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Title: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: ModAdmin on June 24, 2024, 02:56:18 PM
Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024

WINNIPEG, MB., June 24, 2024 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Added to practice roster:

American receiver Ravi Alston (6-3, 210, Montana State)
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Blue In BC on June 24, 2024, 02:59:05 PM
That suggests at least 1 of Wheatfall or Schoen is headed to 1 game IR or worse. We might see additional players brought in as a couple of possible injuries from the last game are evaluated.

IIRC, the team was high on Alston but he might have been nicked during TC? He was with the team late in 2023.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 24, 2024, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 24, 2024, 02:56:18 PMBlue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024

WINNIPEG, MB., June 24, 2024 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the following transactions:

Added to practice roster:

American receiver Ravi Alston (6-3, 210, Montana State)


Wow, they're down to regurgitating their first cuts, not inspiring.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Jesse on June 24, 2024, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 24, 2024, 03:54:46 PMWow, they're down to regurgitating their first cuts, not inspiring.


Not much choice at this point.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Blueforlife on June 24, 2024, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 24, 2024, 03:54:46 PMWow, they're down to regurgitating their first cuts, not inspiring.


How about we judge the player in practice and or game action 1st.  Big opportunity here.  Maybe he will shine.

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 24, 2024, 02:59:05 PMThat suggests at least 1 of Wheatfall or Schoen is headed to 1 game IR or worse. We might see additional players brought in as a couple of possible injuries from the last game are evaluated.

IIRC, the team was high on Alston but he might have been nicked during TC? He was with the team late in 2023.


Thanks for the info.  Good to know he was around last year.  Gives me hope!

Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: theaardvark on June 24, 2024, 04:45:31 PM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 24, 2024, 03:54:46 PMWow, they're down to regurgitating their first cuts, not inspiring.


Rather they regurgitate other teams first cuts?

We had 4 returning starting WR.  Which meant one starting opening on the AR, maybe one backup and 2 on the PR.  20+ candidates competing for 4 spots.  "Regurgitating" our cuts alone leaves lots of candidates.

Depending on the injury status of Schoen and Wheatfall, there may be potential for picking up a more veteran player, maybe with higher expectations than a TC spot for a 1 in 6 chance at making a PR.  I don't doubt that there are players with NFL dreams that skipped the CFL training camp with hopes they'd land and impress at NFL tryouts.  Some of those (most, probably) did not get the offers they were hoping for.  All we need is one of them to look north and see the opportunity presented here.

I know the UFL / NFL have a co-operation agreement, but just wondering if there is a restriction on UFL players signing in the CFL, or if the contracts are even in force after their championship.  There were a lot of decent UFL receivers that won't get an NFL sniff that could do well up here.  I wonder if our scouts as our players if they know anyone.  Like the Nichols / Bonds situation.

I don't see Agudosi on any roster, maybe he's healed up?  Or are we gunshy over easily injured players at the moment?

Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
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Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 24, 2024, 05:16:34 PM
My guess is they will play Josh Johnson in Schoen's spot and Ravi Alston will play in the Lawler/Wheatfall wide out spot.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: theaardvark on June 24, 2024, 05:40:16 PM
Saw a post on FB stating someone had good intel that they had signed Brayden Lenius... 
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Pigskin on June 24, 2024, 05:40:53 PM
Alston is a big receiver that should know our offence as he spent some time here last fall.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Blue In BC on June 24, 2024, 06:40:36 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 24, 2024, 05:40:16 PMSaw a post on FB stating someone had good intel that they had signed Brayden Lenius... 

He's only played 8 games in the last 2 seasons for less than 200 yards in total. Depth maybe but he's not going to be a # 1 or # 2 receiver.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Ridermania on June 24, 2024, 07:30:09 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 24, 2024, 05:40:16 PMSaw a post on FB stating someone had good intel that they had signed Brayden Lenius... 

He is still injured, that was the reason Riders released him.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Pigskin on June 24, 2024, 07:57:25 PM
Heading to practice tomorrow. Should be interesting to see who is on the field.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 24, 2024, 08:03:55 PM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 24, 2024, 04:45:31 PMRather they regurgitate other teams first cuts?

We had 4 returning starting WR.  Which meant one starting opening on the AR, maybe one backup and 2 on the PR.  20+ candidates competing for 4 spots.  "Regurgitating" our cuts alone leaves lots of candidates.

Depending on the injury status of Schoen and Wheatfall, there may be potential for picking up a more veteran player, maybe with higher expectations than a TC spot for a 1 in 6 chance at making a PR.  I don't doubt that there are players with NFL dreams that skipped the CFL training camp with hopes they'd land and impress at NFL tryouts.  Some of those (most, probably) did not get the offers they were hoping for.  All we need is one of them to look north and see the opportunity presented here.

I know the UFL / NFL have a co-operation agreement, but just wondering if there is a restriction on UFL players signing in the CFL, or if the contracts are even in force after their championship.  There were a lot of decent UFL receivers that won't get an NFL sniff that could do well up here.  I wonder if our scouts as our players if they know anyone.  Like the Nichols / Bonds situation.

