Mondays practice should be interesting. Will BO20 be at practice. What will our injury list look like. Who will be returning kicks. Are we bring in any players released from other teams.
We know that Bighill, Lawson, Noah Hallett and Parker will be moved to the 6 game IR. There might be a few others moved to the 1 game IR.
I think the return game is a work in progress and will be done by committee. No way to tell with certainty who will likely carry most of the load.
Generally I don't think we'll bring in any players from other teams immediately. OTOH the mix on our PR is a bit strange so anything is possible. I was almost certain we'd keep the Canadian punter on the PR as development depth for example.
It would be good to get some practice reports this week. Who is working with the 1st team: 1 receiver, 1 DB, MLB, SAM and DL are all somewhat in flux. The roster includes many possibilities at the moment. There were 7 import DL shown on the roster?
We're really going to need a depth chart. So many new players and 8 of them are changing jersey number to boot.
My pure guess:
COLLAROS (Streveller Wilson)
OLIVEIRA (Augustine Chris-Ike)
BRYANT DOBSON KOLANKOWSKI NEUFELD (Wallace) LOFTON
LAWLER JOHNSON (Clercius) DEMSKI SCHOEN WOLITARSKY
JEFFERSON THOMAS (Schmekel) FOX (Woods) HABA (Garbutt)
WILSON (Cadwallader Charbonneau) GEMMEL (Gauthier Ayers) COLE (Kramdi Karamoko)
BRIDGES NICHOLS HALLETT (Kelly) HOLM FORD (Bonds)
Castillo Sheahan Benson
Mitchell
IR: Bighill Parker Alexander Eli Lawson Kornelson Hallett
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 02, 2024, 10:45:34 PMMy pure guess:
COLLAROS (Streveller Wilson)
OLIVEIRA (Augustine Chris-Ike)
BRYANT DOBSON KOLANKOWSKI NEUFELD (Wallace) LOFTON
LAWLER JOHNSON (Clercius) DEMSKI SCHOEN WOLITARSKY
JEFFERSON THOMAS (Schmekel) FOX (Woods) HABA (Garbutt)
WILSON (Cadwallader Charbonneau) GEMMEL (Gauthier Ayers) COLE (Kramdi Karamoko)
BRIDGES NICHOLS HALLETT (Kelly) HOLM FORD (Bonds)
Castillo Sheahan Benson
Mitchell
IR: Bighill Parker Alexander Eli Lawson Kornelson Hallett
I assume that Ayers would be ahead of Gemmel at MLB as Gemmel was moved to the PR. Mind you, I don't know if the coaching staff sees Ayers as a true MLB.
Quote from: M.O.A.B. on June 02, 2024, 10:45:34 PMMy pure guess:
COLLAROS (Streveller Wilson)
OLIVEIRA (Augustine Chris-Ike)
BRYANT DOBSON KOLANKOWSKI NEUFELD (Wallace) LOFTON
LAWLER JOHNSON (Clercius) DEMSKI SCHOEN WOLITARSKY
JEFFERSON THOMAS (Schmekel) FOX (Woods) HABA (Garbutt)
WILSON (Cadwallader Charbonneau) GEMMEL (Gauthier Ayers) COLE (Kramdi Karamoko)
BRIDGES NICHOLS HALLETT (Kelly) HOLM FORD (Bonds)
Castillo Sheahan Benson
Mitchell
IR: Bighill Parker Alexander Eli Lawson Kornelson Hallett
We put Johnson on the PR. I was suspicious that Alexander might be going to IR so we'll see how that shakes out.
If Eli goes to IR, then we're really thin on the OL for Canadian depth and depth overall unless there is movement from the PR and possible ratio change.
Can't really tell who is really starting where until we see the IR lists. It could be scary on defence in particular.
