Our talent has been taken by other teams, injuries are piling up, not like past years. The salary cap has caught up to us but management has given money to who they think deserves it. Even after all this we must be thankful that our blue bombers made it to the Grey Cup four years in a row, in a salary cap era! If it were not for a couple of plays we could of won four in a row.
Even the Edmonton dynasty from 78-82 who had great teams, didn't have a salary cap to adhere too. They could sign whoever they wanted for the money they wanted. I know all teams could as well, but for me the bombers run of four years, in a salary cap rule seems so much more meaningful!
I know our team will give it there all, every game!
Down to 7 on the Power Rankings. A loss Friday and we will likely be 9 next week.
6-12 seems optimistic now. Every team is coming for us , payback after beating them for the last 4 seasons. 3-15 is not out of the question.
2025 Grey Cup. Mirror image of 2015, unthinkable 2 years ago. Wonder what the brass is thinking right about now? This is not a quick fix. The timing could not be worse
Quote from: Austin85 on June 18, 2024, 03:17:38 AMI know our team will give it there all, every game!
Good post.
And I want to see the PAS crowd give it their all in this game! They really started losing the decibels come the 4th Q in week 1. We 100% owe it to our team to bring the max noise all game long. Let's not become Just Another Stadium where all you hear is golf clappers. I don't give a hoot how much we win or lose, we keep the heat on when we're on D.
Every game I scream and ring and clap and stomp until my voice is 100% gone by 0:00. Like actual vocal chord damage. I expect the same of every "noise" fan. The quiet ones can sit and poopoo, that's ok, not everyone is rowdy. But the noise guys need to keep bringing the noise -- all the time!
And I don't want to hear another boo again. Booing Castillo didn't/doesn't help anything. Like it or not 99% of the same guys will be back on the field next week and they need to know We Got Their Backs (TM) even if they're not superstars or they have a garbage night. I'll never boo the Blue & Gold... never. Didn't for Brohm & Hurl, won't do it now.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 18, 2024, 04:28:46 AMGood post.
And I want to see the PAS crowd give it their all in this game! They really started losing the decibels come the 4th Q in week 1. We 100% owe it to our team to bring the max noise all game long. Let's not become Just Another Stadium where all you hear is golf clappers. I don't give a hoot how much we win or lose, we keep the heat on when we're on D.
Every game I scream and ring and clap and stomp until my voice is 100% gone by 0:00. Like actual vocal chord damage. I expect the same of every "noise" fan. The quiet ones can sit and poopoo, that's ok, not everyone is rowdy. But the noise guys need to keep bringing the noise -- all the time!
And I don't want to hear another boo again. Booing Castillo didn't/doesn't help anything. Like it or not 99% of the same guys will be back on the field next week and they need to know We Got Their Backs (TM) even if they're not superstars or they have a garbage night. I'll never boo the Blue & Gold... never. Didn't for Brohm & Hurl, won't do it now.
A lot of the crowd is very young now, the kids will be booing loud and proud, especially after a few doubles. Make no mistake about that.
The saving grace is they will be gone by the half and off to the bar, the downside is $$$$$ walking out the door.
This is a must win for so many reasons.
Quote from: Road Griller on June 18, 2024, 04:40:47 AMA lot of the crowd is very young now, the kids will be booing loud and proud, especially after a few doubles. Make no mistake about that.
Then it's up to us oldsters to teach them how to do it and what it means to be a Bomber fan. I'm going my part turning my kids into noise machines! They have learned how important it is. Everyone has to show the way.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 18, 2024, 05:16:43 AMThen it's up to us oldsters to teach them how to do it and what it means to be a Bomber fan. I'm going my part turning my kids into noise machines! They have learned how important it is. Everyone has to show the way.
For sure, the problem is they are mostly at the Hut then scattered around the stadium in groups. No way to stop them, they don't come with parents anymore.
Interesting times, many of the old timers said they are going to stick out this run then pack it up, age, constant stadium road construction ( ten years and counting) and cost being the main factors. Just couldn't leave during some of the best football they have ever seen live.
