Dru Brown looking very good so far.
no yards is a call thats consistantly missed
Of course it's no yards. Any blind bat could see that live. No yards x2 actually. Refs are looking as bad as the ones that did our game last time.
Since command almost never overturns a no-call no yards, it's even funnier because that means command thought it was egregious.
elks have al lheir money tied up in offence the only guy on defence i recognize is purifoy
must have used a chip ball
Crazy miss for Ward on that FG try. Wind gusts doing some wild stuff to that football (or is it the chip)?
Quote from: Pete on July 19, 2024, 11:41:07 PMmust have used a chip ball
Totally thinking that. There was a game last week that had a kick like that too. It was like fine then voom going super wonky.
The league did say each team/kicker could choose whether to have a chip or not. I wonder if some kickers didn't believe "Chippy" Castillo and opted to allow the chips?
However, I will remind everyone that Ward is pretty weak beyond 45. His huge record was like 90% <40Y.
Wow, injuries not going EDM's way. No help for Jarius.
I'm a bit surprised they pulled MBT so soon. I'm not sure Ford will fare any better. He should have ran on that last series... that's really all he can do.
If you're going to throw on scramble rules, throw to the vets, not the newest "I'm giving up on the play" guy. Also, Dru had 18 miles of free space in the flat and his read should have been "run". Hate to say it, but Cody wouldn't have made that mistake.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 19, 2024, 11:46:05 PMWow, injuries not going EDM's way. No help for Jarius.
I'm a bit surprised they pulled MBT so soon. I'm not sure Ford will fare any better. He should have ran on that last series... that's really all he can do.
Ya that was an early hook for sure. Maybe some pent up anger from last week and JJ had seen enough. Give it to ford and see what he can do
In the key 2nd & long you don't chuck it to Pimpleton in traffic, the Lucky-like small speedster who needs space to operate. You throw it to your big guys like Hardy and Rhymes. Dru had all day and that's the best read he had?
I think EDM is keying on Hardy... he's usually the top R for them, and so far in this game it's crickets.
Bede coming in... maybe he'll pooch it and cause Jarius to get fired!
Ottawa makes it look easy to find returners
Hahahahaha. Bede gonna get everyone fired!
Start your smiling and laughing again Bede!!
someones gotta tell the elks players not to look like its a good time when they screw up (ie take a penalty)
biggest question is can the Elks, without Jones, pull off another exciting last second loss.
Dru throwing ducks
Dru is prone to dumb mistakes when he's under pressure. He needs to either run downfield himself or take a page from Matt Nichols' book. I have him in fantasy and every pick costs me 2!!!
Quote from: markf on July 20, 2024, 12:04:23 AMbiggest question is can the Elks, without Jones, pull off another exciting last second loss.
find a way elks!
2Q3:30 that was no yards on EDM again, LOL, uncalled. Granted, this time it was 4Y out, not 3Y. Still...
they might as well, Ottawa used up their challenge
for some reason its a common occurance in Ottawa (streakers)
Wow, I'm shocked they called UR H2H on "just" a receiver!! Stop the world!
elks sure miss Ceresna
Dru just-missing Hardy in the EZ costs me big time fantasy points... Grrrrrrrr
Dial it in Dru!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 20, 2024, 12:16:03 AMWow, I'm shocked they called UR H2H on "just" a receiver!! Stop the world!
That was a blatant hit to the head from purifoy. It's like he lowered his head to hit the receiver in the head. That was totally avoidable to as the receiver was down. They have to hit clowns harder for doing crap like that.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 20, 2024, 12:22:36 AMDru just-missing Hardy in the EZ costs me big time fantasy points... Grrrrrrrr
Dial it in Dru!
He's off tonight, 2 picks, he's killing you on fantasy!!
The Acklin toe catch was a) amazing and b) actually a catch. I did the computer tricks and the tip of his toe was still in bounds. Stunning and amazing, maybe the catch of the week, even though it wasn't big yards.
I see defenders on both these teams hitting a lot harder than what we see from the Bombers.
ie, I don't think the Bombers do much hard hitting on D.
am I missing something?
EDM getting pressure consistently with 4, and OTT isn't adjusting (yet). Need to buy Dru a bit more time. And find the weak spot to attack. So far what I'm seeing is a wide open flat. Put in some crossers or FB/RB sneak-outs for the dump & YAC.
And bring in a 6th OL sometimes, like WPG does.
With Pimpleton emerging as a threat, OTT's WR corps is actually incredibly strong on paper. Only that rookie NAT (Mardner) is weak (so far). But if Dru doesn't have time or is uncomfortable, he's going to make mistakes. So give him some protection.