Derek Taylor put his guess at the depth chart here:
https://x.com/dtonob/status/1797314369535308180?s=46&t=8CnDJGqaCBCZBxQBGwVX4Q
Quote from: The Zipp on June 02, 2024, 11:29:43 PMDerek Taylor put his guess at the depth chart here:
https://x.com/dtonob/status/1797314369535308180?s=46&t=8CnDJGqaCBCZBxQBGwVX4Q
Sounds about right. The timing regarding whether there are a few injuries to be dealt with in the short term may alter what happens game one.
If Alexander is out for game 1 as an example, we could have as many as 10 Canadians to choose to start or sub in an import. All of this means our choices for the DI's is in play.
If Wilson is out, as well as Biggie, then I have no confidence in our starting LB corps going into week 1 and beyond. I know The Mafia loves to say "next man up" and say it's all fine to play more NATs, but we all know it's not. Not when it's both WILL and MAC.
Unless our DT run stop is magically as good as 2017-2018 WPG, we're going to be eviscerated in the run, and probably in the short pass to the flat. And since our DT and whole DL will have a ton of rookies/sophomores of questionable starting capability, the chances of this are slim to none.
As such, do we now seriously go out and look at 3+ year starting-capable MLBs? Find a way to sign Clements, who knows the system? Anyone still couch-sitting in FA? Or other "retirees" who can be enticed?
I seem to be the only one harping on this, but I think game 1 is a critical must-win game. It sets the entire tone for the "WPG is the best and MTL just lucked into a win in a 3-down situation" mindset. I don't want to see us hamstrung without a true, vet "QB of the defense". (And I love Gauthier, but he's not that guy outside of short-term injury replacement.)
The current chart guesses posit 9 starting NATs. Insanity. Where are the scouting ELC gems like Alford and Schoen were for us? We used to find one every 2 years. We are overdue for another one!! Ugh...
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 03, 2024, 08:13:23 AMThe current chart guesses posit 9 starting NATs. Insanity. Where are the scouting ELC gems like Alford and Schoen were for us? We used to find one every 2 years. We are overdue for another one!! Ugh...
Maybe let us play a game before rendering the scouting for 2024 ineffective? Did either of those guys light up the pre-season so good they were household names before week 1?
Just a thought.
Looks like the Jets scouting staff was bringing in guys. Does nit look good.
Is this the year we loose Zach. No linebackers. Yikes.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 03, 2024, 08:13:23 AMThe current chart guesses posit 9 starting NATs. Insanity. Where are the scouting ELC gems like Alford and Schoen were for us? We used to find one every 2 years. We are overdue for another one!! Ugh...
The depth chart actually lists 10 starting Canadians but it also lists 60 players including everyone on our PR list. Only the 4 players we know are injured are not on the chart: Bighill, Lawson, Parker and Noah Hallett.
So I think it's more of an option list of where everyone might line up if and when they dress. We'll see what the official DC looks like later in the week.
It's interesting and somewhat helpful in other ways I suppose.
All of Kramdi, Gauthier, Thomas and Ford are choices that could start. Ford is the most likely to start but I'm not sure which of the others WILL start? The best thing I could suggest is that the others are veterans on the team. The depth behind them includes a bunch of rookies or 2nd year players.
I'd think if we didn't lose 3 starters on defence, we see a different look. It is what it is.
Quote from: DM83 on June 03, 2024, 12:14:21 PMLooks like the Jets scouting staff was bringing in guys. Does nit look good.
Is this the year we loose Zach. No linebackers. Yikes.
Our defence has some major holes
Two practices and a walk thru. IIRC there were 10 starters that didn't see one rep in either pre season game. Some hardly participated in TC practices either!!!
This will be a big test in ability to prepare on short notice.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 03, 2024, 07:57:24 AMIf Wilson is out, as well as Biggie, then I have no confidence in our starting LB corps going into week 1 and beyond. I know The Mafia loves to say "next man up" and say it's all fine to play more NATs, but we all know it's not. Not when it's both WILL and MAC.
Unless our DT run stop is magically as good as 2017-2018 WPG, we're going to be eviscerated in the run, and probably in the short pass to the flat. And since our DT and whole DL will have a ton of rookies/sophomores of questionable starting capability, the chances of this are slim to none.