The youngsters have no heavy investment in the team and will move on to the next new shiny thing once the winning ends.
So much on the line, I can't believe they let this happen. Ramping up seasons sales for the '25 cup? More likely near record cancellations if this continues.
Austin85 makes one or two downer threads per year after a loss or two, and that's about it.
Quote from: blue_or_die on June 18, 2024, 08:55:21 PMAustin85 makes one or two downer threads per year after a loss or two, and that's about it.
If there was a love button on here I would have clicked it 100x for this post.
Yup was just thinking the same but he has friends now to share his misery. I like this let them get it all out together in one safe place lol.
Some forum members have reverted back to the negativity that was popular here pre dynasty. Classic. Things worked out pretty well back then and I think it will again.
I make downer posts don't forget everyone. I just believe that you cannot go on forever thinking we can be invincible. We have done way better than all the teams in the CFL the past four years with the exception of BC who did pretty well too. Look at Toronto they did ok but we're gutted this year, but they have two decent quarterbacks still. I don't care I'm a bomber fan no matter if they go 0-18. That's the difference between me and some other band jumpers on this board.
Quote from: Austin85 on June 19, 2024, 04:14:22 AMI make downer posts don't forget everyone. I just believe that you cannot go on forever thinking we can be invincible. We have done way better than all the teams in the CFL the past four years with the exception of BC who did pretty well too. Look at Toronto they did ok but we're gutted this year, but they have two decent quarterbacks still. I don't care I'm a bomber fan no matter if they go 0-18. That's the difference between me and some other band jumpers on this board.
Who on here has ever claimed the Bombers are invincible?
Quote from: Road Griller on June 18, 2024, 03:29:59 AMDown to 7 on the Power Rankings. A loss Friday and we will likely be 9 next week.
6-12 seems optimistic now. Every team is coming for us , payback after beating them for the last 4 seasons. 3-15 is not out of the question.
2025 Grey Cup. Mirror image of 2015, unthinkable 2 years ago. Wonder what the brass is thinking right about now? This is not a quick fix. The timing could not be worse
Bring back Justin Goltz!
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on June 19, 2024, 02:24:50 PMBring back Justin Goltz!
I'm in!!!! NR, Streveler, Goltz. Just give us the Cup!!!!
Quote from: The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB on June 19, 2024, 02:24:50 PMBring back Justin Goltz!
Brohm. Brohm is the best example from 2015 when you want to make a point requiring the world's worst QB. He had a 100% completion record: if the turf counted as a receiver. He was great at aiming for that green stuff.
Long may we delay the days of our team looking like that again! I'm crying just thinking about it. :'( :'( :'( :'( :o
Troy Copp
Sammy Garza
T.J Rubley
Remembering the pain of the past can make then present more tolerable lol
This is different. We have a better option at QB. Just need to play him.
Just like Nichols backing up Willy. The QB stable isn't lean. We have someone and Zach would be a great #2.
Quote from: Road Griller on June 20, 2024, 01:59:09 AMJust like Nichols backing up Willy. The QB stable isn't lean. We have someone and Zach would be a great #2.
I agree with you on a ton of things, but I think you're off the deep end thinking benching Zach would be a good idea.
Just answer me one question: why was Zach voted #1 best player in the CFL just a few months ago? Is everyone wrong?
Another question: TSN panel said the other night that Cody wasn't anywhere near being the best QB, and he barely made the top 50 list IIRC. If you could trade Zach for Cody tomorrow, and reap the $200k SMS savings, would you do it? Remember, Cody just won the GC
and beat us in our own barn.
I can predict what 99% of this forum (including myself) will say. If you're going to take the opposite side, you have to justify it.
I think the way to make all parties happy is to up the Strev factor a little more. Make it more like the last 4 games of 2019. Would you be happy (enough) with that? And hey, if Strev blows it out of the park doing that, then we can re-examine benching Zach.
