Any word on whether he's ok after that twist to his leg in game 1?
I thought he looked ok on the sidelines after
I finally brought my binoculars
Also interested in any info
The Sun:
No. 2 quarterback Chris Streveler may have dodged an injury bullet.
"I felt like it was intentional," Streveler said, post-game. "I said so to the ref right after. I didn't think it was necessary. No place in the game for it. We're all here trying to feed our families and play hard and win games within the lines, within the whistle. Stuff like that's totally avoidable and unnecessary."
Star receiver Kenny Lawler reportedly suffered a fractured arm against Montreal and is likely to be placed on the six-game injury list.
Quote from: Waffler on June 09, 2024, 04:03:04 PMThe Sun:
No. 2 quarterback Chris Streveler may have dodged an injury bullet.
"I felt like it was intentional," Streveler said, post-game. "I said so to the ref right after. I didn't think it was necessary. No place in the game for it. We're all here trying to feed our families and play hard and win games within the lines, within the whistle. Stuff like that's totally avoidable and unnecessary."
Star receiver Kenny Lawler reportedly suffered a fractured arm against Montreal and is likely to be placed on the six-game injury list.
It was totally an intent to injure play and I can't figure out why the refs didn't throw the flag and hit the defender with a 25 yd RP penalty and send him packing. I would like to hear from the refs on this one and why they didn't throw the flag--did the guy not twist his ankle hard enough or long enough??!! There was definite intent to injure there and no doubt the league hits the guy with a fine, its sad we can't get such an obvious call right during the game.
Quote from: dd on June 09, 2024, 10:23:41 PMThere was definite intent to injure there and no doubt the league hits the guy with a fine, it's sad we can't get such an obvious call right during the game.
There should be a fine levied, which will be something like $50. As far as the leg/ankle twist - someone had to do it since Dylan Wynn didn't dress for that game.
We are becoming a team of complainers
Quote from: bluengold204 on June 09, 2024, 11:22:05 PMWe are becoming a team of complainers
Disagree with this, calling it as we see it.
Here's the problem: this is the second time Strevie has gotten up and moaned to the refs/players. You really don't want to be the guy who's known for doing this. Now I expect many more defenders will try to "have fun" with this and this will only goad them into giving him an extra little twist on every tackle.
Better to be quiet and take it up with the league. Refs almost never see this stuff if it happens before the whistle, and they don't seem to care much if there's some extra handsy behavior after the whistle. I don't recall ever seeing any penalty called for twisty/holdy/handsy pile behavior! Hitting/shoving, sure, but not just sitting there holding a guy! It is tackle football, after all.
Someone needs to remind Strevie what Dave Dickenson clarified with the league before the 2019 WDF: a running QB can be treated as badly as a RB. And ask Brady how bad that is.
But the damage may be done, moving forward, moaning or not, he's got a target on his back ankles.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 10, 2024, 08:13:38 AMHere's the problem: this is the second time Strevie has gotten up and moaned to the refs/players.
Can you really blame him this time? He was already down and came up limping after the twist. Surely a ref saw that. The league needs to tell refs throw a flag on it. It's not football. If they can ban horse collar then they can ban this too. They both twist the leg.
Footnote: Stubblefield is confirmed to have torn his ACL so won't be back this year.
Quote from: bluengold204 on June 09, 2024, 11:22:05 PMWe are becoming a team of complainers
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Quote from: Waffler on June 10, 2024, 01:56:14 PMFootnote: Stubblefield is confirmed to have torn his ACL so won't be back this year.
Delicious karma. ;D
Quote from: Stretch on June 09, 2024, 10:30:26 PMThere should be a fine levied, which will be something like $50. As far as the leg/ankle twist - someone had to do it since Dylan Wynn didn't dress for that game.
Again and again, what restricts someone in the command center from whispering into the refs. ear when a blatant infraction is missed, instead of pretending it didn't happen? It's madness, they have the tools in place, but they don't fully use them!
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 10, 2024, 04:15:44 PMwhat restricts someone in the command center from whispering into the refs. ear when a blatant infraction is missed, instead of pretending it didn't happen?
Because the command centre staff is just as inept as the on field officials.
Quote from: Waffler on June 10, 2024, 01:56:14 PMFootnote: Stubblefield is confirmed to have torn his ACL so won't be back this year.
On the very next play no less. Delicious karma indeed.
Stubblefield's twist came AFTER the whistle, and was flagrant intent to injure. It wasn't a football play. It wasn't "being treated like an RB".
It was a concerted attempt to twist Strevelers leg in a direction a leg is not intended to go.
Had Streveler instead stayed on the ground, and had to be helped off the field, instead of manning up and hobbling off as Streveler is wont to do, eye in the sky might have given a match penalty for the behaviour they would have been able to review during the injury time-out.
And while Stubblefield should have been ejected had they reviewed it, he probably would have survived to play more than just one more play this season. Kharma bit him hard.
Strev17 looked very good today. Moving well, and making some nice quick throws.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 10, 2024, 08:13:38 AMHere's the problem: this is the second time Strevie has gotten up and moaned to the refs/players. You really don't want to be the guy who's known for doing this. Now I expect many more defenders will try to "have fun" with this and this will only goad them into giving him an extra little twist on every tackle.
Better to be quiet and take it up with the league. Refs almost never see this stuff if it happens before the whistle, and they don't seem to care much if there's some extra handsy behavior after the whistle. I don't recall ever seeing any penalty called for twisty/holdy/handsy pile behavior! Hitting/shoving, sure, but not just sitting there holding a guy! It is tackle football, after all.
Someone needs to remind Strevie what Dave Dickenson clarified with the league before the 2019 WDF: a running QB can be treated as badly as a RB. And ask Brady how bad that is.
But the damage may be done, moving forward, moaning or not, he's got a target on his back ankles.
Wayne Gretzky was known as a MAJOR whiner earlier in his playing career. Did not stop him from making NHL history! So sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. If you can back up your beefs, go at IT! :) Borderline stuff is not worth it though usually...move on and suck it up as things happen in a physical game. They are not playing flag football here!
Quote from: Stretch on June 10, 2024, 06:20:53 PMBecause the command centre staff is just as inept as the on field officials.
Speaking of the command center... now that we can see in there I realize it offers zero insight other than they use what appears to be 20" monitors. They might as well just put up a still photo. Same every time.
Quote from: blue_gold_84 on June 10, 2024, 03:55:12 PM[CITATIONS MISSING]
Delicious karma. ;D
Isn't it though!!
The D bag got exactly what he deserved. Love it when the football gods set things straight!!
Quote from: theaardvark on June 10, 2024, 06:22:55 PMStubblefield's twist came AFTER the whistle, and was flagrant intent to injure. It wasn't a football play. It wasn't "being treated like an RB".
It was a concerted attempt to twist Strevelers leg in a direction a leg is not intended to go.
I'm not disputing the shady rough play. But either one of two things is true:
1) Tacklers try to get in extra twists and nonsense whenever they can on all running ball carriers, especially the grinding RB's
or
2) The tackler specifically singled out Strevie to give the extra attention to
Either way, I'm right. Next time there's a call-in show or something with Brady on it, I'm sending in the question.
Quote from: Waffler on June 10, 2024, 10:22:08 PMSpeaking of the command center... now that we can see in there I realize it offers zero insight other than they use what appears to be 20" monitors. They might as well just put up a still photo. Same every time.
Ya, it's more like "oooh look at our (supposed) high-tech and how many people we have so we can get the call right -- trust us!"
They need to do like AAF did and let us hear the command conversation so we can see if they are addressing all the points us armchair refs are thinking up.