With Lawler out for awhile, Schoen not looking good on crutches, that is a huge loss.
Wheatfall was starting to look good, and then poof. Wilson has done little considering his opportunity.
All we have is Demski & Woli, both who had great games last week. We had to line up Strev at WR for cripes sake!
We need to nab a WR off someone's PR. And we need to do it yesterday.
Mitchell/JoJo/Wilson/Demski/Woli is easily the worst group in the league.
No kidding. Our receivers have been hard hit. I don't know whether there are any receivers on other teams PR's worth looking at and I doubt that is what we do.
My feeling is that we look again to our last cuts and see if any are worth bringing back for another look on the PR. In any case, that won't directly help us this week.
If Schoen and Wheatfall can't play then I think Johnson gets activated and we may actually see Clercius get a chance to start.
And back in Toronto, Bailey is laughing at us!! He's having a whale of a season and the cheapskates in Winnipeg who couldn't 'afford' him, have their 2 high priced receivers on the IR. Talk about irony!!
I could see the Bombers bring back Kody Case or Sy Barnett. If DS83 is gone long term, someone with CFL experience like Lucky. Hey, Darvin Adams is out there. I would think KL89 is at least 3 weeks away from practicing.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 23, 2024, 04:19:13 PMI could see the Bombers bring back Kody Case or Sy Barnett. If DS83 is gone long term, someone with CFL experience like Lucky. Hey, Darvin Adams is out there. I would think KL89 is at least 3 weeks away from practicing.
Ya, Case is who I thought of if they went the route of who was here a few weeks ago in camp. He's the guy that was with the Colts, right?
I'd like to see us nab someone off a PR though, when was the lasttime that happened?
Quote from: BomberFan73 on June 23, 2024, 04:38:12 PMYa, Case is who I thought of if they went the route of who was here a few weeks ago in camp. He's the guy that was with the Colts, right?
I'd like to see us nab someone off a PR though, when was the lasttime that happened?
Most teams don't bother since they are just unknown / unproven just like our rookies on the PPR or released in final cuts.
At least our rookies went through TC with us and have a step up.
I looked through the PR's on other teams. Something like a dozen or so receivers that I've never heard about.
There are 100's of WR out there that our scouts have looked at and have considered.
On the other hand, there are dozens that have a full season of UFL film to consider.
Why we don't grab someone out of the UFL ranks, I'm not sure. Its not contract issues, or the players having any faith that the UFL will play next year...
That coes for DL and DB's as well.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 23, 2024, 04:41:46 PMMost teams don't bother since they are just unknown / unproven just like our rookies on the PPR or released in final cuts.
At least our rookies went through TC with us and have a step up.
I looked through the PR's on other teams. Something like a dozen or so receivers that I've never heard about.
But did you know of Mitchell, Wheatfall, Johnson & Wilson before this year? My point is that for a team that hasn't had any WR injuries, they could have a stud guy who almost made the active roster just waiting in the wings. If we bring back a guy like say Case, he was like 4th or 5th in our PR pecking order to start the year, and the others were deemed better.
But then again, a guy like Case does know the players & system.
Quote from: BomberFan73 on June 23, 2024, 07:00:18 PMBut did you know of Mitchell, Wheatfall, Johnson & Wilson before this year? My point is that for a team that hasn't had any WR injuries, they could have a stud guy who almost made the active roster just waiting in the wings. If we bring back a guy like say Case, he was like 4th or 5th in our PR pecking order to start the year, and the others were deemed better.
But then again, a guy like Case does know the players & system.
The difference is that these are players we scouted and may have had on our neg list for years. Whether we have nearly as much knowledge about other players across the CFL is doubtful. Yes, a player on a neg list or cut by another team could turn out to be a stud. Odds are against it though. Pulling a player from another teams PR seldom happens and it usually requires immediately activating him and possibly some sort of trade with the other team. Giving up a neg list or some consideration.
