Would love to see Brown start and get a win here.
Elks added Moncrief and Oakman to their AR. Might be a bit rusty but that's going to improve their defence.
I'll be cheering for the Redblacks and Brown in particular.
It's a coin toss about how this will turn out. Elks have a history of self destruction.
Should be a very good game if Brown is healthy.
Yes if Drew plays, I easily change my pick to an Ottawa win. If he doesn't, than Edmonton could win. I heard yesterday, he was cleared to play.
On a different note, with Saskatchewan, poor Yoshi, looks like he got that knee twisted. Hope he can get back.
https://3downnation.com/2024/07/13/redblacks-qb-dru-brown-believes-no-apology-needed-for-hit-that-landed-him-in-concussion-protocol/
Class act, sure hope he can continue to develop. A fantastic asset for this great league. Proud of you Dru!
Quote from: Blueforlife on July 14, 2024, 06:46:45 PMhttps://3downnation.com/2024/07/13/redblacks-qb-dru-brown-believes-no-apology-needed-for-hit-that-landed-him-in-concussion-protocol/
Class act, sure hope he can continue to develop. A fantastic asset for this great league. Proud of you Dru!
Great post and thanks for the link. I'd like to join you in wishing Dru all the best. Here's hoping we see him in blue and gold again one day.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 14, 2024, 02:28:27 PMWould love to see Brown start and get a win here.
Eastern wins against the West are only a good thing.
Quote from: Jesse on July 14, 2024, 10:08:52 PMEastern wins against the West are only a good thing.
Elks beating the RB's makes crossover easier...
Brown to 15 on a rope
Horrible pass interference call on Ottawa, why wouldn't dice have challenged that as that let Edmonton out of their end??
Quote from: theaardvark on July 14, 2024, 10:40:00 PMElks beating the RB's makes crossover easier...
Doesn't matter to me if there's a cross over or not ;)
Sick throw and catch Elks TD
Based on Dru Brown having a lot of time to throw.... looks like Oakman's best days are behind him. not sorry we did not go after him.
83 Ottawa fastest guy in league?
DT DB throws a nice deep ball
Elks close to implosion? These players don't look too happy or even interested.
Quote from: The Zipp on July 15, 2024, 01:21:52 AMElks close to implosion? These players don't look too happy or even interested.
At what point do we see Tre Ford?
MBT started the game off on fire and now is absolutely stinking the joint out!!
Quote from: Jesse on July 15, 2024, 01:24:58 AMAt what point do we see Tre Ford?
The chants are starting.
Chris Jones is the biggest fraud in recent cfl history
Gino Lewis wishing he was still in Montreal
They discovered Gino !!!
Not over ??
Looks like it is over now. 1-3 this week.
Quote from: The Zipp on July 15, 2024, 01:34:17 AMThey discovered Gino !!!
Why has it taken them 4 quarters to throw a pass to this guy. Their OC has seriously got to be called out on this.
Dru Brown looks VERY good tonight. I don't think we d have beaten Ottawa if he played the whole game.
If you score. Go for two?
Worst case for Bede...ball at the 50!!
Sick ending Bede kicks out of bounds last minute and then Ottawa wins. Dru Brown is the real deal.
Good game.
Elks find a way to lose
Just fire Chris jones and start over
Bede - wow!!! You can't do that
Quote from: The Zipp on July 15, 2024, 02:04:54 AMWorst case for Bede...ball at the 50!!
What was he thinking??
I d be looking for a new kicker right now, send him packing. This is why they're 0-5, they FIND ways to lose.
Wow
Hahahahaha ends in the most Elks way possible.
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 02:07:45 AMWhat was he thinking??
I d be looking for a new kicker right now, send him packing. This is why they're 0-5, they FIND ways to lose.
When it has happened so many times - the coach needs to go. Can't replace every player
All the kicker has to do is kick the ball in bounds and it's a real long field for Ottawa to go and maybe 2 plays to do it in. If jones takes no action, then he's sending the message, is ok to find ways to lose here. If he doesn't can the kicker, you're right, he ll be canned.
People mentioned Reddit
Jones should have let the clock go to zero on prukop. T.d. At the end.
Quote from: markf on July 15, 2024, 02:27:30 AMPeople mentioned Reddit
Jones should have let the clock go to zero on prukop. T.d. At the end.
Yup. Then go for 2 and the win (that would toss up on right or wrong) but shouldn't have left any time...and don't kick out of bounds.
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 02:26:09 AMAll the kicker has to do is kick the ball in bounds and it's a real long field for Ottawa to go and maybe 2 plays to do it in. If jones takes no action, then he's sending the message, is ok to find ways to lose here. If he doesn't can the kicker, you're right, he ll be canned.
And Bede has one of the strongest legs in the league. He might have been able to kick it into the endzone.
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 01:46:53 AMDru Brown looks VERY good tonight. I don't think we d have beaten Ottawa if he played the whole game.
Omg man, you twist every event to take a shot at the Bombers. Brown had nothing going against us and only Crum made it interesting for a bit.
