As per the other thread, Lucky Whitehead may be heading back to blue & gold soon. Sounds like final deal being hammered out.
Good news for us! More vets are certainly needed. And I'm very happy to see Mafia/KW reacting to the dire situation with some actual action.
I know most of us said "pass" on Lucky as the #5 in the off-season, but the situation is now drastically different. It wasn't a slight on Lucky but more an SMS vs his known limitations calculation. I think this is a great move for this moment, and for the price I can't really think of a better WR on the couch at the moment.
Just make sure you throw it into his chest, as he still has the hands of a DB. I think Zach is perfect for that. And send him on go routes a lot: even if we don't want to pass that far, it'll clear out some space.
Nice move, WFC. Now how about a 2nd one? We have the light/fast guys (Lucky, Demski), now how about another bruiser (Woli, ?). What bruisers are still on the couch?
I don't think this is a great move. We're not throwing to the new receivers and the OL can't block. I'd consider a PR OL moving onto the AR.
The new receivers showed something today when they actually had something thrown their way.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 01:03:23 PMI don't think this is a great move. We're not throwing to the new receivers and the OL can't block. I'd consider a PR OL moving onto the AR.
The new receivers showed something today when they actually had something thrown their way.
There are simple too many rookies/first year starters playing meaningful snaps. This is not an indictment on the players themselves, or on Canadian draft picks, you just can't have this many playing this much at the same time.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 01:03:23 PMI don't think this is a great move. We're not throwing to the new receivers and the OL can't block. I'd consider a PR OL moving onto the AR.
The new receivers showed something today when they actually had something thrown their way.
I'd agree with this. Same thing in practice. That was actually the first thing I noticed when the first team is out there. Of the first 7 passes thrown last Monday, only one went to a new guy.
Sooner or later we have to build for the future.
Choosing to put all our financial eggs in a few baskets has really ended up costing us. Bombers have the belief that this team can win just one more time. Every year with fewer key pieces and so we hang on to who we deem most important. It's down to a few now and almost all are hurt. Honestly, let the young guys play. We are looking at 3rd or a cross over at best now. A Lucky Whitehead is just a patch, won't help us long term.
I'm thinking of next year when we host the cup. I'd rather some pain now if it means next year we will be in the mix. The last thing I want is a full rebuild next year.
Quote from: Waffler on June 30, 2024, 01:45:10 PMI'd agree with this. Same thing in practice. That was actually the first thing I noticed when the first team is out there. Of the first 7 passes thrown last Monday, only one went to a new guy.
Sooner or later we have to build for the future.
Choosing to put all our financial eggs in a few baskets has really ended up costing us. Bombers have the belief that this team can win just one more time. Every year with fewer key pieces and so we hang on to who we deem most important. It's down to a few now and almost all are hurt. Honestly, let the young guys play. We are looking at 3rd or a cross over at best now. A Lucky Whitehead is just a patch, won't help us long term.
I'm thinking of next year when we host the cup. I'd rather some pain now if it means next year we will be in the mix. The last thing I want is a full rebuild next year.
We can let the kids play AND have Lucky on the roster. We don't need all 5 receivers on the field to be rookies. They aren't going to experience any success like that and will end up getting cut instead of being developed.
Whitehead is a short term solution and I see nothing wrong with that. We just need an experienced receiver who can help the young players until Lawler or Shoen return. Whitehead can also return kicks so being versatile never hurts your chances of making a difference.
Two of our receivers are long time veterans. So we have 3 rookie receivers playing. Adding Lucky would change that ratio to 3 veterans and 2 rookies.
I don't know that would solve the problem.
OL issues and play calling have not been good. Does Alston get activated for the next game? He's not exactly a rookie since he was here in 2023 but he's not exactly a veteran either.
If Lucky does return what will his SMS hit be? Noting that once you sign him, we won't be able to release him after veteran cut down date. So he's not a short term solution He isn't going to sign for 3 or 4 weeks. Lawler won't return for another 4+ weeks and that takes us to LD more or less.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 03:01:08 PMTwo of our receivers are long time veterans. So we have 3 rookie receivers playing. Adding Lucky would change that ratio to 3 veterans and 2 rookies.
I don't know that would solve the problem.
OL issues and play calling have not been good. Does Alston get activated for the next game? He's not exactly a rookie since he was here in 2023 but he's not exactly a veteran either.