As such, do we now seriously go out and look at 3+ year starting-capable MLBs? Find a way to sign Clements, who knows the system? Anyone still couch-sitting in FA? Or other "retirees" who can be enticed?
I seem to be the only one harping on this, but I think game 1 is a critical must-win game. It sets the entire tone for the "WPG is the best and MTL just lucked into a win in a 3-down situation" mindset. I don't want to see us hamstrung without a true, vet "QB of the defense". (And I love Gauthier, but he's not that guy outside of short-term injury replacement.)
I agree with most of what you said, except the bolded.
In no way is this a "must win". The team has shown that it is willing to go into the first few weeks feeling things out and treating it almost like an extended training camp for those hopefulls still on the roster/PR.
Personally I'm not too high on this team right now, too much uncertainty. But it's not how you start a season that is important.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 03, 2024, 07:57:24 AMIf Wilson is out, as well as Biggie, then I have no confidence in our starting LB corps going into week 1 and beyond. I know The Mafia loves to say "next man up" and say it's all fine to play more NATs, but we all know it's not. Not when it's both WILL and MAC.
Unless our DT run stop is magically as good as 2017-2018 WPG, we're going to be eviscerated in the run, and probably in the short pass to the flat. And since our DT and whole DL will have a ton of rookies/sophomores of questionable starting capability, the chances of this are slim to none.
As such, do we now seriously go out and look at 3+ year starting-capable MLBs? Find a way to sign Clements, who knows the system? Anyone still couch-sitting in FA? Or other "retirees" who can be enticed?
I seem to be the only one harping on this, but I think game 1 is a critical must-win game. It sets the entire tone for the "WPG is the best and MTL just lucked into a win in a 3-down situation" mindset. I don't want to see us hamstrung without a true, vet "QB of the defense". (And I love Gauthier, but he's not that guy outside of short-term injury replacement.)
Stop ******** on Canadian players. The CFL was at it's best when it started a minimum of 10, instead of 7. The talent has only gotten better.
Even back in 2009-2010, the Rider's and Al's started around 9 Canadians each.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 03, 2024, 07:57:24 AMIf Wilson is out, as well as Biggie, then I have no confidence in our starting LB corps going into week 1 and beyond. I know The Mafia loves to say "next man up" and say it's all fine to play more NATs, but we all know it's not. Not when it's both WILL and MAC.
Unless our DT run stop is magically as good as 2017-2018 WPG, we're going to be eviscerated in the run, and probably in the short pass to the flat. And since our DT and whole DL will have a ton of rookies/sophomores of questionable starting capability, the chances of this are slim to none.
As such, do we now seriously go out and look at 3+ year starting-capable MLBs? Find a way to sign Clements, who knows the system? Anyone still couch-sitting in FA? Or other "retirees" who can be enticed?
I seem to be the only one harping on this, but I think game 1 is a critical must-win game. It sets the entire tone for the "WPG is the best and MTL just lucked into a win in a 3-down situation" mindset. I don't want to see us hamstrung without a true, vet "QB of the defense". (And I love Gauthier, but he's not that guy outside of short-term injury replacement.)
I think we should wait and see what developes. I do not see this as a critical must-win game. Long season ahead - lots of things can happen as it relates to all positions let along the MB slot. I would prefer that we build toward the later half of the season and just see how things evolve.
Quote from: BBRT on June 03, 2024, 04:05:00 PMI think we should wait and see what developes. I do not see this as a critical must-win game. Long season ahead - lots of things can happen as it relates to all positions let along the MB slot. I would prefer that we build toward the later half of the season and just see how things evolve.
Yes, not a must win. Eastern team. I think there is a good amount of fan anxiety, wondering what kind of team we will see. A lot of changes. We learned very little from the pre-season.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 03, 2024, 07:57:24 AMIf Wilson is out, as well as Biggie, then I have no confidence in our starting LB corps going into week 1 and beyond. I know The Mafia loves to say "next man up" and say it's all fine to play more NATs, but we all know it's not. Not when it's both WILL and MAC.