Lawler was a TC cut by the Lions when we 1st signed him.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 23, 2024, 05:48:11 PMThere are 100's of WR out there that our scouts have looked at and have considered.
On the other hand, there are dozens that have a full season of UFL film to consider.
Why we don't grab someone out of the UFL ranks, I'm not sure. Its not contract issues, or the players having any faith that the UFL will play next year...
That coes for DL and DB's as well.
The UFL doesn't have an agreement to allow players to sign in the CFL. They have that agreement with the NFL.
Their current plan was to increase the number of teams by 4 for the 2025 season. Whether the league survives past next week or actually add more teams, it will take some time to see.
Quite a few players were signed in the CFL when the XFL and USFL merged and had less teams in the UFL.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 23, 2024, 04:19:13 PMI could see the Bombers bring back Kody Case or Sy Barnett. If DS83 is gone long term, someone with CFL experience like Lucky. Hey, Darvin Adams is out there. I would think KL89 is at least 3 weeks away from practicing.
Hard pass on Lucky and Adams
Short term we will bring back cuts / PR guys. Medium term might need a guy or two (vet) if injuries drag (I don't think we will). Long term at this moment I think we are ok as hopefully guys will heal quick.
Quote from: Blueforlife on June 24, 2024, 04:11:41 AMHard pass on Lucky and Adams
Short term we will bring back cuts / PR guys. Medium term might need a guy or two (vet) if injuries drag (I don't think we will). Long term at this moment I think we are ok as hopefully guys will heal quick.
I guess you missed the sarcasm with bring back Adams.
Quote from: BomberFan73 on June 23, 2024, 07:00:18 PMBut did you know of Mitchell, Wheatfall, Johnson & Wilson before this year? My point is that for a team that hasn't had any WR injuries, they could have a stud guy who almost made the active roster just waiting in the wings. If we bring back a guy like say Case, he was like 4th or 5th in our PR pecking order to start the year, and the others were deemed better.
But then again, a guy like Case does know the players & system.
I thought Case was one of the receivers cut because they were injured in TC, if not him someone else. Usually the Bombers give players this happens to a second crack to try again.
Quote from: Blueforlife on June 24, 2024, 04:11:41 AMHard pass on Lucky and Adams
Short term we will bring back cuts / PR guys. Medium term might need a guy or two (vet) if injuries drag (I don't think we will). Long term at this moment I think we are ok as hopefully guys will heal quick.
My bad makes more sense now lol. Hard miss on my part lol.
Quote from: dd on June 23, 2024, 03:51:31 PMAnd back in Toronto, Bailey is laughing at us!! He's having a whale of a season and the cheapskates in Winnipeg who couldn't 'afford' him, have their 2 high priced receivers on the IR. Talk about irony!!
Ironically, if we had kept Bailey (we were probably only $20k away), he'd now be our #1 IMP WR and probably #2 target and be getting tons of looks. That's what he always wanted.
And he'd be super fired up and step up to the plate 100%, just like he is in TOR.
Now we're down to no one and his buddy. Our #1 and #2 Rs are NATs now. Ya sure they are super awesome NATs, but it's a sad day in a CFL team when you have zero IMP WR talent starting! Unprecedented.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 23, 2024, 04:19:13 PMI could see the Bombers bring back Kody Case or Sy Barnett. If DS83 is gone long term, someone with CFL experience like Lucky. Hey, Darvin Adams is out there. I would think KL89 is at least 3 weeks away from practicing.
Lucky would be a great pick up, and he's cheap. Helpfully, Zach's feather-touch passes are actually perfect for a body-catcher like "No Hands" Lucky.
I don't know if the Darvin comment was a joke, but whilst he would have been an option last year, he isn't this year because it's been 1.5 years since he took a snap. Besides, tons of other guys on the couch. Ellingson, Ambles, and like 100 more vets.
No to Lucky, Darvin or any other of the guys that have aged out. Won't help much. We've got a whole season left to play and should be looking with one eye to next year. Bring in guys and let's find a player or two.