No way no how does MOS bench Collaros. It isn't going to happen, that's not his MO, he's loyal to a fault to his veteran players and he has too much respect for Collaros. He needs to play his way out of this funk and MOS will let him do just that. MOS knows he's got to get the old zach back and benching him isn't going to do that, if anything it would make the situation worse, but no worries it's never going to happen
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 20, 2024, 02:16:43 AMI agree with you on a ton of things, but I think you're off the deep end thinking benching Zach would be a good idea.
Just answer me one question: why was Zach voted #1 best player in the CFL just a few months ago? Is everyone wrong?
Another question: TSN panel said the other night that Cody wasn't anywhere near being the best QB, and he barely made the top 50 list IIRC. If you could trade Zach for Cody tomorrow, and reap the $200k SMS savings, would you do it? Remember, Cody just won the GC and beat us in our own barn.
I can predict what 99% of this forum (including myself) will say. If you're going to take the opposite side, you have to justify it.
I think the way to make all parties happy is to up the Strev factor a little more. Make it more like the last 4 games of 2019. Would you be happy (enough) with that? And hey, if Strev blows it out of the park doing that, then we can re-examine benching Zach.
Thank you for the kind words. My reasoning is the last 4 starts Zach has not thrown a TD. 4 picks and two of those end zone picks, one more red zone iirc.
Not too concerned on what the talking heads have to say on TSN. So much seems scripted like the nonsense they come up with trying to be funny. Outside of LaPo it's a bunch of Poo-Poo IMO.
There were signs last year of long stretches of nothing from the Passing game. Brady was on fire so it covered a lot of it up.
We were getting torched by the Elks, Zach leaves the game then Brown comes in. Same everything but all of a sudden it works. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
And no, I don't want Cody either. Or MBT.
The fact that they have not used Streveler in the 2019 manner at minimum makes me question if Buck even has a clue on how to. What is he saving it for? We need points now.
That said I want to see Streveler run a normal first team offence like Dru Brown did. He did very well. His mobility helped and we know Stevy has that.
Let's see his new arm, why not? Some sideline time may do Zach well, the game may slow down for him again.
Quote from: Road Griller on June 20, 2024, 03:59:27 AMThank you for the kind words. My reasoning is the last 4 starts Zach has not thrown a TD. 4 picks and two of those end zone picks, one more red zone iirc.
Not too concerned on what the talking heads have to say on TSN.
The TSN Top-50 list is calculated via:
"Approximately
40 ballots were distributed to voters across the country, including 3DownNation contributors John Hodge, JC Abbott, Ben Grant, and Ryan Ballantine. Each ballot could include only 40 players with minimum requirements for each position."
In past years the voting included top coaches, media guys, ex-players, etc. The above is pretty vague for 2024, and I can't find better info after trying a fair bit.
My point is Zach was voted #1 (3 years running!) by more than just poo-poo TSN panelists. At the very least it would include guys like our CJOB DT, and maybe Doug Brown.
Even if it's just media pundits, it does mean something if Zach was #1 overall. Not everyone who watches/studies the CFL can be wrong?
Yes, Zach has had 4 "bad" games. But playoffs are always funny things, where the normal game plan doesn't always apply. You get it done however you can. I'm way more concerned about his week 1 & 2 production than whatever happened last year.
I think the best you'll get in terms of your desires is maybe X % more Strevie in each game. Although, like you said, maybe Buck really doesn't have a clue? His playbook looked great right when he took over, and he had some novel ideas and schemes; but I've seen very little high-brain stuff from him for about 10 games now. I count 2 new plays that have really excited me in that timeframe: one late last season and one in week 1. The GC was an exposition in low-brain uselessness. Buck definitely needs to kick it up a notch. To waste so many on-field weapons is shameful.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 20, 2024, 05:31:45 AMThe TSN Top-50 list is calculated via:
"Approximately 40 ballots were distributed to voters across the country, including 3DownNation contributors John Hodge, JC Abbott, Ben Grant, and Ryan Ballantine. Each ballot could include only 40 players with minimum requirements for each position."
In past years the voting included top coaches, media guys, ex-players, etc. The above is pretty vague for 2024, and I can't find better info after trying a fair bit.