P.S. The problems/pressure seem to be coming from OTT's NAT RT.
Lapo: Pokey puts his glove back on before making that catch. That's a great spot by Lapo. I missed that one! Pokey gettin' some love at halftime!
Should I switch one of my fantasy Rs to Pokey? Not too late, yet! Or will SSK key on him seeing as how our other Rs haven't done squat all season (yet).
its in Bede's head now
Edmonton continues to do things that costs them points. They were in field goal range, and then go back to back on plays losing yards. Throw the ball away MBT!!! Oh well, Elks will find a way to lose....
Quote from: Pete on July 20, 2024, 12:51:42 AMits in Bede's head now
Getting your HC fired might do that.
Quote from: dd on July 20, 2024, 01:00:31 AMEdmonton continues to do things that costs them points. They were in field goal range, and then go back to back on plays losing yards. Throw the ball away MBT!!! Oh well, Elks will find a way to lose....
It seems like it, doesn't it? They say even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut so you'd have to think that eventually this curse is going to end. Will tonight's game be that game? Possible. Their D is hanging in there. Maybe after all these FG misses by Bede he'll nail one with that big leg of his to win one for them.
2nd and 3 terrible call
Dunigan called Brady + the OL pushing him "The Brady Bunch". LOL, I like it!!
Quote from: Pete on July 20, 2024, 01:10:12 AM2nd and 3 terrible call
Agree. What are they thinking over there? MBT needs to be better than that. I'd go back to Tre Ford.
3Q2:13 Calling IP on that is virtually never done in the CFL. It was 1-2 frames early (1/30th sec). Yoshi does that nearly every single play.
Crazy call by the refs.
Quote from: Pete on July 20, 2024, 01:10:12 AM2nd and 3 terrible call
Exactly!! Get the stinking first down, don't throw a low percentage long out to nowhere. I swear, its Edmonton's play calling that's costing them games. Their D is doing their job, their O is just pitiful to watch. 174 yds of total offense in 3 quarters. That doesn't win you too many ball games, an on top of that, I've never seen such stupid football.
no wonder learned from the best or worst depending on how you look at it (jones)
Bede misses his 3rd field goal of the night.....hmmmm...flubbed the kickoff last week that cost them the game....did management get rid of the wrong guy last week?!?!?
Still, RBs are allowing them to hang around. Still anyone's game.
Quote from: dd on July 20, 2024, 01:13:05 AMI've never seen such stupid football.
This does feel like one of those "both teams want to lose" games. It's just bad ball all around. How does Dru throw for 450 one week and then lay this stinker?
Bede missing another: fire that dude.
I sure hope the WPG game is better than this one!!
Ottawas trying to give it to them... but elks dont want to ruin their perfect record
That's terrible lazy route running by Lewis.
OTT hasn't adjusted to the EDM pressure yet. No answer. They need to shorten the passes as this OL can't give Dru time. And maybe run it some more, eh? You're in the lead, you can run it.
I think it is important for the Elks to win as it is possible we may be fighting the Redblacks for a cross over playoff spot.
Pimpleton drops a sure TD. Yep, neither team wants to win this game!!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 20, 2024, 01:22:50 AMOTT hasn't adjusted to the EDM pressure yet. No answer. They need to shorten the passes as this OL can't give Dru time. And maybe run it some more, eh? You're in the lead, you can run it.
Most teams would pound the ball, take time off the clock and kick a field goal to make it a 2 score game. Nope, not ottawa. Let's go for all or nothing, drop 2 passes and turn the ball back to Edmonton! Only to watch Edmonton go 2 and out from their 9. So frustrating to watch this garbage
Quote from: 55StickCar on July 20, 2024, 01:23:50 AMI think it is important for the Elks to win as it is possible we may be fighting the Redblacks for a cross over playoff spot.
Ya, that's a thought. However, EDM could conceivably suddenly get good. Who knows.
I dunno... I think we'll manage to end up 2nd or 3rd in the W outright.
I think that Rhymes "drop" was a catch and a fumble and recovery. Should have been OTT ball. Oh well, don't waste your challenge early on weak sauce.
The reason is Rhymes' feet never left the ground, he was actually dragging them diving. If feet don't leave the ground, the "survive contact with the ground" rule does not come into play. And in any event, he did survive and then flipped it out himself.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 20, 2024, 01:30:04 AMYa, that's a thought. However, EDM could conceivably suddenly get good. Who knows.
I dunno... I think we'll manage to end up 2nd or 3rd in the W outright.
