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Go ahead and rank them in order below.

Good post...i picked Dolegala as worst...bit hard as we haven't seen much of some of these.  My VERY quick rank of best to worst:

Patterson (could swap Alexander here...I believe these 2 are 1 and 1a)
Alexander
MBT
Strev
Dukes
Powell
Stevens - haven't seen much of him apart from sneaks
Crum
Dolegala

Quote from: The Zipp on August 12, 2024, 07:11:11 PMGood post...i picked Dolegala as worst...bit hard as we haven't seen much of some of these.  My VERY quick rank of best to worst:

Patterson (could swap Alexander here...I believe these 2 are 1 and 1a)
Alexander
MBT
Strev
Dukes
Powell
Stevens - haven't seen much of him apart from sneaks
Crum
Dolegala

I changed Stevens to Shiltz. Stevens isn't even 2nd on the depth chart in Calgary (much to my surprise).  The player who is 2nd on the depth chart is someone who I have never heard of.

I agree with Crum and Dolegala being dead last.

Ranked worst 2nd String QB

Stevens - Worst
Crum
Dolegala
Powell
Streveler
MBT
Dukes
Patterson
Alexander - Best

Stevens - Worst 2nd string best 3rd string
Crum
Dolegala
Dukes
Streveler
Patterson
MBT
Powell (he reminds me of the situation with Jones/MBT at beginning of year)
Alexander - Best

Depends what you mean "worst". Do you mean who is most/least likely to develop into a starter or do you mean someone who best fills the short yardage role and can win a game or two if they need to start right now?

Streveler and Stevens are at the top of the latter list and near the bottom of the former.

• BC  - Jake Dolegala
• OTT - Dustin Crum
• EDM - McLeod Bethel-Thompson
• CAL - Matthew Shiltz (Injured)
• SSK - Shea Patterson
• HAM - Taylor Powell
• TOR - Cameron Dukes
• MTL - Davis Alexander
• WPG - Chris Streveler

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 12, 2024, 09:46:00 PMDepends what you mean "worst". Do you mean who is most/least likely to develop into a starter or do you mean someone who best fills the short yardage role and can win a game or two if they need to start right now?

Streveler and Stevens are at the top of the latter list and near the bottom of the former.

Best qb to win you 4-6 games when the starter goes down and shows promise as a starter.

I think the criteria would be all of the above. Who would you want (regardless of offensive system) to be our teams back-up.

Streveler can't read a defense, but he's also the best short yardage quarterback I've seen in this league. Both of those should be factored into the calculation. As a result, I have him middle of the pack.

Worst
1. Dolegala
2. Crum
3. Powell
4. Shiltz
5. Daisy Dukes
6. Chris Streveler
7. Shea Patterson
8. MBT
9. Alexander
Best

3-6 are really interchangeable. Powell might be number 6 in a few weeks.

Gotcha. I'll go something like this (best to worst):

EDM - McLeod Bethel-Thompson
MTL - Davis Alexander
SSK - Shea Patterson
TOR - Cameron Dukes
HAM - Taylor Powell
WPG - Chris Streveler
BC  - Jake Dolegala
OTT - Dustin Crum
CAL - Matthew Shiltz (Injured)

I'd take Alexander as best #2 Qb right now, and most capable of becoming #1. Patterson and MBT are decent #2's, the rest will never become #1 Qb, they just don't have it.

Quote from: dd on August 12, 2024, 11:56:23 PMI'd take Alexander as best #2 Qb right now, and most capable of becoming #1. Patterson and MBT are decent #2's, the rest will never become #1 Qb, they just don't have it.

Too early to claim the rest will never become a starter.  Long road ahead yes, never say never, also yes.

Alexander has shown very well but small sample size.  Shea needs seasoning.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 12, 2024, 11:39:27 PMGotcha. I'll go something like this (best to worst):

EDM - McLeod Bethel-Thompson
MTL - Davis Alexander
SSK - Shea Patterson
TOR - Cameron Dukes
HAM - Taylor Powell
WPG - Chris Streveler
BC  - Jake Dolegala
OTT - Dustin Crum
CAL - Matthew Shiltz (Injured)

I could live with that...our thirds are the same just bit different order. 

Quote from: Ridermania on August 12, 2024, 07:17:18 PMPatterson

I'd bet money that Patterson will not be getting a #1 legit out-of-FA starting gig in the next 3 years.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 13, 2024, 06:19:47 AMI'd bet money that Patterson will not be getting a #1 legit out-of-FA starting gig in the next 3 years.

I dunno, I think he's better than anything Hamilton has to offer right now. Also, I'd take him over Jake Maier who continues to struggle with consistency

Best backup is now VAJ

Quote from: The Zipp on August 13, 2024, 06:36:29 PMBest backup is now VAJ

Went from the worst to the best.