If Lucky does return what will his SMS hit be? Noting that once you sign him, we won't be able to release him after veteran cut down date. So he's not a short term solution He isn't going to sign for 3 or 4 weeks. Lawler won't return for another 4+ weeks and that takes us to LD more or less.
There is no magical band aid that's going to solve the problem. We're patching holes here.
I have zero worries about the SMS hit.
Lucky will give us some options but is not the silver bullet. The problem we have is at Qb.
Quote from: Jesse on June 30, 2024, 03:32:16 PMThere is no magical band aid that's going to solve the problem. We're patching holes here.
I have zero worries about the SMS hit.
SMS is always an issue. So is roster size, including the PR. Unless we have someone that actually needs to be move to the 1 game IR, then who gets cut?
If we move a rookie receiver to the 1 game IR to hide him, then that's at full ELC which doubles down adding someone like Lucky to AR. Even if Whitehead takes a low salary just above an ELC level.
Quote from: dd on June 30, 2024, 03:49:25 PMLucky will give us some options but is not the silver bullet. The problem we have is at Qb.
Disagree that the problem is the QB. I wasn't for Lucky buy I'll keep an open mind.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 01:03:23 PMI don't think this is a great move. We're not throwing to the new receivers and the OL can't block. I'd consider a PR OL moving onto the AR.
The new receivers showed something today when they actually had something thrown their way.
I agree, Lucky is the wrong type of receiver to be looking at, what they really need is a possession type receiver with good catching ability to secure first downs exactly like Bailey, not a "once in awhile/not that tough homerun hitter" like Lucky. I would suggest Greg Ellingson could still fill that role very well as a temporary implant.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 30, 2024, 04:44:18 PMI agree, Lucky is the wrong type of receiver to be looking at, what they really need is a possession type receiver with good catching ability to secure first downs exactly like Bailey, not a "once in awhile/not that tough homerun hitter" like Lucky. I would suggest Greg Ellingson could still fill that role very well as a temporary implant.
Wieneke might be a better choice.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 06:16:53 PMWieneke might be a better choice.
Never much cared for him, but agree he's a better choice than Whitehead.
Whatever happened to weineke? Had a couple decent years in Montreal, then struggled in Saskatchewan just like everyone else due to Qb issues , now he's not in the game at all??
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 03:01:08 PMIf Lucky does return what will his SMS hit be? Noting that once you sign him, we won't be able to release him after veteran cut down date. So he's not a short term solution He isn't going to sign for 3 or 4 weeks. Lawler won't return for another 4+ weeks and that takes us to LD more or less.
SMS hit is irrelevant. Schoen is done for the season, so his $230k comes off the SMS. We'll be getting Lucky for a lot less than that, and keeping him for the rest of the season.
Unlike Weineke, Lucky has played under Buck's system. His learning curve is not going to be as steep as Weineke.
Quote from: VictorRomano on June 30, 2024, 07:24:10 PMSMS hit is irrelevant. Schoen is done for the season, so his $230k comes off the SMS. We'll be getting Lucky for a lot less than that, and keeping him for the rest of the season.
Unlike Weineke, Lucky has played under Buck's system. His learning curve is not going to be as steep as Weineke.
Half of Schoen's SMS was a bonus and will still count against the SMS. Whitehead last played for Winnipeg in 2019 which is now irrelevant. Buck didn't become OC until Whitehead had left so that's irrelevant if you want to speak about irrelevant.
It's still a rumour so we'll see if he's added.
I don't think this is going to save our season, but in light of how many injuries we have, it probably won't hurt. Whether it is a rookie dropping a pass, or Lucky short arming one, same result. He might just have some magic left, though, so there is that upside. And if he's not in shape or can't figure out the playbook, we have a bushel full of apples and Goggle Maps...
Kody Case added to the PR. That will require an off setting transaction later this week. Just a guess but I could see Mitchell being released. Obviously he isn't any where near next up at receiver and we have several returners now.
The bigger question is which of Alston or Case would be next up on the AR.
In theory I would think we wouldn't be adding receivers to the PR if we were actually signing Whitehead. Perhaps he wanted too much or the rumour was just that?
Quote from: Jesse on June 30, 2024, 03:32:16 PMThere is no magical band aid that's going to solve the problem. We're patching holes here.
I have zero worries about the SMS hit.