O'Shea claims the rookies were the best group we've had in many years. Those released were caught in either a numbers game or early injury as was the case with Alston.
That said, chemistry is very important as well as talent and upside. Needing to start 3 rookies in the CFL is going to be painful regardless of long term development.
If the team was 2 - 1 instead of 0 - 3 we might be able to absorb a downturn in the team performance.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 25, 2024, 01:19:10 PMO'Shea claims the rookies were the best group we've had in many years. Those released were caught in either a numbers game or early injury as was the case with Alston.
That said, chemistry is very important as well as talent and upside. Needing to start 3 rookies in the CFL is going to be painful regardless of long term development.
If the team was 2 - 1 instead of 0 - 3 we might be able to absorb a downturn in the team performance.
Buck has to reduce his playbook for simplicity sake and Zach has to start thinking about getting first downs instead of throwing homerun balls.
It might have been a strong group, but I think Case and Barnett were guys that should still be here. Injury could have played into that.
I'd like to see us pluck Makai Polk off the Argos PR if he goes back there.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 25, 2024, 03:32:41 PMIt might have been a strong group, but I think Case and Barnett were guys that should still be here. Injury could have played into that.
I think they did have injury issues which led to their release. OTOH, they may not have been willing to accept a PR spot.
The PR spot may now have evolved to near immediate roll on the AR due to injuries to starters. Bombers might still be trying to contact or bring them back?
We'll see how next man up perform this week.
Because we've had Clercius and Murphy around for a more extended period, we may actually see 3 starting Canadian receivers this week.
That would give another import spot on defence. The problem there is we don't have another position to use a PR player to start per se.
On defence we already had Kramdi and Thomas starting so we could have gone import at one of those spots before.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 25, 2024, 03:59:52 PMI think they did have injury issues which led to their release. OTOH, they may not have been willing to accept a PR spot.
The PR spot may now have evolved to near immediate roll on the AR due to injuries to starters. Bombers might still be trying to contact or bring them back?
We'll see how next man up perform this week.
Because we've had Clercius and Murphy around for a more extended period, we may actually see 3 starting Canadian receivers this week.
That would give another import spot on defence. The problem there is we don't have another position to use a PR player to start per se.
On defence we already had Kramdi and Thomas starting so we could have gone import at one of those spots before.
I think Clercius filled in for Whetfall at receiver after he went down last week, both received no pass attempts. Hoping they groom him as an inside receiver to replace Bailey and let him put his physicality to good use. Not a good location for him on the far side of the field.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 25, 2024, 06:03:18 PMI think Clercius filled in for Whetfall at receiver after he went down last week, both received no pass attempts. Hoping they groom him as an inside receiver to replace Bailey and let him put his physicality to good use. Not a good location for him on the far side of the field.
I don't disagree. Just thinking we don't have enough imports on the PR that have been here for longer than a week. Alston will just have a couple of practices and game speed and conditioning might not be ready this week.
Alston was here last fall. He should know our O. As far as conditioning? But, he looked very fit on the two bombs he caught today.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 25, 2024, 08:58:14 PMAlston was here last fall. He should know our O. As far as conditioning? But, he looked very fit on the two bombs he caught today.
I'm sure he'll be ahead of some others with knowledge of the playbook. He probably has been working out waiting to get back. It's the endurance question that might be an issue. He might be the receiver going deeper, faster more often but we'll see how he holds up if he gets in this week.
Quote from: dd on June 23, 2024, 03:51:31 PMAnd back in Toronto, Bailey is laughing at us!! He's having a whale of a season and the cheapskates in Winnipeg who couldn't 'afford' him, have their 2 high priced receivers on the IR. Talk about irony!!
Yeah well it's easy to cry sour grapes and I TOLD YOU SO when the unfortunate happens. Maybe they should have kept Raschid, maybe not. I'm not in the decision room making those choices. Not easy when you got a salary cap to keep EVERYONE Happy! So you live with it the best you can. Play a few hunches/gambles and hope it works out. It's just how the ball bounces. O'Shea and Walters not intentionally looking to sabotage the Bombers, just not their year so far.