My point is Zach was voted #1 (3 years running!) by more than just poo-poo TSN panelists. At the very least it would include guys like our CJOB DT, and maybe Doug Brown.
Even if it's just media pundits, it does mean something if Zach was #1 overall. Not everyone who watches/studies the CFL can be wrong?
Yes, Zach has had 4 "bad" games. But playoffs are always funny things, where the normal game plan doesn't always apply. You get it done however you can. I'm way more concerned about his week 1 & 2 production than whatever happened last year.
I think the best you'll get in terms of your desires is maybe X % more Strevie in each game. Although, like you said, maybe Buck really doesn't have a clue? His playbook looked great right when he took over, and he had some novel ideas and schemes; but I've seen very little high-brain stuff from him for about 10 games now. I count 2 new plays that have really excited me in that timeframe: one late last season and one in week 1. The GC was an exposition in low-brain uselessness. Buck definitely needs to kick it up a notch. To waste so many on-field weapons is shameful.
Again, it's the talking heads. There was more than one head scratcher on the list. DT chose Kelly over BO last season for most outstanding player. I haven't paid much attention to him since.
Zach was the safe choice but he wasn't even the best QB last season. Tim White #7, Willie #9?
They would not be my #7 and #9 pick overall. TSN does not do a great job when it comes to the CFL but where would we be without them? Doesn't mean I have to take anything they do seriously.
Now, if Friday is 5 bad starts, the equivalent of a quarter season is that the time?
If a goalie has 20 bad starts in a row in hockey do they make a change? Edmonton would not be in the finals if they did not sit Skinner. Then they went back to him and he has been better.
Coaches need to make the hard decisions sometimes.
As far as Buck, I would hire LaPo as an offensive consultant and get him back in the building. Get back focused into an all around game with short plays mixed in, way too much downfield stuff that is taking way to long to develop. Teams are waiting back and sitting on it.
Is that the bulk of Zach's troubles? Hopefully, it would be an easier fix.
What would change that immediately IMO? Streveler. He will always have the easier downfield throw because the DB's have to come up to play contain. The reward for that? Getting taken to Boomtown by QB getting to the next level. Once Streveler lays out that said DB you go right after him the next play while he is still adjusting his equipment back into place.
Could work? We know what isn't.
Collaros was great LAST YEAR. It doesn't make him great this year.
Quote from: TBURGESS on June 20, 2024, 02:20:02 PMCollaros was great LAST YEAR. It doesn't make him great this year.
True, but this season has just begun, can't read too much into anything yet, by Labour Day we'll have a realistic view of Zach's performance and the playoff prospects of this team.
Quote from: Road Griller on June 20, 2024, 01:02:23 PMAs far as Buck, I would hire LaPo as an offensive consultant
I think a consultant would be great but we need new blood in here. Nothing against LaPo but we need an outsider that can be a contrarian and not worry about friendships or stepping on toes. The Bombers can decide to accept that or not. The odds of it ever happening appear less than zero though. MOS wants the guys he knows and lets them do their job, sink or swim.
Quote from: Waffler on June 20, 2024, 03:15:10 PMI think a consultant would be great but we need new blood in here. Nothing against LaPo but we need an outsider that can be a contrarian and not worry about friendships or stepping on toes. The Bombers can decide to accept that or not. The odds of it ever happening appear less than zero though. MOS wants the guys he knows and lets them do their job, sink or swim.
Remember Marcel Bellefeuille? How the hell did they ever end up with him....
Quote from: Waffler on June 20, 2024, 03:15:10 PMI think a consultant would be great but we need new blood in here. Nothing against LaPo but we need an outsider that can be a contrarian and not worry about friendships or stepping on toes. The Bombers can decide to accept that or not. The odds of it ever happening appear less than zero though. MOS wants the guys he knows and lets them do their job, sink or swim.
A lot of the system is his, he knows many of the players still. He knows football,
I am not a fan of his conservative approach at times but it seems like that is exactly what this team needs. His motto,' The ball IS the Cup'.Need to protect it at all costs. Poor turnovers at critical times cost us the last two.
