effects.  That's when they walked him to the locker room.  I bet it went downhill from there, hence the ambulance ride to the hospital and the 6G.  He's probably happy that they kept him out... now.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: jayrock on August 21, 2024, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 19, 2024, 03:04:39 AMNo trap, a great team playing a terrible one.  We are at home, we can only loose by beating ourselves.

great team? 4-6 makes a team great? If you win out the rest of the season then you will be good. But great? That lands right up there with "better then our record".

There is only one stand out team in the league right now and that is Montreal. The easy east no longer exists as of right now. All the teams in the west are just doing enough to stay in the hunt. Even good old Edmonton is putting up their hand to remind everyone in the west they are here.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 21, 2024, 02:31:20 PM
Quote from: jayrock on August 21, 2024, 02:27:46 PMgreat team? 4-6 makes a team great? If you win out the rest of the season then you will be good. But great? That lands right up there with "better then our record".

There is only one stand out team in the league right now and that is Montreal. The easy east no longer exists as of right now. All the teams in the west are just doing enough to stay in the hunt. Even good old Edmonton is putting up their hand to remind everyone in the west they are here.

The ingredients to a great team are there. If the Bombers can find a way to break out the offense then no one is going to want to play them down the stretch. That's a big *if* but it's not like they haven't figured it out before. 

I would also argue that we are better than our record or at least better than the 0-4 team that started the year. We're 4-2 since July 12. That feels about right.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Go_Big_D on August 21, 2024, 02:46:57 PM
dont the ticats have Taulia Tagovailoa on PR?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 21, 2024, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: jayrock on August 21, 2024, 02:27:46 PMgreat team? 4-6 makes a team great? If you win out the rest of the season then you will be good. But great? That lands right up there with "better then our record".

You're not watching this team closely enough if all you're looking at is the W-L record.

But since you mentioned it: after going 0-4, they're 4-2 (better than any other division opponent).
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: pdirks67 on August 21, 2024, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: jayrock on August 21, 2024, 02:27:46 PMgreat team? 4-6 makes a team great? If you win out the rest of the season then you will be good. But great? That lands right up there with "better then our record".

There is only one stand out team in the league right now and that is Montreal. The easy east no longer exists as of right now. All the teams in the west are just doing enough to stay in the hunt. Even good old Edmonton is putting up their hand to remind everyone in the west they are here.

Fair comment. Great Defense + OK Offense = Good (not great). Hamilton is just so bad right now that they'd need help from any other CFL opponent to win a game. Hopefully we don't fall into the trap of giving them that help.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: theaardvark on August 21, 2024, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: jayrock on August 21, 2024, 02:27:46 PMgreat team? 4-6 makes a team great? If you win out the rest of the season then you will be good. But great? That lands right up there with "better then our record".

There is only one stand out team in the league right now and that is Montreal. The easy east no longer exists as of right now. All the teams in the west are just doing enough to stay in the hunt. Even good old Edmonton is putting up their hand to remind everyone in the west they are here.

4-6, but the lowest points against of any team, bar none, even teams with only 9 games played.

18 fewer points allowed than the next lowest, the 9-1 Als.

Defence wins championships.

Only 1 1 score win, 4 1 score losses.  We could easily be 7-3.

Regardless, 2 game decisive win streak against division rival.  First with leading MOP contender Adams at the helm, kept him off the board, and then the return of "The Chosen One", highest paid player in the CFL in recent history, holding him to a FG until he was pulled in garbage time.

In a "what have you done for me lately" league, we've done ALOT of late.

Its too bad for you that SSK is coming up on our schedule.

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 21, 2024, 05:11:52 PM
TiCats are mistake prone. Penalties and turnovers hurt them every game. Overall their defence is very bad and their offence has issues as well.

If we limit our mistakes we should have a distinct advantage. BLM is not going to be a threat as a runner. Pressure him and he'll throw up some int.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: pdirks67 on August 21, 2024, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2024, 05:11:52 PMTiCats are mistake prone. Penalties and turnovers hurt them every game. Overall their defence is very bad and their offence has issues as well.

If we limit our mistakes we should have a distinct advantage. BLM is not going to be a threat as a runner. Pressure him and he'll throw up some int.