A LONG SEASON yet. Nobody has won ANYTHING so far. Just make the playoffs and Bombers could be scary if all these injured guys can come back healthy and with major motivation of being criticized right now. Oilers down 3 zip and roar back. Unfortunate they lost game 7, but shows it's never over until it's OVER!! :) A bounce here or two last night and they are whooping it up in the City of Chumps! ;) :D
Wolitarsky slides to Schoen's spot, Clercius into Woli's spot... just makes sense.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2024, 07:32:03 PMWolitarsky slides to Schoen's spot, Clercius into Woli's spot... just makes sense.
Maybe. Hard to know if we add 2 import receivers, if both will start or will be more rotational players.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2024, 07:32:03 PMWolitarsky slides to Schoen's spot, Clercius into Woli's spot... just makes sense.
...not really.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 26, 2024, 07:32:03 PMWolitarsky slides to Schoen's spot, Clercius into Woli's spot... just makes sense.
I like it.
Which part doesn't make sense to the nay sayers? The Woli moving inside part, or the fact we're starting an extra NAT when we don't need to? I actually think Clercius has looked pretty darn good compared to the (unhurt) IMPs (based on PS looks).
And Woli moving inside is a great idea. He can do more blocking and also run the brutally punishing inside routes, slants, curls. Woli's body is similar to Bailey's and he's more than capable of making the clutch catches and hanging on.
Plus, by being closer to the QB he'll be getting more targets, and since he's now basically our #2 best R, this will be important to getting any traction on O.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 27, 2024, 02:15:51 AMI like it.
Which part doesn't make sense to the nay sayers? The Woli moving inside part, or the fact we're starting an extra NAT when we don't need to? I actually think Clercius has looked pretty darn good compared to the (unhurt) IMPs (based on PS looks).
And Woli moving inside is a great idea. He can do more blocking and also run the brutally punishing inside routes, slants, curls. Woli's body is similar to Bailey's and he's more than capable of making the clutch catches and hanging on.
Plus, by being closer to the QB he'll be getting more targets, and since he's now basically our #2 best R, this will be important to getting any traction on O.
We've only got 2 starters left, so moving Woli is not my favourite or 1st option. Starting 3 Canadians suggests that our scouting of import receivers wasn't very good, although some of them have suffered injuries.
Nothing against Clercius but this is not a 1 game issue so we need to see what the imports can do. Failing that find more imports on defence ( DT ) that can beef up that side of our roster. Starting 10 Canadians and losing is the worst situation.
Not trying to knock our Canadian talent but it isn't working in our favour to be starting 10.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 27, 2024, 01:24:32 PMWe've only got 2 starters left, so moving Woli is not my favourite or 1st option. Starting 3 Canadians suggests that our scouting of import receivers wasn't very good, although some of them have suffered injuries.
Nothing against Clercius but this is not a 1 game issue so we need to see what the imports can do. Failing that find more imports on defence ( DT ) that can beef up that side of our roster. Starting 10 Canadians and losing is the worst situation.
Not trying to knock our Canadian talent but it isn't working in our favour to be starting 10.
The way I see it Zach has become an off script QB who relies heavily on receivers already knowing how to accommodate his penchant to scramble, so any receiver that has been here for awhile and has worked with him will have a leg up understanding what he's doing back there. It's a lot to ask new receivers to learn their position and be disciplined in their route running but also be prepared to cut off their route at the drop of a hat and improvise on any given play.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 27, 2024, 01:24:32 PMWe've only got 2 starters left, so moving Woli is not my favourite or 1st option. Starting 3 Canadians suggests that our scouting of import receivers wasn't very good, although some of them have suffered injuries.
Nothing against Clercius but this is not a 1 game issue so we need to see what the imports can do. Failing that find more imports on defence ( DT ) that can beef up that side of our roster. Starting 10 Canadians and losing is the worst situation.