Unless our DT run stop is magically as good as 2017-2018 WPG, we're going to be eviscerated in the run, and probably in the short pass to the flat. And since our DT and whole DL will have a ton of rookies/sophomores of questionable starting capability, the chances of this are slim to none.
As such, do we now seriously go out and look at 3+ year starting-capable MLBs? Find a way to sign Clements, who knows the system? Anyone still couch-sitting in FA? Or other "retirees" who can be enticed?
I seem to be the only one harping on this, but I think game 1 is a critical must-win game. It sets the entire tone for the "WPG is the best and MTL just lucked into a win in a 3-down situation" mindset. I don't want to see us hamstrung without a true, vet "QB of the defense". (And I love Gauthier, but he's not that guy outside of short-term injury replacement.)
I don't think Clement was ever a solution at MLB. While I'd prefer we had an alternative besides Gauthier, he certainly has experience with our defence. The DL has to be an improvement over 2023 even though it's not exactly clear who is starting and whether 1 or 2 DI's are DL players.
By my count we have 3 too many bodies on the AR at the moment. That means we may have some injuries which have to be made by Wednesday. It also could mean we have some shuffling between the AR and PR and possibly the deletion of a couple of bodies?
If anybody is actually a practice maybe they can get us a heads up and who looks to be " out " and who 1st string starters are at the moment.
Ayers is shown as depth at MLB. He's 20 lbs lighter than Bighill. He's also taller than either Bighill or Gauthier by 4 inches. So he's a different body type.
I didn't see him much in pre-season so have no idea of his speed, hitting power and football IQ.
Anybody have any idea of his readiness to potentially start?
Quote from: Waffler on June 03, 2024, 04:12:37 PMYes, not a must win. Eastern team. I think there is a good amount of fan anxiety, wondering what kind of team we will see. A lot of changes. We learned very little from the pre-season.
Not too worried, will wait to see how they play and if they have any deficiencies, have to put ultimate faith in the coaching staff to know what they're doing. Starting Gauthier and Kramdi should not be a problem, they've played before and can handle their roles, bigger concern with rookies(Ford too)in the secondary busting coverage leading to big gains and TD's.
If the Als play a great game, they have a legitimate chance of beating the Bombers, which is also a possibility.
From Ed Tait:
Myron Mitchell handling punt return duties at practice
Brandon Alexander at safety, Bonds at CB
BO's workload limited so far
Lofton at RT, Dobson at LG, Ontaria Wilson at Reciever
From DT:
Collaros just threw the most ridiculous pass...scrambling, fit it into a ridiculously tiny window with a defender in tight coverage.
I'm still laughing in disbelief at how great that throw was.
From Bauming:
Zach Collaros just made one of the most impressive throws I have ever seen in-person. Impossibly small window to hit Johnny Augustine on and out-and-up down the sideline while draped in coverage. Incredible. #Bombers
Myron made the most sense to return kicks.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 03, 2024, 06:52:46 PMMyron made the most sense to return kicks.
Just started watching his highlights (there aren't many clips out there), and he does have that burst that we're looking for. He also isn't tiny at 6'1" 180lbs. He could grow into a really nice fit for our offence going forward!
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 03, 2024, 04:30:09 PMNot too worried, will wait to see how they play and if they have any deficiencies, have to put ultimate faith in the coaching staff to know what they're doing. Starting Gauthier and Kramdi should not be a problem, they've played before and can handle their roles, bigger concern with rookies(Ford too)in the secondary busting coverage leading to big gains and TD's.
If the Als play a great game, they have a legitimate chance of beating the Bombers, which is also a possibility.
Don't be concerned about Ford. The guy is in his third year or second in you don't include his NFL year. He was drafted because he has the speed to keep up with recievers.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 03, 2024, 04:30:09 PMNot too worried, will wait to see how they play and if they have any deficiencies, have to put ultimate faith in the coaching staff to know what they're doing. Starting Gauthier and Kramdi should not be a problem, they've played before and can handle their roles, bigger concern with rookies(Ford too)in the secondary busting coverage leading to big gains and TD's.
