Thinking about the crossover so I guess go Als?
I am kinda enjoying seeing BLM have success - he is a CFL legend so it is nice to see him do well, dude hasn't given up and is still putting in the work.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 02, 2024, 10:47:09 PMI am kinda enjoying seeing BLM have success - he is a CFL legend so it is nice to see him do well, dude hasn't given up and is still putting in the work.
I hated his cocky bitt attitude when he was younger but he is acceptable now.
Hey Lapo put yer mic on! ;D
What a bone headed play by the Ticats procedure call knocks them out of field goal range, you know the snap count, just hold your stance man!! High school blunder
Alexander back to earth
Alexander NOT the second coming...
Nice drive so far for him
Can't judge a young QB until he has played a couple seasons
Nice TD throw and catch, rough start, nice response
What a bad call, down by contact?? The guy was 3 ft off the ground when the ball came out!!!
Why did they not challenge that???
Just horrible officiating.
Nice arm steength
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 12:37:20 AMJust horrible officiating.
the not a fumble call?
astounding. ref standing right there.
they have to fix this.
and yeah why not challenge? odd .
Was a **** show Proulx. **** show!
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 12:37:20 AMJust horrible officiating.
It's really been extra bad this year.
Good to see there's other teams getting screwed over but still, you just want to get it right,
why didn't command centre step in and correct the obvious wrong call made on the field. Or why couldn't the Als challenge it, Maas knew it was the wrong call, he was livid. It's just so bush league
Officiating is getting worse as the season goes on.
Randy needs to say something.
Lots of F bombs on TV :D
Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 12:35:42 AMWhat a bad call, down by contact?? The guy was 3 ft off the ground when the ball came out!!!
Why did they not challenge that???
Was that call not challengeable? I wasn't paying full attention and next thing I know, the Ticats are snapping the ball. Did they actually decide not to challenge?
You know, there isn't a team in this league that scares me. But I'll tell you this, with our defense, we definitely are putting some fear in the other teams. If we can shore up our Oline and start clicking on offense, we can become the beasts we were the last four or five seasons.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 03, 2024, 12:43:45 AMOfficiating is getting worse as the season goes on.
Randy needs to say something.
League never does or says anything. Pathetic.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 03, 2024, 12:44:37 AMLots of F bombs on TV :D
With the bad officiating we re seeing, no wonder!!
Boo serves up some duck
Quote from: The Zipp on August 03, 2024, 12:43:45 AMOfficiating is getting worse as the season goes on.
Randy needs to say something.
I actually thought that CFL officiating had steadily improved over the last 4-5 years and had gotten pretty good last year. No one's perfect and mistakes will always be made. But the mistakes had become smaller and less frequent. This year - WHAT IS GOING ON???!!!!
Is it weird that Bo Levi looks about as good as a guy making his first real start?
What was that from BLM? Terrible throw for a pick.
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 12:45:08 AMYou know, there isn't a team in this league that scares me. But I'll tell you this, with our defense, we definitely are putting some fear in the other teams. If we can shore up our Oline and start clicking on offense, we can become the beasts we were the last four or five seasons.
Agreed. Teams that have already played us and don't play us again are thankful they played us before we got things straightened out. Brighter days lay ahead f us!!
Tim White either screwed up or BLM screwed up.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 03, 2024, 12:43:45 AMOfficiating is getting worse as the season goes on.
Randy needs to say something.
he needs to do something.
are these actually the best refs they can get?
Proulx doin a great job controlling this game. Loser this year.
Akexnder needs to do up his chin strap.
What happened to Cote? He got the boot?
Milt is letting the officials have it
Dunigan agrees
Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 12:47:40 AMAgreed. Teams that have already played us and don't play us again are thankful they played us before we got things straightened out. Brighter days lay ahead f us!!
I'd love to get a rematch with either the Argos or the Als in a Grey Cup. Als defense is good. But in the West, I'm not seeing another defense like ours. Riders maybe, but the next two games against them will answer a lot of questions.
Well the question is, what is the CC looking at? As Milt said, they're supposed to fix this. Just bizarre. Something is wrong.
Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 12:43:33 AMIt's really been extra bad this year.
Good to see there's other teams getting screwed over but still, you just want to get it right,
why didn't command centre step in and correct the obvious wrong call made on the field. Or why couldn't the Als challenge it, Maas knew it was the wrong call, he was livid. It's just so bush league
You nailed it. The CC has to over rule the officials on that play. Why didn't they?
Bo throw another duck?
what did milt say?
always good watching Bo stink it up.
Nice deep ball there and catch
BLM is floating the ball. He doesn't have the arm he once did.