I hope you are right about us finishing third. Probably then important for Calgary to lose also.
Make sure you switch to TSN 3 everyone!
Well, the computer PVR cut over to our game... so I can't see the end of the EDM game until I get in front of a "real" TV. It's looking good for OTT, since they're in the lead and EDM can't do anything at all, but really anyone could win it. If MBT puts something together maybe they pull it out.
Watch, EDM will lose by a missed Bede convert with 0:00 on the clock!
You don't win many football games scoring a measly 14 points. Their offense stinks, it's always stunk and the guy calling the plays gets promoted to ahead coach. What a crazy world we live in !!
They were a reasonable and exciting offense when Ford was QB last season. And the fans certainly liked him. I am convinced American coaches just do not think Canadian QB's are good enough.
That was a terrible exhibition of football, I thought Brown would figure it out eventually and put some plays together, but he never did. RB's won by default because Edm. was worse.
Quote from: 55StickCar on July 20, 2024, 02:08:20 AMThey were a reasonable and exciting offense when Ford was QB last season. And the fans certainly liked him. I am convinced American coaches just do not think Canadian QB's are good enough.
Wait until the elks play their next home game and MBT lays another egg. Their fans will boo him out of the stadium and Ford will get the call to take over their hopeless offense.
Quote from: dd on July 20, 2024, 02:00:07 AMYou don't win many football games scoring a measly 14 points. Their offense stinks, it's always stunk and the guy calling the plays gets promoted to ahead coach. What a crazy world we live in !!
Well, that was foreboding for our game! We couldn't even manage anywhere close to 14!
And ya, the problem in EDM, at least in-season, wasn't Jones. They aren't going to get better. They need a rebuild year next year. Pretty sure Jarius/Geroy are not the long term answer, but we'll see.
Quote from: dd on July 20, 2024, 04:50:56 AMWait until the elks play their next home game and MBT lays another egg. Their fans will boo him out of the stadium and Ford will get the call to take over their hopeless offense.
Ford is no better. The only difference is he has no arm, and he'll run forward for 10 every few plays instead of taking a sack. Won't result in any more points.
MBT has the ability to be pretty good. Good enough to reach a GC! He has no OL in EDM, and many players have checked out.
Whiny MBT makes me laugh!
NFL does this scheduling often as well.
Maybe he can retire and not worry about it all then?
He is not even a good player! lol
Elks play calling was absolutely horrible.
Putting Tre Ford in for a few plays was stupid. Should have brought him in on every 2nd and short to force Ott to count him as an RB and a QB.
2 bad teams, but Ott is just a little less bad.
Ottawa trending up with dru brown. Not even close to elks bad. That is a circus sideshow already!
Dru was OK this game, but nothing spectacular, definitely not "the next coming" in any way. Opponents are picking up on his tells now, and he's getting picked. He does have a fast release, and a decent arm, but he seems predictable. At least that's the feeling I am getting.
Patterson looked far better than Dru. "Wisdom beyond his years" and praise of his college pedigree of coaches seemed to be the commentators mantra all game. Sask will have an easier decision next year Harris/Patterson than we did with Collaros/Brown.
Quote from: dd on July 20, 2024, 04:50:56 AMWait until the elks play their next home game and MBT lays another egg. Their fans will boo him out of the stadium and Ford will get the call to take over their hopeless offense.
Not blaming MBT for their current state and Ford is not the answer, if the Bombers had MBT right now he would not be underthrowing receivers in the endzone. I'd make that trade if it was on the table.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on July 20, 2024, 04:35:01 PMOttawa trending up with dru brown. Not even close to elks bad. That is a circus sideshow already!
Ottawa has yet to beat a team that has won a game.
Maybe they're the best of the worst?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 20, 2024, 05:12:10 PMNot blaming MBT for their current state and Ford is not the answer, if the Bombers had MBT right now he would not be underthrowing receivers in the endzone. I'd make that trade if it was on the table.
So would I!!
I m thinking whatever fans are left in Edmonton are going to want a win next home game, and if not, MBT will bear the brunt of their pent up frustration.
Quote from: dd on July 20, 2024, 05:51:18 PMSo would I!!
I m thinking whatever fans are left in Edmonton are going to want a win next home game, and if not, MBT will bear the brunt of their pent up frustration.
Why would the Elks trade for Collaros with his current contract. It's always interesting that some think someone is playing badly but might be a trade commodity.