Not trying to knock our Canadian talent but it isn't working in our favour to be starting 10.
You're trying to knock Canadian talent. Why shouldn't Clercius get a chance over some Import off the street?
Milt was commenting on Canadian receivers, saying basically, they are now, just as good as Americans.... He mentioned (I think this is accurate) that five of top ten receivers so far this season, are Canadian.
Worth finding ... he said there has been a big change over the last ten years from receivers being ratio fillers, to, now top rank.
Think he discussed the reasons.coaching being one.
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on June 27, 2024, 07:31:26 PMYou're trying to knock Canadian talent. Why shouldn't Clercius get a chance over some Import off the street?
It still comes down to supply and demand. We brought in at least a dozen import rookie receivers. There were probably that many or more we didn't bring in that attended mini camps etc.
To think that 1 Canadian we drafted this year is better than all of them defies the odds.
Let him prove me wrong. I'll be happy if he does and sad that our scouts didn't do better.
Noting that O. Wilson and then Wheatfall already started before Clercius. On Saturday I'm not sure who will be starting.
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on June 27, 2024, 07:31:26 PMYou're trying to knock Canadian talent. Why shouldn't Clercius get a chance over some Import off the street?
I'm a bit disappointed Clercius and MCI are not playing a bigger role in the offence as it would be nice to see them become starters, but I guess with the bad start this not the time to bring them along. Like most Natls. they probably won't get many chances to play in their first season.
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on June 27, 2024, 07:31:26 PMYou're trying to knock Canadian talent. Why shouldn't Clercius get a chance over some Import off the street?
To me it boils down to do we want to win now or do auditions for the next Lawler/Schoen.
If you want to improve your odds of winning right now, I say Clercius has looked better than all but one of the rookie IMP Rs.
If you want to win later in the season or 2025, do live game "tryouts" on the IMPs to see if you have the next superstar.
The best of the best Rs will always be IMPs. Demski & Philpot are probably the best NAT Rs right now and they still aren't Lawler/Schoen. Close, but no cigar. I like Milt's sentiment, but he's wrong. For sure there's more great NAT WRs now than ever, and their stats may be higher, but the elite IMPs are still better. (And further argument would be worthy of its own thread.)
So ya, do a "Chris Jones" and cycle through these guys as fast as we can to find the next diamond. To have a shot at the cup we really do need someone who can hold a candle to Schoen, because Schoen is gone. How many Rs did Jones cycle through before he found Mitchell?
Maybe if there's a game we have a hope in hades of winning (i.e. against OTT, HAM, EDM, maybe CGY), then you stop the tryouts and field your best. Maybe. In that case I start Clercius.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 27, 2024, 05:42:50 PMThe way I see it Zach has become an off script QB who relies heavily on receivers already knowing how to accommodate his penchant to scramble
That was Zach 2019-2022. I'd posit that's not Zach now. He basically never escapes the pocket unless it's a designed bootlet or roll out. Look at the last real chance to win play in the '23 GC. And the last TD chance in the last game.
He scrambles worse than BLM now. Either he needs to study pocket dynamics and learn to navigate better, or he needs to just stand there no matter what and be Ricky Ray. So many times if he had a never-scramble mindset and took the extra 1-2s to stand still he would have found a wide open guy. Again, like the last TD chance in the last game: JA27 was open on a cleared out flat to his left.
He also always steps up into the pocket when that's the worst possible choice and stepping back would buy him more time. BLM is far better at that aspect.
I can't remember the last time Zach had a big panic scramble that worked out. If it's not working, don't do it.
The rookie imports have had injuries during TC and then in games. I have no idea who was ranked where or might have started the season if not for that. Alston might have been 1st on the list or 5th. IDK. Wheatfall looked good in his 1st game and then gets injured. O. Wilson has not had many looks but he was the 4th or 5th target.
I wonder if we take a shot at the receiver in the supplemental draft tomorrow. He's a big target at 6'7" but I don't know much about him. Maybe he's the next Woli?
