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Title: New TSN PANEL
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 05, 2024, 01:37:53 AM
No more Matty Dunigan? Hmmm

Hope he is cool?

Henoc Muamba is the replacement. I hope he does not disrespect the Blue Bombers like he did when he played.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: The Zipp on June 05, 2024, 02:42:47 AM
Wow.  Matt has been a regular for a while. Henoc is pretty well spoken and a recent player. 
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 05, 2024, 03:25:34 AM
Makes sense for a few reasons but I liked Dunigan as a player and thought he was kind of a funny panelist.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 05, 2024, 07:16:27 AM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 05, 2024, 01:37:53 AMNo more Matty Dunigan? Hmmm

Really?  Where'd you get that?  I haven't watched really much on TSN about CFL other than the paltry 2 PS games (not even done the 2nd one yet).

Matty was great and I'll really miss him if gone.

Are we sure he's gone gone and not just being put into the booth?  I really liked him in the booth, but many hated his style (here and the Sask forum).

Any skinny on "why"?

Henoc was on TSN a few times (PS and the GC last year??) and I didn't like him much.  He has a weird style that I just don't think works.  But I'll be open-minded if we're stuck with him.

I liked BLM so much more, he's a natural on the panel, but he's milking the end of his on-field career some more first.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 06, 2024, 07:56:22 AM
Muamba is a bit weird. He sure likes to blather about his old team and ignore the rest. Yah no bias there right?
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 06, 2024, 08:25:57 AM
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 06, 2024, 07:56:22 AMMuamba is a bit weird. He sure likes to blather about his old team and ignore the rest. Yah no bias there right?

You mean like half the CFL teams?  Haha.  He sure moved around a lot.  Gun for hire.

But ya, he seems fixated on TOR, that's for sure.

I'm wondering, did you hear/read somewhere Matty is done(igan) or did you just make a guess by the lack of him on the panel in the 3 TSN specials on yesterday?  I'm pretty sure Matty would rate an on-air shout-out and thank-you.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Lincoln Locomotive on June 06, 2024, 10:35:18 AM
Not a Muamba fan as he seems to have it in for the Bombers.....but that's just me not liking his style.    He does make some astute comments from time to time....just don't care for his delivery
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 06, 2024, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 06, 2024, 08:25:57 AMYou mean like half the CFL teams?  Haha.  He sure moved around a lot.  Gun for hire.

But ya, he seems fixated on TOR, that's for sure.

I'm wondering, did you hear/read somewhere Matty is done(igan) or did you just make a guess by the lack of him on the panel in the 3 TSN specials on yesterday?  I'm pretty sure Matty would rate an on-air shout-out and thank-you.
No I did not I am presuming as the panel made no mention of his GD duties etc..
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Sir Blue and Gold on June 06, 2024, 02:25:52 PM
I just did a quick search. Dunigan is back (according to TSN's own press release).

The CFL ON TSN panel, led by 2024 Canadian Screen Award-winning host Kate Beirness alongside Canadian Football Hall of Famers Matt Dunigan and Milt Stegall, sports betting lead analyst Davis Sanchez, veteran CFL head coaches Jim Barker and Paul LaPolice, and the 2022 GREY CUP Most Outstanding Player and Most Outstanding Canadian Henoc Muamba.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/the-2024-cfl-season-kicks-off-tonight-and-cfl-on-tsn-primes-fans-with-a-massive-slate-of-preview-content-861795299.html
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 06, 2024, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 06, 2024, 02:25:52 PMI just did a quick search. Dunigan is back (according to TSN's own press release).

The CFL ON TSN panel, led by 2024 Canadian Screen Award-winning host Kate Beirness alongside Canadian Football Hall of Famers Matt Dunigan and Milt Stegall, sports betting lead analyst Davis Sanchez, veteran CFL head coaches Jim Barker and Paul LaPolice, and the 2022 GREY CUP Most Outstanding Player and Most Outstanding Canadian Henoc Muamba.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/the-2024-cfl-season-kicks-off-tonight-and-cfl-on-tsn-primes-fans-with-a-massive-slate-of-preview-content-861795299.html
I guess they'll be rotating.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: pdirks67 on June 06, 2024, 04:20:11 PM
I like Dunigan in small doses. I loved him as a player, but he has trouble adding insight to a game, in my opinion.