Both teams have a lot of good players and some future stars, always good to keep track of the ones with expiring contracts after their seasons end early. Poor Jones he's going to suffer a heart attack on live TV!
Quote from: Jesse on July 15, 2024, 03:21:49 AMOmg man, you twist every event to take a shot at the Bombers. Brown had nothing going against us and only Crum made it interesting for a bit.
You believe what you want, but kramdi knocking brown out of the game was the turning point in that game. He had 480 yds passing in this game tonight, have we even came close to that?? He almost broke 500 yds, I don't think we ve cracked 350
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 04:03:06 AMYou believe what you want, but kramdi knocking brown out of the game was the turning point in that game. He had 480 yds passing in this game tonight, have we even came close to that?? He almost broke 500 yds, I don't think we ve cracked 350
How many yards did he have when he got knocked out?
Just because a player plays well in a game doesn't translate into playing well in every game. Dru was having a tough night against us - doesnt mean he is trash.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 14, 2024, 02:50:32 PMElks added Moncrief and Oakman to their AR. Might be a bit rusty but that's going to improve their defence.
I'll be cheering for the Redblacks and Brown in particular.
It's a coin toss about how this will turn out. Elks have a history of self destruction.
You called it....and they did. Brown through an incredible last play strike to get them in range for a walk off FG.....aided by Wards out of bounds KO with only seconds remaining in regulation! You have to wonder what it will take for the Elks to break the curse of beating themselves game after game.
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 01:45:26 AMWhy has it taken them 4 quarters to throw a pass to this guy. Their OC has seriously got to be called out on this.
He's always double covered. He's 3X their next best receiver, so they focus on him. Even in that explosion catch he made he was double covered. You have to be in the mood for big risk to throw into obvious double coverage.
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 02:07:45 AMWhat was he thinking??
I d be looking for a new kicker right now, send him packing. This is why they're 0-5, they FIND ways to lose.
Tell you what I'd do, I'd look into the bank accounts of Bede, and his wife, and everyone in his family. It wasn't just the KO...
Bede missed the chip shot 31Y FG earlier when EDM had a chance to tie. Then he magically botches a KO.
Bede is a seasoned vet, been in the league a long time. Maybe he can miss a 31Y, maybe. But then to also screw up a KO in insane fashion at a critical point he was probably told to put straight down main street because there wasn't enough time for OTT to do anything? Ya, I'm looking for incoming payoffs.
Just like H<20-more-letters> got canned shortly after missing 5 @IGF to lose us a game, so should Bede.
Right after the TD I was screaming they should go for 2, not just because they could get the outright win, but because I knew Bede was going to screw it up somehow. It took 1 more play than I anticipated. Trash ending.
Jones needs to channel his inner Kavis. Funny, always seems to happen in EDM...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jogIFynycWI
(I miss ol' Kavis, he got run out of the CFL way too soon.)
Quote from: markf on July 15, 2024, 02:27:30 AMPeople mentioned Reddit
Jones should have let the clock go to zero on prukop. T.d. At the end.
Nah, you want to play it normal because you might botch it on 3rd and OTT might be offside. O/S on the 1 is very common. If that happens you get a new set and you need time on the clock to try another 2-ish times.
No team should ever lose the game doing a deep KO with 6s left, unless it's a Stegall miracle TD or something.
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on July 15, 2024, 06:34:45 AMYou called it....and they did. Brown through an incredible last play strike to get them in range for a walk off FG
Brown didn't even have to do that. A 5Y run would have probably been enough for OTT to just kick or punt it through the EZ for a single. A single would win it. Get to the C or so and have your biggest leg hoof it as far as they can.
I knew EDM was doomed the instant they IKOOB'd.
I thought Brown had an outstanding game. Glad he seems fully recovered.
It worked out in the end but I thought Ottawa should have gone for the TD on the 2 yard line. If they don't make it then Edmonton would have been starting at the 1 or 2 yard line instead of the 40 yard line.
Quote from: The Zipp on July 15, 2024, 04:06:40 AMHow many yards did he have when he got knocked out?
Just because a player plays well in a game doesn't translate into playing well in every game. Dru was having a tough night against us - doesnt mean he is trash.
24 yards, in nearly a half.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 15, 2024, 09:39:26 AMTell you what I'd do, I'd look into the bank accounts of Bede, and his wife, and everyone in his family. It wasn't just the KO...
Bede missed the chip shot 31Y FG earlier when EDM had a chance to tie. Then he magically botches a KO.
Bede is a seasoned vet, been in the league a long time. Maybe he can miss a 31Y, maybe. But then to also screw up a KO in insane fashion at a critical point he was probably told to put straight down main street because there wasn't enough time for OTT to do anything? Ya, I'm looking for incoming payoffs.
Problem with this theory is I don't think you could make any money on a bet that paid off if the Elks lose, it was the expected result, they always lose!
Jones has proven to be a master at engineering interesting ways to lose.