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 28, 2024, 01:10:12 PMThe rookie imports have had injuries during TC and then in games. I have no idea who was ranked where or might have started the season if not for that. Alston might have been 1st on the list or 5th. IDK. Wheatfall looked good in his 1st game and then gets injured. O. Wilson has not had many looks but he was the 4th or 5th target.
I wonder if we take a shot at the receiver in the supplemental draft tomorrow. He's a big target at 6'7" but I don't know much about him. Maybe he's the next Woli?
6'7" Rec that had an invite to Tampa's rookie camp. Looks good, but do we *need* another NAT rec?
https://3downnation.com/2024/06/27/cfl-to-host-supplemental-draft-for-giant-north-dakota-state-rec-zach-mathis/
Elks get first crack, I have no issue with using a 2nd rounder here... but I think someone will use a 1st before we get a shot at 8th overall. Only Tor picks after us, if he drops to us, only they can outbid us.
If Schoen is out for the season, we definitely need a stud WR, and maybe need to find that guy that won't come to the CFL for an ELC... and make it worth his while.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 28, 2024, 03:15:02 PM6'7" Rec that had an invite to Tampa's rookie camp. Looks good, but do we *need* another NAT rec?
https://3downnation.com/2024/06/27/cfl-to-host-supplemental-draft-for-giant-north-dakota-state-rec-zach-mathis/
Elks get first crack, I have no issue with using a 2nd rounder here... but I think someone will use a 1st before we get a shot at 8th overall. Only Tor picks after us, if he drops to us, only they can outbid us.
If Schoen is out for the season, we definitely need a stud WR, and maybe need to find that guy that won't come to the CFL for an ELC... and make it worth his while.
It depends on who might be on the potential free agent list. We'll know what it will cost us in giving up a draft choice so that's somewhat of an advantage.
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 28, 2024, 04:28:39 PMIt depends on who might be on the potential free agent list. We'll know what it will cost us in giving up a draft choice so that's somewhat of an advantage.
It all depends on what our scouts think of him but we're very likely going to win the "most Canadian starters" award again this year so we can probably pencil in an extra second rounder to work with. That said we're currently looking like we're going to have better than usual draft picks this off-season so it's hard to part with anything in the first couple rounds, I would think.
Quote from: theaardvark on June 28, 2024, 03:15:02 PM6'7" Rec that had an invite to Tampa's rookie camp. Looks good, but do we *need* another NAT rec?
https://3downnation.com/2024/06/27/cfl-to-host-supplemental-draft-for-giant-north-dakota-state-rec-zach-mathis/
Elks get first crack, I have no issue with using a 2nd rounder here... but I think someone will use a 1st before we get a shot at 8th overall. Only Tor picks after us, if he drops to us, only they can outbid us.
If Schoen is out for the season, we definitely need a stud WR, and maybe need to find that guy that won't come to the CFL for an ELC... and make it worth his while.
I would do a 2nd no doubt. Not sure what the next draft class looks like and we might have a pretty early 1st...
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 28, 2024, 01:10:12 PMThe rookie imports have had injuries during TC and then in games. I have no idea who was ranked where or might have started the season if not for that. Alston might have been 1st on the list or 5th. IDK. Wheatfall looked good in his 1st game and then gets injured. O. Wilson has not had many looks but he was the 4th or 5th target.
I wonder if we take a shot at the receiver in the supplemental draft tomorrow. He's a big target at 6'7" but I don't know much about him. Maybe he's the next Woli?
Does he worth 1st rounder? I wish the Bombers could get him but I don't think it will happen. I wouldn't think Walters will offer a first, probably the highest he will offer is a 3rd. And all what it takes for next 7 teams is to match it.
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 28, 2024, 05:38:49 PMDoes he worth 1st rounder? I wish the Bombers could get him but I don't think it will happen. I wouldn't think Walters will offer a first, probably the highest he will offer is a 3rd. And all what it takes for next 7 teams is to match it.