Nice pick
Bad Bo today
Duck duck goose
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 01:03:10 AMYou nailed it. The CC has to over rule the officials on that play. Why didn't they?
That was definitely a time to evoke the "step in" rule. It was an egregiously bad call. As a matter of fact, I think it was the worst call I can ever remember seeing.
Lucky ducky no pick
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 01:34:51 AMBLM is floating the ball. He doesn't have the arm he once did.
I think it's time for him to move on, or the cfl to move on from him.
Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 01:51:11 AMI think it's time for him to move on, or the cfl to move on from him.
He is having a decent year, disagree
Alexander will be a star one day
Tools are there
Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 01:49:52 AMThat was definitely a time to evoke the "step in" rule. It was an egregiously bad call. As a matter of fact, I think it was the worst call I can ever remember seeing.
Now that I think about more, maybe they can't reverse a "no immediate recovery" ruling. They should be able to though.
O no Sayles killed him
Should be an ejection and fine
25 yard ok fair
Sayles should be tossed for that
25 yarder though - huge
Sayles still in the game. WTH?
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 03, 2024, 01:55:44 AMHe is having a decent year, disagree
Decent isn't good enough anymore. The bar has been set higher. What starting quarterback is he better than right now? And no, he's not better than Maier.
Montreal proving they are the real deal
Nice touch on ball for Evans for major
Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 02:06:16 AMDecent isn't good enough anymore. The bar has been set higher. What starting quarterback is he better than right now? And no, he's not better than Maier.
His numbers are good and he is having a decent year and the suggestion to move away from him is a little much, simple case of pile on during a bad game imo
5 TD last game. Yeah he sucks lol. Short memory.
I thought Prioux was bad in the game he officiated on us This game is just as bad....is it him or the other officials on his team?
The command center is a joke
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 03, 2024, 02:07:46 AMHis numbers are good and he is having a decent year and the suggestion to move away from him is a little much, simple case of pile on during a bad game imo
5 TD last game. Yeah he sucks lol. Short memory.
Did I say he sucks??
what has to happen for a player to be ejected?
rip someones arm off and chew on it?
man this ref crew is awful.
Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 02:10:27 AMDid I say he sucks??
You suggested he moves on or the CFL move on from him which I disagree with.
Moving on from a player isn't an endorsement of his play.
Did you say he doesn't suck lol
Nice deep ball but double coverage
Quote from: The Zipp on August 03, 2024, 02:06:20 AMMontreal proving they are the real deal
Yes they are, although, it is Hamilton.
another hanging ball
Nice TD
Alexander back which is great
Peters looks hurt bad
Evans now hurt wow blew his knee?
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 03, 2024, 02:25:37 AMEvans now hurt wow blew his knee?
Awkward stop/slide attempt
That stinks
Peters might be charly horse but Evans noncontact looks worse
Maccocia loves his backpack :D
This officiating is just awful.
Dirty play to take his leg out like that
Alexander has a limp
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 03, 2024, 01:55:44 AMHe is having a decent year, disagree
BLM is doing remarkably well but I think he's getting by on smarts and experience. There is no zip on his ball at all and when he does try to throw a rocket it comes out wobbly and inaccurate. I just don't think he's got the arm for it any more.
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 02:42:29 AMBLM is doing remarkably well but I think he's getting by on smarts and experience. There is no zip on his ball at all and when he does try to throw a rocket it comes out wobbly and inaccurate. I just don't think he's got the arm for it any more.
His injury from years ago set him back
Quote from: Blueforlife on August 03, 2024, 03:21:11 AMHis injury from years ago set him back
Agreed. We saw this with Travis Lulay as well and as I recall, he came back also but was never the same and eventually hung them up. The big CFL field requires a QB with good arm strength.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 02, 2024, 11:08:32 PMI hated his cocky bitt attitude when he was younger but he is acceptable now.
Hey Lapo put yer mic on! ;D
COCKY or ASSERTIVE/CONFIDENT?....a fine line. I never felt he was arrogant. Maybe to some people he came across that way. I WANT A CONFIDENT QB any day who is willing to do whatever to WIN! :)
He bid his time in Calgary behind Henry Burris and the other guy (Tate) who went no place great. Then when he got his chance he shined almost immediately. Lost the GC showdown with Henry, but that was like a miracle game for Burris. Bo probably should have started even before he was official starter.
When you are a WINNER others get jealous! ;) Thought he was washed up prior to this season, but he still has some life yet although on a terrible Cats team. Only a shade above pathetic Edmonton!