Interesting that Streveler is picked at # 4 worst.

I guess Masoli has moved up to #2 in Ottawa, ahead of Crum. He might still have some gas in the tank.

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 13, 2024, 11:06:59 PMInteresting that Streveler is picked at # 4 worst.

Strev will get you .500 consistently no problem, as long as he's not injured.  Like Tre Ford, that's hard to sustain over a full season.

.500 is basically the best you can ask of a backup who is not bound for a #1 spot in the next FA.

I'd have no problems rolling with Strev if Zach goes down a while, but praying it doesn't come to that.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 14, 2024, 07:57:50 AMStrev will get you .500 consistently no problem, as long as he's not injured.  Like Tre Ford, that's hard to sustain over a full season.

.500 is basically the best you can ask of a backup who is not bound for a #1 spot in the next FA.

I'd have no problems rolling with Strev if Zach goes down a while, but praying it doesn't come to that.

If Collaros gets injured, I'm assuming Walters will go after MBT or BLM.

Quote from: peg_city on August 14, 2024, 12:08:05 PMIf Collaros gets injured, I'm assuming Walters will go after MBT or BLM.

I'd just roll with Streveler this year and bank the savings for next year's run but that's just me.

.500 makes the playoffs, and you take it from there.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 14, 2024, 07:57:50 AMStrev will get you .500 consistently no problem, as long as he's not injured.  Like Tre Ford, that's hard to sustain over a full season.

.500 is basically the best you can ask of a backup who is not bound for a #1 spot in the next FA.

I'd have no problems rolling with Strev if Zach goes down a while, but praying it doesn't come to that.

I think the difference is that Strev is a runner who can throw if you absolutely need him to. While Ford is a QB who has excellent movement skills. I think Ford still has a lot of upside as a mobile QB, while Strev is a great piece for special situations and packages.

I don't even see Strev as a true second string QB. He's more than that, and less at the same time.

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 13, 2024, 06:19:47 AMI'd bet money that Patterson will not be getting a #1 legit out-of-FA starting gig in the next 3 years.

And I will say that Patterson will be the starter in Regina as they will not keep 39 year old Harris next year.

Seeing as how dolegala was cut by the Lions, the surveys says strev is the worst #2 Qb in the league, and that is a vote amongst bomber fans, yikes!! A couple of missed 3 rd down conversions and his stock takes a big hit

Quote from: bluebeard on August 15, 2024, 01:28:55 AMAnd I will say that Patterson will be the starter in Regina as they will not keep 39 year old Harris next year.

Depends on if T.Harris returns and lights things up and leads them deep into the playoffs.  Then he stays.  If he comes back and gets injured again and basically screws up their whole season, he's gone, ya.

But, to your point, if they ditch Trevor in FA, no way Patterson is the guy.  No way.  I'll bet money on that.  They will go out and chase down MBT or Alexander or Masoli or VAJ.  No one comes out of FA'25 with Patterson their #1 QB on purpose.

Maybe in 3 years.  But not in '25.

Quote from: pdirks67 on August 14, 2024, 02:47:12 PMI don't even see Strev as a true second string QB. He's more than that, and less at the same time.

True dat.  Pithy.

However, Strev see himself as a true CFL #2... and a true #1!  Belief can go a long way.  I think Strev is like Rourke: when he's coming in as the #1 (due to injury), people get excited.  No one has any idea what to expect.

Quote from: dd on August 15, 2024, 03:47:59 AMSeeing as how dolegala was cut by the Lions, the surveys says strev is the worst #2 Qb in the league, and that is a vote amongst bomber fans, yikes!! A couple of missed 3 rd down conversions and his stock takes a big hit

I'm thinking that most of the Dolegala votes would go to Crum

Dolegala is now relegated to the sidelines looking on, along with Cornelius and Mason Fine. Not sure any of the 3 will ever be picked up.

Paterson might get Dru Browned.  If Harris can put up good numbers,and they are put in the situation we found ourselves in last year with Collaros / Brown, do they stay with Harris?

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 15, 2024, 03:44:08 PMDolegala is now relegated to the sidelines looking on, along with Cornelius and Mason Fine. Not sure any of the 3 will ever be picked up.

Pipkin, Pigrome, Corenlius, Fine, Dolegala... so many couches, so many players... 

You know who is out there I'd like to see actually try the CFL?  Case Cookus from the UFL.  Looks like he was once an ELk for a cup of coffee, not sure if he ever joined the team...

Quote from: peg_city on August 15, 2024, 03:08:42 PMI'm thinking that most of the Dolegala votes would go to Crum

That's what I thought to begin with. I didn't think Jake was that bad really as a #2 and now he's out of a job. Heck I'd start him in Hamilton right now vs the Qbs they have there now