I wish they'd get rid of Barker and Sanchez completely. Although Milt does seem to bring out the best in Sanchez, again, in my opinion. I think Milt forces Sanchez to occasionally go deeper than the lazy, superficial takes on a game.

Milt is the bad cop of the group, which was desperately needed.

Lapo is awesome - I could listen to him talk football all day. He's the one guy who seems to do his homework and never mails it in. I actually learn something when Lapo is talking. He could work on his delivery a bit, but that will come over time.

I like Beirness as a host. She keeps it fun and challenges the guys.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Foxhound on June 06, 2024, 04:32:45 PM
Twould really be nice to spell Matt Dunigan's name correctly though.

 :-\
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: pdirks67 on June 06, 2024, 09:09:58 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on June 06, 2024, 04:20:11 PMI like Dunigan in small doses. I loved him as a player, but he has trouble adding insight to a game, in my opinion.

I wish they'd get rid of Barker and Sanchez completely. Although Milt does seem to bring out the best in Sanchez, again, in my opinion. I think Milt forces Sanchez to occasionally go deeper than the lazy, superficial takes on a game.

Milt is the bad cop of the group, which was desperately needed.

Lapo is awesome - I could listen to him talk football all day. He's the one guy who seems to do his homework and never mails it in. I actually learn something when Lapo is talking. He could work on his delivery a bit, but that will come over time.

I like Beirness as a host. She keeps it fun and challenges the guys.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: pdirks67 on June 06, 2024, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Foxhound on June 06, 2024, 04:32:45 PMTwould really be nice to spell Matt Dunigan's name correctly though.

 :-\

Whoops - corrected!
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Waffler on June 06, 2024, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on June 06, 2024, 04:20:11 PMLapo is awesome - I could listen to him talk football all day. He's the one guy who seems to do his homework and never mails it in. I actually learn something when Lapo is talking. He could work on his delivery a bit, but that will come over time.

Lapo has put some unbelievable content on his youtube channel, much deeper than you would find on TSN.  Example: Cover 4 explained, not for 2 minutes like you might see at halftime but 16 minutes long. A lot of X's and O's. Also has up in depth pieces on what happens in training camp and pre-season game prep.

Cover 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfv2cIN913Y

His youtube home page
https://www.youtube.com/@coachlapo
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 06, 2024, 09:26:09 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on June 06, 2024, 04:20:11 PMI like Dunnigan in small doses. I loved him as a player, but he has trouble adding insight to a game, in my opinion.

I wish they'd get rid of Barker and Sanchez completely. Although Milt does seem to bring out the best in Sanchez, again, in my opinion. I think Milt forces Sanchez to occasionally go deeper than the lazy, superficial takes on a game.

Milt is the bad cop of the group, which was desperately needed.

Lapo is awesome - I could listen to him talk football all day. He's the one guy who seems to do his homework and never mails it in. I actually learn something when Lapo is talking. He could work on his delivery a bit, but that will come over time.

I like Beirness as a host. She keeps it fun and challenges the guys.

I wouldn't mind seeing Dunnigan moved to colour commentary, he's very good at it and brings excitement and enthusiasm to the broadcast.  As for Henoc, I don't hold a grudge but don't care much for his commentary style, as heard on "The Waggle Podcast", prefer Donnovan Bennett.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: pdirks67 on June 06, 2024, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: Waffler on June 06, 2024, 09:24:03 PMLapo has put some unbelievable content on his youtube channel, much deeper than you would find on TSN.  Example: Cover 4 explained, not for 2 minutes like you might see at halftime but 16 minutes long. A lot of X's and O's. Also has up in depth pieces on what happens in training camp and pre-season game prep.