Well, SMS is important, as BinBC said, because half of Schoen/Kenny $$ is bonus and thus not recovered on 6GIR. See the Bonus thread. And if after all our top-player injuries we still don't have enough SMS to hire a Lucky, then that proves there is something very wrong with the entire SMS system.
And Lucky will come very cheap. He was couch sitting and completely abandoned by everyone. And his ask was probably only $140k. Unless he gouged a desperate Bombers, we're likely getting him for $120k, or less. Which basically aligns with KW's "only ELC" mantra plus the small savings from Schoen/Kenny (yes, bonus excluded).
And we should have enough 6GIR savings to bring in another vet around $120k... which is exactly what I'd do if we don't find the superstar rookie in like 1-2 weeks.
And yes, the holes are so numerous now that patching them is really all we can do. At least until we stabilize the sinking. Then we can worry about the big picture. At least vets patch the holes with "Original Fix Tape" rather than straws like the rookies do.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 06:16:53 PMWieneke might be a better choice.
TD Jake would be awesome here. But didn't he basically sit out all of last season too? I like guys who have seen the field in the last 365 days.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 30, 2024, 03:01:08 PMTwo of our receivers are long time veterans. So we have 3 rookie receivers playing. Adding Lucky would change that ratio to 3 veterans and 2 rookies.
I don't know that would solve the problem.
OL issues and play calling have not been good. Does Alston get activated for the next game? He's not exactly a rookie since he was here in 2023 but he's not exactly a veteran either.
If Lucky does return what will his SMS hit be? Noting that once you sign him, we won't be able to release him after veteran cut down date. So he's not a short term solution He isn't going to sign for 3 or 4 weeks. Lawler won't return for another 4+ weeks and that takes us to LD more or less.
What can lucky demand? He's been out of the game since last year mostly! He'd be "lucky" to get vet minimum at this point. SMS hit will be peanuts especially with all the injuries.
When do the Bombers get a BYE? They need it more than ever right now to reload!
Quote from: ichabod_crane on July 01, 2024, 01:42:13 AMWhen do the Bombers get a BYE? They need it more than ever right now to reload!
Week 10.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on July 01, 2024, 01:40:45 AMWhat can lucky demand? He's been out of the game since last year mostly! He'd be "lucky" to get vet minimum at this point. SMS hit will be peanuts especially with all the injuries.
In FA he could demand nothing. But now that he knows WPG is desperate and basically screwed, he can name his price. Hopefully we play the "other guys are couch sitting too" card and both parties keep it reasonable. $120 would be reasonable. $100 would be a steal. We'll probably never know, unless Farhan makes up some number from his "insiders".
Looks like we just added Kody Case to the PR, does this mean Lucky wanted to much money?
Quote from: Pigskin on July 01, 2024, 04:49:30 PMLooks like we just added Kody Case to the PR, does this mean Lucky wanted to much money?
Lucky Whitehead posted on his IG that he signed with Winnipeg.
https://www.instagram.com/luck2fast/
Quote from: DCM on July 01, 2024, 05:26:20 PMLucky Whitehead posted on his IG that he signed with Winnipeg.
https://www.instagram.com/luck2fast/
Nice, Lucky will add some depth at WR/KR.
Quote from: Pigskin on July 01, 2024, 05:41:42 PMNice, Lucky will add some depth at WR/KR.
Well we'll see if this turns out be true and if he's at practice tomorrow. He's not a guy that is going to win 50/50 balls on the outside. That's something we need. I'm not sure where he'll fit in or how he'll be used.
I also doubt he'll be game ready by Friday on a short week of practice.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 01, 2024, 05:44:23 PMWell we'll see if this turns out be true and if he's at practice tomorrow. He's not a guy that is going to win 50/50 balls on the outside. That's something we need. I'm not sure where he'll fit in or how he'll be used.
I also doubt he'll be game ready by Friday on a short week of practice.
I'd be surprised if he can remain healthy for 5-6 games, he has until Lawler returns to show what he can do, hopefully he makes a positive contribution.
I m taking things game by game...we'll see what he can do, he's got speed which defences will have to respect and he is a return threat, gotta be better than what we've been watching
QuoteSchoen is done for the season, so his $230k comes off the SMS.
I knew he was injured but hadn't been tracking the full extent of his status. What type of injury is it that leaves him gone for the season?
Unfortunate for him to be injured late last season and now again early this season.