If the Als play a great game, they have a legitimate chance of beating the Bombers, which is also a possibility.
I'd say there is a good chance the Als beat the Bombers on Thursday. We're favored by 6.5 points but I don't think we will be as ready as they will be.
Quote from: LXTSN on June 03, 2024, 09:00:49 PMI'd say there is a good chance the Als beat the Bombers on Thursday. We're favored by 6.5 points but I don't think we will be as ready as they will be.
We shall see. I'm curious you are basing that statement on what?
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 03, 2024, 09:07:19 PMWe shall see. I'm curious you are basing that statement on what?
I could absolutely see an upset. I think there's going to be a lot of parity in the CFL this year and it's going to be hard to predict each week.
We've a brand new defensive coordinator, special teams coach and more roster turnover since 2019. We'll be a competitive, fun team but prepare for some ups and downs. This is not going to be a 2021 steamroll.
As much as it pains me to type this the ALS are the grey cup champions. They haven't lost in a number of games. This could go either way especially given it's the first week and our starters haven't played much.
Hoping for sad face Fajardo on Thursday
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on June 03, 2024, 08:40:43 PMDon't be concerned about Ford. The guy is in his third year or second in you don't include his NFL year. He was drafted because he has the speed to keep up with recievers.
In reality Ford has played in one pro football game in his entire career, I'm sure he'll be ok in the long-term but there maybe a few hiccups along the way.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 04, 2024, 01:55:36 AMIn reality Ford has played in one pro football game in his entire career, I'm sure he'll be ok in the long-term but there maybe a few hiccups along the way.
It probably won't be perfect but he's playing field corner which is probably the most forgiving in the entire secondary. His speed should help cover ground quickly and a guy with his athleticism should be able to recover out there more easily as he learns.
It looks like BO20 had a heavy wrap on his right hamstring today.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 03, 2024, 12:06:11 PMMaybe let us play a game before rendering the scouting for 2024 ineffective? Did either of those guys light up the pre-season so good they were household names before week 1?
Just a thought.
In fact, yes. Think back to the forum chatter in TC and PS regarding Schoen and Alford. Schoen was talked about as being off the charts and was instantly a shoe-in for the starting spot.
Alford was instantly being touted as having the "best hips" MOS had seen in forever.
All before week 1.
I remember this clearly from the forum and pressers at the time. It stands out to me now as I doubted both. I didn't really know what "hips" meant, and them screaming about Schoen didn't get me too excited either as I thought Ellingson was going to be da man.
When I'm wrong, I like to learn from it, long term, hence my strong memories of all of this.
So ya, the fact that ZERO of the rookies are giving off those Schoen/Alford vibes (for 2 years running!) makes me think our scouts have lost some mojo. Of course, there's luck too. But I was hoping for the next big score this season... MTL seemed to get all the hot rookies last year, and that's why they beat us.
I want to correct my Rigmaiden comment, though. Looks like he left us in the 2020/2021 off-season, so that means Schoen was a 100% Rigmaiden-less find? So that's a feather in the cap of McManus/Goveia. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on June 03, 2024, 03:46:40 PMStop ******** on Canadian players. The CFL was at it's best when it started a minimum of 10, instead of 7. The talent has only gotten better.
Hey, I'm the last to poop on NATs. I'm pro-ratio and would love to discuss 10 NAT ratios.
BUT... we currently are a 7-NAT ratio league (+1 FAKENAT we can basically ignore because so many qualify on every team). If starting 8 or 9 or 10 NAT for the heck of it was a winning strategy, every team would do it.
We've consistently been the only team starting more than we have to for 1-2 seasons, and no one else is following our lead. You could say "hey look, more NATs equals more GC visits", but then I'd point out that since we started going more NAT-crazy we've had zero GC wins.