Cover 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfv2cIN913Y

His youtube home page
https://www.youtube.com/@coachlapo

I will definitely be checking this out - THANKS for posting!
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 07, 2024, 06:45:13 AM
Quote from: Foxhound on June 06, 2024, 04:32:45 PMTwould really be nice to spell Matt Dunigan's name correctly though.

 :-\

I've been typing his name here for 10 years and I still have trouble remembering if it's 1 "n" or 2...  Not an easy name for spelling cues, and it's really not relatable to any other name in my life.  If anyone has a mnemonic, let me know!
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ichabod_crane on June 07, 2024, 06:57:32 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 07, 2024, 06:45:13 AMI've been typing his name here for 10 years and I still have trouble remembering if it's 1 "n" or 2...  Not an easy name for spelling cues, and it's really not relatable to any other name in my life.  If anyone has a mnemonic, let me know!

"Dun in again" is a nickname he had back in his playing days. Not sure if this helps you.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 07, 2024, 07:22:07 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on June 07, 2024, 06:57:32 AM"Dun in again" is a nickname he had back in his playing days. Not sure if this helps you.

This is perfect, thanks!!  Just what the doctor ordered.  DUN In aGAiN.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ichabod_crane on June 07, 2024, 07:35:22 AM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 07, 2024, 07:22:07 AMThis is perfect, thanks!!  Just what the doctor ordered.  DUN In aGAiN.

You are welcome! 🙂👍
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: GOLDMEMBER on June 13, 2024, 11:18:44 PM
Mmmm Kate passes the Blue Bomber slammer to Henoc and the slam dunks the harsh ideas. Booo

Milt upset by Davis. What else is new lol

I guess new addition is ok. Fart!  :))
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Big Daddy on June 14, 2024, 04:05:41 AM
Quote from: ichabod_crane on June 07, 2024, 06:57:32 AM"Dun in again" is a nickname he had back in his playing days. Not sure if this helps you.

My memory is that the nickname was "Down again".  Still one N, so still works.

While it wasn't inaccurate, Matty remains such a huge positive memory for me in my bomber history of following the team for more decades than I care to admit.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 14, 2024, 07:48:56 AM
Quote from: DM83 on June 14, 2024, 06:52:28 AMI agree with the post noting Matt is. Great in small doses. Agreed Lapo blows the doors off the  others....plus who knew?  Lapo has a personality!

Lapo also knew how to get his O into the EZ on 1st & G at the 7 in 2019...
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Waffler on June 14, 2024, 11:52:23 AM
To me the panel has become too much of a comedy. The second half time segment was solely about what they all were wearing... what?  Not a single mention of football. At least they seem to be having a good time which is good because it does nothing for me.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: pdirks67 on June 16, 2024, 06:13:03 PM
Watching TSN's Euro 2024 panel brings home how bad their CFL panel is.

The Euro panel: Prepared. Professional. Focused. Members have a deep vocabulary. Use replays to good effect to build on their comments. Play off each other well. Appear extremely knowledgeable and authoritative.

The CFL panel: None of the above.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Blueforlife on June 16, 2024, 06:39:06 PM
I am happy with the panel.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ModAdmin on June 16, 2024, 06:40:46 PM
The panel could be strengthened, IMHO, by replacing Sanchez and Muamba with LaPolice and BLM (when BLM soon retires).  Maybe Muamba has not yet had enough time for this opinion, however, I still believe either PLP or BLM would be better.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ModAdmin on June 16, 2024, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: DM83 on June 16, 2024, 07:41:16 PMLapo is awesome.  I would think he will be coaching should he want it shortly.  Lapo in Edmonton, once the good there moves away.

Or back to Winnipeg, after OShea guides a player less squad to an awful season.