Quote from: Cool Spot on July 01, 2024, 07:48:27 PMI knew he was injured but hadn't been tracking the full extent of his status. What type of injury is it that leaves him gone for the season?
Unfortunate for him to be injured late last season and now again early this season.
O'Shea said it was a knee injury.
https://x.com/jeffkhamilton/status/1806815302300405992
Quote from: Cool Spot on July 01, 2024, 07:48:27 PMI knew he was injured but hadn't been tracking the full extent of his status. What type of injury is it that leaves him gone for the season?
Schoen: Almost certainly full ACL (n.b.: just my speculation). See my notes on other thread.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 01, 2024, 05:50:51 PMI'd be surprised if he can remain healthy for 5-6 games, he has until Lawler returns to show what he can do, hopefully he makes a positive contribution.
If we did what I said and gave mostly no signing bonus, then it doesn't matter how long he remains healthy. He goes down, go get another. As long as you don't waste on bonus, it's all "free" on the SMS. I would sign any vet now with no bonus, decent pay, and massive incentives. The incentives will make up for the lack of bonus.
What we need now is SMS protection so further injuries don't hurt us.
We do need bruiser receivers, yes. But we also need another deep threat / speed guy. Right now our only speed/deep threat is Demski. Both Kenny and sometimes Schoen could do that too. So with them gone we need another speed/deep threat and Lucky is exactly that.
Now when we send Demski out on go, we can have Lucky doing the same on the other side of the field to split the safety. Watch which side the FS cheats to and throw the other way.
However, the next vet pickup we make at WR needs to be a bruiser, not a featherweight.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 01, 2024, 09:47:33 PMSchoen: Almost certainly full ACL (n.b.: just my speculation). See my notes on other thread.
I would agree, since Osh said knee then not much else would be an automatic season ender. Unless more than ACL (with certain types of injuries - traumatic, during sports - the ACL and MCL can get torn together, along with a tear to the meniscus). But realistically it is still the ACL that will require the longest healing.
Quote from: Big Daddy on July 01, 2024, 09:57:55 PMI would agree, since Osh said knee then not much else would be an automatic season ender. Unless more than ACL (with certain types of injuries - traumatic, during sports - the ACL and MCL can get torn together, along with a tear to the meniscus). But realistically it is still the ACL that will require the longest healing.
This is devastating. I remember Manny Arceneaux was never the same after blowing out his knee. Shoen could be done.
Free Press reported torn ACL.
"The Bombers were without their two top receivers in Kenny Lawler
(broken arm) and Dalton Schoen, who will miss the remainder of the
season with a torn ACL."
If Lawler is his lower arm I would think that is better than hand. Maybe it is wrong, I have only heard hand until this.
Quote from: Waffler on July 01, 2024, 11:33:17 PMFree Press reported torn ACL.
"The Bombers were without their two top receivers in Kenny Lawler
(broken arm) and Dalton Schoen, who will miss the remainder of the
season with a torn ACL."
If Lawler is his lower arm I would think that is better than hand. Maybe it is wrong, I have only heard hand until this.
Can't you just drill a titanium rod into the bone, sew it up, and be playing the next day? j/k
Get better soon, Kenny. We need you.
For those of us that have never suffered a knee injury, can someone that has please tell us, in their estimation, how bad a torn ACL is? Is a tear better than a complete rupture or tendon separation from the bone? I'd have to think so. Could this be career ending or is a complete recovery possible?
It will depend on how severe the ACL injury is. My wife estimated 3-9 months, but closer to 9 months for a receiver. If, you rehab properly, 90-100% recovery.
Quote from: J5V on July 01, 2024, 10:51:45 PMThis is devastating. I remember Manny Arceneaux was never the same after blowing out his knee. Shoen could be done.
Ya, but how old was Manny Show when he suffered that? Schoen is young enough he should bounce back no problem.
Quote from: Waffler on July 01, 2024, 11:33:17 PMIf Lawler is his lower arm I would think that is better than hand. Maybe it is wrong, I have only heard hand until this.
Watching him on the sidelines it's clear he has a pretty minor cast/brace/whatever on his forearm. It didn't look to be something holding the wrist still, so my money is on forearm. And that jives precisely with where the D's helmet hit him.
Kind of a strange break to get for a receiver... but Kenny is rather lithe, like Nick Moore, and maybe more prone to breaks.