I have no stats to support it, but it sure seems like we've been blitzing less lately and dropping more guys into coverage? And it seems like it's been working. I'd be tempted to just rush 3 and let him throw the picks.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: dd on August 21, 2024, 05:32:24 PM
We're the hottest team in the league right now, trending in the right direction. Secondary is ferocious, offense is improving. Hamilton is the opposite, their secondary is gross, their offense is offensive to watch.  This game shouldn't be close at all
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: DM83 on August 21, 2024, 05:51:00 PM
Bo is a great QB, like many in the league. Giving him time to throw is what he needs.
Put pressure on him is when he throws picks.
In recent games,bombers have brought the heat, and we have succeeded.
The D line has found ways to pressure, an the occasional extra couple guy has pressured the QB.

I am greatly surprised and appreciative of our defensive philosophy and play of those last three games. Congrats to Younger and Hall and the players. The Defense has really picked it up.

I look forward to the Bombers shutting down Bo.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 21, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on August 21, 2024, 05:30:03 PMI have no stats to support it, but it sure seems like we've been blitzing less lately and dropping more guys into coverage? And it seems like it's been working. I'd be tempted to just rush 3 and let him throw the picks.

Adams is a QB that looks for the deep big play and that takes time to develop. However, more DB's in coverage panics him.

Rourke was rusty as they come and we gave him different looks that confused him while still generating pressure.

BLM has more experience and can sustain long drives without needing the big play. I'm not as impressed with his receivers than the Lions as an example.

In that sense, I'd send pressure more often since he doesn't have the legs of Adams or Rourke. Jefferson, Haba and Garbutt could have a field day.

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: blue_gold_84 on August 21, 2024, 08:21:54 PM
I'm expecting another big game by the defense. On offense, a balanced and clean effort should do the trick, especially if the defense can generate a few takeaways.

It'd be nice to see Whitehead pop off a nice return or two as well.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Pigskin on August 21, 2024, 09:08:19 PM
So Younger has our D dialed in right now. But, how about the job the GOAT, Mike Miller has done with our teams. First year coach, who has had to deal with a lot of injuries and keeps finding players who have bought in to his style of of play. 
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 21, 2024, 09:28:17 PM
Transactions:

2024-08-21   WPG   Adams, Devin   DT   A   Peru State College   ADD FROM PRACTICE ROSTER   Game Roster
2024-08-21   WPG   KARAMOKO, Souleymane   DB   G   Laval   TRF TO PRACTICE ROSTER   Practice Roster
2024-08-21   WPG   SCHMEKEL, Tanner   DL   N   Regina   TRF TO PRACTICE ROSTER   Practice Roster
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 21, 2024, 09:31:04 PM
CFL Injury Reports, Week 12: Bighill doubtful vs. Tiger-Cats

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/08/18/cfl-injury-reports-week-12/
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 21, 2024, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 21, 2024, 09:28:17 PMTransactions:

2024-08-21    WPG    Adams, Devin    DT    A    Peru State College    ADD FROM PRACTICE ROSTER    Game Roster
2024-08-21    WPG    KARAMOKO, Souleymane    DB    G    Laval    TRF TO PRACTICE ROSTER    Practice Roster
2024-08-21    WPG    SCHMEKEL, Tanner    DL    N    Regina    TRF TO PRACTICE ROSTER    Practice Roster


The good news is that we're adding back Adams. The bad news is who is coming off ( Bighill possibly ).

The other two transactions are a little more curious.

Karamoko can only be replaced by another Global or a Canadian. Schemkel is coming off that leads me to suggest we're adding in Samson. Remote possibility would be Chris-Ike.

So where does that leave us with the Global alternative? Weitz in order to beef up depth at LB due to the chance Bighill doesn't dress? Listing him as doubtful doesn't mean much but means maybe? The other transactions give more weight to that happening.

Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on August 21, 2024, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 21, 2024, 09:31:04 PMCFL Injury Reports, Week 12: Bighill doubtful vs. Tiger-Cats

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/08/18/cfl-injury-reports-week-12/
This was expected. Tony "TONNNNNEH" Jones I think is a good fill in.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Pete on August 21, 2024, 10:18:42 PM
good to see Adams back in huge upgrade over Smeckle, hopefully CHris Ike could draw in and Ogbevoen, Rostering Samson might be only alternative although he would get few reps
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Pigskin on August 21, 2024, 10:21:37 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2024, 09:36:29 PMThe good news is that we're adding back Adams. The bad news is who is coming off ( Bighill possibly ).