MBT is a turnover machine. He has always been that. Strong arm sure. Great QB not so much.
https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/lions-place-wr-jevon-cottoy-on-six-game-injured-list-1.2150133
Leggs been very good this year
Carey beast TD
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 20, 2024, 11:43:01 PMLeggs been very good this year
Yes, He's been the only bright spot on Hamilton's 0-5 roster
Argos suck!!! So did the TiCats but the forced 2 turnovers that led to 14 points.
Janarion Grant. Yikes!! IIRC that's 3 games in a row with a kick return TD. Unfortunately the bobble on the next punt cost them 10 - 20 yards or more depending on fielding and return.
IDK. Not really impressed with Dukes but he's slippery in the back field and a solid runner. We're not good against those kinds of QB's. If he gets too much time to throw, he can beat us.
The next question is the 3 injuries Argos had and whether any of the 3 will be able to play next week.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 20, 2024, 05:12:10 PMNot blaming MBT for their current state and Ford is not the answer, if the Bombers had MBT right now he would not be underthrowing receivers in the endzone. I'd make that trade if it was on the table.
That take is crazier than MBT is!
MBT has a good arm and fast release, but he's wildly inconsistent. If he had any consistency he'd be a great QB. But he's not, so he's just "good".
Yes, MBT is not EDM's main problem. Yes, Ford would probably do worse.
I think MBT would do ok here (he'd FIFO for sure), but not better than Zach. Our problems are similar to EDM: OL weaker, WRs not doing so well. Zach would do much better if we had Desjar, Couture & Yoshi still, and all our desired starting WRs off the IR.
And on the flipside, Zach would suck super hard rocks in EDM, as their OL situation is even worse than ours, and they have no decent RB to relieve the pressure.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2024, 02:16:25 AMIDK. Not really impressed with Dukes but he's slippery in the back field and a solid runner. We're not good against those kinds of QB's. If he gets too much time to throw, he can beat us.
The next question is the 3 injuries Argos had and whether any of the 3 will be able to play next week.
Yup, we're up @TOR next week. TOR took some bad injuries which will hurt them, and they're already weakened. That gives us some parity with our depleted roster.
Who would have guessed this would be the
game of the week?! What an exciting fun game with huge nerves & sweat down to the wire. I thought for sure TOR would get it done at the end there. But I'm super happy my "make-up ground hail mary" HAM pick'em worked out. I knew HAM was getting due for one, especially at home for the suffering fans.
BLM actually had a good game fantasy-wise, especially seeing as how he's so cheap. Too bad I picked Dru this week, doh.
Dukes is like all the other mobile QBs. Meh. He's has a W/L ratio that flatters his real ability. Arbuckle (oddly) looked like the bigger threat today, and now we have to plan around both QBs!! Dinwiddie was super fast (IMHO) to yank Dukes, so he'll do it next week too if we start winning big. Dukes might be good in a few seasons, but for now he's just another Ford or Crum.
Huge win for Hammy. good for them. Argos suck. We should beat them next game unless the refs beat us first.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 21, 2024, 08:33:02 AMThat take is crazier than MBT is!
MBT has a good arm and fast release, but he's wildly inconsistent. If he had any consistency he'd be a great QB. But he's not, so he's just "good".
Yes, MBT is not EDM's main problem. Yes, Ford would probably do worse.
I think MBT would do ok here (he'd FIFO for sure), but not better than Zach. Our problems are similar to EDM: OL weaker, WRs not doing so well. Zach would do much better if we had Desjar, Couture & Yoshi still, and all our desired starting WRs off the IR.
And on the flipside, Zach would suck super hard rocks in EDM, as their OL situation is even worse than ours, and they have no decent RB to relieve the pressure.
Kevin Brown ain't no slouch, although he hasn't looked as good as he did last year when he rushed for over 1,000 yds.
Can someone remind me who went down for TO?
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2024, 03:17:47 PMCan someone remind me who went down for TO?
Brinkman their DL looked the worst. Probable leg, knee or ankle. Not sure which but he could be done for an extended time. Needed to be carried off the field by 2 big guys.
The others were Priester their current SAM after their starter Mauger was injured earlier this year. He may have had his bell rung and might have to sit out a game for concussion protocol. Or he might be available.
The other was a starting CB Eduourd and his back up Pierce were both nicked to some degree. Not sure how seriously.
So Brinkman was the most significant. He recorded 8 DT's and 2 sacks this year.
I remember all those just couldn't recall the names. Thanks bud.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 21, 2024, 03:10:19 PMKevin Brown ain't no slouch, although he hasn't looked as good as he did last year when he rushed for over 1,000 yds.
They aren't using him as well in their play calling.