It will be the Bombers being able to decide whether to beat the offers of other teams. We're 2nd from last in the draft order.
How high a choice this player might be I don't know. We got Woli in 2017 with a 3rd round pick. It will be interesting to see which teams show interest and how high a team bids. I don't know anything about this receiver or what the 2025 draft class will look like.
If our season tanks, our picks could be higher than the past few seasons. In that sense I'd rather not give up a 1st or 2nd round but maybe he's worth it.
The draft is always a crap shoot, given where we are with receiver depth, I'd go after this guy
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 28, 2024, 07:46:44 PMIf our season tanks, our picks could be higher than the past few seasons. In that sense I'd rather not give up a 1st or 2nd round but maybe he's worth it.
Uh, we can get
worse?? :D ;D ;) ;) ;) We're already dead last! :o :o :o
(Where's that ledge?)
Start auditioning UFL cuts as their season is over since mid-June. Get the old George Brancatto air lift going like back in the early to mid 1980's with the OLD OTTAWA ROUGH RIDERS!! Season did not begin for Ottawa until NFL cuts rolled in! :D Almost pulled the biggest GC upset in history in 1981 with a 5-11 team vs a 14-1-1 Edmonton team. Had a 20-1 halftime lead and blew it on a last second FG to Edmonton. TALK ABOUT A CHOKE JOB! :( Would have been sweet to see the old evil empire go down in that game! :D
Still think Tony Gabriel ripped off with a double pass interference call late in that GC game to stall an Ottawa drive. Might have had a FG As he had a long catch tossed out because of penalty. Is such a penalty even possible? 🤔 Same as a late hit call on John Helton in 1982 western final in Edmonton with Bombers visiting. To this day STILL think Bombers ripped off in that game. No replay challenges in those daze and Edmonton sort of had things rigged with biggest payroll in league (way before salary cap era) + seemed like they had the officials in their pocket too many times. Norm Kimball the Edmonton GM was a swindler and con artist!! :D SO LOVED it when the Bombers royally blew them out in 1983 and 1984 playoffs. Also won in 1985 in another semi-final against Edmonton at home, but that one was much closer. Only a 7 point win! Think I held a grudge against the old Esks until their playoff streak ended 10 years ago or so. All downhill for Edmunchuck since then it seems.
Wilson has to step up today. He hasn't done much yet, but he should be way more comfortable than Johnson.
I always liked Murphy, let's hope he can find a way to make a couple plays.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on June 29, 2024, 08:41:51 AMStart auditioning UFL cuts as their season is over since mid-June. Get the old George Brancatto air lift going like back in the early to mid 1980's with the OLD OTTAWA ROUGH RIDERS!! Season did not begin for Ottawa until NFL cuts rolled in! :D Almost pulled the biggest GC upset in history in 1981 with a 5-11 team vs a 14-1-1 Edmonton team. Had a 20-1 halftime lead and blew it on a last second FG to Edmonton. TALK ABOUT A CHOKE JOB! :( Would have been sweet to see the old evil empire go down in that game! :D
Still think Tony Gabriel ripped off with a double pass interference call late in that GC game to stall an Ottawa drive. Might have had a FG As he had a long catch tossed out because of penalty. Is such a penalty even possible? 🤔 Same as a late hit call on John Helton in 1982 western final in Edmonton with Bombers visiting. To this day STILL think Bombers ripped off in that game. No replay challenges in those daze and Edmonton sort of had things rigged with biggest payroll in league (way before salary cap era) + seemed like they had the officials in their pocket too many times. Norm Kimball the Edmonton GM was a swindler and con artist!! :D SO LOVED it when the Bombers royally blew them out in 1983 and 1984 playoffs. Also won in 1985 in another semi-final against Edmonton at home, but that one was much closer. Only a 7 point win! Think I held a grudge against the old Esks until their playoff streak ended 10 years ago or so. All downhill for Edmunchuck since then it seems.