I don't see Agudosi on any roster, maybe he's healed up?  Or are we gunshy over easily injured players at the moment?

I'd be all over Agudosi, having Schoen and Lawler both out would be his dream come true.  Don't know if there was bad blood when he left town, but he's the preferable candidate for at least one spot right now.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Waffler on June 24, 2024, 09:16:37 PM
For sure it is to replace Schoen. He's officailly on the 6 game.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: M.O.A.B. on June 24, 2024, 09:28:50 PM
https://3downnation.com/2024/06/24/b-c-lions-release-former-nfl-receiver-travis-fulgham/

This guy might worth a look-see
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: M.O.A.B. on June 24, 2024, 09:38:45 PM
WR Murphy is now added to AR. Four Canadian receivers now in AR.
DB Karamoko is moved to PR. I'm guessing one of LB Ogbevoen and LB Weitz will come on.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Waffler on June 24, 2024, 09:41:08 PM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 24, 2024, 09:28:50 PMhttps://3downnation.com/2024/06/24/b-c-lions-release-former-nfl-receiver-travis-fulgham/

This guy might worth a look-see

Get him here NOW! This guy has talent.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Blue In BC on June 24, 2024, 09:50:37 PM
Quote from: Waffler on June 24, 2024, 09:41:08 PMGet him here NOW! This guy has talent.

Why did the Lions cut him then?

Sucks to now lose Schoen to 6 game IR which could be even longer.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: theaardvark on June 24, 2024, 09:52:12 PM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 24, 2024, 09:28:50 PMhttps://3downnation.com/2024/06/24/b-c-lions-release-former-nfl-receiver-travis-fulgham/

This guy might worth a look-see

6 of 16 for 98 yards... would put him 3rd on our active roster WR's...
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Blue In BC on June 24, 2024, 09:57:50 PM
Wheatfall is gone to 6 game IR as well as Schoen. Geez, we can't catch a break.

Woods and Alexander not practising today. Nothing indicating they might not dress, but there could be more changes to the roster.

Interesting the transactions shows Karamoko moved to PR and Murphy added. We might see some version of Murphy and Clercius starting due to all the receiver injuries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Waffler on June 24, 2024, 10:13:18 PM
Murphy was taking the first team reps but it's only Monday, could change.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: BomberFan73 on June 24, 2024, 10:19:59 PM
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 24, 2024, 06:40:36 PMHe's only played 8 games in the last 2 seasons for less than 200 yards in total. Depth maybe but he's not going to be a # 1 or # 2 receiver.

We don't need a #1 or #2
At some point Lawler & Schoen will be back. What we need is someone who knows the game and can be at least get open. 
We need Bailey 2.0.
Lets just hope someone takes this opportunity and doesn't let go.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: dd on June 24, 2024, 10:23:58 PM
Remember Kenny Lawler was cut by the BC Lions.....and he turned out pretty good
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: BomberFan73 on June 24, 2024, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: dd on June 24, 2024, 10:23:58 PMRemember Kenny Lawler was cut by the BC Lions.....and he turned out pretty good

Exactly.  I don't know why some of us are worried about picking the scraps from other teams. 
We are that desperate right now!
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 25, 2024, 12:21:46 AM
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 24, 2024, 09:50:37 PMWhy did the Lions cut him then?


My guess is Berryhill, he is berry good.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Go_Big_D on June 25, 2024, 02:18:55 AM
this season is a wash...makes the past 2 cup runs and games all the more important as one never knows when and if a team can come back....should have been more serious in there game approach in the grey cup games
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:40:19 AM
Quote from: Jesse on June 24, 2024, 04:01:54 PMNot much choice at this point.

Yes there is, vets -- couch sitters.

Quote from: BomberFan73 on June 24, 2024, 10:19:59 PMWe don't need a #1 or #2
At some point Lawler & Schoen will be back. What we need is someone who knows the game and can be at least get open. 

We 100% need a #1 and #2.  It's likely 6-10 weeks before we get either of Schoen/Lawler back.  What do we do until then?  Continue major suckage?  If our O was weak with the top 2 paid stars, what are we going to be like without them?
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:41:11 AM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 24, 2024, 05:40:16 PMSaw a post on FB stating someone had good intel that they had signed Brayden Lenius...

Not my first choice, but he fits the bill as a vet.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:43:44 AM
Quote from: Waffler on June 24, 2024, 09:16:37 PMFor sure it is to replace Schoen. He's officailly on the 6 game.

Told ya guys.  It didn't look good at all.  What injuries require 2 guys to drag you off the field while you put no weight on a leg?  First to mind is achilles, but I don't think it's that.  If it is, we're completely fubar.

The huge question is: season-ender or not?  I fear we're going get nothing other than "lower body" injury for the next 6, then 10, then 13 weeks...  Has Mafia ever announced something was a season ender, or is it always "we're hopeful".
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:44:50 AM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 24, 2024, 09:28:50 PMfulgham

This guy might worth a look-see

But he's just a noob like all our noobs.  Not sure why we'd think their scouts are better than our scouts.  Maybe they are.