He said he won't change his bash-into-Ds style... but I'm thinking he should think twice about this in the future. A couple of YAC yards wasn't worth this. Attempt to go around the defender, maybe, but don't play like you're Strevie or Brady.
Quote from: J5V on July 02, 2024, 01:46:32 AMFor those of us that have never suffered a knee injury, can someone that has please tell us, in their estimation, how bad a torn ACL is? Is a tear better than a complete rupture or tendon separation from the bone? I'd have to think so. Could this be career ending or is a complete recovery possible?
Pigskin nailed it. I only have other CFL player histories to go on, and it always seems to be a season-ender, but often ready for next season. In contrast to an achilles where it's a season-ender and an entire year of recovery going into next season.
So 99% chance he misses the post-season (which really sucks), but also 99% chance he's starting week 1 next season... if we manage to keep him.
As for recovery success rate: I don't think I've ever heard of a CFL player around his age in recent years who had ACL and
didn't recover and keep playing. I don't expect it to affect his future play. It's not like he was a speedster anyhow.
Quote from: J5V on July 02, 2024, 01:46:32 AMFor those of us that have never suffered a knee injury, can someone that has please tell us, in their estimation, how bad a torn ACL is? Is a tear better than a complete rupture or tendon separation from the bone? I'd have to think so. Could this be career ending or is a complete recovery possible?
Having both complete (1×) and partial (2x) tears of both ACLs and MCLs through my mid-teens and early 20s, it can be real bad. Sure, you can walk on it after 4-6 months, but I was really antsy making hard cuts for the first year afterwards. Your leg just bends and flexes in ways it shouldn't when you put weight on that hard change of direction. Ultimately, after my final ACL tear (combined with a torn hamstring) I was told by Dr. Longstaff (former Bomber team doctor who I had rehabbed with before) that if I did it again, it was 50/50 that I'd spend the rest of my life walking with a cane. Wasn't willing to risk limited mobility for the rest of my life on a coin flip, so that was the end of my competitive junior football/rugby career at 22.
Didn't we have a QB that played most of a season with no ACL?
With the ACL tear being the injury that seems to both be frequent and long term, second only to achilles as season/career enders, why haven't they come out with:
a: surgery to accelerate recovery. They should have the technology to completely remove and replace an ACL with something stronger and better.
b: external bracing that prevents that motion that causes the tear. I know its not going to stop every tear, but that athletic tape that every player seems to have on them, maybe a knee wrap that mimics the tendon to take pressure off the tendon during the potential injury play. I know every brace/wrap has a limiting factor on mobility, and many won't want to wear them, but we should have better options.
Not saying any player wants to get injured, its part of the game they accept. On the other hand, they get paid the exact same whether they are on the AR, the 1 game or the 6 game.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 02, 2024, 03:42:57 PMDidn't we have a QB that played most of a season with no ACL?
With the ACL tear being the injury that seems to both be frequent and long term, second only to achilles as season/career enders, why haven't they come out with:
a: surgery to accelerate recovery. They should have the technology to completely remove and replace an ACL with something stronger and better.
b: external bracing that prevents that motion that causes the tear. I know its not going to stop every tear, but that athletic tape that every player seems to have on them, maybe a knee wrap that mimics the tendon to take pressure off the tendon during the potential injury play. I know every brace/wrap has a limiting factor on mobility, and many won't want to wear them, but we should have better options.
Not saying any player wants to get injured, its part of the game they accept. On the other hand, they get paid the exact same whether they are on the AR, the 1 game or the 6 game.
Robert Marve, didn't have any ACL's, didn't need em.
Nothing on the CFL or Winnipeg Blue Bombers sites indicating Lucky is a Bomber, yet????
Quote from: Pigskin on July 02, 2024, 06:33:49 PMNothing on the CFL or Winnipeg Blue Bombers sites indicating Lucky is a Bomber, yet????
I think Lucky jumped the gun on a discussion with the Bombers. That may not have worked out to a deal.
Quote from: Blue In BC on July 02, 2024, 07:10:39 PMI think Lucky jumped the gun on a discussion with the Bombers. That may not have worked out to a deal.
Might be why Kody Case is back??
Quote from: Pigskin on July 02, 2024, 07:40:24 PMMight be why Kody Case is back??
Can't recall was Case cut due to injury or was he outperformed by others in TC?