Players in the UFL are still under contract and there is no agreement between the 2 leagues. Now we could argue that the CFL should negotiate an agreement but until then, we can't audition any UFL players.
Early reports were that the UFL wanted to expand with addition of 4 more teams in 2025. That may no longer be in their plans but if it is then they won't be releasing a bunch of players.
OTOH, there are many players not drafted by the NFL that haven't found a team to showcase their talents.
I was not aware their players were still under contract. Guess that all changed with the merger as how would bethell Thompson be with the elks otherwise?
Quote from: ichabod_crane on June 29, 2024, 04:39:24 PMI was not aware their players were still under contract. Guess that all changed with the merger as how would bethell Thompson be with the elks otherwise?
I'm not entirely certain about him. The UFL had a draft of the players of 8 defunct teams. In theory that meant about 300 players that had spots in one of the pre merger teams became available.
All that said, new player become available at the end of each season. Players not drafted in the NFL directly as UDFA's. Decisions are made to release players that were on current rosters and available to the CFL if they want to look at them.
Bombers signed a bunch of ex XFL or USFL players for TC as did all CFL teams. A few are still on CFl rosters.
Bauming was all cranked up on his Gameday podcast yesterday about using receivers in house and not seeking outside help, specifically mentioned Agudosi and Whitehead and thought there was significant reasons they were not currently on a roster. I suspect he lurks here and might actually be Aards. ;D
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 29, 2024, 07:04:39 PMBauming was all cranked up on his Gameday podcast yesterday about using receivers in house and not seeking outside help, specifically mentioned Agudosi and Whitehead and thought there was significant reasons they were not currently on a roster. I suspect he lurks here and might actually be Aards. ;D
I can't stand Bauming.
Both TSN and the Sun are reporting that Walters was on the horn with Lucky Whitehead following the game.
Quote from: VictorRomano on June 30, 2024, 05:13:46 AMBoth TSN and the Sun are reporting that Walters was on the horn with Lucky Whitehead following the game.
Following the CGY game? Or the last-week game? Guess he was waiting until he saw how completed screwed we were, eh?
Lucky isn't just a good move talent-wise, it's also a good move fan-wise. He'll get huge fan support @PAS. I expect a huge applause when he first takes the field. Everyone loves Lucky. We'll probably still lose, but at least we can cheer for something. And at least moves are being made, finally.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 30, 2024, 05:16:52 AMFollowing the CGY game?
Yes. Farhan Lalji from TSN tweeted it at midnight yesterday.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 29, 2024, 07:04:39 PMBauming was all cranked up on his Gameday podcast yesterday about using receivers in house and not seeking outside help, specifically mentioned Agudosi and Whitehead and thought there was significant reasons they were not currently on a roster. I suspect he lurks here and might actually be Aards. ;D
Agudosi is still hanging around? Thought he washed out long ago. Not sure worth the effort unless he's in the city already for a quick look see.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on July 01, 2024, 01:58:21 AMAgudosi is still hanging around? Thought he washed out long ago. Not sure worth the effort unless he's in the city already for a quick look see.
Pretty sure Agudosi didn't get re-signed by TOR? He may not be any better than the TC guys here. Was never impressed with him. Low effort sort of guy, like C.Matthews in his last stint here.
Plus he's super tall and those guys (as WRs) seem to get injured all the time. Still, I wouldn't say no to trying him out again. We have nothing to lose, and he'd come cheap and knows the system. But I'd probably take almost any other "vet" couch-sitter over him first.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 29, 2024, 07:04:39 PMBauming was all cranked up on his Gameday podcast yesterday about using receivers in house and not seeking outside help, specifically mentioned Agudosi and Whitehead and thought there was significant reasons they were not currently on a roster. I suspect he lurks here and might actually be Aards. ;D
No. I am not Bauming.
Quote from: theaardvark on July 01, 2024, 02:31:27 AMNo. I am not Bauming.
Only Bauming would say that! ;) ;) ;) ;)
Pet food by day,
Pundit by night? Both start with P... I think we're on to something.