The other two transactions are a little more curious.

Karamoko can only be replaced by another Global or a Canadian. Schemkel is coming off that leads me to suggest we're adding in Samson. Remote possibility would be Chris-Ike.

So where does that leave us with the Global alternative? Weitz in order to beef up depth at LB due to the chance Bighill doesn't dress? Listing him as doubtful doesn't mean much but means maybe? The other transactions give more weight to that happening.



The Bombers have LB, Weitz on the PR  or Lucky O, will come off the 6 game.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blueforlife on August 21, 2024, 10:34:22 PM
Quote from: jayrock on August 21, 2024, 02:27:46 PMgreat team? 4-6 makes a team great? If you win out the rest of the season then you will be good. But great? That lands right up there with "better then our record".

There is only one stand out team in the league right now and that is Montreal. The easy east no longer exists as of right now. All the teams in the west are just doing enough to stay in the hunt. Even good old Edmonton is putting up their hand to remind everyone in the west they are here.
I believe the Bombers are a great team with a bad record.  That is all.  Yes Montreal is exceptional.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2024, 11:30:26 PM
Quote from: jayrock on August 21, 2024, 02:27:46 PMgreat team? 4-6 makes a team great? If you win out the rest of the season then you will be good. But great? That lands right up there with "better then our record".

You need to read your own forum threads... lots of SSK fans getting antsy right about now about WPG once again becoming strong.  And lots of angst about SSK's 1-win-in-5-games problems.

I'm not sure about "great", but it seems clear WPG is reverting to the expected mean, as is SSK.

If When WPG's O gets going, I would be truly scared if I were any other team in the league.  For SSK: they need to see if they can break out of this funk, otherwise it'll be another Dickenson The Lesser season ending splat.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2024, 11:33:33 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on August 21, 2024, 03:29:32 PMFair comment. Great Defense + OK Offense = Good (not great)

Yup.  The funny thing is, we put no money in our D, and our D looked awful on paper in PS, and we had no faith in our D: but here we are with a D lighting up the league!

Younger (and Hall) have truly pulled off a miracle.

Our O, maybe the most expensive in the league, has to start clicking at some point.  It just has to.  They have all the money and big names, AND a great Buck to guide them.  They need to start playing up to their contracts.  When that happens, it's lights out for every other team, even MTL!
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2024, 11:35:46 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on August 21, 2024, 09:08:19 PMBut, how about the job the GOAT, Mike Miller has done with our teams. First year coach, who has had to deal with a lot of injuries and keeps finding players who have bought in to his style of of play.

So it was Boo all along... Boo gets the boot and our ST coverage goes from league-worst to (I'm guessing) near-league-best.  Even more proof is Boo only lasted a few weeks in HAM before they realized he was ruining things, and then got the boot there even though it probably screws them on the coaches cap.

Miller has been awesome, and repaid the faith that MOS/KW placed in him.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: The Zipp on August 21, 2024, 11:36:29 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2024, 11:30:26 PMYou need to read your own forum threads... lots of SSK fans getting antsy right about now about WPG once again becoming strong.  And lots of angst about SSK's 1-win-in-5-games problems.

I'm not sure about "great", but it seems clear WPG is reverting to the expected mean, as is SSK.

If When WPG's O gets going, I would be truly scared if I were any other team in the league.  For SSK: they need to see if they can break out of this funk, otherwise it'll be another Dickenson The Lesser season ending splat.

Riderfans board is a cesspool - not surprised if Jayrock doesn't visit there much
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 21, 2024, 11:36:48 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on August 21, 2024, 09:36:29 PMSo where does that leave us with the Global alternative? Weitz in order to beef up depth at LB due to the chance Bighill doesn't dress? Listing him as doubtful doesn't mean much but means maybe? The other transactions give more weight to that happening.

Makes you wish we retained Maruo, eh?  He almost certainly would be starting this week if Biggie is out.  Can't even couch-snipe him, either, as some other team already did.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Blue In BC on August 21, 2024, 11:55:30 PM
Quote from: Pigskin on August 21, 2024, 10:21:37 PMThe Bombers have LB, Weitz on the PR  or Lucky O, will come off the 6 game.