So, Grant was ok most of the night, was WHOOPEE! one play, and put the ball on the ground the next time, and they were very, very lucky to get it back, with only a 9 yard loss. Oh, and got hair tackled (OUCH).
This was the dig on Grant. He can break a play and then break your heart.
Would I like him back here? Sure. Do I miss him? Equal parts yes and no. And we will see if he finishes the season on the field. Surprised the spotter didn't take him out after the hair tackle, that was a vicious head snap.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 21, 2024, 05:20:24 PMSo, Grant was ok most of the night, was WHOOPEE! one play, and put the ball on the ground the next time, and they were very, very lucky to get it back, with only a 9 yard loss. Oh, and got hair tackled (OUCH).
This was the dig on Grant. He can break a play and then break your heart.
Would I like him back here? Sure. Do I miss him? Equal parts yes and no. And we will see if he finishes the season on the field. Surprised the spotter didn't take him out after the hair tackle, that was a vicious head snap.
Why was it a penalty? By definition it's not part of the uniform and IIRC he had that happen last week as well with no penalty.
I was wondering whether he had extensions as part of his dreads?
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2024, 05:49:38 PMWhy was it a penalty? By definition it's not part of the uniform and IIRC he had that happen last week as well with no penalty.
I was wondering whether he had extensions as part of his dreads?
They seriously have to consider eliminating this method of tackle somehow, either make it illegal or restrain the hair growth to what can be contained within the helmet. To much danger to the players neck when taken down by the hair, worse effect than a horse collar.
Must have been extensions, I would think there would be serious bleeding if that amount of hair was yanked out of one's head. Grant didn't even remove his helmet so it didn't look like he was in any pain or need of medical assistance.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 21, 2024, 05:58:17 PMThey seriously have to consider eliminating this method of tackle somehow, either make it illegal or restrain the hair growth to what can be contained within the helmet. To much danger to the players neck when taken down by the hair, worse effect than a horse collar.
Must have been extensions, I would think there would be serious bleeding if that amount of hair was yanked out of one's head. Grant didn't even remove his helmet so it didn't look like he was in any pain or need of medical assistance.
Same issue in the NFL where it's also legal. I agree it's a safety issue but to some degree it limits where a defender can grab an opponent. I also don't understand why some players like 3 foot long dreads in the 1st place.
That said, how much of this can be compressed inside the helmet?
I find it annoying that it obscures the ability to read the players nameplate.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2024, 08:16:44 PMSame issue in the NFL where it's also legal. I agree it's a safety issue but to some degree it limits where a defender can grab an opponent. I also don't understand why some players like 3 foot long dreads in the 1st place.
That said, how much of this can be compressed inside the helmet?
I find it annoying that it obscures the ability to read the players nameplate.
Lot's of issues, they have to do something one way or the other.
Great game tonight.
Hopefully Calgary loses! GO lions Go.
The game is always evolving and it's clear this rule needs to be changed for a number of reasons. They could solve the problem by saying your hair cannot be longer that just above your numbers, that way there's no hair hanging below the numbers (which if you grab the sweater below the numbers to make a tackle it's legal) and any grabbing of the hair as a primary source of making a tackle and causing a change of direction is illegal. This would be consistent with the horse collar rule, which pulling the hair to make a tackle is more dangerous than the horse collar tackle as there is more whiplash on the head and neck area and more impact on the head as seen in yesterday's game
Quote from: dd on July 21, 2024, 10:07:13 PMThe game is always evolving and it's clear this rule needs to be changed for a number of reasons. They could solve the problem by saying your hair cannot be longer that just above your numbers, that way there's no hair hanging below the numbers (which if you grab the sweater below the numbers to make a tackle it's legal) and any grabbing of the hair as a primary source of making a tackle and causing a change of direction is illegal. This would be consistent with the horse collar rule, which pulling the hair to make a tackle is more dangerous than the horse collar tackle as there is more whiplash on the head and neck area and more impact on the head as seen in yesterday's game
That makes sense but tell it to the players that have that fashion attitude.
Can't tell people to cut their hair, imo. If that's the way they want it, leave them be.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2024, 10:42:16 PMThat makes sense but tell it to the players that have that fashion attitude.
They must make some sort of hair net that could be used to harness the excess hair and keep it above the numbers. If not, get a hair cut or get a real job!!
VA takes a big shot early
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2024, 11:11:19 PMVA takes a big shot early
Almost looked like Biggie's tackle.
Calgary returner serious hand or arm injury
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2024, 11:18:42 PMCalgary returner serious hand or arm injury
He landed on it awkwardly and as he rolled I think it snapped. All the players nearby immediately signalled for the off-field staff so they may have heard something.