Fulgham was making some surprising plays for BC the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:46:33 AM
Quote from: Go_Big_D on June 25, 2024, 02:18:55 AMthis season is a wash...makes the past 2 cup runs and games all the more important as one never knows when and if a team can come back....should have been more serious in there game approach in the grey cup games

100%.  That falls entirely on MOS and the coords and all the positional coaches.  But especially Buck and MOS.  They played it like any other game.  They didn't get creative and go the extra mile.  I thought we would have learned after 2022, but we didn't, and made all the same mistakes.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: M.O.A.B. on June 25, 2024, 03:18:32 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:44:50 AMBut he's just a noob like all our noobs.  Not sure why we'd think their scouts are better than our scouts.  Maybe they are.

Fulgham was making some surprising plays for BC the last few weeks.

I say Rigmaiden is better than our scouts combined.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 03:26:30 AM
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 25, 2024, 03:18:32 AMI say Rigmaiden is better than our scouts combined.

Rigmaiden may have been the secret sauce.  Wasn't he still here when we found Schoen?  Since that year we have found zero players of high value (a la Schoen, Alford).

We have come to expect we scout a top 20 player every 2 years.  We were doing it with Rigmaiden.  It's been 2 years and we've gotten nothing.

If Fulgham is a Rigmaiden find, then maybe he is worth peeking at.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: theaardvark on June 25, 2024, 03:50:24 AM
Just rewatching the game, and Fulgham coughed it up bad...
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 25, 2024, 04:24:20 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:40:19 AMYes there is, vets -- couch sitters.

We 100% need a #1 and #2.  It's likely 6-10 weeks before we get either of Schoen/Lawler back.  What do we do until then?  Continue major suckage?  If our O was weak with the top 2 paid stars, what are we going to be like without them?

It's going to be tough sledding, unlike V.A., Trevor Harris or Matt Nichols, Zach does not  make a habit of spreading the ball around alot, he picks his favourites and throws to them repeatedly.  Agudosi and BOLO were both ignored for the most part and some of the rookie receivers this year have been getting the same treatment.  Now Zach has no choice, every pass can't go to Demski or Woli.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 04:37:46 AM
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 25, 2024, 04:24:20 AMIt's going to be tough sledding, unlike V.A., Trevor Harris or Matt Nichols, Zach does not  make a habit of spreading the ball around alot, he picks his favourites and throws to them repeatedly.  Agudosi and BOLO were both ignored for the most part and some of the rookie receivers this year have been getting the same treatment.  Now Zach has no choice, every pass can't go to Demski or Woli.

Not true.  In '19, '21 he was certainly spreading the ball to everyone, and that was a core strength of ours: our NATs were legit rather than decoys, and every IMP could contribute.

However, in '23 and maybe starting in '22, Buck & Zach did start focusing more on the hot hand Rs... it was a regression of sorts.  The best teams spread it out, we're not a "best team" right now.

Keep in mind this is probably as much Buck as Zach.  If the "lesser" Rs are running clearing and decoy routes because of Buck, then Zach can't throw their way.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: Waffler on June 25, 2024, 02:04:10 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 25, 2024, 02:44:50 AMBut he's just a noob like all our noobs.  Not sure why we'd think their scouts are better than our scouts.  Maybe they are.

Fulgham was making some surprising plays for BC the last few weeks.
Fulgham has more than just NFL PR experience as most do. He's a former starter with a 10 catch 152 yard game on his resume.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeN_3V8zIfc
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 26, 2024, 03:09:14 AM
Quote from: Waffler on June 25, 2024, 02:04:10 PMFulgham has more than just NFL PR experience as most do. He's a former starter with a 10 catch 152 yard game on his resume.

Ya, but noob in CFL, and that's really what matters.  We've seen so many times that some NFL time often doesn't equate to bupkis when they come up here.  I'd say as many raw out-of-U IMPs and never-went-to-U IMPs make it in the CFL as had-NFL-reps IMPs.

I guess it's gravy and means something, I just don't think it's that much.  Look at Schoen and Kenny: zero live NFL snaps.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: dd on June 26, 2024, 03:37:37 AM
Hey with where we re st with injuries this guy would be a welcomed addition. Who are we kidding here?.
Title: Re: Blue Bombers Transactions - June 24, 2024
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 26, 2024, 04:22:14 AM
Quote from: dd on June 26, 2024, 03:37:37 AMHey with where we re st with injuries this guy would be a welcomed addition. Who are we kidding here?.

Sure.  But my point for 2 weeks now is we need CFL vets, not more 0-to-20-CFL-snaps rookies.  We can't field 3 rookies + Demski + Woli and expect to win squat.  Changing 1 or 2 of the 3 rookies into CFL vets would make all the difference.

But yes, if we're stuck with 0-snap rookies, might as well take Fulgham, how can it be any worse??  (And the reason they let Fulgham go is that Berryhill guy was making vet-level plays and clutch receptions vs us, he actually sealed the game away at the end.  Boy, would have been nice if we had scouted him.)