We don't need a 2nd Global but choose to dress one recently. That may more of a factor of so many Canadians injured at the moment. Taking " Lucky " off the IR early would mean his SMS would count, so I don't know that makes sense. He only played part of 1 game?

Weitz is a couple of inches shorter and a little lighter. We haven't seen what he can do but is he the best player we can add?

As I mentioned maybe Samson gets added instead of a global. Not exactly a lot of choices on the PR and no realistic chance of any 6 game IR coming off IMO.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 22, 2024, 12:10:57 AM
The team could also decide to dress 44 instead of 45. I think that would be last option as they could just roster Weitz as the 45th player and have him help on special teams.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 22, 2024, 01:11:29 AM
Winnipeg Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers
Injury Report: August 21, 2024

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVi73e3WkAA5MjB?format=jpg&name=small)

Ogbevoen and Chris-Ike have both been on the 6 game list for 4 games.

They are now allowed to practice so that's why they show up on the injury report.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: peg_city on August 22, 2024, 01:16:37 AM
I'm assuming bighill will be back for Labour Day?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 22, 2024, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 22, 2024, 01:11:29 AMWinnipeg Blue Bombers   @Wpg_BlueBombers
Injury Report: August 21, 2024

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVi73e3WkAA5MjB?format=jpg&name=small)

Ogbevoen and Chris-Ike have both been on the 6 game list for 4 games.

They are now allowed to practice so that's why they show up on the injury report.

Theoretically they could be pulled and played this week if the team wanted to (and took the corresponding sms hit).
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2024, 01:38:08 AM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 21, 2024, 09:28:17 PMTransactions:

2024-08-21   WPG   Adams, Devin   DT   A   Peru State College   ADD FROM PRACTICE ROSTER   Game Roster
2024-08-21   WPG   KARAMOKO, Souleymane   DB   G   Laval   TRF TO PRACTICE ROSTER   Practice Roster
2024-08-21   WPG   SCHMEKEL, Tanner   DL   N   Regina   TRF TO PRACTICE ROSTER   Practice Roster


I don't think Schmeckel has gotten a fair shake this year, he looked great in pre-season but has been getting very few reps. ever since. Love me some Jake but his time as a starter is expiring fast.  Restrict Schmekel from participating and sure enough he'll go home to Sask. in the offseason and put up a long career playing for his home team, ala Brenden Labatte.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on August 22, 2024, 02:10:09 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 22, 2024, 01:38:08 AMI don't think Schmeckel has gotten a fair shake this year, he looked great in pre-season but has been getting very few reps. ever since. Love me some Jake but his time as a starter is expiring fast.  Restrict Schmekel from participating and sure enough he'll go home to Sask. in the offseason and put up a long career playing for his home team, ala Brenden Labatte.

I think the opposite. He got a lot of opportunity this year (way more than he would of otherwise got) the moment Lawson went down. He's basically played himself to the practice roster with two tackles in 10 games.

There is no way he'd be rostered in Regina with their four American starters along the defensive line and no Canadians anywhere near the interior. If he goes there to play, I know where to run.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 22, 2024, 04:45:13 AM
Quote from: gobombersgo on August 22, 2024, 12:10:57 AMThe team could also decide to dress 44 instead of 45. I think that would be last option as they could just roster Weitz as the 45th player and have him help on special teams.

I think the team really tries to fill the roster whenever possible because at the minimum that gets some guy a game cheque.  It's good for player morale.
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: TecnoGenius on August 22, 2024, 04:46:37 AM
Anyone notice: Haku and Ternowski both out... who do they have left for NAT WR?  Or do they dress +1 IMP and shuffle the ratio?
Title: Re: Hamilton at Winnipeg - pregame discussion
Post by: gobombersgo on August 22, 2024, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 22, 2024, 04:46:37 AMAnyone notice: Haku and Ternowski both out... who do they have left for NAT WR?  Or do they dress +1 IMP and shuffle the ratio?

Yeah, looks like they will need to start an extra Canadian DB or DL as they will be starting an extra American receiver.

I can see them taking advantage on the Designated Nationalized American rule. Someone should be watching them though as they have been caught before not fielding enough Canadians.