VA should have two ducks already
Berryhill is a keeper
No Suitor, the pump fake threw off the DB and by the time he recovered it was too late. It wasn't that "he thought he was going to INT it". SMH
VA takes another shot
He is hurt for sure, ribs?
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2024, 11:44:40 PMVA takes another shot
He is hurt for sure, ribs?
He's definitely taking a beating so far. Yes, looked like ribs. I thought there could have been a leading-with-the-crown-of-the-helmet thing there but no flag.
I love that play action play that Calgary ran just there. Man, I wish we'd mix some of that into our packages.
Stamps look good
Quote from: J5V on July 21, 2024, 11:47:59 PMHe's definitely taking a beating so far. Yes, looked like ribs. I thought there could have been a leading-with-the-crown-of-the-helmet thing there but no flag.
I didn't notice that
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2024, 11:50:40 PMI didn't notice that
Little bit of a complaint by VA but you're probably right, nothing there. Calgary is sure doing all they can to put pressure on him and so far, it's working. But VA gets the ball out very quickly. He's not a big man. Calgary should keep the pressure on him and keeps those arms in the air looking for tips.
Calgary pass rush is very strong
Quote from: J5V on July 21, 2024, 11:56:11 PMLittle bit of a complaint by VA but you're probably right, nothing there. Calgary is sure doing all they can to put pressure on him and so far, it's working. But VA gets the ball out very quickly. He's not a big man. Calgary should keep the pressure on him and keeps those arms in the air looking for tips.
I missed leading with the head entirely. I would need to watch again to comment. Pressure is key on VA.
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2024, 11:58:07 PMI missed leading with the head entirely. I would need to watch again to comment. Pressure is key on VA.
Yeah the Stamps followed up with a sack. Their D-line is bringing it.
how does the command center decide when to overrule with no challenge? And why don't they when its an obvious bad call such as PI
18 for BC hurt
Quote from: Pete on July 22, 2024, 12:03:53 AMhow does the command center decide when to overrule with no challenge? And why don't they when its an obvious bad call such as PI
That's a very good question. I'd like to know the answer too. The officiating in this game is night-and-day compared to what we witnessed yesterday.
To me, command centre should be able to over rule on any major foul and PI. These are big yardage penalties and you want to get it right vs let the bad call/non call go.
Stamps living in the Lions backfield stopping everything.
your right PI is often a huge penalty, i dont think they should automatically review every call, buts when the call is an obvious error or when the ball is not catchable it should be
Logan looks fantastic
Sick catch 85
How does #52 not get that call right?? Good thing command centre stepped in, that's a TD the Stamps would have been robbed on
Quote from: J5V on July 21, 2024, 11:47:59 PMHe's definitely taking a beating so far. Yes, looked like ribs. I thought there could have been a leading-with-the-crown-of-the-helmet thing there but no flag.
I thought it was a spear for sure. The Qb is in the motion of throwing and you come in and drill him with your helmet, that's a spear everyday, except today in Calgary
Circus catch 19
VA can really sling it side arm
Quote from: dd on July 21, 2024, 10:07:13 PMThe game is always evolving and it's clear this rule needs to be changed for a number of reasons. They could solve the problem by saying your hair cannot be longer that just above your numbers, that way there's no hair hanging below the numbers (which if you grab the sweater below the numbers to make a tackle it's legal) and any grabbing of the hair as a primary source of making a tackle and causing a change of direction is illegal. This would be consistent with the horse collar rule, which pulling the hair to make a tackle is more dangerous than the horse collar tackle as there is more whiplash on the head and neck area and more impact on the head as seen in yesterday's game
Buzz cuts and absolutely no side burns allowed- Mr Burns
Adams brain fart when pressured. Duck #1 could be 3.
PI? I don't see it
Glen Suitor continues to be insufferable to Rod Black proportions.
VAJ gets massively lucky on that tip drill!
TOUCHDOWN BC
I like it. Lucky to be good.
VA throws the pick. Looked very much like Zach there, forcing the ball.
I like Calgary being aggressive here
Quote from: J5V on July 22, 2024, 12:37:05 AMVA throws the pick. Looked very much like Zach there, forcing the ball.
I thought the same. Both do that when under fire at times. Both need to work on when to throw it away or eat it. It's also what makes them great as they never give up and make some amazing throws.
Stamps win the first half. Let's see if the Lions can adjust to what Calgary is doing.
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 22, 2024, 12:15:43 AMLogan looks fantastic
Best player of that first half.