Most teams try to start 0, 1, or maybe 2 NAT on D, because good D players are predominantly IMP (and often cheaper when ELC). Starting 3, 4 or 5 NAT on D is completely unheard of in recent CFL. That's why I say "insanity". There's a reason teams (including us) have traditionally "hidden" their D NAT @FS.
If you pull a "moneyball" and prove me wrong (or a 4-NAT starting D on Thursday is lights out), then great, I'll bow to the new wisdom. Until then, I'll be quaking in my boots and hoping Zach & co can put up 53, because we may need it!!
Quote from: Waffler on June 03, 2024, 04:12:37 PMYes, not a must win. Eastern team. I think there is a good amount of fan anxiety, wondering what kind of team we will see. A lot of changes. We learned very little from the pre-season.
Quote from: The Zipp on June 04, 2024, 01:47:47 AMAs much as it pains me to type this the ALS are the grey cup champions. They haven't lost in a number of games. This could go either way especially given it's the first week and our starters haven't played much.
If we whoop them by 2+ scores the entire league will say "see they just the won GC by luck and WPG is still the best". That will stick the entire early season (or longer) and be a powerful morale booster for us and morale-sinker for everyone we play.
If MTL comes to we-never-lose-at-home PAS and whoops our butt, then the entire league will say "MTL are legit contenders and really did earn that GC, and WPG are old fogeys who won't win squat this year". Again, this mindset will infect both our team and opponent teams, and last quite a while.
Even though the money will be on TOR v WPG in the 2024 GC, this game vs MTL will be way more important than any regular-season meeting we have vs TOR!
We always botch a game we are supposed to win (like vs OTT Crum last year), and it always makes us stronger, but those are nothing games from a morale standpoint. This is not the time to have our mulligan, and losing it
may not make us stronger.
This game sets the tone and shows the league who we are for weeks to come. The players won't say it, but they're all still hurting over losing to these young upstarts and can't-throw-Cody "Five-Yard-O" (excuse the name liberty as I'm trying to make a point). Losing it --
at home!! -- will re-open all of those wounds.
Quote from: The Zipp on June 03, 2024, 06:32:20 PMZach Collaros just made one of the most impressive throws I have ever seen in-person. Impossibly small window to hit Johnny Augustine on and out-and-up down the sideline while draped in coverage. Incredible. #Bombers
a) Don't they film practice for player-improvement-study? Maybe someone can leak this... talk about a morale boost!
b) Really nice to hear Johnny was the receiver. It would be great if he could get more of a role this seasons, and take over some of the RB-as-receiver duties McCrae was doing. He's always dressed and thus a "freebie" in the schemes.
However, let's hope any extra practice for Johnny isn't a hint that Brady will be kept out! No Brady
PLUS a new/revamped/weaker OL does
NOT spell running success!!
Quote from: Pigskin on June 04, 2024, 03:50:57 AMIt looks like BO20 had a heavy wrap on his right hamstring today.
Welp, I'm glad we paid him $1zillion signing bonus plus the biggest RB contract ever in the CFL! Yay! :P :P :P :P I hope the injury is very very very, very very very very short term, for all of our sake's!
I'll start warming up my best "GO JOHNNY" shouts for Thursday, as it may get heavy use...
(How on earth are we getting so many of these injuries from just practice/camp?! Holy smokes, they aren't even being caused by the PS games!)
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 04, 2024, 08:54:29 AMa) Don't they film practice for player-improvement-study? Maybe someone can leak this... talk about a morale boost!
b) Really nice to hear Johnny was the receiver. It would be great if he could get more of a role this seasons, and take over some of the RB-as-receiver duties McCrae was doing. He's always dressed and thus a "freebie" in the schemes.
However, let's hope any extra practice for Johnny isn't a hint that Brady will be kept out! No Brady PLUS a new/revamped/weaker OL does NOT spell running success!!
Welp, I'm glad we paid him $1zillion signing bonus plus the biggest RB contract ever in the CFL! Yay! :P :P :P :P I hope the injury is very very very, very very very very short term, for all of our sake's!