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 02, 2024, 08:14:24 PMCan't recall was Case cut due to injury or was he outperformed by others in TC?
Injury in TC.
Quote from: VictorRomano on July 02, 2024, 03:25:05 PMHaving both complete (1×) and partial (2x) tears of both ACLs and MCLs through my mid-teens and early 20s, it can be real bad. Sure, you can walk on it after 4-6 months, but I was really antsy making hard cuts for the first year afterwards. Your leg just bends and flexes in ways it shouldn't when you put weight on that hard change of direction. Ultimately, after my final ACL tear (combined with a torn hamstring) I was told by Dr. Longstaff (former Bomber team doctor who I had rehabbed with before) that if I did it again, it was 50/50 that I'd spend the rest of my life walking with a cane. Wasn't willing to risk limited mobility for the rest of my life on a coin flip, so that was the end of my competitive junior football/rugby career at 22.
Thanks for sharing. A friend that I was talking to today went through something similar. He was a very good goalie but those injuries derailed his ambitions of ever playing in the NHL. I'm sure you and he both made the right decision. I wonder what Dalton is going to decide to do. Time will tell.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 02, 2024, 03:42:57 PMDidn't we have a QB that played most of a season with no ACL?
Reggie Slack? I think he was on one leg with the Riders or someone else one year taking them to a loss in the GC.
FREE WILLY! Or maybe TJ Rubley the "saviour"! ;) :D What a farce that turned out to be with Reinbold. Like a comedy act! :D They did not need any ACL injuries to be pretty horrible! ;)
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"Finalizing some details." REC Lucky Whitehead should be with the Blue #Bombers soon, what's with the ground game, and Kenny Lawler sheds the cast.
Quote from: J5V on July 02, 2024, 09:46:02 PMI'm sure you and he both made the right decision. I wonder what Dalton is going to decide to do. Time will tell.
Top WR, super highly paid, first big injury... ya, there's no question what he's going to do! You rehab and keep going!
Now, after multiple knee problems... then you start asking yourself questions like that.
Quote from: ModAdmin on July 03, 2024, 04:33:47 AM"Finalizing some details." REC Lucky Whitehead should be with the Blue #Bombers soon, what's with the ground game, and Kenny Lawler sheds the cast.
Not worried at all. Lucky trying to squeeze every dime he can out of desperate KW, probably on the "extras" like housing, etc.
And we're probably trying to do what I said: minimize the bonus (ideally $0). Lucky is injury-prone and we can't lose any more non-recoverable SMS space. Give him crazy incentive-heavy contract and be done with it! $2k a TD! $2 every 100+ yard game. Etc.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 03, 2024, 08:14:14 AMNot worried at all. Lucky trying to squeeze every dime he can out of desperate KW, probably on the "extras" like housing, etc.
And we're probably trying to do what I said: minimize the bonus (ideally $0). Lucky is injury-prone and we can't lose any more non-recoverable SMS space. Give him crazy incentive-heavy contract and be done with it! $2k a TD! $2 every 100+ yard game. Etc.
In his media time yesterday O'Shea didn't sound all that sold on bringing Lucky in, wanted to evaluate his readiness first so maybe it's not a done deal. Could bring him in for a looksee and release him shortly afterward.
Ya, I can see MOS not being keen on bringing a player in from the outside world. He's all about the players in the room and not creating any controversy in the locker room, thats just who he is
Quote from: J5V on July 02, 2024, 01:46:32 AMFor those of us that have never suffered a knee injury, can someone that has please tell us, in their estimation, how bad a torn ACL is? Is a tear better than a complete rupture or tendon separation from the bone? I'd have to think so. Could this be career ending or is a complete recovery possible?
After ~3 weeks from an injury, your body enters the phase called remodeling, which can last four to six weeks for minor injuries (grade I and II tears) to as long as a year or more for more severe injuries (tendon or ligament ruptures). Your body constantly remodels tissue, but blood flow to ligaments isn't great which is why it takes so long to heal. That's why you shouldn't return to a sport any sooner than nine months after an injury like an ACL tear.
Even if you have no pain, you shouldn't push on the tissue before it's ready because it increases the likelihood of re-injury. You have to work on rebuilding tissue capacity through resistance training and a slow reintegration into the sports/activities you've been avoiding since the injury.
Source: Rehab Science (https://www.amazon.com/Rehab-Science-Injury-MovementThe-Complete/dp/1628601396).