Mike O'Shea will not be held responsible for team performance this year.  I'd be happy to make a small (legal) wager on that.  Players leaving/retiring and/or a string of injuries that result in less-than-stellar season will not be on his shoulders.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Blueforlife on June 16, 2024, 11:39:46 PM
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 16, 2024, 07:53:45 PMMike O'Shea will not be held responsible for team performance this year.  I'd be happy to make a small (legal) wager on that.  Players leaving/retiring and/or a string of injuries that result in less-than-stellar season will not be on his shoulders.
Your negativity and tone regarding the club is getting a little much.  Not sure where this is coming from regarding accountability for MOS.  The Bomber organization is world class and will hold everyone accountable as needed (too early to know who or what that might be).  Your idea of a wager on it is a pretty unusual bet.

Comments in brackets.

Players leaving/retiring (happens every year) and/or a string of injuries (can occur to any club) that result in less-than-stellar season (after 2 games this is an over the top suggestion) will not be on his shoulders.

Disagree with everything you said.  Your tone continues to have the panic flavor to it.

Quote from: DM83 on June 16, 2024, 07:41:16 PMYes Mod I agree.
That. Play by play guy is a homer wanna bee.
CJOB should get rid of the guy they have, another wanna.bee
Nice comment in  the soccer guys. I don't watch, but I don't wanna hear from nobody .
Dunnigan might or should be being groomed for color commentary.

But back to Muamba.  How classless to go and criticize so much when the guy was a mercenary.  Not a very loyal guy moving every year (almost)as a player.

On yesterday's broadcast he was absent, and the flow was better? Maybe he gets better, but he doesn't fit into the panels chemistry. I hope he does not succeed.

Lapo is awesome.  I would think he will be coaching should he want it shortly.  Lapo in Edmonton, once the good there moves away.

Or back to Winnipeg, after OShea guides a player less squad to an awful season.
Disagree with most of this and some of what you are posting is disrespectful.  Lapo is a good coach.  Too early to suggest an awful season.  Agree on Dunigan.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ModAdmin on June 16, 2024, 11:57:15 PM
Quote from: Blueforlife on June 16, 2024, 11:39:46 PMYour negativity and tone regarding the club is getting a little much.  Not sure where this is coming from regarding accountability for MOS.  The Bomber organization is world class and will hold everyone accountable as needed (too early to know who or what that might be).  Your idea of a wager on it is a pretty unusual bet.

Comments in brackets.

Players leaving/retiring (happens every year) and/or a string of injuries (can occur to any club) that result in less-than-stellar season (after 2 games this is an over the top suggestion) will not be on his shoulders.

Disagree with everything you said.  Your tone continues to have the panic flavor to it.
Disagree with most of this and some of what you are posting is disrespectful.  Lapo is a good coach.  Too early to suggest an awful season.  Agree on Dunigan.


Did you read my post?
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Blueforlife on June 17, 2024, 12:01:54 AM
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 16, 2024, 11:57:15 PMDid you read my post?
Yes what am I missing? What do you mean by it?
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ModAdmin on June 17, 2024, 12:04:24 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on June 17, 2024, 12:01:54 AMYes what am I missing? What do you mean by it?

Go back to post #31 and read what I said and your response.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Blueforlife on June 17, 2024, 12:06:44 AM
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 17, 2024, 12:04:24 AMGo back to post #31 and read what I said and your response.
More confused now than the 1st time I read it.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ModAdmin on June 17, 2024, 12:14:54 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on June 17, 2024, 12:06:44 AMMore confused now than the 1st time I read it.

DM83's veiled suggestion was that the Bombers will have "an awful season" and that LaPolice would be a candidate to replace Mike O'Shea.

My response suggested that IF the Bombers had a less-than-stellar season, Mike O'Shea would NOT be held responsible because of the player changes and string of injuries.


Make sense now?
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Blueforlife on June 17, 2024, 12:19:20 AM
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 17, 2024, 12:14:54 AMDM83's veiled suggestion was that the Bombers will have "an awful season" and that LaPolice would be a candidate to replace Mike O'Shea.

My response suggested that IF the Bombers had a less-than-stellar season, Mike O'Shea would NOT be held responsible because of the player changes and string of injuries.