I'll start warming up my best "GO JOHNNY" shouts for Thursday, as it may get heavy use...
(How on earth are we getting so many of these injuries from just practice/camp?! Holy smokes, they aren't even being caused by the PS games!)
BO20 was injured in a off season workout. Like BO20 said, he pushed it a little to hard and injured himself.
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 04, 2024, 08:38:37 AMHey, I'm the last to poop on NATs. I'm pro-ratio and would love to discuss 10 NAT ratios.
BUT... we currently are a 7-NAT ratio league (+1 FAKENAT we can basically ignore because so many qualify on every team). If starting 8 or 9 or 10 NAT for the heck of it was a winning strategy, every team would do it.
We've consistently been the only team starting more than we have to for 1-2 seasons, and no one else is following our lead. You could say "hey look, more NATs equals more GC visits", but then I'd point out that since we started going more NAT-crazy we've had zero GC wins.
Most teams try to start 0, 1, or maybe 2 NAT on D, because good D players are predominantly IMP (and often cheaper when ELC). Starting 3, 4 or 5 NAT on D is completely unheard of in recent CFL. That's why I say "insanity". There's a reason teams (including us) have traditionally "hidden" their D NAT @FS.
If you pull a "moneyball" and prove me wrong (or a 4-NAT starting D on Thursday is lights out), then great, I'll bow to the new wisdom. Until then, I'll be quaking in my boots and hoping Zach & co can put up 53, because we may need it!!
Who cares if it's unheard of? If the Bomber's are winning and the Canucks on Defense are playing well, who cares?
Looks like partly cloudy and 14 for kickoff. Like it.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 04, 2024, 04:36:47 PMLooks like party cloudy and 14 for kickoff. Like it.
Agreed! I'll take a nice cool night over a 28 degree heater any day or night.
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 04, 2024, 05:35:41 PMAgreed! I'll take a nice cool night over a 28 degree heater any day or night.
I do love the hot, sunny ones.
Lots of activity at the Bomber Store today. Nice to see people loading up on Bomber gear. Lot's of nice clothing this year.
Quote from: Pigskin on June 04, 2024, 04:36:47 PMLooks like partly cloudy and 14 for kickoff. Like it.
Now it's sunny and 18. It's going to change again by Thursday morning I'm sure :D
Quote from: Jesse on June 04, 2024, 05:42:45 PMI do love the hot, sunny ones.
Makes the overpriced beer taste just a bit better.
Quote from: Jesse on June 04, 2024, 05:42:45 PMI do love the hot, sunny ones.
Sweating gold make up is a chore. ;D
Quote from: DM83 on June 03, 2024, 12:14:21 PMLooks like the Jets scouting staff was bringing in guys. Does nit look good.
Is this the year we loose Zach. No linebackers. Yikes.
Overstated on the negative, imo. Scouting has been rock solid for years. Perhaps watch at least half the season before you write off the talent brought in. Can't compare the Bombers to the Jets as we have been dominant for years. Linebackers will be fine assuming Wilson is not hurt and Biggie comes back. Zach has proven to be injury free for years. Yikes on the negativity.
I have bad feelings about this game. Maybe it's just me and season opener jitters> ???
Quote from: CrazyCanuck89 on June 04, 2024, 04:21:00 PMWho cares if it's unheard of? If the Bomber's are winning and the Canucks on Defense are playing well, who cares?
Hey, if our D starts 4 or 5 NATs and they are lights out on Cody's pass, MTL run, and Cody scramble all night, then I will be the first to be on this board singing their praises, and all-in on the 9 NAT concept.
Quote from: Jesse on June 04, 2024, 05:42:45 PMI do love the hot, sunny ones.
Nothing like an evening start in the heat, sun going down 1.5 hours later, and it's still short/tee weather with not a hint of sweaters by 0:00. Reminds me Hawaii at night.
I do feel for Goldie though...
Quote from: bluebeard on June 04, 2024, 11:08:12 PMI have bad feelings about this game. Maybe it's just me and season opener jitters> ???