Glitch on the score there for a second lol
Great adjustments by BC going back to Stanback and quick hitters to quell the D-line pressure of the Stamps.
Calgary is taking it to BC. We beat these guys?!? Wow.
I would have run the ball 3rd and goal
Quote from: dd on July 22, 2024, 01:28:56 AMCalgary is taking it to BC. We beat these guys?!? Wow.
I didn't like the call on third down and one there. Turnover on downs. Give the rock to your back or sneak it. Why throw it there?
That's a big gaff there. You have to come away with points there. We ll see if bc can dig themselves out of this hole or is a safety coming
Quote from: dd on July 22, 2024, 01:32:44 AMThat's a big gaff there. You have to come away with points there. We ll see if bc can dig themselves out of this hole or is a safety coming
Safety it is!!
Cgy beating themselves
Dickenson, LOL! What a maroon!
Man calgsry shoots itself in the foot.....brutal punt, may as well went for it on third down
Barnes with a cut!
Great hitch-screen call by the Stamps there.
Game opened up a bit, maybe wind died down a bit
VA duck #2 could have been 4
Calgary D big game
Mills wrist broken?
Why go deep there, needed a few 1st downs
We've seen every Western team now except the Elks. BC and Sask don't scare me and we already have the spread against the Stamps. If we can hang tough and solve some of our issues we could be right there at season's end.
Adams deep ball off all game
Quote from: J5V on July 22, 2024, 02:08:16 AMWe've seen every Western team now except the Elks. BC and Sask don't scare me and we already have the spread against the Stamps. If we can hang tough and solve some of our issues we could be right there at season's end.
There is no powerhouse in the West.
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 22, 2024, 02:06:47 AMMills wrist broken?
Didn't look good. These two teams beating the crap out of each other.
Barnes, clutch!
Jake throws a good ball and outplayed VA by a country mile
Hot potato lol
Mills back wrist ok
Mills back and running in beast mode!
A fun game that had some dull moments
Have a good night guys nice to have an active GDT
VAJ looked rather crapy today.
Blue Bombers starring at no playoffs. Whoof!
Quote from: J5V on July 22, 2024, 01:17:58 AMGreat adjustments by BC going back to Stanback and quick hitters to quell the D-line pressure of the Stamps.
but then promptly forgot about there running game what so ever!
Sometimes it appears that BC's offence can move the ball at will...VAJ throwing a few picks is the difference maker in this game.....but even in defeat VAJ has come into his own as an elite QB. Give Calgary's D full props for pressuring him and keeping him uncomfortable most of the game. My question is this....how can we score 41 points against a good D one game and then score 9 measly points the next? Boggles the mind!!
Calgary was very physical with Adams today, I m thinking he was a bit twitchy back there and can't blame him. BC s offense seemed to struggle tonight and not sure if it was Calgary's D or their O/ Adams was just off tonight.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 21, 2024, 03:10:19 PMKevin Brown ain't no slouch, although he hasn't looked as good as he did last year when he rushed for over 1,000 yds.
Brown is a speed back, and that has limited use, and can be defended against. EDM really needs a power back to help out their weak OL. Teams have figured him out.
I think he has a bright future, but he'll need to be on a team that's humming a lot better than EDM currently.
As it stands this season, EDM has a worse run game than BC with Mizzel in '23.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2024, 05:49:38 PMWhy was it a penalty? By definition it's not part of the uniform and IIRC he had that happen last week as well with no penalty.
I was wondering whether he had extensions as part of his dreads?
It wasn't a penalty. No flag. Fully legal.
We need a "Grant hair extensions" thread. I had never even thought of that possibility. Who would have guessed the dude had fake hair this whole time!! I'm a bit disappointed now! Faker! :D :D :D
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 21, 2024, 05:58:17 PMThey seriously have to consider eliminating this method of tackle somehow, either make it illegal or restrain the hair growth to what can be contained within the helmet. To much danger to the players neck when taken down by the hair, worse effect than a horse collar.
Why?
Every player is susceptible to a HC. No one makes a "choice" to be a viable HC tackle target. That makes it an every-player whole-league issue.
In contrast,
only Grant and maybe a couple of other CFL players are susceptible to a hair tackle. And that is their choice, and they know the risk, and they can negate that risk at any moment by having a sane hair cut.
These aren't the same, even if the risk of injury is.
There is another option for long-hair players:
tuck it all in their jersey. That whole mess can be hidden inside the jersey. Of course, they won't do that, because the whole point of the hair is to make an on-field fashion statement.
I for one loved the hair tackle: great entertainment! If Grant chooses that, and wants to cost his team potential TDs, so be it.