The crowd was yelling for Tre, but he stuck to his guns with MBT and got the game tied up.
How he couldn't get the clock to zero on the TD (and the commentators were mentioning that its better if Prukop scores on the second try, to run time off the clock) I don't know.
How does a veteran with a huge leg like Bede manage to IKOOB (liking that acronym). And then how do they let Pimpleton catch that pass to set up the walk off?
Quote from: theaardvark on July 15, 2024, 04:06:40 PMJones has proven to be a master at engineering interesting ways to lose.
The crowd was yelling for Tre, but he stuck to his guns with MBT and got the game tied up.
How he couldn't get the clock to zero on the TD (and the commentators were mentioning that its better if Prukop scores on the second try, to run time off the clock) I don't know.
How does a veteran with a huge leg like Bede manage to IKOOB (liking that acronym). And then how do they let Pimpleton catch that pass to set up the walk off?
I laughed, it set up another crazy victory celebration for the RB's!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 15, 2024, 09:44:40 AMBrown didn't even have to do that. A 5Y run would have probably been enough for OTT to just kick or punt it through the EZ for a single. A single would win it. Get to the C or so and have your biggest leg hoof it as far as they can.
I knew EDM was doomed the instant they IKOOB'd.
Kick it from the C? that's a 75 yard punt (counting end zone) or a 62 yard FG. Iffy at best.
Kudos to Brown on a perfectly thrown ball with the W on the line.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 15, 2024, 09:41:08 AMNah, you want to play it normal because you might botch it on 3rd and OTT might be offside. O/S on the 1 is very common. If that happens you get a new set and you need time on the clock to try another 2-ish times.
No team should ever lose the game doing a deep KO with 6s left, unless it's a Stegall miracle TD or something.
Should have run the clock to zero on third down, Ottawa offside, you get another down, you don't score the games over, you score you go into overtime. Pretty simple. Jones mismanaged the clock, and it cost him his job. Had bede done a proper kickoff maybe the elks win in overtime and jones keeps his Jon. But botching the clock I m sure cost him his job as that is the head coaches responsibility
Quote from: dd on July 15, 2024, 10:42:22 PMShould have run the clock to zero on third down, Ottawa offside, you get another down, you don't score the games over, you score you go into overtime.
Interesting, yes I guess a penalty gives them 1 more try even with 0:00? But with 8s left you can squeeze in 2-3 more sneaks. So if they go O/S you still want clock for that 2nd and maybe 3rd extra try. It would suck if you bleed clock, get O/S with 0:00, miss, and then have no time for the 2nd try.
Quote from: Waffler on July 15, 2024, 08:42:21 PMKick it from the C? that's a 75 yard punt (counting end zone) or a 62 yard FG. Iffy at best.
Earlier in the game a kicker kicked it from the 30 and it landed basically on the goal-line. The same math would mean a kick from C could easily clear the EZ.
We've had this discussion before when Leggs cost us a game by not just going for a rouge. Arguments over doing a punt vs "FG" attempt.
Whoever can kick the farthest, your P or K, from whatever formation you need (FG unit vs punting unit), that's who you put in to hoof it for a single. If your FG unit is in, you don't even need to aim or care about the uprights: you just hoof that thing as far as humanly possible.
Dru got waaaay more yards than they needed to actually win. Good for them. Many HCs would just run it there because an INT could be disastrous and you already have guaranteed overtime in your pocket.
Too bad we didn't get to see this actually play out in reality. I really would have liked to see an on-purpose rouge-for-the-win from the team B's 50-55YL. I want to see how teams have gameplanned this out.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 15, 2024, 04:05:12 PMProblem with this theory is I don't think you could make any money on a bet that paid off if the Elks lose, it was the expected result, they always lose!
I was talking bribery/setup, not gambling. However, even with gambling you can bet on the favorite to win and still make money: just risking more than you'll win (i.e. under 2.0 decimal odds; or like $100 gets you $80 profit).
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 16, 2024, 02:29:52 AMI was talking bribery/setup, not gambling. However, even with gambling you can bet on the favorite to win and still make money: just risking more than you'll win (i.e. under 2.0 decimal odds; or like $100 gets you $80 profit).
I really don't think an investigation into Bede's bank account(s) would yield any results unless he was really feeling like taking a risk. Payment would have to be cash or some other non-traceable currency.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 16, 2024, 02:28:24 AMEarlier in the game a kicker kicked it from the 30 and it landed basically on the goal-line. The same math would mean a kick from C could easily clear the EZ.
We've had this discussion before when Leggs cost us a game by not just going for a rouge. Arguments over doing a punt vs "FG" attempt.
We have to disagree on this. A field goal of that length is the record and it has stood for 23 years. Long, low percentage ones like that also tend to come back a long way which is a risk few coaches are willing to take. As far as the rouge that also would have to travel 75 yards to clear the back of the end zone, same as a punt.
A punt I feel would never travel 75 yards in the air unless a strong wind is carrying it. It likely lands short and gets returned out if need be. You are out kicking your coverage.