I still have optimism. It's still The Can Mafia. And I still don't believe MTL is legit legit. I mean, it is Cody. Is he the next Zach who's going to take MTL to the GC for the next 3 years? I mean, the dude is not HoF-bound like Zach is. How many times did we beat that guy in SSK?? How many times in MTL?? We're like 20-2 against Cody.
So feel good and happy and bring da noize!! They won the GC in the stone dead quiet of HAM. Let's show them how PAS operates!
(And for the love of all that is holy find a solution to the hitch screen!!) :P
I think this will be a tough game, lots of new starters, and the first game is always one of the uglier ones. Will be interesting to see how the vets who never played or practiced this preseason perform
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 05, 2024, 07:02:25 AMHey, if our D starts 4 or 5 NATs and they are lights out on Cody's pass, MTL run, and Cody scramble all night, then I will be the first to be on this board singing their praises, and all-in on the 9 NAT concept.
That's good. So then people should stop complaining,before the season even starts?
I will go out on a limb and predict we will have 0 fake nat snaps this year, and a bonus draft pick.
Last year it was Kyle Samson that we got with our "free pick". Any idea where he is? We signed him, transactions shows him added to AR May 3, but nothing since, doesn't show on any of the lists. Going back to school?
Quote from: theaardvark on June 05, 2024, 08:05:04 PMI will go out on a limb and predict we will have 0 fake nat snaps this year, and a bonus draft pick.
Last year it was Kyle Samson that we got with our "free pick". Any idea where he is? We signed him, transactions shows him added to AR May 3, but nothing since, doesn't show on any of the lists. Going back to school?
He's on the 1-game IR.
Quote from: pdirks67 on June 05, 2024, 08:09:40 PMHe's on the 1-game IR.
Jeesh... how'd I miss that?
Team with strong Nat's get free Nat pick... if anything comes of it, bonus.
Montreal no longer has receiver Mack who was a difference maker in the Grey Cup. In fact most of their receivers on the latest depth chart don't ring too many bells outside Philpot.
Quote from: ichabod_crane on June 06, 2024, 05:18:42 AMMontreal no longer has receiver Mack who was a difference maker in the Grey Cup. In fact most of their receivers on the latest depth chart don't ring too many bells outside Philpot.
Both Snead and Spieker made some critical catches on that last drive or two. Snead had one super critical one IIRC. Spieker a couple. Both of them are starting caliber and may be around a while.
Only Rambo is the big unknown, but so is our #80 Wilson...
Quote from: The Zipp on June 03, 2024, 06:32:20 PMFrom DT:
Collaros just threw the most ridiculous pass...scrambling, fit it into a ridiculously tiny window with a defender in tight coverage.
I'm still laughing in disbelief at how great that throw was.
From Bauming:
Zach Collaros just made one of the most impressive throws I have ever seen in-person. Impossibly small window to hit Johnny Augustine on and out-and-up down the sideline while draped in coverage. Incredible. #Bombers
Sure glad he has great throws in practice.
to soon??
Quote from: BomberFan73 on June 03, 2024, 03:40:14 PMI agree with most of what you said, except the bolded.
In no way is this a "must win". The team has shown that it is willing to go into the first few weeks feeling things out and treating it almost like an extended training camp for those hopefulls still on the roster/PR.
Personally I'm not too high on this team right now, too much uncertainty. But it's not how you start a season that is important.
Very strongly agree with the bolded. I want to see this team peaking at the right time and as long as we make the playoffs that's what matters. Just like 2019 when we had to beat Calgary, Sask, and Hammy and just like Montreal last year beating Hammy, Toronto, and ultimately, us. It's all about playing your best at the right time of year. I learned that in 2011 when the BC Lions started 0-5 and went on to win the Grey Cup.
This is the cold slap in the face the Bombers needed. They've been reading too much about how they've been to 4 straight Grey Cups etc and clearly came unprepared to last nights grey cup rematch and they were clearly clearly outplayed. Time to get to work boys!!