Quote from: The Zipp on August 03, 2024, 02:04:39 AMSayles should be tossed for that
25 yarder though - huge
He should have been ejected for that hit. Late, high and helmet to helmet.
RE: The Fumble:
How was that not 'clear recovery after a fumble'? (Note that the rule book says clear not immediate)
The fumble was an absolute embarrassment to the officials. Totally screwed the play up. I don't know how the officials rstionalize what they did out there but that was a disgrace, an absolute incompetent disgrace
Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 03:44:14 PMThe fumble was an absolute embarrassment to the officials. Totally screwed the play up. I don't know how the officials rstionalize what they did out there but that was a disgrace, an absolute incompetent disgrace
Just wait until they cost a team a playoff berth or even worse, a playoff win. Maybe then, finally, this league will do something about this bush league garbage.
Since we are all fans of CFL football it is an embarrassment to all of us. I can't imagine what our neighbours to the South think of that incompetence. Just embarrassing.
8x ---
As the Head of CFL Officiating,
Glen Johnson's role involves overseeing the league's officiating department, including:
- Implementing and enforcing league rules and regulations
- Developing and refining officiating procedures and protocols
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Providing guidance and training to on-field officials- Collaborating with the CFL Rules Committee to propose and implement rule changes aimed at enhancing player safety and improving game flow
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Nobody can understand what proulx was thinking on that play, and the scary part is, he's the ref in charge of the crew!! How is it command centre couldn't interject and correct the blunder??
Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 03:57:25 PMNobody can understand what proulx was thinking on that play, and the scary part is, he's the ref in charge of the crew!! How is it command centre couldn't interject and correct the blunder??
It was an outrageous blunder.I thought I heard a comment that the whistle blew the play dead early which negates any recovery after the fact.
That would make it two errors. Geez.
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 03:52:03 PMJust wait until they cost a team a playoff berth or even worse, a playoff win. Maybe then, finally, this league will do something about this bush league garbage.
Since we are all fans of CFL football it is an embarrassment to all of us. I can't imagine what our neighbours to the South think of that incompetence. Just embarrassing.
8x ---
As the Head of CFL Officiating, Glen Johnson's role involves overseeing the league's officiating department, including:
- Implementing and enforcing league rules and regulations
- Developing and refining officiating procedures and protocols
- Providing guidance and training to on-field officials
- Collaborating with the CFL Rules Committee to propose and implement rule changes aimed at enhancing player safety and improving game flow
--- x8
Re: I can't imagine what our neighbours to the South think of that incompetence.
They can relate because they see it in
all of the leagues in their country too.
A basic constant of pass interference used to be " any contact the causes an unfair advantage is pass interference." There used to be stements like " positional advantage" whoever established the path to the arrival point of the ball can't have it taken away by contact. The calls against the Bombers were rediculous. How is the female in the sideline reffing. She had a play in front of her and there was no flag. Did she have a deep coverage responsibility?
If she is qualified, like anyone else, and has earned the opportunity I am all for it. I just wonder how many males with equal or superior skills are ignored, for her benefit.?my she looked very hesitant, passive and un assertive.
the thing is the command center isn't correcting the wrong calls, regardless of who makes them.
And the other factor is regardless of what the rules states, the cfl also dictates to what extent the rules get enforced Holding is one example, screening is another . On the other extreme is rtp being enforces on a touch to the qbs head.(which i think is ridiculas)
the latest Ambrosiaism is that if it can only be determined to be an error by going to slow motion then it isnt an error and shouldn't be overturned. (in part referring to the adage i guess that there must be clear and obvious evidence to overturn on field call)
Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 12:37:20 AMJust horrible officiating.
Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 02:02:32 AMNow that I think about more, maybe they can't reverse a "no immediate recovery" ruling. They should be able to though.
It appears to me the ref who was closest and blew it dead realizes just how badly he botched it, and only after a while they came up with the "no immediate recovery"
lie explanation. It was one big poop show.
However, with the Demski-challenge-for-a-loss fiasco we have learned the refs have a superpower to decide in their heads the play is dead and everything after that point doesn't exist (and us plebes might not know about it for a few more seconds as their lips take ages to whistle it dead). And it's so stupid because everyone can clearly see the important aspects occurring before the whistle sounds! (In this case the fumble recovery.)
Just like the Demski fiasco, the refs are
mandated by rule to never blow their whistle until they are
SURE the play is dead. And just like the Demski fiasco, they botched it baaaaaaaaadly. And just like the Demski fiasco, this is Proulx's unit (however, it wasn't #22 screwing up this time).