Quote from: Road Griller on June 20, 2024, 05:20:06 PMHis motto,' The ball IS the Cup'.Need to protect it at all costs. Poor turnovers at critical times cost us the last two.
That is one of the best CFL quotes of all time. Talk about putting the focus where it needs to be. Nothing else works if you haven't secured the ball and work to keep it secure. See all the fumbles and INTs thru week 2... Just like in the GC, if we don't do those turnovers, we almost certainly win. That's the difference right there.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 20, 2024, 04:16:17 PMRemember Marcel Bellefeuille? How the hell did they ever end up with him....
Oh stop it please, years of therapy are going to be lost at the mere mention of that bozo's name. I haven't been able to put on a tie ever since Justin doltz's touchdown dance. Oh the horror is coming back, please stop it!!
Quote from: dd on June 21, 2024, 03:33:21 AMOh stop it please, years of therapy are going to be lost at the mere mention of that bozo's name. I haven't been able to put on a tie ever since Justin doltz's touchdown dance. Oh the horror is coming back, please stop it!!
He didn't dance, he adjusted his tie.....
I had a feeling we would not beat the Als in our home opener and they didn't play with fire. Losing Jarmarcus and Sheed really hurt us in the fire department. Then they went to play against Dru and the Red Blacks and still....no fire....no urgency. Other teams love to beat us after we've dominated the league for the past 3 seasons. In 2019 we weren't dominant....we signed Zach and went on a roll and like the Als who beat us in the last GC, we beat the highly touted TiCats and the next 3 seasons we WERE dominating. We won't be dominating this year as other teams have focus on getting better whereas as MOS often says "we like our guys". That's complacency right there and we've lost that competitiveness and fire we had in previous seasons.
Brady will be in tough this year because his O-line won't be able to open holes you could drive a truck through....he will struggle to make a thousand yards. It's all lost or won in the trenches and we are no where close to being there. Also losing JJ was a huge loss even if he did spend too much time in the ice tub.
Will I still remain a loyal Bomber fan for my upcoming 63rd consecutive season?? Of course and I will call out the team when they are under performing as they did in the first two games. Bomber management needs to address the injury situation as it's obvious the "next man up" mantra isn't working and our depth is thin.
That being said, we still have enough components on offence to win games IF everyone is healthy. That's a mighty big IF yet it's still within the realm of possibility.
I will continue to listen to Bomber games on OB radio until i either dead or deaf.....whichever comes first....lol!
Blue and Gold forever homies!!
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on June 21, 2024, 05:13:50 AMIn 2019 we weren't dominant....we signed Zach and went on a roll and like the Als who beat us in the last GC, we beat the highly touted TiCats and the next 3 seasons we WERE dominating.
But we were! As Matt Nichols #1 biggest fan, I want to point out we were winning nearly every game, and putting up 35+ a lot, with tons of deep balls, before Matty got Lemonated to ruin his career.
It was only that stretch with Strevie starting that had us a .500 team. Hence the Zach airlift.
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on June 21, 2024, 05:13:50 AMBrady will be in tough this year because his O-line won't be able to open holes you could drive a truck through....he will struggle to make a thousand yards. It's all lost or won in the trenches and we are no where close to being there.
I actually have high hopes for Wallace. He's a beast They are putting him in on many jumbos, clearly see something in him, and I think he'll pick up his game pretty quickly. He could pave the way (haha, pun) for a great run game.
Dobson also has the tools to really help in the run game, as that's basically all he did for us in 2023 as the 6th OL.
In fact, even though our OL was pretty garbage with the run so far, they were much worse in pass-pro. Every stupid stunt was getting through, and no one could read MTL's trick DL show. Solving those will actually be harder than run-block road-grading, IMHO. I think we get the run game going sooner than we solve all our pass-pro woes. The former is more a physicality/positioning issue, the latter is more a cerebral thing. I don't think we're doing well on any cerebral thing at the moment...
And if any OL is consistently letting us down, bench him for a 3rd IMP for a few games!
Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on June 21, 2024, 05:13:50 AMThat being said, we still have enough components on offence to win games IF everyone is healthy. That's a mighty big IF yet it's still within the realm of possibility.
We totally are good enough to win games if we tweak the 1-2 weakest spots. However, I think it'll take more than just getting the IR guys back... Even if we're full strength / week 1 starters tomorrow, if we face MTL in the GC tomorrow, we lose that game. Need all the desired starters, plus 1-2 upgrades!
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 21, 2024, 05:40:41 AMBut we were! As Matt Nichols #1 biggest fan, I want to point out we were winning nearly every game, and putting up 35+ a lot, with tons of deep balls, before Matty got Lemonated to ruin his career.
It was only that stretch with Strevie starting that had us a .500 team. Hence the Zach airlift.
I actually have high hopes for Wallace. He's a beast They are putting him in on many jumbos, clearly see something in him, and I think he'll pick up his game pretty quickly. He could pave the way (haha, pun) for a great run game.
Dobson also has the tools to really help in the run game, as that's basically all he did for us in 2023 as the 6th OL.
In fact, even though our OL was pretty garbage with the run so far, they were much worse in pass-pro. Every stupid stunt was getting through, and no one could read MTL's trick DL show. Solving those will actually be harder than run-block road-grading, IMHO. I think we get the run game going sooner than we solve all our pass-pro woes. The former is more a physicality/positioning issue, the latter is more a cerebral thing. I don't think we're doing well on any cerebral thing at the moment...
And if any OL is consistently letting us down, bench him for a 3rd IMP for a few games!
We totally are good enough to win games if we tweak the 1-2 weakest spots. However, I think it'll take more than just getting the IR guys back... Even if we're full strength / week 1 starters tomorrow, if we face MTL in the GC tomorrow, we lose that game. Need all the desired starters, plus 1-2 upgrades!
Need to keep in mind, IMHO, the focus over the past couple of years is to retain players like Zach, Brady, Dalton, Evan, Stanley, Kenny, etc. That is where money was spent. These players have a successful history with the team and the team deemed it was important to keep them here. Hypothetically, would you have been willing to let Schoen and Oliviera go to get "1-2 upgrades" elsewhere and at the same time hopefully attempt to replace both who are considered top players in the league?
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 21, 2024, 06:20:47 AMNeed to keep in mind, IMHO, the focus over the past couple of years is to retain players like Zach, Brady, Dalton, Evan, Stanley, Kenny, etc. That is where money was spent. These players have a successful history with the team and the team deemed it was important to keep them here. Hypothetically, would you have been willing to let Schoen and Oliviera go to get "1-2 upgrades" elsewhere and at the same time hopefully attempt to replace both who are considered top players in the league?
Great point and great question! I haven't yet spelled out my overall vision, or integrated all of my solutions. I have thrown ideas out a bit haphazardly just to get people thinking.
I have been on board with the retention focus, just like many/most of us. I'm as guilty of that as anyone. You get attached to players.
If I'm on the spot, I'd say I'd have let Brady walk if he didn't take KW's offer. The fact WM overrode KW is a big red flag to me that we overspent. KW is very generous. That would let us go cheaper with an IMP RB, as our 8-10 NAT ratio allows. Almost every RB changed teams in FA: we could have been in on any of them. Not only does this move allow us to save the $30k or whatever we gave Brady over KW's offer, but also saves us another $50k because IMP RBs are that much cheaper. $80k is the difference maker to sign at least 2 vets over TC fodder... or keep that door open if/when the rookies prove weak.
Brady was an emotional retention, not a smart one. It was more for game-day homer feelz, "a good story", and merch sales. There was a decent chance he'd have signed here for KW's offer anyhow. No one has that kind of SMS. Don't get me wrong, I'm just as emotionally happy at the Brady re-sign too. But the GM has to not be emotional.
Now that we're in-season, I'd ask the superstars to talk among themselves: do you want to give up a touch of salary so we can sign winners, or keep rolling with guys who didn't even make the PR... Can't hurt to ask. Lay out the ideas and FA player names: show them the plan.