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 03, 2024, 08:14:14 AMNot worried at all. Lucky trying to squeeze every dime he can out of desperate KW, probably on the "extras" like housing, etc.
And we're probably trying to do what I said: minimize the bonus (ideally $0). Lucky is injury-prone and we can't lose any more non-recoverable SMS space. Give him crazy incentive-heavy contract and be done with it! $2k a TD! $2 every 100+ yard game. Etc.
According to Farhan the delay is not related to the contract.
Well what is it?
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For those asking why Lucky's deal hasn't been made official yet, he had been dealing with some paperwork issues (not contract related). I'm told those have been resolved & I would expect him to be joining #Bombers within the next few days
Not what the Bombers need. He gets injured all the time, is too small and past his prime. Bombers need someone who can make plays in traffic and extend their bodies and arms to make those tough catches. Lucky ain't it.
Obviously Whitehead won't be playing this week. I'd think it will take 2 weeks to get familiar with the playbook and get back to being physically ready. By then Lawler could be ready to come off the 6 game IR.
That will open up the rest of the receivers regardless of who they are or where they line up.
We just have to get through this game and the next two perhaps. Two wins out 3 would be a good start.
Nothing official but there are some suggesting that paperwork issue was an expired passport
Quote from: Stats Junkie on July 03, 2024, 09:20:04 PMNothing official but there are some suggesting that paperwork issue was an expired passport
If it is and he can't keep his passport up to date was he even expecting another shot? You have to question what kind of shape he is in.
Quote from: dd on July 03, 2024, 05:43:28 PMYa, I can see MOS not being keen on bringing a player in from the outside world. He's all about the players in the room and not creating any controversy in the locker room, thats just who he is
Of course not, he loves losing! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ModAdmin on July 03, 2024, 07:46:04 PMFor those asking why Lucky's deal hasn't been made official yet, he had been dealing with some paperwork issues (not contract related). I'm told those have been resolved & I would expect him to be joining #Bombers within the next few days
Yay! Maybe right after signing and getting a big bonus he revealed he has a DUI guilty-plea that makes him ineligible to enter Canada. Yay!
;) ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D :D :o :o :o
For the /s impaired: that's a joke
Quote from: blueandgoldguy on July 03, 2024, 07:58:36 PMNot what the Bombers need. He gets injured all the time, is too small and past his prime. Bombers need someone who can make plays in traffic and extend their bodies and arms to make those tough catches. Lucky ain't it.
We need both types of receivers. We had 2 or 3 deep threats before all the injuries. Now we have 1. With Lucky we'll have 2. Injuries don't mean anything if we didn't give him a bonus...
Next couch-sitter we nab needs to be a clutch bruiser. One thing at a time.
Quote from: Stats Junkie on July 03, 2024, 09:20:04 PMNothing official but there are some suggesting that paperwork issue was an expired passport
Surely that can't be the issue. That would go from strange to comical. Why would a guy sitting on the couch waiting for CFL calls all day not keep on top of his lasts-5(or 10)-years-passport expiry? Wouldn't his agent stay on top of this? Are we the laughing stock of the CFL now for USA player issues?
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 03, 2024, 10:06:12 PMOf course not, he loves losing! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
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Quote from: Waffler on July 03, 2024, 10:01:44 PMIf it is and he can't keep his passport up to date was he even expecting another shot? You have to question what kind of shape he is in.
Agreed if this is the case it could be the definition of stupudity.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 03, 2024, 10:08:55 PMWe need both types of receivers. We had 2 or 3 deep threats before all the injuries. Now we have 1. With Lucky we'll have 2. Injuries don't mean anything if we didn't give him a bonus...
Next couch-sitter we nab needs to be a clutch bruiser. One thing at a time.
I don't like the guy but I think Shaq Evans would be a better option than Lucky, if you think about it there are quite a few receivers they could have dug up including Uncle Manny!
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 04, 2024, 12:54:28 AMI don't like the guy but I think Shaq Evans would be a better option than Lucky, if you think about it there are quite a few receivers they could have dug up including Uncle Manny!
I would have also been happy with Shaq, and I never liked him at all. Then again, I'd be happy with around (at least) half the vet current-couch-sitters! There's actually lots to choose from.
But I'd pass on Manny Show! For the same reason I'd pass on ol' Darvin Adams too: too long without reps.