Make sense now?
Yes, my bad, but your post was a little kyptic imo.  I still disagree, MOS would be held responsible as needed.  Pretty convoluted scenario lol.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: ModAdmin on June 17, 2024, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: Blueforlife on June 17, 2024, 12:19:20 AMYes, my bad, but your post was a little kyptic imo.  I still disagree, MOS would be held responsible as needed.

Then we'll agree to disagree on your last statement.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: BBRT on June 17, 2024, 05:13:15 PM
Quote from: ModAdmin on June 17, 2024, 12:21:38 AMThen we'll agree to disagree on your last statement.

Just signed on now and reviewed all the discussions. Not going to jump off the bridge just yet. Long way to go. And besides here in Calgary we have a water shortage so no where to jump off of and hit water.  ;D
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: theaardvark on June 17, 2024, 05:43:55 PM
MOS's tenure with the WFC will be decided by MOS and only MOS.  He is going to be here as long as he wants. Along with Walters and Miller.  They are fixtures now, and even a 2-16 season would not be a reason to make a change.  But should opportunities south of the border wave fistfulls of cash at them, I can see movement.  Or if Walter's cushy AA job in Guelph rears its head again...

Lapo is a better TV guy than a coach.  I might even suggest that he could be a good GM/Player personnel guy before being an HC again.  OC would be a place on a coaching staff he would excel at, but I think it is below his paygrade.

Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 17, 2024, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: pdirks67 on June 16, 2024, 06:13:03 PMWatching TSN's Euro 2024 panel brings home how bad their CFL panel is.

Ya, but it's soccer!  :P

As for the panel, everyone knows I'm a fan.  They know their core audience who doesn't just pvr-skip over everything are uber-cfl fans who have heard it all before, so they do goofy shenanigans to keep it fresh and light.

I'm a panel fan.  Totally not sold on Henoc, but I'll still give him a chance.  Like the prev poster said, BLM was faaar better.  I'm sure BLM is a shoe-in once he finally retires for good.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 17, 2024, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: DM83 on June 16, 2024, 07:41:16 PMOr back to Winnipeg, after OShea guides a player less squad to an awful season.

After MOS/KW's record, they get at least 2, most likely 3, years of suckage before anyone even mentions firing.  We're only 2 games into suckage... they get 52 more suckage games before they have to worry.  I'd say it's more likely MOS retires before we can him.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 17, 2024, 08:10:07 PM
Quote from: BBRT on June 17, 2024, 05:13:15 PMJust signed on now and reviewed all the discussions. Not going to jump off the bridge just yet. Long way to go. And besides here in Calgary we have a water shortage so no where to jump off of and hit water.  ;D

Come take some from us!  Water everywhere, and the concomitant mosquitos.  When they build the oil pipelines from AB they should tack on a reverse pipeline to take the water back to AB!
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: theaardvark on June 17, 2024, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 17, 2024, 08:10:07 PMCome take some from us!  Water everywhere, and the concomitant mosquitos.  When they build the oil pipelines from AB they should tack on a reverse pipeline to take the water back to AB!

CGY does not have a shortage of actual water, but rather an inadequate delivery mechanism at present, much of the water pipe system is 100 years old, and decided to fail all at once. 

It is just a matter of time, money and equipment to get the system repaired and supplying normally. 

5 - 6 weeks at latest estimate, with the Stampede happening in 3...

I'm betting the area around the stampede is getting repaired first.
Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 18, 2024, 02:59:51 AM
Coach LaPo analyzes Dru Brown;s game against the Bombers.

Title: Re: New TSN PANEL
Post by: TecnoGenius on June 18, 2024, 03:06:16 AM
Quote from: theaardvark on June 17, 2024, 09:11:57 PMCGY does not have a shortage of actual water, but rather an inadequate delivery mechanism at present, much of the water pipe system is 100 years old, and decided to fail all at once. 

Ah, thanks for the update/lesson.  I haven't been following it other than hearing everyone complain and panic.  Football season, dontchaknow -- don't much care about anything else!  ;D  ;D  8)  8)