The used-to-winning vet WPG players are going to be extremely miserable all season if we lose a ton. It won't be fun anymore. And they hold the key. If it was me I'd sure look at a KW get-better-quick plan...
I'd also focus on O first. Find the weakest piece and put a vet there, whether LG, C or RT, or 5th WR (and now 4th WR). Decide who is causing the most damage and fill the hole with a vet (some easier than others to pull off, of course). Once O is scoring bigly again, then you slot in what you can at DL and DB. Then when the IR guys come back not only are we back to week 1 "full strength", we're better!
And ya, all of this can be done for like $80-$120k SMS. We really are "that close" -- we're not as sad as our standing/ranking shows. If the Brady deal made it so that's $M$ still out of range, then WM/KW made their bed and we all get to lie in it. Then we kneel down and pray the rookies are all-stars in disguise, because that's what it's going to take to win.
I allow myself to get caught in the narrative that RBs aren't worth the money, and the team is more important than individual players all the time, that said, I would have been a wreak if we let either Brady or Dalton walk. And then if we started this season 0-2 without them? I'd have my pitch fork in hand already.
Want to know hear some splits about the Bombers?
In 2022, when Brady rushed for 4 yard or less per carry, we averaged 24 points a game. When he rushed for over 4 yards per carry, we scored 35 points per game.
In 2023, he only rushed for less than 4 yards per carry in one game. That was the infamous collapse against Ottawa.
Now, in 2024, without a health Brady in either game, we're averaging 15 points and a $h!t sandwich.
I 100% do not regret his contract and think this team is a lot different with him doing his thing on the field. I also believe we're "that close", but it has nothing to do with signing bums on the couch who no other team wants to sign either.
This team will not make the playoffs!
Quote from: Jesse on June 21, 2024, 11:03:18 AMI allow myself to get caught in the narrative that RBs aren't worth the money, and the team is more important than individual players all the time, that said, I would have been a wreak if we let either Brady or Dalton walk. And then if we started this season 0-2 without them? I'd have my pitch fork in hand already.
Want to know hear some splits about the Bombers?
In 2022, when Brady rushed for 4 yard or less per carry, we averaged 24 points a game. When he rushed for over 4 yards per carry, we scored 35 points per game.
In 2023, he only rushed for less than 4 yards per carry in one game. That was the infamous collapse against Ottawa.
Now, in 2024, without a health Brady in either game, we're averaging 15 points and a $h!t sandwich.
I 100% do not regret his contract and think this team is a lot different with him doing his thing on the field. I also believe we're "that close", but it has nothing to do with signing bums on the couch who no other team wants to sign either.
Just building off of this. In the beginning of yesterday's game when Johnny was in, we certainly had another slow start on offence. But later in the game with Brady in, we started moving the ball and putting together some drives. I feel good with how we're progressing.
We missed you, I guess you had to chime in with some gloom! Lol
We will be around 500 and hopefully sneak in. Too early to know what we are yet.
I see the lack of success without Brady more as a confirmation that Augustine is a backup. He's had lots of chances. They've brought in import running backs the past few years that I thought looked pretty good but they don't survive the cuts. Surely one or more of those is better than Augustine. When was the last import we saw in a game here?
I would start on our D first!! We need a rush end and some backend help out there, namely at safety. Alexander was in chase mode all night long which is not a good look. He used to be a our fast safety, well, he ain't fast no more. Ditto with Biggie. We made a huge mistake last year not going after Sankey. Sooner or later you have to move on from your high priced vets....its getting to be that time for at least 2 of them out there!
Please, please, please, I pray, in no way, shape, or form bring back Lapo. Buck Pierce is more than capable as an offensive coordinator and isn't as dull and predictable as Lapo has shown to be. I absolutely couldn't stand Lapo's schemes and Buck, having been a good, exciting QB, has a flair for the game that Lapo will never have. Buck is still learning and developing as an OC. I think he's going to be one of the best.