Quote from: Jesse on July 21, 2024, 10:46:29 PMCan't tell people to cut their hair, imo. If that's the way they want it, leave them be.
Agreed. However, Grant's hair can't just hurt Grant, it can hurt his
team. Who's to say that a much-easier-to-make hair tackle doesn't cost a team a TD in a GC? As such, I think it would be perfectly fine for a team to put in their players' contracts that such pullable/tacklable hair be prohibited. AFAIK no team does that. If a player didn't like the contract, they don't have to sign with the team.
Like in F1, McLaren has always had a conservative "stodgy" set of rules for drivers. Hamilton had to always have a buzz cut when he raced for them. When he left and went to a new team, he started doing the more "wild" cuts. It's a team decision to reflect a team attitude, and athletes can choose to take it or leave it.
So leave it up to the players, or if a team wants, a team contract rule. In the meantime, I'll get my popcorn out and watch more crazy Grant tackles. Now that teams see the damage it can do, they'll all be gunning for those 'locks.
Quote from: Pete on July 22, 2024, 12:03:53 AMhow does the command center decide when to overrule with no challenge? And why don't they when its an obvious bad call such as PI
Because new rules were introduced the last few years as to what plays were automatically-reviewable without any direction from the on-field refs nor a HC challenge. Most of the UR/RTP and OC penalties now fall into that category.
It's mostly so EITS can flag uncalled dangerous RTP stuff, but it can also be used to pick up flags (as they did here).
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 22, 2024, 02:25:38 AMVAJ looked rather crapy today.
Yes he did. He overthrows his receivers when he's hurried. If the Bombers could ever get on a bit of a roll they could squeak in there and be a surprise. That Sask game is either going to galvanise this group or demoralised them. There's enough veteran leadership there to hopefully change our fortunes. We just have to get Zach playing like the Zach of old.
Quote from: dd on July 22, 2024, 12:22:14 AMHow does #52 not get that call right?? Good thing command centre stepped in, that's a TD the Stamps would have been robbed on
To be fair to that ref, watching live I thought it was a pushed-out catch-but-OOB too. Lots of feet in the field of vision, and the margin was very small. Glad command got it right. Glad within 3 mins all potential scoring plays reviewed.
Great catch. For our team's sake, let's hope The Other Philpot doesn't turn into his brother!
CGY is pounding the poop out of BC in the first half. How many BC guys injured or hurtin' already? They may still be very beat up by the team we play them. If I'm a BC fan, I'm worried about VAJ's internal injuries. Looks like VAJ is channeling his best Strev stoicism. Might be harder for that tiny little guy to keep that up.
Quote from: dd on July 22, 2024, 12:25:03 AMI thought it was a spear for sure. The Qb is in the motion of throwing and you come in and drill him with your helmet, that's a spear everyday, except today in Calgary
I did the ol' computer PVR magic on it and it was a perfect form tackle. Looks like a helmet-lead hit live for sure. But slow mo it's a great tackle, leading with the shoulder, head off to the side.
Wow, CGY #73 is a monster DT and we need to find a way to steal him away! 3-man rush regularly getting through to VAJ!
CGY studied the '23 WDF for the Hall masterclass on how to beat VAJ, and it's working great in the 1st half! VAJ is as flustered and rattled as he was 9 months ago. Funny how BC, VAJ and their OC have no answers (so far) when this starts happening.
Quote from: dd on July 22, 2024, 01:35:05 AMSafety it is!!
That's wild! I can't remember the last time a team got a safety via an EZ hold. I can't remember one in a decade.
P.S. Refs often let that "hold" slide. Knock down was fine. Maybe he held him a sec getting up. Technically it's not a horrible flag, but 8 of 10 times refs let that go.
See Patterson & Regina... THAT is how you kill the last 5s of clock and throw the freaking ball away well before the D gets to you!!
As for the game: fun game to watch. Watching meh-level CGY take BC down a notch is always fun. Watching VAJ implode is always fun... did he swing his a helmet at anyone??
BC mega beat up. VAJ & McInnis majorly hurting. CGY getting beat up too. Both of our W rivals much weakened after this. Might linger into our upcoming BC game.
CGY used the '23 WDF as the template for flustering VAJ. "Bad VAJ" showed up today. BC OL showing some major flaws, very surprising.
Slow & steady Maier won the day over peacock VAJ. Maier might have been the fantasy-QB pick of the week!
AND the fact we just beat CGY shows that maybe we're not as bad as we think. Transitive property means we beat BC! (for the math nerds out there, all 1 of them)