100% command needs to be able to override these mistakes. And 100% these fast-blowing refs need to be reprimanded and/or fired. They found a loophole to rig games if they want, and command seemingly can't do anything about it. I remember some NFL games where a hideously bad call on the field wasn't challengeable but the field refs saw how it was ridiculous and just overturned the call to make things right. Our refs/command should do the same.
Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 01:49:52 AMThat was definitely a time to evoke the "step in" rule. It was an egregiously bad call. As a matter of fact, I think it was the worst call I can ever remember seeing.
After reading all of the command rules, I think the "integrity of the game" rule needs to be invoked more. If this fumble screwup doesn't destroy the integrity of the game, I don't know what does.
Quote from: pdirks67 on August 03, 2024, 12:47:06 AMI actually thought that CFL officiating had steadily improved over the last 4-5 years and had gotten pretty good last year. No one's perfect and mistakes will always be made. But the mistakes had become smaller and less frequent. This year - WHAT IS GOING ON???!!!!
You are 100% right. Refs were getting better. Command was generally getting things right. I can't recall anything like the garbage going on this season. I expect the refs to botch calls but then when teams spend a challenge on them the correct call NEEDS to be made.
Giving teams crap calls and then robbing them of their challenge too adds insult to injury and upsets everyone. When everyone in the league knows it's wrong, even the team benefiting from the call, you know you're doing a bad job.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 03, 2024, 02:06:20 AMMontreal proving they are the real deal
They proved that in week 1.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 03, 2024, 07:02:06 AMCOCKY or ASSERTIVE/CONFIDENT?....a fine line. I never felt he was arrogant. Maybe to some people he came across that way. I WANT A CONFIDENT QB any day who is willing to do whatever to WIN! :)
I disliked BLM just for always winning for several seasons. Then he did his "we'll show them what kind of team they are" in our barn. That's when I switched to hating him because he 100% was cocky to an extreme rarely seen in the CFL. (And I refuse to accept his attempted retconning excuse -- just CYA lies made up after the fact.)
The ABC (=ABBLM) part of me is very happy he is stinking joints out the last few seasons. He does get credit at being the master of milking his career for all it's worth though! And he was good on the TSN panel. He should hang 'em up and go do that.
Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 03:57:25 PMNobody can understand what proulx was thinking on that play, and the scary part is, he's the ref in charge of the crew!! How is it command centre couldn't interject and correct the blunder??
Nothing Proulx could do. The ref closest made the call and Proulx running over from the QB backfield just announces it. Command needs to do something when the call clearly is disgusting, even if by rule they can't.
Quote from: Pete on August 04, 2024, 07:20:49 PMthe thing is the command center isn't correcting the wrong calls, regardless of who makes them.
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the latest Ambrosiaism is that if it can only be determined to be an error by going to slow motion then it isnt an error and shouldn't be overturned. (in part referring to the adage i guess that there must be clear and obvious evidence to overturn on field call)
The TOR@CGY game had another horrifically horrendous crap DPI call that was challenged and upheld. Just an atrocious monstrosity of a shambles.
Go back to my thread about this. Clearly, called DPIs aren't going to be overturned even when everyone can see the standard for DPI was not met by the nothing contact. Every other year they would overturn, but not this year. Whatever they think they are doing by changing the standard to overturn, it's not working and everyone is getting mad.
As for your point about Ambrosie: did you hear/see him say that or are you guessing based on what we've been seeing lately?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 06, 2024, 07:30:48 AMThey proved that in week 1.
some can't still comprehend that Maas is a good coach and Fajardo is a quality CFL QB.
I will still think that if the Bombers sign Sankey last season when he was available (and Bighill playing hurt) we win the Grey Cup.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 06, 2024, 03:27:10 PMsome can't still comprehend that Maas is a good coach and Fajardo is a quality CFL QB.
I will still think that if the Bombers sign Sankey last season when he was available (and Bighill playing hurt) we win the Grey Cup.
That doesn't address the issues on offense in that game, though.
Quote from: The Zipp on August 06, 2024, 03:27:10 PMsome can't still comprehend that Maas is a good coach and Fajardo is a quality CFL QB.
Cody can do ok when he has a great supporting cast. Once they put McGloster in at RT and their OL was arguably league-best, and he was surrounded by a league top-3 R corps, and had the best D by far, then he could shine. So would many/most decent vet QBs in that situation. Remember, Cody has been in the CFL, what, 10 years?
But Cody didn't win that GC. It was crazy good Ento robbing us of 2 TDs and the final 3rd down Hail Mary sheer-luck completion to league-best Mack that won that game. And Calvillo. They out-brained us by a country mile.