Quote from: Waffler on June 22, 2024, 10:05:08 PMI see the lack of success without Brady more as a confirmation that Augustine is a backup. He's had lots of chances. They've brought in import running backs the past few years that I thought looked pretty good but they don't survive the cuts. Surely one or more of those is better than Augustine. When was the last import we saw in a game here?
Wasn't there a guy named Cotton here before AH? I really have blocked out our RB performance pre-AH33. The running game before AH is really not worth my brain cells. I'm pretty sure we were "trying out" RBs for many seasons there.
Augustine is just a backup. 100%. But he's now the best NAT RB backup in the league, IMHO. That's why I pointed out how shameful it was Johnny had better stats than Brady through week 2. Obviously some big runs by Brady in week 3 solved that problem.
Quote from: J5V on June 23, 2024, 12:51:10 AMPlease, please, please, I pray, in no way, shape, or form bring back Lapo. Buck Pierce is more than capable as an offensive coordinator and isn't as dull and predictable as Lapo has shown to be.
Ya, I'm fine with Buck, but only when he's working working working (as per his own words). I think he got really lackadaisical in both recent GCs as well as going into this season. He was looking
much better in week 3.
That said, if Buck quit tomorrow, I'd happily welcome back Lapo. It was Lapo who got us to the point we could win that cup. And Lapo was the one who best used Strevie. Lapo is miles above goofs like Condell or Macadont.
The best thing about Buck is I'm convinced he'd make a horrific HC because of temperament. If suitors can realize this, we should be able to keep Buck basically forever.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 23, 2024, 02:25:18 AMWasn't there a guy named Cotton here before AH? I really have blocked out our RB performance pre-AH33. The running game before AH is really not worth my brain cells. I'm pretty sure we were "trying out" RBs for many seasons there.
Augustine is just a backup. 100%. But he's now the best NAT RB backup in the league, IMHO. That's why I pointed out how shameful it was Johnny had better stats than Brady through week 2. Obviously some big runs by Brady in week 3 solved that problem.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 23, 2024, 02:25:18 AMWasn't there a guy named Cotton here before AH? I really have blocked out our RB performance pre-AH33. The running game before AH is really not worth my brain cells. I'm pretty sure we were "trying out" RBs for many seasons there.
Augustine is just a backup. 100%. But he's now the best NAT RB backup in the league, IMHO. That's why I pointed out how shameful it was Johnny had better stats than Brady through week 2. Obviously some big runs by Brady in week 3 solved that problem.
Last 2 American RB's I can recall Chevon Walker and Timothy Flanders who spent many a year backing up A.H..
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 23, 2024, 05:51:52 AMLast 2 American RB's I can recall Chevon Walker and Timothy Flanders who spent many a year backing up A.H..
Ah ya, Ned. But Flanders was only ever in when AH was injured/spelling, so I wouldn't count him in the list of "starters". Flanders was the McCrae of his time, and I don't count McCrae as a starting RB either.
Walker I don't recall... I just remember a revolving door somewhat before AH33 showed up. No one stuck, no one stood out, no one was an all-star.
Who was the RB in the 2011 GC? Would that be the last time we had a "real" starting IMP RB? Or do you have to go all the way back to Roberts??
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 23, 2024, 07:39:23 AMAh ya, Ned. But Flanders was only ever in when AH was injured/spelling, so I wouldn't count him in the list of "starters". Flanders was the McCrae of his time, and I don't count McCrae as a starting RB either.
Walker I don't recall... I just remember a revolving door somewhat before AH33 showed up. No one stuck, no one stood out, no one was an all-star.
Who was the RB in the 2011 GC? Would that be the last time we had a "real" starting IMP RB? Or do you have to go all the way back to Roberts??
Fred Reid. He was a very good one.
Chad Simpson was also around that time, the Joe mack era, he had a thousand yard season. I most remember him for coming up out of the tackle all jacked after every 2 yard gain. Now everyone does it.
Chris Garrett also was a good one but popped his achilles in practice cutting short a promising career.
Man, these names...Will Ford, Fred Reid, Chad Simpson...you remember the names and you think it was only a few years ago, but holy crap time flies! :o